Donald Fagen talks about PEG pt 1

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@ComradeStiv
@ComradeStiv 3 жыл бұрын
We seriously need to hound or bribe Fagen into doing a whole series of these before it's too late. Just deconstructing tunes, telling how they came into being, revealing all the mysteries. Sheeit I'd pay good money for that, no question
@blueshorecreative3146
@blueshorecreative3146 2 жыл бұрын
I also have the sense of time passing on geniuses who could be sharing their genius with future generations. What about someone like Steven Stills?
@elementrypenguin3116
@elementrypenguin3116 Жыл бұрын
Yea, I can’t count how many times I’ve watched this video. It’s beyond fascinating. I just wish it was more descriptive as far as chords used and the camera shoring the chords but it’s amazing watching this.
@Cameron5540
@Cameron5540 Жыл бұрын
just use your ears you fucking amateur. and while youre at it, listen to something that is better then steely dan (most music)
@djinnmagik2003
@djinnmagik2003 Жыл бұрын
That's a great idea. He's one of the most complex songwriters who add vocal melodies to sophisticated chord structures, beats, and rythyms
@-RandomBiz-
@-RandomBiz- Жыл бұрын
It's from an instructional video from Homespun Video. The whole video is on composition.
@donbreton
@donbreton 6 жыл бұрын
People wonder how and why Steely Dan is so popular, with their off base lyrics, etc, it is in the music, it isn't just a pop song, it is a deep, blues jazz based song, with strange lyrics, and the best musicians in the business playing it. Donald is a musical Genius.
@tomgriffin7019
@tomgriffin7019 6 жыл бұрын
Don Breton That’s what I say
@davidwatkins204
@davidwatkins204 5 жыл бұрын
Man, look, the term "genius" has become so overused, it's lost all precision of meaning. And if you have any doubts about this, call Donald Fagen, he'll tell you the same thing, now just enjoy the music and stop making your high minded comments.
@dantavano3871
@dantavano3871 5 жыл бұрын
​@@davidwatkins204 I'm not a huge fan of the term, I think it should be reserved quite a bit more as well as more specific. Donald Fagen is certainly an excellent musician with an incredible ear, but I'd hesitate to use that label as it is too broad. If you get a bit more specific and specify Songwriter I think it would be less inappropriate, but I feel you could easily feel push-back even at that level of specificity. On the other hand, if we're talking about recording audio, I think it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to call Donald Fagen a recording genius, Walter has a great ear for recording as well. Pretty much everyone considers Steely Dan records are at the audiophile level. I feel like that's specific enough for the term genius to be valid. "Peg" coincidentally, is a great example of their amazing ear for recording. Not to mention if you go a bit deeper you'll see they have a great understanding of the process itself in addition to having the ear for layering.
@davidwatkins204
@davidwatkins204 5 жыл бұрын
@@dantavano3871 Be more "specific"
@davidwatkins204
@davidwatkins204 4 жыл бұрын
@@rhythmfield yeah yeah, whatever, and its "Fagen" for God's sake.
@themainproblem
@themainproblem 9 жыл бұрын
Donald is a perfect example of musical genius. Nothing less.
@johnroberts6327
@johnroberts6327 8 жыл бұрын
Man i wish i wouldve kept up reading chord charts as i progressed!i was in too big of a hurry!he speaks a foriegn tongue about music in general.this stuff has ryhme and reason!classic!
@tommymartinelli6043
@tommymartinelli6043 7 жыл бұрын
John Roberts it is never too late to learn the nuisances of musical theory. Believe you me, I am late bloomer.
@kathmandoo
@kathmandoo 7 жыл бұрын
thema Yes he is at genius level. His partners were so close as well. An amazing band
@willritter4076
@willritter4076 7 жыл бұрын
I'd be honored if some Steely Dan fans would check out my acoustic piano & vocal cover of the Michael McDonald/Kenny Loggins composition HEART TO HEART on my channel. Real live acoustic with no autotune. Thanks and please excuse the promo.
@terrancehyde6552
@terrancehyde6552 7 жыл бұрын
I agree !!
@deshawna.larkin7195
@deshawna.larkin7195 7 жыл бұрын
Any major dude can tell you.
@raybrown1725
@raybrown1725 6 жыл бұрын
Any Maj7b5 dude can tell you.
@GabeKMusic
@GabeKMusic 5 жыл бұрын
@@raybrown1725 that chord is so eerie I love it. Play the minor 9 a half step below and it sounds great (Em9, FMaj7b5)
@bessmahaneypilates8638
@bessmahaneypilates8638 4 жыл бұрын
DESHAWN A. LARKIN love that song too!
@dorothydottiebo1432
@dorothydottiebo1432 4 жыл бұрын
haaaaa that's funny :D
@bkkersey93
@bkkersey93 4 жыл бұрын
WILL tell you.
@colinpoitras8769
@colinpoitras8769 9 жыл бұрын
I play piano, guitar and drums, and this guy is so fucking smart its nuts. Becker and Fagan are so clever and beyond most everyone else that when I see this, I wonder why I bother. How many bands could have as many hits as these guys, while essentially playing complex jazz? Great band that has always been smarter than everyone else, and they know it.
@joejazz67
@joejazz67 9 жыл бұрын
+colin poitras I know simply amazing
@AndyBigDaddyWilkinson
@AndyBigDaddyWilkinson 8 жыл бұрын
+colin poitras "Great band that has always been smarter than everyone else, and they know it." and we know it , too.....When I first started playing guitar , many years ago.....I bought a Dan songbook,,.... I was looking at the progressions , chord structure and fingering and came to the conclusion that I needed one more hand with 7 fingers on it.
@blazemordly9746
@blazemordly9746 8 жыл бұрын
+colin poitras I get your point and i agree, but I bet you got a 'Peg' in you somewhere too. Compare yourself to yourself day to day & write a new classic...God knows we could use some. SD rocks!!!
@chookin1
@chookin1 8 жыл бұрын
+colin poitras You said it. When I first bought Cant Buy a Thrill way back in the seventies it blew my mind. So diverse, so complex but somehow it always resolves perfect. I'm still trying to perfect the solo intro for Dont Take Me Alive!!
@micronautical
@micronautical 8 жыл бұрын
Totally! I remember years ago when I FINALLY figured out the voicings Walt and Don wrote (I worked by ear... no song book or youtube). I was overjoyed... So smart yet soulful and elegant (not me; the chords, of course). That struggle made me a much better musician. I love how the movement from single notes E to D occurs in both the G to C progression and the F to C. (Then it steps up to F# to E for the G to D shift... Str8 BUTTER!) And those notes sound utterly DOPE on the gently phased Clavinet in the studio/album recording. Don Grolnick played, I think? A perfect song. (And, as if it wasn't bad-ass enough, Mike McDonald hits those backup vocals... Damn....)
@darkhalo0868
@darkhalo0868 7 жыл бұрын
As a novice I have NO IDEA what he's talking about.. I just love the finished product.
@davidcarroll1883
@davidcarroll1883 5 жыл бұрын
Just listen to what he is saying. Open your mind!
@timesquare5473
@timesquare5473 Күн бұрын
@@davidcarroll1883 Welcome Hyde
@duanewilson3941
@duanewilson3941 5 жыл бұрын
Regarding Steely Dan songs, anyone else turn the volume up as the songs faded out just to hear what they were playing?
@Ryan-rzx3
@Ryan-rzx3 4 жыл бұрын
Everytime
@steelyfan7745
@steelyfan7745 4 жыл бұрын
yes!!!
@HeardItOnTheX
@HeardItOnTheX 3 жыл бұрын
They do have the best fade outs in the history of recorded music.
@danl.909
@danl.909 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, to hear Skunk Baxter’s gnarly fills in the fade on “My Old School.”
@duanewilson3941
@duanewilson3941 3 жыл бұрын
@@danl.909 Those were fabulous.
@hoodooskidoo
@hoodooskidoo 14 жыл бұрын
Warren Bernhardt is hardly clueless. He studied with Bill Evans and his thorough knowledge of jazz is probably one of the reasons he was Steely Dan's musical director on many of their tours.
@thebreathalyzer
@thebreathalyzer 6 жыл бұрын
Agree, Warren was probably just being low key about it, allowing Don to explain everything. Warren is a fantastic musician and played with everybody, he knows his stuff inside and out.
@chrissink3605
@chrissink3605 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebreathalyzer He probably knew the tunes better than Fagen in some ways.
@jefflatten9321
@jefflatten9321 Жыл бұрын
I knew Warren personally in upstate NY, and he is hardly clueless. He was doing out stuff long ago. Very knowledgeable and humble.
@krisscanlon4051
@krisscanlon4051 5 ай бұрын
Oh yeah
@nicobeing
@nicobeing 10 жыл бұрын
I realized how musically stupid I am when I watched this video. This guy knows things....that I just don't. I'm going to practice now....forever.
@VonSteinhofer
@VonSteinhofer 6 жыл бұрын
That's the best thing up can do, especially when you feel like you don't know very much , right now. Donald Fagen didn't either when he started, but he studied and practiced and started writing songs and playing with other musicians. And he stuck with it and got lucky.
@scottkasper6378
@scottkasper6378 5 жыл бұрын
So, five years later how do you feel?
@PhillipLandmeier
@PhillipLandmeier 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I've been playing piano and pipe organ for almost 60 years, and while I understand everything he's saying, the ability to create this kind of breathtaking beauty still escapes me.
@MagnificoGiganticus
@MagnificoGiganticus 5 жыл бұрын
Partially inspiring and partially discouraging.
@topperroth2782
@topperroth2782 4 жыл бұрын
Practicing is good, but one also needs to study so that one can understand the concepts and sounds of, for example, major, minor, sixths, sevenths, triads, etc.
@salchaos
@salchaos 8 жыл бұрын
A genius explains his artistry. Fagen is a monster.
@lindabarnett8851
@lindabarnett8851 8 жыл бұрын
agreed
@minermike61
@minermike61 6 жыл бұрын
One of the very few that I can still listen to and it doesn’t sound dated or stale.
@machinenkanone9358
@machinenkanone9358 6 жыл бұрын
But do you hear the Hasidic chromatic progressions ?
@minermike61
@minermike61 6 жыл бұрын
Really? What might I listen to for comparison? I can't say that I know Jewish music so I have no basis to start with.
@machinenkanone9358
@machinenkanone9358 6 жыл бұрын
BagdadBill burt bacharach. Chicago.
@nitedrive2956
@nitedrive2956 15 жыл бұрын
I cannot play piano and don't intend to learn. But I sat and watched the entire clip. Fascinating to watch this guy explain how they came up with this tune. Love Steely Dan, especially the entire Aja album. Never gets old. Will remain a classic for generations.
@starjunkie2804
@starjunkie2804 5 жыл бұрын
This group had such an unmistakeably unique sound. Hit after hit. But not only is Fagen an accomplished musician, but his voice, to me, always drove the songs. His voice compliments what is being played almost like a whole new mysterious instrument. But an instrument unique only to Steely Dan.
@cameron_fairchild
@cameron_fairchild Жыл бұрын
Perfectly stated. He's very soulful and inimitable.
@mistersparkle
@mistersparkle 9 жыл бұрын
If anyone watching this is just the least bit unsure of what "genius" is, you're looking at it (and listening to it).
@RedactedNews
@RedactedNews 3 жыл бұрын
Watching genius in action. Show your kids this video. My 10-year-old son plays now. Making him watch this.
@Cameron5540
@Cameron5540 Жыл бұрын
Bad parenting 101
@analogkid4557
@analogkid4557 Жыл бұрын
Love RedactedNews!
@andore8639
@andore8639 Жыл бұрын
Let him enjoy baby shark lol, what a boring childhood
@TwilightCalzone
@TwilightCalzone 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that he casually refers to '50s blues ballads and bebop turnarounds when dissecting the song reveals his knowledge of music history/context. Great video.
@1who4me
@1who4me 9 ай бұрын
It’s why current musicians suck. They don’t teach history at all.
@FreeSpeechWarrior
@FreeSpeechWarrior 6 ай бұрын
You need to listen to the interview of Donald Fagen by Paul Shaffer. Donald and Walter got their start by playing backup for a doo-wop band. He tells the whole story to Paul in this interview while playing piano. All the details of the early days are in this interview.
@marcusallen7358
@marcusallen7358 9 жыл бұрын
A glimpse inside the mind of a musical genius.Peg is on the surface Steely's most Pop like song.However every play reveals more and more layers of musical creativity.I love the Be-Bop turnaround in the chorus.
@judyholt7962
@judyholt7962 6 жыл бұрын
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@willthacker5182
@willthacker5182 8 жыл бұрын
Becker & Fagen had to be one of the best song writing duos of their generation. Watching them explain their process & seeing the making of Aja documentary, just prooves how genius their work was. Each of them are great in their own right, but as a pair, they're phenomenal. While not as commercially viable, I believe they're right up there with the likes of Lennon & Mccartney. Love Steely Dan or hate them, their song writing ability & muscianship is legendary imo.
@vanillagorilla8236
@vanillagorilla8236 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite Behind the Music.
@surfinganddancing1609
@surfinganddancing1609 Жыл бұрын
While not as "commercially viable", Steely Dan still sold 40 million albums!
@stevewiegand6442
@stevewiegand6442 Жыл бұрын
Better
@jaymike3302
@jaymike3302 Жыл бұрын
@@stevewiegand6442 Definitely better. The Beatles came first...but this is better music.
@kenbob1071
@kenbob1071 Жыл бұрын
@@surfinganddancing1609 They got my money.
@TruthSurge
@TruthSurge 7 жыл бұрын
and to think the whole chord prog was just 12 bar blues. wow. I never caught that till now.
@edwardlagrossa1246
@edwardlagrossa1246 4 жыл бұрын
The chorus was 12 bar blues.
@jeremiahsullivan7834
@jeremiahsullivan7834 3 жыл бұрын
You don't hear it until he pointed it out , however even then, it still doesn't sound too much like it . He did it differently
@ryanperry3854
@ryanperry3854 3 жыл бұрын
I think he took that 12 bar blues behind the woodshed for an “adjustment on attitude”. Lol. Pure genius
@marksimmons7906
@marksimmons7906 2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy how his talking voice sounds like David Duchovny, then his singing voice has this awesome raspy fry to it. What a chemist of chords... Never gets old.
@zacharym59
@zacharym59 12 жыл бұрын
I can't play or even read music but seeing the architecture and construction of Peg has made me appreciate it all the more. I don't like everything by Steely Dan but there is no arguing that they were ruthless perfectionists who really laboured to get it exactly right. Very cool! Thanks for uploading.
@MarvMattison
@MarvMattison Ай бұрын
That's exactly how I feel about them. I still play their greatest hits CD a lot. Rikki don't lose that numbaaaaaaaa
@roberthavard4219
@roberthavard4219 8 жыл бұрын
Fagen is truly a musical genius. His use of some many interesting tonal elements (quartal voicings and altered dominates that just slide into a beautifully voiced major chord...etc) is unheard of in rock music. He used the very best session players of his day to make these masterpieces. Just awesome!
@heythere135
@heythere135 3 жыл бұрын
Clicked on this thinking I was going to get another "the making of Peg" talking about different musicians and lyrics. Instead I was given a music theory lesson behind Peg. I'm blown away at how freaking smart Donald Fagen is.
@PeteC75
@PeteC75 8 жыл бұрын
He's completely on another level. There is no other way to describe it.
@Youman71463
@Youman71463 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant post, brilliant songwriter! Notice how he always gives credit to "we", we did this, we wanted that - Walter was his perfect musical partner - "I learned music from a book on piano theory. I was only interested in knowing about chords. From that, and from the Harvard Dictionary of Music, I learned everything I wanted to know." ~ Walter Becker RIP
@mjquatro6294
@mjquatro6294 6 жыл бұрын
Man With the golden Arm
@grumblekin
@grumblekin 2 жыл бұрын
The reason Steely Dan is so popular and has been for so long is the real attention to craft. Every song is meticulously assembled yet flexible and the engineering/recording is surgically precise. It's like those Japanese temples that are built without nails yet withstand quakes and typhoons.
@steelyman08
@steelyman08 Жыл бұрын
And yet remained accessible to those like myself who simply appreciate great music without understanding the technicalities involved.
@vampyre4me
@vampyre4me Жыл бұрын
That's an excellent analogy!
@jyellowhammer
@jyellowhammer Жыл бұрын
Also extremely well said sir.
@steelyman08
@steelyman08 Жыл бұрын
And yes, beautifully put. Your analogy took my mind straight to the cover of Aja. 🙂
@artofsoul
@artofsoul 5 жыл бұрын
I have always loved Steely Dan but I did not realize their genius until now. These guys are amazing and inspire me to this day.
@BunneRabb
@BunneRabb 9 жыл бұрын
It's not often that clinicians produce amazingly engaging music, but these cats hit it.
@hermanhelmich
@hermanhelmich 7 жыл бұрын
Bunne Rabb true, they always know to grab you, isn't it?
@m9ck3er69
@m9ck3er69 6 жыл бұрын
Bunne Rabb
@marilyntape508
@marilyntape508 6 жыл бұрын
Bunne Rabb i dig those cats😸😸🌈
@nashira4673
@nashira4673 5 жыл бұрын
Clinicians sounds cold though. Call them master craftsmen instead and it maybe doesn’t seem as unlikely that they would and do hit it often and with precision
@BGTuyau
@BGTuyau 2 ай бұрын
Astute observation ...
@MichaelSprehe
@MichaelSprehe 13 жыл бұрын
I think its pretty phenomenal that an artist sits down and walks through the song construction process and music theory.....motivates me to buckle down and learn it!
@xxczerxx
@xxczerxx Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this clip about 5 years ago and having no clue what he was talking about. It feels amazing to watch it now and go "oh yeah!"
@navasaband
@navasaband 2 жыл бұрын
Fagen’s depth of musical knowledge astounds.
@cameron_fairchild
@cameron_fairchild Жыл бұрын
I mean for an English Lit. major he is astoundingly knowledgeable on music theory. I could watch 8 hours of this.
@jeffdawson2786
@jeffdawson2786 4 жыл бұрын
Aja is a rock/fusion milestone. They have a lot of great songs, but that album is the closest thing to unified studio perfection there is.
@tested211
@tested211 4 жыл бұрын
true...some of the greatest songwriting played by some of the greatest musicians in an era where analogue recording was about as good as recording has ever gotten. The great thing is it doesn't sound stiff...despite the obvious perfectionism around the whole thing they managed to keep a loose vibe to everything - amazing!
@stratinolampino
@stratinolampino 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard they intentionally perfected and embellished the album to the closest to perfection they could make it. It is the only album that I call perfect.
@TruthSurge
@TruthSurge 7 жыл бұрын
2:49 wow. The B to G movement there is so nice. Maj 7 to add 9. pretty brill.
@jackhammer111
@jackhammer111 3 жыл бұрын
and the 4ths
@elementrypenguin3116
@elementrypenguin3116 3 жыл бұрын
A musical genius!
@Trent-tr2nx
@Trent-tr2nx 3 жыл бұрын
@@jackhammer111 "show me that stack"
@michaelsapoznik5984
@michaelsapoznik5984 Жыл бұрын
I feel like a 6 year-old watching Jeopardy. But I love this!
@golds04
@golds04 2 жыл бұрын
Such a profoundly prolific wonderful composer- and- under appreciated- singer. Thanks Donald. Rip Walter.
@gibsondrummer
@gibsondrummer 5 жыл бұрын
Operating on a higher level than almost everyone else , making it look so incredibly easy when its so incredibly difficult, are guys like him and the musicians he surrounds himself with , breathtaking to watch them perform live
@alexbanks8429
@alexbanks8429 10 жыл бұрын
Damn you youtube, I have be up for an 18 hour workday in a few hours...
@winterparkmark5014
@winterparkmark5014 6 жыл бұрын
lol
@vladimirputin8094
@vladimirputin8094 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@FootballNebraska
@FootballNebraska 11 жыл бұрын
Saw him in Kansas City 2 nights ago and he was one of the coolest people I've ever seen! First time I've ever seen Steely Dan...it was a great show.
@me1onhead
@me1onhead 15 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. All Dan fans pretty much know how cerebral Walt and Don are, but this shows the wider audience just how great they really are.
@AllenPinchloaf
@AllenPinchloaf 6 жыл бұрын
I think in a thousand years Donald's music will still be a high water mark.Musicians will hold it in the highest regards.Intelligent songwriting combined with intelligent playing.The Duke Ellington of Rock
@nv1493
@nv1493 3 жыл бұрын
When I was growing up I thought they were different and good. As I got older I realized the genius and craftsmanship that want into their music. Brilliant.
@garywhite3264
@garywhite3264 3 жыл бұрын
Steely Dan was among the most captivating sounds of that era, and just kept evolving and developing with each new project. The riffs play in my head to this day (even though I'm mostly deaf at 72).
@Jnt2252
@Jnt2252 3 жыл бұрын
This band is my heart and soul. I listen to Steely Dan just about everyday their music has gotten me thru so tough times In my life. I’ve seen them 8 times and they are awesome.
@bobdobalina838
@bobdobalina838 2 жыл бұрын
Hand-crafted music the likes of which you just dont hear anymore. Beautiful. Thanks Steely Dan.
@GTX1123
@GTX1123 10 жыл бұрын
Donald Fagan = Musical Genius
@mainmajo
@mainmajo 8 жыл бұрын
Nothing to discuss here. Some things cant do be better. He plays straight in my heart. Thank you for showing.
@courtneymoody9100
@courtneymoody9100 11 жыл бұрын
mad scientist of music!! jazz+blues+rock+gospel+funk+R&B = STEELY DAN!
@sharpasaneraser
@sharpasaneraser 11 жыл бұрын
gawd, what a legacy this brilliant duo leaves behind. some people are given an unjustifiably obscene amount of talent, but we're all richer for it. thanks, guys...just don't charge so much at the gate.
@markmoore8631
@markmoore8631 11 жыл бұрын
You keyboardists out there understand you're learning at the feet of a master , I'm sure. Me , I'm practically in tears.
@pwkpilot
@pwkpilot 11 жыл бұрын
Donald Fagen. There are so many words to describe his genius.......... He wrote one of the best pop songs ever in PEG. I would have loved to have been in the studio watching them record this! [although close to a year would have been a long ass time LOL]
@patsfan4life
@patsfan4life 5 жыл бұрын
pwkpilot Peg is just one of so many creative pieces....
@CorePathway
@CorePathway Жыл бұрын
It’s the perfect pop song.
@seaofmadness2622
@seaofmadness2622 2 жыл бұрын
I loved steely Dan since I was fourteen 47 years later I see them in concert for the first time lol let me tell you if they play out again DONT miss it! Incredible performance! I'm sad I didn't get to see Walter play..RIP Walter! 😢 🌺 But Donald and all the rest were just incredible! We saw them at the Hartford Health Care Amphitheater in Bridgeport Connecticut in June of this year. A really cool place there too!😎🎊🎹🎷🎺🪄🎻🎸🎤🎶🎵🎶
@IanLevin
@IanLevin Жыл бұрын
I’m 15 now. A couple months ago when I was 14 I had the pleasure of seeing them. it was a must see performance
@rjmprod
@rjmprod 6 жыл бұрын
Fagen is so versed in music theory and knowledgeable on so many styles....He is truly genius...!
@hifijohn
@hifijohn 8 жыл бұрын
I love musicians go into this type of detail about their songs.
@trailrunner919
@trailrunner919 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah man…genius and master song writer along with Walter Becker!!!
@TheNesbittExperience
@TheNesbittExperience 5 жыл бұрын
i just made a groovy little tap dance to this song! i've always loved it! thanks for sharing this film!
@richardbuse228
@richardbuse228 2 жыл бұрын
As a guitar player I would be totally intimidated by being in a session with these guys. THe chord progressions alone are pure genius.
@fulltweedjacket5261
@fulltweedjacket5261 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing - I've played for 20 years and if I was in the same room with the guy I'd be too afraid to get the thing out of the damn case.
@abrarahmed1888
@abrarahmed1888 Жыл бұрын
Unless I suppose you’re Larry Carlton for whom the duo had utmost respect and who was tasked to orchestrate and create the charts for the session musicians
@AlicedeTocqueville
@AlicedeTocqueville Жыл бұрын
Oh, yeah! Forgot about him!
@snoopstp4189
@snoopstp4189 Жыл бұрын
major blues, with stacked 4th, and a wild modal "bebop turn around" as he calls it, at the bridge, it's actual not all that complex and really pretty simple, that's the pure genius of it.
@fmgallien
@fmgallien 7 жыл бұрын
''Then we move onto some other chords that depart a little bit from what we have so far'' I noticed, Don. Learning your tunes is hell. Thanks for everything
@adambrown217
@adambrown217 10 жыл бұрын
Thats actually Ben Stiller. Top notch acting right there.
@mike129995
@mike129995 10 жыл бұрын
He looks like Ben Stiller crossed with Andy Samberg.
@kevingeorge5159
@kevingeorge5159 7 жыл бұрын
Adam brown Ben folds maybe
@hodgeknobbler9848
@hodgeknobbler9848 7 жыл бұрын
Lou Reed too
@tiluriso
@tiluriso 6 жыл бұрын
Stiller meets Eddie Deezen. (Eugene from the movie 'Grease')
@thomasmartin4281
@thomasmartin4281 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Jeff goldblum
@brandonduguay539
@brandonduguay539 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful. Thank you for sharing!
@KasusEpykMusykII
@KasusEpykMusykII Жыл бұрын
*The great Donald Fagen, a real musical genius.* I love Steely Dan's albums.
@rogerjrusa
@rogerjrusa 6 жыл бұрын
You guys are music Gods. I thank you and shall continue worshipping Steely Dan. Amen.
@lindar.4882
@lindar.4882 7 жыл бұрын
RIP Walter Becker 2017.
@dorothydottiebo1432
@dorothydottiebo1432 4 жыл бұрын
how did I not know this? I just saw them in I think 2016 or 15 maybe in Austin? Thank you for posting. My life is forever changed. God bless him. He was so funny on stage. He told a whole story like you were in his livingroom. I'm glad I have that memory.
@Katy51844
@Katy51844 11 жыл бұрын
Sandra - I've given up trying to make sense of Steely Dan's songs. I just listen and sing along.
@GameLevelEditor
@GameLevelEditor 13 жыл бұрын
As a guitarist I can appreciate his level of knowledge its so innovative and intelligent.
@clacclackerson3678
@clacclackerson3678 6 жыл бұрын
Love it. Interestingly, he says the first G chord is open, but the 3rd IS there, it's just that it's in the bass. The plagal bass line going CCB is one of the elements that really make this song.
@johnjeffery6638
@johnjeffery6638 5 жыл бұрын
Very candid observations.
@OZRIC1985
@OZRIC1985 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant chord changes. Ever since I first heard the Aja album in 1977 I liked every song on it. I really like "Peg" for it's lively tempo and all the really cool parts of it! The guitar solo really fit the song perfectly too. Of course having Michael McDonald's vocal harmonies on it really helped to make it the great song that it is. I know they went through several guitar players before they found the one (Jay Graydon) who could pull off a solo that fit the song so well. :)
@lesleynoelle7337
@lesleynoelle7337 8 жыл бұрын
I love that Donald Fagan gave us these! What a blast!
@vincefisher9907
@vincefisher9907 5 жыл бұрын
Love how he explains the verse chords,so damn cool ,my favorite from Steely Dan.
@Mudge07
@Mudge07 7 жыл бұрын
Of all Donald's supposed and actual personal traits, he is thoroughly engaged and sincerely engaging in this discussion. It's the gift of B & F genius that makes this upbeat song more than just a ditty, rather it is a true composition. A very open breakdown of each component and the thinking behind the chord selection. A little in-depth for the casual listener, many intriguing mentions of those theory elements which distinguish this tune from a standard e.g. 3, 6, 2, 5. On to Part 2 folks!
@george.s.8491
@george.s.8491 6 жыл бұрын
Donald Fagen is the man! Very unique individual and his singing voice is one of a kind.
@scottperine8027
@scottperine8027 Жыл бұрын
Donald and Walter got me through high school with a mellow boldness and walk.
@lyndamcardle4123
@lyndamcardle4123 7 жыл бұрын
I believe a lot of us can follow his "plagal cadence", his "stack of fourths" and his "no thirds".....it's when he gets further into the meat and the bones into that you suddenly realise how technically superior these two musicians are and why they would want to push the boundaries of excellence they wanted to pursue. Hats off to both of them .. not forgetting Roger Nichols and Gary Katz ........
@kirkcekada5637
@kirkcekada5637 6 жыл бұрын
'Peg' is in my top ten of personal favorite songs. Great feel good song!
@ahyaok100
@ahyaok100 8 жыл бұрын
Who said knowing theory kills creativity?
@lynxminx4
@lynxminx4 8 жыл бұрын
Nobody who knows theory.
@StreetHierarchy
@StreetHierarchy 7 жыл бұрын
that's just an excuse to put off learning theory
@fbagli22
@fbagli22 6 жыл бұрын
Foundation
@PhillipLandmeier
@PhillipLandmeier 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's total nonsense. Knowing music theory ENABLES you to use it to create the sound and effects you want.
@acepaul407
@acepaul407 4 жыл бұрын
People who do not know theory usually have a very limited vocabulary and usually end up repeating themselves. Ever notice that? Same chords, same progressions, same melodies, same key, same inversions. Their creativity tends to dry up really quick.
@mrreemann3739
@mrreemann3739 10 ай бұрын
Donald Fagen come back! The world needs you! I never thought about Peg as blues but he makes sense. It is a plagal cadence too! Wow.
@sonniestrong5598
@sonniestrong5598 5 жыл бұрын
This clip gave me chills, and their multiplying
@stephenriggs8177
@stephenriggs8177 Жыл бұрын
My favorite Steely Dan song! Love the breakdown.
@ClarenceHW
@ClarenceHW 10 жыл бұрын
He didn't mention that the bass lands on the 3rd C to B instead of C to G, that's a huge part of the sound....
@pulykamell
@pulykamell 7 жыл бұрын
True. It's a pretty typical jazz voicing for pianists -- you leave out the root and let the bassist take care of it.
@mikeonfreeserve2926
@mikeonfreeserve2926 7 жыл бұрын
See someone is payin tention
@nameguy101
@nameguy101 6 жыл бұрын
The only reason peg was a hit is that the bassist didn't follow their retarded instructions to play the third. If he hadn't slapped that fucking root this tune would have been infinitely too esoteric for the fucking normie horde.
@Keepgoing42
@Keepgoing42 6 жыл бұрын
Clarence Wooten really...not every jazz bassist has to hit that 3rd
@1e0s
@1e0s 6 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking that!
@sunshine009ification
@sunshine009ification 7 жыл бұрын
Donald Fagen, one of the greats for sure! I was at my piano the other day wondering what the chords were for this song with it's unique sound, then I run across this video. Thanks for the tutorial Mr. Fagen!
@HeardItOnTheX
@HeardItOnTheX 3 жыл бұрын
Don and Walters intelligence shines in these sorts of arrangements so much. They didn’t even discuss the intro, but to tie the descending “mu-major” intro whilst introducing the successive timbres into the song and setting up the groove is so genius. Then it kicks in as a major jazz blues built on the plagal cadence on top of the cheekiest and sleaziest 70s LA studio groove. How could you not love this band?
@NeverTalkToCops1
@NeverTalkToCops1 Жыл бұрын
Billy Gibbons just heard what you said. You know what happened next.
@MrHobo71
@MrHobo71 Жыл бұрын
@@NeverTalkToCops1 beer drinkin' and hell raisin'?
@reggiebellamy7112
@reggiebellamy7112 6 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite Steely Dan songs. I love Donald's insight into creative process behind the song.
@blueshorecreative3146
@blueshorecreative3146 2 жыл бұрын
The more you learn about Fagen and Becker, the deeper you see into the songs, that they were constructed, engineered as near as perfect to their ears. The great hooks and listenable songs didn't come easy. Fagen's study in jazz gave him a great playground to write eclectic and accessible tunes that will endure until the earth explodes. BTW, I have no idea what he is talking about, but I love the way it sounds. 💯% GOLD
@davidwhite2949
@davidwhite2949 9 ай бұрын
The amazing thing is he gets all the theory. All the chord construction. But he puts it together in the most tasty way And then he takes the whole thing and creates hits.
@ryno2323
@ryno2323 6 жыл бұрын
Some musicians inspire me to pick up an instrument and others make me think "why bother" ....Steely Dan is for listening because they just cannot be imitated.
@PhillipLandmeier
@PhillipLandmeier 5 жыл бұрын
Imitated, no, but the Dan definitely inspires me to pick up one of my instruments and play it.
@LasseC58
@LasseC58 8 жыл бұрын
A total genius in work. Outstanding! Thanks for this lesson!
@Andy-pu2iv
@Andy-pu2iv 4 жыл бұрын
I have no idea what they're talking about. But, damn, I love it.
@jaysilverheals4445
@jaysilverheals4445 6 жыл бұрын
what a fuckin genius. To realize now after so many decades what went into those songs.
@krlm2280
@krlm2280 5 жыл бұрын
Fagen and Becker are goats they inspired alot of hip hop producers too these guys are legends RIP Mr becker
@wwonka52
@wwonka52 Жыл бұрын
Saw them about 12 years ago. Worth the wait!
@DavidYonke
@DavidYonke 11 жыл бұрын
Simply brilliant, and yet the song is accessible to everyone. I love the way Fagan nonchalantly offers his insights into incredibly complex creative decisions. I hope this makes people appreciate SD a little more. But I have to agree with sharpasaneraser's comment that ticket prices are ridiculously high.
@boirlesnow
@boirlesnow 15 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lesson. I learned it last night and I'm very happy. I played along with Donald and now I'm a success!
@mimsnshine
@mimsnshine 3 жыл бұрын
Fagen is so down to earth and does the demo with modesty a true genius ...peg has always been a fantastic steely dan tune off aja
@egx161
@egx161 Жыл бұрын
Fagen & Becker et al, are perfect examples of talented musicians that dedicated themselves and worked very hard. Practicing every day while everyone else was having fun. It’s called sacrifice and dedication, and that is part of their genius.
@joe-vz6hx
@joe-vz6hx 7 жыл бұрын
love this stuff, I wish we had about 100 more videos like this of their stuff and him talking about it..and so appreciative of the bird's eye view of the keys, THANK YOU whoever had that idea! this (non-music reading) hack now can say he knows how to play Peg, and learned it from the man himself. now if only I could improv like that. (PS this looks old....80s?)
@arcaliasgiants9813
@arcaliasgiants9813 5 жыл бұрын
Every time I hear him put it together (2:50) , it makes me smile
@alexmortland
@alexmortland 13 жыл бұрын
Here's the deal with theory: You study study study it, and then you never think about it again (except in the process of explaining things, as seen here). It's like learning a language. Once you've learned it, you don't conciously think "in this next sentence, I'm going to say 'my', followed by 'name', followed by 'is', etc"..... it just sorta comes out. If you're soloing over G7, your brain doesn't say "either a blues scale or a mixolydian would be nice here", it just comes out.
@tobymcgroby8967
@tobymcgroby8967 5 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, I think you nailed it. I've been wondering how to summarize this but you beat me to it, by 8 full years lmao.. My thoughts were that seeing this makes you feel like it's hopeless if you aren't at his level, but instead you should feel compelled to study & practice until it becomes part of you. If you're near his level, I'm sure it's gonna be a completely different take lol but that's beyond me. Thank you👍
@kencrass5059
@kencrass5059 11 жыл бұрын
Just saw SD play in Milwaukee. Donald and Walter have assembled the most talented group of musicians to ever grace a stage. I agree with the other posters here who are simply glad to be alive to see the talents of this remarkable musician.
@onlinerecords
@onlinerecords 11 жыл бұрын
Total magic when he puts it all together at 4.05!
@joe-vz6hx
@joe-vz6hx 6 жыл бұрын
Love this and amazed it was ever made. I know there are a few more of these on youtube but I wish he'd done a LOT more. Hell like for every song they ever wrote. I mean every one. Cmon "Soul Ram" what's up w/that? ;-)
@Cookie54ize
@Cookie54ize 6 жыл бұрын
I saw him a couple of weeks ago, sadly no Walter Becker but still a great show.
@avpdallas
@avpdallas 5 жыл бұрын
Often imitated...never replicated...one of the greatest songs...
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