Why Honda Killed Their Greatest Car

[@just_passing_through]

If Mazda can still make an MX-5, Honda can make a 2024 S2000.

[@DreuScuhDoo]

Imagine a 2025 S2000 Type S

[@VBMichael_D]

Honda can make, RWD cars. V8s, inline 6 cylinder engines and turbos, but they won't. They apparently never rode tricycles as children, else they'd have learned early that FWD sucks.

[@LOGEZZZZZBRO]

Everything on the S2000 was bespoke and insanely engineered, especially when compared to a Miata. For that reason they won’t make another, just too darn expensive.

[@just_passing_through]

@ Everything on the 2024 MX-5 is bespoke and unique to the MX-5 model. No difference at all.

[@Spike00773]

They could, but they would probably have to go turbocharged, so it wouldn't be the s2000 that people are hoping for.

[@shred_zed1]

ain't no reason to throw my 2009 honda accord straight under the bus with 5 seconds damn donut doin me dirty

[@ShadowSentry211]

2005 here and same 😭

[@73sour99]

Came here to say the same shit 😂😂 leave us 8th gen owners alone

[@koraegi]

​@73sour99 my precious 8th gen accord was stolen out my driveway

[@orenjixi]

I got a 9th gen but still felt the hate seeing the accord there

[@ekisfrole3118]

I've got a CD7, but I can't look the other way when the accord gang is under attack.

[@DrazerTM]

Forbidden Jimmy up to speed!!!

[@Babakanosh]

I feel like the AP1 vs AP2 argument is a meme and just really a bunch of people coping with their purchase. It's very similar to the 1.6 vs 1.8 Miata arguments. Here are some of the bonuses that you get with an AP2 by giving up that silly 700 rpm and world record title people always like to mention: -More reliability (no valve retainer issues) - Better acceleration -The ability to pass people on the highway without downshifting -Plug and play hondata with turbo support and launch control (post 2006, can funnily enough increase redline of car to 8500 with no changes or damage to engine, high flow cat recommended) -A differential that can take a launch -Stronger transmission with better synchros -traction control (can be fully turned off) -stability control (can be fully turned off) -Better wheel options - Suspension and handling characteristics that while more mild for the track actually let you drive the car more reliably to the limit without being a professional driver -Better resale value (wonder why....) - Better AC - Slightly nicer interior options (AP1 seats better for the track since they have the helmet slot though). -CR variant and CR parts compatibility. Both cars however are somehow overrated and underrated. If you ever get the chance to drive one, take it. I know that the NSX is the flagship but I actually consider the S2000 honda's best car ever made. The NSX might be faster, etc but I will always see it as the very perfect Ferrari clone it was meant to be. The S2000 is unapologetically a Honda and what a Honda has been in racing for decades.

[@jimmy-buffett]

Owned an AP2 '06 and a '00 NSX after that. Best mod I ever did on the S was dropping the VTEC to 5100 RPMs via Hondata. Totally smoothed out the 4500-6500 range and kept it in VTEC when I shifted. So much about the S and NSX were similar that you can easily tell that they were built by the same company / designer. The joke I tell my S friends about the NSX is that the NSX has all the torque you wish your S had for 4 times the price.

[@alphatripduce]

I had an AP1 and the transmission woes hit me hard they are weekend canyon carvers but I wanted a track car to do auto x every weekend. the one thinthe ap1 did have was it was un governed so it had a higher achievable top speed with a hard top and underpanneling

[@TheOfficialOriginalChad]

Don’t forget another $5k+. You also give up another $5k+ for an AP2 lol

[@Babakanosh]

@@jimmy-buffett I agree. Did the same to mine and it was welcome change. Some people put it lower but I don't like VTEC engaging in everyday highway driving. It takes some of the drama from the driving experience but it makes for a faster and better behaved car. I always questioned why Honda didn't do that from the factory.

[@Babakanosh]

@@alphatripduce In my opinion if as a buyer, top speed is a focus then the S2K isn't a good platform. A stock S2000 needs too much road to get to their top speed and they, like most cars, become unstable. If you re stabilize the car with aero you will lose the top speed. Sorry to hear about your issues. I've known a few people personally with the same things happening. I always recommended a used AP2 trans to seap for people with issues but nowadays all the S2000 parts are so expensive

[@KevinBurkeRacing]

CR owner here, was an awesome day hanging with the donut crew. Happy to share the magic of the CR

[@Isaac-th1op]

Hiked by you guys on my way to do some climbing at the peak with my girl. It looked CLEAN

[@ppiriou]

I hate you. Why you can drive a CR and I don't have one?... Geez, your car is beautiful inside out!😆

[@TheMrgonzalo05]

Yo let me get a turn

[@KevinBurkeRacing]

@@TheMrgonzalo05 sure. Just beat my laptime at 13CW

[@kostis007]

Where do you live? please provide detailed address and where you park the car and what times you are not there.

[@libradude81]

Best description I've heard of the AP1 vs AP2 difference: "AP2 is a better car. AP1 is a better S2000."

[@TakaIguchi]

This is right. I love my Ap1.

[@SpaceEngineerErich]

I worked a contract in Sicily for 3 years. When I moved there, a local dealer had a 2001 black S2000 sitting in their showroom with the hard top. I was about to start making more money than I ever have and asked, How much? I had that beauty for 3 amazing years, but once the contract was over I had to sell it since it was euro spec and couldn't be imported to the US. I miss it every day, but I feel so blessed to have owned one for a while.

[@maxpowers5628]

Nice one. I’ve never seen one in Italy. You were lucky you had one there and that it wasn’t stolen in Sicily.

[@maxpowers5628]

I first saw the S2000 at the 1999 Melbourne motor show and fell in love. I ordered one on the spot and received it in 2000. It is chassis number 68 AP1. I still have kept it unmodified in total original condition with low kms. Even though I only drive it several times a year, people often ask me if I want to sell it and offer me more than what I paid for it. It’s been on the blocks for 5 years but is coming out for Christmas. This video has my juices flowing again. Thanks.

[@RogerLockwood-m9s]

Love my 2005. Drive it everyday

[@alexm4515]

I'm gonna be honest here. I really was hoping to NOT like Jimmy because I miss James Pumphrey. But, I gotta say, that for his first run at it, he did a great job. Good delivery and energy you got there kid. I wish you success and look forward to more of your reviews.

[@tedecker3792]

I’ll have to agree. Impressive.

[@mangledJUNK]

He has been doing great! I think on a previous episode they said he had been a writer primarily at first but really happy he made the shift because I agree his dilevery and energy are great. I love watching someone talk about something they truly love and are passionate about.

[@alexm4515]

@@mangledJUNK Ok, we have an issue. You made my point way more eloquent than I did. Never do that again! LOL

[@tedecker3792]

@ the passion shows through for sure.

[@nvrndingsmmr]

Why would you *hope* to not like a new host? This just proves my point that all the blind hate for Jimmy at first was based on nothing, lmao.

[@christianl.9021]

My Girl told me she wanted a convertible as a summer car i suggested this. Little does she know i am saving for this for a while alread.y

[@bri-manhunter2654]

😂😂😂

[@sumblwnup8695]

Win Win

[@danield56347]

good luck cuz they boutta double in price after this video 😭

[@philspaghet]

Unironically this is a fantastic reliable summer daily lol

[@MUSHIN_888]

R u gonna let her drive it tho

[@cris5549]

I wish they would bring that car back. It still looks good even today.

[@thewhitedread7572]

Be careful what you wish for

[@bobcreature2127]

Parents still have the one my mom bought new in 04 and if it doesn't go to me in the will, I will become estranged from the brother that gets it.

[@ichigozanghetsu]

The S2000 was a modern classic the day it came out, and the design is timeless.

[@Jeffabelle]

@@thewhitedread7572 yea prelude is coming back and is not looking good so far, every prelude fan still like the older ones better.

[@mrbosky710]

@@Jeffabelle yeah unfortunately, it won't look remotely similar like toyota's new supra 🤮

[@youuui]

Makes me glad I still own my 07 after 10+ years of ownership. Even after owning a newer Honda Accord 2.0T, it hits different when I take the S out. Nothing really compares.

[@mm6705]

Its such a special car. I still think about it, and I only borrowed one for 2 days. I had multiple people try to race me on the highway, every time I parked it I had people of all ages asking me about it, and short gears with vtec meant I was already in 3rd gear at 45mph with a shit eating grin on my face :)

[@itsanuruck]

Have an 01, still running strong at 190k👍👍👍

[@EnhancedTrashBin]

@@itsanuruck I just bought my 01 like 6 months ago, I heard about the whole valve spring retainers can possibly fail. Have you ever checked/replaced them?

[@itsanuruck]

@EnhancedTrashBin Welcome to the family. AP1's are a better choice than AP2👍imo... My car still runs with the stock retainers. The only way you can really break those is either 1 of 2 things from what I heard and seen on other AP1's. Not topping of your oil and/or really keeping it high at the rpms for a certain amount of time. I mainly keep it street and mountain drives as I plan to keep it. But regular oil top offs along with valve adjustments and you'll be fine👍 Also be sure to drive it hard once in awhile as our valves can bent if you don't drive it as was built for...

[@EnhancedTrashBin]

@@itsanuruck ah I see thanks for the info! I definitely do try to at least drive it a little hard but not crazy. I'm still kinda afraid to even get to 9K rpm despite driving the car for 6 months lol, I've only ever went within 6-7k rpm.

[@Xtreme_Motorsports]

1:40 “Wherever you turn the car goes” WELL YEA I WOULD HOPE! 😂

[@deadlybladesmith3093]

Just as prices were starting to stop going up, Donut makes a video on S2000s 😂😂

[@1HeatWalk]

Doubt it will ever go back down. It's just going to go up like the original NSX.

[@Finalstar111]

@@1HeatWalkgood.

[@xgearheart8592]

Right? After fast and the furious prices doubled. Unfortunately many of them have been hacked and modded.

[@shutterbuggification]

If you're worried about KZbin videos bumping prices up you kids will never own cars.. haha. Work dudes! S2000 is definitely affordable for an adult with a job.

[@kshybros8835]

2 months ago i got an ap1 with 160k miles for 12k (clean title) and it has been a blast to drive. it brings a smile to my face every time i drive it.

[@iancameron415]

Jimmy, you crushed this video, you did such a good job. It felt like old times on Donut today. Great video!

[@Parker--]

Elaine Proast be like, “It was Suzuka, yada yada yada, I joined Ferrari.”

[@thedirtyscotTV]

"After 5 minutes I have so much confidence in this car". Yeaaaahhhh, a lot of S2K owners have said this right before the rear end whipped around and humbled them haha. If you think a Miata is snappy on the limit then you're in for a shock with these things. Obviously 20+ years later there are setups/mods to eliminate this almost entirely but still.

[@middleagedbaldguy6774]

I see them at auction fairly often and most have salvage titles.

[@VBMichael_D]

Sounds like a similar reason that so many more-ons wreck sportbikes and 2 stroke dirt bikes. They are too stupid to understand how to operate a high end powerband engine.

[@bri-manhunter2654]

Snap steer! 300ZX TT has the same issue.

[@TheOfficialOriginalChad]

IME the snap oversteer isn’t as bad as people say. I’ve driven around 30 S2ks on track, of all years and insanity levels, and never experienced snap oversteer. The 2000 was probably the closest to “snap” because the steering ratio was so high, so overcorrections were HUGE overcorrections.

[@Wallstreetavarice]

Keiichi Tsuchiya (the drift king) put it best IMO - he counted from 1 to 10 and sped up to imitate how quickly cars transitioned to oversteer at the limit. The AP1 counts up from 7 to 10 real quick - and he is spot on. The difference between no oversteer and a lot of oversteer is very little when on throttle. On the other hand, it's very balanced during trail braking, where the tail will rotate, but very predictably.

[@CantUwU]

Had a Honda prelude 5th gen. I put in a s2k ap1 cluster, Tan s2k seats, s2k steering wheel and the shift knob cause i liked it all! Lol

[@omega1575]

Calling that that the best sports car of all time really makes me want to see you guys get Bob into all the different rwd convertibles the Miata inspired (S2k, Z3, Z4, etc), and compare them to a Miata

[@MrMostdeaf]

That's a really fun idea!

[@ApexClubRacer]

The s2k was not inspired by the Miata… literally this video covers the origins with the s500.

[@Wolfen_Argent]

@@ApexClubRacerexactly. Someone didn’t watch the video before commenting

[@halycon404]

The problem with calling anything in this class of car the best is the Elise. I know people think Lotus and think it doesn't count because it was expensive. But the club version of the s2000 and an Elise, more or less same sticker price. And well. The Elise. It's a better drivers car.

[@austinvickers8898]

I would love that! I have a 03 z4 and I really love it! I liked the style a little more than the Miata, except for the pop up headlights, those are just awesome.

[@SavageAirguns]

This was the car I bought while I was in the Infantry Marines. I added a new cool air intake, racing transmission, lightweight racing clutch, titanium lifters, titanium valves, and some other stuff like bigger brakes. Then I dropped a carbon fiber hood, carbon fiber front and back fenders, white front side turn signals, sparco racing seats, pop off steering wheel, and a carbon fiber wing. It was all siver minus the hood, which was non painted carbon fiber. It was a looker, and it was a blast to drive. The fastest I ever had it was 168 mph, and it was pegged to the floor. Whenever I drove it, people would gather around and ask "wow whats that!" I sold it in 2012 as I have kids and its only a two seater. I miss it everyday.

[@SavageAirguns]

Also it was a 2002 and I bought it privately in 2006 for 12,000 cash with 23,000 miles on it.

[@anotherstupidhipster3551]

Sounds like it's time to start saving so you can buy another.

[@hathaway.1166]

SICK bro

[@jrod1591]

Sorry for your loss. I had a kid and had to get rid of my 2002 canary yellow stock.. was everything I needed and I feel like it got me so much ass back in the day. You go 140+ in a drop top, it’s the panties that start to drop.

[@kimaniharris7922]

As an AP1 owner, i hope they don't bring it back. Anything that comes out today will either be low displacement turbo charged, some kind of hybrid, or well over $70k; which isn't what the S2000 is about. I love the S2000, and I'd love to see a modern version, but the new emissions standards would absolutely neuter it. As for AP1 vs AP2: the AP2 is the better car, but the AP1 is the better S2000, at least in my opinion!

[@redeyedfreaks]

Truth. Wish they would make more morern, new, fun cars. But I can't see them successfully bringing back the s2k and having it be well received. Could probably make a new crx, crz, or del sol work though. Those were fun with low enough expectations lol

[@Richard-Gore]

Could be a S1500h or S1500 e:hev or something like that: Good car for the era, but not a S2000.

[@MonicaHolly143]

Something an ap1 owner would say

[@bri-manhunter2654]

After driving both I prefer the torque of the AP2, especially with bigger cams and ported head.

[@8bithack]

You realize it was an expensive car when it came out in 95 too, right? like $35kish, which in today's dollars is $70k. That's exactly what the S2000 was.

[@Mawndow]

When I looked at getting an s2000 I didn't care AP1 or AP2, I just wanted clean title, not too many miles, and a price within budget 😂 ended up getting a '04 and I have zero regrets. You can't go wrong honestly, but either way good video 👍

[@1HeatWalk]

I have a 05 similar to yours. Our car doesn't come with traction control and its drive by cable. It's the only most analogue AP2s.

[@mikegrizwold2522]

@@1HeatWalk Have an 05 also in Grand Prix white with the tan interior. Absolutely love it!

[@Mawndow]

Yes! I like how it's in a way a nice middle ground between the rawness of the first models and the refinement of the final years.

[@ducducgoose]

This is why I'm keeping mine. I don't think Honda will ever bring the S2000 back.

[@artsohc]

If they do, it won’t be the same.

[@ducducgoose]

@@artsohc exactly, too many regulations they have to abide so I don't think there will be a successor to the s2000. I hope Honda proves me wrong though.

[@brobocops]

It’ll be like the NSX or Integra or Prelude, only bearing the same name.

[@artsohc]

Great video Jimmy. If any manufacturer can bring a car like the S2000 back to market in the spirit of what it was in 2009…it’s Honda. Unfortunately, if there’s any manufacturer who is likely to completely ignore their vocal fan base, it’s Honda.

[@ZeroHourProductions407]

Toyota be like "hold my $10000 sake" because they'd been ignoring SO many ways to please their fans. they've actively refused to even entertain the crate engine business, meaning that even a beat-up 2JZ-GTE engine unironically goes for more than an entire corvette (base). They (Toyota) could have kept iterating and making that engine in the twenty some years since to maybe have a version of it compliant with modern emissions and safety stuff to drop into a new gen Supra, but because those cracked out idiots sold their soul for the _goddamned Prius_ Toyota will continue to be known as *weaponized BORING* on wheels.

[@Serenity_Dee]

Not one, but _two_ of the best sports cars ever made. They also made the NSX.

[@AugustaWeaver-f8r]

Whoa, this is epic! Keep it up!

[@RealistRob]

I had two AP2's in the past and I miss them every day. I'm biased but I did enjoy the AP2 more than when I drove my friends AP1. The AP2 felt more refined and the little extra low end torque was very useable. I hope Honda makes another S2000 like roadster again. Sure the Civics' and other cars in their fleet are high sellers, but having something like the S2000 added a little extra flavor to their lineup. Thanks for showing off the awesomeness that is the S2000!

[@Jasper16Did]

Why cardboard Zach Jobe chilling in the back? Give that guy an NIL deal 😂 7:12

[@Thehobbitplaysgames]

I was lucky enough to find an ap2 for 14k with only 96k miles, it was a salvage but had absolutely no damage so I went for it, that was two years ago and it still amazing

[@corman20]

One of my favourite memories was when I came down to visit a friend in SF, and we took her S2000 down the Pacific Coast Highway to Vegas. We rode with the top down all the way - in the middle of November. It was still a blast!

[@turbo_brian]

Jobe photobombing in the background of the entire video without his consent is hillarious

[@alienturtle1946]

1:30 without ever having driven an S2K, my guess is the steering isn’t heavy to us millennials and older, it’s just that newer cars all have steering that’s super light.

[@stephenhodge6441]

One of the biggest problems with this car was the price when compared to what else you could get back then for the same price.

[@eleventhfromheaven]

I've owned my S2000 for 6 years now (we met at a meet like 5 years ago Jimmy lol) and my AP1 is pretty awesome but beware of the snap. It's not as big of a deal as people make it but it's secretly one of the best parts of the car. When I can balance the car on that edge of snap oversteer, I can get the car to rotate at insane speeds that didn't feel possible if I went any slower. It's something you need to experience on track because it's not really safe to get to that limit on the street until you get used to it

[@Not.The.Avg.Smitty]

I'm using a s2k transmission mated to a k24a2 and dropping it in an s10. Teaching my boy frame off resto with slight modification.😉

[@omega1575]

How high is it going to rev?

[@VBMichael_D]

Why? In no universe is a K24 better than an LS, or even an older SBC, especially if you're going to put it in an S-10.

[@Not.The.Avg.Smitty]

@omega1575 we'll be going haltech, so all of them.🤣

[@Not.The.Avg.Smitty]

@@VBMichael_D Because I can(hopefully), also Weight distribution as the whole package weighs less than an ls or on old cast v8. We don't just mash the pedal and go straight ahead here, that's too easy.

[@odysseus3683]

As an 88 s10 owner. I approve my dood. Thing will scream

[@Neilly671]

0:10 that's my city

[@El-Fartomatic]

How much was it? Jk

[@Richard-Gore]

What? That's not a Honda City my friend. It's a Honda Civic! Alright just kidding!😂 I got you there. Which city is your city by the way, may I ask?

[@dragonflyjones4611]

Looks like Kansas City

[@Neilly671]

@@Richard-Gore calgary canada

[@Neilly671]

@@dragonflyjones4611 calgary canada

[@ErwinSchrodinger64]

Imagine what Honda could do today. A 2.9L NA I5 producing 400 horsepower revving to 9000 r.p.m. Not out of the realm of impossible considering that Porsche does this with 4.0L boxer engines. Make the chassis at 2800lbs... a missile.

[@dubenick]

They do not make any of these. A inline 5, or a v10, or even anything close to three litres without it being a v6. Lol wtf

[@ErwinSchrodinger64]

@@dubenick Honda made inline 5's in their Acura line. They've made V10's in racing. They also have made V8, turbo V8, V12, airplane engines, power series engines, twin turbo V6... . They even made a V10 for the prototype NSX. The last part is speculation. Please read. Your icon being Jupiter is befitting. You're brain is full of light gases but your as dense at liquid metal at the core.

[@ErwinSchrodinger64]

@@dubenick They make all those engines. You're not too bright. You're flagging my responses. The lowest denominator of debate.

[@dubenick]

@@ErwinSchrodinger64 I don’t know what it means to flag a Respons. So I clearly didn’t do that Honda does not make a production inline 5, a v10, or a 3 litre engine that is not a v6, so how would they make a 2.9L inline. Their v10 was last used in f1. Are you just playing fantasy land?

[@ErwinSchrodinger64]

@@dubenick They made production I5's for their Acura division. What I'm saying is there isn't an engine layout they don't how to make (minus the I6 or boxer-6). Honda is not an automobile company. They're an engine maker, bar-none. If you ever followed their engine designs in racing, like their V12's, V10, V8s, V8 turbos, V6 twin turbos... you would know they make the most powerful and reliable. Companies like McLaren go to Honda for their engines because of their expertise. Honda is a nightmare in engine designs compared to their competitors. Honda makes airplane engines, lawn mower engines, generators, and so forth. You're saying that they're not capable of such a feat? When F20C came out, no one would have believed such an engine could exist at 120HP/Liter.

[@carloswick1]

2:05 JOBE still watching from above 😭🙏🏽

[@TimmyToasty]

Wait what?

[@OliviaMartinez-l3c]

You always keep it interesting!

[@localfiddlesticksmain2185]

My neighbor had a S2000 when i was a kid. He used to rip is on the freeway and would be heard for miles. Great memories

[@bbq8282]

still have our original owned 2008 CR with 52k miles on it. It is our garage queen. 😂

[@sendjamin]

11:02 beatles reference in donut is unheard of, james hated them lol

[@alexrobidoux2062]

Good luck getting one, unlike Miatas that are everywhere, the S2000 is much harder to find and the one in good shape are expensive.

[@ApexClubRacer]

Hooo boy the good ole AP1 vs AP2 discussion. *grabs popcorn*

[@doctorhickz1400]

Keep talking about them S2000 😎, raise that value.

[@sebastianvaldez7298]

i am very happy to see @donut Jimmy grow up as a professional and step up in his own industry and company from a backstage (ocassinally appearing) to now one of the main hosts of the show. and besides, what a great video to solidify his host starting role. Keep up Jimmy! very happy for you. (also accept that the S2000 is better than the Miata haha aknowledge your superiors xD) Sincerely, former S2000 AP2 owner 🌟

[@Samus5164]

I get sad on an almost daily basis that I can't import a Honda S660 to the USA.

[@ShaiyanHossain]

I got to drive one in Japan and its now my favorite Honda I have a type R back in the states but the S660 is just that much more fun

[@k-leb438]

Just some friendly input: bad ad segment timing. I love that you guys are making a video about this legendary car.

[@jamesiverson209]

The simple fact is that the S2000 shared absolutely nothing with any other car Honda produced, including the other car built in the same plant, the NSX. It was effectively an engineering exercise to see how far they could push a small sports car, and just about hand built. I don't know how much money Honda lost on each one they produced, but they definitely made the car at a loss, as they also did with the NSX. When the design aged, they couldn't afford to update it because that would have really meant starting the whole project over from scratch. But, damn, while they were building it, it was a hell of a thing. The car was noisy, cramped, it rode hard, and didn't fully come alive until you were absolutely flogging it. Which combined to make it an absolute joy to drive. And it was so well engineered that it was effectively bulletproof. Glad I was able to own and drive one for 10 years.

[@maxpowers5628]

I’ve had my Ap1 for 24 years now and still feel privileged every time I drive it. Yes it’s a special car.

[@hildebluee]

my favorite Jimmy video yet! dude has really come into his own as a host. good job man

[@zalbert1098]

jimmy nooo leave the s2000 alone it might be the last cool classic jdm sports car that doesnt cost a million bucks

[@UriyZ9mb8e]

The s2000 is already expensive. You're looking 20k minimum

[@Breezio69]

In my area they've held value like crazy. Never seen one under 20-30k unless it was wrecked. Not really any secrets being outed. Blame F&F, not poor Jimmy.

[@michaelrockwell9691]

I haven't watched Donut lately. Jimmy is really growing into his new role. Good job man!

[@bryannichelson2]

1:46 wherever you steer the car goes 🤔🤦🏻

[@kennethz6991]

I didn’t know that😰😨

[@victorcruz4249]

😂😂😂

[@Cavemanner]

Loved Jobe's cameo in this video! Always manages to bring such a good vibe 😂

[@davidtejeda1380]

Dude Honda dropped the ball with forgetting the s2k and the NSX

[@marcogamez6592]

Zach just chilling in the background with that proud face of approval

[@MrPrajitura]

Hating the AP2 for having a lower redline has got to be one of the dumbest things I’ve heard about cars ever

[@web]

VTEC kicks in differently as well. AP1 FTW

[@ecromancer]

People rag on the WRX for having a red like at 6k RPM but the torque curve stars at 2.5k and ends at 5.8k RPM. Having that much max torque is really fun. (WRX 2024 owner)

[@Raymo2u]

@@web That can be altered with tuning though

[@Wafflecombo54]

But who wouldn’t want to hit 9k+ rpm that’s F1 type shi

[@manlb9254]

Videos likes this makes me grateful to be an owner of an AP2 gotta get an 04-05 model though.

[@clintmiller88]

If Honda brought that back today it would sell like crazy

[@PickleBlox26]

Love seeing a Miata boy experience the S2K. Both great platforms in their own right. But Jimmy nailed it when he said the S2K is special.

[@ThatGuyGloomy]

I'm a simple man, i see 2 s2k's i click

[@80rae]

3:54 whoever put the 365 sample is a legend

[@S2K_Josh]

This video would have been perfect if they included a s2000 from 04-05 (AP1.5) since it’s a mix of both AP1 and AP2

[@Marz2695]

My EU spec 2004 MY is the sweet spot imo. Also much lower on tax where I live

[@S2K_Josh]

@ same here I have a 2004 US spec and I think it is a perfect middle ground between the AP1 and AP2 imo

[@PattySkeet]

I love that Jimmy hosts now. His passion is so evident.

[@TheDwightMamba]

There was a time not long ago when these were like $6K for a road course s2000. I bought an e36 M3 during that time. No regrets, but also some regret.

[@oscarmorales7821]

Damn Jimmy you was just spitting fire on this video, my favorite video on this series by far! Nice job dude! Keep it up!

[@TheGodEmperorOfMankind_]

The S2000 was the dream car of my childhood, there was this dude living nearby with a riced up S2000, I am talking bodykit, spoiler, vinyls, neon underglow the whole thing

[@SteveGergetz]

Great video. Thank you. Note (10:56) in this context it's "fleshed out" not "flushed out"

[@BRITEBOXMEDIA]

Wow, disappointed at the blatant Del Sol erasure. You gotta get some miles rattling your bones in a VTEC Del Sol if you wanna feel the lineage of Honda roadsters and really appreciate the S2000 and NSX

[@bennyjujubeats]

Came here to say this. I understand that there was WAY more behind the development of the s2000, but not a single mention!?

[@BRITEBOXMEDIA]

@@bennyjujubeats Jimmy isn't a Hondaboi (yet), he can be forgiven for not wanting to highlight the Miata killer

[@brobocops]

Nothing special about the Del Slow

[@BRITEBOXMEDIA]

@ talking like the EG isn’t the most popular body style

[@FrancisD]

I have an AP1 and man it is such a blast to drive. Would love to see you guys do an episode on the NSX next.

[@parker73724]

The S2000 is the miata but way cooler in my opinion. Not to say it's necessarily better but something makes it cooler.

[@Microplasticindulger]

Nothing like the Miata. The s2k is closer to the rx7 than a Miata

[@justinsgr8]

FD❤

[@cyantofu]

Jimmy is doing great in these revent vids

[@jaragon03]

0:59 technically its mid engine

[@AsswipeGarage]

No it's not. Mid means behind the driver but ahead of the rear axle. A Fiero is mid.

[@fuzzy0777]

I was literally about to comment the same thing🤣🤣🤣

[@MrDmac423]

@@fuzzy0777same😂

[@gregolas597]

Yup came to say this too lol. Not an acceptable mistake coming from a “car enthusiast” channel

[@zigmoney]

awesome video! loving jimmy's JDM knowledge being put into videos and I cant wait for the next episode of unclapped!

[@blks2k2]

Best. Car. Ever. Period.

[@nico_iannone]

This is my favorite jimmy video. Thank you jimmy

[@middleagedbaldguy6774]

Honda has lost their way and has started to ignore their customer base. No one wants a civic the size and weight of an Accord from less than 8 years ago. Ive been salty since they killed plans to make a Fit Si, literally a HIssy Fit. Mix in that nearly everything they make now is a CVT and I will keep my 8th and 9th gen Civic Si's thank you very much. I test drove a '24 Si and its a great car even if it has gained the middle age weight and the color choices are about as exciting as an insurance workshop. What I wont do is pay an additional 6k in market addendums so the dealership can gouge me. I have been a Honda fanboy for nearly three decades but the last 8 or so years is really testing my love for their brand.

[@VBMichael_D]

? I don't recall anyone, ever, with common sense and a 3 digit I.Q. deliberately going out to buy a sports car, and having FRONT WHEEL DRIVE as criteria. Makers continue to put out 'performance' cars with V6 engines, front wheel drive, automatic transmissions, that weigh as much as a full sized 4 door sedan of last decade.....and the lot of you 2 digit I.Q.s' not only 1. eat it up. but 2. defend those setups like a 3rd wave feminist defends her hatred of men. Like, wow.

[@waterloo123100]

Blame Cafe standards

[@middleagedbaldguy6774]

@@waterloo123100 That's what I don't get. My 14" Si gets 40mpg on the highway and sometimes more. My '11 gets the same and even more but its catless so I guess that doesn't count. What leaves me scratching my head is that much of what they do to mitigate emissions cuts the life of the engine. Which is more costly to the environment? 2 MPG less or having to replace the entire vehicle much sooner. If you look at the amount of oil/BTU's it takes to manufacture a car and then deliver it I don't see how the tiny gain in efficiency cancels out the monstrous amount of consumption it takes to produce a brand new vehicle.

[@PURENT]

​@@middleagedbaldguy6774 CAFE law which were lobbied in by automakers is designed by "footprint" which is the size of the car. 2024 CAFE standards for a Honda Fit sized car requires 55 mpg, for a Merc S-Class sized car it's 41 mpg. Naturally the Civic had to get bigger.

[@sebastianmorrison6114]

You’ve earned your way Jimmy we respect you now

[@cooldood84]

Keep up with these videos. It only helps brings up the value our s2k’s 😊

[@creightonsmith5333]

I've driven a 2002 AP1 since 2011 and have read or watched just about everything said and written about them. However I feel you did a fantastic job of covering the development, features and pure stoke of driving one. I have never driven a AP2 CR so I can't make a comparison but I have driven several AP2's and in my judgement the AP1 is the car the designers and engineers intended and the AP2 was a somewhat more domesticated version. Anyway, excellent review Cheers.

[@notcris_1556]

3:10 I think this is the first and last time i will hear someone call an s2000 a cucumber lmao

[@kitsmiller2]

Nice job Jimmy you've come a long way ✅👍

[@nicolasvelasquez4365]

Ufff hit me in the feels. I love my AP1. This bit of history reminds me of Up to Speed from old school Donut Media. Videos like this would be dope. Do one on the E46 M3 next!

[@dannyhauser3255]

Love this! To stay with the theme of small sports cars, you should do the 3 generations of MR2. AW11. SW20, W30

[@jorgeizDShiznit]

Thanks for making this video! It was really accurate and you explained it perfectly! Much love from a man who had 4 S2000’s😅

[@gabeh711]

OMG Jimmy is doing Up to Speed now!!!! GOOD FOR YOU MY DUDE!

[@clintmiller88]

A man behind NSX DC2 and s2k legend !!

[@DiustheZ]

Jimmy you are amazing at these deep dives into car history,. your passion is quite literally contagious. Happy to see you're not steepling your hands every 5 seconds as well, it makes a huge difference in body language. Speaking of you're doing a great job of keeping your hands in the truth plane, try and keep your palms open though.

[@kyleking3087]

Just got myself an Acura RSX, its no s2000 but its still a light, tight handling fun car to rev out. And i can fit bass guitars in the back

[@8.6GivenAdqVacSysm]

I got an RSX type S recently, and yeah it is dang fun! And yes has a very useful and practical amount of cargo space so you can drive it all the time.

[@bogdan9646]

Nice car on the Donut chanel !!! Greetings from Romania 🎉

[@morgansanders3653]

Jimmy being a Honda boy doesn't surprise me. Welcome to the club❤

[@psykolikwid]

Let’s go!!! Awesome video, welcome to the Honda club!! 😁

[@ANTheWhizkid]

I was working with the guys who developed the clutch for the accord sport. What a passionate team.

[@AHVENAN]

The S2000 is one of my alltime ultimate dreamcar!!

[@TheUrbanBeekeepers]

Do an episode on the SVT Focus, they're super rare and pretty cool.

[@JacobSmith-rh2sr]

Donut is back on track baby

[@RolanTHUNDER]

I'm a proud Honda S2000 (supercharged AP1) owner and I absolutely love it! There is no car like this! It is truly one of the best sports cars, one of the best cars and THE best roadster of all time. Yes, Honda ceased production in 2009 but the S2K lives forever baby

[@jareder86]

Love this format and the host. Reminds me of the old donut days and happy to see it.

[@Simon-Zephyr]

I bought an S2000 AP1 in April last year. It’s the best thing I’ve ever owned and I love it and will never sell it

[@GlampCity]

Had to double-check that this was a legit Donut vid rather than a guy with a GoPro. RIP Donut