DJI Mini 4 Pro: How do the Canadian Regulations Apply?

[@TeeEmmCee]

Thank you, Don, for a couple of reasons! LOL. Much appreciated. This is great for new fliers, but also as a review for experienced flyers.

[@DonJoyce]

Hey, great footage, TeeCee!!

[@carlosamat]

great drone safety video for all... good work, Don common sense is becoming rare thing these days... doing the right thing regardless of who might be watching is always the golden standard... and yes, the dji mini 4 pro is 👍👍

[@DonJoyce]

Thanks, Carlos! SO many people are buying these small drones and launching into it without checking....hopefully the message will get out that there's a lot to know, even for sub250g drones.

[@amirmcintyre3264]

Hey buddy great content, quick question, am coming over to canada all the way from the Caribbean with my mini3pro do I need to declare it at the airport or do I need any license or do I need to get it registered? I fly tomorrow so your response will be greatly appericiated 🙏

[@DonJoyce]

I see you already found this video...lol. You don't need to declare the drone at customs. It's just like a camera.

[@amirmcintyre3264]

@@DonJoyce o man thank you soomuch for responding, you have just put me at peace with coming on this trip 🙌 thank you soomuch and keep up with the great content 👍

[@camiladuque1556]

Hi Don. Thank you for all the information! I have an extra question: Do I need to purchase insurance to operate the DJI Mini 4 Pro? How does insurance apply to operating the drone?

[@northwoodmediaworks]

Great video Don. The link to it should come in the packaging of all sub 250s.

[@DonJoyce]

Thanks, R! I agree!

[@clydemurray4050]

Thanks very much Don, excellent video and excellent information. I guess it never hurts to have some gray areas cleared up.

[@DonJoyce]

Glad it was helpful!

[@LukeYang-bf7bs]

I’d like to take some photos of projects built in street right of way in Vancouver, such as new green street gardens with a mini 4. What regulations do I need to check?

[@DonJoyce]

Aside from the restrictions mentioned in this video, please check your municipal bylaws.

[@edgestrikecyber]

Great video Don! If you decide to register your mini 4 and put a label on it wth the registration # that may push you over the 250g also.

[@DonJoyce]

True: my put my name and phone number on mine...with a very small label!

[@DeanKimPhotography]

Hi Don, I took footage of a fireworks display during Canada Day. Did I violated any rules? I got a mini 4 pro. I'm really close on a no fly zone but I'm like more than 1km away from the radius.

[@DonJoyce]

If your drone is under 250g and you took reasonable safety precautions, you should be fine. Be sure to check for no fly zones beforehand.

[@lasersbee]

5:01... I like the yellow one....😉 5:35.... Common Sense...

[@DonJoyce]

The great thing is that you don't really need to choose one or the other...

[@salvesunita247]

Thanks for sharing great video and excellent information my friend 👍👍👍👍

[@DonJoyce]

Thank you too

[@FORDEVR]

Best Canadian Drone Content. Great Video🤟

[@DonJoyce]

Thank you!

[@droningwithjamie]

I did not know that Don about mini 4 not allowed in control zone but mini 3 is that's weird in transport canada laws At least I learned that Thankyou Don

[@Aerosnapper]

Please be careful about terminology - Control Zones are not the same as RESTRICTED, Class F areas. It's confusing, but Control Zones exist around most certified airports and heliports, and, if you're sensible, you can fly there with a MicroDrone.

[@DonJoyce]

As Mike indicates, both Mini 3's and Mini 4's are permitted in airport Control Zones, but neither are permitted in Class F Restricted areas without permission. This video may help: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnLVYXqHbZufgqM

[@droningwithjamie]

@DonJoyce I understand now Thankyou Sir

[@AngusWynford]

Thanks for the informative video. I plan to pick the DJI Mini 4 Pro from Costco in Vancouver, BC for $1,300.00 (bundle price) which I think it's a good deal when the Mini 5 Pro is on the way. However, I'm still haunted by the painful memory of crashing my DJI Phamton 2 many years ago. I underestimated the height of a tree on it's way back. I prefer to learn more before flying it. Could you provide me your Mini 4 Pro turtorial link ? Is it necessry to take some physcial drone flying classes , to minimize the human mistakes ?

[@DonJoyce]

Costco usually offers very good bundle deals, depending upon what is included. I would compare to Amazon's price. Here is an affiliate link (ie, I would get a small commission) for their current deal with the really great RC2 controller with screen: amzn.to/46CM7hu . I do not have a Mini 4 flying tutorial, but fellow Canadian channel Air Photography has great walk-throughs! It is not necessary to take flying classes, but it can certainly help...or even to fly a few times with someone else to see how they operate.

[@EdwardKilner]

One thing you did not discuss. If I have an under 250g drone and I'm a Canadian citizen, can I take it into the US when I visit my daughter? Any customs issues, for example?

[@DonJoyce]

It's just a camera...there's nothing special to declare, but it's always a good idea to have a copy of the receipt (even digitally), particularly when returning to Canada. To fly in the states recreationally, you only need to take the FAA TRUST test. Here's a video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHu9nISCZ9Ggpbs . If you are flying for any sort of compensation, you'll need your FAA Part107.

[@guillowsteve]

Is there an altitude maximum for sub-250 drones?

[@DonJoyce]

There is no specific altitude limit for sub250g drones, although in many environments exceeding 120m may be considered a risk to manned aircraft. This video eplains the rules that DO apply.

[@akshaybakshi5471]

Came across this video as looking to buy a drone. Thank you for patiently explaining dos and donts. I live in the heart of downtown Toronto meaning quite close to the CN tower. I understand mini 4 is under 250gms but can easily cross the threshold with a different battery for example. In the NAV drone app the entire downtown becomes red when I select more than 250gms. Does that mean no one can fly a drone in downtown? I’m confused as I see a ton of drone videos of downtown Toronto. How are they bypassing strict rules? 249gms just cuts it and I’m not sure I want to take a risk. Any advice would be appreciated. Don’t want to spend $ knowing I won’t be able to fly anywhere in downtown Toronto. Thank you again!

[@DonJoyce]

I'm glad you are asking before buying! Drones under 250g are free from most regulations, as detailed in this video. If you are flying a drone over 250g in the Toronto area (for example), you would need your Advanced RPAS Pilot Certificate, a drone qualified to fly in controlled airspace, and a flight authorization via the NavDrone app to fly. It IS a pain. I would recommend you take the FREE Drone Pilot Association of Canada (DPAC) Safety Course to learn more...it takes just a few minutes to learn a lot: www.dronepilotassociationofcanada.com/courses/dpac-safety-course/

[@davooodansari]

Thanks for your video and it was very helpful. I just noticed I can fly my drone in my backyard only :)

[@DonJoyce]

Really? with a sub250g drone?

[@anthonyrowenz9045]

Again just to make sure, I don’t need to have a license operating my mini 4 pro?

[@DonJoyce]

As long as it is under 250g, you don't need to register it nor do you need a drone pilot certificate. Fly safely!

[@m0khm0kh]

Amazing content.. well done..Thanks Don 👍🏼

[@DonJoyce]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@xjet]

I think the TC rules for sub250g and the subsiquent lack of injuries, deaths or property damage really highlight the lunacy that we operate under here in New Zealand -- where no distinction in regulation is made between my 20g toy and a 20Kg commercial hexacopter. *Everything* here is regulated as if it was a 20Kg multirotor with flesh-cleaving props just waiting to fall out of the sky and kill someone. To be fair and effective, regulation must be proportionate to risk. TC has done a good job with their Sub250g rules -- New Zealand has created an *epic fail* which is why levels of compliance with some of our drone regs is incredibly low.

[@DonJoyce]

Yes, the sub250g range is certainly a bright spot in the Canadian regulations, Bruce. Above that, things go a bit extreme, certainly compared to the risks of other things like cars.

[@xjet]

@@DonJoyce It makes you wonder about the sanity and intelligence of bureaucrats and rule-makers who are effectively claiming that a 249g drone is safe and harmless but a 250g one is so dangerous it requires all the additional rules, regulation and restriction we see in TC's regulations. Should Canadians feel insulted that their regulator thinks they're so stupid as to believe that hogwash?

[@lenwerner]

@@xjet Please stop and think a bit. By your logic, then if a 250g drone is as safe as a 249g one, then a 251g one is as safe as a 250g one, and a 252g one as safe as a 251g....and so on, a gram at a time, right up to 25kg--which can fly 90 km/hr and decapitate someone just like sticking your head out of a car window at 90 and being hit by a stationary bowling ball (which is only maybe 8 kg). TC had to 'draw the line' somewhere, and they did in harmony with many other jurisdictions faced with the same task--notably the population of 330 million people just south of us. We must also remember that the Basic drone certification, even though the applicant studying and thinking of only getting a 1 kg drone wonders 'why do I have to learn all this stuff'--the license gives him the right to fly that 90 km/hr bowling ball. It may not be at all unreasonable to have such a freedom be gained by demonstrating a degree of competency. I recently passed the Basic exam, and even as a licensed private pilot and aircraft owner since 1978 I found the degree of knowledge to be gained and demonstrated to be appropriate.

[@jedrel]

Hi Don, I watched this video and found it informative and helpful. My question is if the Nav Drone app is enough to keep myself out of trouble? I also checked some provincial parks and a lot of them has a green status of allowed. I suppose the best way is to still ask the park officers prior to operating, right?

[@DonJoyce]

Nav Drone does not offer any information about provincial parks. It gives you an airspace assessment related to aerodrome proximity, airspace class, NOTAMs, and national parks only. Drone Pilot Canada provides boundaries and rules for provincial parks, and (soon) municipal bylaws.

[@jedrel]

@@DonJoyce thanks for clarifying that. I just don't want to get in trouble when flying my drone. I'll look up the Drona Pilot Canada for mote information.

[@marceldemers5434]

Thanks for the great info, I am considering buying a mini 4 but, I have concern about remote ID that DJI puts in the mini 4, even when the drone weigh's less than 250 grams, the excuse they use that it has remote ID because you might add accessories that would make it more than 250 grams, I think is pretty lame excuse because any drone can be made to weight more than 250 grams like my mini 2, witch as no remote ID, I do realize that remote ID is not applied here in Canada but, Knowing the impositions that the States like to impose on the rest of the planet Will my mini 4 pro be broadcasting my info via remote ID anyway unlike my mini 2 ? Ps. Remote ID is a shit show in the States right now, a lots of pilots are not going for it, I hope Canada doesn't not apply such a invasion of privacy and control law over our drones.

[@DonJoyce]

The Drone Pilot Association of Canada (DPAC) has taken a firm position with Transport Canada against Remote ID. Join DPAC at DronePilotAssociationOfCanada.com to add your voice to the organization.

[@marceldemers5434]

Merci Don I already joined the Drone Pilot Association when after seeing your KZbin video I passed the refresher course exam. Keep up the good work

[@animato6441]

Do you think it is reasonable to take photos of people’s roofs, not over their home, but above the street, with no vision of their backyard?

[@DonJoyce]

There are a lot of factors to consider, particularly if you are doing this for a commercial purpose (eg, quoting for roof repairs). But in general, if you are not unreasonably impacting people's privacy, you MAY be ok. I have a great video coming out on Friday that talks about all the ins and outs of drone privacy...from an actual privacy lawyer!

[@animato6441]

@@DonJoyce Awesome, look forward to it. And yes this is for roofing. I am looking to collect roofing leads for roofing companies by photographing their roof with a sub-250 drone and going down the neighbourhood.

[@richardzaluski284]

Don't fly over national parks stresses animals. But everywhere else ya 😂😂

[@Heliosvector]

Some of the new drones I can't even hear. A hiker walking with a bell would be more stressful

[@maryanborovets]

Great video! Thank you 🤜🤛

[@DonJoyce]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@PGodin54]

Excellent information and guidance. Searching on Amazon, I found an RC and RC2 models?! One at $1700 and another (RC2) at $1200. Any recommendations and advice is welcomed. 👍🇨🇦

[@DonJoyce]

Thanks! Yeah, picking the right package is surprisingly tricky! Watch out for the right model (mini 4 pro), the right controller (RC 2 is the one with the built in screen; the RC N2 has no screen), and the right battery size (Plus or not). My recommendation is the RC 2 with regular batteries. Here's an affiliate link to it, for which I will receive a small commission: DJI Mini 4 Pro Fly More Combo with RC2 : amzn.to/46CM7hu

[@Holdfast]

Very informative and a good use of my time as I await my first mini drone!

[@DonJoyce]

Glad it was helpful!

[@davestredulinsky]

Thanks you Don for your excellent summary of the regulations that apply to the DJI Mini 4 Pro and other sub-250g drone and your guidelines for them flying safely.

[@DonJoyce]

Thanks, Dave!

[@Tonellacam]

What if we use the mini pro 4 to shoot real estate videos to get paid ? Do we need a permit or certificate for that ?

[@calb0]

its under 250 g no license required for that drone.

[@Tonellacam]

@@calb0 thanks !

[@DonJoyce]

The regulations in Canada do not differentiate between recreational and commercial flying. Just fly safely. I encourage you to watch this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqfRmI1vm7uEf7M

[@Aerosnapper]

Don - is that picture of the two sunbathing ladies the one that got you into trouble and made you more aware of privacy concerns ? LOL - very helpful; video for new fliers.

[@DonJoyce]

Well, it would have been an odd privacy case since they were lounging about on MY dock! They seemed more concerned about getting chilled from the prop downwash... (ok...just a stock photo...)

[@gbower1]

Another excellent informative video. This information also applies for the Mini 3 Pro with the bigger battery or other sub 250gm drones with accessories added that put it over 250gms.

[@DonJoyce]

Thanks, Gerry! Yes, the same information applies to the Mini 3 Pro or other sub250g drone.

[@Blueskyver]

Great video, Don, your best on the below 256 gr! Thank you very much on behalf of all Canadian UAV Pilots.

[@DonJoyce]

Thanks!

[@ORGANIZEDCoNfUsioN]

Great video Don, very important to know the rules. Like # 150!!!

[@DonJoyce]

Thanks, Dave!

[@Nickfletchertheskibum]

Love the video thank you so much

[@DonJoyce]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@BobHerres]

What an amazing video, Tons of solid info -TY! I still have my trusty Mini 2, now I also have the Mini 4 Pro, w std 3 batteries, /and a single “Plus Battery.” While I’m already a Basic Pilot... I guess I’ll have to learn how to log all my “Plus Battery Flights” with my Drone Pilot Canada App!.

[@DonJoyce]

Great to hear you have upgraded to the Mini 4, Bob! Flight logging is easy....videos available to get you started...

[@ShanshanSateren]

I'm in the US and have my part 107 commercial drone pilot certificate, so I can put footage on my KZbin channel. Just about to buy a mini 4 pro, and wondering if it's a good choice when I go up to Canada. I still will buy the heavier plus batteries for my channel and real estate footages in the US, but will get a standard battery when I go visit Vancouver in the summer. And gosh the Drone Pilot Canada app is US$44.99??? I can just stick with the free Nav Drone app, right?

[@DonJoyce]

Yes...good plan to fly with the standard battery when you visit. NAV Drone is fine for a visitor with a micro drone.

[@GeraldMcFall]

WOW! Learn something new every time I watch your Videos Don! Thank you! So advanced pilots flying bigger drones are regulated to 400 feet but Mini under 250g are allowed to go higher? (if you can visually see the mini that high ;-0 ) what about the BVLOS rule? does it apply to sub 250 drones? Thank you again for all your time you put into these Very informative videos Don!

[@DonJoyce]

Thanks Gerald. As stated in the video, there are only a few rules that apply to sub250g drones.

[@teamtlo2021]

Hello Don, great video. You mention your DPAC Safety Course in this video. How does this compare to the Canadian Drone Pilots "Basic Operations" exam? As I am preparing myself for the Basic test (using all your other videos), I'm just curious how the two may compare or complement each other. Thanks again.

[@DonJoyce]

The Transport Canada RPAS Basic Exam is the official requirement for certification. The exam covers many irrelevant topics and misses practical elements. Our DPAC Safety Course actually teaches you the key stuff you should know. Hope that helps.

[@derekcox6531]

Thanks Don,it’s good to get a reminder now and then about the sub 250g rules. I think more and more people are using them these days. I have an air3,but I don’t get to fly it nearly as much as I fly the mini3 pro. I’m a little jealous of your mini4 ownership….I want one but my wife will point at my shiny new air 3 and direct a frowny face in my general direction if I even look at a mini4.😂

[@DonJoyce]

Thanks, Derek! Hey, even my late wife directed a frowny face at me when I considered the Mini 4!!!! But she let me go ahead as long as I sold the Mini 3 Pro, which will happen soon.

[@rcafmaintainer3723]

I should have watched this before buying the one with the combo plus. I just received it today, I just ordered the 249 compatible batteries. I’m now looking to get the Basic licence, time permitting.

[@DonJoyce]

I'm glad this video helped!

[@CanmoreCochraneHomes]

Hi Don. Something to note that some people may not expect, but I believe you mentioned in the video is that the mini3 ultralight battery when used in a mini4 will push it over 250g. A great question will be, will transport Canada update all mini4 drone owner’s registration to show the updated manufacturers declaration to fly near people? (When it get updated…)

[@DonJoyce]

Yes I said the mini 3 batteries are compatible but heavier... 8 grams I think.

[@F_A_D]

Thanks a lot for a very informative video, as usual. Don I could use some of your help. I have passed the advanced written exam more than a year ago, and I have already registered for in person flight review. But the lack of information on knowing what they expect has held me back.☹️ what do you suggest I do?

[@DonJoyce]

The good news is that most people find the Flight Review the easiest part of becoming an Advanced RPAS Pilot! Here are two videos I strongly recommend you watch to prepare for yours: kzbin.info/www/bejne/opLMpaZvapyLfZI and kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHusq3-ChcpsodE

[@georgetallon697]

I'm thinking of buying one of these exact drones but just heard about the “Countering CCP Drones Act'? Is the US Congress about to ban DJI drones and is Canada going to follow?

[@DonJoyce]

I doubt Canada will follow the US on this one.

[@swimmom4605]

Thank you for your video. It’s very helpful. As you mentioned, we can fly over provincial or municipal park, but no landing or taking off. In order to keep my micro drone in sight, I might have to walk through the park, is it allowed? My question is, while the drone fly over the park, where should the pilot be to be legally flying the drone? Thank you!

[@DonJoyce]

Thanks for watching! If you are operating the drone and you (the pilot) are in a park that says 'no drones', then you are crossing the line of acceptable use and liable for trespassing and/or fines. Regardless of where you took off.

[@thedroneforestranger]

Hi Don. I am preparing a forestry report for a client just inside class E airspace. He knows that I do drone flights over people's property to help with that plan preparation. I still stick with my DJI Mini 2 which is certainly adequate for that purpose. Should I be concerned?

[@DonJoyce]

As long as you are extremely careful about the presence of manned aircraft, and stay at reasonably low altitudes (I recommend less than 30m AGL in any such circumstance), you should be fine. Do be aware of privacy concerns when flying over someone else's property, and consider not turning on the camera unless you are over the client's property. A great idea, if possible, is to talk to the other property owners to let them know what you are doing and why...I'm sure they would appreciate your concern!

[@wanderingmisfitshockey8099]

Hi Don, any input on the possible DJI ban in the US and chances of that happening here? Thanks in advance.

[@DonJoyce]

That is extremely unlikely to happen here.

[@wanderingmisfitshockey8099]

@@DonJoyce that's good news. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out stateside. I definitely feel for the drone users down there who are feeling like they are in limbo.

[@ripinskimoinskidoinski]

I saw a video recently that the DJI ban has been been dealt a huge blow, but that wont stop the legislators from trying again I am sure.

[@DonJoyce]

​@@wanderingmisfitshockey8099Truly a ridiculous situation in the US.

[@1EagleDave]

It had been put on hold temp from what I'm hearing but hey who really knows right.. How this helps great channel Don your content is great​@@ripinskimoinskidoinski

[@GosCee]

Very informative, Don. As usual, well done. Thank you for sharing.

[@DonJoyce]

Thanks!

[@jimzhang2562]

Thanks for the video. Really helpful. I just got the Mini 4pro as a birthday gift and was confused by the regulation.

[@DonJoyce]

Yes, the regulations can be quite confusing. I'm glad to hear this video was helpful. I recommend you also take the free safety course from the Drone Pilot Association of Canada (DPAC): www.dronepilotassociationofcanada.com/courses/dpac-safety-course/

[@chriscunningham9956]

Thank you! I just bought a mini 4 pro! And well was about to return it because of all the rumors on u tube. I received fly more kit recently ! Should I weigh my drone before using it??

[@DonJoyce]

I can't even imagine the nonsense rumours you heard! The Mini 4 Pro is absolutely fantastic... enjoy! Weigh it if it gives you peace of mind.

[@erickjuliusadaavez1220]

Hi Don. Im from Philippines can i bring my Mini 4 pro in canada? Im Going to New Foundland for a Vacation with family. Thank you

[@DonJoyce]

Yes! Drones under 250g do not need to be registered, you don't need a drone pilot certification to fly it, and only a few sensible rules apply...as discussed in this video! Enjoy your vacation in beautiful Newfoundland!!

[@martinstreasurehunting]

Great 👍🏻 video like always Don.

[@fadaazahira531]

so good sharing Don Joyce thank you 16:17/LK HAVE A GOOD DAY

[@DonJoyce]

Thanks!

[@ahboo2003]

Thanks for sharing such a detailed information! I was thinking to buy a dji mini 4 pro. After watch this video. I think I will not purchase this item any more. Living in North Vancouver, it is meaningless to own a mini drone if one cannot fly this drone in provincial parks or municipal parks.

[@DonJoyce]

Glad to hear you found the video helpful. Sorry about your local situation.

[@calvin14888]

Don, appreciated the video but it's almost exactly the same as the Mini 3 one. It'll be more interesting to have it differently every year...😅

[@DonJoyce]

Yes, you are correct...I followed much of the same script, adding a few clarifications and expansions. I find the approach I've used in the 'how do the regulations apply' videos (and there have been several over the years) is easy to follow and understand, and since these videos need to stand on their own, I don't want to break something that's not broken. That said, I'll try to shake things up a bit for the 'Mini 5'...or whatever comes next.

[@Warpig639]

Can someone give me contact information about the drone pilot app. There is a contact us within the app but I don’t want to open myself up to being tracked by everyone buy turning off security settings on my phone.

[@DonJoyce]

[e-mail]

[@CanadaLifeVlogs]

Hey Don, I bought new phone and when trying to install your app - it asking to pay again

[@DonJoyce]

Just realized I hadn't replied...sorry...please send an email to [e-mail]

[@rejurp4278]

Very informative for new drone enthusiasts... thank you so much. Now I can fly my drone confidently .

[@DonJoyce]

Excellent!

[@A_Biking_Viking]

Awesome video! Thanks for all this information and guidance! 👍🏼

[@DonJoyce]

Glad it was helpful!

[@1dcr1s1s]

Will the DJI Mini 4 Pro wide angle lens or ND filters make the drone go over 250 grams?

[@DonJoyce]

It will be close, but you'll be fine. The removal of the stock lens cover basically equals the weight of filters.

[@OkorieIfeanyiDarlington]

Hey Sir I am pretty new to these drone regulations what if I get the air 3 and a basic license and a special flight operation certificate as a foreign pilot can I use my drone as a wedding videographer and content creator to share on KZbin and social media as well as my website?

[@DonJoyce]

Yes, assuming the locations for your wedding shoots are in Class G airspace. Otherwise you'll need your Advanced (or a sub250g drone)

[@PatrickHobley]

Flying to canada. Got basic exam done. Although not needed. Is there anything else to be aware of? Flying Saturday

[@DonJoyce]

Welcome! Everything you need to know is in this video. The trickiest part is staying out of restricted areas like Niagara Falls. The DJI Fly app may give only warnings...stay out of zones starting with "CYR".

[@PatrickHobley]

@DonJoyce thanks. I have the Canadian airspace site. Looks like fine out of meaford and Collingwood. Few aerodrome suggest 1km away.

[@PatrickHobley]

@DonJoyce OK so no need to register. Would like to but can't.

[@arronotoole3789]

can the mini 4 fly within 3nm of an airport without licences for commercial purposes?

[@DonJoyce]

Yes, absolutely!

[@rreiter]

Great breakdown Don, any newbie should be able to understand this.

[@DonJoyce]

Thanks! Hopefully newbies will watch.

[@cyruse7027]

This is a great video Don. Thanks for laying out everything so clearly!

[@DonJoyce]

I'm glad you found it helpful!

[@aikibudo41]

Super vidéo, je viens d’acheter un Dji mini 4 pro et votre vidéo a répondu à plusieurs questions. Merci pour tout.

[@DonJoyce]

Ravi d'entendre que ma vidéo a répondu à certaines de vos questions ! Amusez-vous et volez en toute sécurité !

[@barbarajoyce6865]

Great overview Don. Comprehensive info as usual

[@DonJoyce]

Thank you, Barb!

[@UnlikelyDesigner]

Great video! I have a couple of questions that I would really appreciate an answer if possible. I just bought a Mini 4 Pro here in Alberta and was wondering if a micro drone was allowed to be used in a provincial park such as Kananaskis or Waterton Lakes. I know it differs for every park, but was a bit confused with the official websites. The respective websites only generalize that drones are not permitted unless you have a permit, but the NAV Drone app does not state any such restrictions for micro drones. Only warnings. I would love to get close-up mountain shots, but wanted to make sure it's a legal operation before proceeding. Another question I have is regarding commercial use. You stated that micro drones can be used for real estate purposes. Would I legally need a drone pilot license to use the drone commercially at all? I know similar rules do apply in the states, but just wasn't sure on Canada. Thanks!

[@DonJoyce]

Thanks! The NAV Drone app does not show provincial parks at all, which is why you don't see any restrictions. My Drone Pilot Canada app does show provincial parks, and a brief policy statement based on my research. Bottom line is Alberta provincial parks do not allow drones of any size to land or take off within their boundaries without permission from the park superintendent. Your second question was answered in the video: you do not need a drone pilot certification to fly commercially in Canada. The Canadian drone rules do not differentiate between recreational and commercial flights.

[@UnlikelyDesigner]

@@DonJoyce Thanks for the response! I will probably have to find some non provincial park areas then to shoot some videos it seems. For the second question, I must have missed the part you mentioned. At least no issues with commercial use. I appreciate it, Don!

[@mikehughhawk]

​@@UnlikelyDesigner you missed the key part of information. You can film you simply can't take off or land within the park

[@swimmom4605]

Does it mean I can take off my drone outside provincial or municipal park, fly over it and land outside the provincial or municipal park? How about green belt? I live close by to green belt, can my drone take off or fly over the green belt? Thank you. You video is very helpful, as I am still deciding if I should get a dji mini pro 4. I would like to make sure my drone has place to fly. Thank you so much!

[@jameshildreth7839]

Thank you. Does this also apply to a US citizen on vacation in Canada?

[@DonJoyce]

Absolutely! If you are not a Canadian Citizen or Permanent Resident you have only two choices to fly in Canada: Fly a drone under 250g (per the information in this video) OR apply for and receive what is called an SFOC (Special Flight Authorization Certificate) for anything over 250g.

[@gogotrololo]

New subscriber here, I'm glad you're out here keeping everyone honest! I'm a new basic pilot, and you're helping clear all the confusion around all the regulations set out by TC. I appreciate your help keeping my nose clean lol We should be paying YOU the $5 registration fee for providing a service to RPA pilots

[@DonJoyce]

Welcome, and thank you for the kind words. BTW, there are a number of links under the video to ways you can support my work...including simply buying me a coffee!

[@sergebelair7577]

Merci Don ! encore une fois un excellent vidéo, éducative pour les nouveaux pilote de drone.

[@DonJoyce]

Merci Serge! Et même certains pilotes expérimentés pourraient apprendre quelque chose de cette vidéo.

[@jimsdroneing]

more great info Don good stuff luv mini 4 pro

[@DonJoyce]

Thanks, Jim!

[@udayanthaoshada9590]

I'm an international student here in Canada...Can I fly the mini 4 without taking the license??

[@DonJoyce]

Yes!! I do encourage you to take the easy, free DPAC safety course.

[@udayanthaoshada9590]

@@DonJoyce thank you Don

[@Colleen532]

Hi Don. I fly the mini 3 and I love it. Do you notice much difference between the mini 3 and mini 4? I would like to get an upgrade but unfortunately cant afford it at the moment.

[@DonJoyce]

I have owned both and honestly, there's not that much difference. The mini 4 has superior obstacle avoidance, for sure. Does the Mini 3 have 4K/60fps? I use that a lot on the Mini 4. Otherwise the differences are not significant, in my opinion.

[@Colleen532]

Thanks Don. Yes it does. I think I'll just stick to the mini 3 for now. Thanks for your advice. 😊

[@NovaEastCoast]

Hi Don, I'm thinking of getting the Googles 3 to go with my mini 4 pro. Is this legal or does it go against the VLOS rule. Thanks for your time.

[@DonJoyce]

It is certainly legal, but you do need a spotter when flying with FPV goggles.

[@NovaEastCoast]

@@DonJoyce Thanks for that info Don. Much appreciated! Doesn't surprise me. Cheers

[@DonJoyce]

BTW, I flew my Mini 4 Pro using my Goggles 3 today for the first time! Very cool experience...very much like flying the Avata 2, but with the higher risk of damage since the Mini 4 pro is pretty delicate compared to the Avata 2.

[@luciegagnon1238]

Great video! Very informative! I am a new drone pilot and I learned a lot watching your video. Excellent presentation. Thank you, Don.

[@DonJoyce]

Hi Lucie! I'm glad you found the video helpful!! You may want to join (FREE) the Drone Pilot Association of Canada for further resources. One key thing we offer is an online Safety Course (yes, free!) that provides great information about safe and legal drone practices.

[@luciegagnon1238]

@@DonJoyce i have joined the DPAC and passed the test for the Basic Certificate even if I don’t need it right now with the mini4pro. Thanks for the info.

[@DonJoyce]

​@@luciegagnon1238Great decisions, Lucie! Happy droning!

[@steveb013]

Hi Don, a question about to fly with the mini 4 pro, in your video you said , stay away from anywhere manned aircraft are flying of might be flying, if I check on NAV Canada of nav drone viewer, it said, "the requested operation is located less than 3 nm from the center of a registered aerodrome, Pay attention " so it not illegal to fly, but just pay attention, its not very clear, can you help please thanks

[@DonJoyce]

Hi Steve! When flying a sub250g drone, you are free to do many types of flights that would be otherwise illegal in a larger drone. So, yes, you can fly within 3NM of a registered aerodrome with a sub250g drone...you just need to be very careful. Be aware of the traffic patterns and stay away from them. This will require you show good judgment. For example, it would NOT be advisable to fly near the ends of the runways...planes are likely going to be taking off or landing there. On the other hand 2 km (for example) off the edges of the runways, at low altitude (say less than 30m) would likely be very safe since manned aircraft are unlikely to be flying there. I hope that helps.

[@steveb013]

@@DonJoyce thanks Don for the quick answer, I have another one please, when I checked in my area with the drone site selection tool ( check the first and 2nd links please ) I see this and with nav drone I see different things ( check the 3rd link ), can you explain why ? image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/10/1/1709517847-img-0752.jpg image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/10/1/1709517847-img-0753.jpg image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2024/10/1/1709517975-img-0754.png Thanks

[@DonJoyce]

Please ask Nav Drone support. (good luck)

[@-G-Mac-]

Another great video! Have you tested the toroidal propellers yet?

[@DonJoyce]

Toroidal props have their place, but not on a drone like this. You need custom access to speed control settings. It would also negate the foldability and void the warranty! Otherwise...

[@razaencanada7116]

If I am a temporary resident, can I get the flight certificate that is worth 10 dollars? Or do I need to be a permanent resident or a citizen?

[@DonJoyce]

Since you commented on my Mini 4 video, I'll start with that: if you are flying a drone less than 250g (like the Mini 4 Pro with the regular batteries), you do not need a pilot certificate and you don't need to be a Canadian citizen or permanent resident. On the other hand, if you are planning to fly a drone over 250g (eg, Air 3), you need to register your drone, for which you will need to be a Canadian citizen or P.R. You CAN take your Basic Pilot exam as a temporary resident...but then you will need to apply for an SFOC (Special Flight Authorization Certificate) as a foreign pilot. Bottom line: I recommend a sub250g drone...and take the DPAC Safety Course: www.dronepilotassociationofcanada.com/courses/dpac-safety-course/

[@razaencanada7116]

@@DonJoyce I still don't buy the drone, but if my doubt was that, because I am a temporary resident in Canada, I live in Saskatchewan and my intention is to be a temporary resident, I only want the drone to make aerial shots and upload them to my channel, I don't want to do anything professional, so I better buy the mini 4 pro with normal batteries to avoid problems?

[@DonJoyce]

Yes, that's right: The Mini 4 Pro is a fabulous drone. The Mini 3 and Mini 2 SE are great choices too, and cheaper.

[@razaencanada7116]

@@DonJoyce Hello, I came to buy my drone, Dji 4 mini pro, but in the end I didn't buy it because the one in the store told me that I can't fly it anywhere in the city, I live in Saskatoon Saskatchewan, I don't know how real that is? Thank you

[@jaydenijtsma1134]

@@razaencanada7116Saskatoon is probably restricted air space so you could fly it but stay below 30m.

[@guyrandom6151]

what about DJI RID is it true that it is not activated in Canada

[@DonJoyce]

Honestly, I believe DJI's Remote ID is activated in Canada, but I can't prove it one way or the other.

[@yvanc3842]

Thank you Don. Great video.

[@DonJoyce]

Thanks for watching

[@calb0]

hey Don with a basic canada drone license and a dji air 3 is there anywhere at all around ottawa or surroundings that we are able to fly? seems so restrictive

[@DonJoyce]

Much of Ottawa is covered by the Class C control zone of the Ottawa airport, but communities like Kanata in the west and Orleans in the East are outside this zone. Please check the Drone Pilot Canada app or NRV Drone Site Sélection Tool for details.

[@calb0]

@@DonJoyce thx Don i appreciate it

[@jamesr124]

Great video is there any additional information for someone coming from the states and wanting to fly?

[@DonJoyce]

If you are flying a sub 250g drone and coming from the US, this is all you need to know. If you're flying a larger drone, you'll need an SFOC....which is the subject of next week's video...as it happens!

[@jamesr124]

@@DonJoyce awesome! I can't wait. I have a mini 4 pro and a Mavic 3 Classic. From my understanding, the SFOC was difficult to get in a few weeks time so I just gave up on that.

[@TheMaximamustang]

Thanks for the information on the new DJI.

[@DonJoyce]

LOL...definitely starting to give DJI a run for the money!

[@timelesstruths]

Great post and the app is truly the best way to go.

[@DonJoyce]

Thanks!

[@AcrossContinents-wy6rt]

Suuuuuuuuper useful! Thanks a lot

[@DonJoyce]

Great to hear!

[@cooksmcgee8344]

thank you don much appreciated!!

[@DonJoyce]

You are very welcome

[@cooksmcgee8344]

@@DonJoyce keep it up!!

[@zdzichuZ]

thanks for that

[@DonJoyce]

You're welcome!

[@SkyLensStudios]

Great summary Don.

[@DonJoyce]

Thanks, Scott!!

[@guyrandom6151]

same as for the mini 3 pro ?

[@DonJoyce]

Yes, exactly the same.

[@hdrlaurentidesphotovideo2898]

Awesome info, thx

[@DonJoyce]

Glad you found it helpful!

[@007thebigdaddy]

Thx Don ❤

[@DonJoyce]

You are very welcome

[@MrNategates]

Maybe it’s different in a major city.. The honest truth for me is though, NO ONE will ever check if your drone falls within a certain category. I have been flying for 10 years.. not once has anyone ever questioned or even approached me on anything. I have my ‘pro’ licence & register my drones, but I could get away without it. Common sense & curtesy is the biggest thing.. fly with those and you won’t have trouble. Government regulations have been created due to idiots flying.

[@DonJoyce]

While it is rare, people do regularly get checked...but normally in the context of doing something else wrong. As you say, applying common sense and courtesy go a long way towards staying out of trouble (in all walks of life, as it happens).

[@cindybalidiong1642]

Am i allowed to take off and land beside a provincial park? Or fly my dji mini 4 within provincial park at close range to see a lake above? i did ask a park operator and he said yes but then when i went to a different provincial park they said no.

[@DonJoyce]

You need a park superintendent approval to take off or land WITHIN the park, but you can fly over the park without that approval. I encourage you to be highly respectful of wildlife and park visitors.

[@cindybalidiong1642]

Thank you!

[@PMP77]

I talked to nav Canada this mini drone will probably need to have advanced soon with this drone because of this loop hole that allows you to fly it in restricted air space because of its weight . They are most likely looking to change this the fact that this mini can basically fly anywhere because of its weight. You don’t need to have advance to fly in airspace that needs advanced because of the drone weight… just a heads up for everyone trying to avoid getting advanced by using these minis.

[@DonJoyce]

First of all, it's not a 'loop hole'; the sub250g drone rules are a deliberately designed part of the regulations. Second, Transport Canada sets the rules, not NAV CANADA, and at the moment there is absolutely no sign of any change to the rules for these micro drones. Third, if there WAS a change coming, it would be many years away from implementation given the pace of TC regulatory changes. Aside from all of that, it is precisely for this reason that I promote safe and careful drone operations, particularly for sub250g drone pilots: we don't want or NEED more regulations for these extremely low risk drones.

[@PMP77]

I talked directly to nav canada and transport Canada about these sub 250 drone, just because a drone is slightly smaller then say a mavic 2 or 3 doesn't mean that you should be able to fly in restricted without having a advanced license, they are talking about changing this rule, its a loop hole... right now that allows people to buy a mini drone not get certified to fly in advanced air space.. i talk to numerous people real estate etc. that will use these to fly right next to an airport without any clue what they are doing and just bypass DJI fly safe with ease. they aren't low risk drones, they are higher risk because you dont need any knowledge what so ever to just take off fly anywhere you want. Regardless.. at this point this hasn't happen but just saying they are talking about what to do about this situation. Feel free to call them if you like. and we do need regulation on these smaller drone because it lets pilots with no experience fly anywhere in restricted when a restricted pilot has to get a license to do the same thing with a slightly larger drone. if a 250 g drone fly into a jet engine and a 800 g drone flys into a jet engine the out come is the same.. @@DonJoyce

[@DonJoyce]

A loop hole is an inadvertent gap in the rules....this is NOT inadvertent. I was at DPAC's quarterly review with Transport Canada's RPAS team. While there may be 'talk' in some circles about changing the sub250g rules, there is no plan in place or expected. As you may have noticed, DPAC is spending a lot of time and energy on educational material for novices and sub250g pilots. This is likely to have a much bigger impact than new regulations.

[@JohnnyPerth]

lol you’re lost bud

[@imomo4]

If you break the rules mentioned here, how will anyone know? How can a drone pilot get caught for flying their mini 4 pro?

[@DonJoyce]

Well, unless you are doing something really stupid around an airport where they may have drone detection gear, it is unlikely you will be 'caught'. Note that those detection systems have ranges up to 20km! Otherwise, you would only be 'caught' if something went wrong and someone got hurt, for example. I recommend you fly safely and within the rules.