Donna Summer - State of Independence | The Story Behind The Song | Top 2000 a gogo

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4 жыл бұрын

Donna Summer (1948 - 2012) tells us the story behind 'State of Independece'. The song is originally by Jon & Vangelis, but with the production by Quincy Jones and with an all-star choir the version by Donna Summer becomes a big hit. A short documentary by Top 2000 a gogo from 2008 (Dutch Public Television).

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@weath1881
@weath1881 3 жыл бұрын
I think she's right when she says it's one of the best songs ever recorded.
@steverdms
@steverdms 3 жыл бұрын
I miss her so much! What a legend! Her voice will live forever.
@freddielaker2
@freddielaker2 4 жыл бұрын
she sadly missed by a lot of us who loved her voice..... x
@anibalcesarnishizk2205
@anibalcesarnishizk2205 2 жыл бұрын
It is a pity,indeed.
@rickyparrilla2426
@rickyparrilla2426 3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea all these legendary artist did background vocals for this great song. I fell in love the first time I heard this song. Donna you are Greatly missed.
@TeddyBear-ii4yc
@TeddyBear-ii4yc 6 ай бұрын
There's rumoured to be a reggae version by someone... it's not hard to see as it's basically reggae anyway. 👍
@Xacman37
@Xacman37 Ай бұрын
Fun fact. This is the same night that the song we are the world was born. This is where the idea came from, why Donna wasn’t included is a mystery but my thoughts are, she just had two children, and she was busy being a mama.
@w.a.m.vandenberg178
@w.a.m.vandenberg178 2 жыл бұрын
Dont forget that this song comes from Vangelis with Jon Anderson. RIP the Master Vangelis 😢🙏🏻
@HeyLisa
@HeyLisa 4 ай бұрын
I prefer the Jon & Vangelis version
@mrs.schmenkman
@mrs.schmenkman 4 жыл бұрын
She is still one of my favorite vocalists
@fabiwilliams4644
@fabiwilliams4644 5 ай бұрын
I find this song so spiritual & nobody else could've sung it better. Miss you Donna
@rocky01ist
@rocky01ist 3 жыл бұрын
Still miss Donna so much
@tonynegron1927
@tonynegron1927 3 жыл бұрын
👍 Love her version of that beautiful song. 🌹 D.S. (1948-2012) 🎤 My favorite "Diva". Class of '83!
@karenkalasy8251
@karenkalasy8251 3 жыл бұрын
Her voice is so spiritual and I had many records of hersxx
@29mirstudio
@29mirstudio 3 жыл бұрын
Her voice is warm syrup dripping down my body.
@SweptAway529
@SweptAway529 7 ай бұрын
Phenomenal song that oddly peaked at #41 here in the US - Europe got it right sending the song into the top ten throughout many countries!
@rf6724
@rf6724 6 ай бұрын
No 1 in Holland
@thesatisfiedcustomer4869
@thesatisfiedcustomer4869 4 жыл бұрын
What a woman. What a voice. She Is the GOAT for me when it come to female vocalists.
@seanwood8883
@seanwood8883 Жыл бұрын
💯
@enricovankeeken1624
@enricovankeeken1624 Жыл бұрын
@@seanwood8883 ❔i don*t rEAlly like disco (music) Donna*s is dIfferent though / Germany mUst have influenced her music alOt / i feel love will Always be played in clubs / the minimalistic beat of that song brings you in some kind of trance ... and just mAkes you wanna dAnce❕
@gotti6969
@gotti6969 6 ай бұрын
ABSOLUTELY!!
@gotti6969
@gotti6969 6 ай бұрын
ABSOLUTELY!!
@richardbutterfield412
@richardbutterfield412 Жыл бұрын
One of the best songs ever recorded in the history of music! Quincy and Donna - a recipe for excellence.
@voiceimage
@voiceimage Жыл бұрын
You didnt have enough time here. You are missed. This Anderson/Vangelis song is one of the best ever, and you NAILED it.
@joandominguez1941
@joandominguez1941 8 ай бұрын
Great song..the voice❤
@zentraveler1834
@zentraveler1834 Жыл бұрын
This has been one of my top five songs of my lifetime.
@rabit818
@rabit818 3 жыл бұрын
Hair raising moment (in a good way) when Donna hit the high notes. Donna and Whitney are simply one of the greatest.
@bmw3842
@bmw3842 2 жыл бұрын
It truly is a great song ..
@marionnye3690
@marionnye3690 Ай бұрын
loved this song ...i always thought it was when she became a christian s this song is very spiritual xRIP Donna
@seanwood8883
@seanwood8883 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I just thought that was just a normal backing band/choir, not the likes of all those megastars such as MJ, Christopher Cross, dionne Warwick, stevie and the rest. State of independence is just surreal and outta this world literally. A real masterpiece
@quantize
@quantize 2 жыл бұрын
both versions are fantastic, a tribute to Vangelis' genius
@cyounger5716
@cyounger5716 Жыл бұрын
Mostly written by Jon
@steveoglesby4120
@steveoglesby4120 10 ай бұрын
@@cyounger5716 That's Jon Anderson from YES. His version from his solo album "Change We Must" is the definition of EPIC. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5Kbm3mrn9-KpLM
@stuartj1968
@stuartj1968 3 жыл бұрын
One of very few tracks that gives me goosebumps.
@denonhd8
@denonhd8 4 жыл бұрын
So, no mention of Jon Anderson (Yes) & Vangelis (Aphrodites Child) as the composers - and original performers, on their “Friends of Mr. Cairo” album.
@twistedworld635
@twistedworld635 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, kind of pissed me off too. Wanted to rant about it, but think I'll just add to this comment and see if we can get this to appear at the top of the comments. The entire video I was thinking; wasn't this created by Vangelis? When is he going to appear?
@monicasojka2738
@monicasojka2738 4 жыл бұрын
Truly!!! Love the original!!!
@mr_don_key
@mr_don_key 4 жыл бұрын
typical for the NTR to not do proper research on the origins of tracks. Only popularity counts, not the REAL deal. (sure the description on youtube says the proper credits (Jon and Vangelis) but since this documentary is from 2008, it's not IN the video. so this video description: I call that improper damage control.. SHAME ON YOU NTR! Just delete it all together, and interview Jon and Vangelis instead
@teemusid
@teemusid 4 жыл бұрын
It's the 4th best song on that album.
@zuur303
@zuur303 4 жыл бұрын
@@mr_don_key tantrum.gif
@mr.mealldaylong8013
@mr.mealldaylong8013 3 жыл бұрын
I SWEAR...I 👂👂to ATLEAST 3-4 DONNA SUMMER SONGS EVERYDAY yo...💯🔥
@seattlejayde
@seattlejayde 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say THIS Donna Summers segment is SUPERBLY edited! VERY VERY VERY well done! Thank you!
@alphatrion100
@alphatrion100 Жыл бұрын
Dutch television.
@NYRNGR1
@NYRNGR1 10 ай бұрын
Summer.
@SaturdayKitchenLive
@SaturdayKitchenLive 3 жыл бұрын
Rip Donna Summer.
@papasy3748
@papasy3748 6 ай бұрын
This song is slowly becoming my favorite of all time, it has everything you could hope for in a piece of music, poignant, euphoric, melancholy, funky, incredibly well-made. RIP to the queen
@jochemjonker3362
@jochemjonker3362 4 жыл бұрын
Als kind,raakten de songs met Donna Summer me al,het begon bij het nummer "the Hostage".Die zomer was ik met mijn ouders en zus op vakantie op Schiermonnikoog, hat een Philips draagbare radio en hoorde dit nummer,met het telefoongesprek als intermezzo in het nummer. Ook de hits die hierna kwamen,waren top,waren vaak ook richting wijzend qua muziek ontwikkelingen(Love to love you baby" heeft tamelijk veel raakvlakken met bands als Kraftwerk). Ze maakte niet bepaald inhoudsloze disco,terwijl de stijl van Disco altijd is beschouwd,als muziek met weinig diepgang,message en oorspronkelijkheid.
@bakkerem1967
@bakkerem1967 Жыл бұрын
Remember this song from the eighties, it was one of the first songs I really liked. Still epic composition !
@kervinrodriguez1833
@kervinrodriguez1833 4 жыл бұрын
Rip Donna😢
@elove2.038
@elove2.038 2 жыл бұрын
Legends!!!
@rdo1231
@rdo1231 4 жыл бұрын
legend
@tiedupsmurf
@tiedupsmurf 4 жыл бұрын
Great voice Great days Great tooooon
@qualaup
@qualaup 4 жыл бұрын
Waanzinnig nummer, waanzinnig geproduceerd, waanzinnig gezongen!
@JackN808
@JackN808 20 күн бұрын
There is more to this song than what we hear. Every time I hear it it makes me cry for joy. This song was Donna's song to the Father of Lights, Jesus Christ whom she was a follower of. 🙏🙏
@stephenord3403
@stephenord3403 3 жыл бұрын
That list of musicians, jeepers. Thanks black America 🇺🇸. Love 💘 from England
@philmccracken179
@philmccracken179 2 жыл бұрын
White people made this song. Quit kissing ass🤮
@user-hw8kw4hz9l
@user-hw8kw4hz9l 3 жыл бұрын
The beat of "STATE OF INDEPENDENCE" used by Quincy and Michael Jackson in the "BILLY JEAN" . Quincy was listening the album " THE FRIENDS OF Mr CAIRO".
@rde4017
@rde4017 4 жыл бұрын
I'm still not sure which is the best version of this unspeakably beautiful masterpiece.
@TheFilwud
@TheFilwud 4 жыл бұрын
The original, I always though Donna's lacked feeling. There was a very "up" feeling in the originals, Donna's feels a bit mechanical to me.
@petermeeuwis8194
@petermeeuwis8194 3 жыл бұрын
And your a great singer
@TensegrityEnergy
@TensegrityEnergy 2 жыл бұрын
@3.29 good old Bruce. Without that man many great songs would not have sounded so great.
@rdtkga
@rdtkga 2 жыл бұрын
Love all versions of this song. Jon Anderson And Tobmobile version is my personal favorite.
@arbonne1805
@arbonne1805 Жыл бұрын
Mine too.
@tom080955
@tom080955 3 жыл бұрын
Truly our disco royalty, this was our queen...she is missed The song by Jon Anderson and vandelis was brightened by her version
@macsnafu
@macsnafu 4 жыл бұрын
Donna Summer sang a Jon Anderson and Vangelis song? What an unusual connection. Especially since Donna's voice is lower than Jon's! ;-)
@SniffyPoo
@SniffyPoo 5 ай бұрын
Miss Donna
@chrisclarke7828
@chrisclarke7828 Жыл бұрын
There are times in our lives when something is amazing . This is. How sad we lost Donna early and also many more mentioned here.
@sandraatkins2539
@sandraatkins2539 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, talented Ms. Donna Summer we miss you so.
@orsonkaart1853
@orsonkaart1853 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent !
@markleon411
@markleon411 3 жыл бұрын
I was such a big fan of Jon & Vangelis and I was horrified when Donna Summer recorded this song. It deflected all attention away from the original. Then I started to appreciate this version for what it is and the incredible choir on the recording.
@SmartRobot-wc2fb
@SmartRobot-wc2fb 2 жыл бұрын
Mark Thorne-Barbosa: Like Lavoisier believed, "matter was neither created nor destroyed in chemical reactions". Regardless of the original, which only a few people these days know about, this version is a pop-gospel-funk infused spiritual experience, like Donna herself said here. So, why bother?
@harlandted
@harlandted 4 жыл бұрын
Omg. Thank u
@prog1962
@prog1962 4 жыл бұрын
Dit nummer heeft altijd mijn stem voor de top 2000.Sinds The Hostage een van mijn favoriete zangeressen
@MarcKloos
@MarcKloos 4 жыл бұрын
Met Sjef van Oekel?
@prog1962
@prog1962 4 жыл бұрын
@@MarcKloos Jawel...dat ben ik dus...reeds
@BloemencorsoNL
@BloemencorsoNL 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Vangelis 17-05-2022 > Precies 10 jaar eerder Donna 17-05-2012
@pedrosalinas9979
@pedrosalinas9979 4 жыл бұрын
She was so f...freaking sexy. God may have her in Heaven. Rest in peace so called Black Panther, Queen of Disco, Donna the predecessor of Madonna.
@tomatosausage4258
@tomatosausage4258 4 жыл бұрын
No, not in the same sentence please
@seattlejayde
@seattlejayde 2 жыл бұрын
I love her
@TheMoises1213
@TheMoises1213 4 жыл бұрын
May she RIP 😔❤️
@anthonya.antonio
@anthonya.antonio 4 жыл бұрын
This song was way ahead of its time and was not radio-friendly for 1982. If it was such a great song, why wasn't it more popular? As the second single, it didn't give the album the push it needed and after a few weeks, both the album and song fell off the charts. The song did well in some parts of Europe, Holland.
@Leftatalbuquerque
@Leftatalbuquerque 3 жыл бұрын
The followup should have been Mystery Of Love.
@anthonya.antonio
@anthonya.antonio 3 жыл бұрын
@@Leftatalbuquerque Agreed. Perfect single
@Fabian-jl3hb
@Fabian-jl3hb Ай бұрын
It was huge in europe. American mainstream pop radio's were less receptive to Donna's music since the disco demolition day.
@GoodMrDawes
@GoodMrDawes 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@Burps___
@Burps___ 4 жыл бұрын
Chicago 💜 #DonnaSummer.
@edwinprasing8992
@edwinprasing8992 3 жыл бұрын
I think her version is the best, but i'm missing credits in this video for Jon& Vangelis....
@seattlejayde
@seattlejayde 2 жыл бұрын
I happened on this and was EXCELLENT!
@gcooper642
@gcooper642 4 жыл бұрын
Jon Anderson has such a unique way of crafting song lyrics... anyway 40 odd years later I've just realised the lyrics aren't This state of independence shall we, it's shall be. Lol
@bricharloe4337
@bricharloe4337 4 жыл бұрын
Donna rules
@leonardpattison2816
@leonardpattison2816 4 жыл бұрын
Love too Love U Baby
@richiereverb
@richiereverb 4 ай бұрын
No Mention of the writer and composer Jon Anderson and Vangelis . What a stunning song ! Written by Englishman Jon Anderson from YES !
@hesselklijnstra4188
@hesselklijnstra4188 2 жыл бұрын
❤️
@peter_aka_hamamass
@peter_aka_hamamass 2 жыл бұрын
To me only the J&V version has pure magic ❤️ RIP Vangelis 🙏
@raymondhartmeijer9300
@raymondhartmeijer9300 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a big Yes-fan, but I disagree. Quincy Jones and Donna made something very special from the original, for me, the Donna Summer version is the better one
@quantize
@quantize 2 жыл бұрын
nah, nothing hits you like that final wall of vocals, they're both great, the original is more naieve, the Summer version is funkier and more epic.
@cal_nevari
@cal_nevari Жыл бұрын
@@raymondhartmeijer9300 I agree. And I am a big fan of Jon Anderson and Vangelis and the versions of YES that include Jon Anderson. But I really feel more of an emotional charge from her live version and her studio version of State of Independence than Jon & Vangelis' version. Which is still very good imo.
@lynby6231
@lynby6231 Жыл бұрын
Yeah she turns it into a dance song and it loses everything
@danielberiain5580
@danielberiain5580 2 ай бұрын
Bonita version de un tema de vangelis. Es interesante oir la version original antes de poder opinar
@wajobu
@wajobu 4 жыл бұрын
The Jon & Vangelis version is far more joyful, and the studio voices contribute to the atmosphere. Nothing better than the original.
@zonsven
@zonsven 4 жыл бұрын
wowwwwww
@STR82DVD
@STR82DVD 4 жыл бұрын
Outrageous!!!!! Not a bloody word about Jon Anderson or Vangelis. Not a bad cover but credit where bloody credit is due. Shameful.
@bsquared4604
@bsquared4604 4 жыл бұрын
Hunter Bungay she may have talked about it, it just didn’t make this video.
@cdeekay3420
@cdeekay3420 4 жыл бұрын
Take a fucking Xanax!
@mikearchibald744
@mikearchibald744 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, they could at least have MENTIONED who wrote it and performed it. Most of the songs in this series have stressed the songwriters, so to not even mention who wrote a song that the singer goes on and on about how great it is, thats just bizarre. I didn't even know Donna Summer even covered this, I only know it from Jon's first album 'Animation'. As soon as they started talking about it I started to wonder if Jon had just done a cover, which seemed odd (apart from his christmas album). But anyway, it probably adds to his pension and its quite a thing to write a song that brings all these people together, but thats sort of what Jon Anderson tries to do. Thats Jon Anderson guys, the guy who WROTE the song, and to my mind did a better job with it too:)
@bgs03548
@bgs03548 3 жыл бұрын
Eric Clapton recorded JjCales Cocaine. It made it possible for J.J. to buy a new car and stuff. They become great friends too. If artists don’t copyright songs, what can ppl do?
@Dionysus4776
@Dionysus4776 4 жыл бұрын
Great story behind the song again, but please change the first sentence of the description for the video. It should be something along the lines of; "Donna Summer, who passed away in 2012, tells us the sto..." and even that doesn't feel totally right. Please have a translator check this over.
@harrynac6017
@harrynac6017 4 жыл бұрын
Skip the beginning, end the story with "in 2012 she past away"?
@Jeff_P-1988
@Jeff_P-1988 4 жыл бұрын
looks fine in Dutch, I'm pretty sure auto translation messed it up.
@tammierose5043
@tammierose5043 4 жыл бұрын
💫🌟💫
@Summerfan69
@Summerfan69 4 жыл бұрын
They should included some clips of the big starts singing the chorus in her State of independence music video!
@Marlon-sw4nw
@Marlon-sw4nw 4 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about?.. from 2:52
@Marlon-sw4nw
@Marlon-sw4nw 4 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about..? from 2:52
@rokapali69
@rokapali69 Жыл бұрын
This song is written by Jon Anderson (YES) and Vangelis and they never mentioned in this video, Why??
@PlasticDemons
@PlasticDemons 4 жыл бұрын
It may have been written by Jon & Vangelis but it was only ever an album track for them until they finally released it in 1984, these interviews are about the songs and why the artists recorded them not about who wrote them. It's not like she tried to pass it off as her own creation and states very early on that she wishes she had written it, which gives you some indication of what she must've thought of the original, and why she went ahead and recorded it because it wasn't for the money, cover versions don't pay very well because all the royalties go to the writers and publishers. If you want another great version try listening to Moodswings - Spiritual High (State Of Independence) Part II with Chrissie Hynde on vocals.
@jamielim5059
@jamielim5059 4 жыл бұрын
There’s only one Donna Summer 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Irene Cara looks and sounds like a younger version of her 🙏🏻
@daniellastuart3145
@daniellastuart3145 3 жыл бұрын
The Jon & Vangelis version is far more joyful, and more
@geob3963
@geob3963 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad we have both.
@russnoe4603
@russnoe4603 2 жыл бұрын
No it isn't. Baloney.
@ArnoldVeeman
@ArnoldVeeman 4 жыл бұрын
Nice song... Great message... By Vangelis 🙃🤦🏾‍♂️ Next time be more accurate!
@graziacavasino8884
@graziacavasino8884 4 жыл бұрын
Lyrics by Jon Anderson
@LPJISKOOL
@LPJISKOOL 3 жыл бұрын
She should have been part of We Are The World!
@keef71
@keef71 4 жыл бұрын
i prefer this to the original, but why NO mention of jon & vangelis?
@raymondhartmeijer9300
@raymondhartmeijer9300 2 жыл бұрын
I'm positive there is more interview from this show somewhere where she mentioned what a great lyric Jon had wrote, and how she saw the spiritual nature of it. I think they cut some bits out for KZbin
@etierik
@etierik 2 жыл бұрын
@@raymondhartmeijer9300 I don't think so. Top2000 a gogo always has these 5 minutes shorts. They probably had more material, but they didn't broadcast more on tv.
@raymondhartmeijer9300
@raymondhartmeijer9300 2 жыл бұрын
@@etierik mmh then I probably saw her talking about the song on a different show
@bsquared4604
@bsquared4604 3 жыл бұрын
recorded love to love you baby and gloss over the biggest hits of my career and was signed to geffen.
@tiffanystewardbenn7922
@tiffanystewardbenn7922 4 жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me when this video was made? I thought she past on b4 Oboma because president
@Top2000agogo
@Top2000agogo 4 жыл бұрын
This interview is from 2008, actually on the day that Obama became president. She passed away in 2012.
@sillygoose9070
@sillygoose9070 6 күн бұрын
So you avoid telling the 'story behind the song'... It was written by Jon Anderson and Vangelis.
@JustLocal
@JustLocal 4 жыл бұрын
I heard she wanted to be a rock singer!
@JimmieJamOfTheDay
@JimmieJamOfTheDay 4 жыл бұрын
She was a Rock singer. She was in a Rock band before she became famous. She was also known for having said something along the lines of, "I'm a singer who sings. Categorize the song but don't categorize me!"
@Summerfan69
@Summerfan69 4 жыл бұрын
She got some rock songs in her 80’s album look for ‘Protection’ by Bruce Springsteen in 1982 same album from State of Independence, also Highway Runner & Cold Love from the album The Wanderer.
@gerryowen4200
@gerryowen4200 3 жыл бұрын
Her backup singers omg
@TeddyBear-ii4yc
@TeddyBear-ii4yc 6 ай бұрын
I don't know what she'd took or if her memory issues are due to her age but she was making it up as she went along. Did they play SOI at Obamas inauguration with DS leading a host of black music royalty? It's all so confusing?
@68404
@68404 2 жыл бұрын
And MIchael Jackson stole the riff for Billy Jean.
@FundamentalsUK
@FundamentalsUK 4 жыл бұрын
Only watched for mention of Jon n Vangelis , she did a good cover but the writers n original should get a mention!
@MERVILLE3
@MERVILLE3 Жыл бұрын
And the mystery remains, how did they avoid Wonder ruining with one of his harmonica solos?
@enricovankeeken9503
@enricovankeeken9503 4 жыл бұрын
! #thetimeisnow X
@ingra888
@ingra888 2 ай бұрын
Donna Summer did a great rendition of the song by Jon & Vangelis.... But SHAMEFUL where credit was not given to the original artists! What are the people who made this documentry trying to hide!
@boaconstrictor3754
@boaconstrictor3754 4 жыл бұрын
Reka bi Mišo Kovač: Poljubi zemlju!
@Creature_NL
@Creature_NL 2 жыл бұрын
Now it's the state of big farma. Glad she don't have to experience this
@bsquared4604
@bsquared4604 4 жыл бұрын
So the most phenomenal years of her career were bubble gum?
@cdeekay3420
@cdeekay3420 4 жыл бұрын
B squared I caught that too!
@NOWtheband
@NOWtheband 4 жыл бұрын
To her, yeah.
@russnoe4603
@russnoe4603 3 жыл бұрын
I believe she was referring tomany of the songs before Last Dance, when she was really allowed to belt her songs out. Even Giorgio wanted her to cut MacArthur Park, so people could really hear what a great vocalist she was.
@dunatyphon5416
@dunatyphon5416 4 жыл бұрын
No mention of Jon & Vangelis.... But, she got Obama in....And that's what matters... Right? .... RIGHT???
@user-wc3lg9ou7i
@user-wc3lg9ou7i 9 ай бұрын
👃🥰
@darkkiss7247
@darkkiss7247 4 жыл бұрын
Jon Anderson and Vangelis and Moodswing with Chrissy Hynde also covered this song. Definitely recommend the latter.
@TheMusicWiz
@TheMusicWiz 4 жыл бұрын
Jon Anderson and Vangelis wrote it....Donna is a cover
@vinsgraphics
@vinsgraphics 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMusicWiz The brilliance is that Jon and Angelo’s could write and record a song in only a matter of minutes. Vangelis on his own improvises the vast majority of his music.
@imcavdb5465
@imcavdb5465 4 жыл бұрын
Ze kommen niet, ze komme daar.... 😁
@geeboom
@geeboom 2 жыл бұрын
Too little credit is given here to the Master Vangelis and his muse Jon Anderson whose song this really is.
@PREEM513
@PREEM513 Жыл бұрын
How do you not mention your song is a cover? How you forget Stevie wonder, Michael McDonald, Kenny loggins and Brenda Russell was there? That’s crazy.
@russnoe4603
@russnoe4603 11 ай бұрын
That was decades ago from when this interview was recorded. Plus, she wasn't actually at that session. She was very pregnant at the time.
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