Elliotte Friedman on Canucks/Sabres rumours, J.T. Miller and more

[@TravelSpottermc]

Fav Canucks Show 🎉 watching from Arizona

[@MajorCanada]

Hope you got a home there from Lack!

[@fergusdoyle2342]

Drinking game: take a shot every time Elliotte says "look"

[@waltermitty2591]

Lol, you hit a nerve. I flinch every time I hear someone start a comment with look or listen. 😅

[@fergusdoyle2342]

@@waltermitty2591 Haha it's really triggering me now when he does it. He does it so often and it's always at the start of a sentence!

[@rodzor]

Looks like he was playing his own drinking game looking pretty rough there lol

[@bradenward4231]

Look, Elliott has his own style… or lack thereof.

[@Browser155]

I like this game. Another fun one: every time Hansen says “if you will” ….I will…take a drink lol 😂

[@gordonmacdowell8117]

Pettersson for Cozins and Byram would probably be a great trade for both teams.

[@akhillyz4223]

no it wouldnt lmao

[@steviecurry9331]

Cozens career high is 68 pts lmao Petey can play shitty all year and will still put up 80 points

[@Toro_Da_Corsa]

It is a total disaster for Vancouver.

[@brentnyeste2949]

Trade that bum Swede the Canucks need more Canadians on their roster, they are too soft and Swedish

[@scottelement]

You get that good good in Main/Hastings before posting this? LOL

[@bellamydrake9343]

Cousins and Byram for Pettersson? Yes please!

[@brentnyeste2949]

Make it happen right now

[@grantkruse1812]

Even if we have to add Hogs to sweeten the deal.

[@JeremyCuddles]

@@grantkruse1812 We shouldn't have to. But we'll sweeten the deal with Desharnais.

[@Patrick-k8o6s]

@@grantkruse1812at least Hoglander is making an effort every night. He’s just not getting the results. I think he is worth getting a shot now that Miller is back and he plays on that line. P40 is another story. The Canucks should do the deal if only to get rid of his cap hit.

[@raesmart3305]

That might we close

[@glennelliott708]

JT off the team, Petey thrives with Boeser. JT returns with Boeser as line mate and Petey goes into hibernation. Is it a locker room thing? Is Boeser the player that stirs the drink? Something is wrong in Canuckville.

[@automatichange9453]

Maybe the guy making 11.8 should stir his own pot

[@Chumdubgess]

Hardly thriving lmfao, still a shadow of his former self. Be real like holy shit 😂

[@TerryMcLean-tg1jq]

U win the dumb comment

[@brentnyeste2949]

@@automatichange9453couldn’t agree more

[@geebster.]

@@glennelliott708 nope, look at the ice time. JT got all of his ice time with Hughes out there after coming back and did so before too. Peteys icetime with Hughes is very low when JT is there. Its been a thing Tocchet has done a long time. Hughes and Miller are out there vs the other teams top line so they play a ton together. Its Quinn that stirs the drink and you can see that the more Hughes time JT or Petey get the better they do (its like 65% vs 40% of share expected offense with or without Hughes... its crazy). Both Miller and Petey are more likely to get scored on than produce if they are out there without Hughes. Hughes is the same regardless of linemates (goes down 2% with Miller, is at his average with Petey).

[@geebster.]

For over a month now Peteys gone at 1.4 points per game.. 6th most productive player in the league. Also you cant just look at cap hit to rank a player by salary. You look at what percent of the cap their contract takes up when they signed. Otherwise you are comparing old contracts from a lower cap to a higher one (omg there are 4th liners making more than Gretzky omgggg). Petey, when he signed his deal, was 21st highest paid by cap%. Thats an underpay probably because hes closer to a top 15 guy than 21st.

[@goenzoy712]

Pretty sure all what is said about him very unfair .Also that he can't lead is nonsense You can lead by different means Being a spark is one of it and EP still capable of doing it

[@bakikountwa2192]

Sadly. A lot of canucks fans who spew hate on Petey because of his contract don’t realize that.

[@Chumdubgess]

Delusional af 😂😂😂

[@cheguevara8410]

You’re being way too sophisticated for this crowd. People here have a hard enough time comparing nominal value, forget about percentages of cap when signed. They think cap inflation is something wrong with their cars.

[@geebster.]

@@goenzoy712 he had a really bad 2nd half and playoffs for sure last year. But when we went 3 rounds (play in then to round 2), Petey was amazing. Some crazy plays against Vegas too. Hughes also had a bad playoff last year but his first one he did great. Sure we can't discount Peteys bad 2nd half last year or bad first few weeks this year.. but if those count then what about the first half last year when he was leading the league in points, or the last month and a bit. I think a lot of it is because when he has a bad shift he makes faces, people don't empathise with that as much as they do Miller breaking sticks and yelling etc. Overall he's paid a fair amount and is consistently dominant in his own end, his offense has gone on and off and we need more consistency but he's going to be underpaid real soon as the cap goes up even without that.

[@cheguevara8410]

Pettersson deserves better, if the city keeps hating on him, then move him. For a hypothetical trade with Buffalo, maybe Benson, Byram, plus additional picks? It’d be pretty fun seeing Petey play with his friend Dahlin. And maybe in a market like Buffalo he won’t become scapegoat for everything.

[@TerryMcLean-tg1jq]

He sucks

[@scottelement]

@@TerryMcLean-tg1jqyeah you do Terry…

[@scottelement]

@@TerryMcLean-tg1jqcould be worse. He could be Terry

[@timodonnell8943]

WELL THE PLAYER YOUR WANTING ARE NO BETTER THEN THE BOTTOM 6 WE HAVE ALREADY

[@TerryMcLean-tg1jq]

@scottelement terry fox

[@Babaganoosh69]

People seriously thinking Petey for Byram & Cozens is anywhere close to fair trade for the Canucks are drunk, Elliotte included.

[@LeoBond]

Actions speak louder than words. Anyone can see by watching those guys play that they're not willing to pay the price to win. Especially Pettersson!

[@TerryMcLean-tg1jq]

Miller is wtf

[@brentnyeste2949]

@@TerryMcLean-tg1jqbest forward on the team and their vocal leader, he’s got more grit in his pinky than pettersson has in his whole body

[@TerryMcLean-tg1jq]

@brentnyeste2949 exactly it's why Miller cant stand him

[@CashMacGregor]

there's be dancing in the street if they move petie. he is in a louis eriksson mode and he will never bleed for this team again.

[@Chumdubgess]

Yup time to send him into the sun, infuriating to watch. Can get a few great players with that 11 mill in space.

[@scottelement]

You’re delusional

[@OhCanada-wk3kl]

To me "burning to win" shows up in a player's consistent compete- particularly in the BIg Games when it counts. Yes, I accept that not all leaders are loud and in-your-face. Hughes is a Canuck leader through his play and his dedication to always trying to raise the level of his game- not simply being content with showing up. You can't simply put it on the players to do what is necessary to hold each other accountable for their individual and team play and then get mad at Miller when he tries to do just that!?

[@derekstanyer]

Well if he is doing it in a way that is brining negative energy and not in a constructive way, then you can ask him to adjust the way he is doing that. Not saying that is the case, but there is obviously different ways to motivate and hold people accountable, some constructive and some destructive

[@pneudmatic]

Watching from Hong Kong. Donnie's right. It's definitely Tuesday.

[@Jay-bf8yp]

I remember going to the Keg in LKF to watch Canucks games the owner had couriered (VHS lol) the day before. This of course was back in the day lol.

[@stewarts8597]

Petey for Cousins and Byram... make that trade

[@glenrichardson8266]

You mean Cozens presumably, and no.

[@scottelement]

Hey Friedman, wanna read some EA NHL 25 trade proposals on “32 Thoughts” while you’re at it? Guy purposely stoked the fire & I wish our media would call him out for that garbage

[@rodzor]

@@scottelement Exactly. Pure fantasy and speculation.

[@scott-ryanabt6039]

Didn't go well for Mats Sundin in Vancouver? He collected 5 schmill and led the team in scoring in the playoffs that year.

[@ThisWholeWorld100]

No, he did not lead teh team in scoring that playoffs. Why just make stuff up?

[@scott-ryanabt6039]

@@ThisWholeWorld100 You are right, Henrik and Daniel did. My memory deceived me. 8 points in 8 games though.

[@zjsz4954]

He played half a year and bounced he was a bigger disaster than messier. On ice anyhow

[@scott-ryanabt6039]

@@zjsz4954 And Gillis originally wanted to sign him for 2 years at $10 per

[@Herrlorddonkoenigczar]

I take that back

[@DavidAllison-qs8wn]

Yet here you are for an interview in which Friedman is the only guest. You chose to be here just to slag him? He is pretty plugged-in with a lot of teams and often has insight not available elsewhere. That's why he has an audience throughout the league.

[@Herrlorddonkoenigczar]

@ Nope, I came for Donnie & Dhali, I’ve never slagged him before.

[@Herrlorddonkoenigczar]

@ I got many more important things in life to do

[@Herrlorddonkoenigczar]

Petey isn’t going anywhere

[@Roof_Pizza]

And yet you didn't name ONE thing he said let alone a half dozen.

[@epants8507]

Without Lekkerimaki the Nucks would be at the bottom of the division....Petey and Miller's personalities are total opposites but that doesn't mean they hate each other...Guys like Friedman like to gossip because that's their job I just don't buy into it....Whatever happens, this season win or lose I will always be a Nucks fan regardless..

[@TerryMcLean-tg1jq]

One wants to win the other doesn't care

[@brentnyeste2949]

@@TerryMcLean-tg1jq the only time Swedes are all in is when they play for their country Petey is playing for Petey

[@kevvymetal666]

you mean Lankinen?

[@scottelement]

I love when people try & make a point but can’t even get the right players right

[@TerryMcLean-tg1jq]

@brentnyeste2949 exactly pety doesn't give a shit and Miller sees it,to bench Miller and not pety is unbelievable

[@jordancarlin9687]

Does Elliot do hits on every Canadian hockey markets radio? he does 2 shows in vancouver alone. ntm Marek's pod and the national stuff

[@vernonhowell4070]

How could the Sabres possibly think that team looks better on paper? They went into this season praying that Peterka and Quinn would both score 30 plus this season and that was ridiculous.

[@37BopCity]

"Petterson for Cousins and Byram?" This is the first I've heard of this, but in my opinion it could be a good deal for both teams. Canucks need a major change, and so do Sabres. Petterson is not living up the huge expectations that he agreed to when he became one of the Top 10 Highest Paid players in the NHL, and I don't think he ever will with Canucks. Maybe he can turn it around with Sabres. Cousins and Byram could be just the spark Canucks need at this time.

[@OhCanada-wk3kl]

I would be so pleased with this trade! Petterson is not a top 3 player (as dictated by his salary) and is definitely not a franchise player (a term that has been very water-downed by player agents in the last several years). I would suggest Hughes deserves the 11.6 million per season- not Petterson! The question is whether the Canucks want to bank their future as a franchise around Petterson? Does he compete and lead the team consistently, particularly in the Big games when it counts? Will he be able to lead the Canucks to a Stanley Cup? I for one think NOT!

[@brentnyeste2949]

The Canucks are miles away from being cup contenders don’t let last season fool you. Everything went right for that team until the playoffs. The 2011 team would eat this version of the Canucks for dinner

[@scottelement]

This comment section really tells me the IQ of the average Donnie & Dhali listener. Woof! I doubt the majority of people have seen Cozens play a game that wasn’t in the World Juniors or a Buffalo game vs Van

[@rookieg]

Petey just isn't a Canuck. Just no passion to play for them

[@colinsellers1143]

agreed

[@TerryMcLean-tg1jq]

Miller cares

[@bakikountwa2192]

I can see Crosby demanding of himself and others but NOT in a way like Miller. Crosby has self-control, commands respects because he also GIVES IT. It just creates safe, competitive but fun environment.

[@Varonno]

What?

[@TerryMcLean-tg1jq]

Miller cares pety doesn't

[@m_m_m_beer8917]

Well said.

[@stephenkantor9500]

Here is what buffalo fans want. Nhl needs to step in to force sale of the team. Move the team and then grant buffalo an expansion with new owners and a new arena with a 30 year lease.

[@Jweldsandlifts]

We don’t want that.

[@jeffmill6683]

Brock I could see 7.25 x 7 but anymore would hurt this team.

[@blackhawks9763]

Martin Necas makes 6.5 million and is “tiers above” Pettersson. Now that’s completely embarrassing.

[@sdkeenan27]

Just because that attitude worked for Messier it doesn’t mean it is the only way, and that it will work in 2024. Is Crosby as demanding and aggressive in the room ? Is Barkov ?

[@ollesventon4607]

I think Elliotte has changed his persona. I think he is more speculating then before and I lost a little bit of respect of him

[@scottelement]

100%

[@geraldpetznek]

Make the trade if you can, everyone can move on. Lets hope they have scooter paths in Buffalo.

[@simongjose]

Return for a contract that aged very poorly in a matter of months At 11.6 off the books and 2 solid contributors who have something to prove like Couzens and Byram solves a lot of cap issues and sparks the team

[@tonykung8756]

The Sabres remind me of the Sens. There's so much young talent but for whatever reason they just can't put it together year after year...

[@ObscureReference9]

JT's comp is Mackinnon in personality.

[@blackhawks9763]

Only a complete fool would not do that trade. The Canucks improve as a team 10/10 after that trade. Pettersson is a bust, he is NOT a playoff performer. Guys like Miller, Hughes, etc…. All are better than him.

[@TerryMcLean-tg1jq]

Hes not a regular session player

[@leosteel9890]

You guys are class A idiots. Pettersson at 50% is way better than cousins. Makes this team miles worse if they make this trade

[@rjchannel316]

Cozen, Tage Thompson and Byram for EP40

[@Jweldsandlifts]

You just hit your crack pipe?

[@emmvee1678]

Um no

[@JeremyCuddles]

Huggy doesn't burn hot. But you can see it on his face on the ice that he's a gamer. Of the core 5 of Miller, Petey, Boeser, Demko and Hughes. I trade all 4 of the others before even entertaining the idea of moving Hughes.

[@David-we3py]

I don't trust demko long term with his injuries. I'd trade him for a top 4 defenseman if it was ever available.

[@whatsinthebox9732]

Petey is a Gen Z emotional mess who doesn’t like hard work and who the league has figured out. Maybe Petey and his attitude are the issue in the room and not Miller like all the Peteystans think.

[@scottelement]

It’s 4pm… don’t you have a seniors dinner special to be at?

[@David-we3py]

Any athlete at a professional level has tried harder than anything you've ever achieved in your life. Get over yourself old head

[@whatsinthebox9732]

@@scottelement i'm old because i referenced a generation? So low IQ does always out themselves, not surprised.

[@whatsinthebox9732]

@@David-we3py significantly disagree given my military service but sure, bring up something completely irrelevant to avoid the fact you have no point to make you're just big mad lol

[@whatsinthebox9732]

@@scottelement so i'm old because i mentioned a generation? Ok Short Bus lol.

[@ZBebic]

Sundin may have burned to win, but Messier’s the one with the cups.

[@LegendaryGoetz]

Elliot I think I got the same jacket as you. GAP? If so lets go

[@hookstreet.]

Management need to separate themselves from the players who they would like to have from the players who we should have...period.

[@raymondleemanpaper]

Trade Petey. The Canucks win this trade again.

[@MrCryptler69]

Petey played so much better when Miller was gone. And when Miller came back, he sucked. Miller is Petey's trigger! Petey needs psychological therapy to not let Miller get into his head.

Unfortunately, it is Miller who is a severe head case. The guy's right wisted.

[@scottelement]

People need psychological help if they think they understand the dynamics of the dress room through the tv screen & hearsay

[@DanJ-pf7lz]

Do we remember a guy name Mat Sundin? I mean Owen N had a good career and I am not saying EP will turn into Mat Sundin caliber but he has already won Calder. Having said that, EP is not in sync with the team's direction of plays, EP fits better with Brock then Garland, and as long as JT M is on the first line with Brock, doubt EP will can return to the form. Remember Hocket is a team sports and he needs players that he can create chemistry with, JT M is not one of them.

[@Jimsathome]

Thanks Gents, but I'm always shocked that the local Vancouver Media has to talk to eastern media to get "inside" information on the Canucks? Is it an NHL edit that local clubs not talk to local media anymore? I resent the current flow on information. Maybe there's something I don't understand.

[@Pfgerbilss]

I would assume it’s because the eastern guys are connected more to the markets outside of Vancouver than the local guys.

[@jeffmill6683]

I have a hard time believing a lot of what Friedman says about the west.

[@smarty432]

With Petterson, Canucks is a contender. With Cozens and Byram, we are pretenders. Fools Canuxks is making this trade. The end!

[@Pfgerbilss]

That’s assuming Petterson isn’t the guy he has been for the last 10 months. Not saying I’m taking that deal but we need him to be the player he was at this time last year to be a contender.

[@Ash-uh2ot]

100% we gta keep petey

[@Chumdubgess]

If he actually starts playing have you watched him for the last half a year? 😂

[@TerryMcLean-tg1jq]

Pety is a,soft baby

[@TerryMcLean-tg1jq]

​@@Ash-uh2otwhy 😂😂😂

[@Chumdubgess]

Peterson gives the least shits I’ve seen from a Canuck in long time. It’s clear he doesn’t gaf, like it’s almost a whole year now but please let’s hear more excuses

[@TerryMcLean-tg1jq]

Yep

[@davideaston6944]

[@TerryMcLean-tg1jq]

Pety the soft baby doesn't care miller does ,get lost pety

[@superp0tato]

just checked .... it monday.

[@stephenkantor9500]

Buffalo fans sell your tickets to leaf fans just like i did. I thought I'd never sell my seats for one game but I did. Stick it to sabres management and make it embarrassing for Terry as he counts the leafs money

JT Miller is a severe head case.

[@mrrcool77]

Petey for Barzal

[@stizz19]

not a chance in hell, Barzal took a header off a cliff after his rookie season.

[@TerryMcLean-tg1jq]

For a bag of pucks

[@jonasmichaelmoir9378]

It's called Stoicism...Scandinavian DNA...Viking tech... Don't show your emotions in public...just in the fight...

[@DewayneMill]

Cozens for pety any day of the week .. petey needs to go play women’s volleyball.. the guy has no passion OR energy for the game

[@timodonnell8943]

he would walk you like fat kid on a smartie lol

[@stizz19]

A .5 PPG player for a 1PPG players, are you high on crack?

[@scottelement]

Thank god you’re not out GM lol

[@jasonmoser8957]

Amazes me that Friedman gets away with spreading made up stuff

[@kpie84]

“And Sundin burned to win.” Much like the burning, during urination, after a post-game night out at the Roxy..

[@mrrcool77]

What about Miller for Cozens & Byram?

[@RoamHockey]

no chance, Miller is 31..why would the Sabres trade two 23 year olds for a guy past his prime?? it would have to be Pettersson

[@Jweldsandlifts]

@@RoamHockeyyou tell em roamer

[@Goran-gq8gi]

Friedman is such a joke.

[@jayb4779]

Said no one ever

[@WoodLakeWestHarrison]

Trade EP40 to Chicago for Bedard

[@royjonzejr]

Oh wow Don Taylor I haven't seen that guy in like 15 years when he used to do highlight packages for Sportsnet

[@rodzor]

"Was it his left Khabi!? Or his right Bhulin?!"

[@pwnerpinistic]

Skating gingerly!

[@bobpowers9637]

I am also concerned about pettersons defensive play. He used to be on the PK and generating turnovers 5 on 5. Rather than 2-3 steps ahead of the play he’s 1-2 steps behind. Confidence…

[@Zarfybear]

We are known for riots pretty soon. We're gonna be known as the fans that wouldn't let Elliotte Friedman leave Vancouver with some hockey injuries. 😂

[@bfielding91]

Petey for Dahlin

[@leosteel9890]

Big mistake if they trade pettersson

[@Patrick-k8o6s]

How do I think the rest of the team feels when they work their asses off while getting paid half or less of what Pettersen makes. Watching P40 just loafing through his shift game after game. He has made no progress. He hasn’t gained in strength or muscle mass. He is a mediocre skater who hasn’t made the effort to get better at skating. He is blasé in his interviews and makes the same excuses. He needs to man up and do what he’s paid to. If there is a reasonable trade opportunity then I say the Canucks should entertain it.

[@scottelement]

Straw men argument. How did Petey feel when he was putting up points and our 4th line made $14M ?

[@Patrick-k8o6s]

@ 14 million for 3 players. You really want to compare a guy that’s supposed to be an elite player with fourth liners? Compare P40 with guys making the same money as him. Someone like Auston Mathews or Jake Guenzel. Right now an ex Canuck player is out playing P40. Adam Gaudette is outplaying him in Ottawa. Gaudette probably makes league minimum.

[@scottelement]

@@Patrick-k8o6syou asked how do players feel when one of the top point per game producing players in franchise history is making 11.6 so I compared it to when AHL level talent was being overpaid & were part of the reason we couldn’t lock the guy up at $7 in the first place. I’d rather overpay one of the best young players in franchise history by 2-3 million than overpay an entire line by $10M plus.

[@Herrlorddonkoenigczar]

If they trade Petey they loose the fanbase. I’d stop watching the Canucks and hockey in general

[@TerryMcLean-tg1jq]

Only u 😂😂😂

[@Herrlorddonkoenigczar]

@ Half the fanbase would be done. A ton of kids would be distraught. It would tear this franchise apart. It is NOT happening. Francesco Aquilini would step in and have none of it as Pettersson sells a lot of tickets. Mark my words, Petey isn’t going anywhere. Take your pipe, and shove it

[@brentnyeste2949]

@@Herrlorddonkoenigczar the Canucks have only 1 sellout so far this season so I think the fans have already tuned them out, tired of watching the shit show at home and pay high prices to do so

[@Herrlorddonkoenigczar]

@ You are right. Perhaps because prices are too high. Without Demko, Miller, Boeser and Hronek are apart of it too

[@Herrlorddonkoenigczar]

Would you pay to see a half-ass team? Nah, neither would I. But now that things are getting together the arena will fill up

[@akhillyz4223]

such a dumb trade to put out there, laughable trade

[@brentnyeste2949]

It’s hardly laughable and would improve the Canucks greatly they need to shed the Euros and get more Canadian players on their roster. You just can’t win with soft Swedes

[@scottelement]

@@brentnyeste2949what’s laughable is opinions like yours. Have you watched Dylan Cozens play a game (not against Van or for the WJC) in the last few years? He’s a 68 pt player at his BEST

[@timodonnell8943]

trade BOESER hes not worth 8 mil hes a floater too FLOATER FLOW getting sic of watching him do fly by hits

[@barrylamming]

byram for justin holl :)

[@Angrynucksfan]

Its time to ship the trash out before the no trade kicks in.