DON'T Update To MacOS Sonoma...Do THIS Instead! |Musicians, Producers, Engineers |

[@Johnmike]

www.production-expert.com/apple-macos-ventura-audio-compatibility-chart

[@DojoOfCool]

Great advice. I worked as a SysAdmin for years and eventually got back into recording and because of my SysAdmin background I was the IT guy for the Media department. Basically never update a production computer unless the update has a fix your sys has to have. Then if possible build a test computer like your production system and test the update on it before ever installing it on a production system. As John Paul said.... If it ain't broke don't fix it. It's a good policy for home computers too. Enjoy your working computer having to rebuilt production computers are a major pain, not only the rebuild process, but all the people yelling at you "when are you going to be done???" every five minutes.

[@DetlefRecktenwald-Healing]

I purchased beginning of 2023 my first Mac , OS Ventura. Running Ableton Live and lots of plugins, I just upgraded to Sonoma and I am happy I did, Ableton runs faster as it was in Ventura. During my time on windows, I had a lot of headaches. I learned with windows, never run an old computer, hacking the system to make it work.

[@pranayraj7130]

I updated to Mac os 14 and my logic is crashing when I turn on flex pitch .. any suggestion please

[@erickchrys]

If you are on a project and you update major OS version e.g. 12 - 14, you are creating additional project of optimising whatever was working fine before. It is okay to stick with the same OS version for even 3-4 years enough time to trade in new laptop. Just upgrade minor versions e.g. 12.5 - 12.7

[@williamshaneblyth]

I have a 2011 macmini been going well in Bitwig bit its stuck at Catalina. Ive been thinking of getting a new mini M series for last year or so then I saw a company was selling a Macstudio M1 Max and was over $500 cheaper than the M2 which really isnt much faster Id never notice but the point is I saved a ton of money and it came with Ventura NOT Sonoma which to me was a big plus as I knew the audio drivers worked for my Fantom 0 and other gear with no issues so save money if you can buy one step back and get one step back in the OS at the same time. win win. cheers bro

[@tandoorimoori]

I saw this video too late. I updated and now my macbook 2023 has all sorts of problems

[@lukefotografia]

The same here 😩

[@mairissvigers6981]

I updated my Intel 16 Mac to Sonoma 14.2 and it is not charging plugged in, and restarts randomly. I literally can't use my Mac for work now. Trying to find a solution for last two days.

[@morenrgy]

GOD DAMN 5K$ MACBOOK M1 WITH A TON OF PROBLEM, FLSTUDIO STOP PLAYING RANDOMLLY, CAN'T STREAM MUSIC COZ OBS CAUSE CRACK POPS, ABLETON GOT RANDOM CRACK AND POPS, WHEN FL STUDIO IS OPEN AND ABLETON TOO... AGAIN CRACKS AND POPS, I FUCKING HATE CRACK AND POPS ON MY FUCKING 5K$ COMPUTER FxCK APPLE FOR REAL Ok now i'm calm, the problem is tha tnow we got this fucking orange microphone icon on the top who litterally fuck everything, damn i hate this icon, and i hate apple for being dumb like that, litterally pc that cost 1K$ can do stream + music without any problem and me im fucked... That really crazy DON'T UPDATE THIS SHIT AND WHY NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS FUCKING PROBLEM EVEN THE ROSETTA THING WITH PLUGIN COMPATIBILITY IS DAMN TRASH? ANALOG LAB TAKE 5 FUCKING MINUTES TO OPEN ON ABLETON(not just ableton) GAD DAMN WHY NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT THIS ?????????? I HATE YALLLLLLLL (Sorry i had to say all that coz im really upset like u can see ...)

[@tandoorimoori]

I found a solution. Check out the video titled "Downgrade from macOS Sonoma to Ventura on M1 & M2 Macs! (3 DIFFERENT WAYS!)" from Mr. Macintosh@@mairissvigers6981

[@tandoorimoori]

I found a solution. Check out the video titled "Downgrade from macOS Sonoma to Ventura on M1 & M2 Macs! (3 DIFFERENT WAYS!)" from Mr. Macintosh @@lukefotografia

[@OmarAhmed-rg2ii]

Yes, Sonoma Draining battery like crazy, I regret upgrading it.

[@filbgyibcfyjechik3612]

you can still downgrade

[@TheBasketproductions]

I've learned from a long time ago not to upgrade any OS without confirming my current audio hardware is compatible... 9/10 there will be no be a huge issue and a compromise to upgrade the OS without the current technological change... ie... Upgrading past Monterey and your not using a M1/M3 architecture Mac... You will not be able to utilize all the functionality... if you ever will depending on how long Apple will support said " Hardware " / " Software "

[@helloken]

It's really simple, really GOOD ADVICE that a lot of people will ignore. I've gone through many situations where upgrading 'because newer should be better!' is just simply not true if it doesn't work as intended! Came here after getting a new M1 Mac Mini and loaded Sonoma on it thinking may as well start clean with the latest OS. It's been having a lot of issues especially when connecting external drives. So much so that it suddenly cut power while a spinning hard drive powered by the USB port was connected, causing it to de-power, the repower up within 1 second (that can't be good for a classic spinning HDD). If the HDD is dead it would sting a lot due to the data loss because of course, I haven't backed up like the silly person that I am... The thing is I should of known this, but my old Mac is just humming along for years and years on Mojave (at least 4+ years old) and I'd forgotten that new releases of MacOS have been quite buggy in the past (I had a terrible experience with an old build of Leopard 10.5.0 for example that was largely fixed by 10.5.2 or so). Don't update unless you need it for whatever reason or you don't depend on your computer to be stable and predictable. Now this is never a guarantee, but less likely to have issues on older and more mature software.

[@IAMBLUSH]

Thank you for this!! I’m about to get the M2 Mac Studio and needed to know which OS to have installed!! 🎉🎉

[@alfredoistic]

Mac OS X Public Beta (Kodiak): September 13, 2000 Mac OS X 10.0 (Cheetah): March 24, 2001 Mac OS X 10.1 (Puma): September 25, 2001 Mac OS X 10.2 (Jaguar): August 24, 2002 Mac OS X 10.3 (Panther): October 24, 2003 Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger): April 29, 2005 Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard): October 26, 2007 Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard): August 28, 2009 Mac OS X 10.7 (Lion): July 20, 2011 OS X 10.8 (Mountain Lion): July 25, 2012 OS X 10.9 (Mavericks): October 22, 2013 OS X 10.10 (Yosemite): October 16, 2014 OS X 10.11 (El Capitan): September 30, 2015 macOS 10.12 (Sierra): September 20, 2016 macOS 10.13 (High Sierra): September 25, 2017 macOS 10.14 (Mojave): September 24, 2018 macOS 10.15 (Catalina): October 7, 2019 macOS 11.0 (Big Sur): November 12, 2020 macOS 12.0 (Monterey): October 25, 2021 macOS 13.0 (Ventura): October 24, 2022

[@BoomDocs14K]

Great video and thanks for your time creating this. Today, I bought a Mac Mini (M1) strictly for DJ use with Serato. I have 16 GB of memory and 2 TB of SSD storage. I just checked the Serato release notes that say it's compatible with Sonoma OS. I'm not sure what OS the Mac will ship with being that I bought it Apple Refurb. Hopefully jumping straight to Sonoma is the right chess move! Thanks again for your insight!!!

[@MikeCoren-z7l]

This is great advice! Always make sure your mission-critical software is compatible before updating the OS. I always wait until at least the ".1" OS release if I can, for both the OS vendor and the software makers to work out the kinks. Thanks for making this video!

[@cesarq6011]

Great Vid John! does this still apply today May 2024? Or should i keep waiting?

[@fantaztikbeatz]

I purchased a Mac Studio it came with Sonoma and its buggy af I'm gonna have to downgrade. Thanks for the link brother!

[@bobbyjimenez4482]

Mine in an unsupported macbook pro 2104 was on ventura after awhile upgraded to sonoma but it created problem with WiFi and Bluetooth .. So have to reinstall all over again to downgrade.... Never again to upgrade to the latest version esp if the unit not new.....

[@rlwhite68]

I wish I would’ve saw this yesterday my Native Instruments product is trash right now

[@OfficialStevenCravis]

Kontakt version 7.6.1 also on its own caused big CPU Spike problems. Any version 7.7 and above are good.

[@fivechordmusic]

Thanks for the advice. Production Expert is my go to as well. cheers !

[@Quiz2passGoal]

I guess when Anki says Need a new version 12.1 or older🤔. Big Sur vs Sonoma. All confusing. I just want to log on and do what do.

[@Fon92i]

Hello. I buy iMac with sonoma. My mpc studio doesn’t work anymore. Is there a solution? No more money to buy new mpc studio2. 🙏

[@danteenlasnubes]

too late. I can't open Logic Pro x or garageband. im kllg myself...

[@Ocho474]

I have the new mcOS Sonoma update and now I have issues trying to use Studio One 5, I keep getting this yellow dot on the top right corner or screen saying microphone but studio one has access to the microphone already, what a nightmare 😮

[@neglectedloves]

Thanks for the video and I have always been a latest adopter... could you tell me if Sonoma is bug free by now or at least almost? Thanks 🙌🏻

[@Johnmike]

@@neglectedloves I’m on Sonoma on my Mac Studio and all seems to be working fine

[@neglectedloves]

@@Johnmike thanks a lot for your quick response 🙏🏻

[@libertariancapitalist]

I just pulled my Mac mini M1 out of the closet. It’s running Monterey and I was wondering if I should update to Sonoma. I’m not sure if I should, I edit videos every now and then using iMovie and haven’t had any issues.

[@Alexandra-iq6vi]

Hi, this video was 11 months ago, have you now updated to MacOs Sonoma? When would be the best time to update the software on a Mac before it starts getting glitchy and not working at all? I currently have MacOs Big Sur 11.7.10, which was the last Big Sur made and supported. If you hopefully reply to my comment, thank you in advance.

[@itsurguy7756]

More reason why you should become a hybrid music producer or just stay mostly analog with the use of audio digital convertor. Also I have told people that the new concept of these digital suppliers is that they will start discontinuing support for their older hardware devices, software and force you to buy their latest hardware device with the latest software. So, if you had the audio analog hardware devices you would not have had to replace it for years. In the long run you will have spent a lot of money on upgrades. And guess what, your software that is not supported is something that you can't hold in your hand and neither is it something to sell become it's just digital 1s and 0s. My advice it to stay analog as much as possible and don't get caught in the digital software trap.

[@felixftp9670]

Mhh, I was randomly updating to sonoma. I have the feeling my plugins loading a little bit faster. I'm using ableton. No issues at all.

[@kartickgupta4118]

Thanks man 🙏🏻

[@Logik195]

Hello, can I ask you, I just got my Mac 16 pro 2019 (I know it’s kinda old), can I ask you what system is better for this mac Sonoma, Ventura or Monterey? Thanks!

[@Johnmike]

@@Logik195 I’m on Sonoma and all is working well

[@sgtbetter]

Hello from Down Under John :) Quick question, often when we're prompted to update, things start getting wonky in Logic if we don't, what then?

[@zakaroonetwork777]

I Screwed the Pooch. Is there a way I can Reformat my Intel Mac mini to an Older operating system? Sonoma is Glitching out all my Apps. I just wanted the new Sampler in Logic, But now Im getting TAL sampler. Apple ruined my Music Career in the 90's When I was using Cubase on a Power PC Clone Mac. Updated to os 8 and the computer self destruct. Apple Strikes again.

[@ChrisMaverick34]

Ventura or Monterey ?

[@tkey23]

my Mac is so slow after the Sonoma update what can I do about this or should I just go a version back?

[@ohcacestpastresgentil8462]

watching this video while installing sonoma on my macbook pro 2012 lmao help

[@markimmedia5325]

I'm struggling having an issue when I connect my Maschine MK3 as a sound interface I cannot turn the System volume up/down somehow I'm using 12.01 montery mac OS 2020Apple suppoet said I have to update but I have a Cracked LOGIC ProX does it make sense to update I'm worried about logic pro

[@thwelly]

Real Update to Ventura .... or better to complete reinstall everything on Ventura? I'm on Monterey.

[@filbgyibcfyjechik3612]

celan install with usb driver is always better, but u have to save all your data on external drive cause it will erase all of your stuff

[@sourcefor]

Why does My session sputter when I first start it up and try to play, could it be Kontakt?

[@devincallen1257]

damn bruh, I need izotope, and they didn't update it yet for Ventura, that's mad frustrating so idk if I wanna lose those plugins just for this update.....

[@ScottAlec-jf9qi]

Hey John so I am still running on Catalina 2019 I believe. I am scared to death to update my Mac but I keep hearing that Kontakt 7 needs an updated MacOS 11 or something and that my plugins should be fine. What should I do ?

[@revp01]

Correct. Good advice.

[@dbbias1416]

Thank you ❤

[@michaeltraudt7372]

let's get real data. reach out. I think your passion counts- and we can make some benefits.

[@beatprocess]

Any update

[@brandoncrenshaw]

Love the boca on this video bro. I thought you used a green screen.

[@Johnmike]

Lol thanks!

[@pranayraj7130]

Hey , i updated to mac os 14 and my logic crashes everytime when i turn flex pitch.. should i update logic pro also ? What should i do

[@augnickdutta3091]

Is arturia's interface and midi s are compatible with sonoma

[@black_baron_net]

☠BLACK BARON☠0:48 ... this said ... all fixes are made in the latest and greatest 13.6 Update with all performance improvements, security improvements and no more software and iCloud and Sync glitches ... at the END of a long long long OSX development cycle ... till the NEXT "Infinite Loop" cycle begins with "So No Ma?"

[@Casaaaaandra82]

Thanks i saw this late😅😅😅😅

[@prodby.wxv3]

AGHGHGHGHGHGHG IM ON SONOMA

[@Gem-Ex]

Basically just stick with Monterey or Mojave. You're welcome.

[@staysmuth]

rip to my google drive gang that updated to Sonoma

[@elijahmatthew5270]

Sonoma almost broke my MacBook Pro

[@shmk1]

I stuffed up an upgraded, logic is now a crash fest 😂 joy

[@ivaj2010]

ATENCION!! ,Cubase 12 pro , NO FUNCIONA CON macOS Sonoma,

[@hoodieindahood]

I lost the possibility to use everything because of this upgrade lmao TOTAL SHIT!

[@docdigit4639]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZOwioutitKgnNk For installations on 2008-2017+ Macbooks

[@veritas7010]

I've made the gravest mistake , it's true. Sonoma is pure trash especially on intel, simply performance wise. Don't ever upgrade if you got intel

[@richshafiee]

crack user ? 😅

[@JonniArmani]

Sanoma is a dog-

[@DSMuzikProInc]

Don’t know why you have to keep saying this every time 😂

[@Johnmike]

Lololol Eggsactly lol

[@Mr.Zen_73]

Sage advice!

[@Quarantus]

Thanks man!