Don't use smart gadgets without doing this first!

[@Sherakee]

The only "Smart device" I have is furry, barks, has 4 legs and knows how to work all my buttons!

[@thundercho]

Putting these devices on the guest network is the best option for "smart" devices. Good work Liron!

[@dandm20]

I wish I was tech savvy to do all you teach. Thank you for all you do to teach us viewers to be safe.

[@KasperskyFan2111]

I use a smart LED light bulb, and a smart plug and I never knew these risks! Thanks for the information, Liron Segev! You really helped me keep my network safe! 👍

[@davekramer4266]

I agree 100%.., I also keep NO Banking, & Bank card Information on my cell phone..

[@RonCGooglePage]

Liron you're the best! I just redid my entire network and am using this router for my main R and four other as nodes. Love the added guest network features. I just wish it worked with more routers other than the Asus Pro lines. Thanks again for the video!

[@andrewvickers4487]

Hadn't looked into this - another valuable lesson, thanks Liron!

[@johngravett4638]

I’m not that tech savvy so excuse the question, but if you have your smart home devices on a guest network, will you have to switch your phone to that same guest network, each time you want to control the devices using the phone, or is this not necessary

[@kinsley7777]

I’ll never understand how people can rationalize connecting all their devices to Alexa … particularly with children in the home 🙄

[@WriterBren]

It's been a dream come true for the blind and visually impaired community as well as a physically disabled.

[@kinsley7777]

@@WriterBren I hadn’t thought of that, but you make a valid point …

[@lovly2cu725]

meaning?

[@TUKByV1]

@@lovly2cu725 The answer you seek is best gained through study.

[@Hboogie182]

So we shouldn't use Ring camera?

[@johnc2438]

But... but... but how will my refrigerator tell me that I'm out of milk? 🤣 Thanks for the great idea: I'll put my thermostat and washing machine on the guest network I already have set up.

[@colinmiddleton9444]

Thanks

[@LironSegev]

Appreciate you being here 🔥

[@gregoryknight2928]

Thank you. I play around with a lot of IOT devices and con figuring programming my own ESP32 devices and have always wondered about keeping them connected to the main wifi. This was a great video. Thanks.

[@nigeldoyle696]

Hi Liron , ... Once again, you are 'THE Man' in this department. My energy supplier keeps on pestering me to have a smart meter installed in place of my prepayment meter! As all appliances have different Hertz's and such, i worry about someone knowing that I have just boiled the kettle. Stay well Sir and full respect to you. 🦉

[@yerunski]

Nice advice to move IoT devices to the Guest network (or Guest wifi in my case) but there is a small problem. Now I can't reach those devices anymore. For example my IP camera. So they are not usable anymore.

[@superb3113]

I second this. I initially thought about using the guest network feature on my Nighthawk router for my Alexa devices, smart lights, and security cameras. Except I wouldn't be able to reach them locally via apps on my phone. My last resort right now is to (at some point) get a firewall that handles VLANs. That also includes getting switches/routers that are able to tag VLAN traffic. Not cheap. You could build one using open-source software, but then you'll need to build a system to run it that has multiple ethernet ports, and has a fast enough processor to handle traffic monitoring, DDOS/IPS protection, internet speeds, etc.

[@Kevin-nw9om]

With iotyou could just set the vlan thing in the router and a ddns thing for outside..

[@yerunski]

@@Kevin-nw9om My router doesn't support VLANs. Guess in my case it's not possible.

[@mightymight365]

I trust you Segev with relaying truthful, trustful, and reliable consumer security information. There are many content creators that talk about VLANs. I would like your take on them since you explain in an easy-to-understand manner and you're very thorough. I like sharing your videos with my "smart" family that has no clue of the many threats we face today. Thank you for doing what you do for us. It is greatly appreciated. 👏💯

[@bign1667]

The only sensible benefit to those smart plugs is to allow it to power on a lamp 💡 so thieves think someone is still at home at night or to track power consumption to troubleshoot power bill issues. Other than that disconnect it and put it aside.

[@vbachman6742]

Or just buy an old fsshioned timer to set on & off times. Pllug in lamps or radios or TVs. I use them for 3 lamps year round. I never ever use "smart" devices no matter what the manufacturers say. Well known companies have a history of lying to consumers.

[@AceMoonshot]

There are analog devices that do that.

[@Design_no]

Many other benefits too. Controlling devices remotely can be very helpful.

[@Design_no]

Many other benefits too. Controlling devices remotely can be very helpful.

[@enelhorno2024]

Also helps changing light colors, combinations for a whole room, etc.

[@send2gl]

I actually have an older tp-link router and use VLAN to get a similar result to what you described. I can use 3 SSIDs and a guest network, all of which can be added to a vlan.

[@LironSegev]

Yup. If you have the technical expertise to do it 100% do it! Nice 👍

[@HOSPlTALLER]

VLANS are a win, getting your head around the settings between different swich manufacturers can be a bit daunting. Got a Asus GT-AX6000, which supports VLAN and finally have it all sorted.

[@Kevin-nw9om]

Only thing with the guest network for me is the dhcp. I have a server that handles that so when I use rhe router it's gives my wifi devices a different range. Although that might not be a bad thing..

[@justinpenn9250]

I don’t seem to be able to configure IOT devices that are not on the same network as my phone - where the app is. Do you have solution? Do you switch networks on the phone when accessing IOT devices? Example - my Honeywell thermostat app - I use it a lot - several times per day to adjust the temperature. I really don’t want to change my phones network back and forth each time.

[@dawnrazor]

So what about the requirement that the device needs to be on the same network as your controller device ie your phone. How does that work if they’re in different networks. I’m surprised you didn’t mention this

[@SynK-R]

Thanks Liron. I have never trusted Wifi or any wifi connectivity devices. No matter what the stores or there websites say how safe they all are, its totally opposite. But the only smart device I have in my home is smart tv. And phone. But the tv dont have any wifi connected to it. But phone only connects to my sister's wifi once in a while. But thanks for confirming my suspicions about wifi smart devices.

[@CoolDudeClem]

instead of a smartphone I have a landline. Instead of smart sockets, I have "normal" sockets. Instead of a smart TV, I have a monitor.

[@Awli-u2t]

Hello My touchpad setting is missing on windows 11 , i want to enable two finger scrolling , i watched lots of videos on youtube but didnt work , i also installed gesturesign but dont know how it works

[@Poxenium]

Im in favor of non-smart automation that doesn't connect to any network, just sensors and relays that switch things on and off depending on where you are in the house.

[@TheUummmmmmm]

If youre savvy enough you could go down the rabbit hole and setup something like pfsense as a router and unifi as APs. The secret is in vlans and firewall rules. People would be amazed at the control one could have. Plus setup a pihole with a strong list for DNS filtering and most bad sites should be blocked.

[@kuksybee]

You are a living legend brother🎉

[@bigkahuna6277]

At those prices I will take my chances, but thanks for this info.

[@krtxd]

Realistically, what can a hacker do in my network after hacking into my lightbulb? Except flicking the light ofc

[@DonoVideoProductions]

Firewalls, people. There is one built in to your router. Block internet access. Let it only connect over your LAN. Set up Home Assistsnt, and host your own automation network. No cloud. No subscription. It's not that difficult, and well worth it.

[@RevWillBreeze]

41 IOT devices and I'm just getting started

[@DonoVideoProductions]

@@RevWillBreeze Eek! I don't think my router will allow more than 25 devices. What are they all for?

[@RevWillBreeze]

@@DonoVideoProductions smart plugs, lights bulbs, 3 cpu's, a Pi running home assistant, cameras, TV's. Most routers can handle 60

[@DUMPSTERDIVINGADELAIDE123]

Thanks a lot, I don't use them & would never buy them, my attention to detail tells me too 😊

[@MelissaB0999]

Would you recommend your main or guest network for Alexa and Blink? We don't have other smart home devices, and being new to smart home devices, I'm confused.

[@LironSegev]

All devices that don't need access to your main network, your printer, your computers etc should be on a guest network. They still get internet access but they don't get access to your main network

[@MelissaB0999]

@LironSegev thanks so much! If I'm understanding correctly, the router itself then is the only device​ on the main network.

[@LironSegev]

No. The router is the gateway between you and the Internet. Everything goes via the router. When you set up a guest network is separates your home system into two. But both go out to the Internet via the router. But the two networks don't cross talk to each other.

[@MelissaB0999]

@@LironSegev I see. You're drawing a map for me, it helps. Thanks again so much for explaining things!

[@MrPir84free]

Ideally, your wifi router also supports device isolation, which is often a feature of a wifi guest network; enable it so that the device thinks it's the ONLY device on the network. If there is an option to see your other networks, your guest & IOT device networks should ONLY have internet access, and not access to the internal networks. Many older wifi routers will only support a single guest network; however, many dedicated access points do support more than one SSID. There are OTHER aspects to security that one should ALSO consider while purchasing IOT devices ( Internet of Things ). Usually this means that you are installing an application on your phone. How many other people do other things with their phones, like access your banking information, accessing critical and often personal information; as a result, consider this before you buy non-brand name devices of any sort. Is that no-name brand $3 IOT switch really worth the potential access to your phone, or to your banking information ? Yeah..

[@DungarooTV]

I totallly agree with you - the only "smart device" I have in my home is my TV - everything else is not needed...in my opinion, you're not very "smart" if you have to rely on "smart" devices!

[@iffyangel3380]

Those smart TVs are the worst. They can monitor you even when it's off. Camera, voice, etc. They know ppl will keep them anyway.

[@RobC1999]

@@iffyangel3380I haven’t seen many TVs with cameras. Mine has a microphone in the remote, but only transmits when holding down a button. Still, there’s a lot of information in knowing what and when you watch.

[@TechOverwrite]

Smart TVs *shudder* It's all a scale though, to be honest. Smart phones aren't great, neither is Windows (especially Windows 11). But yet most homes have loads of them. I have some smart tech but I try and prefer local control devices, whether that's ZigBee ones or WiFi ones that have local protocols/access.

[@iffyangel3380]

@@wilsonas53 nope. I'm too old for all that. I have a cell phone because my kids insist. It's cheaper than a land line. It really doesn't matter what you do or don't have. Imo, we are all being watched some way or another.

[@Traitorman.Con.14th.Sec3]

3:04 And the market will be flooded with cheap stuff claiming to follow the security standard. And they won’t.

[@LironSegev]

Exactly

[@geraldwood9582]

I have a Trane smart thermostat. Are those safe?

[@LironSegev]

As long as it is set up the right way

[@Chris558576]

I wont be connecting iot devices to my network ever. If i find i really need to turn something on or off i will make something up using a second phone with auto answer & dtmf signalling. Old tech has its advantages.

[@autonomous_collective]

Great video. Thx for sharing....

[@meralias]

Whilst this seems to address one of the types of smart device in use today, utilizing Wifi for communication, that doesn't address the various device types out there that don't use Wifi and IP. These will utilize protocols like Zigbee and Z-Wave, helping to reduce any attack vector.

[@Bennyblanco-xx6ki]

Hey I bought the ASUS zenwifi xt9 frm ur site, and like am I able to trade this in and get this one!! Like can or shud I upgrade to this one!! Also this whole time I had this I’m still not able to set up instant Guard, plus I dnt think I set up the firewall right!! And when I called ASUS like the guy like was giving me a hard time!!!! But I still have faith in them , I just want help setting things up the right way, cuz something’s it’s hard to figure out!!

[@lovly2cu725]

good info and timely

[@tofu_golem]

The smart devices are on a network plugged directly into the modem/router. Computers and mobile devices are connected to a subnet created by a router connected to the modem/router.

[@LironSegev]

Not unless you set it up that way. By default all devices connect on one network and get IP from the DHCP on the router. Regardless if it's wired or wireless.

[@Beez27]

Cost...way out of my budget. Anything comparable at a lower price?

[@LironSegev]

Yes. Asus has a range of WiFi routers at various price points.

[@colinmiddleton9444]

Liron does seem to me to be very knowledgeable about what he talks about.

[@Arcadier]

Here all IoT devices are seperated in a own vlan and a pretty mux complex rulework in my firewall. Pretty much over the line for a homenetwork, but I feel a bit better tho'

[@auym4432]

I use home assistant with a local connection only

[@pezz779]

True that mate I have no smart device in my place. I only have a phone

[@ZarpeParadise]

Thank you, Never realized most of this.

[@TUKByV1]

Noted. Thank you.

[@HOSPlTALLER]

Just got done setting up VLANS with an ASUS GT-6000 and some netgear VLAN enabled switches. VLAN for VOIP telecoms (made in China voip adaptor); VLAN for CCTV (made in China Hikvision); VLAN for Burglar Alarm (not made in China) but while I'm at it might as well... Guest network for more made in China WiFi IP cameras and doorbell; And a Guest network for Guests. edit: feeling a lot better about things should we go to war with China. Although not sure if I should buy some rad suits...

[@milesipka]

Thanks for that video, Liron, although I have always hated the idea of having "smart" devices in my family home. Many people woke up to the danger after that incident last year with the Amazon smart home shutdown thanks to Alexa. My lesson is to watch "Demon Seed" from 1977. That particular situation will most likely happen one day, given how depraved AI will soon become...

[@vondahe]

That ASU’s router had better make coffee and take the dog for a walk at that price…. EIGHT HUNDRED US dollars. Yikes!

[@WesternAustraliaNowAndThen]

If you buy ANY product that relies on connecting to a server to work, you are wasting your money regardless of the security they offer. The new trick compaines are up to is making you subscribe to their online service in order to keep using the gadgets you buy from them. If you don't pay, they either switch them off or cripple them so you lose functionality. DO NOT buy ANY product that relies on connecting to a remote server in order to work.

[@TheUnofficialMaker]

only $800, how much is your commission? my tp link has guest network and much cheaper.

[@LironSegev]

Literally said you can do it on your current router 🤡 Don't forget to take your meds fucker

[@Design_no]

As long as you can flash them with your own firmware they are fine.

[@delwoodbarker]

How will we test for these security standards, especially ones like, "No back doors?" What third party is going to do the testing?

[@RT-fb6ty]

A government approved NGO.

[@ypark2877]

Wifi devices vs zigbee or LoRa via bridges.

[@neilt]

My smart devices use local control hubs and are built by reputable companies. So I guess they are safe enough and I don't need to worry?

[@AceMoonshot]

I mean...uhhh? Accurate and appropriate response.

[@clij5202]

Running on their own single-SSID-wifi-VLAN separated from my regular laptop, desktop, servers, mobiles …

[@LironSegev]

Cool

[@DUMPSTERDIVINGADELAIDE123]

Do vpns really work?

[@LironSegev]

Yes.ifnyoy get a reputable company with no log policy

[@DUMPSTERDIVINGADELAIDE123]

@@LironSegev - Thanks, coz I've heard some are fake on KZbin, unless they are lying?

[@PurpleRhymesWithOrange]

Exactly why I never buy smart devices. I only buy the old dumb ones that need a dedicated remote with no access to the internet.

[@TheUnofficialMaker]

i use a PLC, all local no apps!

[@cameraman655]

My Home is ANALOG and will likely remain that way.

[@letsRegulateSociopaths]

That's a nearly $800 router. There has to be a cheaper way to go. Set up a VPN?

[@stevejarvis186]

£699 unfortunately I`ll have to do without!

[@taloweryus]

Agreed. The router mentioned here, while impressive in its features, is just too expensive for us mere mortals. I know the video is sponsored by ASUS, but how about a recommendation for a more budget friendly router that ticks at least some of the same boxes?

[@LironSegev]

Actually if you look in the description they have loads of WiFi routers at every budget level that have these feature

[@tonykeltsflorida]

Alexa make me nervous enough.

[@letsRegulateSociopaths]

and NOW a standard just came out that can connect to NORMAL bluetooth devices FROM SPACE. Yeah, really.

[@knoxlowe1]

But Liron, that router is almost $800.

[@LironSegev]

They have a range of routers at various price points. For me, it's a router you buy once and is future proof since it already has WiFi 7 and very powerful features. Check out the video I linked to at the end to see why it's well worth it

[@rutgerhoutdijk3547]

All my smart devices work offline and are only accessible through a vpn tunnel.

[@artisticendeavors5076]

Zilch in my house...NO AI❤

[@BornSuperSaiyan]

I use my plugs for my lights nothing really important

[@telepolo]

These smart devices are connected to your home router before they can even have access to the internet and so it depends on your home router’s firewall as to how secure you’re going to be -- Duh !!!!!!!!!!

[@LironSegev]

Eh... exactly. And so the guest network creates different subnets so the networks are kept separate DUH 🙄

[@peterburi2727]

Expensive router that is...jeeez.

[@LironSegev]

It depends how you look at it. It has WiFi 7 so it's future proof, it has powerful hardware so you get the speed even when there are loads of devices connected to it, and you get security. If you don't need any of that, they have cheaper routers.

[@ComeonmenID10T]

i only have one Smart device in my home..... its called ....... *Wife !*

[@Hemshemsems]

Asus is up in the news now, very poor service. Content is sane and fine, but sponsor is not..

[@DocRock71]

You will have to pry my smart home devises from my cold dead fingers. Sorry.🙄🤷

[@jimspock]

Never would, smart phones are bad enough

[@alf8718]

The only "smart" device You shouldn't use is a Smartphone! anything else is a joke compared to it. Or stop pretending that You have any privacy at Your home. Or anywhere else for that matter

[@waynebrown4062]

I suppose better late than never

[@GaryGiffin49]

I only have a dumb house

[@FuzzyElf]

My mom has a dumb house with some smart devices in it.

[@ebinrock]

We're able to do that for now, but once all our existing appliances become so old that they're unrepairable (b/c the parts are no longer available), what choice will we have?

[@massapower]

I will never buy any of these devices !🤬👎

[@mub9341]

Enjoyed the video except for the sales pitch for ASUS. Horrible Company that continues to go more and more downhill every day. Not to mention they have the worst customer service on the planet! Please don't buy their products!

[@WindowsSurfaceOffical]

I don't trust on Asus Anymore

[@rufus7704]

And antivirus are just there to watch your business

[@guyva_unito_sree3]

too late. smart phone. especially iphones always listening.

[@konagirl805]

The best solution is to have ZERO smart anything. When I need to turn on a light or my A/C, I go push a button. The horror, I know...

[@ajaxmanatiso2193]

Overblown and mostly false. First and foremost, these devices have LAN addresses of 192.168 x.x which are non-routable addresses that can't be accessed over the internet. Most people access their device through something like Amazon Alexa which does have protection which is regularly updated by Amazon.

[@LironSegev]

Oh really? So none of us access our devices via an app right? I mean who actually accesses their remote cameras when they are out of the home? Oh and setting the AC isn't really done either with an app or people never set up a holiday light schedule via ..eh ..an app right? And those apps obviously don't work when you leave the house ... Oh...wait...they do? And of course everyone has only Amazon Alexa of course... So keep your bullshit to yourself.

[@HOSPlTALLER]

Yeah, having unvetted devices sharing the same network as the computers I use to access emails and online banking along with my NAS drive is just perfect...

[@rama4913]

Dude, your audience are grown-ups. Why are you talking like you're in front of a kindergarten class?

[@crazyhorsejohnny1974]

Probably because most of them are dumb and don’t get it

[@dartfrogdk]

remove your tinfoil hat, you dont sound too bright!

[@LironSegev]

Awww.I am willing to bet you didn't watch the video. Because if you did you would have seen that this is well documented and such a threat that there is an entire program dedicated to certify safe products. But hey, you probably wouldn't understand the big words anyways. 🤡

[@MrSprayCheese]

i think this is a little "tin foil hat" level lol

[@LironSegev]

Think you didn't watch the video. Because if you did you would have seen proof but hey, big words are difficult (that means hard)

[@davidbass6119]

Paranoid much?

[@LironSegev]

Clueless much?