Mac Users Deserve Better - 7 Unacceptable Problems with MacOS

[@tipoomaster]

One of the craziest choices about macOS is if you select say 20 folders and get info, expecting to get a combined estimate of their storage...Instead it just bursts 20 separate get info windows at you. Yes I know the key combo now, but it's a semi common new user thing to hit.

[@AnanthakrishnanThachilath]

CMD+Option+I is your friend

[@Frexuz]

@@AnanthakrishnanThachilath And how is that "it just works" ? :D

[@diablosv36]

Yep ive had the miss fortune of doing that a few times.

[@zachariah380]

@@AnanthakrishnanThachilath I don't think needing to memorize and use a secret handshake should be required for extremely basic functionality. Nobody selects multiple folders wanting to get the information in separate windows, then have to add them up manually 😂. So I shouldn't have to memorize cmd ctrl optn ninja f2 shift minus 7 i to do what's wanted by literally everyone except that one guy frank who sits in the basement with his stapler.

[@bukharysalime6183]

i regret doing this

[@Felinusfish]

The issue with multi-monitors is such a big issue with MacOS. I can't believe how poor the support is for such a vital feature that a lot of users have to rely on, on a daily basis.

[@ghostlimits8453]

My biggest issue with external displays is the horrible experience with ultra wide displays. I have a Neo G9 and while it IS the extreme end of ultra wide being 32:9. Windows handles it perfectly with zero setup.

[@Piipperi800]

Also, what they didn't touch on was how Apple Silicon is basically lacking some type of AA that x86 Macs have, which makes non-high DPI displays look blurry.

[@joshua7551]

I didn't even know this was an issue until one of my clients purchased a Mac studio and two identical monitors. I still have no idea how to get the monitors to behave correctly.

[@Trihawk7]

having to click into a different display each time to activate the display is the most annoying thing.

[@TheAstorre]

@@ghostlimits8453 I cannot get my 32 ultrawide to run at 100hz no matter what, I already spent 100+€ on cables, screen just go dark when I select 100hz

[@BrainfooTV]

I can't believe you didn't start with no indication of transfer speed of external storage.

[@davidlee9074]

Disabling Spotlight search indexing on flash drives significantly speeded up transfers for me. But the hours of trial-and-error and self-doubt was painful!

[@BrainfooTV]

@@fastmot1on 😂

[@mothwoman2004]

It just works oh someone already said it

[@stuartstogdill2406]

No need to even know that info truly.

[@BrainfooTV]

@@stuartstogdill2406 many times I've been waiting for 20 plus minutes to transfer data to a USB. If I know the transfer rate, file size and the expected transfer rate I can diagnose a problem and correct it. Call me old fashioned but I expect a computer to work it out for me and tell me.

[@natbarmore]

5:10 right there with you! “Natural” scrolling is fine-even better-on a touchpad. But it’s completely bass ackward with a scrollwheel. To the point that since I’ve had to choose between awkward scrolling with my touchpad and awkward scrolling with mouse wheel, the #1 thing I do when setting up macOS is turn off “natural” scrolling. This kind of coupling of things that are “obviously” [to me] likely to have disparate preferences within a single user is one of the things about recent macOS that is a constant annoyance. So a tool that lets me set touchpad scrolling to a “natural” direction while _also_ have scrollwheel scrolling set to the “natural” direction (which is the opposite of what feels natural on a touchpad) is absolutely worth the money. Another example: “smart quotes” and “smart dashes” used to be 2 separate settings in macOS. Which was great. Typing typographers quotes is a pain, and the only couple places I might want to avoid them-Terminal and BBEdit-don’t use [that part of] the macOS text engine. But typing proper dashes (- or -) has been stupid-easy on macOS since…System 6(? Maybe earlier?), so there’s no need to have the OS automagically type them for you. It’s arguably even easier to type - or - on iOS. Moreover, there are not-uncommon reasons to type -- and actually mean --, not -, so turning on smart dashes isn’t just unnecessary, it actually gets in my way. So I have to choose whether to have proper quotation marks and also have to jump through hoops any time I want to type multiple hyphens, or have easy access to hyphens and dashes but then have to remember to manually type proper quotation marks (fairly easy on iOS; kinda annoying on macOS). Depending on OS version, you might or might not be able to turn on smart punctuation and then use a text substitution to override turning two hyphens into an em-dash. It has gone back and forth since they consolidated smart dashes and smart quotes. Currently, I’m stuck with em-dashes on iOS (without some serious hoop-jumping), and macOS overrides my text substitution but if I’m paying attention I can ⌘-Z it. And none of this is because either option is inherently “good” or “bad”-it’s entirely because the options for two different settings are linked, and I argue that since it’s easy to type proper dashes and kinda tricky to type proper quotation marks, one should _expect_ there to be a group of people who want automated help with the latter but not the former.

[@_renssies]

To add to the multiple display issues, Apple's hardware could support DisplayPort MST, but they don't do it in software. If you put Windows on an Intel MacBook it works, macOS, nope. DisplayPort MST is the tech used by most docks to support multiple displays over 1 USB-C or thunderbolt connection.

[@PvtAnonymous]

I think this is due to their proprietary GMUX design. On hardware level.

[@PvtAnonymous]

@@SimonBauer7 no, it's a kernel issue. GMUX switching is handled very differently in macOS and Windows. But in theory, yes, Apple could rewrite the kernel to support DP MST. That won't really matter though I guess, since Intel Macs are being fazed out.

[@_PatrickO]

@@PvtAnonymous Hold up, you just glossed over your lie. Why did you claim this is a hardware limitation when OP just said installing windows on the same hardware has the feature work just fine?

[@Extremexboxplayer]

@@PvtAnonymous so you say it's not a software issue and then in the same sentence tell us that it's a software issue?

[@n0vi]

DisplayLink drivers work well on macOS. I do enterprise Apple management and the DisplayLink Manager app works every time, Intel or Apple Silicon.

[@KeppyKep]

I love that Harrison trolled Horst by having him do the bit that he disagreed with! Also, Alex taking any and every opportunity to rant about modern standby will never stop being funny.

[@SimpleSaemple]

Can agree that modern standby kind of sucks. Why the heck doesn't the bluetooth turn off? When I pack away my laptop I want my headphones to connect to my phone instead, but keeping the bluetooth enabled will make my headphones remain connected to my tucked away laptop for some reason.

[@j22karu]

I hope he and others won't stop ranting about it until they bring back sleep mode, it was a pretty nasty surprise that my new laptop doesn't support sleep mode anymore, now I have to rely on hibernate which takes much longer to boot and I have to raise the lid every damn time I want to wake it up when I have it attached to external peripherals. Plus hibernate is degrading my ssd faster, since it has to write everything in memory to disk. Thank you very much Microsoft, Intel and AMD for this bs no one asked for.

[@iemozzomei]

Having the fucking registry disable changing every update doesn't make me any happier...

[@shouryaaswal5681]

I think thats on the earphones. My old ones used to stay connected to the laptop but my new ones don't. What I think the difference is that my new ones can connect with multiple devices at once, so when my phone rings they automatically switch to the phkne

[@TheZoenGaming]

I'm 41, and I actually remember the first few Mac generations having a lot of games when I entered Jr. High School. I was so jealous of my buddy who's father had one. It's strange to think that it shifted completely by the time I graduated Jr. High 3 years later.

[@TheZoenGaming]

@@TalesOfWar Oh, I'm aware of all this, I was just commenting that Linus must be really young if he doesn't remember the first couple generations of Macs having the best games. Also, Steve Jobs disliked video games as much as Hiroshi Yamauchi.

[@Mr.Morden]

Apple has developed MetalFX, a competitor to DLSS and the like. They've even made "Fast Resource Loading" the equivalent of DirectStorage. Maybe Apple plans to finally win over some game developers outside the trashy mobile space?

[@TheZoenGaming]

@@Mr.Morden It won't happen so long as DirectX is the preferred API.

[@_PatrickO]

@@TalesOfWar Bill gates is a weirdo, but the xbox was done right and now has reached PC capabilities so now they just merged it all. The new halo has full crossplay between console and pc. More games with ties to microsoft will get this going forward. Xbox and pcs will basically be the same platform.

[@Dudewitbow]

@@Mr.Morden you can't unless you start to throw money at them, else it takes quite an amount of time to do it. Take for example Linux gaming, whose started to rise up in usage a bit due to the Steam Deck, which has a bunch of 3rd party(and Valve) working on a compatibility layer to get most windows games to run on linux. It mostly removes the devs need to actually develop for the OS. Telling devs to work on OSX apis like metal, despite the steam hardware survey reporting that only 2.23% of its users are using OSX, would be a sunken cost situation for most devs unless apple is outright giving devs money to do it in the same way that epic pays devs to make their game exclusive on epic's platform. Devs aren't going to want to do more work unless there's an incentive for it.

[@codecthelios]

I switched over to m2 macbook pro from windows for my laptop (graphic design). It is nice to have a computer that can be trusted to just sleep. Its great to show up to a meeting with everything already running. Open the lid and everything is ready to show off and work on. However I do miss gaming, raytracing in blender and Autodesk Inventor. I add 3rd party software to get the functionality that I am missing.

[@musje83]

Switching platforms is basically just switching downsides. You improve on some points but have to give up on others. It all depends on which points you personally need the most.

[@LuLeBe]

Yeah the standby is incredibly infuriating. How did Apple get this right on my 2011 macbook air, yet Microsoft still fails? And all others as well, for that matter.

[@Thekikoblazko]

similar case here. Although I only bought a mac because I already have my desktop windows PC, and now I wanted to have for the first time in my life a trustable laptop that just works. If it had to be my gaming machine, I would've never got a mac. Although I must say it can run some emulators quite nicely. Another thing I love about it is to charge it in 90 minutes and then leave home without packing the PSU. Over 8 hours of working time on battery at full performance. imo windows gives a delightful experience with desktop computers and a very bad one with laptops.

[@vexnity460]

blender has RT now for pro

[@paaras]

​@@LuLeBethat has a huge battery sir

[@AnxiousSylvie]

Don’t forget mouse acceleration that can’t be disabled without terminal commands / third party apps! (Linear mouse is the perfect third party solution IMO if you’re interested, it also allows disabling of natural scrolling for mice, while maintaining it for trackpads)

[@johnnybegoodgovbebad8426]

Are you insane trying to go against Apples dictation how to use the product you payed your hard earned money for! You paid for the privilige of being stuck in their box of "user experience" pfff you are such a caveman

[@AnxiousSylvie]

@@johnnybegoodgovbebad8426 True, after 10 months of using and not getting used to mouse acceleration I should just concede it's a me-problem. Thank you Apple for trying to help me learn the benefits of inaccurate nonlinear mouse movement!

[@DocFr4nk]

Linear Mouse is a god sent, also sensible side buttons while we are in the topic of mouse usage

[@Thornskade]

When I was studying graphics design our school used Apple computers and we weren't allowed to do any modifications to them, so this is the thing that gave me hell. It's insane to me that this is something that can't just be disabled, what were they thinking?

[@ravenrush7336]

Linear mouse acceleration is good for gaming, but I actually think that a decent amount of mouse acceleration is good for office tasks when navigating cursors thought a large monitor.

[@MarioMastr]

This is probably my favourite apple video in a long time. Giving each gripe their due time, listening to the community on a wider scale, and mentioning some good points too. Just how it should be

[@pyromethious]

Now if only Apple actually listened/cared about any of it

[@EvanBoldt]

The issue with per-application audio becomes an issue during FaceTime calls, where it turns out they could do it the whole time they just don't let you change it. Calls automatically turn down the volume of everything else and too much.

[@falagarius]

Tim cook knows better at what volume your audio should run!

[@mattmers]

I absolutely hate this. It basically makes it impossible to watch something with someone over facetime. iOS has even more audio issues.

[@ElNeroDiablo]

Ugh, them doing that with only Facetimes reminds me of a fricken stupid setting Windows has had since like XP - which by default drops audio of any program other than a voice chat program like Skype, down by 80% relative to it's actual Volume control value (eg: running Firefox at 50% relative to Windows 100% and start a Skype call? Firefox drops to 10% relative to Windows as that's 1/5th of the actual slider for the program). And often even when not using the voice chat program Windows *refuses* to return volume settings back to normal. The *only* way to disable that default setting with all the GUI changes and Setting Menu changes Microsoft has done since Windows 7 - you have to dig out the Classic Control Panel (from the days of Win9x and NT 5.x (2000/XP)) to find the Classic Sound menu and select the "Do Nothing" radio button in the "Communications" tab.

[@xPorkchops007x]

When I watch movies on FaceTime I have to switch to Google Meet

[@Th3_ArCh0n]

@@falagarius exactly

[@Liggliluff]

(5:15) As a Windows user, the worst about this scrolling thing is when software reverses it. "It's the Mac way", yes but I'm on Windows. Adobe actually has this issue with horizontal scrolling. The vertical scrolling is correct, but if you have a mouse you can push to the right to scroll right, Adobe scrolls left. Very annoying.

[@astridlindholm1159]

tbh i like natural scrolling on the trackpad, but come on, i dont want the trackpad settings to mirror my mouse settings, i want to invert it on the trackpad but not on the mouse, is that really that much to ask?

[@Liggliluff]

@@astridlindholm1159 Exactly. There should be separate settings for these two. The software shouldn't even know what the setting is, all the software should do is: positive scroll = move content up and show more of the page further down. Negative scroll is the other way. Which way is positive and negative is determined by your system settings. The size of the scroll value is determined by the system settings too.

[@unknown_codec_404]

Lol Windows

[@vxathos]

@Liggliluff As a longtime mac user, one of the first steps I do on ANY mac with "natural scrolling" enabled, is to head to system preferences and turn it off. The entire concept is just something that apple pushed on their users so scroll direction by default acts the same across macs and ios. Equating this with mac users as a whole is disingenuous, even if most people (infuriatingly) have it turned on by default. Fully agreed that programs should never fuck with / change direction though - just use whatever the OS gives you, and users can change that in their system settings if they want to. And a simple way to explain how scrolling works is that *normally* you control / should control the motion of the rectangular *view* of the content (and scrollbars), and move those up / down / left / right. And apple "natural scrolling" does the opposite, with the effect that the content appears to move / track in the same direction as your fingers, which is of course how scrolling on touch screens tends to work, and the opposite of how this would otherwise work on standard pc desktop / xerox user interfaces. How content moves "left" / "right" depends on your definition of whether you are apparently moving the content itself in the same direction that you're scrolling in, or your view of it. If you don't match this behavior - ie. if the horizontal scrolling behavior w/ 2d scrolling doesn't match the above, given user system settings - of if for that matter ANY of the scrolling behavior doesn't match that of other, standard applications - then this is a UI bug and the developer implemented this incorrectly. Though fwiw adobe software seems to work perfectly fine on macos, so maybe that's a windows issue...

[@angry_hanter6161]

MS Paint in Win11 have the same problem for some reason while in Win10's paint horisontal scroll doesn't work at all

[@bdmax17]

As an audio engineer who uses mac as my main system, not having individual audio output settings for different applications is such a frustrating part of my workflow. Using external tools like VB-Cable and SoundFlower has provided a solution that does work very well, and it allows for complex routing configurations that wouldn't be possible without them, it would be nice to just turn down a Chrome tab a bit :D

[@A.D.G]

Can’t recommend Loopback and SoundSource by Rogue Amoeba enough.

[@nihilistzen6133]

I do audio on a mac. Have you tried soundsource? It's a little pricey (20 or 30 US if I remember) but it gives all the options to control volume by app and even reroute. Not sure about a single chrome tab though... 🥸

[@FrostBitttn]

Volume Master is a pretty good extension

[@ShamanicArts]

I have one application for you which will change your life and make Mac for audio 100x more powerful for audio work than windows ( & Linux kind of … Linux audio is insanely powerful just not very convenient….) and that application is Rogue Amoebas Loopback . Insanely powerful Virtual audio device creation and individual app volume control though the interface is a bit clunky

[@agar322]

@@FrostBitttn This. It also allows to set the volume higher than 100% for that tab. Pretty useful sometimes.

[@Machtyn]

When asked on Twitter, my biggest UI gripe is that when Alt-Tabbing between apps, if one app has two or more windows open, you can't choose which of those windows to bring to the front. This is especially annoying if that particular desired window has a frame blocking it (such as a save & close dialog).

[@Nadia1989]

True! On a good day I can have four browser windows open. I need to go to the windows menu and select the one I need. What a waste of time.

[@JosephF.]

Yeah imo it’s a problem that’s throughout the entire OS (considering apps as the multitasking atom rather than windows). I wish the dock had better support for windows too.

[@oso3557]

Just get the free and open-source software AltTab. Works better than Windows implemtation imo

[@shakesbearebear]

Not perfect, but you can tab to the applicatoin you want, and then use CMD+` to switch between different windows of that application. Still not as good as the windows solution for sure but its passably usable once you learn that.

[@JosephF.]

@@oso3557 I love it, but it definitely doesn’t work better than the windows version IMO. It just doesn’t work with some windows at all (looking at you iOS simulator & Android Emulator), and will only show a menu bar or nothing at all for these applications.

[@krazymeanie]

Can we expect a video like this to be done for Windows and Linux as well? Would be cool to see all the different gripes.

[@razhterize]

that's not even going to be 7 or 8. gonna be 1 hour long video lmao

[@jepoyburner]

the linux one would be a 5 video series. lol

[@somhrsh]

They probably are doing it

[@13Maur]

We not gonna talk about W11 going osx on the sound mixer? Its burried deep in several menues now. This alone made me almost downgrade to 10 again lol. Thankfully i remembered ear trumpet is a thing. Im also a "task bar on the right side" type of guy. You cant do that in W11. sucks.

[@bradenculver7457]

@@jepoyburner they kinda already did that with their switch to Linux challenge

[@yaroslav7328]

As a both Linux and Windows user and from time to time MacOS user I can say that Ubuntu's Gnome implementation had combined all the best GUI features from Windows and MacOS. I am a big fan of Ubuntu. Kudos to them.

[@viacheslavspitsyn2995]

What is in Ubuntu that other Gnome implementations are missing?

[@ajddavid452]

​@@viacheslavspitsyn2995 other then the side panel that you could easily add to any other distro using extensions? nothing

[@annie3606]

Eeeh gnome is not particularily convenient, though luckily on linux we are not stuck with one option and instead everyone can pick what works for what they want. Light users get their gnome, kde, xfce and whatever they are all called, powerusers have custom tiling wms, everyone's happy

[@mad_t]

But new gnome extensions management sucks

[@yaroslav7328]

Back here after my return to Fedora on the third try. Well, I can say that it is way more stable distro than Ubuntu is and I agree that all convenient Ubuntu's features can be achieved by the same extensions that Ubuntu use. And what is more, vanilla GHOME has its own charm. The only extension I added to it are Hide Minimized, Battery Time and Bluetooth Quick Connect. And made Minimize/maximize window title buttons visible)

[@959_MC]

My biggest issue is mouse acceleration, I am not exaggerating in saying that I have spent over 8 hours total trying to disable it. I found temporary success with a trial of a program, but the fact that you have to pay for a 3rd party program to get such a simple feature is insane

[@kzed]

linear mouse is free

[@TypeErrorDubs]

SteelSeries ExactMouse used to work on x86 Macs, haven’t tried it on the new ones.

[@Huraith]

I believe there is a command line to stop it? I have disabled mine with some code copy and paste into the command line tool. But I do know it does sounds a lot more sketchy than using an app to switch it off.

[@seifenspender]

@@TypeErrorDubs It works on new ones, can confirm :) That was my solution as well.

[@seifenspender]

@@kzed Does this have a native ARM version?

[@acsetpoint]

I like how Alex has been mentioning windows modern standby in every video he has been in lately. I agree Microsoft, please make this addition optional!

[@ILoveWomen]

I’m thinking of selling my (relatively) new laptop and going Mac for this reason. Once or twice a month the laptop will fail to come out of the standby mode causing either a BSOD or the laptop to just not turn on when I open the lid (and needs to be power cycled). Causing me to lose my open windows and programs. Also the laptop arbitrarily goes into hibernation, meaning sometimes I can leave the laptop unplugged for two hours and have it lose 30-40% of battery because modern standby drains battery like fuck

[@rfldss89]

@@ILoveWomen yeah, I set my laptop to go into hibernation by default when closing the lid on day one of owning it. The first time i closed it, the fan kept running at full tilt for minutes on end, that's so annoying. You should be able to decide how your pc behaves on standby.

[@Kysen10]

it definitely sucks and ruined my SP4 experience.

[@shirokato_logan]

not sure if this has been fixed with the newer m1 or m2 macbooks, but my old Macbook did have something similar (i believe its called power nap). It drained my battery, made my backpack warm, and wakes my laptop even on standby. Theres an option to turn it off in the settings but it never worked for me. It's why I almost never want to put my macbook on standby. Then again, my current Windows laptop still does it. i guess i can never escape it.

[@babblebam]

I’ve got a macbook instead of a windows laptop, modern standby was probably the most impprtant reason. They should make a dedicated video documenting issues with modern standby and compare it to macbooks.

[@alexlog9070]

I'm surprised how this disrupting and potentially malicious behavior of the Finder didn't get on this list: merging folders. By default, it REPLACES the old folder with the same name as the new one, and the "merge" option (hidden behind option-drag) doesn't pop up consistently and more often doesn't even work. As well as no possibility for cut-paste files, you have to open two folders and drag what you need from one to another.

[@Nimrodion]

It does sorta have cut-paste option - cmd-C and cmd-option-V does the same thing as cut-paste.

[@oldlavygenes]

I've been forcing myself to learn how to do these sorts of things through the terminal because I find the Finder app to be lacking in some key areas. I'm starting to get the hang of it where it's actually quicker for me to run the terminal commands instead of using the GUI.

[@freeone69]

its crazy how nice iOs feels compared to macOs. its like a neglected child.

[@thomgizziz]

@@oldlavygenes keep telling yourself that. it is rarely going to be faster in terminal unless what you need to do is in base folders. You are just trying to convince yourself that it isn't that bad because you have an irrational attachment to an object or a company. You are not your choice in company, stop making excuses for them.

[@oldlavygenes]

@@thomgizziz Holy shit, bro. Why you so mad? I'm using an old Macbook right now because I'm in college and can't afford to buy a new laptop. I'm not "rationalizing" anything or defending Apple, lol. Why you mad, bro? If I had the money, I'd be buying the HP Dev One or a System76 laptop because I really like Pop OS but since I already own a 2015 Macbook that's what I'm going to keep using until I have a job and can upgrade. Sheesh!

[@johnsmith-v9t8o]

What I hate is having to resize the Finder columns EVERY time I open a window. Also, no matter what I try, I just can’t get change the default Finder window size, the official instructions just don’t work for me. Maddening.

[@tobiaslofi]

It used to work when I had my old 2006 MacBook

[@spaghettiiq]

yeah finder resizing itself sometimes is a thing that makes no sense and should be fixed, definitely would appreciate a set launch size option in the finder settings (something like terminal apps have)

[@blottolotto7648]

man. this is so annoying. every single time

[@kevindiaz7584]

The most important lines from the video: "Thinking different can also lead to a stubborn unwillingness to adopt a better method of accomplishing a task seemingly because they're just salty that someone else thought of it first."

[@danielnaron]

Haha lol

[@ryzenforce]

And it's been like that since pre-2000...

[@pirojfmifhghek566]

And if it costs them a license to use whatever function that someone else patented, then they should just pay the damn license so users aren't having a nightmare of an experience. It's not like a dollar of added cost is going to be a problem when Apple's profit margins are so disgustingly large despite doing everything that they can in-house.

[@khalishakhairani4795]

Windows: Do not think different!

[@Hyephen]

Here's another one- try to set 8 bit color on a 10 bit color capable monitor. I was trying to do this to save some bandwidth to increase my refresh rate or resolution. I spent a day trying to accomplish that only to find out they deprecated the ability to set color depth manually back in the early 2010s.

[@silasrogan241]

Yup. Getting my LG C2 to look right took a month before I gave up and settled. Still can't get 120hz and it's random whether it'll set itself to 10-bit or 8-bit, with the HDR option disappearing on its own.

[@erelpc]

so it defaults to 10 bit when you are on a 10 bit display?

[@gamebuster800]

lemme guess, you have to type some garbage in the terminal?

[@jbnelson]

Can you not use a higher bandwidth cable to get both?

[@erelpc]

@@jbnelson the port has to support it. It might be an older monitor with an older port.

[@NicoIsntHere]

Window snapping is one of the things windows gets right. I had to get Rectangle for macOS but it’s not the same and I’m not willing to pay for window snapping. It’s crazy how a feature just becomes routine and how annoying it is to then do without it.

[@coolbugfacts1234]

You’re supposed to arrange and overlap your windows on the Mac, not maximize everything. The desktop UI paradigm is a metaphor. When you work on paper, you don’t use a single piece of paper the size of your desk. You have many pieces of paper and you rearrange them and stack them. It’s hilarious when I see PC users with one or maybe two browser windows on a giant modern display, and waste most of their screen space.

[@nitrorange]

‘Swish’ is great for window arranging and other trackpad enhancements if you need more than the basics included in Rectangle.

[@tobiasnietgen]

@@coolbugfacts1234 In real life, the filing cabinet is next to the desk, so is the trash can and I have several drawers (that are not open at the same time). I don't dump everything on my desk to start working.

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

@@tobiasnietgen okie time to work, dumps everything out

[@ElderlyAnteater]

@@coolbugfacts1234 moronic shill

[@vadimmartynyuk]

Recently switched from windows 10 pc to M1 Max MacBook and I’m surprised how many crucial features macOS is missing

[@nidalspam509]

Same here, it's a shame though. There's still a lot to love about macos despite it missing such important features like per app volume

[@R3AL-AIM]

I just did Windows 11, but used Rainmeter with many mods, MyDock, ported Apple UI textures/cursors,font.... I got most of the simple stuff that people get MacBooks for on a much more powerful device.

[@DomiaAbrWyrda]

Same I switched from Linux to a macbook and I can't understand how this OS counts as "it just works" I had to install so many apps just to get it to functionally work somewhat, it actually took more maintenance than when I was using Arch Linux

[@s.fleming2441]

Rip 🙏

[@xavierpierre1676]

think also about the stuff mac has that windows simply misses i message hand off everything being synced with icloud . you simply want to use a mac as a PC which is not how you use mac. embrace the features mac offers

[@KyleErickson]

As an everyday Mac user - I agree with a lot of these points! I've noticed some weirdness dealing with network drives on macOS as well, but there are a lot of things I love about the OS still. The lack of support for multiple monitors on the base M1/M2 is disappointing, I'm hoping to check out a couple USB hubs that make it possible, but still not ideal. Great video!

[@thomgizziz]

What do you love about the OS that doesn't exist in other OSs? Most of this I love the OS isn't you actually loving it but some irrational attachment because you feel it makes you special because you stand out or some other BS. Get a grip on reality. OSs either let you do what you want or they don't and anything that is getting in the way of you doing what you want is a bad thing and not a quirky thing that you should love.

[@KyleErickson]

@@thomgizziz you need to find a better hobby than trying to pick fights with people about operating systems lol it’s not that serious, chill

[@zwenkwiel816]

Lol not ideal? A basic functionality ever laptop has had for decades now should be a deal breaker to any sane person XD like I could multi monitor my shitty $ 400 HP laptop from 12 years ago XD

[@pieterrossouw8596]

Tech tribalism is stupid, use what you like. I like MacOS as it's the best laptop experience, I like Windows as it gives me the best gaming experience and I like Linux (Proxmox) for my homelab since it's an amazing hypervisor experience. None of them needs to "win", just use them for what they are great at.

[@inadover]

@@thomgizziz my brother in christ, you’re essentially yelling at someone because you don’t like the OS they like. I think you should get a grip on reality and touch some grass. You really need it.

[@coppapasta9235]

I loved the variety of presenters in this episode. So nice to see everyone!

[@2hief]

SAMEEEE

[@i00Productions]

7:20 .. actually the release of XP in 2001 also had the sound mixer that allowed you to control application volume independently!

[@AfonsoBucco]

i am not sure if it exist for each app separated, but for sure something like sounds of system, sound of programs, sound of CD, etc I remember this also in Windows 98, actually.

[@i00Productions]

@@AfonsoBucco Yep it did exist for each app.. you may have had to open the sound mixer in the start menu to access it through

[@AfonsoBucco]

@@i00Productions what a shame. I never discovered that.

[@i00Productions]

@@AfonsoBucco I stand corrected.. it was for each input / output not each application

[@goglea]

Removed on Windows 11. I had to install a 3rd party app to get it back

[@mina_en_suiza]

That's what I love about the KDE desktop: Although you might feel occasionally overwhelmed by the options, I can make it look and behave like I want it to. Not to mention that even a 12-15 years old computer can still have a nice looking and snappily behaving desktop. If you value sustainability in technology, that's a great feature.

[@peterbreis5407]

How is modifying macOS with some haxies in minutes worse than spending days researching and modifying a Linux distro? How do I get KDE to give me a universal consistent menu with all the usual items in exactly the same place in all Apps so I don't have to hunt for them, just "the way I want it to"? Where do I get consistent legible Help files that aren't dated, dead, incoherent, possibly non-existent links to unfinished documentation 'somewhere'? In fact how do you get any Linux Distro to just work out of the box with 80+ actually useful and well designed Apps?

[@spaghettiiq]

​@@peterbreis5407 kde plasma has a global menu plasmoid ("widget") you can put into anywhere in a taskbar / desktop, you can literally make macos' menubar in kde plasma completely, only without the in built macos help docs

[@spaghettiiq]

@@peterbreis5407 you get consistent legible help files on the arch wiki, otherwise good luck

[@peterbreis5407]

@@spaghettiiq ...and boy do you need good luck... ...and unlikely to get it. btw What Linux users think is legible, let alone well written, is on another planet.

[@peterbreis5407]

@@spaghettiiq No you can't. The macOS Menu bar is not just decoration at the top of the screen. It has consistent content and purpose. Wearing your underpants on the outside does not make you Superman.

[@NocturneSonate]

I daily drive a mac and i'm a windows power user. This video is very accurate on the gripes we mac users deal with on a daily basis. It makes me wonder if MacOS developers actually use MacOS

[@JosephF.]

I often wonder if the Xcode developers have ever touched Xcode in their lives, too. Plus I feel like over time, macOS releases have been getting worse in terms of stability, and they still force you to install the most recent version no matter what to be able to develop or even deploy to the newest version of iOS, which is really rough.

[@JosephF.]

@@GeneralKenobi69420 but there’s just no way any developer or development team would be okay with using Xcode as it currently exists: it’s super unstable, the project system is a nightmare to use, and some features (like swift package manager) work so poorly they’re more likely to get in a developers way than help at all. Syntax highlighting often just breaks, and it always takes like 4 hours to install updates!! Like if they just use Xcode and they don’t have some kind of modified better internal version I feel so sorry for them (and I’m so confused how it’s possible for Xcode to be so bad).

[@Micromation]

Average MacOS user is right now having meltdown over Elon kidnapping their precious blue bird 🐦 same kind of people who write articles how they've just replaced their computers with iPads because you know, they don't do any real work 😂👌

[@testiermal9445]

IPhone devs are no choice. They must develop on macOS which sucks

[@Notoriousjunior374]

@@GeneralKenobi69420 FALSE. Swift is supported on Windows.

[@disekjoumoer]

I used to be a rabid mac fan. Then I started using a hand me down Thinkpad X1 about 7 years ago, just before Windows 10 appeared. Windows got exponentially better after Steve Ballmer left. They actually do listen to users on the Windows Insider feedback channel. These days, while I still think Macs are great and much, much simpler than Windows in daily use, I just like the sheer amount of flexibility in Windows, especially so since WSL was released.

[@ajspice]

I agree! All of my PC's still work. My Mac's are all dead.

[@quinndepatten4442]

Why do you think macs are easier to use? I'm not a Mac user myself, I'm just curious.

[@alexatkin]

​@@quinndepatten4442 In my experience its down to forcing you to do things their way. If you only ever use Mac and want your hand held for everything, its probably is easier. But if you've spent any time using Windows or Linux, its an absolute chore as really simple things are often hidden behind keyboard shortcuts you need to somehow already know about. Want to file things how YOU want? No, MacOS wants you to index everything by meta data. Use a NAS? You're so out of luck as you can't search files on there unless its indexed, which I do not want to waste space or CPU resources on when I primarily use Linux and Windows.

[@ajspice]

@@quinndepatten4442 Because they are very Orwellien in design. Everything pretty much exactly the same all the time for everyone. Nothing too fancy, and the fancy stuff pretty much does everything for you. It's like the mother bird of computers. To me, I see Apple products being for people who aren't great with computers because they hold your hand.

[@zachariah380]

WSL is magic. Now if they'd fix the taskbar in windows 11 and stop using the OS as an involuntary ad platform, I might upgrade from windows 10!😂

[@ninjapenguinSA]

Weirdest Mac limitation I have found is that you cant plug in 2 of the exact same USB devices into the system. I had 2 Blue Yeti's plugged in to try and help my friend record a podcast. But Mac OS can only see the first one plugged in. Blue will actually reconfigure your mic if you send it to them to appear as a different device ID. On Windows, it just works and assigns them different ID's

[@craigparkeraus]

Could you not create an aggregated device in the midi app?

[@zefalify]

I use both and it's nice to see these issues being mentioned. You can't mention flaws with Macs in other spaces as people always defend them blindly. Macs have so many issues and "don't just work" Worst issue for me is no confirmation on changing display settings! I changed my MBP to 100Hz on my external monitor which the MBP couldn't handle - no output (monitor, cable and dock can do this as another laptop handles it fine)... Anyway, you can't change it back to settings that work as changing display setting in MacOS is final... and the display settings for given monitor ONLY appear on given monitor. The ONLY way to fix was to VNC (screen share) to change the settings back. Too way too long to t-shoot that one! Even apple support failed to fix it and only offered OS wipe as solution. Another crappy issue is not being able disable sound devices AT ALL. Also you can't output audio to multiple Bluetooth devices. Apple have so many issues to fix.

[@terrybusk4747]

This vide was cathartic for me. I recently switched my work laptop to a macbook pro purely for hardware reasons and the frustrations I've faced with all of (and many more) issues outlined in this video have made it a challenging transition.

[@seawalkarrg]

Me too. Switched to a MacBook Pro 14. I spent many hours with third party tools and scripts trying to bring some basic features missing. Ultimately I sold it after two months. Remote Desktop into work PC with Citrix was not a great experience. I was sad to see it go as it was a beautiful piece of hardware and super fast. Surprised how far Windows 11 has come

[@Micromation]

Hardware reasons? A goddamn MacBook? WHAT WAS GOING ON IN YOUR HEAD?

[@stevenson1142]

@@Micromation apple silicon u bozo

[@Micromation]

@@stevenson1142 sounds like a downside no matter which way you slice it, bro

[@stevenson1142]

@@Micromation cope

[@NFMorley]

Here's another one - poor support for different file systems. They don't support basic things like reading from ext4 (used by many common Linux devices and hence network devices too), plus have their own strange implementations of many network share formats. What's worse is Apple's now default APFS doesn't play nice with partitioning either, but that's a whole other thing.

[@salaciouscreations4323]

Exfat works fine on them all. I only use exfat on usb sticks or it's a nitemare as that's the only one I found that works on everything And samba doesn't care what the file system is.

[@ZedDevStuff]

Is that why android mtp doesn't work natively on MacOS? (Need to install Android File Transfer or use ADB)

[@iaina3251]

@@NicolaiWeitkemper Windows Subsystem for linux shows that it can and does play really well with ext4 partitions now

[@newfontherock]

Actually APFS is really good for doing dual booting of various Mac operating systems, if they are supported that is. All you have to do to remove an OS is nondestructively delete the partition as it is a virtual one, what they call a volume. It’s really all on one drive but they virtualize the partitions so there’s no resizing.

[@singulosta]

I can highly recommend macFUSE, be warned it's painful to set it up, but now I can read and write ext4, ntfs and even mount sshfs with no problem. I wish that would work by default though.

[@V1tol]

Two big things I am missing in macOS - Vulkan and developer friendliness. First one is obvious - no support for crossplatform API makes Apples very unfriendly gaming machine. MoltenVK still struggles to provide a Vulkan layer on top of Metal due to Metal's limitation. Second one is not about developers who already own a Mac, but about those who don't. For example, you wrote some app that can be easily made crossplatform. Building Windows exe on Linux or Linux binary on Windows is solvable quite easily. Building an macOS executable without a Mac is almost impossible. You are either forced to use VMs or some Docker images violating license, or register some Github account (and pay for it if your code should be private) to utilize their machine fleet.

[@mystrdat]

This is why we have "Mac People" in our dev studio, if something is broken on a Mac you just pass it to the Mac People as you have no chance of fixing it without becoming Mac People yourself.

[@Adrian-jn9ov]

Yeah apple hates developers. Why do I have to use a mac for programming for you? Why does the iOS VM only run on mac? Android just gives you the tools if you want to use them with whatever you like Why are you forced to use their IDE? Google doesn't care if you use android studio Why Metal? Vulkan is the standard (funny that apple says it want to become a gaming platform ... without vulkan) Why do you have to pay 100 bucks every year to be on the App Store? On android it's a 40 dollar fee once I know most of these can be answered with: it makes them more money and pretty much everything else, because they are stubborn A lot of developers already use your products just because they want to. Apple doesn't even have to force them onto it. Homebrew is great and macOS is a good balance between Linux (command line, package manager, etc.) and Windows (Office, Adobe, etc.). Their stupid garbage complicates pipelines and development in general.

[@crestofhonor2349]

MacOS not having Vulkan support has really bothered me. Apple's hostility to open standards the rest of the gaming world uses really hurts their chances of becoming big in gaming and I've seen too many Mac people deny that. Apple has a huge uphill battle they'll have to fight if they want to do well in gaming including supporting open standards like Vulkan

[@BeierFilms]

I switched to a MacBook Pro 14" early this year after almost two decades of avoiding Apple products. My reason was mainly that no Windows manufacturers were offering this level of power in a 14 inch form factor AND the MBP actually had a greater port selection than the Windows competition (ironic since port selection was the first thing that got me to avoid Mac laptops). Since buying it, I find that I love the hardware yet and frequently driven nuts but Mac OS. File management (read: Finder) is the worst offender. I've lost count of all the ways it is less intuitive than Windows Explorer and it continues to be the bane of my existence.

[@Leonhart_93]

I don't know about the "power" part, sounds like you didn't look much. Because it feels like there is infinite variation and price tiers when it comes to windows laptops. Like insane core counts CPU, 32gb RAM and 4th gen RTX with 4k displays? Sure, as long as you have the money. But the even crazier part to me is that how even inferior spec mac laptops cost like a kidney to buy. My current laptop is singificantly cheaper than the cheapest macbook but has like twice the power (not even counting the rtx gpu lol).

[@zach.0]

And it was better when the finder windows had the customizable buttons at the top. Now they prioritized the...name of the folder for some reason, and shoved all the buttons to the right where they are hidden in an expandable menu unless your window is stretched super long.

[@weebeans1112]

@@Leonhart_93 It's not about the mere hardware. The M1/M2 Macbooks have far better battery life, audio speakers, display and build quality than your average Windows laptop of the same or lower price. I have used both an M1 Macbook and a Windows laptop with an RTX and Ryzen. The difference between the two is that the Macbook runs at the same prowess regardless of it being plugged in or out. The RTX laptop runs like shit on a battery. Which is the main point of a laptop. I honestly think if one just wants a laptop as a daily driver the Macbook is miles ahead. Unless you need to game and/or software that Mac does not support.

[@jubies6286]

@@weebeans1112 You might consider looking into Samsung's laptops. They're not top spec but like a Macbook Pro they're extremely well balanced and have great battery life. Also great for artists, since the built-in wacom digitizer essentially turns their 2-in-1s into cintiqs. My only issue is that the newer models with a dedicated GPU lack the digitizer for some inscrutable reason.

[@Leonhart_93]

@@weebeans1112 Nah, I don't want it for web browsing. the Macbook doesn't even have a fraction of the power that I want. I am the type that wants 120 FPS on external displays at preferably at least 2k resolution. Current generation games. How TF am I supposed to get that on a mac when they barely have a GPU? Battery is irrelevant for this. The worst part is that they demand ludicrous prices anyway, no thanks.

[@jelkk0349]

Honestly, this was a great video. There are so many little things in both MacOS & Windows that are super annoying. Lowkey wish someone made a forum post or table that (1) collated all these little issues in the hopes they would get some attention & fixed and (2) where possible detail/provide the quick solution. Couple of examples: MacOS: Lack of wind snapping - Magnet/3rd party app (3rd MacBook before I found out this was a thing, years of unnecessary struggle) Windows: Lack of inbuilt screen brightness control - Twingle tray/3rd party app (spent four years using the little buttons on each monitor to change the brightness, 2-3x a day, as I thought it was a hardware thing that was impossible to change via software).

[@jeandrebadenhorst]

Incredible video! Highlights annoyances without being condescending, talks about positive things and compares to the other major OS's for users to make an informed decision. As Linus said in the conclusion, there is and will probably be no perfect OS. Each has its up and down sides, and you just have to decide which annoyances you want to work around at the end of the day and which suits your career or preferences the best.

[@eddu4361]

Well they could have started off with stating for 99% of the mac os users the items mentioned are not relevant. Less time wasted.

[@wta1518]

@@eddu4361 That wouldn't be true though. While some of them only affect a small minority, things like window snapping affect a lot of people, enough that there are multiple paid apps to fix the issues.

[@skejeton]

these mac annoyances are not inherent, if they want a great product they need to fix them

[@thiccbaron]

@@wta1518 they won't add all those things many use 3party apps for. That's just another way of apple earning money. That said Rectangle and raycast are both free and made ios joyful again

[@natbarmore]

@@wta1518 I’d love to see some data on that [that most macOS users are negatively impacted by the lack of window-snapping]. Most of my extended family and most of my friends are Mac users. Most of the people I’ve worked with for decades have been Mac users by choice, MSWindows users at work when they have to. I’ve known exactly 1 person who has installed some sort of window-snapping or similar software on their Macs. Maybe some of the rest are annoyed by the lack, but not enough to look for (or to pay for) software to fix it. But I’ve never IRL heard anyone complain about the lack, and mostly the complaints I see online are from people who use multiple OSes. Now, this _could_ be explained by the folks who only use macOS not even realizing there’s a better way that they’re missing out on. And for some people, that’s undoubtedly what’s going on. But I have another hypothesis: the sorts of window management features that mswindows provides aren’t particularly awesome for most users; they’re better than nothing, and a necessary stop-gap because window management is otherwise so poor. macOS provides better window manipulation tools, so you don’t _need_ snapping and auto-quartering just to manage your windows, for most users. When I’m using Windows 10, I find window snapping and keyboard manipulation of windows (size, placement) important, and use it pretty regularly. But I also find that it gets in the way almost as frequently-I’ve finally trained myself to drag windows in such a way as to usually avoid snapping or resizing when I don’t intend to. And the sorts of things that I use those features for are things that I rarely find myself wishing I could do when using my Macs. (And it’s not hardware: both my work and home computers are dual-24” displays running at 1080p (well, the home displays are 1920x1200, but the extra hundred vertical pixels aren’t something I ever notice in terms of window management. And while my work laptop’s display is slightly larger than my MacBook Air, it’s not enough that I’m treating it differently, like more often putting windows side-by-side or similar.) Frex, I’ll snap a couple windows side-by-side on Windows 10, because if I’m doing something involving just those 2, but I have a bunch of other windows open, that’s more reliable for flipping back and forth between them. If I’m using Ctrl+Tab, it’s too easy for another window to decide to grab focus and mess up my flow. Using the mouse is fiddly because Windows 10 allows click-through, so I have to be really careful where I click on a window to focus it, or I might focus it and do something at the same time. Doing the exact same task, maybe even with the same applications, on macOS, I’ll almost never bother trying to tile them exactly. Only if I need to see the entirety of both windows-including the border chrome and such-is it valuable to me. I’ll just flip back and forth with ⌘-Tab or ⌘-` or use the mouse/trackpad to switch windows (whichever better fits the rest of my workflow). And since I can move and resize a background window without first making it a foreground window, even if I need to do that it’s often still quick and easy. As another example, the thing that made me think about this and come back to this discussion was having Windows 10 decide to put all my windows on one display while I was at lunch just now. If I were using macOS, the solution would be quick and painless: open Mission Control, grab all the windows for an app, move them to the other monitor. Only if I wanted windows for a single app spread across multiple displays _and_ I had many windows open for that app would it be any kind of problem. But on Windows 10, I instead had to one-by-one select each window, and then either Win+Shift+➡️ or drag each one to the other window. _Really_ tedious with 3 dozen or more Outlook windows. Similarly: minimize all the windows for an application, then go do something else, and now want to unminimize them all? One-by-one is the only option-the keyboard shortcuts only work if the last thing you did was minimize them. But on macOS I can hide and unhide all windows for an app at once, if I want. These and other differences mean that I find myself consciously working to keep down the number of open windows on MSWindows, because once you get past a dozen, maybe 2 dozen, just navigating between them becomes annoying. I feel no such productivity impact to having dozens and dozens of open windows on macOS, and can still quickly and easily navigate to exactly the window I need. And the things that I find myself using window snapping for on Windows 10 mostly don’t even come up on macOS-I’m using snapping because there isn’t a better/easier way to get my work done, not because “having 2 windows occupy exactly half the screen” or “have multiple windows exactly fill the screen with no overlap and no gaps” provide any inherent value. IME, snapping & tiling are _one way_ to work efficiently with multiple windows, and Windows 10 doesn’t really provide any others. But there are other ways to make working with multiple windows efficient, and macOS provides a couple of them that Windows 10/11 don’t, so the lack of snapping just doesn’t matter. And circling back to my hypothesis: people who are used to MSWindows are used to awkward window management and a poor UX when windows overlap (rather than tiling), so they’ve come to rely heavily on snapping. They’re not used to manually handling lots of windows, because it’s really inefficient on MSWindows, so when they use macOS they come into it already used to _needing_ to snap windows all the time just to keep everything efficient, and either don’t know about the other window management tools macOS provides, or don’t like them because it’s not rhe way they’re used to working. And that’s why I mostly see dual-OS users complaining about the lack of snapping on macOS, and Mac-only users mostly not complaining about window management (let alone specifically asking for window-snapping or -tiling). Emphasis on “mostly” in both of those statements.

[@Gokulbalram]

I feel like you guys should really do a similar video for Windows and address various issues, especially issues such as Modern Standby and the mess that has caused

[@thomgizziz]

You are here talking about it right now... what are the issues?

[@Gordoxgrey]

What is modern standby? And what's the issue with it?

[@Gokulbalram]

@@thomgizziz 1. Modern Standby 2. Automatic Updates and how they cause driver incompatibilities by updating drivers 3. The state of color management, I have no clue how this thing works 4. Subpixel rendering These are just a few to start off with

[@Gokulbalram]

@@Gordoxgrey From what I've understood, it is a new implementation of sleep which *should* sip very little power, while keeping the CPU on, the laptop also stays connected to wireless networks while it's sleeping. The problem here is that it is usually not implemented well, and it sips a lot more power, just ploughing through battery and at times even waking up for updates, causing higher CPU usage, and more heat, and all of this in an enclosed backpack. So in order to prevent further power usage, the laptop decides to hibernate after a certain threshold, but that means you have turn it back on every time you open it. For reference, my 5 year old laptop had no issues just waking up from sleep after being closed for however long, without any gigantic battery drain

[@InspektorDogge]

@@thomgizziz I think there are a number of things that could be made better with File Explorer. Finder’s column view is really nice for digging around in folders, and the gallery view is excellent for browsing through photos and videos.

[@mr.panjandrum4757]

It would be great for you do to a followup that examines MacOS changes since the Snow Leopard era in particular. Not just the fundamental functionality, but the UI/UX degradation, the increased difficulty of performing basic tasks, the tremendous backslides in enterprise/edu sectors with the end of Server and support for that feature set. I work in the EDU IT sector, largely with Apple products, and I can't point to much since Snow Leopard that's been a benefit to us, while being able to point to hundreds of things that have made the Apple experience worse or more difficult. Key among these are the complete borking of the once almost unassailable user interfaces on both Macs and iThings. They were clear, concise, easily visible, consistent. Now they are flat, low-contrast, grey, inconsistent and even directly detrimental to usability and productivity. We used to plop down first graders and they would just figure it out. Now we have to have specific special training sessions to teach the kids how the use the computers (even the older kids if they are new to the district.) If we were not so deeply intrenched in the Apple we would have bailed years ago. Only upside is that we get about ten years of service out of the Macs. That's, obviously, a huge positive.

[@richfiles]

I can't agree with this sentiment enough. It's genuinely hard to compile such a daunting list too, as there has been a decline in UI/UX in the manner of a death by a thousand cuts. For me, one of the big changes, was the loss of screen specific full screen. I used to be able to make something full screen, and I could continue doing other tasks on other monitors. Now I'm supposed to make each monitor a separate "space" if I want to do that, but now I have all these redundant UI elements, and it's just an _UNPLEASANT_ experience. It's made me avoid activating entire features, and cut into productivity, and reduced the quality of my experience overall. _I hate it!_ I genuinely enjoyed the old "candy" interface of old, but I get it... Times change, whatever... Fine... GIVE PEOPLE CHOICE... We used to have user selectable UI appearances in Mac OS 8 and I think 9. Mac OS 10 has had more UI changes than I think the stock System 6 though 9 UI have collectively experienced! I hate where the UI design has gone. I feel like I'd have to go back to some of those old systems to even remember what I've lost, as Apple seems intent to slowly break my expectations and force me down a path I don't wanna follow. I think Mountain Lion was the last time I felt like Mac OS got an upgrade as opposed to a downgrade when number go up. That doesn't even mention the loss of legacy software that comes from dropping 32-bit app support. There is ZERO reason that a 32-bit application can't be run on a 64-bit OS. Sandbox it if you must. Whatever. Screw Apple for taking away legacy apps, classic games, old but useful utilities... Most of these from long gone companies... There's no replacement for that. I would literally consider paying money for 64-bit Mac app that would act as a shell to launch 32-bit Mac apps.

[@StoriesWithGR]

UI / UX teacher here. Always had a feeling the skeumorphic interface was easier to use. Could you point to some specific interfaces (even just icons) that's hindering smooth interactions which I can research & demo for my class?

[@TheDanielLivingston]

@@StoriesWithGR The sidebar is a UI and UX issue for me. It's neither fast to open/close nor intuitive at hinting what the sidebar contains when it's closed.

[@StoriesWithGR]

@@TheDanielLivingston Thanks ton! That's a great point. Would request you to please fill in more such examples whenever you think of them which I can share with my students :)

[@shadow.banned]

It just seems like Apple's design team don't actually use these machines and think ordinary people aren't "power users".

[@samk2407]

A really small quality of life thing in windows that I like is when you have multiple windows snapped to full screen you can click on the doc icons to swap between them. This doesn't work in a sensible way in mac os and just makes multitasking harder for no reason.

[@surferdude4487]

The other thing you can do is use Alt+Tab to switch between active apps

[@jbnelson]

I just use separate spaces, personally

[@mcslender2965]

On Windows 11 it actually group snapped windows into single group that you can switch to.

[@samk2407]

@@surferdude4487 that's fair, I just do it differently lol. I have both a windows laptop and mac laptop rn (m1 pro mac for video editing, convertible windows for school note taking and essays) so I find it annoying to try to use different muscle memory for each constantly.

[@bbeni24]

@@samk2407 you can actually ALT Tab (windows) and command tab on (MACOS)

[@JackStavris]

I used a little utility called Scroll Reverser on my old Intel MacBook Pro to give myself the ability to use standard scrolling on a mouse and keep natrual scrolling on the trackpad. It seemed to work very well and I hope it's available on Apple Silicon.

[@metatense1629]

works on m1, i use it too👍

[@trimpeachu]

It works, but I find it not working properly all the time. Sucks that Apple goes such lenghts to just fuck with you if you don't have everything from Apple. You have two sepearate buttons and you link them up? WHY Apple?

[@RealGrouchy]

I always get annoyed by the term 'natural scrolling' whenever I turn it off on a new system. Like, it feels natural to me, so why are you (Apple) calling me unnatural?

[@dybefapi8694]

Thanks for sharing!

[@woeky]

Why keep "natural" scrolling on the trackpad? It's not a touch screen where you push the content in a certain direction. It's still a scrolling device controlling the scrollbar on the screen, which is going down, not up.

[@DavidBrown-xn2pg]

As a Mac user, than you. I hope this gets some traction. I especially agree with Jonathan Horst about the inability to decouple scrolling direction between trackpad and mouse.

[@RHPierre]

I agree. I use my mac on the daily, when im on the move, I dont use a mouse and when im home I use my mouse. It really triggers me because every time I have to navigate through the settings to uncheck and check the natural scrolling

[@playerguy7]

Me too. I use "Unnaturalscrollwheels" and "sanesidebuttons". They fix basically everything wrong with mice in MacOS. Even options tp disable Mouse acceleration and you can use any mouse properly

[@crazymunky8624]

@@playerguy7 Can confirm UnnaturalScrollWheels (from ther0n on github) solves the trackpad/mouse issue wonderfully.

[@markuswong]

I bought a new M1 MacBook as a secondary PC this year with my ThinkPad X1 Extreme as my current daily driver. I last daily drove a Mac in 2010, and wanted to see what I was missing in the past decade. I ended up returning the M1 because the quality of the experience wasn't what I expected from Apple. In 2010 Apple was clearly the more innovative and fine tuned operating system. I left that experience feeling that Apple has been fairly stagnant the past decade. I do wish to see them return to form on the software front. Apple is certainly very innovative with hardware. I hope this video and comments like this become a wake up call for their software division so that they build a polished software experience.

[@trojan-david]

Tbh you’re right. I have a Mac m1 for the past few months and I simply just don’t like it. No matter how much I try windows is just better

[@Syuvinya]

"Apple is certainly very innovative with hardware" Funny you said that because 3 years ago people would have said "Apple has certainly polished out their software but they need to work on their hardware"

[@filipruml]

@@Syuvinya Because they used crappy CPUs by intel and by that point pretty old AMD GPUs. M1 changed a lot and even got me excited to try it even though I've never had a Mac.

[@JhanOjan]

i've been using my mbp from 2017 until now. starting from high sierra to ventura, as far as i can tell, there's no significance in between that updates, apart from 32-bit application support dropped. most of them are just redesigning icons, and smoothing user experience. in other hands, windows 11 shockingly offers more innovative updates from it's initial release until version 22h2. it's still named windows 11 but with much much better experiences and features

[@johnsmith-v9t8o]

Time Machine is one of the only things that’s keeping me on Macs. It’s so essential to me.

[@DJofSparta]

I'm a Windows user and use a Macbook for work and you definitely highlighted some of the the problems I've seen.

[@schoonerthedog]

Have your job buy Magnet, absolutely worth every cent!

[@vasorotto19]

@@schoonerthedog I use rectangle, free and amazing

[@ko-Daegu]

@@schoonerthedog problem with buying for me is kinda 10% money but 90% closed source I Leo to keep 3rd party closed source solutions to a min Hence why I got to open source alternatives not just free ones Even if I have to compile from source from the git repo But that’s not an option for everyone

[@CzajekTutorialowiec]

Did you know, Microsoft has patents for "Create new file" in a context menu and "snap window to screen edge"? This *might* be the real reason why it's not in macOS.

[@enriqueDFTL]

😳

[@akzarma]

can you provide some sources of these patents?

[@CzajekTutorialowiec]

@@akzarma unfortunately, all my links and comments are blocked by KZbin

[@akzarma]

ah, where did you find them though?

[@CzajekTutorialowiec]

@@akzarma literally every keyword I try is blocked. It's "Method and system for efficiently creating a new file associated with an application program"

[@_STRYK3R]

Very cool to include more LMG staff in the videos :)

[@UncleJessy]

Having to manually close every macOS notification is horrible. No idea why they removed the close all option

[@estycki]

That’s the thing I miss the most from windows, is the edge snap… Im glad someone told me about Rectangle, it’s pretty great. Second thing I miss is setting the volume per application :(

[@handenbramilton]

BetterTouchTool also has edge snap, in addition to also letting you fully customize your magic mouse or trackpad gestures (such as gestures for window snapping).

[@johnjonas5118]

For the audio I ended up purchasing SoundSource by Rogue amoeba. It is quite expensive (just checked it is at $40) but I missed audio controls too much.

[@benbork9835]

„Sound Control“ is a great third party mixer application that lives in the menu bar, very similar to windows volume mixer

[@Muhluri]

Rectangle is truly a lifesaver

[@mcslender2965]

Windows snapping alone is the reason I'm still with Windows. That and the fact that it won't randomly block permission of any legacy apps I need and force me to enable the permission and restart the whole thing.

[@velgus]

Windows 11 22H2 has an even nicer newer feature for snapping (the "snap bar"), where just below the top of the screen when dragging a Window (low enough so you can still drag to top to fullscreen), there is a new interface you can drag to allowing snapping to variety of configurations, including 2/3rd, 1/3rd, and 1/4th screen snaps.

[@adlannizar60]

Dude i heckin love windows 11. So clean 🔥

[@adlannizar60]

@hugo anybody asked? modCheck

[@wta1518]

@hugo What? The second menu is only for the options that you rarely ever need to use, and I can eject USB devices with task manager open.

[@JARKOV33]

@hugo are you whining for making one click more than before?

[@kanedaku]

@@wta1518 Question: Can you edit that second menu? When I had the developer you couldn't, and I cant remember what it was but I was constantly using the second menu. I haven't upgraded partly because of this (and partly because my 2x 2015 Toshiba laptops aren't TPM😁🤣)

[@Ralesk]

2:52 totally didn't expect a silent Guild Wars 2 plug :D

[@Clavichordist]

I supported and used many systems and operating systems over the years and used various flavors of SUN OS, Ultrix, VMS, Windows, Linux, Solaris, and many more. From a support standpoint, I found working with Apple's OS flavors was like working with my hands behind my back and expected to remove a screw from the back of the computer. The OSs hide some of the more important tools and have some of the most unintuitive error messages that out do anything that IBM ever came up with. "An error occurred of a type unknown" is definitely a helpful error message!

[@Lucifer-pn2nd]

Oh the irony ,here 😭😭😭😭

[@kaischmidt730]

And sometimes you just get that low pitched “beep” that tells you that something, somewhere has just gone wrong.

[@Clavichordist]

@@kaischmidt730 Yup, that's another helpful thing. I actually forgot about that until you mentioned it.

[@icecreamjunkie6790]

@@Lucifer-pn2nd???

[@icecreamjunkie6790]

Agreed. Although I will say unfortunately Windows is following in Apple’s footsteps when it comes to generic, unhelpful “user-friendly” error messages. “Something went wrong?” That doesn’t help me. I’d much rather see “An illegal fatal exception occurred and the process was terminated. Error code:” because then I know what to search. I work in IT and I can’t stand Microsoft’s shift toward unhelpful error messages because it makes issues hard to diagnose. If I’m helping a user who gets an error when trying to sign into Teams and I Google it, I see several threads with entirely different solutions and no way to know what to try first. Give me a damn code Microsoft! But as for the rest of your points, I 100% agree.

[@stimpy5067]

Another free option for window management is Amethyst. It is a must have for ultra wide monitors, however it is a bit power user centric as it requires memorizing a handful of hotkey combos to use it. However once you do, it is outstanding!

[@dybefapi8694]

Thanks for sharing!

[@MasterGeekMX]

One little advantage Linux (and the open source/libre software community) has over this kind of issues: we don't need to wait for the "corporate overlords" to hear the complaint and hope they will act upon. We can fix things by ourselves and participate in the process of getting a better experience.

[@rxpt0rs]

Waiting for the equivalent Windows video that will eventually be made now

[@srilemobitelsrile8809]

Also Linux video

[@l3gacyb3ta21]

@@srilemobitelsrile8809 hah, you'd need like 20 different ones for linux

[@jonibeYT]

Windows only has one problem which is windows

[@seantaft3853]

@@srilemobitelsrile8809 assuming Linus can get Linux to work for it. It's a meme, like Colton being fired, with how much Linux *will* fail in the hands of LS.

[@marioivar2788]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/roLZoWh-r75srsU

[@pauljmorton]

My gripes are the window snapping that the video started with, and one that this video doesn't contain: multi-window programs (such as multiple chrome windows) are a single item in the Mac version of the alt+tab box. So, alt+tabbing to that browser opens up every window of the browser at once, even when I actually want to open a specific one of them and keep the previously focused window still in view.

[@iforce2d]

Yeah trying to alt+tab between terminal windows drives me insane. They are top level windows in every other way, there is no consistency.

[@RealGrouchy]

When I first started using Macs in the late '00s, I found keyboard navigation/text selection to be really inconsistent across apps. Everywhere in Windows, home takes you to the start of the line, end to the end of the line, ctrl+shift+right selects the next word, etc. Even after daily driving it at work since then, I often have to shop around to find the right key combo to move back a word or paragraph. (Keyboard shortcuts OTOH are way easier to customize and accented characters are much easier to type)

[@ShallWeClimb]

There is a solution for this, but it involves some system tinkering . Not difficult one, but it's comparable to windows RegEx. - Search Remap "Home" and "End" to beginning and end of line in apple Stack exchange.

[@julian061795]

Do you spend much time in Unix environments? I found ctrl-a, ctrl-e, option-left_arrow, option-right_arrow, etc. intuitive after spending time on Linux.

[@blaynestaleypro]

if you think windows is a better experience then macOS overall then please self administer natural selection

[@ShallWeClimb]

@@blaynestaleypro windows 10 certainly is, yes. A much more reasonable experience for half the price, with a far better feature set. The only reason I use mac's is due to them locking the iOS development to MacOS only. Otherwise I would prefer Windows for personal use and Linux (or WSL2) for professional.

[@santmun]

This is my biggest issue with macOs, I daily drive one and it still drives me crazy every day, especially when you consider it gets even more inconsistent when you use an external keyboard

[@demize95]

One of my biggest gripes since picking up an M1 Pro MacBook has been that double-tap drag is implemented solely as an accessibility feature, and requires drag lock. I still use a Windows laptop for work, and I’m so used to double-tap drag from Windows laptops that it’s just instinct to use… but I have to leave it disabled on my MacBook. If I turn it on, then I’ll drag something and then try to move the cursor again, but I’ll keep dragging it-because the mandatory drag lock means you have to wait a couple seconds. It’s infuriating, and I don’t get why they can’t just separate the features, or have an adjustable drag lock period.

[@crosswick]

Have you heard of our lord and saviour Three Finger Drag?

[@CarlisleFox]

This has annoyed me for a decade

[@franciscoxc]

In macOS you just push-drag. Don’t double tap, just push down the trackpad, keep pushing and drag at the same time. Only macs can do it (to my knowledge) and it’s more intuitive than the double tap drag

[@marro643]

@@franciscoxc Windows and Linux absolutely do this, and it has probably been a feature for as long as trackpads have existed because you're giving the exact same inputs as if you were using a mouse. The reason people would want to use double-tap drag is because it doesn't require you to hold down the trackpad, and holding down the trackpad while dragging can become tiring after a while.

[@franciscoxc]

@@marro643 what I’m talking about started being possible when apple launched the buttonless trackpad…

[@ChristopherDazey]

There are ways to overcome some of these issues using Applescripts, too, in addition to third-party apps. But I am one of only about 100 people left on the planet who cares about AppleScript. And so much of this stuff should just be built in by this point. I think Apple has really committed themselves to the Mac hardware in the last couple years with the new chip architecture, better keyboards and more functional design, so I hope that a renaissance in the software is soon to follow. (Really, really hope.)

[@alkaliaurange]

what do I search to find these Applescripts?

[@keithcurtis]

Much respect from a fellow Applescript user. It's a terrible language in terms of raw power, but it does stuff that's just near-impossible any other way. Inter-application programming is a breeze.

[@keithcurtis]

@@alkaliaurange What would you like to do with them? Usually you can find them by searching "Applescript [name of app] [description of problem]"

[@pirojfmifhghek566]

Just saying "Applescript" is giving me hives.

[@yesyes-om1po]

Apple doesn't have a good consumer track record, I genuinely think they do not give two fucks about their customers not even in the slightest. They fuck em over at every possible avenue they can and their OS is no exception.

[@alexfoxleigh9443]

I switched to Mac about 10 years ago. I’d say that I’ve never looked back but that just not true. On multiple occasions I’ve attempted to return to windows but found it severely lacking. I actually still have a windows machine but it’s mainly just for gaming. Which is annoying as it means I have two computers on my desk. Then the latest version of Windows 11 came along and I love it. I really want to be able to daily drive this OS now but I’m firmly entrenched in the Apple ecosystem and there are a few things like Airdrop, handoff and the amazing Universal Clipboard that I just can’t let go of. So I think my dream of only having one machine is still in the distant future.

[@nowandrew4442]

Why would you need Airdrop, handoff etc if you only had one machine...............................

[@alexfoxleigh9443]

@@nowandrew4442 I don’t have one machine. I have a phone and a tablet that I often want to transfer data between easily.

[@noisycarlos]

Old comment, but try KDE Connect. It may not have the Apple polish, but it does a lot of the things you miss, including clipboard syncing, and file transfer.

[@KSveint]

Need a windows video on how Microsoft makes the search tool search the internet by default. And how the notifications always show up on the primary display. Also windows explorer is slow and often causes other programs to crash but you can't change your default file explorer. Windows also doesnt let you give a priority order to audio devices so you don't know which "default audio" device it will use when plugging in extra screens and headphones. More on this windows has a saved configuration profile for each external montior you plug into, but doesn't let you edit it unless you are connected to that monitor.

[@TheRatManBob]

Agreed I would love the option to use something like Thunar or Nemo instead of Explorer.

[@seyyyer]

> Need a windows video on how Microsoft makes the search tool search the internet by default i recently figured out how to change that and it made me actually use the search bar multiple times a day instead of once or twice monthly. Its such a bizarre thing to do on microsofts part

[@TacohMann]

Powertoys (mentioned in the video) has a "powertoys run" app that is very similar to spotlight on macos. I'ts so nice to use.

[@KSveint]

@@seyyyer good to know

[@KSveint]

@@TacohMann will be trying this out

[@FEPLabsRadio]

One you kinda hit, which drives me insane, is the planned obsolescence of the Apple hardware. I have a 2012 mac pro cheese grater, still runs great! I have to jink around, because apple quit supporting it in their official upgrades back during the mojave days (and I had to buy a new video card for that to even install). This is not my game machine (Win, Steamdeck), I use it for YT, work, video editing etc. I feel like poor Kenny - I get killed during every OS upgrade as they drop more and more support, until what is good iron, will be useless. I'll load Ubuntu on it at that point. Excellent video! This is from a longtime Mac/Win/Linux user.

[@Nightcaat]

I really hope this stuff gets fixed soon. I switched from Mac after 8 years and because of how well Windows already handles this stuff my heart didn’t skip a beat.

[@SagittarA]

no it wont. apple is stubborn like a small child. just look what it took for apple to adopt micro usb standard on iphones. a FREAKING BAN by LAW.

[@jamess.2491]

don't ever expect it to lmao, it is kinda odd how windows has shit functionality too but you barely hear LTT complain about it

[@TrioLOLGamers]

@@jamess.2491 "Modern Standby" (yep, that's why after I'll finish my university project, I'll go pack to W10). LTT complains but you know, you can uninstall/install Windows/Linux any time you want on any machine, you can't on the other hand install Mac on any other machine (except Hackintosh).

[@mondotv4216]

Oh and you also missed the Mac monitor gamma, which for some insane reason, is 1.8 when 99% of the world's monitors use 2.2 as a standard.

[@JamesScholesUK]

5:50 "You might love the default behaviour, but that doesn't mean that the people who don't like the out-of-box experience should have to suffer" This. Every time I have a difference of opinion on how Apple wants me to do something, I'm met with "just do it the Apple way, it's better" - I don't care if you think it's better. I have different needs and expectations. I use macOS to check my websites work on Safari and I'd quite like to not have to relearn _every shortcut and gesture_ that I've committed to memory over the last 20 years.

[@megamastah]

> I'm met with "just do it the Apple way, it's better" You are met with blind cult following which is (the cult) ok with the dictatorship. Also +100 to the shortcuts/gestures problem.

[@jjmmjj9999]

@@megamastah youtube, not 4chan

[@worldshell2313]

@@megamastah and ironically they have to pay more to get that

[@BelkyRealm]

“I’ve committed to memory over the last 20 years” is it that hard to be dynamic? Robots act like this

[@JamesScholesUK]

@@BelkyRealm no, but it's harder than not doing it. That's why all cars have steering wheels and pedals rather than one company deciding levers are a better interface

[@famitory]

fancyzones has been such an improvement to my workflow (especially on higher res monitors where dividing the space up more makes more sense) that frankly it should just be included in windows by default. while they're at it they should make it so you can hold additional keys while dragging to cycle through different profiles for the same monitor

[@jsVfPe3]

I am very excited to try that. I have a 48" OLED and previously searched for a way to divide the screen into 3 columns but couldn't find anything. It would also be nice for ultrawides.

[@clausbitten]

I think currently one of the biggest problems with Apple software incl. iPad/iOS is the pressure to release a new mayor version each year, which needs some fancy new features. They maybe should take more time to work on the errors and issues in the current versions. Already they must shift new features away from the announced release to get them working, so they have even less time until the next mayor version announcement comes with WWDC etc.

[@Sameerahuja662]

This is an issue with the whole software industry. Introducing new features just for the sake of change doesn’t always mean better user experience. Pair this with release now fix later approach that’s the double trouble

[@valdir7426]

The main problem I have with this is upgrading your system is a chore; and as someone who uses musical softwares with plugins I have to wait at least six months (sometimes more) for everything to be correctly updated. I end up not bothering to upgrade and when I consider it it's already a new version (until my system is just too old and then the upgrade is all the more complicated).

[@Lizlodude]

Honestly I just wish they would get with basically everyone else and recognize that the first party apps are just that: apps. They can update separately, I shouldn't need an iOS update to get an updated weather app.

[@STNKbone]

100%. Back in the early years of OS X they it was normal for a couple of years to pass between releases, and one (I forget which, maybe Snow Leopard?) was even advertised as offering "no new features", it was just focusing on bug fixes and stability. MacOS hasn't had a release like that since High Sierra, and I don't think iOS has ever had a bug fix only major update.

[@corylyon545]

"Where does the hardware end and software begins? Market sgmentation I tell you!" This statement is so true of many many many products.

[@DanC]

Long time MacOS user, since Lion actually. I agree with all of these, when I set up my new MBP 14'' it took quite a lot of extra utilities to get it where I wanted.

[@FilipRisteski]

I definitely agree with all of this. Because of xcode I had to move recently to macos, and I am not happy to the extent that I have separate machine for everything else outside of work.

[@scpatl4now]

It's funny that MacOS and Linux are based on the same foundation (UNIX). One side you have the closed source our way or else attitude vs open source which might take some tinkering "out of the box", but you can get exactly what you want in the end (not exactly true in 2005 when I switched to Linux...but pretty much is now). Linux is a short learning curve and if you are smart enough to want to customize your OS it really isn't that hard.

[@Signynt]

@@scpatl4now I'd argue that MacOS allows for pretty good customization, and I have always found an Open Source app for MacOS that does the equivalent of something I can do in Linux, and you can achieve a desktop experience that is very similar to something you would use in a Linux setup. Check out Yabai, Skhd and Alfred. There's also several open source bars available.

[@MTM358]

@@Signynt Agreed, there's a great selection of Mac apps that can alter system behavior fundamentally and solve most of these "nits" in the video.

[@CubeApril]

SoundSource is absolutely AMAZING app for controlling volume and output per app on macOS, but I shouldn't have to spend $40 for what should be in-built, basic functionality.

[@jacobwonder6735]

What’s freaking upsetting is apple doesn’t allow multiple monitors off a single USB C…. But if I switch to bootcamp on the same hardware, BOOM, it works.

[@moow950]

Huh? I have a Thunderbolt 4 dock connected to a single Thunderbolt 3 port of my MacBook Pro supplying it with power while having 2 4K 60 Hz monitors (could be 3), 2 more Thunderbolt ports, audio, LAN abd several USB 3.2 ports working with no problems!

[@jacobwonder6735]

@@moow950 thunderbolt 3 & 4 works, standard USB-C does not.

[@MaxLittleBuddy]

Intel Mac allow more than 1 external monitor out of the box and you can even use eGPU for that. But Apple Silicon Mac can't that these and has no Bootcamp, so...? What are you talking about

[@jacobwonder6735]

​@@MaxLittleBuddy I have a 2019 macbook pro. NON thunderbolt docks/dongles are software limited by MacOS. My USB-C dock has 2 HDMI cords. MacOS only lets me use one of them. If I switch to BootCamp, both ports work. I won't say this is well known, but this is a fact.

[@jacobwonder6735]

​@@MaxLittleBuddy Fun fact, You CAN use an eGPU to get more HDMI outs off a single USB C cable on silicon macs. Despite what all apples documents say. There is a $80 USB 3.0 (A port) to HDMI external video card that can give you an extra monitor even on the M1 Air. Apple claims it only gets 1 monitor out, and it does not support an external video card, but that is not true. And it DOES work.

[@fhmlol]

Regarding the per-app volume control, I would highly suggest SoundSource. It can do a whole lot other than per-app volume control. You can have different app using different audio sources, have a plethora of effects applied to your audio source OR your application audio, AutoEQ Support with parametric equalizer and any other audio effects possible. And the cherry on top is that it is designed beautifully. Rogue Amoeba makes it, and a few other really good audio related apps.

[@millar876]

I just don’t see the need for system level per app volume control, mainly because every app that I use that outputs sound has a volume control in its windows music, QuickTime, tv, VLC, youtube videos in safari. It’s a feature I’ve never had to use and don’t use on windows either, on windows I just adjust the output volume in the games menu so that it’s quieter than discord, that way I don’t need to alt+tab out and dive into windows 11 terrible audio settings

[@ooomaxx7026]

SoundSource is a great app, but not for $40.

[@ChandupaHerath]

There aren't any good solutions for Mac os like peace on windows. If you intend to EQ I would recommend AU Lab It's a 1st party tool provided by apple. (I.e AU Lab + Soundflower)

[@nobodynoone2500]

Or just use any modern linux distro out-of-the-box lmao.

[@thomgizziz]

@@millar876 You dont many other people do to the point that it is needed and you dont have to use it if you dont want to.

[@Endonae]

Love this format! Do it more often, and make a Windows version of this video please!

[@crestofhonor2349]

Windows version would be cool with all of it's problems too

[@kevinkrueger9171]

Thank you for validating my enormous frustration with the inability to decouple scroll direction.

[@somdobomk]

I know the point of the video is to have it built in but until they do try out a 3rd party add on I’ve been using, Mos. Works great. Free and open source. There’s also Linear mouse. They work with any mouse. You don’t have to get the MX Master or similar.

[@ajsrf]

I'm so confused about this in particular. I use a Windows desktop and a macbook, my mac scrolls just like my windows machine. I feel like I'm going crazy with this because I don't understand what is going on or what everyone is complaining about. They both behave the same way to me. I scroll down on my Windows mouse and page goes down, I scroll down on magic mouse or macbook trackpad and the pages goes down, can someone please explain what I'm missing here? Maybe I turned off natural scrolling when I bought the mouse because it was different and didn't even realized it. I've never used a trackpad on windows but does it works differntly? Is it natural scrolling on for trackpads and not for mouses on windows

[@ticenits1926]

@@ajsrf on a window system if you take your fingers and drag them down on the touchpad the page actually goes up like a cell phone, because you're actually dragging the page content downward. However if you connect a wheel mouse and roll the mouse wheel downward the page actually scrolls in the opposite direction, which makes perfect sense. However an apples world it doesn't, so you'll scroll them whilst wheel downwards and the page actually goes up, it's completely backwards and idiotic beyond belief

[@ajsrf]

@@ticenits1926 Thank you for the answer, I must have turned natural scrolling off as soon as i connected a mouse on my mac probably

[@pendekarmac]

Here's a tips: in Mac, you can always point the Open/Save Dialog to a Finder Window location by dragging an item from the Finder Window and drop it in the Open/Save Dialog. Extra Tip: if you hover your mouse to the name at the top of the Finder Window, a folder icon will appear. If you grab that you can drop it to the Open/Save Dialog

[@johnpinneriv9958]

As the owner of an M1 (2020), the lack of multiple monitor support is infuriating...especially since it's nothing more than a sales tactic.

[@Stu2366593]

I doubt that Apple will address any of these issues. The company only makes changes when most of the pundits start bashing them collectively and it starts to hurt the brand or sales. Personally, some of the problems raised by Linus or crew are not that important for me, and some are really annoying. I have been straddling the windows/mac world for over 25 years. As time goes on, I just learn to manage around these things. One thing though, when I stop working eventually, the first thing removed permanently in my collection of MacOS and Windows computers is Office 365.

[@LuLeBe]

Although I gotta say Office and Onedrive are way ahead for me compared to Google Drive (which looks great but is more difficult to actually use) or the Apple stuff (I have no clue about iCloud but being Apple only is already a no-go).

[@somesalmon5694]

I'll stick to next cloud, screw both of them honestly

[@richmahogany1]

this is great LTT. a concise list of very popular gripes that a lot of loyal and high paying customers have very openly wanted for a very long time, most of which would not take apple long at all to fix. therefore they have absolutely no chance of happening. however they will continue to come up with a bunch of new features and ways to do things that you didn't ask for no problem. seriously though, the justification with apple always used to be that they may have less features or options, but the ones that are there usually work better than the competition. many of the issues listed in this video very much go against that trend and they can't afford to ignore them. my list for iphone would be even longer than the mac one.

[@_PatrickO]

This is why it was absurd to claim non-apple OS users are fanboys in the same sense as a mac user. You have to be a sadomasochist to prefer a mac for multitasking and the worst part is these issues can all be fixed in software with very low effort. It is as if apple stopped improving usability on desktop as soon as they released iphones and ipads.

[@mikelsoze2792]

Honestly worst software limitation when it comes to external displays is the lack of MST support.

[@ItsGazareth]

You guys missed one of the biggest ones - you can't turn off desktop/space transitions, unless you turn on "reduce motion", which also trickles down into your browser and disables a bunch of animations!

[@EmyNN]

Whaaat?

[@ItsGazareth]

@@jcfawerd Will you share the command?

[@jayster3.0]

Linus smiles every time we get to the sponsors. He knows he loves sponsors, and I’m glad to see that.

[@HelenaOfDetroit]

One of my biggest gripes is the inability to cut and paste files. Even selecting multiple files is more difficult, and often you can't even use keyboard shortcuts to copy and paste from one folder to another. It forces you to drag and drop, which is slower and clunkier than just using some keyboard shortcuts.

[@fedeparodi3464]

You can! Cmd+C to copy and Opt+Cmd+v to move

[@cedricpomerleau5586]

@@fedeparodi3464 Exactly, I'm surprised there's not more people knowing that.

[@thomgizziz]

@@cedricpomerleau5586 Three keys and no context menus. This is a problem and you saying that more people should just know a key combination isn't helping anybody, especially not your beloved computer that you seem to have an irrational attachment to. If you like the company so much wouldnt you want them to make the computer better for everybody? Or do you think you are special because you have this hidden knowledge and want it to be an exclusive club so you feel special?

[@quAdxify]

@@thomgizziz use the terminal!

[@oldlavygenes]

@@thomgizziz Chill bro, you're all over the comments seething all batshit crazy. Settle down, it's a fucking desktop interface, not some huge existential issue.

[@0brooo]

Love the mac and window’s conversation. I support both so much and love keeping the conversation alive

[@judychu868]

6:23 - This just blew my mind... I used to operate an older Thunderbolt display and an additional 4K monitor with an Intel-based Macbook Pro and thought my 4K monitor died when I tried to connect the two to my 2021 Macbook Pro years later. Productivity went down 10 folds as a result.

[@agaskew]

Holy cow. I haven't had an Apple anything for several years and this whole topic was a big surprise.

[@lunarmagpie4305]

One of the things I like about Linux is that you can change basically anything about your environment if you are determined enough. And I'm not just saying that, I have contributed to my desktop environment (pop-shell).

[@escapedcops08]

What's funny is MOST of the problems Linux users have are self-inflicted. In the end, it's a novelty that isn't productive in business settings. Not much of a flex anymore as much it is cringe by an experienced community.

[@TheScarvig]

bad thing for noob level consumers: you sometimes have to do it for what feels like really basic tasks...

[@tunina6421]

I find that Linux window managers tend to have common sense solutions for some problems while opening up a bunch of new ones. I think the idea of config files for controlling what window appears where is brilliant, but so much other configuration is needed in WMs that I find it a waste of time. That being said, most Linux DEs are fairly polished nowadays. You can run a fairly stock GNOME experience and get decent UI out of the box

[@livelongandtroll9108]

*Inconsistencies apart, I LOVE how fullscreen apps work on MacOS.* The idea to trow the fullscreen apps in a different workspace is quite simply genius. Meaning that the user can go back to desktop or switch between multiple fullscreen apps with a flick on the touchpad just like any other workspace. Something that I miss when I use windows.

[@KingKong-xp6so]

Educate yourself asap

[@livelongandtroll9108]

@deadbeef I don't need to create a new desktop on mac. It automatically moves every fullscreen app to a new workspace then it goes back to my original desktop on exit, that was my point.

[@livelongandtroll9108]

@@KingKong-xp6so Not my problem if you guys misunderstood what I was saying and saw the need to "educate me" on how to create and move between different desktops on windows.

[@luciascarlet]

@@livelongandtroll9108 It's also *actually* fullscreen instead of maximised so you don't have a title bar and taskbar eating up space, at least on screens that don't have a notch (on notched screens apps need to individually accomodate for this). I value that quite a bit in apps like Cinema 4D where I really just want to be able to use every single pixel my display gives me.

[@livelongandtroll9108]

@@luciascarlet I know. I quite like full screen on Mac for professional applications. I can't say anything about the notched screens because I've never used a mac with one but I from what I've seen it criticisms seem valid.

[@DennyLindberg]

I'm surprised no one mentioned the atrocity of not being able to turn off mouse acceleration without terminal hacks.

[@Jason733i]

Would love to see a follow up where you interview someone at Apple about their decision making processes for features of the Mac OS!

[@timplett1]

Good luck finding anyone at Apple who would deign to talk to Linus or anyone who questions them. Apple is right, you're all wrong for not liking it.

[@ticenits1926]

Their entire design philosophy is how can we cripple users into becoming dependent upon our software so that they can't go anywhere else.

[@BennyCornelissen]

I 100% agree on the issue around per-app volume controls, even if it doesn't bother me much in my daily usage. But it's _especially_ sad if you consider just how good the audio architecture of MacOS is. MacOS has been able to do pretty absurd things with audio long before Microsoft decided to add per-app volume controls to Windows. However, there are solutions! A free solution (that I have no experience with) is BackgroundMusic; which lets you control the volume of individual apps. *ding* Another option that I do have experience with is Rogue Amoeba's SoundSource (I have no affiliation to Rogue Amoeba, just a user of their software). It's not free, but it does the per-app volume thing and a lot more. If you want to route different apps to different outputs, run per-app custom EQs, add effects to specific apps (any AudioUnit effect will work) or run a custom EQ for your headphones.. then SoundSource is 100% worth the money (and you can try the software without buying it).

[@valdir7426]

as I said earlier I'm all in favor of having as few gain staging step as possible when your using software because it introduces needless problems (distortion; noise) and it's simply too confusing. I like how they do it on phones; just one volume control; not even an in app separated volume (or at least the option to do it). Fiddling to see if your youtube video volume is up; then your volume; then your sound interface (then your speakers; and so on); is just a waste of time. If you start lowering the volume in your soft mixer then next time you use it you'll wonder why the volume is so low. I don't see many cases when you need to have more than one source at the same time anyway (and when you do you still have the volume from the software). If you do there are options as you say.

[@hanktray]

This is my biggest gripe. Especially for streaming

[@ficcaflame]

As a Mac user, enjoyed the video! Many great points. Also, Windows Users don't deserve the confusion of having to use the Control Panel app AND the Settings app. When will all the settings finally make it over to the new app?!

[@vladyslavhafanovych24]

Honestly, I dont think I've used Control Panel in a while. The problem is that a lot of submenus for very specific things like about which icons to dispkay on desktop are a part of control panel UI.... so its going to stay for a while. And they've burnt direct links to most of those small things into PC Settings already, so its not really a problem...

[@DEJ915]

This is definitely annoying since for things that have an option in both the new settings app is missing options say like when creating a VPN you can create for all users via control panel to get network login on the login screen but via settings that option doesn't appear.

[@TiagoCheregati]

I wonder why they just removed the option to schedule shut downs or power-ups in certain week days. It worked great and was very useful in so many cases. In Ventura, it's just gone. WHY, Apple? WHY???

[@spaghettiiq]

its not? just somewhere else in the ventura settings, remember still seeing it though

[@grempal]

My favorite issue that I've ever encountered with Macs is that they can corrupt their own hard drives to the point that the drive cannot be reformatted by OSX. You have to remove the drive, chuck it in a windows machine format it and then stick it back in the Mac to reformat into a journaled filesystem. I had this happen numerous times when I used to service Macs. Mind blowingly stupid.

[@adanmirandaespindola521]

true, try to work constantly with network drives also.... it's a pain...

[@franciscoxc]

sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/disk8 (Change the 8 with your drive’s number obviously) This terminal command will destroy any data problem no matter what. It’ll let you format any stubborn hardrive. Let it run for a couple of seconds and stop it with control C (not command). You’ll get a nice like new drive on disk utility. Your welcome

[@franciscoxc]

What it does is replace all your partition map and boot sector and mbr or uefi or whatever with a bunch of 00000 so do it carefully because you’ll loose everything on said drive

[@dwighthouse]

Don’t think that’s intentional. Never seen that in 15 years with dozens of hard drives.

[@grempal]

@@franciscoxc yeah that only works then the computer recognizes that it has a drive in it which the Macs with this issue wouldn't. This was also about 10 years ago when Macs still had replaceable drives and weren't hardware nightmares.

[@phos07_main]

Great insightful video. I've seen way too much people blindly defending Windows and/or macOS. Good video addressing both the good and bad. I'm a daily macOS user, but I try to find my own solutions to avoid conforming to what Apple tells me to do. Can't appreciate third party developers enough.

[@thomgizziz]

Have you really seen a lot of people defending windows? You don't see windows users going around praising the OS, not because the OS isn't good but most windows users don't think of themselves as a religious follower of a company and that religion makes them better than others. It is a tool and windows users tend to treat it as so, mac users tend to have some weird emotional attachment to apple because they feel they are in the group of the chosen ones, it is some weird cult like behavior and it isn't good for anybody.

[@phos07_main]

I would say maybe not so much in an English speaking community, but it is much more obvious in Japan, where I'm from. I agree with you in that there are more "religious" people in the mac community, but I wish they would keep quiet because they probably only make up a portion of the whole body; there are many normal users too. -Just curious, would you say there are Windows users are "religious" in the sense they deny macOS in general (not the users)?- Scratch that, I've looked thru the comment section and seen you've been going quite wild, and answered my question.

[@OurFantasyLife]

@@xPRODIGYxGAMER Procreate is the industry standard for most artists these days, and Procreate is only available on the Mac side, so I'm not sure what software is "just as good" on the Windows side. Maybe Clip Studio Paint? Most "groups" that use Mac prefer the integrated ecosystem and premium hardware, so the claim that they have "no good reason" for doing so is false. You sound more "religious" in your opinions than the average Apple user, since you're just making opinion-based claims with zero evidence to support them.

[@ThePC007]

One thing that grinds my gears is the “Automatically rearrange Spaces based on most recent use” setting. When it's enabled, it keeps rearrangering my Spaces which is super annoying, but when it's disabled, enabling fullscreen mode on an app moves it all the way to the far-right of the Spaces list rather than next to whichever Space you are currently on, so you need to move it manually. :( Also, why can't you decrease the size of the miniaturized windows when using Stage Manager. :/

[@feaRaef]

As a UI designer and developer who has been using a Mac since 2013, I have grown to love the platform. Additionally, I completely agree with the issues this video raised.

[@SinnerDeveloper]

The most annoying thing it's the lack of corner snapping. I'm amazed how awesome it's on Windows 11 right now, it's fast in easy to use and for a multi-tasking user like I am it's a must have.

[@_PatrickO]

On top of that, even thought someone at microsoft tried to make the taskbar as unusable as the mac dock for no logical reason, they still include the ability to set the taskbar to left justify and work the same as previous taskbars. It takes 10 seconds to change it back and you can find it pretty easily searching the word taskbar in start menu if you don't know where the settings are.

[@SinnerDeveloper]

@@_PatrickO yup, it’s all about giving options to the users. Ok, most of users don’t know shit about MacOS and they only want to write something and watch a movie but put the fucking settings in the system for the “pro” users😑

[@BlueberryJamPie]

The volume mixer on Windows kinda sucks though, I've been using EarTrumpet and it's so good to just be able to get the old click and all the items show up instead of right click > volume mixer > scroll through all the NON-AUTOUPDATING program lists until you reopen it.

[@PatrisDev]

LinearMouse is a good free tool to have separate scroll direction for your mouse (it can also disable mouse accelleration)

[@HoloScope]

Thanks

[@vallelunga64]

I couldn't survive a day using my mouse on a mac before installing that.

[@_PatrickO]

Thanks for this. Recently forced to use a mac at work and it is ridiculous the number of 3rd party apps needed to bandaid macos. Even this app, downloading it opens a window that doesn't look like the normal apple drag the icon to the folder install. Will drag and drop install it, who knows and the OS certainly is not going to tell you. Installing on mac is so dumb with zero direction. Thankfully this can be installed on commandline with homebrew. Although that still took a few minutes as it has to wait for brew to auto update. I just installed it and it definitely makes scrolling more normal. You can toggle it on and off with the settings open to quickly compare with it enabled or off.

[@87-BeforeCommonEra]

I've been a lifelong mac os user, I've never even owned a windows machine (although i have run Linux), and even I agree most of these problems are outrageous oversights. Most have been a problem for literally years! Thank god for the community developing work arounds and other solutions.