Don't Ruin Your Boots! - The Correct Way to Clean Rugged & Resilient Thursday Boot Styles

[@MJnNB]

My compliments to both of you for showing us this brand of craftsmanship. It's nice to see these shoes being restored and put back into service. I have a better appreciation for buying quality that will last and able to be restored rather than always buying disposable junk that ends up in the trash. You're making a difference. Thank you for the videos.

[@TheRealChetManley]

Thursday needs to give you guys a discount code. Y'all are selling a lot of boots. I've got a closet full of nice shoes and boots, but I do not have anything from Thursday yet. That will be changing soon because of this channel.

[@travr6]

I have 2 pair of Thursday boots because of this channel and i never wear them. I'm a cowboy boot guy though. I wanted a dressier boot but they just don't work for me.

[@nodieusa]

I just got my first pair in this leather a couple of weeks ago. Thank you!!!

[@morganadams9026]

You two are the reason I have become a huge leather nerd.

[@TrentonHeath]

Haha...thanks! Glad you’re enjoying.

[@klinsmann5928]

Them, and rose anvil... 😂😅

[@andygt733]

@@TrentonHeath hey Trento band Heath sorry for hijacking the comment but I was wondering if you had any tips for keeping my Hayabusa t3’s powder finish look?

[@dubester1982]

Sameeeeee. Big time!

[@davidshellberg]

Great timing. I just bought a pair of these last week. I searched everywhere for proper care for them but found nothing. Thank you.

[@TrentonHeath]

Hope this helped.

[@07triman]

The thing that is frustrating is that even under the care section on the Thursday Website they don't really tell how to care for the Tobacco. The just need to link to this video.

[@knud_mtg2390]

Same just purchased the same boot shown here. Great to see some care advices

[@Feemy]

Do you need to waterproof them with the spray when they are brand new out of the box? I just got a pair and am hesitant to use the waterproofing spray as it may react with all the oils that are present in the R&R line of Captains.

[@pattgsm]

@@Feemy- I just got a pair and my advice is to condition and weather proof your new boots. Reason for immediate conditioning: Even though they are new and unworn, you never know how long they’ve been sitting in inventory since they were built. Reason for immediate weather proofing and/or liquid proofing. It my not be snowing or raining but you may be cooking, or having drinks and oil, food, or drink will eventually find your leather shoes. Proper conditioning weatherproofing, spill protection products for specific leathers will not change the pigment. Using the wrong products will change the appearance but not the functionality or wearability. You get more bang for your $ sticking to neutral (non-pigmented) conditioners if you have various shades of brown plus black leathers.

[@vmipiper]

You guys and Preston Soto have made me a shoe geek. Now that I'm wearing suits with dress shoes and boots again, it's been fun relearning the tips and tricks from you all! Thanks for what you do!

[@fullmetalroyal1216]

Thank you for this, everytime I would ask Thursday boots they would tell me "just wipe it with a damp rag" and im like MA'M THERE ARE SOME THINGS DAMP RAGS CAN'T DO lol

[@Thursdayboots]

We didn't have specific shoe care products to apply for some of our Rugged Collection when we first released the style. A lot of oils and tended to darken the leather. But we now have a great cleaner that works perfectly with our Rugged leathers. To clean these leathers, you can spray the Leather Cleaner( available on our website) and use a clean Microfiber Cloth to wipe them down, as well as a Premium Shoe Brush to remove any dirt on the surface.--- In addition to everything Trenton & Heath Recommend :)

[@jorgefigueroa2231]

@@Thursdayboots Hi, your boots are awesome! :) I own black Matte and I literally just ordered Arizona Adobe 10 minutes ago! I'm excited to own two beautiful boots in both colors!

[@fuzzyjem3]

@@jorgefigueroa2231 literally bought the same 2 in the same order lol

[@cdemosshouston]

My Dad recently passed away and we have a really nice set of 1) Justin leather brown cowboy boots size 12D and 2) Boot & Shoe Workers Union tan work boots size 10 1/2 E. Could I send them to you to find a home, or should I just donate them to a local charity? Congrats on 200K subs! Love your work and your channel.

[@natgasf4097]

I have the same boots. Thanks for the tutorial.

[@i2harry]

Suggestion for future video: would you mind only work on one of the boots so that we can see the differences side by side?

[@TrentonHeath]

The question that seems to be popping up consistently down below is “wouldn’t mink oil do just as good of a job on these boots?”. This sounds like a GREAT video idea; however, I’ll answer it again. These particular boots are like a rough out/suede leather. Unless you completely want to change the LOOK and TEXTURE of these boots, you would NOT want to use mink oil. Mink oil has its time and place for SOME leathers, but it will definitely darken most any leather it’s applied to. It’s often a good conditioner for work boots that are taking a beating each day, but it’s not always the best go-to for all boots. Thursday Boots are NOT work boots. They are a well constructed style boot. For many rugged, work boots, yes, mink oil can be a good option. I hope that answers it. Yep...good video idea! 🤔

[@Kingfisher1215]

I actually like Obenauffs vs mink oil but it would be the same result on these boots. I end up using shoe cream if I don't want to change color or darken. Actually I hate to admit but I use Kiwi shoe cream. But it might change the texture. I never buy a rough out or suede leather on my boots.

[@Cemmos]

@UCkCPIwxskJpk-qGx6DO_i7g Saphir is just about the highest end you can go for shoe care products. There's a reason a lot of cobblers and leatherworkers in general use it as a go-to when working with leather, whether to reinvigorate the leather or as a finish before selling a new product. Junk isn't the right word to use. If anything, mink oil is junk 90% of the time unless you're buying a cheaper pair of $100 work boots that you aren't looking to keep for a decade or two and just toss after a couple of seasons. Mink oil does the trick for throwaway boots that don't need much attention and works well in that regard. It's cheap, helps with water resistance, and conditions enough so that the leather doesn't dry out. Going for mink oil is common because of those reasons, not because it's a top of the line product for every scenario. EDIT: the comment must have been deleted.

[@TrentonHeath]

@@Cemmos The previous comment from the other user was getting a bit out of hand and uncalled for. We had to delete it. Thank you for your input. I completely agree with you! 👍

[@Cemmos]

@@TrentonHeath understandable! It was pretty aggressive for no reason.

[@cww922]

Just bought my first pair of Thursday Captain rough leather boots. They are still a bit stiff (on my second week). This video answers my questions about how to care for these boots. First, I’ve got to get broke in and dirty, wish me luck!

[@hu-ry]

the rough leather ones take a lot longer to break in ^-^ took me painfully almost a month but after that they fit you like a glove :D

[@beatermatrix5923]

Thanks for sharing this info guys, you're doing wonderful job! I'll get a pair of Arizona Adobe Captains myself soon so it's great to know how to take care of them. I was also wondering if I can use this Suede/nubuck shampoo and spray conditioner for my smooth leather or I need something else?

[@doublen675]

Thank you! I have a pair of the rugged and resilient boots coming on Thursday... from Thursday... (That just occurred to me) and I wasn't certain how different this leather would be. You probably just saved my boots!

[@TrentonHeath]

Awesome!

[@Thursdayboots]

Looking forward to having you a part of the Team!

[@pitis2flie]

I’ll add to this that I recently inadvertently changed the color and texture of my copper rough and tough red wing blacksmiths because I used a boot cream that was for smooth leathers. I wrongly assumed that if it was gentle enough for smooth finish leathers, my rough and tough boots could handle it no problem. The new color and texture are not horrible, but it’s just not the same boot that I picked out to purchase.

[@hometownkid]

I ended up doing the same. I didn't watch or read the rugged resilient care video. I used a brown crème On my Arizona adobe and now they're darker. I don't hate it but it's not what i originally had.... I just wish the box would have had instructions. My cobbler didn't know and just pointed me to the black rock conditioner.😢😢

[@samvendola8852]

what was the shoe cream you used on the sole and heel block? I have the exact same boots and the same messed up soles lol

[@CJPXRAY]

Love your videos!

[@lilfunky1]

bah you beat me to first comment by 23 seconds!!

[@JuanRodriguez-rh4kp]

How do I get the dry look? My boots don't have the dry look like when I first got them.

[@orcaartist]

There’s something so satisfying about watching leather and suede shoes being cleaned and polished. 🧼

[@ahmadfairuss1406]

As always,your videos are really insightful and a pleasure to watch.

[@brianbarnett100]

already added renovateur and it made them unique in my opinion, oh well at least I like it hahaha

[@Pudekz51790]

This video came late for me. I use oil base sapphire renovateur on mine. My burnt copper is now darker and shinier. Is there a way to undo it? I don’t mind how it turned out now but in case there might be a way?

[@NotCleverlyNamed]

I would actually be interested to see a video of what happens when you use the wrong color conditioner

[@sapclan2896]

Great information thanks

[@McGooness]

I'm new to boots & leathers. I'm looking at getting the Terracotta from the captain boots line and saw the care was special in their "how to clean description" same as the rugged and resilient. Does that boot also apply in this video? If someone could let me know or give ideas where to look to find out I'd appreciate it. Thanks.

[@SilverSergeant]

Based on your previous videos, I bought a pair of Thursday Rugged & Resilient Captains a few months ago...I really like them....Thanks for the education you provide!!!

[@TrentonHeath]

You’re quite welcome!

[@Gastoncious]

Just in time! I'm waiting for my pair of Terracotta Captains to arrive. It was not easy for me to find this information that you give in this video so thank you very much! :) Is it a good idea to give my new boots a Saphir Invulner treatment before I start wearing them? Or is it better to do it once I've already used them for a while? Greetings from Spain!

[@shavedwolf87]

I used some Bick 4 conditioner on my pair, I watched this video a few times before hand. I honestly like the way they look now, it did slightly darken them and I am happy with it. I would recommend not using conditioner unless you want them darker.

[@asterisk606]

It's less about the color and more about the texture.

[@MiguelTorres-hg1kn]

Thank you for the information. You both do a great job teaching us.

[@duconce]

Great video, what would you recommend for Truman Shrunken Bison boots to keep the same color? Thanks

[@awormasi]

For those of us who have accidentally darkened our boots with oils, what do you recommend to bring back the original color? Will the suede shampoo remove some of oils and restore the original look?

[@majidnolley6582]

I’d love to know if anyone has a solution.

[@Player-125]

I had this issue with a pair of Red Wing Blacksmiths in copper rough & tough that I applied boot oil to. To get the boot oil out I used a small Kiwi horsehair brush and a bowl of warm water with a small amount of dish soap dissolved in it. I cleaned each boot 2-3 times, gently rinsing them under warm running water in between washes, wiping them down with a microfiber towel after to get the excess water off. Then I stuffed them with paper and let them dry overnight by an open window. In hindsight it may have only taken one treatment with the dish soap to get the oil out. The dish soap removed the oil, but it also took out the patina and the "pull up" effect from the leather. To restore the depth and patina for this particular Red Wing leather, I used a light treatment of their All Natural Leather Conditioner to put some depth and conditioning back into the leather. Hope that helps!

[@vistahausproperties]

Great video! Coincidence that I was looking to treat these very boots! However, I was on an international trip and I made the mistake to have a shoe shiner clean and polish my boots:/ they added wax and now they are shiny same as the dress captains. What do you recommend to return back to suede rugged looking? You mentioned theoughout the video of avoiding color and texture change. I hope I can get them back to rugged suede. Thank you for your recommendation.

[@Thad1us23]

I wish I had seen this video before I took my boots to my local cobbler. My boots are now dark they don't have the same feel to the touch, am I 100% screwed lol?

[@thegreenman5899]

How do you remove the excess brown shoe polish from the black rubber parts after applying it to the leather edge and heel?

[@smiley-qb3nt]

I noticed on my Thursday captains it doesn't seem like there's a counter heel

[@anthonygardner400]

Hi Trent. Must be nice to work on a pair of your own boots for a change and enjoy the fruits of your labor! Enjoy your weekend!

[@TrentonHeath]

Hi Anthony! Yeah, these definitely needed a good cleaning. It’s about time. Have a great weekend as well!

[@chandlerwhite3427]

I just wanted to comment that I did this process on my Arizona Adobes that were stained. I use the exact same products as this video. It worked and they look closer to new now, but I think that suede shampoo really dried out the toe cap and removed some of the original oils. I used both the conditioner and water resist spray afterwards. I’ll have to see how it goes moving forward. I think in retrospect, the best thing to do is just wipe down with water if there’s a bad stain and be vigilant about brushing with the horsehair brush. I’ll try to avoid using the shampoo again if I can.

[@braisRA]

Is this leather similar to the Iron Ranger 8085 Copper Rough & Tough? Because in many videos people recommended using Saphir oiled leather cream on this model (IR). Even several shoemakers in my city have told me the same. Red Wing itself recommends using its oil from time to time on this type of leather...

[@danielfournier4659]

So what if you already used regular conditioner? Is there a way to get the original luster back?

[@SpaceSnaxxx]

This is FAR BETTER than the explanation I received from Thursday's customer service regarding the same question. Thank you so much - once again, you leave me with knowledge I didn't think I'd learn today!

[@shaynelaw9629]

Thank you guys. Crazy coincidence. Slipped on my Thursday Rugged & Resilient Burnt Copper boots, came downstairs, grabbed my phone and this video popped up for me. You guys are the best. Keep them coming. I may ask Santa to get me some care products from you guys. Have purchased from you before. Happy Holidays!

[@TrentonHeath]

Great timing! Glad it helped. Have a wonderful holiday season as well!

[@WilliamBookerDC]

I also found this video a month too late - used the Cobbler's Choice liquid conditioner on my Vanguards in Burnt Copper and completely changed the texture. Color thankfully didn't change, but now they are a weird texture that takes and holds scuffs like crazy...is there any way to undo the damage and get back to the original texture? Will a vigorous cleaning with saddle soap pull enough of that conditioner back out that it goes back to the original 'rugged' texture?

[@altizzy]

Saphir Renomat is supposed to remove oils and polish cream down to the original finish. I would look in that direction.

[@Rokaize]

Just so you all know: if you put something like sno seal, or some other wax, on these types of boots it won’t ruin them. It will certainly change the texture and look, just like he said. Theyl take on a shiny look. The suede will disappear. And Itl be somewhat waxy to the touch.

[@DolphinsEatFish]

would it make them darker? i like the color but these are pretty easy to scratch, would it help protect it from scratches?

[@Rokaize]

@@DolphinsEatFish Yeah Itl darken them a lot. Not much you can do about that. And yeah scratches should be helped too since it’s making the leather more moist and is pointing a layer of wax over the leather.

[@jamesn7156]

I just got these Arizona Adobe boots and they are much darker than this out of the box. They seemed to be over conditioned. With they lighten up if I just wear them and let them dry out a bit?

[@haraldhoffmann6752]

I've already done what you recomended not to do - creme on nubuk shoes - in the end of 2018, before I could watch your chanel. any idea how to get it off. I leave a picture of them in my istagram. thank you and best regards. harald

[@MadelnMachines]

Is it the same advice for red wing copper rough and tough?

[@insanodeathguy2160]

Is it okay to not conditioning after using suede shampoo?

[@TrentonHeath]

Yes

[@oscarlizaola]

Would you suggest the same for any red wing rough and tough boot?

[@salehmiro4848]

I used pink miracle to clean my Terracotta boot but it ended up causing scrubs and color fading is this fixable at all?

[@paulocesarmendes7809]

Very good 👍🏼

[@marvinthemartian696]

Hi. This can be applied to the stormking captain boots?

[@georgecarlin2879]

Hi guys, I'm assuming my Thursday Loggers in Waxed Cacao is in the same category? They just arrived yesterday, I put them thru 3 hrs of icy snow n slush, feet stayed dry, no painful break in hotspots, luv 'em! But I got anxious after taking them off and put a light coat of Saphir Renovateur on them, waited until this morning and brushed them, still same color and the light waxy shine is back, but I'll stay away from conditioners knowing this now.

[@ianhanley2372]

Hey Trenton & Heath! I got a pair of Thursdays diplomats in burnt copper about a month ago, I've never owned a pair of leather boots, always wore tennis shoes to work so I have NO experience taking care of them lol. So like an idiot I thought I could just use a cream conditioner on them and bought some Saphir Renovateur and have been using that when I condition them. My question is did I ruin my boots or is there a way to remove the conditioner and pretty much start from scratch. I did order the suede shampoo and conditioning spray as soon as I saw this video lol.

[@alaric1170]

Incredibly helpful, thanks. I emailed Thursday Boots asking what products they recommend for maintaining my President Tobacco boots. They recommended not using any conditioner or waterproofing agent - however it's hard to turn down your advice when the results look so good. Do you think the dark brown suede waterproofing spray by Saphir will match Tobacco leather?

[@b00nDAg00n]

Nice reply and advice everyone, thanks. 🙄

[@powderriverfarrier]

Darn good warning from the Man With the Knowledge on the correct way to handle that type of leather.

[@TrentonHeath]

Thank you sir! 👍

[@QnzMike02]

Will mink oil spray work the same as a conditioner for this type of leather? Thanks!

[@frankrizzo7185]

Good question I use it successfully on suede.

[@theoortcloud742]

Is this a different type of leather texture than the Iron Rangers?

[@miguelmolano6611]

Don't they sell the cleaning kit and brush too?

[@je6374]

Is the neutral color conditioner also a good option? And does this also apply to the Safari Captains?

[@awkwardthecat7065]

So if i wanted to make my rugged and resilient boots shiny, would I use the liquid polish then? Will it just change the look or ruin the leather?

[@rangerdad3495]

I have a pair of the black matte captains and just recently put a scuff onto the sole by the toe . What would be the best way to rapair that or at least hide it , thanks in advance

[@ianharris3502]

So to condition new boots from the rugged and resilient line, do we just apply water proofer?

[@thewizardhowl]

My biggest enemy is my bike's shifter. My left pair consistently gets scuffed and my ocd can't get over it.

[@drzaius844]

Iron Rangers. The shifter area should last you much longer than anything you've worn before.

[@claytonmarkin7863]

I was going to tell you to get basket pedals, buts it's clear we ride very different bikes.

[@ttop64]

Have you tried using a rubber boot that goes over the shifter to help protect your shoes? I've seen videos on how they install them over the shifter.

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[@darthbennigan]

If you can afford it look into getting a carbon drive for your bike - I LOVE the lack of oil stains and ripped jeans that plagued me for years.

[@zoeypetaer1791]

SAPHIR MEDAILLE D'OR POMMADIER CREAM POLISH would it work + what color u lik brocken

[@-----REDACTED-----]

So if we don’t care (too much) for maintaining the colour and texture normal conditioners are okay if applied sparingly? As in they are unlikely to damage the leather?

[@gregcoad9153]

Very contradictory info. Don’t use any thing, but use this. Huh? My Rugged & Resilient Whiskey Captains are not suede or nubuck type texture at all. They’re a shiny leather. Same treatment for those??

[@SC-do8mo]

What are your thoughts about the new "stormking" outsoles on these boots? I just received them unexpectingly (my fault). They do indeed seem durable, but is it not cost effective and less durable on the long run VS previous soles' from Thursdays?

[@zenossimone2535]

Can it eraser mold/mildew/bruises ????

[@nothertreeinbox]

I have the same pair, why are mine darker ? It's like the longer I wear them they get a waxy shine to them. When I use just some light cleaner (the kind thursday recommended for them) it brings them back to dull and then the process starts with them getting a shine again.

[@Handsomeshrek]

Man, shouldve watch this awhile ago. I just went ahead with saddle soap and conditioner. My burnt copper is now arizona adobe lol still looks good tho

[@obliqueorder]

So, I'm asking for a 'friend' who may have treated his copper rough n tough Red Wing boots like his calfskin leather shoes with liquid saphir and polish.... is there a way to restore the original texture?

[@davidwang2619]

After watched this video couple months ago, I currently owned two pairs of Thursday boots. Arizona adobe and Matt black captains. Why your boots looks so much lighter than mine? Is that because of your using the lighter brown conditioner spray?

[@jonathonfloering1752]

I just bought the Thursday Captains in Arizona Adobe. They look much darker than the picture on the website. Will these boots lighten in color as they're worn?

[@btnonsense7713]

I was a little disappointed in the leather when it got mine - Smelled really bad and they got the hell beat out of them after only a couple of hours. I gave it Venetian cream today and they look way, way better. Gonna add snow seal next. I rarely wear them anyway. (My wife doesn't like them LOL. I bought them for a trip expecting bad weather.) Honestly I think it's crap leather and these shoe guys are well compensated.

[@sergeybebenin]

Am I right to assume it's the same for Captain Terracotta? Thanks 👍

[@TrentonHeath]

Yep, correct.

[@kitcraft9516]

So, could you condition this if you WANTED to change the texture of the leather to smooth? As for why you would do that, some boots are only offered in wide in the R&R leather.

[@xxflamezxx1able]

I recently got a pair of beautiful vegetable tanned diesel boots in tan from grant stone. Sadly, I went to open my fridge and the corner of the fridge door cut the toe of the boot and left a deep cut, is there anything that can be done ? I literally wore them once and this happened and my heart broke.

[@williamruiz9186]

Shiiiiiiiiiiit, this video was recommended to me too late... i have the burnt copper color rugged and resistant, and i used BRICK 4 leather conditioners. They were my first pair, and they looked dry, is there anything i can do?

[@DomTufino]

Great video! I was just wondering if the Leather Cleanser from Thursday would be good for these type of boots?

[@iamconklin]

Great video! Would these procedures be similar for Red Wing Rough and Tough leathers?

[@MorieldeCaelum]

New to the rugged and resilient line. Can I use saddle soap instead of the suede shampoo?

[@georgecarlin2879]

No, saddle soap is not for suede or nubuck from what Ive read.

[@TrentonHeath]

No, I wouldn’t recommend it. I’d recommend using a suede soap instead, like I used in the video.

[@Thursdayboots]

We developed a great cleaner last year that works perfectly with our Rugged leathers. To clean these leathers, you can spray the Leather Cleaner( available on our website) and use a clean Microfiber Cloth to wipe them down, as well as a Premium Shoe Brush to remove any dirt on the surface.--- Trenton & Heath also have shared some great recommendations in this video :)

[@forrestihler504]

I don’t know why my Arizona Adobes are way darker than this. They came out of the box darker. I’ve worn them for 2 years and haven’t added any conditioner and they are still dark, how could this be?

[@Pit8504]

So, I’ve had a pair of Terracotta Captains for about 5 years. I’m just now learning that I should not have put leather conditioner on it. Should I start treating it as suede or has too much damage been done?

[@aaronwong1977]

I'm curious. You mentioned that your boots are Arizona Adobe, but they look so much more yellow than the pictures on Thursday's site that show the Arizona Adobe as a much more reddish shade. Yours look more like the burnt copper to me. Am I mistaken?

[@zbw8785]

I have a suede matte black leather racer jacket from Thursday Boots. What should I use to condition the jacket ? Thank you

[@QuarterZipBro]

how would you clean apache leather, like the leather of my Chippewa boots?

[@rohm005]

I applied liquid conditioner to a ruuged leather boot and it changed color an texture, how can i return it to original texture and color? Ples help

[@21ferebee]

Can I Use the Neutral spray instead of medium. Will that look good as well. Because i have a pair of Duke Honey that i want to condition as well and do not want to buy 2 of them.

[@michaelmorris1839]

I have the Thursday Captains matte grey leather boots is there anything special you would do for those? I just bought them and I'm pretty anxious about doing anything to them because I don't want to ruin them

[@ronnoctiat]

The front of my rugged and resilient Thursday boots has gone quite dry when compared to the less weathered sides of the boots. Is there a way to restore this without changing the leather too much? Thanks for videos, great content.

[@danailvasilev8565]

Hi - thank you for the video. I used bees wax on mine and it darkened the leather. Can I expect the boots to become brighter as time goes on?

[@VJTrey1]

What color of conditioner for tobacco color rugged and resilient Thursday boots?

[@zacharylowery4866]

Would you consider their Rough and Rugged Whiskey color to be medium or dark brown?

[@TheFrontyer]

I just used some mink oil. Worked just fine, though leather darkened

[@markmcneil5702]

Thursday boots are great. Their customer service is terrible. They just tell me to simply wipe them off

[@JordanMeyer]

Dumb question … but only because I’m color blind lol. I looked up the sapphire shoe cream for the edges. I noticed they are sorta cracking and drying a bit. There’s a bunch of colors of this shoe cream. I have Arizona Adobe. Are the edges black , or brown? They seem black, but my color blindness tricks me at times. Great video , I learned a lot !

[@TrentonHeath]

No worries at all. They are dark brown.

[@Ed77x77]

Would you also clean the tobacco style Thursday boots like this ? With the same products?

[@kenbartlett8355]

has anyone put liquid conditioner on their rugged boots? if so, were you ever able to get them back to the way they were?

[@jerrieyum]

Have you guys ever gotten any crazy horse leather? Is there a special way to take care of that?

[@Phamine]

Damn - what could I do if I already used leather conditioners on my boot.