Don't stretch the meaning of 'genocide' | Natasha Hausdorff | Battle of Ideas 2024

[@syweiner434]

"Woe unto those who call light darkness and darkness light" - Isaiah

[@sadiqpatel6832]

Well said about the israelis

[@drplot1]

great and appropriate quote

[@NorDixonSkiSchool]

Or men women and women men

[@lamegalectora]

The ICJ and the ICC have made a total mockery of themselves (as has the UN)

[@AbrahamAllianceInstitute]

International law is an objective concept. Any bias in applying any international law to Israel will come back to hurt international institutions.

[@georgeh8937]

oh abraham. did you even think before speaking like a know it all? making good laws is hard. you don't want to demand too much from any country signing a new law. or make a law overly broad. otherwise why would any nation will give up any power unless there is some greater benefit they get in return? similar comment for international judges. you can't play king of the world and expect compliance. just look at how hamas is ignoring international court orders to return hostages. are you going to demand hamas obey international authority?

[@AbrahamAllianceInstitute]

@ This post is not about the nature of international law. It is about the application of international law and conventions. No international institution can apply any law with inherent bias for or against one group. That defeats the essence of international law and its evolutionary process.

[@sjoerd1239]

The USA, and Israel, are doing a good job of destroying the rules-based order, and their standings in the international community, without considering what the ICC might determine.

[@offroadoffshore153]

@@AbrahamAllianceInstitute How is it then that all those that condemn the institutions NEVER address the actual allegations and evidence presented? The answer is pretty simple. They CAN'T because the evidence is indefensible and is happening in plain view. This is despite preventing independent assessment starting with journalists.

[@offroadoffshore153]

@@georgeh8937 What court has instructed Hamas to return hostages or anything for that matter? Answer none. Palestinians signed up to the Rome Statute/ICC jurisdiction over international humanitarian law in 2015. When did Israel sign up? Answer it hasn't. You are very good at making stuff up.

[@j-manmarkus7591]

Iarael defending itself against radical islamic terror is NOT a war crime, but what hamas did on October 7 IS a war crime! If "international law"condemns Israel but ignores hamas, then they have no moral compass and are therefore are irreleevant and without any credibility whatsoever.

[@jiminverness]

Outstanding, Natasha.

[@sofiaGUT]

Very important remark : accusing the victims (israeli victims of 7oct genocide) of the crime that was committed on them. Exactly. That is the cycle of violance - violence of the propalestiniams attackers. They want to tarnish and accuse the victim of the crime that was done by the criminal. The hamas

[@SuspectUsual]

*"Human shields dying in a war you started is called Collateral Damage, not Genocide!"*

[@gavinkalaher7314]

An entire population cannot become "human shields" because it deliberately ignores the principles of proportionality and distinction - a fundamental component of international humanitarian law. There is also sufficient and credible evidence that civilians have been deliberately targeted, as detailed in the ICC's arrest warrant judgment. They were, therefore, not human shields. I hope that helps 🙏

[@SuspectUsual]

@gavinkalaher7314 ICC has become a Kangaroo court. No need to take it seriously! The entire population of Gaza HAS become Human Shields. There is no regard for any law, national or international, in Gaza. They don't play by the rules of international law. There are videos from October 7th 2023 when hostages were being brought in, where civilians including women and children are seen cheering the terrorists and celebrating the attack. Even now, the hostages are being held amongst civilians, who are clearly colluding and collaborating with the terrorists.

[@matthewknight6250]

@@gavinkalaher7314 There is no credible evidence that civilians were being targeted, this is yet another casual libel leveled against Israel.

[@Glenrok]

⁠@@gavinkalaher7314 “deliberately targeted” knowing they were civilians- or with the belief/reasonable suspicion that they were combatants POSING as civilians?? Explain your understanding of “proportionality and distinction”, so we know we’re on the same page……

[@georgeh8937]

@@gavinkalaher7314 oh gavin you are mixed up. read the geneva conventions. human shield accusation comes from gazans launching attacks from schools and hospitals and other protected places so they can blame israel for return fire. geneva conventions are about trying to reduce civilian harm. does hamas ever worry about reducing harm to israel civilians and warn of their attacks like israel does? no. so quit talking nonsense to protect jihadists.

[@sofiaGUT]

Thank you Natasha, it's very clear and important what you are saying. 7 october was a genocide of Palestinians against israelis. Gaza war is not a genocide. It is a war of a sovereign country to bring back the hostages.

[@SuspectUsual]

*"Unprovoked killing of civilians is called Terrorism, not Resistance!"*

[@EL_Bi_]

Totally agree! Israel is indeed a terrorist state!

[@damirsabanovic7025]

you are right - and from a moral or historic point of view, it would be inappropriate and unjustified to ignore the role of Balfour, Herzl and all the ancestors of today's Israel or Mossad... and especially the British who have always had a sense for justice, democracy and forced migration of the domicile population (wherever they established a colonial administration)!

[@Sarah-im3lp]

LOL! And who killed 50,000 civilians!!?

[@georgeh8937]

@@Sarah-im3lp silly sarah. why are you laughing? is there any moral argument that allows a gazan to kidnap torture or kill an israeli to protest against israel's govt?

[@SuspectUsual]

@@Sarah-im3lp Hamas is responsible for the death of Palestinian civilians! Why were Palestinian civilians cheering and celebrating on October 7th? Why do Palestinian civilians let Hamas use them as Human shields? Why don't we see protests by civilians against Hamas terrorists? Because there is no difference between Hamas terrorists and Palestinian civilians in terms of ideology, objectives, genocidal intent, hatred of Jews, etc.. Just that the Hamas terrorists take up arms.

[@elkiebeerepoot5829]

Thank you Natasha Hausdorff. I'm so glad these important points are well explained. Also that the reversal is well highlighted by the Islamic judge. Until a few years ago, I had the highest confidence and respect for this Court. That's gone. Moreover, many statements are not properly implemented. People will be happy to make an exception for Israel. Some important parts of adjournments have also been peacefully abused for years, leading to legal inequality and friction in society. Those treaties need to be corrected. South Africa is wrong. But worse. These judges are biased. My confidence is gone.

[@EL_Bi_]

This is the same lawyer stating that IDF does not kill children right?

[@flolan2]

I strongly disagree. Please see my extensive debunk of Natasha's speech.

[@deaddudegaming]

Sorry but she wrong. Not surprised because she a mouth piece for Israe. The evidence for Genocide is overwhelming.. you have to be either really dumb or be complete devoid of ant kind of morality to say there no genocide.

[@Kurtlane]

If the current war in Gaza is gen..ide, can one name any war in human history that would not be a gen..ide? If not, then what is the use of the word "gen..ide" when we can just call it "war?"

[@John-c3u9o]

It is a genocide, and not just a war, because it is the intentional destruction of the Palestinian people as a nation living in Gaza. The "conditions of life" have been destroyed, i.e. 70 percent of homes, the whole health care system, bakeries, farmland, water treatment plants, plus the blockade of food and medicine. Plus all the markers of cultural and national identity - all museums, libraries, cultural sites, Mosques and universities. 42 thousand have been killed, but that's just part of the picture. 200 thousand have left to Egypt. Another 200 thousand will die of indirect death according to most estimates. Tens of thousands have been serious wounded and disabled. Probably 10 to 20 thousand are buried under the rubble. That equals a reduction of the population by half a million. Bezalel Smotrich yestereday told a conference of Israeli settler groups that "It is possible to create a situation where Gaza's population in two years will be less than half its current size." Clearly Israelis expect accelerated emigration in addition to the half million reduction already brought about. The intention is clear and was stated publicly - make Gaza unlivable and uninhabitable. And they have done that.

[@HabaneroTi]

Apparently the allies committed genocide in WWII. Nazis are relieved.

[@hcmd886]

That the antisemites’ century old method - call everything the Jews do to protect themselves evel or illegal.

[@suereed3474]

@@Kurtlane Well, Jews were citizens of Germany not at war with Germany when the Nazis tried to kill them all. They had served in the army and were law abiding citizens. The Final Solution was aimed at them, just for being Jewish. I think that is the difference.

[@offroadoffshore153]

Plenty of conflicts and where g*nocide was NOT the "intent", intent AS expressed by Israel's leadership on the public and private record 😢which is the case here. That evidence tabled with the ICJ.

[@SuspectUsual]

*"Accusing Israel of committing genocide is like accusing a rape victim of committing rape!"*

[@13tuyuti]

Sometimes rape victims do commit rape.

[@SuspectUsual]

@13tuyuti No, this is for the same crime i.e. the genocide perpetrated by Hamas on October 7th 2023!

[@stevenhansen5453]

@@13tuyuti Just so you are aware. No means no!

[@13tuyuti]

@SuspectUsual no. The crimes of Hamas on october 7th and those of Israel after october 7th are two separate crimes.

[@sadiqpatel6832]

I think your name suspect as usual completely nullifies & trashed your argument. Genocide denier.

[@AdelinaMuller]

As usual, Natasha Hausdorff telling it as it is, and the terrorist supporters spout nonsense, as usual. Well done, Natasha, for calling a spade a spade.

[@onepartyroule]

Your imagination is running riot again dear. If you're getting overwhelmed again by the prospect of some complexity take a break.

[@gssrustenburg]

They have been brainwashed by far left woke media.

[@thepiratebaker1662]

​@@onepartyrouletalking to yourself is the first sign of senility

[@Sarah-im3lp]

You mean freedom fighters!

[@thepiratebaker1662]

@Sarah-im3lp no, definitely terrorists, I Googled it

[@SuspectUsual]

*"Losing a war you started is called Defeat, not Genocide!"*

[@gavinkalaher7314]

@SuspectUsual that's a common misconception and/or propaganda myth. It deliberately ignores the key identifier that distinguishes a war from a genocide; intent. If a belligerent military and/or government expresses genocidal intent and then commits unlawful acts as defined in the Rome Statute and Genocide Convention, a court may determine it to be a genocide. I hope that helps 🙏

[@SuspectUsual]

@gavinkalaher7314 Hamas terrorists embedded themselves amongst civilians. This means there were no separate civilian areas.

[@gavinkalaher7314]

@@SuspectUsual yes, I'm fully aware of these debunked propaganda myths. Thankfully, it's not a credible defence and has no legal merit. I hope that helps 🙏

[@gavinkalaher7314]

@SuspectUsual Yes, I'm fully aware of these claims. It is unlikely to be a credible defence under IHL and doesn't remove the requirement for distinction. Unlimited civilian casualties can't be labelled as "collateral damage." I hope that helps 🙏

[@bzc90]

You sound like a monster

[@SolarShine]

Search on youtube: Military expert debunks Gaza "genocide"

[@connie.22]

Yes it's a great video, by triggernometry interview of nick freitas. Also I think their interview of ahmed.is amazing also.

[@followerofchrist3125]

@@connie.22He also explained why no other Arab Muslim counts wants to accept ‘Palestinian’ refugees. They have caused quite a bit of trouble in Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon and Kuwait not just Israel. 🙏🇮🇱

[@EL_Bi_]

@@followerofchrist3125 why on earth should they have to leave their land and be refugees in other arab countries?

[@thepiratebaker1662]

​@@EL_Bi_ What land? The land that was never the arabs'? The land that Jews have lived in uninterrupted for 3500 years? The land that hasn't been a country for 2000 years? The land they refused in 1947? The land they never claimed sovereignty over for 19 years of Jordanian and Egyptian rule? The land they specifically laid no claim to under article 24 of the plo charter? Be specific

[@connie.22]

@followerofchrist3125 I don't need to hear that, I actually know myself. Thanks tho, good to tell others that may not now.

[@kenjones8083]

The Muslims have claimed that all the characters in the Tora are muslims (presentism) based on the words of a man who lived in 700 AD. I claim that all the characters in the Quran and Bible are Jedi.

[@sadiqpatel6832]

And your character amounts to absolutely zilch---- nothing there, just empty

[@evamarsi4998]

Genocide was comitted on the 7th of oct. For the palestinians, the Court did not say that there was a genocide but the possibility of a genocide.

[@offroadoffshore153]

7 Oct were war crimes and crimes against humanity, NOT g*nocide.

[@ts8960]

Urban warfare expert, John Spencer: "Based on my 3 research trips into Gaza since October 7th, I 100% agree with the commission and stand by my findings that the IDF have implemented more measure to prevent civilian harm than any military in history"

[@offroadoffshore153]

@ts8960 A line up of experts that goes around the block have debunked Spencers findings incl that some of his basis even constitute in themselves war crimes under the umbrella of collective punishment

[@eelswamp]

7:20 Watch the video. The court did not find 'possible' of 'plausible' genocide.

[@offroadoffshore153]

@eelswamp Read the ruling not this propaganda video. The ICJ accepted Sth Africas application indicating it was "plausible" G*nocide was occuring, NOT the application fell under the Convention. There was NO objection by Israel to bring this into question. Israel has ignored the ICJ "site specific" detailed Preliminary Orders directed to ensure it stopped. Orders such as this don't exist in the absence of examining the evidence. These Orders were followed up two times and Israel ignored them.

[@lauraf2584]

The problem is that legalese is not written to be understood by regular people, even very intelligent regular people. It's written to be obtuse, so that lawyers are needed to translate it into normal English.

[@flolan2]

The problem is people's difficult relation with reality. Look: Founder of the Hebrew University Forum for Scholars of the Holocaust, Amos Goldberg: "Yes, it is genocide. It is so difficult to admit it, but despite all that, and despite all our efforts to think otherwise, after six months of brutal war we can no longer avoid this conclusion. Jewish history will henceforth be stained with the mark of Cain for the ‘most horrible of crimes,’ which cannot be erased from its forehead. As such, this is the way it will be viewed in history’s judgment for generations to come.”

[@davidgoddard5532]

We know Israel goes over and above what any other military has ever done to minimise civilian casualties to the extent it has the lowest ratio of civilians : combatants killed so; let’s ask which army or military has a achieved a lower ratio in an urban war or conflict?

[@gavinkalaher7314]

Care to add any more false statements with no factual basis? Hilarious 😂

[@alextabet9247]

Above and beyond? Does that extend to cross dressing in the lingerie of the women they murdered? Or the murder of tens of thousands of children. You should not speak when you are ignorant. Or you are aware of the atrocities that an Israel has inflicted on the Palestinian people, but you just do not think Palestinians are human beings.

[@davidgoddard5532]

@@alextabet9247 Grow up

[@gavinkalaher7314]

@@davidgoddard5532 talk about projection 🤣

[@alextabet9247]

@@davidgoddard5532 I would rather not (grow up), if it means cross dressing and murdering babies.

[@AbrahamAllianceInstitute]

Approximately 1% of Gazans are armed (usually males aged 17 to 24). Israel is openly targeting them for protecting Hamas’ military infrastructure and holding the hostages. However, on the average, Gaza’s population increases by 3% to 5% each year. So it is clear that the 1% targeted and the 1% collateral damage in this war is still below the replacement rate.

[@damirsabanovic7025]

From your statistics, the conclusion is that there is practically no war and that the threats faced by the self-proclaimed most moral army in the world do not require the military-intelligence assistance of America, Germany, England... Silly me!

[@georgeh8937]

@@damirsabanovic7025 you are silly damir sabanovic. explain why arabs can get new nations created by the western powers after the fall of the ottoman empire but jews can't get israel?.

[@AbrahamAllianceInstitute]

@ Yes, there is a war, but not a genocide. While people claim a genocide involved executing 5% to 50% of an identifiable people, I think the threshold is as little as 2% with reference to the birth rate. In that sense, Gaza has had more births than deaths. The targeted population in this war is the 1% who are armed. The collateral damage is estimated at one civilian for every single combatant executed. Matched with the lowest birth rate of 3%, the population of Gaza has grown in the past year.

[@connie.22]

@AbrahamAllianceInstitute older people ran in to israel on Oct 7, they didn't carry arms?? They were just tourists killing?

[@damirsabanovic7025]

@@AbrahamAllianceInstitute are you really serious and really believe it - or it is up to my 'wrongly adjusted' mind set that in the so-called safe zone it sees a safe zone, it knows that the deliberate targeting of Palestinian children is not and will not celebrate the "Sarajevo Safari" phenomenon and doesn't see laws of segregation and censorship as any socially useful sensations... and speaking of sensations, isn't it a sensation that I have to protest against of genocide and to question the credibility and jurisdiction of the ICC - even after your statistics!?!

[@tsopuaifa]

It is good to hear some facts in this matter and not the emotional dribble spread across social media and Swedish Public Service by Greta and her friends. Thanks Natasha.

[@Reneesfun]

Thank you Natasha. I saw her with Douglas Murray. Brilliant 🎉

[@stephendoherty981]

Oh poor you! Murray and Hausdorff, together? That must have been traumatic.

[@offroadoffshore153]

Were they both wearing their Klu Klux Klan outfits?

[@adhuna1009]

@@stephendoherty981 it was indeed. dumb and dumber personified.

[@adhuna1009]

@@stephendoherty981 indeed it was. a nightmare.

[@sea_ellef]

Douglas Murray the holocaust denier? Suddenly there’s an opportunity to be racist in a new, more exciting way and now he’s Israel’s friend…That’s some company to keep, a racist hatemonger cosplaying ‘journalist’ who couldn’t even tell which direction a rocket was firing from his perfectly safe position miles away.

[@mrespanfanx]

Natasha you are a hero❤️

[@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla]

Where is the full video?

[@hmproductionswitzerland8207]

Such a brillant woman !! ❤️🙏🇮🇱

[@gail2698]

Say no to ceasefire before you can say never again. Stay strong IDF 🇮🇱🇮🇱

[@offroadoffshore153]

That is called promoting or enabling g*nocide which was referred to in the ICJ preliminary orders for third parties to cease doing.

[@woyciechow-ska]

Thank you Natasha, you are a star!

[@offroadoffshore153]

Star Propagandist

[@sadiqpatel6832]

Star liar too !!!

[@lerkkweed]

To hear this woman speaking above the mindnumbing horrors Israel has perpetrated since October 7 is ... difficult. Hamas targeted them because of who they were? They targeted them because they have occupied, imprisoned and murdered them with impunity for decades for being of the wrong ethnic-religious category. Far more Palestinians have been killed by Israelis than the reverse e.g. during Operation 'Protective Edge' in 2014 2,125 Palestinians were slain and 18,000 homes destroyed or heavily damaged - far more than October 7; and perhaps half the Israelis killed that day were killed by the IDF under the Hannibal Directive. Gaza is not an independent nation but an Israeli prison interning a vast, inconvenient population of the wrong ethnic-religious category that threatens to upend its Jewishness. What makes a Jewish state more ethnical than an Aryan or Islamic state? Imagine had America been explicitly conceived as an Aryan-Christian state. It is not a war, it is a jailer shooting and bombing his prisoners. October 7 had nothing to do with Israel's Judaism but with the fact that Israelis have horribly disenfranchised, caged and brutalized Palestinians from the get-go. Natasha Hausdorff has performed a work of conceptual sabotage.

[@johanweakley2658]

As a South African I am ashamed of this corrupt ANC government we have. I stand with Israel.

[@chrise7359]

RIP Hind 😢

[@jamesdean1143]

The troubles in Israel are always benchmarked to October 7, 2023. And those in Ukraine, back to February 24, 2022. How very convenient.

[@richardellis2955]

Disgusting, evil slaughter, and land theft To a land you have absolutely no right to. So very evil.

[@francisfabian6577]

You are super Natasha. Thanks for lifting up Israel. I love Israel as a Christian. The Gof of Israel bless you and ecslt Israel.

[@themusesquad8554]

I'm always so happy when Natasha have her freckles showing.

[@christops2001]

I wish someone could explain why it seems to be an unwritten law that a people who have had a genocide committed against them are not capable of committing a genocide themselves? This seems to be the main objection to Israel being accused of Genocide, that as victims they cannot be perpetrators. yet its well know that those who are badly treated can in turn go on to treat others badly,

[@jmblass1]

That's not at all the objection. The objection has nothing to do with the Holocaust and everything to do with the fact that the allegation of genocide is not applicable in this case. Israel's military actions against the Palestinian Arabs in Gaza do not meet the actual criteria for 'Genocide'. Yes, lots of civilians were killed, but that's not necessarily genocide. The critical factor here is intent, of which there is zero evidence. What is Israel's stated objective? To route Hamas from Gaza. And that's exactly what they've been doing over the past fourteen months. The tens of thousands of Gazan civilians who have been killed in the process (if those numbers are accurate -- they're reported by Hamas whose reliability to report accurate figures is suspect) is indeed tragic. However, no one wanted it this way -- save for one party, Hamas. Hamas has been intentionally placing these civilians in Israel's line of fire, drawing the foul -- a true war crime. It's all on Hamas Were Israel intentionally firing on civilians for the sake of killing civilians, and more importantly, exterminating Palestinian Arabs just because they are Palestinian Arabs, then it could be genocide; the allegation would be applicable. However, (a) again, that is not Israel's stated goal, (b) the total number of Palestinian Arabs killed in Gaza is relatively small compared to the total population, and finally (c) the fact that there are Palestinian Arabs living in Israel with full citizenship and rights thereunto, undermines the claim, a strange inconsistency. The term 'Genocide' is being misused, abused, grossly and egregiously distorted here. If any objection could be made concerning use of the term, relative to the Holocaust, it's that its application does a gross injustice to the victims of the Holocaust, a true genocide.

[@13tuyuti]

@@jmblass1 it is precisely on the issue of intent that the ICJ has decided that the court case of South Africa against Israel has enough merit. The president of Israel has said that there are no innocents in Gaza. Other members of the cabibet have said things that indicate that the destruction of the Gazan civil society is part of their goal and would thus fit the line "deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part" from the definition of the crime of genocide in the Genocide Gonvention.

[@neologian1783]

@@13tuyuti Fortunately, anecdotal statements made by public officials...however abhorrent....are not the gauge used by the International Courts to determine genocide. Such "statements" would need to be manifest as policy in the instructions & orders given to, and the actions taken by, the Israeli military. Not only is this NOT the case, it's actually diametrically the opposite with the Israeli military receiving orders and behaving in ways that perform well above the acceptable standards for the conduct of war set by the International Courts.

[@13tuyuti]

@neologian1783 well, since you mentioned "the courts" in plural, lets start by pointing out that another international court, the ICC, appears to be not convinced at all that Israel is taking due precautions to avoid civilian casualties. In fact, it is so unconvinced that it issued an arrest warrant against Netanyahu for war crimes. Of course this does not necessarily mean that he is guilty but it does show that what is "clear" to you is not clear at all to the actual experts and that they do not agree that the evidence shows that the IDF conducts itself in an exemplary fashion. Since the destruction of civilian life is evident, the question wether this destruction is genocide hinges on wether this destruction is part of Israel's plan or merely an unintended consequence of the fight against Hamas. In that light the statements of cabinet members are far from anectdotal but rather central to determining wether the war crimes that are plausibly taking place are genocidal in nature.

[@sofiaGUT]

You are saying false and dangerous things. There is proof - solid proof that the hamas attack was genocide. That Israels army like any other army in the world was war to reach the hostages. The hamas cut out women's breasts and burned children alive while watching. Israeli army is like any army on planet earth- America, France, Germany, Austria. So the entire army's of planet earth are now genocide committing ? What is wrong with you?

[@gail2698]

Hamas and Hezbollah started conflict against Israel and Israel has the Right to Retaliate for self defense

[@stephendoherty981]

Palestinians have more of a right to self defence because they're the ones being occupied.

[@offroadoffshore153]

Nonsense. It didn't start on 7 Oct. Under Article 51 Israel has no right of self defence involving occupied people's and the military means it has employed. This woman is sprouting propaganda not the law.

[@KatalepticBoots]

Myopic nonsense. This all started long before Hamas or Hizbollah came into existence.

[@amandarhodes4072]

@@stephendoherty981 Absolutely fallacious statement with no basis in fact, history or reality. There has not been an Israeli in Gaza or the west bank since early 2000s The land Gaza occupies is legally Israeli land and the settlers there are not legitimately Palestinian. That is a historic title assigned to JEWS by the romans and modern Gazans and Arabs in the west bank are using to try to gain legitimacy for the land. Israel existed there before the Gazans and west bank Arabs moved in. They started a 4 day war over not wanting Jews as their neighbours..... Lost the conflict and were exiled to the west bank and Gaza as a result. The west bank still is Israeli land under the resettlement agreement that created the state of modern Israel. So the allegation of occupation is entirely unfounded.

[@michealpirate]

The illegal Apertheid occupiers not have right to defend themselves...

[@08V09]

This Woman takes the deconstruction of Preconceived Ideas about Israel to another Level.

[@vadimbecker9934]

Brilliant and clear exposition of the case.

[@DorianGray641]

A lot of verbal gymnastics to tiptoe around the issue of 50k+ innocents killed by Israel. To be clear: Hamas' actions on Oct 7 are to be condemned - no question about it. What must also be condemned is Israel's disproportionate response which is far worse.

[@lamegalectora]

Dont be absurd

[@JohnChristenNizzaDiCorsi]

None of those are innocent though.

[@DorianGray641]

@@JohnChristenNizzaDiCorsi This, in a nutshell, illustrates the problem with humanity: Some are blinded by hatred.

[@sea_ellef]

Natasha has assumed the attack on October 7th falls under the definition of genocide. She has also implies that being a victim of genocide gives one impunity to commit genocidal actions without it being termed or punished as genocide. The idea that the single violent action of a brutally oppressed people against its terrorisers could be termed as genocidal, is fragile if not facile. 45’000 is not acceptable, plus the utter obliteration of Gaza such that it is unliveable. The world WILL stop this horror. Alternatively, International law will collapse and the entire world will suffer the consequences in generations to come.

[@mouseandryforever6848]

No, she relies on evidence, the Hamas charter. She also understands the legal definition of genocide.

[@sea_ellef]

@@mouseandryforever6848 Clearly she misapplies her 'understanding' here and clearly you are not aware that Hamas recognised Israel as a state when they removed the offending part you're referring to from their charter, while Likud has not and Israel does not recognise Palestine, as if the people there do not have a right to self determination on their own land. Experts around the globe are not wrong about charges of extermination. It is tragic, and we might wish this entire situation had not been created by past horrors, but it is nevertheless true.

[@JohnChristenNizzaDiCorsi]

That's complete bogus.

[@Lee-kg7ze]

Apparently South Africa was almost bankrupt before making this claim to the ICC. It was said that Iran paid South Africa to make this claim against Israel - True? Or false?

[@lightninggod-q7i]

They pd the ruling SA political party, the ANC.

[@13tuyuti]

Highly improbable. It's not that Iran has enough money in pocket to make a significant difference in South Africa's budget.

[@offroadoffshore153]

False

[@Lee-kg7ze]

@@lightninggod-q7i That sounds about right, thanks

[@Lee-kg7ze]

@@13tuyuti That sounds logical - thanks

[@appletree1964]

Bravo Natasha! Love you.❤

[@sandywolfe9587]

An amazing intelligent young woman❤️. AM YISRAEL CHAI 🙏🏻🇮🇱

[@phish100123]

Natasha is immense!

[@sadiqpatel6832]

At lying I agree

[@flolan2]

Sorry I think truth is too difficult for you right now

[@_5_675]

Excellent presentation

[@sofiaGUT]

Very important explanation.

[@alexjohnson9630]

Thank you.

[@MrMHughes68]

That awkward moment when an informed adult enters the room.

[@angeldust7591]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@stephendoherty981]

When a biased adult enters the room, surely?

[@gerryc3112]

@@stephendoherty981 I'll bet you sat for hours trying to come up that brilliant response! hahahahaha

[@stephendoherty981]

@@gerryc3112 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@JF-sr7dp]

😂😂😂😂

[@MikeSmith-yl5md]

Natasha is there a way in international law to counter sue South Africa or ICC for some form of defamation of character for a nation?

[@flolan2]

Don't lose you're time and face truth

[@Lighthouse567]

Excellent Natasha 👏

[@SoundManNo9]

Despicable! Thank you, Natasha - Never Forget 🇮🇱

[@elmomontecerin1735]

I salute to you natasia ..you are the defender of Israel.

[@adhuna1009]

The world according to Natasha: - The intention of ONE Hamas fighter calling home to brag about his killings is somehow indicative of the guilt of every single Palestinian person, BUT the actions of senior IL officials (minister of defence, president, PM), do not mean anything and do not represent the country and army as a whole. - It is wrong to call what IL is doing a genocide, but let’s bandy about the word *blood libel* to denote anything and everything anyone dares say against the Israelis. - As usual, when in doubt, try to make people afraid, that if this can happen to IL, this can happen to you! It seems only IL is allowed to misuse a word, and nobody else. And Natasha is on a rampage because she wasn’t called on to represent IL at the ICJ. Boo! I thought there was no one more abhorrent than Douglas Murray, but I was completely wrong! Here he is in female form! Shudder!!

[@gilesembleton]

God bless you Natasha. You are so well spoken and so calm and logical.

[@FredricElias-oh2sn]

Well said. I'm sick and tired of these people throwing around words like, genocide ,to defame lsreal.

[@WilliamMatthewConnolly-m5i]

The Truth hurts.

[@леотен]

@@WilliamMatthewConnolly-m5i slander also hurts

[@offroadoffshore153]

So what is happening in plain view is a mirage? You need help.

[@flolan2]

It's because truth is something difficult. For many people, look: Founder of the Hebrew University Forum for Scholars of the Holocaust, Amos Goldberg: "Yes, it is genocide. It is so difficult to admit it, but despite all that, and despite all our efforts to think otherwise, after six months of brutal war we can no longer avoid this conclusion. Jewish history will henceforth be stained with the mark of Cain for the ‘most horrible of crimes,’ which cannot be erased from its forehead. As such, this is the way it will be viewed in history’s judgment for generations to come.”

[@estasb]

so being a once victim of an act excuses your response to a given situation. Like what was said in whole or in part, the directed starving or destruction of something

[@thomasmclain6888]

Delegation of authority without checks and balances always invites abuse.

[@jase1158]

listen to Bezalel Smotrich

[@jonathanbuckenmyer4888]

If you only partly destroy something is it really destroyed?

[@fgp1505th]

Whatever what you say to yourself to make you sleep better at night Natasha, there's no denying that 41000 Palestinians died. 'Oh it's collateral damage, it's war, this happens.' Yeah but not numbering in five digits of civilian casualties. I can't believe the nerve of these Israeli apologists

[@flolan2]

6 digits. 41,000 is only people killed by shooting/bombing. For one year hospitals are shutdown, severe malnutrition, deplorable hygiene conditions...So how many casualties ? The UK scientific journal The Lancet said 186,000 in july 2024

[@arnaudgams2248]

And we all know the real number is much higher.

[@BrigitteBreuch]

@@arnaudgams2248 No

[@uzilevi5817]

G'bless you

[@memoryhero]

Intellectual rockstar. Justifiably.

[@flolan2]

No, she's dishonest and manipulative, please see my extensive debunk of her speech

[@ymhertz845]

Correction: Mahmoud Abbas is in the twentieth year of his four-year term.

[@jonow9861]

Disappointing that people don't know the differences between legal standing, charges and burden of proof.

[@tiffanydaunt]

"The Bibi Files," Netanyahu's Corruption Case & How Endless War Keeps Him in Power......

[@mirrormundo]

If she want to convince 'the other side', then the yellow ribbon does not help...

[@gheller2261]

Nonsense.

[@throckmortensnivel2850]

I agree the term genocide is problematic. What is happening is Israel is committing war crimes and crimes against humanity, with the full agreement of the USA and the UK, and many other countries.

[@idomaniacs]

Nope. The Hamas is commiting war crimes against Jews and Arabs.

[@John-c3u9o]

Bezalel Smotrich yestereday told a conference of Israeli settler groups that "It is possible to create a situation where Gaza's population in two years will be less than half its current size." The Israeli soccer fans in Amsterdam , many of whom had served in Gaza, were chanting, "There's no schools in Gaza because we killed all the kids!" Hausdorff is the outward face of the Gaza War, denying any such thing as genocide. Meanwhile, the inner face of Israel is expressing satisfaction at what they are "accomplishing."

[@HabaneroTi]

Smotrich doesn't set policy on such matters and is just a racist blowhard. When Israel's actual policy is what you suggest it is, get back to us. Until then, very thin gruel you got there, especially compared to Hamas officially declaring that its intent is to destroy Israel and murder or expel its Jews. But you're ok with that, which tells us everything we need to know about you.

[@vincekerrigan8300]

kovie. Hear! Hear!

[@georgeh8937]

hey john. does the chant "from the river to the sea" mean killing jews or banishing them? and why do muslims get to do this? did allah tell them to? what verse in quran says this?

[@thepiratebaker1662]

Shall we start listing the statements by hamas leaders and chants from unrwa school children? Unfortunately if I did the comment would be deleted and I'd get shut down by YT Google fathi hamad

[@thepiratebaker1662]

​@@georgeh8937 Verses 2:191 5:33 9:30 47:4

[@markvonderhunt]

im flabbergasted at the pure evil of her tongue. She acts as if we are all stupid and blind.

[@gheller2261]

Oh look, the predictable answer of another phony social justice warrior who will reject any and all information that runs counter to the BS narrative that their Jew hating selves decided to embrace, facts be damned. Contrary to what you think, siding with Islamic radicals and terrorists does not make you a "good person." It makes you just another useful idiot.

[@flolan2]

Yes you're right. I really hope that one day she will open her eyes, and not stay like those old nazis still justifying the Third Reich

[@mabusestestament]

Explain…

[@gheller2261]

​@@mabusestestamentHe won't. He has just been conditioned to consider anyone with real knowledge whose information runs counter to the tripe that he decided the "good people" believe must be evil.

[@YoavMoran]

Name one falsehood in what her "evil tongue" has said.

[@roddawson8655]

Intelligence skewed: works for UK Lawyers for Israel, argues Israel's theft of land in the West Bank is misrepresented as 'annexation', has an Israeli father, and has ancestral links to Zionism that go back all the way back to 1947, etc.

[@mouseandryforever6848]

That's Judea and Samaria. It's the Jewish homeland. Learn some geography and history.

[@flolan2]

And the Jerusalem Post named her the #2 young "2024 ViZionary," that being the #2 “most influential young Zionist”. I fear this is a deal breaker for people really interested in truth.

[@flolan2]

@@mouseandryforever6848 2000 years ago. It's OVER.

[@bryanmurray9846]

Who you going to believe this representative of Israel or the international doctors working in Gaza? kzbin.info/www/bejne/rp6nn6OMacp5n80si=ZwdSh4ykBClVfvvK

[@flolan2]

Thanks for the link, such a stretch between the two speeches

[@malkyleah8802]

💯

[@nightingale58]

This young woman is brilliant. So clear and concise, with a lovely voice as a bonus.

[@chenal7445]

She’s a shill

[@kjr2868]

Raphael Lemkin who singlehandedly not only coined the phrase (comes from two greek words for killing of a people, as opposed to homicide 'man killing') But he also established the legal framework for this. He is one of my heroes in history! He would not call what Israel is being accused of, because Israel is not systematically killing an ethnic group. You can accuse them of war crimes under the Geneva convention. And the International Red Cross are the ones who are able to determine this in accordance with the Geneva convention. They haven't spoken out about this!

[@deaddudegaming]

He coin the phrase yes and established what genocide is but what constitue as a genocide under international has been refined and expanded on. If you actually knew what you were talking about and actually looked beyond what the media tells you then you would know Israel is absolutely committing a genocide. Let me give you an example there 3 of the five acts of genocide that Israel is currently committing. I'm not gone go on to the other three just the first one. Killing members of the group. People think in order for the first one to apply their has to be mass casualties like what Nazi did to Jews in WW 2. This is false. All you have to do is prove there some kind of Intinality to killing members of the group. When we say killing members of the group this means civilains. So how do we do this. Well for starters let's look at the Israel political leaders and their comments. Netanyahu, Ben Gver and many other Israel politicans have made genocidal commits about wipe out Gaza. Calling Palestine Animals and that they should all die. Making remarks and comparing what Israel is going to do to what Jews did to the Amalaks. There hours upon hours of video of high ranking political leaders making genocidal comments. Then you can look at the military. From the top down there been just as many of not more genocidal comments from the military. Solider talking about they are gone kill every Palestine or level Gaza to the ground. How they are gone deprive them of food, water and power and calling them animals. These are just a handful of examples. If it were a few here or their it could be over looked but their had been so mamy comments it' can't be over looked because the comments reflect what we see on the ground. Which brings us to some actions. Moving the civilain population from one safe zone to another and then bombing those safe zones shows an intent to kill the civilain population. Israel also has not provided any kind of idea how and when the attacks in Gaza will end. It seems like this endless cycle of moving Palesting from one location to another then bombing tbose safe zone with no real end t it. This shows am intent to kill members of the group. Its not about how many you kill all at once but that your intentionally killing members of the group doing it slowly doesn't make it less of a genocide. That is just the first act if genocide that is being committed. The other two acts can also play in to the first act. The amount of evidence of genocide is so overwhelming you have to be completely a dishonest person like this @&@% or be a complete moron who buried their head in the sand and doesnt want to see the evidence. There reason why every expert on Genocide has stepped forward and said Israel is indeed committing an act of genocide. Also genocide does not have to look like what happen to the Jews in WW2. Which is why most people think what Israel is doing is not act of Genocide. Ad pointed out the act of genocide had been expanded and refined on sense it was originally coined. This will happen to the term Aparthied as well. What Israel doing in the West Bank is an Apartheid by all accounts. The problem is West Bank is not apart of Israel so it doesn't quite meet all the qualifications of an Apartheid. It has all the Hallmarks of an Apartheid. So eventually the laws on Apartheid will be expanded on. To prevent anothet country from doing what Israel is currently doing.

[@dannyhughes4889]

Very convincing except to someone who doesn't want to hear truth and thus be convinced.

[@MannavanHuyssteen-zf3jc]

Brilliant discussion!

[@tiffanydaunt]

10:13 / 18:30 Britain in Palestine 1917-1948

[@janettucker3196]

Over and over. The Jew haters keep demanding the same explanation. This should have been settled by now.

[@offroadoffshore153]

Not Jew haters, haters of civilians being murdered at scale and a decades long illegal and brutal occupation

[@gheller2261]

Ooh "brutal" occupation. That sounds bad. Spare us your phony concern for Arabs who you would never have at your dinner table or want as neighbors.

[@sadiqpatel6832]

​@@gheller2261 Yes you have nailed her. Spot on and well done

[@13tuyuti]

The definition of "genocide" is not being stretched. There's a court case going on in the Hague to see if Israel's actions fit the current definition. What is being stretched is the definition of "antisemitism".

[@flolan2]

Very good

[@Klee99zeno]

What is "antisemitism"? It is usually defined as a hatred of Jews and a prejudice against Jews. Are the people of Israel Jews? Yes. They are Jews living in the the original homeland of the Jews, worshipping at the holiest place in Judaism, the temple wall, fulfilling the Jewish prophecy of a return to Jerusalem that is in the prayers of Jews all over the world. The land of Israel is full of the places prominent in he Jewish scripture, where the greatest events in Jewish antiquity happened. Israel is the most Jewish place in the world, and the Jews in Israel are the most Jewish Jews in the world. If you express hatred and prejudice for the most intensely Jewish Jews in the world, you are certainly being antisemitic.

[@JohnChristenNizzaDiCorsi]

Not true.

[@Mr_Logician]

What would you call denying people of another religion food, water and medicines?

[@offroadoffshore153]

1930/40's Germany and Poland

[@ML-mu6vr]

The problem is that the Israelis are not. Hamas is viciously capturing the goods and selling it. The Israelis are now going to give it out themselves.

[@sadiqpatel6832]

​@@ML-mu6vr BS pull the other one. Absolutely laughable your comments so full of lies.

[@mouseandryforever6848]

Why is Israel responsible for that when Gazans have their own govt? Oh right, they don't have that responsibility but they send truckloads of aid into Gaza.

[@Mr_Logician]

@@mouseandryforever6848 Gaza is an open air Prison.

[@MF-de6jh]

It takes about forty five minutes by helicopter to fly from one side of Israel to the other. I.D.F. border surveillance is absolute world class, nothing happens at their borders that they are ever unaware of. Yet it took several hours for the Israeli Defence Force to arrive and respond to the attacks. Explain that, if you can. I'm not excusing Hamas or the Israeli government, they are birds of a feather flocking together, there is a much larger picture in play here, if you have an eye to see.

[@Klee99zeno]

You can use words in a way that has strong emotional impact, but that doesn't mean you are speaking the truth. People try to make their case using the strongest language possible. That's why they exaggerate their statements and speak in the most provocative words possible. They current activists want to make Israel look like the most evil, demonic country that ever existed. To do this they use the most inflammatory, painful, devastating word they can think of: GENOCIDE. This word is an especially powerful weapon for use against Jews because it evokes the most terrifyingly dark event in Jewish history, the actual genocide of the holocaust. You can then accuse the Jews of doing the very thing they hate most.

[@flolan2]

Founder of the Hebrew University Forum for Scholars of the Holocaust, Amos Goldberg: "Yes, it is genocide. It is so difficult to admit it, but despite all that, and despite all our efforts to think otherwise, after six months of brutal war we can no longer avoid this conclusion. Jewish history will henceforth be stained with the mark of Cain for the ‘most horrible of crimes,’ which cannot be erased from its forehead. As such, this is the way it will be viewed in history’s judgment for generations to come.” I hope one day you will open your eyes.

[@adilsamara5005]

Free Palestine of apartheid

[@Good-v9w]

😂😂😂😂

[@adilsamara5005]

@ 😉🇵🇸 😎 🍉 🤩

[@cynthiagreene-l1x]

I’d rather free Palestine of Islamist terrorist groups who have destroyed the lives of civilians, but you do you 🙄

[@BillieJolene1]

No actually it's not genocide when you're talking about religion people can choose their religion

[@flolan2]

The dream of dreams would be that Leyan and Natasha meet: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGKbgZSAg956jJY

[@purpleflame334]

Natasha is a great voice of truth, sanity and morality on today's arena ❤

[@sadiqpatel6832]

A voice for trash and everything that's disgusting and evil

[@LayLoow]

😂

[@mrharpable]

They’ve stretched the meaning of philistin and colonialism, so why not?

[@julienanderson3823]

Just to give one piece of the mountains of evidence at this point that wasn't even in the original accusation that brought them to trial The finance minister said they could halve the population of gaza, resettle all of gaza, advocated for total destruction of Judea and sumaria, and then advocated for the position that anything that moves dies. Atleast update the propaganda if you can't answer the specific criticisms, idiot.

[@hermienbooyens1105]

I live in south Africa only 33perc believe in this hate Suliman is not doing anything for fr3 Rhamaposa is high up in putins a. We don't like him. We love Jews 🤩

[@hillel4855]

This young woman is brilliant.

[@sadiqpatel6832]

Brilliant at lying. A despicable depraved individual

[@flolan2]

No, she's dishonest and manipulative, please see my extensive debunk of her speech

[@PanChovilla-pu1vh]

Mispelt muurder is still murder.

[@Gabriel20245]

Mental and words tricks, as usual, nothing new here

[@BernadetteSaliba-h2i]

Why is she smirking?

[@DavidMcKinley-fm4mq]

What a load of bollocks😂😂😂😂😂

[@aoifelalor2911]

South Africa are the heroes here.

[@Shoshanna-jn3fx]

LOOK UP NELSON MANDELA FIGHTING SOUTH AFRICA ,A TRUE APARTHEID COUNTRY ,FOR THE RIGHTS TO EXIST , INSANITY OF SOUTH AFRICA CALLING ISRAEL AN APARTHEID STATE,COUNTRY OR WHATEVER ,2 MILLION ARABS LIVE ALONGSIDE 7 MILLION ISRAELIS WITH HAVING THE SAME RIGHTS , NONE OF THESE 2 MILLION ISRAELI ARABS HAVE IMMIGRATED OUT OF THE ONLY DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDDLE EAST !!

[@davidlewis5742]

Strange definition of heroes. Amazes me how you can watch that video and still have the gall to make curt politically biased propagandist statements. Anyone who has the intellect to listen to the arguments and the history of this case can understand what they are hearing. Your knee jerk smartarse response can really only be achieved if you are really dim or just a bigot.

[@adhuna1009]

By Natasha's logic, just because a person was assaulted (i.e. a victim of assault), means they can never be guilty of committing assault against ANOTHER person. How lovely!

[@ML-mu6vr]

It's called protection and a message ' don't try that again'

[@sadiqpatel6832]

​@@ML-mu6vr No it's called genocidal vengeance

[@flolan2]

More precisely in Natasha's logic: because someone's grand parent has been assaulted, this guy can never be guilty of commiting assault. This is an insult to our intelligence.

[@chrise7359]

Strange how Palestine and Gaza don't seem to be part of her vocabulary. Saying something is false and meritless doesn't make it so.

[@flolan2]

Problems start at 2:50. It seems that for Natasha, because the recognised legal definition of 'genocide' is rooted in the jewish Holocaust 80 years ago you can't sue the state of Israel for this crime. Isn't that utterly strange ? So for you is it "monstrous and abusive" to accuse someone who won a Nobel peace price with, say, murder because of its pedigree ? Dear Natasha, *Justice only consider facts* , a crime is a crime whoever did it, even if someone with a Nobel peace price or an Israeli government is the perpetrator. So first very weak point with Natasha Hausdorff, and that's an understatement. This is utterly dishosnest and manipulative. Then, at 3:36. Oh so you're saying that 7 October attack is a genocide. Is 9-11 terrorist attack on Manhattan recognized as 'genocide' *more than 20 years later ? NO* I won't defend Hamas in any way because of their violence toward civilians both israeli and palestinians. BUT: "Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project *not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish* but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity." (Hamas 2017 charter chapter 16) So for this point again Natasha it will be very difficult to qualify 7 October as 'genocide'. Yes of course there is a clear terrorist intention to commit a terrorist attack, you don't do that by mistake ! This is not enough for genocidal intention, and you know it very well. 7 October is a crime against humanity. Another big problem at 5:12. So sorry but *the victims of 7 October are not accused of committing genocide on palestinians* , the accusation is on israeli government and IDF. Period. This intentional amalgam is pure manipulation, once again. At 6:50 you say Israel committing genocide is "absolutely false allegation" please refer to november 14 declaration: "UN Special Committee finds *Israel’s warfare methods in Gaza consistent with genocide* " I know some people will say "yes yes UN, ICJ, ICC...bull...it". This is not reasonable to attack integrity of such huge international organization. This is mere negationism. And yes, there is 'Israel' and 'genocide' in the same sentence, of course I can understand you're shocked. We're waiting for ICJ ruling (2026 ? It won't take that long) Oh at 8:00 you seem to minimize first ICJ ruling, and invite us to read it. Well, let's do it ! What those damn 'plausible rights' can be... *ICJ Order of 26 January 2024* 66. In view of the fundamental values sought to be protected by the Genocide Convention, the Court considers that *the plausible rights in question in these proceedings, namely the right of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip to be protected from acts of genocide* and related prohibited acts identified in Article III of the Genocide Convention and the right of South Africa to seek Israel’s compliance with the latter’s obligations under the Convention, *are of such a nature that prejudice to them is capable of causing irreparable harm* And then: 74. In light of the considerations set out above, *the Court considers that there is urgency, in the sense that there is a real and imminent risk that irreparable prejudice will be caused to the rights found by the Court to be plausible* , before it gives its final decision. Sorry again (nothing personal) at 10:25 you pretend (with a cold smile) that Israel is complying with its obligations under the genocide convention the whole time. Well, "One month after the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ordered “immediate and effective measures” to protect Palestinians in the occupied Gaza Strip from the risk of genocide by ensuring sufficient humanitarian assistance and enabling basic services, *Israel has failed to take even the bare minimum steps to comply* , Amnesty International said today" I won't copy-paste the whole internet...it's seems that you are a liar Natasha. Think. You can fool people not aware, you won't fool high Court judges. Just one last thing, the Jerusalem Post named you the #2 young "2024 ViZionary," that being the #2 “most influential young Zionist”. I fear this is a deal breaker for people really interested in truth. I stop there, no point to go to the end of this video.

[@takeoffyourcolours0]

Thanks for this analysis, it’s very helpful and enlightening.

[@Shoshanna-jn3fx]

A GENOCIDE ,YOUR VERSION ,A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY ,THE INNOCENT ,CHILDREN,WOMEN AND MEND WERE STILL RAPED AND TORTURED TO "DEATH" WHATEVER WORD THAT YOU DEEM FIT TO DESCRIBE OCT 7 TH AND THE "DEEDS" OF GAZAN TERRORISTS !! TELL YOUR INTERNATIONAL LAW ,TO FREE ALL THE CHILDREN,WOMEN AND MEN THAT WERE KIDNAPPED TO GAZA ,ITS BEEN OVER 1 YEAR ALREADY !!

[@EL_Bi_]

@@flolan2 great post, thnx!

[@angeldust7591]

Bravo!!!! Beautifully dismantled her bs.

[@matthewknight6250]

You do of course know that the original Hamas charter of 1988 references Sahih Muslim 2922 directly right?

[@GerryAdriano-d1s]

GERRY..A..UN 🥀✨♥️💞💋

[@shai2972]

Natasha's always so eloquent and precise. Exceptional delivery as usual.

[@sadiqpatel6832]

Yes about BS & whitewashing a blatant genocide

[@damirsabanovic7025]

yes, those long fingers always reach the bottom of other people's pockets as usual...

[@flolan2]

You're praising nonsense. She's dishonest and manipulative, please see my extensive debunk of her speech.

[@geraldarcuri9307]

Nothing like the facts to explode the idiotic myths and claims against Israel. Next we need Natasha to take on the abuse of and the actual definition of the word "racism", a term that is bandied about willy-nilly by nitwits.