How a Lawsuit Killed Youtube’s Most Exciting Project Car

Movie cars are always cool, but can the owners of Gone in 60 Seconds or Back to the Future sue you for build Eleanor or a Delorean Time Machine? What do you have to do to stop your movie replica from becoming a legal nightmare? If you want to build a Batmobile, or a Jurassic Park Jeep, or a Fast and Furious Supra, there's some things you'll need to know. Nolan takes a look at some of the most recent cases to rock the car world, and we find out exactly what puts a project at risk of being shut down.
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[@Magicwinguy]

this just shows how completely broken and abused copyright law is holy shit

[@Donut]

The true villain in this story

[@superbirdgaming7289]

@Donut media yup, copyright is the villain...

[@jorgebustillos8469]

Bubbles is right

[@Name-cy8ym]

I read your comment in Bubble's voice

[@jwayneair]

Copyright and trademark lawsuits is a cottage industry. It’s covered in an episode of Dirty Money on Netflix.

[@masonarledge6390]

They’ll probably copyright claim this video because he said “Eleanor” too much.

[@Phin_Again]

I wouldnt be surprised if they did, but this falls under fair use as it is educational

[@scottcol23]

I'm here to fine you 200 likes because you used the name Eleanor in a public post and have profited from it

[@WarriorsPhoto]

😂 🤣 Sad and true. (:

[@MJT-DA]

DON'T JINX IT

[@joshuacapinpin1304]

Dont name ur kid guys "Eleanor"

[@GlassFoxGear]

"I don't want to demonize Eleanor LLC", no that's okay we already hate them

[@jakemadness3044]

Get the torches and pitchforks bois.. wait this is 2020, grab your plate carriers and 11.3 inch .300 blackout builds bois

[@yoursensei8837]

@@jakemadness3044 time to plant some freedom seeds

[@zfixation9817]

@@jakemadness3044 I dont have a .300 blackout, alright if I use a Tavor tennis racket? 🤣 I really need to add a P90 violin to my collection. 🤣

[@nathan-ls8yw]

JakeMadness don't forget the molotov cocktails....

[@brianhoppes6470]

They've demonized themselves. Fully hate them for their greedy bullshit.

[@S__a_m_u_r_a_i]

BREAKING NEWS!!!! Shelby has won a lawsuit against Eleanor LLC and says that you can now build replica Eleanor mustangs without getting sued!!!!!

[@baraka629]

Eleanor better be liable for damages as well and sure as f-k be forced to return the vehicle they have no right to take in the first place.

[@poplaurentiu4148]

Any links for the source of that breaking news ?

[@paedahe4975]

Oh good, because I was going to call mine Melonor…

[@castorsquinas9354]

Ugly cars

[@anthonyhumbert8787]

@@poplaurentiu4148 Google is your friend.

[@BisforBuild]

Great video guys, thanks for the kind words. Hopefully this answers some of the questions i could not. I know there are a lot of unanswered questions about how stuff went down, and ill i can say is the american legal system is pretty broken when it comes to this stuff, and crazy shit happens because of that...

[@ZekeTheFreak304]

I’ve been watching the new body swap mustang videos always hearing you mention the one you did before. But I never could find videos for it and I guess this answers it. The new build is absolutely nuts though!

[@darthsnarf]

So if you named the car Bert you'd be fine? So stupid.

[@mansiege9234]

Keep ur heads high with Oscar n Kyle 😁 We always got ur back 👍

[@jameshall3119]

Build a pinto and call it ellenor

[@surapurna]

Love ur stuff m8! Kind and lovely support from Indonesia🇮🇩

[@scubasteve06]

Everyone on KZbin should upload a video called "Eleanor Mustang Build" on the same day.

[@the_one_titan3381]

That would kill youtubes servers lmao

[@Aziz_ao]

Lmfaoooo

[@sampson1582]

lawyers suck!

[@mosesgaegopolwe7016]

Comment of the year,totally agree😂

Tell me when

[@ericswires8534]

If Nolan was a lawyer he would plasti-dip his brief case.

[@AJ-nh8ik]

Hi-Lo Attorney at Law

[@IKESTERrocks]

Drifting into the court rooms having James screaming in the back objection baby

[@izunara5852]

This was a great comment lol

[@cooperquinn8897]

IKESTERrocks how have donut not hearted this comment too

[@malijames12]

@@cooperquinn8897 now they did

[@kevinmedina8277]

I’m back to say they can finally make and name it Eleanor 😂

[@justayoutuber1906]

I'd name it Elaine

[@poorguy915]

That sucks. They could've just asked him to not use the freaking name.

[@mentalwhitekid6962]

I now right wtf

[@febriandhani4859]

eleanor = karen

[@bg1321]

That’s not how these type of people operate sadly...they literally enjoy bending people to their will.

[@MrDeano-bm8qg]

Unfortunately they don't care about the people building just the money behind it.

[@z00t3d]

@@febriandhani4859 Make this happen!

[@JamesDavis-hs3de]

I think all car enthusiasts should name their cars “Eleanor”. Good luck suing 10 million people...

[@bewhitey]

Just the ones that are going to the junkyard to be crushed....so the copyright people will just get a bunch of turd cars!

[@nottodaybuddy370]

Name EVERYTHING Eleanor that is rubbish. Oh shit, my home loan is named Eleanor.

[@ilovekitkat7857]

He said only Mustangs with that name not ALL cars

[@numberoneguest3435]

"No no... He's got a point."

[@JAlexanderYugioh]

Damnit, I’m heading up to northern AZ buying a real mustang horse and naming it. Look out for the YT channel.

[@areminfoxxtrot1064]

Ahh yes, the power to steal someone's car legally...

[@justadummy8076]

I can sort of see where they’re coming from with the name, but the power to ACTUALLY SEIZE the car is actually ridiculous. They better have paid him back for whatever he spent on it (although I highly highly doubt it)

[@Declan_Meehan]

Yea, kinda sounds like a divorce lol

[@The_Jobe]

@Metal Morphine The original law wasn't the problem. Massive corporations pushing for market regulation such as longer copyright periods to prevent innovation is the problem. Simply put, this wouldn't be an issue if more innovation was allowed.

[@ShaunHensley]

They should have hidden the car

[@baconofburger8784]

I would have honestly just destroyed the car for fun before giving it away to them.

[@KyleHarrisonRedacted]

Way back when the Half Life 2 DM SDK dropped, myself and a ragtag group started a mod with it caked "QuakeSource", we'd remake the weapons, maps, and even things like rocket jumping with a small handful of unique ideas of our own. One morning I find an email from Todd Hollenshead in my inbox telling me to cease all activity in this mod otherwise Id Software would seek legal and takedown. This was my first time being approached by an industry professional but I took a moment to breathe and then replied back that my team and I had poured a lot if time and love into the project, and simply asked what we could agree on to change to let us continue working on the project worry free of litigation. Todd replied that honestly everything else was fine, it was pretty much just the name "Quake Source" that Id's legal team had an issue with. To confirm I asked if I simply changed the name that we could continue, he reciprocated that confirmation and we agreed to change the name to "EdgeDM" which was in honor of the name of our favorite Quake2 map and we were allowed to progress. The mod never came out because my team got spooked and started ghosting, taking their assets developed with them. But at least I got to experience what it was like to work with someone on an identity copyright issue and came out the other end of it just fine. There are cool companies out there who just want to make sure their brand is protected but are willing to compromise with fans.

[@mrmakemsayoow4722]

THAT MY FIREND IS WHAT HAPPEN IN YOUR CASE SEEN AS YOU HAD ACTUAL POTENTIAL OF LEGALLY BUILDING A SEVER AND CHARGING FOR SIGN UPS, TRADEMARKING AND BRANDING A NAME AND BUSINESS IN THE PURSUIT OF PROFIT. B IS FOR BUILD DIDNT HAVE A CHANCE IN HELL OF COPYWRITING THAT NAME. Y GUY, HE SOLD THAT CAR. BELIEVE ME. AS YOU SHOULD HAVE PUT THAT MOD BEHIND A PAY WALL.

[@blackheart1842]

Taking the car is going too far , if they want to protect their stupid name they could’ve just asked to change the car’s name and be done with it.

[@willstikken5619]

Definitely. I wonder what the justification was given the significant variation from Elanor and the unfinished status of the car.

[@christiandemarcus2257]

Honestly

[@phant0]

That's what a judge who actually cares about justice would have ordered to happen. IMO what they did was downright legalized theft.

[@ninobatista]

100%. Taking the car is a dick move, without a doubt. Everything else is annoying but if they didn't take the car I wouldn't be "fuck them". As it happens, I am "fuck them".

[@CephalonLux]

Blame Disney, they are a money cow worse than Bezos and it’s their cancerous lobbying that has made these laws change to their current state. I would happily trade not seeing Disney IP again if their influence was reverted.

[@jacksonyu6065]

I'm gonna name my depression "Eleanor" and maybe LLC will take it away

[@nottodaybuddy370]

Every dump I take is named Eleanor. Let's see them come and clean up that messy situation.

[@eckpyrosis7232]

Big brain moment

[@coopermartin5112]

Smart

[@MainMite06]

Eleanor LLC is a business that sells shame, not cars!

[@axpect8983]

Looks like Donut Media is gonna get sued for saying ‘mustang’ and ‘eleanor’ in the same video

[@simpleinverso8628]

I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to sue them

[@Heyitsallgoodman]

It's in the context of a review they should be fine

[@puddyslayer4458]

Hey

[@the_one_titan3381]

They also sued Shelby And they used a GT500 in the movie And Shelby made the GT500

[@mynamedoesntmatter9013]

Dangit! They took KZbin!

[@Dancing_Alone_wRentals]

Here we are a few years later. I hope it worked out well for B is for Build. I kept true to my word, I've not watched or touched anything to do with Gone via Lawsuit Seconds since.

[@Chance21]

Imagine if Ford sued Eleanor for harming their brand image

[@oscarwalton1188]

They probably could

[@TheRenofox]

@@oscarwalton1188 And they definitely should. I don't believe it's good for the sales when people who'd want their cars the most are now also the most likely to lose them.

[@Freezeron]

Yeah but... What the heck do they get the property of someone. That's just a dick move made for profit in a corporate world with dickheads law power makers. They sent the cease and desist, which should be enough. So they could let it slide and ask for an official excuse from the channel which made the videos with the official reason of which the videos were down once and for all or ask a license fee to continue the project.

[@ulfhedinn6]

@@TheFakeNewsFrog well they can suck a fat one

[@TheFakeNewsFrog]

Στέφανος Κάνδιας - I’m assuming with the cease and desist, they’d of been asked to change the name. If they refuse to change the name, that would give Eleanor Licensing LLC grounds to cease the property. To me, they wanted this whole thing to blow up like it has. Look at the amount of information omitted from this video... This is clearly just a hit piece on Eleanor Licensing LLC for KZbin clout... That’s all.

[@Fastfordsandlodedguns]

This company sounds like a bunch of do nothing no bodys that have nothing better to do than to waste air

[@minnesotaman3]

So i guess they're the umg of the car community

[@Mineirovsky]

There are a lot of cases similiar to this one.

[@knight838_]

Its one woman that makes this problem. She chased away a lot of people from the series over time.

[@neoc03]

@@knight838_ a garbage person leveraging a garbage law.

[@InHerMajestiesDefense]

agreed.

[@elijahfjerkenstad4422]

It’s like the LLC is the Karen’s of car names😂

[@mateolimbo3826]

So true

[@superbirdgaming7289]

True da...

[@tekdaystar345]

You know an LLC is a Limited Liability Corporation. This doesn't really work if you know what an LLC actually is.

[@boaz3081]

@@tekdaystar345 why?

[@gth77s]

@@tekdaystar345 can you shut up please

[@leegoddard2618]

Dec. 2022 Just saw that Carroll Shelby corp. Just sued the lady that owned the rights to Eleanor and got the banning stopped. 👍

[@ZekeGraal]

Recommended watch: Tom Scott’s video called “KZbin’s copyright system isn’t broken, the world’s Is”

[@keheaven]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3vaoGinmJxrh7c Here is said Tom Scott video.

[@brickson98m]

Tom Scott has tons of great videos. I remember watching this one.

[@cthulu10000]

Cgp grey has a good one too kzbin.info/www/bejne/qpybZ2V4l8-KrpY

[@f1y7rap]

I understand Tom's argument, and its well argued, but he's incorrect. BOTH YT & the world's system is broken. Since YT is based on and grown out of the existing global copyright rules

[@brickson98m]

f1y7rap That’s the point.... KZbin’s copyright system isn’t broken if you consider it in comparison to the world’s copyright laws. He’s not saying it’s not broken compared to a perfect system, he’s simply saying it’s no more broken than the world’s copyright system.

[@peccatumDei]

I can ALMOST understand wanting the videos taken down, but I absolutely CANNOT understand the seizure of the car itself.

[@markthompson4225]

I don’t know how that could be legal... it was only a name given to a project nothing else... that was the only thing that was theirs...

[@peccatumDei]

@@markthompson4225 Exactly. Just call the car something else.

[@markthompson4225]

I still can’t wrap my head the seizure of the vehicle... taking of someone else’s property just because of a spoken name... and they say copyright is fair! I hope they were reimbursed for the cost of the parts they had into it

[@thebatman3689]

Same

[@AdultsAreTalking]

Exactly! Why can't he just go back to calling it a Mustang..? WHICH IT IS!!!!

[@oriongear2499]

Me: Decides to name my cat “Eleanor” Eleanor LLC: Your cat’s free trial of existence has expired.

[@ronaele33]

I crapped one of the biggest logs ever last week and named it Halicki

[@justadummy8076]

What if you own an actual Mustang horse named Eleanor?

[@oriongear2499]

@@justadummy8076 He’d probably be put down by Eleanor LLC.

[@Josh-jw3go]

No not my cat!

[@RIPzippyshare]

@@justadummy8076 nahhh it aint a car

[@hendriixx.7469]

the Shelby Estate finally got the copyright lifted 🎉

[@Tommy-gk6bh]

I’m worried that these guys are gonna come after Nolan because he used “Eleanor” and “mustang” in the same sentence.

[@EdwinCristobal]

*6 hours later* :/

[@spacepunk411]

So did you...you're going down, bud.

[@jerometaylor2019]

spacepunk he’s screwed, he should run

[@FloreFaune]

Genuinely nervous

[@jerometaylor2019]

Camden Bradshaw lol

[@deabreu.tattoo]

"I don't mean do demonize Eleanor LLC, they're doing it fine by themselves"

[@678friedbed]

Yep, lawsuits like that have proven time and time again that it destroys the value of their company and product. Companies have gone bankrupt trying to defend their copyrights.

[@cajunroadwarrior]

At least they can't sue my nephew for naming his daughter Eleanor. And he also named his son Ford. Eleanor LLC sucks ass.

[@raulnieves2098]

Steam boat willie was likeley renewed since Lego came out with a Disney Steam Boat Willie set about a year ago.

[@CrossedCollar]

Slap a Hellcat engine in it and call it “Hellanor” problem solved! Lol.

[@literally.skill.issued]

lmao

[@jeepkid8068]

Do you really think they'll really care ?

[@TheGman0808]

Perfect fix

[@CrossedCollar]

Idk I don’t even remember writing this comment 🤷‍♂️

[@totes1378]

Yes bro

[@SuperCrabbycrab]

Love to see this on Legal Eagle to know more about this kind of case.

[@epwlod777]

Rekieta law would do a much more sincere and blunt breakdown with no punches pulled. Most probably hilariously offending everyone in the process

[@hands-ongaming7180]

Doesn't matter, the law is fucked .

[@krotchlickmeugh627]

Anything on legal eagle that you learn will be wrong and the time wasted.

[@Kreeber]

There was a company called “Ronaele” that was building replicas after the Nick Cage movie. It’s Eleanor spelled backwards. I also have hatred for what Disney is doing. Especially after building their empire on public domain folk tales.

[@theenzoferrari458]

Don't forget they are a anti Semitic nazi sympathizer that employs a SJW named brie larson and they fire people over old tweets. Lmao. Pathetic company.

[@tony_5156]

Darth Giggity holes is a great Disney movie man!

[@arthurpopovich6926]

Lord Mahaveer Maldonado well you can’t really choose your gender...

[@jsn1252]

@Lord Mahaveer Maldonado _Suuure,_ mentally healthy adults are _totally_ afraid of something that doesn't exist and don't just condemn the normalization of mental illness. And Elvis is alive and well on the moon, where he runs a very successful mining business to supply the lizard men's insatiable hunger for cheese.

[@rickywaterman1963]

@@jsn1252 but what is the lizard peoples fav cheese?

[@felixcv1462]

Someone : names his daughter Eleanor Eleanor Licensing : So you have chosen death...

[@Lewis-jt9cq]

Hippity hoppity your daughter is now my property

[@felixcv1462]

Lewis _ this is actually better 👍🏼

[@Chaos-bq5zx]

So you have chosen children trafficking

[@reversehappy9210]

@@felixcv1462 FBI OPEN UP!!!

[@GladeAir-Freshener]

the dislikes are from Eleanor Licensing LLC’s employees.

[@adamn5803]

Not from people disagreeing with “KZbin’s most exciting project car” ?

[@TristynRusselo]

there is only 1 person involved in the LLC.

[@cooperquinn8897]

Lmao 🤣

[@bobroberts2371]

If a copyright holder does not defend their copyright at all times, eventually they will lose the copyright. Person A slightly infringes on a copy right but the holder does nothing, person B infringes slightly more and so on down the line. The copy right holder then goes after person K for infringement. Person K says, hey you didn't go after people A to J. Court says we agree and the holder has now lost their copyright.

[@jkrause7413]

Be careful, the might take away your comment!

[@mangerdanger8572]

NOW YOU CAN START THE PROJECT AGAIN!!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D::D:D

[@jjlegend3922]

I kinda think Nolan should have a conspiracy channel. Called "Carspiracy" He could go over scandles, and other conspiracies within the automotive industry. He seems to enjoy getting off track and talking about his own theories lol I love that

[@TheJtberbrick]

Absolutely. Even covering the obvious ones would be alright

[@Suspicious0ne]

Might burn some bridges...

[@bosch_doc]

Every week he’d look more and more crazy and his hair is gonna get greasier next thing you know he’s wearing a tinfoil hat lmfao

[@CarcassGrater]

*i think you're onto somethin*

[@welovethesky8129]

Good idea

[@Epok97]

There are kits to make mustangs look like “Eleanor” but none of them are called “Eleanor” . For example, there is the Ronaele (read it backwards) and Cervinis C 500.

[@masteronesolo4615]

That's freaking awesome

[@waelcartech]

Or Elinoor 😁

[@MaverickWindsor351]

Funny you say that, I had a 2006 Mustang I wanted to put a C series body kit on, and I almost named the car Eleanor, but decided against it in favor of Bullitt, even though it was far from being anything close (mechanically) to the Bullitt special edition Mustangs

[@jcdied8746]

Eleanor licensing llc: takes away Eleanors and store them. People named Eleanor watching this video: *chuckles* I’m in danger

[@Jonny2by4]

Only if those people are also mustangs!

[@alexgeisel2581]

That's what happened to my aunt. Haven't seen her in 20 years.

[@tomjoad1363]

How can they take away cars that are not even finished?

[@DavidGonzalez-rl8up]

They changed the law, hopefully B is for build can get it back!

[@hunterwatkins9858]

Imagine a cosplayer getting sued because they dressed up as a character.

[@guard13007]

And then enslaved.

[@I_like_turtles_67]

Females can get away with it.

[@GiordanDiodato]

*Toei Animation has entered the chat*

[@MrTenor-ch5gs]

Or someone getting Sued for making an unboxing video because someone else already had

[@MrTenor-ch5gs]

@@I_like_turtles_67 that is both incorrect and sexist

[@raaedamhar4175]

Ugh, that's just dumb, suing someone over giving their mustang a certain name

[@TechnoVault67]

... and taking their car away

[@raaedamhar4175]

@Federal Bureau of Investigation that would be some messed up sh1t

[@RockinTheDub]

It’s so petty

[@89ludeawakening1]

Chris should've just changed the name of the car and taken all the videos down. It's not like the car's name was Eleanor legally. So if you say it's name is Beatrice, it's now Beatrice and no longer Eleanor.

[@doriancahill7452]

I agree

[@joshloyd4794]

Just to rub it in there face I would build another one and name it “NOT ELEANOR”

[@jilpoke]

"ELEANOT"

[@StefanMArndt]

Or just call it Ellen.

[@ja60123]

ELunORE

[@DaroriDerEinzige]

Just start to built "The most ugly thing ever" under the name "Project: Must4ng Elenor". Then they should get every week a notice, but if you ... Idk, rebuilt a Fiat Engine in a Horse themed Bus, they probaly can't do ... Horse shit... hihi. Or just do the same in a different Country. I doubt they could take your car away from you if you sittin' in Russia or in the EU.

[@dapperAaron]

They can also make another one, and not record it or tell anybody about it. Just drive around and enjoy it and make sure to store it in a storage.

[@GRXMES]

My friend has a Jurassic Park jeep but luckily he’s in a club that works with Universal Studios, so he can’t get copyrighted.

[@BRKsEDU]

A big corp abusing copyright law? **surprised pikachu face**

[@CarlosAlberto-qp9uy]

Edu????? Não acredito, até você aqui

[@lucas.ximbas7926]

Neeeem fudeno kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

[@MatheusMelo19]

Edu aqui tbm hahaha

[@humveeRN]

hora de alguém dar uma surra de pau mole nesses corporativos!!

[@CroxVision]

BRKsEDU já era seu fã antes, agora mais ainda hahahahaha

[@nickdavis642]

So what was the legality behind actually seizing his property couldn’t he have just simply changed the name and kept the car

[@JeffLocke1]

I was wondering the same thing. Seems like a d1ck head move just because they can...

[@JeffLocke1]

@@DrTeeth609 I bet one of the execs is driving it around with a douchey smirk.

[@cargasm383]

My guess is it was part of the settlement they agreed on. probably sued for every penny he made off the youtube videos and prevented him from making any more profit off the build, which would also mean he can't sell it, even for parts. So instead of being stuck with a pile of metal he can't make any money off of. He probably agreed to give them the car as part of the money he owed them. If your building cars for youtube views why finish building a car you cant profit off of when you can give it away to settle the debt then build another mustang you can make money off of.

[@robertfullard5646]

@@DrTeeth609 The car wasn't finished, not even close and it wasn't going to be even close to the same colour as the movie car. Plus the movie car was 67 through and through Chris' car was 2015 mustang with a body swap. Any sane person could see that they could scarcely be more different but reality and law are not good bedfellows.

[@nickdavis642]

cargasm383 I could see it being a part of a settlement agreement still sucks though that would’ve been a cool build

[@Junkyard_Dave]

My next project the ELEwhore build

[@jakehennessy7]

I'm proud to be a subscriber of yours just for that lol. Do it. . Frankly you got me over with the P2R love on your channel, gotta love the V70R and S60R. Oddball cars with an interesting feel

[@Wacksmacked8898]

I subbed for that. that was fucken great

[@shanetrogdon9549]

Make it a Camaro lol

[@caitlinleanna5028]

I was thinking elenwhore

[@mattsch6646]

I was about to say that then saw the top comment lol

[@inatra3853]

i love how donut doesnt just tell the story they go deeper and beyond

[@erockhikes8515]

Eleanor licensing llc took his car instead of just telling him to change or rename the car.The fact that they wouldn't work with him at all is unacceptable.

[@NovaZocket52]

Chris himself said that working with Eleanor license was one of his worst experiences

[@seanissomething]

Yeah, that, to me, is what is the most f***ed-up thing. Like if you're just trying to protect your "intellectual property", just get the guy to rename it and paint it a different colour. Problem solved. But they're doing it to try to make money by bleeding these poor car builders and (ex) fans of the movie dry and STEALING THEIR FREAKIN CARS!! Like how is that even remotely fair?

[@DriverDGaming]

Actually contrary to popular belief, B is for build was reimbursed for the car. (Not to the full extent I'm sure) but it was enough for him to give up and move on.

[@Shveet]

@@seanissomething here is the thing. it was going to be a different colour, far different from the original screen play. his intention was to build the mustang, but still make it his own by having an alternate colour, one that he wanted to have.

[@robertfullard5646]

@@DriverDGaming where did you hear this? I have been following the whole story and have not heard this before.

[@cartunerph4827]

Warner Bros: Hey prop guys help us build the original Batmobile. Everyone: no

[@motormind2]

Eleanor LLC: Give us the car Chris: Sure, let me just remove the engine, suspension, tires, steering wheel, body panels, and headlights

[@keithmcdonnell4485]

Yeah, in the lawsuit they have to identify the car in some way... if they use the vin number then give them the body shell that vin number is associated with and nothing else. The problem is they probably seized the car without notice making this strategy impossible.

[@nielstielemans152]

Its crazy how all of a sudden your hard worked on project car can be taken away. Just like that, gone in like... a minute?

[@Dave_Boyer]

I still can’t believe they took the car...she’s just money hungry, it’s a good way to alienate your fan base.

[@123nlusky]

Yeh exactly, I thought the body styling made the car an Eleanor, they don’t own the rights to the chassis or running gear etc.....

[@yunggolem4687]

Absolutely no way TAKING THE PHYSICAL CAR was legal, even in the joke of a legal system we have.

[@sthavoc8]

Sound like theft, call the cops

[@campkira]

they did licensee it out for limited production.. just change abit fool...

[@angelainamarie9656]

I don't know how it's helped them make more money, it's a really weird thing to do. Are they making sequels or something?

[@tanishqmalhotra8530]

Man this copyright shot sucks. Look at a company like Lyken. They infact they are helping Vinviki's Lyken hypersport rebuild

[@turbo_alice]

agreee, except it's not vinwiki's lykan. it's genius garages one

[@smokingtires9716]

It’s genius garage btw not vinwiki

[@awallforada8320]

You mean Genius Garage with Casey Putsche who just so happens to feature on Vinwiki sometimes. A little clarification for those looking for his channel and to see the build

[@jivvr]

Isn't Lyken a sub-company of the company that makes W engines?

[@scottcol23]

@@jivvr the Lyken Hyper Sport was a model made by W Motors.

[@awangkunurdanialfarhanbina9063]

imagine you named your daughter “eleanor” and they just took her from you

[@thesciencesphere4273]

Sounds like something Eleanor LLC would do

[@simplybloxxed]

@@thesciencesphere4273 I mean, they probably already have.

[@htc007898]

My daughter is almost three, and is an infernal menace with the grip strength of an ape and a propensity for dislocating people's fingers. I figure they'd bring her back pretty quickly and grant her the right to call any damned thing she wanted "Eleanor" so long as she never visited them again. She is a monster and we're very proud.

[@idgeek]

no can do. they didnt copyright the name "Eleanor" . Google "apple records vs apple"

[@lukewarren9593]

It depends on if she identifies as a Mustang, then she is all theirs.

[@carlosencarnacion9667]

Please don't tell these people in Eleanor that there is an Eleanor Roosevelt avenue in Puerto Rico, they might want to expropriate or confiscate it, then put toll stations, and charge for the use of something they did NOT build, or fund...

[@BloodRaven1969]

Kinda like Foose built a 67 Mustang fastback into a 67 Shelby 500 custom for a movie that stared Nicholas Cage? Something like that?

[@MyNameisStorm]

They just need to do another build and call it the “Eleanope”

[@DeezTuck78]

Haha or Eleanot!

[@HemiG1]

Eleanorn't. It's not legit, but it fits the best

[@sespider]

They literally only need to change the spelling of "Eleanor" but keep how it's pronounced. Easy loophole.

[@HemiG1]

@@sespider Ion Maiden didn't got away from Iron Maiden, so I guess simple misspelling would not be enough. My last suggestion - Ford "Definetly Not E-nor, trust me, I'm a dolphin"

[@predater5017]

they should call it "fuck Eleanor licensing llc"

[@nojawns5909]

imagine Disney own the rights to Hakuna Matata. A phrase that was used in east Africa for hundreds of years before Disney

[@thesciencesphere4273]

Excuse me sir but that phrase you're saying in a language your country has been speaking for over a century belongs to us because copyright so please un-say it and give us money thank you goodbye.

[@thomasa5619]

Pretty sure they could make that claim in the context of a cartoon musical about African animals and win You can’t own the word, but you can own the context

[@anansiackhasone3428]

@@thesciencesphere4273 lol

[@richardbaker9196]

@@thesciencesphere4273 lhjkdrd05oty

[@parisjesuis01]

Insane that they took the car and have a history of doing so. That takes this from copyright protection to legally "justified" GTA... Typical corrupt BS

[@Dayrahl]

justice in "America"

[@fallencommaner]

Image LETTING a bunch of lawyers not only take down your videos but your whole ass car because some suit pissed his pants lol

[@alejandrohernandez8867]

ME: *names my daughter Eleanor.* Eleanor company: *sews me and takes my daughter.*

[@sathirafernando6036]

sue*

[@arawaaronsalvatin6164]

Or better I will find a wife named Eleanor and when she starts nagging, then call Eleanor llc 😁😁😁😁

[@jamesstorm2989]

The rate they going at they just might

[@vladivosdog]

@@sathirafernando6036 no

[@BuckStrickland]

@@sathirafernando6036 sues**

[@pchurch4973]

So when I take a Shelby cobra without paying for it it’s called “grand theft auto” and comes with “15 years in prison” yet when they do it they “have grounds to take it”

[@eporter5071]

Yeah I'm angry for B is for Build. Like how the hell can you just take their property?

[@rosstulloch8100]

@@eporter5071 That's the real issue. I understand taking down the videos and stopping the build, but taking the car was just evil.

[@bosknight7837]

Ross Tulloch that’s the point of the company tho. They never produced or even did anything but sue people over this weird license they somehow got ahold of.

[@ChrsGuit]

@@eporter5071 I would be betting this wouldn't happen in certain rural areas of the country...

[@thejkyle]

Typical big corp sticking it to the “little guy” just because they can. Guy wasn’t hurting anybody he was just doing what he loves.

[@ilovekitkat7857]

Ad revenue off KZbin.

[@jackpettit7137]

I Love KitKat A few hundred dollars of ad revenue for Eleanor llc shouldn’t even be worth it

[@nathan1sixteen]

He was probably helping the movie out, as before that build, I had never heard of "Gone in 60 Seconds" and was actually planning on watching the movie. Now, since they were giant AssHoles, that's not gonna happen anymore

[@gumball2960]

@@nathan1sixteen rip, just go watch it when you feel like it

[@0xsergy]

@@ilovekitkat7857 the amount they spent on seizing the car far outweighs the 200 bucks he made on ads.

[@iuploadrandomthings7783]

3rd movie this dude described made me instantly feel old as that was one of my most fav childhood movies ever. I even loved and i mean LOVED the intro to the movie

[@vsho]

Still boycotting anything Eleanor related, what happened to Chris was disrespectful!

[@robertanderson7784]

How was he being disrespectful fill me in on the back story

[@jjdrfc1185]

Robert Anderson “what happened to Chris was disrespectful”

[@carlo6870]

@@robertanderson7784 Your reading comprehension is akin to a nut.

[@stevenplaskett7728]

No it was not what he did was disrespectful to the original elanore creator by just assuming he could use the name without permission.

[@bongwater2290]

Steven Plaskett are you fucking slow in the head? What average person thinks to their self that a car is a full blown movie character legally? Not to mention gone in 60 seconds, both of them, used a pre existing car made by Ford. Also they sued, and won, against Carol Shelby. Are you going to call him disrespectful also? The name Eleanor existed before the movie. The GT500 existed before the movie. If anything, B is for Build was attempting to show APPRECIATION for the movie and the ‘character’ car.

[@jeffhardyhotmail]

They should change the «Eleanor licensing llc» to “Karen licensing llc”

[@youraveragejdmenthusiast430]

Karen took the car

[@jeffhardyhotmail]

Your average jdm enthusiast 😂😂😂

[@TomTom-tp3qc]

Kancel Kulture LLC.

[@nutzeeer]

but they cant just cease women!

[@randalllawkin]

@@nutzeeer yeah they do they sell them on the black market.... Human trafficking

[@tannerwilliams5859]

i get like being “hey don’t have that name” but i don’t understand the right to seize his property and all the money he put into the car

[@alecb8509]

I think the biggest issue was broadcasting the entire build. Had he built it quietly in his garage, I bet nothing would have come of it.

[@blackcountryme]

@@alecb8509 yeah but that doesn't take away they are taking his property, it's not theirs, this isn't Ford, even then you own the car not the company who made it (it's not software!!)

[@Maconyoutube]

Seizing the car was most likely the agreed upon recompense instead of taking all of the ad revenue from the videos, which was probably already reinvested in the build anyway. The issue is not that the car was simply called Eleanor. They directly copied the design, naming, and heavily referred to the original movie in the videos. They then proceeded to use the aforementioned IP to create revenue via adsense and merch. This is no different than if they had made an Eleanor toy, and tried to sell it online. They were sued because Eleanor licensing sell licenses (duh) to companies to produce these products and had they not enforced this case it would have nullified the contracts they had with approved replica shops, who pay through the nose for exclusivity contracts (so they can charge you 200k for a car that cost 60k to make). Had the videos not been monetised - they would have most likely been allowed to continue as so many fan projects do.

[@bragr_]

Lawrence is probably right. They probably agreed (under duress) to turn it over to settle the legal dispute. They probably feel railroaded so I understand why they might say it was seized.

[@Maconyoutube]

Lassi Kinnunen they had them bang to rights, they committed blatant IP theft, intentionally or otherwise, with the intent of generating revenue. 5 minutes on a conference call with the Eleanor co would have had Chris and co up against the wall agreeing to whatever to avoid a bloodbath in the courtroom.

[@joshuanunn9080]

To add on to the Back to the future time machine. Universal Studios asked via social media people who took parts off the original Delorean to return them to help restore it.

[@MrRobschnieder]

On their website it literally brags about all the law suits they have won suing people over the eleanor look. Trash ass company and i wish there was something we could do to pester them. Like calling them over and over to pretend to want to order a car with no intention of every buying one. Actually just checked the website and it looks like they have removed the part about their previous lawsuits, assuming changing it after all the hate they have gotten following the B Is For Build drama.

[@bobroberts2371]

If a copyright holder does not defend their copyright at all times, eventually they will lose the copyright. Person A slightly infringes on a copy right but the holder does nothing, person B infringes slightly more and so on down the line. The copy right holder then goes after person K for infringement. Person K says, hey you didn't go after people A to J. Court says we agree and the holder has now lost their copyright.

[@Creeperownr]

@@bobroberts2371 Could they not have sent a Cease & Desist or something of the likes? Or was it, as Nolan said, that they rely on the money from the lawsuits to survive.

[@grantdavis5627]

That wouldn't pester the company, just the frontline employees who did nothing wrong.

[@kuebby]

You could burn down their warehouse...

[@vulpinemachine]

Where's the website, I can't find it.

[@edg807]

I got a 30 year old trailer in the backyard infested with rats that I need to get rid of. If I name it Eleanor, you think they’ll haul it away??

[@benonihiggins8204]

If you record the “restoration” and put it on KZbin I think they just might. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@marvelseancahya2183]

If you ever rec the "restoration" pls do reply this comment, i Genuinely want to see it, just for a good laugh

[@sirbenjaminarthuriv4019]

you gotta somehow convince them it's a mustang

[@thinminted]

@@sirbenjaminarthuriv4019 replica mustang engine that doesnt work, should do the trick

[@wccrispy]

Please try. Please please please!

[@dalaanibombina8822]

They didn’t need to take the car - they could’ve had him simply change the name (even if they had the videos where the name is mentioned removed as well). Taking the car just makes them assholes.

[@vulpinemachine]

And it means that they just lost all support from future buyers. Will I EVER buy anything related to Eleanor now? ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOT. This was definitely the wrong play on their part.

[@AX-xi2pw]

​@@vulpinemachine What I find absolutely disgusting is how they can claim a name that is over 1000 years old to be their own property, and continue to heartlessly steal someones car they've put a lot of love and soul into. These trashcan human beings will rot in hell.

[@Peterowsky]

@@vulpinemachine It's not like they're selling merch to begin with (though other people are), and being honest the pool of people who would spend money on licensed, official Eleanor merch is limited.

[@vulpinemachine]

@@Peterowsky not wrong.

[@jonlemon6363]

It was gone in 60 seconds

[@kameronmyles2013]

*Someone names their child Eleanor* Ford: Hahahha, a new, life long worker! Oh, you dont want to work here? We own you

[@buddylee19082]

Just imagine ALL of the free marketing that Universal got from ALL of the Delorean/TimeMachine replicas by NOT suing their builders!? Imagine how many people/kids went out and watched Back to the Future for the first time because they saw one on display or driving down the street somewhere! Shout out Universal for not being greed mongers and playing the long game on this one.

[@Sythorize]

Well she doesn’t get money for the movie so why would she care about publicity 🤣

[@quinnallen3195]

Actually DMC was reacently bought out and have been restoring and making new Deloreans

[@CaptainScarlet1961]

I worked in the factory in the UK that pressed the panels for DeLoreans....

[@Ob1tuber]

They recently did a collab with hasbro to make a transformer which is just cool

[@victoracosta4796]

I saw one in Long Island.

[@musicfanatic2002]

Could they just say "Nah, we changed the name of the car. It's now called 'Steve'. You can't have it."

[@AbdulBasit-zk6he]

Lol

[@theguildwars2fanatic]

@Adrian Vegas Steve the Stang

[@poodn4559]

The Steve Stang

[@spicytortilla2239]

When your husband dies because he can’t do basic engineering and add a safety factor to the cables holding a water tower so you go around taking peoples cars

[@DragoserakerIT]

water way to go...

[@collinkuhn2139]

DragoserakerIT bruh

[@joeyg29jgjg]

@@DragoserakerIT bruh

[@77knives]

@@DragoserakerIT bruh

[@FurryWrecker911]

@@DragoserakerIT Take my upvote and get out.

[@traun17]

Me: casually names my dog Eleanor Eleanor licensing LLC: Am I a joke to you?

[@whoisfluffy3476]

Soo does this mean that anyone named Eleanor is infringing copyright?

[@jsclar]

My cat’s name is Eleanor, should I be worried about her infringing copyright?

[@jack_1126]

i think yes 😔 NOOOOOO MUSTANG NOOOOO

[@andreaskvisler]

jacob sclar if your cat is a mustang, sadly Yes

[@silentsamuel_]

No. It's specific to the movies/the car specifically as Eleanor is specifically the car used and referred to as Eleanor. The name in itself isn't copyright, it only comes into play if you specifically use a Mustang as that's the model used both times for movie and technically a character. It's a bit of a tricky path to walk to figure out.

[@blackcountryme]

@Federal Bureau of Investigation so you're finished in 60 seconds?

[@notmenotme614]

If a company can legally take your car off you, it shows how a legal system is an absolute joke. Theres no fair justice, the winner is who can afford the most legal costs.

[@mrt1r]

And this is why Back to the Future is iconic and Gone in 60 Seconds is a footnote in Nicholas Cage's career.

[@Niviso]

I’m sure it has nothing to do with that, the movie was simply bad.

[@shaneharrisnj3484]

@@Niviso Hold it! The movie was really good for a film from Touchstone and it has some great Special Effects for a film from 2000.

[@notorioustori]

Let's be honest, if not for Angelina Jolie, exponentially less people would've watched it.

[@smazz3411]

@@shaneharrisnj3484 look lets face it the movie was bad

[@kylecallahan5770]

Roasted

[@scottsatterthwaite4073]

This is an example of a company who's sole existence is based upon copyright lawsuits. The SCOTUS has made more recent rulings, delegitimizing some such companies or at least their business practices.

[@bryan50rogers]

My next door neighbor has a Honda with a fart can that he calls Eleanor...Let them know so they can come take it.

[@Petergriffinfortniteballs]

Bryan Rogers Nice One lmaooo

[@trkav]

YES Rid the streets of those abominations!

[@sddragon28]

It has to be a Mustang named Eleanor, to be copyrighted as a character. So unless he owns the unheard of Honda Mustang. I don’t think it’ll work for ya, but maybe a few Ford badges would fool em. XD

[@bobroberts2371]

B build guy is profiting from a copyrighted work, that is far different than someone building a rep for their own use. Same goes for patents, you can make a patented item for personal use but not sell it.

[@shawntallman1310]

Bob Roberts he's not profiting from a copyrighted works, he was profiting from the work he put into the car not the name, he could have called the car bob and still made the same amount of money.

[@shermancorbello9318]

From now on every time I see gone in 60 seconds, I’ll just be thinking of how petty Eleanor llc was. To take the car? 🙄

[@Interloper_Jay]

I'm looking at my mini Eleanor from loot box, crying.

[@_Par1ah]

Agreed, kinda sours an otherwise amazing car legacy. Definitely won't buy anything with the name on it to support the greed

[@oriongear2499]

@@_Par1ah Yeah same.

[@RECTALBURRITO]

I want the watch

[@hakui7531]

Eleanor licensing LLC: you named your child Eleanor? Newborn's father: yes Eleanor licensing LLC: it's mine now

[@thomasthepaladin103]

There's the comment I was looking for lol

[@NightHawk8667]

It's free real-estate

[@kevinknight2795]

I’d love to hear your take on Knight Rider’s KITT being both an actual character, but also being a Trans Am, referred to as both a trans am as a Pontiac in the show, as well as KITT and the Knight 2000 vehicle.

[@nooranik21]

This is like Marvel confiscating a cos play at comic con. What a load of BS.

[@rosstulloch8100]

They would if you started selling costumes without permission.

[@SmokeyOwOs]

Reminder Disney told a family they couldn't get a casket for their child if it had Spiderman on it, because they didn't want their character to be associated with death. You know, the character who's main story is his uncle fucking *died*

[@SoundsLikeOdie]

Since they did this, I can't look at any Eleanor now without having a negative feeling. It's no longer a car I desire. I'm strange like that.

[@GuitairistDaniel]

I was interested in re-watching the movie. I don't even want to watch the movie now. 'Cause that's how free promotion works.

[@bradyhill2136]

I feel the exact same way dude. I remember watching the movie and buying a poster of the car and when all this happened I dropped it entirely

[@mikehansen9898]

This car was a top three for me. Now, not so much.

[@jeffreysalzman1497]

Same

[@ItsRevival]

I'd rather have a Bullitt mustang, but this killed any desire I had for an Eleanor

[@5inarong]

They digging up Eleanor Roosevelt from her grave.

[@Scooteroy]

And suing the Beetles for Eleanor Rigby

[@MrMpm3001]

😂😂😂

[@rina5221]

Newborn girls named Eleanor are being taken away from their mothers right in the hospital, that's why the name is fading into obscurity

[@SKitty1732]

We going to ignore how Goodbye Eleanor from Toto can't be released anywhere?

[@shaneharrisnj3484]

@@Scooteroy and suing the estate of Eleanor Roosevelt....

[@DaimyoD0]

8:56 "...they fall more in love with that franchise." Speaking of falling in love, I think I have a crush on knee socks-Marty McFly.

[@NaseIV]

When George Lucas sold Lucas Films to Disney he wrote into the contract that all fan art is still protected and they can’t go after anyone

[@pepperjack641]

If that really is true I forgive him for Jar Jar Binks

[@outdoorsfishingdream]

Pepper Jack they really did, George even personally protected a fan movie in youtube, go check it out

[@predater5017]

@@pepperjack641 its gonna take more than that

[@Snadzies]

@@predater5017 Or, you could demonetize yourself and save the human race from being corrupted by your garbage genes.

[@blammers]

Wow, I didn’t know that! Thanks, George!

[@hammertail6187]

That’s honestly truly immature that companies are doing this for money as it makes people instead of falling in love with your product to be repelled by it. This is truly ridiculous how copyright is abused and stretched so far.

[@TorenoSianturi]

dude, they're just douchebags in a suit that said the nsx is a ferrari

[@jsbelanger1701]

That's the big issue here. The company isn't making any money from this. They are just getting the car community to hate them.

[@JMNTN]

The patent business is even worse. There are people who just buy patents to then search for businesses who infringe on it to sue them, it’s called ‘patent troll’. This actually is a big problem that costs companies combined billions of dollars each year. Apple recently had to pay 440 million dollar for something like this.

[@roquecruz3851]

They should call the stang “L.N.R.” To go around the sue lol

[@ur1loss1bro50]

You have a big Brain my guy Here 🙌🏽 👑

[@ZAH33D]

Underrated.

[@serfantastic8613]

Outstanding move

[@kianduesing]

BUT... maybe they will still sue them due to similarity of the sound of these...

[@DeathBringer769]

More like L. N. OR.

[@TheGeneral308]

Eleanor LLC: Give us your Elenore! Me: Oh that car it is named Bob.

[@jamesfactora6276]

Imagine owning a mustang with your wife named Eleanor and she passes away and you name your mustang to commemorate her and this random ass company finds out they come and take your car away

[@yoaiou]

No wife for you

[@Xepthys01]

thats a john wick scenario in the making then

[@0842]

Xepthys01 ill watch that sequel

[@peachu7]

@mike h you watched the video right? That's exactly what they do

[@tjm34]

Than I go to Jail

[@PulledPurk]

"How donut media destroyed the affordable used cool car market" I can't wait for that one

[@dracomenda2]

Between them and Scotty Kilmer I need a GoFundMe to afford a car that needs an engine

[@spacecowboy5995]

You and me both.

[@PulledPurk]

@@dracomenda2 remember when Craigslist would have a dozen 2nd gen eclipses for like 2500 bucks? Sc300? Sure have 2. 88 Supra? Take your pick. I paid 1200 for my 300zx a few years ago. Ran fine. No way today. All gone. Stay away from the Miatas you don't want one 😉😅😅

[@ogre350]

And also the cleetus tax on crown vics luckily i got mine right before his started trending

[@PulledPurk]

@@ogre350 I saw two detective crown vics online two days ago. 2009. 3k. Gone in a few minutes 🤣

[@outlaw832005]

Sounds like a niche market for giant ELEANOR windshield decals, with a small F**K Eleanor LLC at the end.

[@AJ-nh8ik]

thanks for the idea. i'm on it now. let me copyright this quickly so no1 else can do it for 90 years.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

😂 🤣 I doubt it would take off.

[@ltsgarage7780]

ricky v anymore driving a Mustang is pretty weird. So you know there is a market for this ELEANORE sticker

[@WarriorsPhoto]

LT's Garage 😂 🤣 You’re correct! (:

[@outlaw832005]

@Kevin C Detroit. I've got some dealerships to "vandalize"

[@SacGhostbusters]

Im so glad you mentioned Bob's Prop Shop: Video Bob is a recaster who takes other people's hard work, recasts it and sells it at a lower price and often times must lower quality which is why he isn't looked on too favorably not only in the BTTF community but also the Ghostbusters Community and RPF community. The Back to the Future community is mostly bout giving back to charities but Bob is purely bout profiting off of other people.

[@xgamer1518]

Nolan- says Eleanor Eleanor Licensing LLC- Time for another Lawsuit.

[@sanguinestroberry8455]

Remember: This wouldn't have happened if Disney, their goons, and their ill ilk hadn't raised the copyright deadline by decades. Edit: Ha I didn't even see the part about disney when I wrote this comment.

[@VincentGonzalezVeg]

Yes Disney is evil and a monopoly because there just bankrolling things Destroying things like star wars too This needs to be changed Tell young people about this so we can restore this So when we die the knolage isn't ignored I'm 21 I went to Disneyland as a part of a music thing Disneyland was supremely disappointing I threw away the pin after years because empy space was worth more to me

[@CamiM305]

Careful, y’all might be facing a lawsuit for having the word “Eleanor” in your video, hell I might even get a lawsuit for even mentioning the word.

[@EdwinCristobal]

[@EasyCarReviews]

Quickly edit the comment to El-Anor and you’ll be fine. Use the Chinese way of avoiding copyright.

[@SL_RivviN]

Eleanor!

[@MACcopsnK__Coronado]

And I might get copyright infringement for looking at this message. Guilty by association.

[@freeautoinsurance365]

one of the teachers at my school is named eleanor oh no

[@buildingahero9580]

Here in south of Brazil there's a company building Eleanors in fiberglass and the replicas are amazing., but Eleanor Licensing, LLC. probably won't sue them because of the necessary effort for this...

[@jf_paes1589]

When Nolan started talking about the Copyright expiration extentions, I was like "I bet it's Disney pulling that shit"

[@zachsilby4569]

Bruh why can't they just go "aye, change the name, ight?" And not "hippity hoppity, your car is now our property"

[@Sparkmovement]

That is my thought, like... where exactly is this car labeled that they can't change it? After getting that letter my ass would have walked into the garage to make a new video. Literally turn the lights on, "bitch, your called "That name I can't use"", end the video. Boom. I am just really confused because as far as I can tell.. it was just a nickname.

[@djak4803]

ima name a lambo adventador "Alan" then tell people to name their car that and then steal their car legally

[@russetwolf13]

Because copyright law is an insane bullshit money engine that absolutly fucking gargantuan companies lobby to keep it being insane bullshit. Consider Comcast and Verizon literally snuck a goddamn double agent into the FCC to get rid of net neutrality protections so they could keep their bullshit engine going. These people are actually insane.

[@Sparkmovement]

@@russetwolf13 You didn't answer my question tho, Where is Eleanor the actual name of this car? Besides a nickname, There is no official badging nor is that name located on any paperwork for it.

[@russetwolf13]

@@Sparkmovement There's video of him calling it that and he made money off the video, therefor it becomes intellectual property and thus he is infringing on their right to their intellectual property. Like I said, it's because american copyright law is an insane bullshit money machine. There was a lawsuit over something like a three or four note chord progression happening to be in another song. Which would be the musical equivalent of suing someone for stealing your novel because they used the word "gaslight" in their novel.

[@joeymccullough2716]

B is for Build should call the new notchback “Lenore”.

[@kaj750]

Common Sense: "Hey, B is for Build. Can you please change the name of your project?" Idiot judges and attorneys in this country: "SEIZE THAT CAR!". I hope nobody named their kid Eleanor. Am I going to be seized for typing "Eleanor"???? Crap....