Donetsk Creates an Independent Government: Russian Roulette

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10 жыл бұрын

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On the second day of the self-styled People's Republic of Donetsk's existence, people gathered in the Regional Administration Building to discuss their new government and make plans for the future. VICE News correspondent Simon Ostrovsky attended the meeting where things got a bit heated, and later interviewed Serhiy Taruta, the current governor of the Donetsk region. Taruta argued that those who declared independence from Ukraine have no authority to do so and are not supported by most residents of Donetsk. There's still about a month left before their supposed referendum, and the future of Donetsk is uncertain.
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@Sphynra
@Sphynra 10 жыл бұрын
They should make a Hangover spinoff based on this, where a bunch of ex-Ukrainians wake up one day surrounded by vodka bottles and puke stains and find out they've created a country.
@MrTC0815
@MrTC0815 10 жыл бұрын
lmao
@futurequagmire6199
@futurequagmire6199 5 жыл бұрын
I both hate and love this comment 😂 it would be a great movie but it sucks it's happening in ukraine
@user-et3zf6pe4d
@user-et3zf6pe4d 4 жыл бұрын
Ukraine was created this way
@zavtradnem
@zavtradnem 3 жыл бұрын
@@futurequagmire6199 Can you find Ukraine on the map?
@futurequagmire6199
@futurequagmire6199 3 жыл бұрын
@@zavtradnem I was born their so yeah
@franklerch1012
@franklerch1012 2 жыл бұрын
hard to imagine now but there was a time when this kind of real journalism was standard in the main media channels. now these reports feel like precious historical documents
@billsmoke4919
@billsmoke4919 Жыл бұрын
I'd archive these
@sunnymitra6372
@sunnymitra6372 Жыл бұрын
@@billsmoke4919 It's Interesting to know why Russia annexed these regions from Ukraine because these are Russian Speaking people and they will eventually support Russia.
@iidacerii711
@iidacerii711 Жыл бұрын
@@sunnymitra6372 And what would they achieve by joining russia?, Are they gonna get back everything they lost from the past 8 years?, what future can russia asure for this people under a dictatorship?, even when russia itself is underdeveloped and many regiosn are struggling, this is all pointless...
@sunnymitra6372
@sunnymitra6372 Жыл бұрын
@@iidacerii711 Atleast they would be able to Survive and afford cheap Gas unlike Europeans
@nataliaganshina6977
@nataliaganshina6977 Жыл бұрын
@@iidacerii711 You had watched numeros of Simon's videos and hadn't caught the idea, where the real dictatorship was and is? Or you think, that the people who risk their lives are so stupid? I'm sure you have disappointed Simon ;-)
@EoinStidster
@EoinStidster 10 жыл бұрын
Did that guy say he's counting on Putin for his free speech? That sounds like a losing battle..
@futurequagmire6199
@futurequagmire6199 5 жыл бұрын
*becomes Russia * "wait so we don't have freedom of speech or democracy anymore " "please take us back ukraine please we didn't mean it "
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 5 жыл бұрын
@@futurequagmire6199 Wish we could get a followup on the sentiments inside these two 'republics' but I'm unsure if any journos can get inside either one unmolested - that in itself is telling.
@futurequagmire6199
@futurequagmire6199 5 жыл бұрын
@@fuzzydunlop7928 journos are far far safer in the ukraine we want the world to see what Russia is doing to us as long as they stay on our side there safe we will protect them , I can't say the same for Russia there very secretive and don't want anyone to know whats going on
@nikolasavic140
@nikolasavic140 2 жыл бұрын
@@futurequagmire6199 Pretty ironic.Ukraine and democracy
@dexorne9753
@dexorne9753 2 жыл бұрын
@@fuzzydunlop7928 Patrick Manchester, Eva Bartlett
@Ksgamer103
@Ksgamer103 10 жыл бұрын
"What Inernational Community?" "The Usual one." Loved that. didn't now if it was a joke or not but it was funny.
@fightback397
@fightback397 Жыл бұрын
Actually it was a serious question . And funny as well 😂😂 😂 . Well the international community was sure notified with predictable reactions . The rich folk, elites, backed Kiev and the people backed Donetsk .
@Proud_GOY_Not_juwish
@Proud_GOY_Not_juwish 7 ай бұрын
Juuuuuuz
@carlruppert7324
@carlruppert7324 2 жыл бұрын
So this is how it all started - this video right here. How crazy that we get to witness all of these defining moments that lead to the war in Ukraine, firsthand, on KZbin. And as expected, Simon was right there in the middle of it all. Absolute legend! 👏🏻
@fightback397
@fightback397 Жыл бұрын
Watch the videos from Kiev and other regions . From around the same time . How many times is this been played out ? So many . It makes me sad . Everywhere from criss cross the world and innocent people payed the price .
@ocksee
@ocksee 10 жыл бұрын
The fact that practically all of Ukraine has been extremely anti-journalism and anti-cameras for every one of these videos and they still managed to record this entire meeting during the creation of the Donetsk Republic is absolutely amazing. As usual, Simon and his crew publish some fantastic journalism. We're all praying for his release from detainment by the Pro-Russians.
@alessandro.calzavara
@alessandro.calzavara Жыл бұрын
Pro-Russian seem to be more anti-camera than others
@atillabaksay9255
@atillabaksay9255 10 жыл бұрын
"The international community is monitoring this." "What international community?" "The usual one!" :DDDD
@TheMediatorOfChaos
@TheMediatorOfChaos 6 жыл бұрын
"We'll cope with the issue" If only Governor Taruta knew how incredibly wrong he had been...
@yurinator6380
@yurinator6380 Жыл бұрын
They were already part of Russia and thought they were deciding things here😂
@fightback397
@fightback397 Жыл бұрын
@@yurinator6380 Kiev was already bought by the West more or less . What i fail to understand from the Ukrainians is why they thought they could be independent once the USA/EU backed Kiev . I guess the EU propaganda is very strong . Most countries are totally dependent nowadays from the EU funds .
@yurinator6380
@yurinator6380 Жыл бұрын
@@fightback397 Russia loses to Ukraine😭😭😂😂
@germanempire8678
@germanempire8678 Жыл бұрын
@@yurinator6380 with the help of who?
@germanempire8678
@germanempire8678 Жыл бұрын
@@yurinator6380 exactly, ukraine is on the hook now cause of their future debt to the west
@WYO_Dirtbag
@WYO_Dirtbag 10 жыл бұрын
A step back from the actually issues, regardless of peoples options, this is a damn fine video. VICE brings us inside of the administration building and the new "republic" AND the current appointed mayors opinions, AND some people of the streets opinion. You cannot get this kind of coverage anywhere else.
@sethrogen949
@sethrogen949 10 жыл бұрын
Agree
@gillesspony4264
@gillesspony4264 2 жыл бұрын
@@sethrogen949 Agree too! its an amazing video!
@spatwo1936
@spatwo1936 Жыл бұрын
Simon literally had no idea how many FSB agents he was surrounded by lol
@charleybull33
@charleybull33 10 жыл бұрын
It appears that Stalin's efforts to remove intellectuals - worked.
@sashabond79
@sashabond79 4 жыл бұрын
There were planty of normal people in Donetsk - all ran away from this military alco - trash party called "DNR"
@Aaron-sl5qh
@Aaron-sl5qh 4 жыл бұрын
sashabond79 Кажется кому-то нравится умничать🤔
@ladazibarova7357
@ladazibarova7357 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aaron-sl5qh пошёл отсюда
@asson432
@asson432 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent coverage as per your par, Vice, and outstanding work as usual to Mr. Ostrovsky and everybody on the ground.
@sierraecho884
@sierraecho884 5 ай бұрын
One of the best Video series of all time. Incredible work by the journalist Simon and his crew. I can´t believe how vice news and media in general has fallen in the last years.
@Dovelunalove
@Dovelunalove 14 күн бұрын
vice hasn’t fallen. they still do great reporting. especially on the current attack of Ukraine.
@Bookstop1337
@Bookstop1337 10 жыл бұрын
Such a clusterfuck. This is why the government should always be accountable to the people, because once these common people who have no idea how to create a government actually do this whole cycle is just going to repeat again.
@thelittlemermaid6645
@thelittlemermaid6645 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but there isn't a normal government..😭
@igoralekseyev3347
@igoralekseyev3347 9 жыл бұрын
I love how the old guy just sits with the Soviet Union flag.
@Wolf6119
@Wolf6119 10 жыл бұрын
Oh good. A army of drunken men with guns proclaiming three new nations that all wave the Russian flag. What could go wrong. And as to why what they're doing is wrong and what the people in Kiev did isn't, I'll quote a Russian reporter who said "When the people on the Maidan rose up for their freedom, they were waving the flag of the country they live in. When the people of the East rise up for "freedom", they wave the flag of a foreign nation whose military forces are only a few miles away"
@Wolf6119
@Wolf6119 10 жыл бұрын
A double standard suggests the same thing is taking place and one person is judging it differently each time. Maidan: People fighting to depose their national government which they disagree with to replace it with another national government. Donetsk: People taking over an administration building and proclaiming their region a new nation.
@4exgold
@4exgold 10 жыл бұрын
A US backed neo Nazi coup d'état is not freedom you dribbling idiot. Haven't you read the news? These Svoboda/Fatherland Bandera-worshippers are getting ready to bring in the IMF to asset strip whatever Ukraine has left. Large chunks of their navy and military have either defected or will not fight for this illegal regime. Oh, and they cannot even pay Russia for the gas it pipes to them.
@Wolf6119
@Wolf6119 10 жыл бұрын
Okay, again, I'm not justifying the actions of those on the Maidan. Both of these groups are fighting for what they believe is right, and they both have an overly radical approach to thing. BUT I again reiterate. The people on Maidan only wanted to replace their government. The people of Donetsk aren't fighting for their country, they're fighting for another country, or as they say, their own country. Frankly, neither of it is right, but revolution has always been better accepted in history than rebellion.
@kardinalruffo
@kardinalruffo 10 жыл бұрын
4exgold Hello! Bandera is an unfortunate hero but he did fight against the Ukrain's greatest enemy: the soviets. I know many Galicians. These are heroic and good people and extremly patriotic. It is the kind of patriotism that the Texan's had at the alemo. Thier culture is seriously threatened by Putin's Moscow so naturaly there is some anti Russian feeling. It is always easy to confuse the enemy-in this case putin- with a nation.
@LobsterFromMars
@LobsterFromMars 10 жыл бұрын
Wolf6119 If you could understand what "Ukraine", you would not be confused in these things. Ukraine - "artificial formation", consisting of areas with very different (opposite) cultural-historical values. Today they can no longer live together. Began the process of "divorce", as in humans. That's all. Sorry for English, I used a translator.
@eikkkN
@eikkkN 10 жыл бұрын
I loled at the "russian peacekeepers"
@123456ghjklcv5919
@123456ghjklcv5919 10 жыл бұрын
we have these russian peacekeepers in Moldova ... they basically control the country and built russian bases
@liamgrech1
@liamgrech1 10 жыл бұрын
russians and peace don't really go well in the same sentence
@JackTheCarver
@JackTheCarver 10 жыл бұрын
123456ghjklcv5919 In Transnistria, yes, there are Russian bases. And they're there in accord with a peace treaty after the war between Transnistria and Moldova that Moldova agreed to. I don't think it would be long before the Moldovan army "reintegrates" Transnistria if those troops weren't there, and the people of Transnistria do not want that.
@anbr05
@anbr05 10 жыл бұрын
tobby tob just as funny as American Democracy bombing cities of Yugoslavia and Iraq.
@placeholder8768
@placeholder8768 4 жыл бұрын
Andrey Brekhovskikh Russia’s bombing Syria and Iraq as much as America, lmao
@miltoncamilo8974
@miltoncamilo8974 Жыл бұрын
This video is extremely important to understand the current situation in Ukraine. VICE News had done very great service.
@BBBqqq6
@BBBqqq6 3 жыл бұрын
0:58 - get this guy a Gatorade, he is hungover as sh*t
@reanimationeas342
@reanimationeas342 4 ай бұрын
Better get some Expresso coffee too
@Walzounet
@Walzounet 10 жыл бұрын
The more they look educated, the less they want to be part of Russia.
@JesuWho
@JesuWho 10 жыл бұрын
How does the thought of joining Russia even come up? Europe is way better then isolating yourself into Russia.
@JackTheCarver
@JackTheCarver 10 жыл бұрын
Yes....certainly. That mus be why the east of Ukraine, which is richer and has better education, tends to be more pro-Russian. That must be it.
@dAMMDb
@dAMMDb 10 жыл бұрын
JesuWho Ethnicity. Also, they probably think Putin is pretty cool.
@JesuWho
@JesuWho 10 жыл бұрын
Ryan Yakov "Putin is pretty cool". If you like a man who have anti-gay laws, sure. I can see the nationalism in these people, sure if you want to join up with Russia do it. I as a Swede dont have a say in what actions Crimea should talke, it's the people there.
@dAMMDb
@dAMMDb 10 жыл бұрын
They probably sympathize with Putin's views.
@kentfang
@kentfang 10 жыл бұрын
thanks for the update Vice
@facundolamas950
@facundolamas950 Жыл бұрын
8:52 "...a very small country because it only exist insede the walls of the administration building..." How time changes everything.
@sluxi
@sluxi Жыл бұрын
Yes, now it does not exist at all because the territory has been illegally annexed by Russia.
@user-wq9mw2xz3j
@user-wq9mw2xz3j 7 ай бұрын
​@sluxi it was legal according to Donbass tho 😂
@Rascalndear1
@Rascalndear1 10 жыл бұрын
Excellent... thanks! These are the most believable, straight up reports from anybody on the situation in Ukraine today!
@Simple_Classic_Cars
@Simple_Classic_Cars 10 жыл бұрын
Love video editing, pleasure to watch!
@osteelgen8225
@osteelgen8225 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I found this. Was listening on the radio and reading about the current situation on NRK (norwegian media) and wondered what had happened during this time, Learning a lot
@Recycledhero
@Recycledhero 10 жыл бұрын
Good coverage.
@Cblount21
@Cblount21 10 жыл бұрын
Looks like a Tom Clancy novel with this and the stupid NATO General wanting to put U.S troops in Eastern Europe.
@julialevin2431
@julialevin2431 10 жыл бұрын
as always great job Simon
@hachibidelta4237
@hachibidelta4237 Жыл бұрын
These people have suffered because of evil Kiev...
@gillesspony4264
@gillesspony4264 2 жыл бұрын
Interestingly at that time you could still find in the street of Donetsk divided opinions..A few days later ...it became dangerous to express opinions favorable to Ukraine.. Great video!
@opex9979
@opex9979 Жыл бұрын
yeah because clowns sent by Kyiv were sent back to Ukraine
@fightback397
@fightback397 Жыл бұрын
I saw this area with children playing outside , a school , and it was shelled .
@PhiloAmericana
@PhiloAmericana 10 жыл бұрын
Superb job, Simon.
@ricardomeijer7164
@ricardomeijer7164 10 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna put a flag up my roof, declare myself an independent country. And never pay taxes again.
@reanimationeas342
@reanimationeas342 2 жыл бұрын
Great way to get arrested. Good luck
@kristinparish2834
@kristinparish2834 Жыл бұрын
It' a shame that Putin doesn't know what peacekeeping means. To Russia AND China it's all about weapons, weapons. weapons.
@ronaldkerekes3989
@ronaldkerekes3989 Жыл бұрын
You are brainwashed
@cskvision
@cskvision Жыл бұрын
@@ronaldkerekes3989 look at what’s left of Severdonetsk, Lysychansk and Mariupol ever since Russia graced those cities with their presence. Can’t be brainwashed with reality
@teabagNBG
@teabagNBG 10 жыл бұрын
lmao the old guy at the 0:41 mark wearing a wutang crewneck lmao
@mango2005
@mango2005 10 жыл бұрын
"Peoples Republic". Now where have I heard such names before?
@reanimationeas342
@reanimationeas342 Жыл бұрын
All of which are dictatorships
@bradbel
@bradbel 10 жыл бұрын
Great reporting (as always.)
@philippefaucon3317
@philippefaucon3317 10 жыл бұрын
Ostrowsky's work...BRAVO !!!! Absolutely amazing coverage since the beginning! BRAVO!!!
@kurtstory9466
@kurtstory9466 10 жыл бұрын
Funny how they call it "People's Republic of Donetsk", yet they are flying a Russian flag. That actually tells me a lot.
@pamilerinluwoye9104
@pamilerinluwoye9104 Жыл бұрын
In Russia states or regions ar ẹ called republics Basically because Russia is very very big like a continent
@ronaldkerekes3989
@ronaldkerekes3989 Жыл бұрын
Tells you what ?their grandparents were murdered by Germans
@CosmicValkyrie
@CosmicValkyrie 2 ай бұрын
You should study what a federation is.
@JackTheCarver
@JackTheCarver 10 жыл бұрын
Simon, that governor has been in office for a month or so. The old governor has been deposed of by the new government in Kiew and they have installed loyal puppets, not people who represent the regions they govern. You could have been a little more critical.
@gooner72
@gooner72 Жыл бұрын
That bloke at about 01:00 in the video was absolutely hilarious........ he was clearly hammered, his eyes were all over the place and he slurred his words all the way through..😆
@Hakeem94
@Hakeem94 10 жыл бұрын
is it a fair comparison that I say that the people here and in Crimea "voting" to become a part a Russia because they are the majority population is Russian is like Southern California becoming a part of Mexico just because the majority population are from Central America?
@kanaric
@kanaric 10 жыл бұрын
and putting on the ballot only "join mexico" or "become independent"
@l00knohands
@l00knohands 10 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison. And somewhat right on a deeper level. During the Soviet era, Moscow enacted 'Russification' policies where they essentially colonized imperial holdings (Ukraine, Poland, Baltic states, Chechnya) with ethnic Russians. Aside from making control easier, it also (in some cases, dramatically) altered the demographics of these countries. So it'd be somewhat similar if it was Mexican government policy to affect this change. And if Mexican nationals weren't in Cali before Americans were. So crucial differences, but still sharing some aspects.
@Hakeem94
@Hakeem94 10 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to make sure that I didn't seem unintelligent on the issue haha I'm trying to understand why and how Russia is able to do this. Like, what is Putin's motive behind acquiring Crimea and elsewhere.
@AwesomeSkills2010
@AwesomeSkills2010 10 жыл бұрын
Hakeem Fairweather Well considering the expansion of Nato to Russian borders you can see how that is making Russia nervous, thats why crimea is was taken. Im sure you can imagine how say US would react if China suddenly made military alliance with Mexico and build few bases right next to USAs southern border.
@AwesomeSkills2010
@AwesomeSkills2010 10 жыл бұрын
Hakeem Fairweather Crimea is extremely important from both military and economic perspective. It harbours russian black sea fleet and therefore enables russians to control black sea and also gives acces to mediterrainean sea.
@RealNarod28
@RealNarod28 10 жыл бұрын
History in the making. Pretty powerful to watch actually.
@samonaprid7782
@samonaprid7782 Жыл бұрын
True
@LepisX
@LepisX 10 жыл бұрын
1:22 He's totally wasted... not a headache.
@reanimationeas342
@reanimationeas342 9 ай бұрын
I bet that he had a massive hangover
@franciscosalanova6601
@franciscosalanova6601 Ай бұрын
Excellent reporting! Great series by Vice
@D-J-Q
@D-J-Q 3 жыл бұрын
1:21 Best rolling eyes ever.
@PicksFromThe6ix
@PicksFromThe6ix 10 жыл бұрын
Vice News and Simon in particular have been doing an amazing job since day one in bringing us amazing coverage in Ukraine. Amazing work keep it up.
@malibu14111
@malibu14111 10 жыл бұрын
It's quite striking to see the people who are very clearly educated taking a stance vehemently against joining Russia and the low-income people being Pro joining Russia.
@Tabak419
@Tabak419 10 жыл бұрын
Such people are much easier to manipulate. Just tell them that they'll loose their shitty job and they'll freak out. If you want them to do some really serious shit then tell them they'll have super huge payment for the the same work.
@anapoli22
@anapoli22 10 жыл бұрын
Seems to me like Putin is their Obama over there. Appeals to the low income citizens by offering them "change" and "a better life" and "free stuff". When I think we all know what the price that really comes with.
@aSuspiciousPete
@aSuspiciousPete 10 жыл бұрын
***** calm down your tits. Those people had some really hard times last two decades, constantly being robbed by wealthy guys (like Sergey Taruta) and not taken care of at all. They work in the region that makes most of the money in Ukraine and have nothing for themselves! In Russia, we have gone through this long ago and I could imagine how sad they are. And hey! Those are not russians, technically they're all Ukrainians. You offend me dude!
@The_Lucent_Archangel
@The_Lucent_Archangel 10 жыл бұрын
***** Putin is not highly religious, and Obama opposed gay marriage during his 2008 run, smart guy. Oh, and point to where marriage (as an institution) is a guaranteed right. It's not. If there were no tax and legal disparity between licensed marriage and civil unions, same-sex marriage would be a non-issue.
@The_Lucent_Archangel
@The_Lucent_Archangel 10 жыл бұрын
***** Look up Barry and Hillary's lines on the subject back in the 08 primaries. Sorry for the misunderstanding, as I agree.
@danvolodar
@danvolodar 10 жыл бұрын
That Kiev junta-appointed "governor" sure looks self-assured and not nervous at all.
@Praylak
@Praylak 10 жыл бұрын
Relaxed and confident, that was my impression. Seriously though, the guy seems to be shitting his pants. Could it be anymore obvious, the guy is very scared.
@syro666
@syro666 10 жыл бұрын
Look at the Rebel leaders in Donetsk, their all hung over from the night before. Is this what Russians call a party or are they taking over the government.
@derfvcderfvc7317
@derfvcderfvc7317 2 жыл бұрын
They still exist 7 years later
@matthewneddeau7993
@matthewneddeau7993 Жыл бұрын
@@syro666 the founding fathers of my country were some drunk colonists, not much different then these guys.
@sluxi
@sluxi Жыл бұрын
What a joke calling it a junta. It was an interim government that only lasted for a short while and they held elections. It was never a military dictatorship as your word of choice would mean.
@L0rd_Schmidtler
@L0rd_Schmidtler 10 жыл бұрын
My man is saucy as fuck 1:25 lol drunk politicians are always the funniest.
@Vuikos
@Vuikos 10 жыл бұрын
Если будет возможность возьмите интервью у милиционеров, основная диверсия была с их стороны, они фактически впустили экстремистов и не вмешивались при многократных нарушениях закона и прав людей которые там живут. Спасибо.
@Oblomovblues
@Oblomovblues 10 жыл бұрын
они просто в политике не разбираются. Один раз выполнили приказ и за это были поставлены на колени. Естественно опасаются, что если начнут выполнять сейчас - опять встанут в итоге.
@LobsterFromMars
@LobsterFromMars 10 жыл бұрын
Милиция тоже состоит из тех кто поддерживает киевскую хунту и тех, кто хунту не поддерживает.
@Vuikos
@Vuikos 10 жыл бұрын
Владислав Волков Поэтому они колорадские ленточки носят и когда бьют людей на улице ломом (факт), то просто отворачиваются? Как бы там не было, нужно у них спрашивать о причинах, потому, что проблема может быть решаема.
@kristofgranger6922
@kristofgranger6922 6 жыл бұрын
Use English or go back to russia.
@PS3Zocker21
@PS3Zocker21 6 жыл бұрын
Kristaps Gailis Go clean toilets in the EU or go back to the Baltics
@danielrichard1451
@danielrichard1451 Жыл бұрын
this series is the best reporting vice news ever did
@thomasanderson1416
@thomasanderson1416 10 ай бұрын
Amazing reportage.
@RFPishere
@RFPishere 10 жыл бұрын
Great Stuff Vice
@sethrogen949
@sethrogen949 10 жыл бұрын
How can they form a government when they did not do a vote OF the people?
@thevideogamehunger0134
@thevideogamehunger0134 2 жыл бұрын
Well there is something called a interim government.
@pheymee88
@pheymee88 Жыл бұрын
3:50 "We have asked Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin to send in peacekeeping forces to the region from the Russian Federation so people can freely express their will on how they want to live". I'm sure that's definitely the only way how people can express themselves freely.
@PakelisViniu
@PakelisViniu 10 жыл бұрын
Looks like Simon lost some weight and looks tired. Keep up, man. It is great to see a journalist that is on the ground in the middle of the action. Great pieces of info.
@Behemoth29
@Behemoth29 24 күн бұрын
5:15 That is not Denis Pushilin. Pushilin was at 4:25.
@4exgold
@4exgold 10 жыл бұрын
What strikes me about this short film is the clear presence of a power vacuum. The official governor & some staff are operating from a hotel whilst the "People's Republic" have taken over the regional govt HQ. The local security forces are laying low but are probably more sympathetic to the notion of secession or at least autonomy. It's a very dangerous situation.
@drp_bear
@drp_bear 10 жыл бұрын
The point is that every move of official government is instantly being used in pro-russian propaganda in very dirty way. When thousands of people in Kyiv wanted to Yanukovich to leave - pro-russians and Russia itself screamed out loud that this is people are fashists, terrorists, payed by America. But when 100-150 people is take over regional HQ - pro-russians calls it "legitimate will of local people".
@LobsterFromMars
@LobsterFromMars 10 жыл бұрын
Pear Cake You are greatly mistaken - or intentionally lying. These people are not 100-150, thousands of them. And that's just the activists. A tacitly support them almost the entire population of South-East of Ukraine.
@drp_bear
@drp_bear 10 жыл бұрын
LobsterFromMars I think asking you for proof is pontless. In Kharkov gov. HQ was only 70 people. 65 of them are going to jail, 5 - to home arrest. In Donetsk HQ is twice more people at max, thats why I said "150". Im gonna repeat myself - the only reason why those "activists" in Donetsk is not in a jail yet is that Russia will immediately try to use this for military invade.
@serggla924
@serggla924 10 жыл бұрын
Pear Cake He's talking about all the people who support those "150" people which would be close to all of Donetsk and most of Eastern Ukraine.
@drp_bear
@drp_bear 10 жыл бұрын
sergey glavan Look closely, he is trying to say that in Donetsk HQ are "thousands of them" lol.
@vorrepetrykanov6313
@vorrepetrykanov6313 10 жыл бұрын
as always more great coverage. better than mainstream media. keep it up !
@reanimationeas342
@reanimationeas342 10 ай бұрын
I admit that news stations barely give the whole picture a lot of times
@ItsAlisaa
@ItsAlisaa 9 жыл бұрын
How they were arguing in the meeting reminded me of the movie Garage
@marcantallita
@marcantallita 10 жыл бұрын
All paid by your friendly overlord USSR.
@WrathOfLust
@WrathOfLust 10 жыл бұрын
Kiev appointed governor seems very sleazy, that fake smile ugh, its no surprise he has so little support in the region.
@brasilsoccer0
@brasilsoccer0 10 жыл бұрын
I wish you spend more time interviewing the normal people as in the last few seconds. Maybe in the next video you talk to normal folks and the corrupt politicians
@ajbrooks6017
@ajbrooks6017 10 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to me all the "factions" as they called it such as the eastern front, cossacks, the russian and the ukraine militaries i understand but i'm really confused about all the rest
@EinkOLED
@EinkOLED 10 жыл бұрын
I've stayed in that Hotel last november. It is not far from the shaktar football stadium.
@enciksyafiq6977
@enciksyafiq6977 Жыл бұрын
Finally after 8 years waiting,there's a good sign they will be free...good for them and good luck for the incoming referendum
@xxwookey
@xxwookey 2 жыл бұрын
I'm coming very late to this series having not taken that much notice 7 years ago. But I have to say that I am very impressed indeed at Simon and his cameraperson's ability to be in interesting an important places, ask good questions, listen respectfully to the answers and overall do excellent journalism in somewhat chaotic and often stressful circumstances. It feels balanced in a very polarised situation. You can see why revolutions often go badly, because once you've got everyone excited, it's quite hard to get them to calm down enough to actually run a country without just starting more arguments. Made harder when your next door neighbour is Mr Putin.
@lolcat23
@lolcat23 10 жыл бұрын
the meeting sounded something like i imagined from The Moon is a harsh mistress
@kevjtnbtmglr
@kevjtnbtmglr 9 жыл бұрын
05:00 How did they decide who gets in to the meeting room?
@staysharp5893
@staysharp5893 10 жыл бұрын
Ukraine verses the Pro Alcoholic's of Ukraine. Give them vodka they be right (sarcasm). If people where sitting on my front lawn with tyres around them stating they want to be part of another country. I would tell them put those tyres on a car and drive there.
@minuteofsilence1
@minuteofsilence1 10 жыл бұрын
More than half of the population. You sounds like Stalin
@staysharp5893
@staysharp5893 10 жыл бұрын
It is Ukraine land don't like it leave. NOT RUSSIAN land whatever the population just cause you outnumber a small country doesn't mean you take over them any where in the world. Otherwise for example a large number of people could take control of anywhere they like. I don't know why I am explaining, maybe your support Pro Alcoholics and your drunk. I don't care how much of the population it is NO, it could be a small island for I care, if you don't believe in the values of another country then don't live there.
@minuteofsilence1
@minuteofsilence1 10 жыл бұрын
Ok so we will not support but fordome reasone we will support this
@kaizersoze
@kaizersoze 10 жыл бұрын
I like these documentaries, not biased! and wants EVERYONES side of the story, today I seen 3. Fuck you if you think VICENEWS is biased. ;) P.S. Keep up the good work Simon!!!!
@Sam3532
@Sam3532 10 жыл бұрын
what a dispatch. that ending. a glimpse into another place. the kids seemed different... in an odd way. not bad odd lol
@d1agram4
@d1agram4 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao the beginning, that dude was trashed.
@croftshaftoe5554
@croftshaftoe5554 10 жыл бұрын
Wow those guys are drunk
@deaansugee
@deaansugee 10 жыл бұрын
Something's puzzling me, tho, in Crimea, during the pro-Russian protest, we've seen pro-Ukrainian protesters as well. And it should be noted there was the danger of the Russian military in Crimea as well. But on Donetsk, an area that has a significantly larger Ukrainian:Russian ratio than Crimea, we can't see any pro-Ukrainian protesters. What's happening here?
@velikiradojica
@velikiradojica 10 жыл бұрын
Kiev withdrew the ban on Russian language and Lavrov said they won't annex Eastern Ukraine. Those are good enough reasons for people on both sides to just ignore the situation and give the new president a chance, I guess.
@QronoZ713
@QronoZ713 Жыл бұрын
@@velikiradojica And look what happened 🙃
@germanempire8678
@germanempire8678 Жыл бұрын
@@QronoZ713 now we are fucked and I hope everything to end good
@ronaldkerekes3989
@ronaldkerekes3989 Жыл бұрын
Donbass is Russian...pro russian...always been
@germanempire8678
@germanempire8678 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wish for peace between russia and ukraine
@vernont4119
@vernont4119 10 жыл бұрын
Who knew it was that easy to form a new government, might have to give it a try.
@TheZaratustra1989
@TheZaratustra1989 10 жыл бұрын
English subtitle please!
@HenrySims
@HenrySims 10 жыл бұрын
Someone should set that building on fire.
@augustin5611
@augustin5611 8 ай бұрын
0:10 4:21 Denis Pushilin
@PedroFerreira-ze5yp
@PedroFerreira-ze5yp 7 ай бұрын
exatcly! the fascist, Denys Pushilin!
@marat5139
@marat5139 6 ай бұрын
Пенис Душилин
@ausetmcchristion-thomas1522
@ausetmcchristion-thomas1522 2 ай бұрын
Amazing journalism
@Ascension646
@Ascension646 10 жыл бұрын
That guy they're interviewing after the uh prohibition speech seems to embody that goal!
@ratzpat6710
@ratzpat6710 10 жыл бұрын
I remember Soviets and Americans split the Korean peninsula. As far as I remember Russian side still sucks
@arnoldassulnius9849
@arnoldassulnius9849 10 жыл бұрын
Stay strong Ukraine!
@trupoed17
@trupoed17 10 жыл бұрын
Like Luthinia!:))(im already laughing)
@pepechen
@pepechen 9 жыл бұрын
Congratulations Vice News, Congratulations Ostroyski and Mr. Cameraman, I watched all 23 Dispaches and I enjoyed them thoughly, the best reporting on Ukraine, and I have seen a lot, really sensational work. Thankyou very much.
@aaronsuarez2585
@aaronsuarez2585 9 жыл бұрын
well....now you got 70 xD
@voidsilvia
@voidsilvia 10 жыл бұрын
Old dude at 0:41 with the Wu-Tang Clan shirt! Wuuu!!!
@TheBlacklight345
@TheBlacklight345 10 жыл бұрын
Once again thanks Vice News for keeping us informed unlike a certain news agency which seems to go on and on about theories of a 'missing airline'.
@aluurchin
@aluurchin 10 жыл бұрын
Like CNN. poshli bse oni nahui.
@darojax
@darojax 10 жыл бұрын
VICE strikes again with another incomparable world class news report. You're the best VICE, thankyou for your hard work and the risks you take!
@123rmillan
@123rmillan 10 жыл бұрын
REALLY? are you paying attention or are you one of those sheeple? Vice in general and Simon in particular are obviously bias.
@kael13
@kael13 10 жыл бұрын
Presenting three sides and their individual opinions as is, is CLEARLY bias, right? *rollseyes*
@darojax
@darojax 10 жыл бұрын
123rmillan Maybe they are biased, I dont know. What I do see though is alot of close up reports from the inside, quality up close news that no other news agencies manage to produce. I'd say they let their videos speak for themselves, most of the time anyway. ^^
@MrBrg234
@MrBrg234 10 жыл бұрын
only 360p :(
@drovoseg
@drovoseg 10 жыл бұрын
Governor of Donetsk is Woody Allen actually.
@theyeetplayer8724
@theyeetplayer8724 11 ай бұрын
If the people want independance or to belong to Russia, it is their good right.
@owenthomas5103
@owenthomas5103 8 ай бұрын
Yes, but its the job of those claiming thats the case to to prove it with real votes, not turning up with guns, causing violence and causing people to flee then holding a supposed referendum after kicking out election observers.
@Svistov
@Svistov 8 ай бұрын
​@@owenthomas5103because the US would never do something lime that...
@kitchenersown
@kitchenersown 8 ай бұрын
​@@owenthomas5103The Ukrainian government never approved of any referendum...they had to do it themselves...
@MrXYZ86
@MrXYZ86 10 жыл бұрын
Not again with that Russian eagle thing... The two headed eagle with ribbon and Saint Michael is not Russia's two headed eagle with septer, sword and Saint George badge. Donetzk Republic was a sovereign state between Ukraine and Russia, with the flag and seal they fly in the video. After the end of 1918 Civil War it was dissolved and attached to Ukraine as a gift from Lenin.
@ayrkrane5559
@ayrkrane5559 5 жыл бұрын
5.07 "and they are deciding what to donetsk" xD
@wertyuiopmax2600
@wertyuiopmax2600 4 жыл бұрын
1:20 - That was NOT a vodka.
@ekfk1527
@ekfk1527 10 жыл бұрын
long life to Ukraine united
@natrone23
@natrone23 10 жыл бұрын
Nathan Callidor You get to overthrow the president when he kills 100 unarmed citizens.
@ekfk1527
@ekfk1527 10 жыл бұрын
Nathan Callidor oh really? it is awfull. Thanks god, Putin is here to save Ukraine
@Aaron-sl5qh
@Aaron-sl5qh 4 жыл бұрын
EK FK Maybe if 7 oblast weren’t inhabited by russians
@ConorMcgregor322
@ConorMcgregor322 3 жыл бұрын
@Pavor Shut up, they're not Fascists and you know it. This propaganda goes back to Soviet times. Yanukovych is just about as democratically elected as Putin is. If this happened in Russia, these protests would have been shut down and all the protesters beaten and thrown in jail. That should tell you who the real fascists are.
@Limpzzzik
@Limpzzzik 10 жыл бұрын
У меня постоянно возникает вопрос: Вот Ярута говорит, что никто тех людей не уполномачивал создавать временное правительство, а кто тогда уполномочил людей менять правительство в Киеве? Правый Сектор?! Кто-нибудь может дать адекватный аргумент почему там люди могут митинговать и менять, а в Донецке люди не могут?! Почему Ярута говорит 50-100 человек, он что, боится выйти из Отеля и увидеть, что там стоят тысячи?!
@Environmentalismatic
@Environmentalismatic 10 жыл бұрын
Ок. Когда соберется там больше чем пол миллиона, тогда поговорим?
@Limpzzzik
@Limpzzzik 10 жыл бұрын
***** Я немного не понял вопроса. Нормально прочитали мой комментарий? А то походу мы об одном и том же.
@ratzpat6710
@ratzpat6710 10 жыл бұрын
If not the bottles for Molotov cocktails, I really doubt Russians would give up vodka just like that.
@Stan_IsLove
@Stan_IsLove 10 жыл бұрын
So funny how one of the interviewed was in the hotel with the governor lol ahahha
@rannychin7497
@rannychin7497 10 жыл бұрын
Being "authorized" for taking actions that you believe in is the biggest horse shit I've ever heard. Who the hell fights only when they're told?
@ares106
@ares106 10 жыл бұрын
"People's Republic of Donetsk'" haha! WHat a joke!
@Aaron-sl5qh
@Aaron-sl5qh 4 жыл бұрын
ares106 You are the only joke
@edwardviii2837
@edwardviii2837 3 жыл бұрын
it happened
@reanimationeas342
@reanimationeas342 Жыл бұрын
DPR and LPR: Idiotic terrorists running a Mafia state
@kumkumhashmali3054
@kumkumhashmali3054 10 жыл бұрын
i must Simon Politzer NoW! Eto genialno,prosto,genialno
@crislamont4174
@crislamont4174 10 жыл бұрын
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