Traxxas copy? Detailed comparison of Austar AX8560 and TRX-4M

[@reyesgonzalez1816]

Otra extraordinaria clase de como deben hacerse bien las cosas. Gracias por tus aportaciones. Espero que puedas mostrarnos actualizaciones/modificaciones del Austar, pues creo que con pocos trabajos, puede llegar a estar entre los tres mejores rastreadores 1/18 del momento. Gracias

[@usbsol]

Did you see that if you plug the lights in at the 'leftover' spot on the receiver/esc you get crawler mode? 🤯 And it works - I just tried it 👍

[@donaldsneffe]

No - have to try - am actually travelling, will test after November 20th - very interesting.

[@usbsol]

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[@usbsol]

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[@cyberkotletov5968]

Has someone tried it?

[@JD-tl7ld]

The case could be made for the more expensive Traxxas for their customer and aftermarket support. I am currently building a Meus Ripper based on the TRXM4 and the aftermarket support is pretty good. Not as good as Axial, but still good. If you needed support for the Austar you might be on your own to fab up some sort of solution.

[@sameold77]

Got mine yesterday. I really like it but the lack of crawler mode and the super slow reverse speed is a bummer. Given the great modulation, it is a shame that we will have to change electronics to get crawler mode and a proper reverse speed. Thanks again!

[@LEVARIOMIKE]

I got mine today, and it goes faster in reverse at every speed. Low ,med. Hi. It's goes faster and faster. Sorry yours isn't doing that.

[@sameold77]

Yes, reverse does get faster at half throttle for each speed. But reverse is waaayy too slow in all speeds. Level 1 reverse speed barely moves the truck. The lack of crawler mode sucks too.

[@raymondwendt6205]

Thanks for the comparison. I ordered one after watching your first video. Bummer about the body. Wonder about the defender. I transformed my TRX-4M defender with the tarantula kit from Injora. Have leftover parts. Shocks are for sure going on the Austar. Number of tires to play with and the Traxxas trailer. Gonna be a hodgepodge of parts. Should be fun. Lol.

[@donaldsneffe]

Body will probably fit. You'll proabably have to tinker around a bit with mountings. But if you'll take correct bumpers, why shouldn't it fit? Wheelbase fits perfectly.

[@sebo-Kids-RC]

​@@donaldsneffeis the same like Defender and Bronco Body Swap, you need to switch the bumper... than it will fit.

[@MostlyRCSlovakia]

Again, great video comparing the details, keep them coming :0 thanks for that.

[@nickgodwin9423]

My Austar just showed up pretty stoked about it but it has different tires which I’m not totally thrilled about

[@badeyes83]

I bought a Bronco not even a year ago, I think March, and I paid 226 after taxes at my local hobby shop Canadian. If I would have seen this and known how basically every part minus the motor and ESC is interchangeable I would have gone with this instead of buying the new high trail just about a month and a half ago

[@Hjerte_Verke]

Sell it and buy this.

[@badeyes83]

Already have bought it and started to modify it

[@BONEZ-8]

Curious if shaving down that trigger block on the transmitter would give the reverse function a little more punch, or is it limited by the esc. Maybe reverse the motor direction and see if it changes the reverse power.

[@donaldsneffe]

I have to test this (reverse throttle), did not do it so far. To my knowledge this is ESC programming and not a matter of radio.

[@LEVARIOMIKE]

I got mine today, and I don't have those issues with mine. Mine goes faster in reverse at each switch of low med hi.

[@donaldsneffe]

@@LEVARIOMIKE Strange - maybe they changed it? Would be cool.

[@sameold77]

Another good one. Thanks for showing and comparing everything.

[@ximetcarbonell2733]

Es una locura, le quitas la bola de remolque, la rueda de repuesto y le pones 40g en el morro. Tienes un micro crawler super competitivo

[@SARATHSASIDHARAN12]

If we want to buy a 3 wire servo for AUSTAR ax8560 which might be best for Austar!!By the way thanks a lott for making detailed video on Austar

[@donaldsneffe]

All the Traxxas-fitting servos will fit. Hard to say which is best. Those startet as Traxxas TRX4 (not M) shifting servos, now also sold as "TRX-4M servos". Do not know which one is the best, guess I do have one from JX (?), it is ok. There are a lot on Ali, Banggood, Amazon, Injora, ....

[@SARATHSASIDHARAN12]

@@donaldsneffe Thankyou

[@nihilnihil7184]

Hi. Klasse Video. Wie ist die Federung zum traxxas? Was würdest du persönlich empfehlen?

[@donaldsneffe]

Danke. Die Dämpfer sind Schrott, so ziemlich das Schlechteste am sonst guten Auto. Die TRX-4M Dämpfer sind ja recht gut. Empfehlen tu ich die Injora Öl-Dämpfer für TRX-4M.

[@The_RC_Guru]

The low steering angle kills buying it for me. But it does seem worth it still.

[@sameold77]

Easy fix. Trim the bump stops.

[@JeepinMaxx]

I believe the Jeep body will fit the TRX4M will fit if you swap the bumpers/mounts too and vice versa. Just like you have to do with the Defender & bronco bodies on the TRX4M

[@donaldsneffe]

Yes, agree. It will fit if you take correct bumpers, there is no reason why not. However, Austar mounting clips are a bit different to the Traxxas ones.

[@LEVARIOMIKE]

On one of your videos, you said that the rc you're reviewing, not the trx4 the other one. You said the reverse was the same speed on all three speeds . I just got mine today, and mine goes faster in reverse at each level . Slow at low faster at medium and faster in high. I don't know if something is wrong with yours or what. But I thought I would let you know. Love your videos.

[@donaldsneffe]

Thank you. Do not know - others seem to have the same issue? And I think, 2FM RC mentioned the same issue, when he made the review of the Injora radio/motor combo for TRX-4M (the first one, some time ago, where he complained about the missing crawler mode), this is IMO the same electronics, that comes with the Austar. I have ordered a second one (from Ali, my first one is from Banggood); will see, if this is the same in my second one.

[@nate63892]

You could say traxxas copied panda hobby with that servo mount position. Did you have a eazyrc glacier/fms k10? Would these axles/tyres maybe gearbox with modification go ok with that truck

[@wineff499]

I bought the ax8560 and the differential was damaged I bought one of the metal trx4m will it work and fit in it?

[@donaldsneffe]

Yes

[@wineff499]

@@donaldsneffe I was afraid it wouldn't fit because the measurements are a few millimeters different or not at all?, thank you

[@donaldsneffe]

@@wineff499 I did not try, but in "my" forum people recommend to use the TRX-4M gears. Axles of the Austar are wider, but gears fit. At least people report, that Injora gears for TRX-4M fit the Austar, check here: www.rockcrawler.de/thread/52577-1-18-jeep-wrangler-crawler-anh%C3%A4nger-von-austar-austarhobby-ax8560/?pageNo=2 (probably you will not understand, but I do - they write, Injora gears fit).

[@xtrmbeast]

nice review. will check the austar..thnx 2 u! great

[@SARATHSASIDHARAN12]

In future if we want to change esc what kind of esc may be perfect for Austar?

[@donaldsneffe]

You will have to change electronics, if you wanna change ESC, so new radio and receiver. Check this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2PbnWqFp9OtjZI

[@SARATHSASIDHARAN12]

@@donaldsneffe Sure I I'll check it out!! Thankyou

[@wineff499]

Do the ax8560 gearbox bearings fit the TRX4M gearbox?

[@GarlicEnjoyer]

Sooo a question then, beacuse suspension links, shocks and diff gears are interchangeable, then the metal replacements made for trx4m from injora and brands like that will fit? (also ps. what hex is the will on austar? 7mm?)

[@donaldsneffe]

Yes and yes... mostly. Austar axles are wider, so metal steering link is different, central transmission is different.

[@albinn3569]

Cool to know, I think I've stripped the rear diff. Will order Traxxas diff gears!

[@GarlicEnjoyer]

@@donaldsneffe I know that steering link is wider by a small amout on the ax8560 (already prepared myself for that) but the other part seem that they are upgradable with trx4m part which is great Honestly this rc is a way better idea to buy and upgrade for the amout of money which you would pay for the trx4m alone lol

[@donaldsneffe]

@@GarlicEnjoyer Totally agree!

[@ellishazard8506]

Would any of you happen to know if you can swap trx4m chassis? Like could I do a tarantula or LCG build?

[@SARATHSASIDHARAN12]

Can u please name the tools which are used to open AUSTAR wheels and rest of the parts like servo gear box axle housing etc please!

[@donaldsneffe]

@donaldsneffe 5.5 mm nut driver for rear wheels (with very thin walls, because rims are kinda strange - but fine pointed pliers will do the job, too), 5 mm nut driver for front wheels, 1.5 mm hex driver, and for some (body) parts a small PH driver.

[@SARATHSASIDHARAN12]

@@donaldsneffe Thanks a lott!!One more thing when I take my auster reverse from steap it is making a cliking sound from the front housing!!When climbing up no issues when I take reverse from steap the krikk sound is coming wht may be the reason?

[@donaldsneffe]

@@SARATHSASIDHARAN12 Probably a damaged gear? Open housings. Many do have problems with plastic gears, in Austar and also TRX-4M. Maybe you will have to change, TRX-4M gears will fit.

[@donaldsneffe]

@@SARATHSASIDHARAN12 Addition: for front wheels you will need a 5 mm nut driver, the Austar does use different shafts for front and rear, front 2.5 mm and 5 mm nut, rear 3 mm and 5.5 mm nut.

[@SARATHSASIDHARAN12]

@@donaldsneffe Thankyou for the help 🥰

[@wineff499]

friend, can you help me with a question about the ax8560?, I bought the metal differentials because they break on the first day of use, I wanted to know if it has any other very fragile parts that break easily?, thank you!, Great video

[@donaldsneffe]

You probably should buy metal driveshafts one day. You can get the Austar metal shafts from Banggood and other TRX-M shafts from Ali for cheap. www.banggood.com/2PCS-AUSTAR-AX8560-Original-Metal-Drive-Shaft-RC-Car-Parts-p-2003719.html?ID=0&warehouse=CN&p=6S2910081756201209IA&custlinkid=3619190 s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_Dm3nSW9 I did buy them but did not use/mount those so far, because my stock ones still are ok. Better shocks (Injora) will also be a good upgrade.

[@wineff499]

@@donaldsneffe thanks!

[@mark-mj5dl]

Great video

[@dangrady2938]

Take off the springs of the Austar , and remove the nobby bits that limit the steering

[@rcbubututan]

Are the inner gears of the ax3560 gearbox the same as the trx4m

[@amazonas5934]

No

[@rcbubututan]

@@amazonas5934 ok thank's

[@julianweeks326]

hi, would the INJORA +4 trx4m axels fit the austar ?

[@donaldsneffe]

Guess those are the Injora +4 axles ;-)

[@corelx117]

I own both cars. The Austar looks in a lot details like an exact copy. The quality of the TRX4m in many aspects for me looks definately better. The Austar is good value for money , I agree. But being cheaper is easy, when you copy designs. If I had known this before, I would not have bought it!

[@banginbros4L]

Excellent video sir

[@rctraildriversuk-lone-wolfvide]

very good video

[@daniels_199]

I am shocked on your TRX-4M purchase! ;)

[@donaldsneffe]

I mehr als du ;-)

[@singhgamer06]

Is austra ax8560 is good for beginners

[@donaldsneffe]

Perfect

[@singhgamer06]

@@donaldsneffe pls tell what's the speed of this car.

[@donaldsneffe]

@@singhgamer06 It is a crawler, about walking speed

[@singhgamer06]

@@donaldsneffe thank you for the suggestions

[@5675492]

The AX8560 no longer comes with these tires - the new ones are skinnier harder and more generic seeming .

[@donaldsneffe]

OK, what a pitty. I do have 3, two from Banggood with those tires, and a grey one from Aliexpress with different tires. Those tires shown in the video are really quite good.

[@JörnZigelski]

Deine Videos sind super aber spreche bitte in deiner Muttersprache

[@bella0167]

🤔

[@mrgabrielmrcabral2001]

Perhaps Traxxas copied Austar?? Mind... blown!!

[@sharkey9]

Yaaay 25 FPS 😀

[@kylehawes4287]

Traxxas is one best crawlers ever Trx4m lol anyways okay I don't agree but ok.

[@rcexplore18]

Mini Bronco..Rc cars.

[@Fortes_RC_Adv]

It's not exactly a copy. For me is just a cheap crawler, 3 times cheaper than trx4m😉🤣

[@TheLilhulk1111]

I like traxxas but yes they are way over priced

[@JaceBradley-uv2sh]

i dislike how you said so many bad things about the trx4m, and i noticed so many downsides in the cheap one like the tire foam, the suspension, and the low-speed modulation, even though you said it was better than the tx4m, realistically the esc whining is not noticeable in the outdoors. i hope you understand. sincerely: traxxas fanboy

[@JT-6s]

Thank you for such a in-depth comparison! 🔎⚙🔩🔍 👏