AE86 vs GR86: Which one is worth it?

[@Hashiriya086]

As an 86 owner. I’m really glad you guys gave minimal attention to initial d and gave a bit more attention to some other things the AE86 was famous for, more people should know about N2 and things like hotversion

[@CancelledMcCree]

Hot Version is where it’s at!

[@TheCpaschal86]

I couldn't agree more. The AE86 is by far one of the most fun cars i have ever driven I have driven a lot of cars.

[@trolleyracingmaster7075]

Yeah people always think initial D is the only reason it’s famous. It was a cheap sporty car for the public at the time and had a successful run in track races and rally

[@komamix]

Truth

[@Hashiriya086]

@@trolleyracingmaster7075 also the other races that it was in, N2 is one of the most exiting races that I can think of, just a ton of 86s with screaming 4AGs going around Tskuba or Nikko, amazing

[@schoolForAnts]

Michael Schumacher and Ken Block both deserve Up To Speed episodes.

[@TheStrangeVisitor]

At this point any up to speed episode will do. Also did somebody check on the guy who counts the day? Is he alright?

[@kaiburns4257]

@@TheStrangeVisitor he gave up... ;-;

[@witness1013]

No they don't

[@stephaneletourneau7712]

totally right on that man, but dont forget Sabine Schmitz!

[@philipjamesrojo4913]

Those 2 deserves a lot of info on Up to Speed. Let's not forget the Up to Speed on the Dakar Rally.

[@a.p.7660]

Thanks Donut Media for featuring my AE86. Hope everyone enjoyed it as I did. 🤙🏽

[@rjkStudios]

I've never been an AE86 guy, but that's a beauty you have there! 😎 👍 There's just this special "x-factor" with the 80's-90's Toyota sports cars. 💜

[@tjjavier]

Awesome car man! Props! 🙌💯

[@Zeemas]

Sweet car dude! Especially the interiors, looks so mint my guy.

[@triquerique]

cleaaaaan build man love your car!

[@a.p.7660]

Thank you!

[@igoramaral95]

It's well said about lower-end sports cars. You can push it to the limits as the limits are pretty low, and it's what makes them so fun.

[@wotwott2319]

As the old addage says, it's much more fun to drive slow cars fast, than it is to drive fast cars slow.

[@demarcuscousinsthe65th]

Yeah, a lot of compact sports cars nowadays have tiny turbocharged engines, 2L i4 to 3L v6, but they manage to squeeze out so much hrsprs out of them

[@2strokeFORever]

I enjoy driving my RSX more than driving my mom's ZL1 Camaro. Don't get me wrong the ZL1 is a blast but I just prefer vehicles that I have to beat the crap out of lol

[@dasutin]

I had a 77 Celica GT and I've never had more fun in a car. I could drive it basically as hard as I wanted and never even really be in danger of getting in trouble.

[@jacobvanhalteren7452]

I don't know if your really pushing the limits with the newer one, sure you can hold it wide open 2x as long as any other car but the rest of the car could handle more power than it has.

[@booga25]

I just want to thank donut! Today I got accepted for an apprenticeship with Toyota and I don’t think I would be as into cars as I am without donut. I have been watching for a few years now and im finally old enough to get out there and get the experience from professionals. P.S. what a coincidence that the day I get accepted into Toyota, donut(my favourite KZbin channel) make a video about Toyotas lol.

[@ninjamigs1766]

Good luck brother.😊 Nothing better than re/building a Toyota and hearing her vroom!!!! CEL flashing ofcourse. It is the way!

[@radelement3987]

Just stay away from snap on while you're starting save yourself from the debt

[@BlazeRodPepsi]

@@radelement3987 biggest mistake I ever made, spent 13k in aud on Snap-on. Tools me two years to pay that off

[@wassupdummy]

@@radelement3987 said no one ever.. now come to my tool truck, we have a sale 😏

[@agodfred]

Congrats and taking the next step. Awesome that Donut played such a role in your journey. Keep us posted!

[@Riku-Leela]

I love how you both bounce off eachother when presenting rather than having individual lines to say which dont interact, it really makes the presenting feel very natual

[@Torresgamingchannel]

Felt like an old school top gear segment, so cool that people are keeping the dream alive.

[@TheRockStar04261999]

legit just commented this, scrolled down and saw your comment. great minds think alike

[@CFreedom]

Did the same thing, commented, found you guys haha.

[@mxmastermitch]

Agree!

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@CFreedom the AE86 shows the true case of being the unbounded.

[@fausch]

Donuts definitely kept the dream alive and built on it in their own way. Gotta be the best car content producers out there now.

[@SodaSenpai1337]

As a 23 GR86 M/T owner I can agree with how beautiful the driving experience is of this car. It’s not the fastest, but the amount of communication you get through your hands, and the seat is magical. I drove a BMW 330i for a couple weeks while my GR was in the shop and missed it every day. Yes, the BMW was faster, and more comfortable, but for me driving fun is about connectedness with the car you’re driving and the GR86 delivers it in spades. If you’re thinking about it, buy it, because who knows how long gas only, rear wheel drive sports cars are going to be around for.

[@newzealanddeeksealant4369]

But is it worth spending a bit more for more speed, like the new mustang?

[@stephenoakley9724]

That sounds exactly how I feel about my S2000.

[@OIIO_BEAMNG]

​@newzealanddeeksealant4369 you won't have the same connection to the road in a Mustang. It's a good car, but it's not like a GR86

[@baelm]

have fun with that rtv in your oil pick up

[@swiftrevenge1878]

Rtv make engine go boom boom

[@boldcitycc]

The 4A-GE engine was also put in the MR2. The AW11 series MR2 was so fun to drive. I loved the t-tops as well. Man I miss that car. The shifter was the coolest I’ve ever seen. It was a little slightly banana shaped shifter.. Super short throws, buttery smooth, and the way they set the center console was perfect. You could literally rest your forearm on the center tunnel, and shift with just your wrist.

[@psychedashell]

My little AE86 had the supercharger from the 4agZE, surprisingly beastly bit of kit.

[@Malice_doll]

I love my mr2. My manual trans one doesn’t run anymore but I daily my automatic and it’s an amazing car. Everything the 86 does it does better. No body roll and gives you more of that “sport” feeling, weighs less too in Japan than the 86. If Takumi went against a first gen mr2 with an equal skills driver either NA or supercharged he would get demolished. Also that snap oversteer everyone brings up with mr2’s really only affects the 2nd gen.

[@raptrz_]

As a GR86 owner, I can say first hand that I absolutely love the car. It's very fun to drive, and it's surprisingly pretty quick with this new engine considering the weight of the car. The area I'm in doesn't have many twisty type roads, but I can tell it takes corners flawlessly. The suspension is very stiff since it is basically a track focused car, so you can feel every little bump, lol. Drifting the car feels very good as well. It's very predictable to control during a drift. The 86 has more of a tail happy suspension setup (which I love) compared to the brz, which is more center grounded. The cons with the car for me is the fake sound that gets pumped into the car, which I had to unplug after a week owning because it was loud and annoying (you pop open the side panel on the passenger side and unplug it there) The other con I have is more of a concern. Subaru uses excessive silicon sealant on their oil pans instead of a gasket, and people are having problems with that sealant getting into the oil pan, and then clogging the pickup tube. (From what I know, about 3 cases of engines have blown because of it) Other than that, If you're considering this car, I highly recommend it. I could never be happier with the car. This is my first manual sports car, and I was lucky enough to be on a waiting list for 6 months and got one of the first 2023's off the port. Also, if you're willing to learn manual, this is a great car to start with.

[@razvan3062]

It's a great car, shame that the dealers are absurdly asking over MSRP.

[@raptrz_]

@Razvan30 ngl I even paid over MSRP. I got mine for 40k, which honestly isn't too bad from seeing other dealers' prices. I've seen some going for 50k+

[@jamespark6132]

Wish they put a inline 4 engine in the gr86. All my mechanic friends from Toyota hate working this car and the supra😂 but it is a very nice looking car❤

[@XxXTunafish]

great perspective. I think I'm definitely going to get one of these as my next car when I can afford it. Prettymuch the only car offering this kind of driving experience on the market. At least at a somewhat reasonable price.

[@FAINTEN17]

there's more cons to this car for sure. specially with how weak the engine and drivetrain is. and don't get me started with the price tag. car shouldn't be past 29k even for the "special edtion" models.

[@ahnospell44]

Nolan falling out of the GE86 is 1000% the most relatable thing on this show! 🤣

[@iansaunders8539]

The GR86 is hard to get in and out of. Im under 6ft and constantly hit my hat or head getting in. Also, the extended flared out side panels under the door are very prone to get scuffed up and stepped on by people on their way out the car.

[@chrisnevergrowold330]

He ran out the clutch and stalled it too, THEN he fell out of the car. Gotta have balls to not reshoot that on a car channel lol

[@blakewooley6626]

GR

[@30hours51]

@@iansaunders8539 im 6ft and have no trouble getting in, my 5ft 6 gf however have trouble getting in, very strange

[@techyin326]

Haha soo true, already happened to me on my 2013 BRZ

[@jaybee6280]

I've actually been watching initial d for the first time and the history and passion that people used to have for cars is admirable. This car is great and I love the impact it had

[@G_Ozare]

The AE86 SR5 was my first car when I turned 17 (2004) working at Blockbuster. Paid $700. Always wanted one growing up watching Option & Drift Tengoku VHS tapes. Ended up with 5-6 more AE86’s after that one. My last one I sold in 2011. This car has my ❤

[@chrishuyler3580]

That's the best way to experience these cars. They are not $30k driving experiences, but you certainly got your money's worth at a $700 entry fee. Comparing to other vehicles of the era you can pick up, the AE86 is a $10k experience with a $20k comic book tax.

[@WoodLox]

In 1993 it was love at first slide. My boys had a 210 and a coupe they would slide in the rain late night in our complex. Bought in 2005 $1,100 running and drove from Weston to Homestead, still have that black hatch 86 out back my GZE AW11 and a coupe GTS.

[@jooot_6850]

$700? Lucky bastard..

[@shuruff904]

5-6?

[@turkerozgiray6308]

What is ur current

[@tylerkruger681]

The content lately is A+, thanks fellas

[@tmcoady]

Absolutely love these videos. Donuts shifted back to real life videos like this and the skyline video, which I love to see. Keep up these kind of videos!

[@Movic__]

HEY FAN, I HAVE GIFT 🎁 FOR YOU, SEND A DIRECT MESSAGE!!!

[@ManBearPigCreative]

Really have to respect how they listened to the comments

[@Romeren]

The most casual way Nolan stumbled out of the GR86 had me folded up in laughter

[@zJoriz]

After stalling the engine, too! That was a meme moment as far as I'm concerned XD The editor of the channel can use that fragment to the end of time to make a point -- even if said point has nothing to do with Nolan

[@ChrisDoll]

not ashamed to admit i've fallen out of my frs(when i had it) a few times exactly like that lol

[@jongeddes09]

I'm not surprised that the steering wheel in the new car feels steery but the fact that the shifter doesn't feel shifty really shocked me.

[@santinodelgado281]

Sad that the pedals don't feel pedally

[@angelmonroy9644]

Knobs don’t feel knoby

[@albertong944]

wipers don't feel wippery

[@galin2924]

9:55 ain't that a Lambo in the background, what a time to shoot a video on the 86

[@peterparker3668]

If you were able to really rip through the canyon in the GR86 I’m sure you’d see why these the such good enthusiast cars. I take my GT86 through local canyons and it’s so much fun through the corners. I can only imagine what the AE86 feels like!

[@eriklarson9137]

From someone who was alive when the AE86s were released, they are dumb, slow cars. People mod the crap out of them to make them cool, but stock they are a joke. They barely make 100hp. The end. It is weird watching people willingly be brainwashed about a car.

[@NekoWinters]

My hakone has quickly become my forever car because of taking it through the mountains here and going to the track in the Ozarks

[@peterparker3668]

@@NekoWinters awesome! I track it at UMC apart from driving the canyon!

[@mynamjeffeg6]

I've got a friend who lives in Japan, and daily's a BRZ. He said the AE86 feels almost identical to his BRZ, but without power steering so props to Toyota for making it feel similar

[@Nior_]

I don't think a stock ae86 has enough power or torque to be able to drift, at least not decently or continuously.

[@MosquitoXR13]

I'm a year and 30k miles into GR86 ownership and am completely in love with the car!

[@TheSaturdayNights]

Bro. You drive 30k miles a year?

[@MosquitoXR13]

@@TheSaturdayNights it's my DD, I live an hour from the local autox/TNiA road course, I go to every cars and coffee, car show, cruise night I can find and I also go on pleasure drives with my friends pretty often too. Been through almost 4 sets of tires in those miles too, just getting to the end of my second set of snows.

[@KrispyKruiser]

Lol I'm about to hit 40k

[@razor_darkhorse]

​@@MosquitoXR13 makes sense why your car has 30K miles. And daymm. You did some drifting in a snow as well. Sheesh.

[@iansaunders8539]

5 months. 4k miles in my 23 GR86. It's been a blast. 2nd fav car ever owned (S2K AP2 1st). Even more fun than my old car (2016 BRZ).

[@davidyarbrough2197]

Love the ae86 platform. They have skyrocketed in price so I just now settled for a 2014 BRZ with 29,000 miles. Love it after owning it a month. So much fun.

[@T3chpat]

Please make a High/Low series on something like these cars together. Old/cheap car gets the expensive bits and the expensive/new car gets the cheap parts!

[@tomasfiala1424]

That would be amazing

[@ClintTrawick]

As an AE86 owner, I can tell you that there's NOTHING cheap for these cars. Good idea, but not with the 86.

[@T3chpat]

@@ClintTrawick Yes, I kind of got that from the episode, but perhaps there's some other car models that would fit the idea? Not that I have any suggestions myself, but it sounds like a good idea (in my own head anyway)!

[@jefflindeman2145]

Brings back memories. I had a 1989 Corolla GTS with the double over head cam engine. That car seemed fast at the time and was a blast to drive. It was all black with ground effects and a factory spoiler.

[@ALT3REDB3AST]

Me too!!!

[@adafrost6276]

I have one now I just got, need to do a clutch job on it and I'll be ready to head on out for some sporty slow car fun. Kinda unloved by many since it's FWD, but it looks amazing (better than the 86 imo) and still has that glorious 4A-GE.

[@Videoswithsoarin]

thats cool i have one of those AE92s also

[@Senza_1]

I can tell you’re telling the truth because you use the term “ground effects”. My dad is the only guy I’ve heard use that term. OG 👍🏻

[@FELIPE8226M]

I’ve always thought those were sweet looking just don’t like that they are FWD

[@ddy3smptr]

Out of all the Donut videos I’ve watched this is the one that makes me a little jealous. Spending a day with cool cars out on PCH in Malibu and through the canyons? Just a great way to make a living😁

[@sk8xaq]

I seriously love what you guys are doing with all the track time you've acquired. Driving all of these awesome new and old cars is a very cool series. Donut Media Rocks!

[@sk8xaq]

All the side-by-side comparisons are what make it way more interesting than the one-off reviews.

[@arkwright4354]

If I had $30,000, I’d definitely get the AE86 not because of Initial D growing up but because it’s a car that you see rarely sometimes and it’s a car that despite its age, is a timeless classic

[@noodle7897]

I’d do the sane thing because the gr86 looks very luxurious and it is obviously a sports car and i live in a 3rd world country, i am certain it would get vandalised at some point because it happens alot. Ae86 however, No one would vandalise or steal a 38 year old toyota would they?

[@noodle7897]

@mrmap4875well that's considering i the cars cost the same you know, also now i thought about it the newer car would be taxed alot wouldnt be affordable even if it was free

[@vjollila96]

tbh in the sequel MC drives the GR86 so either one is good choice for intial d fan

[@YzuAiha]

modern cars look so similar, the Ae86 is one of a kind.

[@WinchesterLock]

Love the old boxy cars, there is just something magical seeing all those classic straight lines and angles on a car body.

[@coeyischiron9297]

Finally, a GR86 in a Donut episode! I love the 86 and I'm so happy you guys have a review about it!

[@ALE5six1]

Love this old vs new comparison! More please!! 🙏

[@WesJacobs33]

Because of Initial D the AE86 is always gonna hold a special place in my heart.

[@tcmr5775]

Nolan has really blossomed into a great on-screen personality. Love to see it.

[@roddydykes7053]

Easy to do when he can just follow Zach’s lead

[@Rahhvin]

@@roddydykes7053 Was he following Zach's lead when he stalled the GR86 and fell out of it, only to immediately deliver his line? You can't teach that kind of talent. xD

[@TheRockStar04261999]

Boys this feels like an old top gear segment and I need more of that in my life

[@fearplug6027]

just realized Zach's miata puts down 263 wheel horse power before upgrading his fuel pump, to put that in perspective he makes the same amount a 4.6L ford v8 that is insane

[@caddy-co]

All I've owned so far is 90s cars and there is just something nice and different about a older car not seen anymore

[@pdc66]

Yeah but Boxy= better

[@ricardopalmer93]

Preach

[@fastinradfordable]

If you buy the boxy youll drive that bitch to retirement. Buy the new one won’t last your marriage

[@superstarr_26]

🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@gradientO]

Kia EV9 enters the chat

[@gavinoko9710]

Boxy on the outside vs a boxy powerplant

[@frankydaisukegiron9168]

I had ae86 for a decade plus, the GT86 handles better more power its just a superior Newer car. dont forget the AE86 was a eco car that had a performance setup FR, that being said, i recommend 1.8 MX5 flip ups, GT86, but the memories i had in my ae86 with family , old gf and friends meant the world. btw a GT86 stock form is easier to drift than a s13 with a welded diff. and BRZ diff is not as aggresive as GT86 since Brz is meant to grip while GT86 is meant to drift.

[@zandern9489]

I daily my 88 Celica, but one constant worry is the possibility of damage. Finding parts is becoming more difficult. I love driving it, but if I had to choose daily, moving forward, I’d probably go with something newer like the GR86.

[@roddydykes7053]

My first car I daily-d was a black ‘92 Celica GT from 2011-2014, I miss that simplicity in both life and car. Rust basically took the suspension mounts and undercarriage, and some kids triple barrel-rolled it off a ditch a few weeks after I upgraded from it. Sad end to a beautiful car

[@DuBstep115]

The difference between European and Japanese old cars vs American. You can buy off-the-shelf for 100 year old car like Model T Ford but can't find wiper motor for e31 bmw from 1999

[@lars1588]

@@DuBstep115Tell me about it. I drive a '60 Chevy Corvair 769 and I can find almost any part brand new and order it immediately. This is not usually the case for imports, and thus my heart goes out to drivers of much "newer" cars that have to work much harder to find parts.

[@MusicWisp]

Yeah I have a 90 Corolla and I’m so close to just hoarding parts

[@dennismokry258]

Would love to hear your thoughts on the daddy of the AE86, the TE72. It is so often overlooked and I learned so much of how to drive by having one as my first car.

[@Jacobtheunwise]

Good luck finding one. I bought one of a fella before covid for 10k and ended up selling it for 25k with a 4afe engine swapped into it

[@DuBstep115]

@@Jacobtheunwise Only "cheap" rwd corollas left are the KE70 the Dx corolla. Cheapest running one with clean MOT is 3500€ that I could find.

[@antoshy]

Imagine driving 86 while listening to Initial D's musics

[@treebones2000]

Would love to see one of these kinds of videos comparing the different generations of Supra! As a Mk3 owner it would be awesome to see the car I love so much be spotlighted a bit more! Such an underrated car imo

[@mikeypetrino4]

Nothing like donut media in the morning

[@iReinTV]

Abrahams 86 is RIDICULOUSLY clean. Seriously, and a great guy too

[@thinkeightsix]

My 86 was my daily for the first 6 years of ownership. Now my Tacoma is and even though I love my truck I miss driving my 86 when I'm not in it.

[@Fisheee123]

Petition to make a shirt that says "The steering wheel feels very steery"

[@lingtondaniel]

I'd go one better... This shifter is very hard 😂

[@AtotheJZA70]

It’s always a tough decision between the Levin front end and the pop up headlights. Either way, looks awesome❤

[@maxtremegamer_]

The videos have been fire lately, would definitely like some b2b to come back but can't complain too much.

[@sieve5]

For real though, the gr86 is such a good value. You've got to respect them a whole lot. The new integra should be in the same bracket but instead they decided to go after the ILX's market.

[@gotworc]

The Integra is literally the fancier civic why would it be a better deal than a civic?

[@sieve5]

@@gotworc I am old. The old integra was such a lighter, more basic car than cars nowadays.

[@RemixerUltimate]

@@sieve5 but it was a more upscale civic, even at the time was it not?

[@positrack99]

At least GR86 kept the tradition of no power and even less torque.

[@Artoliann]

Nobody should buy an AE86 at $30,000. They are worth like $15,000 max, anybody paying over that is overpaying in my opinion. SR5s are much cheaper than factory GTS models, and doesnt take too much modification to do a GTS conversion. Great video Donut, but really the AE86 and GR86 are not comparable price wise at all, because if you have $30,000 you would be crazy to spend that on a 40 year old car.

[@PrinceofPwnage]

Please keep making "hands on" and "on location" videos like these! ❤

[@csav1551]

The GR86 is easier to get a hold of...to find a mint condition AE is really hard or at least one that is good enough to fix up.

[@ryanbrewin1693]

I used to own an ae101 trueno GT-Apex. Yeah it was fwd, but that sweet, sweet 4age engine with ITBs and VVT combined with a lightweight chassis made it an absolute joy to drive. I currently have an rs200 altezza, and I am seriously considering selling it to buy another 4age corolla. Cracking cars

[@arcanevoid9199]

try looking at 2zz powered Toyotas aswell, basically a newer 4age

[@Boostedm3nace]

Life is stressful as hell and you guys always make feel good content. Thanks for everything 🍩

[@tomasfiala1424]

Not always, remember the odd era of daily pushing random tool tier lists and such consumer, pointless stuff? This is coming from an Undergrounder

[@lilvanhooters]

@@tomasfiala1424 who cares bruh the dude was just being thankful. the internet ffs

[@MythicR]

Last bit with Justin is what I needed this morning😂. Another great vid, as well!

[@gagecalabretta126]

That's a hard choice. Old one will probably grow in value quicker but the new one will at least be warrantied and easier to source parts for. Either way they are both rad as hell. 😁❤

[@FamousByFriday]

That’s a great point. The AE will cost additional in repairs to keep going. I have an old motorcycle and it breaks in ways I could never have foreseen. There is nothing better than when it’s running good on a nice day… but that’s not its default setting.

[@kevinsomarriba5780]

Nobuaki Katayama, The chief engineer who worked on the AE86, later went on to lead the development of the first gen Lexus IS300 (Altezza)!

[@brianwoznik9868]

It would be great if these videos were longer format. I love the information you provide and more would be better.

[@Mcali1984]

People upset about the Power Specs. Do a down hill run against a car with higher HP and weight. I’m talking twisties. See where this car shines. Anyone can mash a peddle. Touge takes a lot more skill from the driver. Where tuning pretty much every bolt matters. 😊

[@peterparker3668]

@ Nolan, if you like the GR86 and really are considering one I’d recommend the GT86 for very solid canyon carver if you can’t find a GR86. I think Donut could use a Touge/canyon run project with you at the helm! We’d be so down to watch you!!

[@anattempttomakecontent776]

They can find a GR dont worry lol they are in cali

[@danlee5138]

New Hi-car Vs Low-car series?

[@skyline2601]

@@danlee5138 That would be really cool, but it'd basically be the same thing as the track Subies.

[@prettzx]

​@@skyline2601 high - low drift gt86s

[@danlee5138]

@@skyline2601 I guess, but they were time attack cars, these would be dailies that would do canyon runs on the weekend.

[@garettotis3421]

This was one of the best videos y'all have made in awhile hands down

[@mrinfinity1112]

I love how they act all serious at the beginning, kinda TV car show reviews. Then they both have fun and laugh like kids. Cars are amazing.

[@TheOfficialDaBoogaloo]

I love how they didn't have a camera rig to shoot inside the car so they mounted the camera onto a harness and used that!

[@japsniper1980]

Would love to see similar comparison videos of old/new cars. Like the first and most recent Civic Type R, Toyota Supra and R32 vs R35.

[@jamesscott1849]

It kinda makes me sad. I want a Gr86 but my 2016 Focus ST comes with better options. For like 15k You get a car with a small turbo, Recaro seats, 6-speed manual, heated seats, heated steering wheel, nice head unit, 252 Buff Horsies, 270 lb-ft of torque, hatchback storage, up to 30mpg

[@taylorc4476]

Do the same thing with the Z. New Z vs. $40K 240Z with the appropriate period mods (triple Mikunis, headers, Datsun speed suspension, MiniLites). It would be similar results of the same question.

[@corbechupacabra]

I love that you just kept the take when Nolan just falls out of the car.

[@lonewanderer3603]

Most important, you can still get the 86 with a manual, as God intended.

[@Gui-bt6gp]

The Levin should REALLY receive an Up to Speed epsiode!

[@frizzvictor1535]

There is a Up To Speed on the AE86, I miss that show 😢

[@Gui-bt6gp]

@@frizzvictor1535 Yeah but it's AE86 *Trueno* not the Levin

[@atouze]

@@Gui-bt6gp pretty sure they're identical, apart from the headlights

[@oscaritorubi7997]

same car, different headlights

[@othnielmcfarlane3612]

@@atouze nope, both the 85 (levin) and 86 had either pop-up or regular headlights, but the 85 had less power, worse brakes, and a less strong body

[@zachsmith8447]

This video came out at the PERFECT time because I've been considering the gr86 for quite some time.

[@SlavJerry]

gr86 and ae86 is japanese version of "this is brilliant, but I like this"

[@Movic__]

HEY FAN, I HAVE GIFT 🎁 FOR YOU, SEND A DIRECT MESSAGE!!

[@tturi2]

I would buy one if they weren't so expensive (50k aud), one with big cams would suit me

[@brickernats]

i’ve got an ae86 😎

[@cenciende9401]

They've been around since 2012, get a used one, they're cheap enough to be a common P-plater car

[@DEADMEM3]

Easy fix. Buy a ke70, fit it with a 4age and boom, budget 86

[@Quick.555]

2 great videos in a row!? Can’t believe it, hope you guys continue with more stuff like this 👍

[@varung-x8e]

6:19 unless you are a certain laid back japanese teenager whose dad owns a tofu restaurant

[@fieldsgreen5024]

AE for the history and memes, Gr for actual performance

[@Megacooler96_]

That AE86 is an absolute beauty

[@sonicthehedgehog989]

Already have my GR86, black with a silver stripe, covered with PPF. I love it so much, this car is going to stay with me forever, even though I've 2 other cars. The GR86 is sooooooo special.

[@karlj1717]

That AE86 looks awesome what a great looking machine I think if I had the money I’d definitely get one.

[@rbehin]

The AE86 got me in a 180deg spin with the flash of an eye on an icy road. My first car 😍

[@YLT85]

I've owned an AE86 coupe, a 13 FRS, and bought my 22 GR86 a year ago. I absolutely love this car and the lineage. Recently took it through the mountains/canyons in Malibu. Planning on doing more drives just as soon as it stops raining lol. In my opinion, fun factor would be AE86 > GR86 > FRS/GT86

[@novak1387]

We need up to speed videos on Ken Block and Michael Schumacher.they both deserve being talked about

[@GoodOlPastaCake]

The GR86 is definitely one of my dream cars if I could afford it

[@roboticunclephil]

it is one of the most realistic & attainable dream cars, you'll get there man

[@viper2148]

I still remember checking out an AE86 Toyota back in 1985 when I was stationed in Okinawa. It was such a great little car. Sadly 😕I couldn't afford it because I was having a kid and ended up buying a Plymouth Horizon (yuk).

[@vic_cresss]

PERFECT VIDEO FOR ME RIGHT NOW!! I’m gonna buy a GT86 or a GR86 and I’m tryna figure out which one I want and what year etc. I’ve found one and I thiiiiink imma get it by the end of the year! 🎉 whoop whoop first car leshgoooo

[@SaticPvP]

if you can wait till u can get ur hands on a gr86. u wont regret it

[@mrbepis]

Agree with Marlon. The GR86 is an objectively better car. Hate on me all you want, but it does everything the GT86 can do, but better.

[@vic_cresss]

@@mrbepis thanks for the advice! I agree with you, BUT I like how the GT looks over the GR which is really the only issue for me :/ I’m heavy on aesthetics so it could be a deal breaker 🤔

[@mrbepis]

@@vic_cresss Follow your heart dude. If you find the GT to be a better looking car, then go for it. Just be notified by the infamous torque dip in the mid rpms. I've driven a GT multiple times, and its a super fun car to drive. But the torque dip is quite noticeable

[@berky1976]

I have a GR86 on order... though it might be a 2024 model by the time my allocation turn comes up. I like the exterior styling of the AE86... there are not many 80's vehicles that I like the interiors on. Plastics were super crappy back then and brittle, plus the styling was just off the wall in some cases. The wheel selection is a great fit for the AE86. Great job to the owner for that selection, really fits the car well.

[@lyceargtx3779]

I know what this had to feel like. I had a Mercedes C300 W204 with 231hp and upgraded brakes, suspension, etc and i loved it. Selled it bcs it was to expensive at one point. Now i drive a W124 230E from 1988 with 132hp and the feeling when driving this "slow" car is different but not worse. I love it to cruise and in curvy mountain roads its a way harder kick of adrenalin when you dont have any kind of electronic help from the car that keep you alive.

[@DuBstep115]

W124 is way too safe and underpowered to give you any adrenalin kick unless its winter

[@ernestlenaerts]

I would have loved to see some more shots of the back while the GR86 was driving

[@antoban691]

0:22 Initial D

[@GhostlyGhille]

Paying 30k for the AE86 is wild. 3-5k max it's 40 years old and slow. That power output is adorable.

[@master_ark2401]

Love the og AE86

[@eddyd.105]

Gotta say the last episode and this one are fantastic. This feels like true donut, not all that stupid trendy video crap you guys have been posting lately. 👏

[@nickthaskater]

How do you think they pay the bills for stuff like this?

[@alanfish91]

I actually have an AE86 as my daily driver. I've had it for 12 years now and it's never let me down. Best car I've ever had.

[@Lybrel]

Thanks for bringing up Initial D. Who doesn't want to be F&F Tokyo Drift? If I had the money, 20 year old R32 over a brand new Skyline anyday. Childhood nostalgia means a lot. Great video 👍

[@KMakoENVtuber]

Hate to break it to you, but you’re looking at 30 years old for the R32. Enjoy realizing that death is creeping up on you!

[@TheNewbie78]

“The steering wheel feels very steery” famous quote from an average dude on the internet.

[@TheEtherea]

At this point if you don't get it (ae86/ae85 (whatever)), you might never get it, and that's a thing you have to consider. New GR will still be available for quite a while, be it new specs of the car, updated versions or special trims.

[@LiAmTheAsIaN1994]

AE86 no doubt

[@THENOOBISYOU]

Take it from my perspective if you’ve never watched Initial D before

[@ljlv94]

Excelente video, se sintió como ver a James May y Jeremy Clarkson en sus extrañas competencias 🤣🤣🤣

[@alexb277]

In france the GR86 is at 34000 euros. BUT there is a tax for mother nature that you have to pay to buy it brand new, that tax cost 16950 euros... This is INSANE.

[@caetanolopes2766]

Costs 60k in Portugal... 50k 2 years used from toyota... It's just ridiculous

[@alexb277]

@@caetanolopes2766 Yep, it has been updated here too, the car cost 100 000 now with taxes, this is INSANE

[@gymusen]

The AE86 is nice an all, but that 30k price tag for an almost 40 years old car doesn't look that worth it, I gotta pick the GR86, the extra HP and safety equipments make it a great choice for a modern sports car, plus it can be used as a daily too,

[@praneetprakash]

AE86 ❤❤❤

[@oofngoof231]

Insane work and effort put into this professionally produced video

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[@broceratops1337]

I never thought I'd say this, because I'm a huge fan of Money Pit. But it's nice to see Zach not working on a car or worrying about a car. He is just enjoying a nice drive.

[@Movic__]

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