Toyota JZ vs Chevy LS -- which engine is better?

[@mifiamigahna]

Hearing someone say "more power" without the "baby!" feels like being left hanging on a high-five.

[@rhinog7815]

brings a tear to my eye 😢

[@AJ-nh8ik]

actually, im ok with them not saying it. none of them bring the same energy needed to complete the statement. sometimes when the others say it, it almost feels like getting a loose, limp, sweaty handshake from a Texan. it just dont feel right.

[@hamish8150]

But wouldn't it be weird hearing someone else say it?

[@nooknooktyb4922]

Right

[@rs7xsketch336]

@@AJ-nh8ik well it's still lower the the MO POWAH! BABEH!

[@fatboysgarage7984]

Honestly, both engines are amazing. I think at the end of the day it all comes down to taste.

[@sandasturner9529]

Couldn't have worded it better...thanks

[@carloswirihana6724]

100%

[@justinburwell7288]

Truth

[@gregsierra3402]

Or money

[@teldrynsero6791]

Complete agreement. I prefer jz's but i understand that ls' have advantages over them.

[@HawkyStudying]

A beautiful quote for many occasions in life: "I'm not sure how well it would work, but it would fit"

[@mustang8206]

That's what I tell my Tinder dates

[@AJ-nh8ik]

@@mustang8206 perfect response, so much better than a "thats what she said"

[@JesusGomez-jz4yf]

I started watching this video as an LS guy, and nothing has changed

[@barebonesjones]

Ok.

[@isaiahsainz1040]

Ok.

[@gabedaxe477]

Same here but with the 2jZzz

[@theslashmanrc7503]

Ok.

[@isacvestergaard4271]

Ok

[@darkchild130]

"Waiting on import parts for weeks." *cries in uk LS owner*

[@mattevans4377]

At least you aren't part of the Ricer crowd. Those cars look like they drove through a Halfords.

[@LandonRoy-cv9rt]

An LS in the UK, you must dominate everyone around you 🤙

[@darkchild130]

@@LandonRoy-cv9rt Not really, there are some seriously fast cars over here, just not many V8s.

[@damndaniel7107]

@@LandonRoy-cv9rt yea dominating every gas pump in a mile radius

[@zachsteele6964]

@@damndaniel7107 lol

[@coldmoonlight6361]

17:07 That's some wicked tire wobble on that BMW

[@leonardovillarreal1066]

I'm from Colombia and I bougth an LS engine here in a junk yard. I usted in a project for a C-10 that usted to be a farm truck, from dyno, It made 275 hp, when I put it, I made a little adjustems to the timming, new headers, then wooww, that thing did 340 hp, easy win, I'm not done with this project but with all that coronavirus thing, I had to slow down and invest my money in priorities, but when this crap finally end, I'll finish this once and for all.

[@tribeofjudah9328]

Yo same situation fam got mine 5.3 swapped 😂

[@ripinpieces8387]

You should show it on a video.

[@miguelneto2927]

get your truck on bumber to bumber @dounutmedia

[@mattfrank7499]

Nice work

[@niko1600]

Surprised there's LSs in South America

[@Theotherdroidman]

See, y'all out here swapping engines, im living in 2050, i just swap the whole car around the engine

[@ls3_saif]

Camaro swapped 2jz

[@deejeh9494]

Ya'll lowering your engine into the car while the 2050 guys lowering their car onto the engine.

[@ajimit8669]

ha, noobs, y'all out here swapping engines, I'm living in 2069, I just swap 2JZ with LS, then swap it again with 2JZ

[@aluriam3002]

@@deejeh9494 Drag Racers were already doing that since years ago

[@Freak5thGen]

Genius

[@nboy7]

I love both these engines. Got an alloy LS1 5.7L myself, such a simple easy to understand engine and its been running for almost 20 years now and the most major thing ive had to do was change the water pump. Love the 2JZ too, but cars that came stock with them are far too expensive where I live. Ive been told to avoid the 1JZ due to some design flaws it has.

[@Kouzie28]

love my 1j even tho it came in my car id rather have it than a 2j or ls hasnt had any probs and makes such nice noises

[@nboy7]

@@Kouzie28 People keep telling me the 1JZ has oil burn problems, especially the earlier ones.

[@MrJimip69]

Dont forget lexus GS, IS, & LS 300 ALL HAVE 2JZ'S until they went v6 in 03 or something. Lexus = 'Merica

[@Kouzie28]

@@nboy7 oh yes that is true it does run rich i find myself topping off the oil sometimes before actually changing it but if thats the only flaw ill take it. its because as they say jz's like running rich its not bad tho however i have a jzx110 verossa so i have one of the very last 1jzs versions they made if not the last

[@rscervin9950]

I found some in my country. The most expensive one i found is around 27k € and it's still stock engine

[@isaaccastillo5098]

The next D-list should be on classic cars under 10k, love you James

[@namanakaskippy]

Isaac Castillo ik Some Alfa should be there, Probably the older Spider

[@snfriedm]

A bad condition 240z.

[@KuTheKhajiit]

First, and let's be honest. We just love the sound of the engine.

[@bredtbruh]

yep

[@kojoypenaklukdunia9769]

Yep

[@petergreaney1328]

Yep

[@mellowslice8953]

Facts

[@husseinbazzi340]

Yep

[@duneattack]

I just want to give the Donut guys props for putting so much effort into their channel. Donut might just be THE pinnacle of motorsports infotainment. Thanks guys. Love what you do!

[@adamotto6091]

Notice how they didnt do scores this week so there weren't riots

[@MrRedstoner]

Same last week

[@touringwagen]

I think they've dropped the scoring.

[@techiecreations]

I'm disappointed, I liked the numbers

[@its_smil3y12]

the biggest problem with the scoring was the koenigsegg vs bugatti video where just about everyone agreed that koenigsegg should have tied in the last category but then after literally saying nothing but good things they gave them 4 points. There was also just a lot of bias in that video altogether. that being said i really liked the scoring and think it made the series more enjoyable to watch

[@robmitchell3039]

The numbers were basically arbitrary.

[@potahtoegamingyt1552]

I miss bart and when he’d explain stuff abt engines and parts. What hapenef to him???

[@digitalcamaro9708]

He's a Dad now bro.

[@SulthanReihan]

PotahtoeGamingYt he quit donut

[@syedsyclone6827]

Having a child. No not another car.

[@Shareezy]

had a kid i think

[@JMPK23]

Damn. I love his personality. His videos were great. I also miss (I think his name was) tony.

[@annielfors5284]

Thank U!! 4 gettin’ rid of the points.

[@deadbeattaco6749]

17:08 Someone’s got the death wobble.

[@WeisserAudi]

I love them both but I’m more likely to afford/find an LS

[@stupidsnek]

Or a K

[@peari8676]

lol i was looking for some LS engines here in the UK and all I could find were Holden/Vauxhall Monaro's (which is a sick car dont get me wrong) but it was like £7k. Meanwhile I found a modified 2JZ-GTE for £2.5k.

[@alexismendoza1545]

@@peari8676 ig they're better if you're in the US or Aussie land

[@Mousyy]

@Dimetri Drossos couldnt have said it better myself friend! For example, I live in the middle of nowhere so finding cheapish RWD cars is impossible, throw an LS into a crown vic, and youve got yourself a cheap drift car!

[@magiccheeto]

It's pretty easy to find the 2jz ge. gotta swap the pistons and add forced induction, but when doing an engine swap money isn't usually an issue as it's gonna be expensive and complicated no matter what

[@NjDevilCamaro408]

If you’re gonna buy ‘new from the factory’ GM crate engine, Ls3 would’ve been a much better comparison. $6-7k TurnKey with harness making 480hp

[@HHH-tz4gc]

​@Jimmi Johnson there is more than 1 ls3 crate motor from Chevy. they make one 525hp as well, any of them can easily take 800 with boost

[@angelgjr1999]

Can my 2003 Mustang GT handle ls3? I can upgrade clutch.

[@TheMoldyOne]

yea for 8900 fully dresses ls3 that makes 530HP and it is brand new vs the 2jz that is used and will need a rebuild to make any decent power. he says 7k for 700hp...no another 7k in rebuild and forged internals maybe.

[@alig.20]

@@angelgjr1999 Im thinking this for a while too, but you would need to change transmission and differantial at the same time. Rear suspensions too if you want a real sportiness. As conclusion, you can grab a C5 Corvette instead of these.

[@stlchucko]

Jimmi Johnson Richard Holdener has made over 1200 on a stock junkyard 4.8 shortblock with over 160k miles, and he made 40+ dyno pulls over 1000hp. Tore the engine down and it was like brand new. He’s done the same with a junkyard 6L and made over 1500hp.

[@pujiri5752]

"I'm not sure how well it would work, but it would fit" Damn son😂

[@ilham7345]

*Me trying to fit cummins in a honda*

[@ericsson_motorsports]

Both engines are awesome but the logical option for swaps is the LS, I still like the 2JZ a lot but that's because I prefer the sound which is completely subjective

[@kevinfox500]

Same here. I like the sound of a V8, the bowling balls on a dryer soind, but I l9ve that smooth mechanical sound an I6 makes. Especially with a turbo. And a rowdy cam, coming out of the right exhaust. No sound like it. Ppwernation tirboed a Ford 300, and it sounds amazing. Enough so that my wife and I are talking about swappong a 95 pr 6 300, into jer 66 F 100. Best sounding one? The Barra.

[@numbahclaud7180]

Host: 2jz is special and nothing else is unique as it. Rotary: hold my Doritos

[@peperoninja387]

Great engine but not as simple as 2jz or ls (maintenance wise)

[@hantusendawa]

@@peperoninja387 keyword: >

Btw, it's rotary.

[@JakeG895]

rotary is uniquely trash

[@bobdole9163]

@@peperoninja387 Technically speaking, rotaries are more simple engines than either 2j's or LS. That's why they can be so small. Using them in a build can get more complex but only because thousands of people haven't already done all the work for you like 2j's and LS have.

[@WelcomeToTheMadness]

2JZ all the things. While I’m also looking for an LS to LS some things. They both serve a purpose. If anything just get both.

[@romulas-cushmanproject3273]

Welcome To The Madness get a LS to power the back wheels and a 2JZ to power the front wheels and have a weird AWD beast

[@runnitup4l748]

Alex's Customs I love your thinking

[@Verdeniza]

@@runnitup4l748 thatd be too heavy if you combined the two. Just turbo the LS and torquesplit with awd setup.

[@ericgarrison5097]

I feel same way,theyre both badass engines,both have a place

[@aaroneisenman6873]

@@romulas-cushmanproject3273 as a wise man once said: Hell yeah, Brother!

[@mannyp.8519]

Both are amazing engines but LS is the happy medium between price, performance, and reliability.

[@tinoelpapi1461]

I got a 2500 hd w a Ls currently at 457,000 miles runs like new no check engine light or anything

[@Sumpula]

And weight. I'd LS swap my S2000 any day over the overplayed, and heavy 2JZ.

[@joeericestrada3175]

@@Sumpula ah, a fellow s2000 owner. People are trying to convince me to engine swap mine. Ive only been recom 2jz so far.

[@jlo13800]

@@tinoelpapi1461 Do you pre-mix your ls-1?

[@scottelder6040]

When he said you just put an exhaust on your car and now want to do the next most logical thing and do an engine swap, I felt personally attacked😂

[@ajwash3247]

Nobody: Toyota’s performance department after making the 2JZ: ight imma head out

[@D-Man_Jam]

Can we not fight over them, and just take a moment to a appreciate these two colossal engines?

[@exquisiteart6478]

Thank you!

[@tomgfs0]

No

[@louiscrespo1280]

5.3 is way cheaper and you can make more power

[@chetmanley9781]

Barra is the king #shouldofrunabarra

[@stlchucko]

Chet Manley The only problem with a Barra is finding them outside of AUS.

[@Trading-Freedom11]

My two favorite engines here, 2jz are way more money to mod and swap , love how they sound tho . LS motors are cheap to built and slap a turbo or supercharger on them and urs making great reliable power as well

[@riceburner9187]

Yoan Lazo exactly, love both engines

[@pullbackracer5223]

@@riceburner9187 but there can only one superior engine.

[@chachob.9698]

@@pullbackracer5223 ls hands down.

[@peari8676]

Not here in the UK. Found a Lexus GS300 here for £800. Not sure I would mod it because it was listed for parts. Not even sure if it ran. But damn a 2JZ for £800? And it comes with a whole car! Unfortunately it's not turbocharged, but if you're thinking about modding you'd always put in a bigger turbo anyway.

[@sandasturner9529]

Can't change my mind about both. I love the LS motors and the 2JZ motors. Just a thing like "deciding on which I should take to work today" . Eventually I will get AND drive both.

[@Gldn1017]

Lets admit everyone at donut loves them LS motors 😭😭 [Edit- donut liked my comment nuff said]

[@phillytaylor]

But James is the JDM guy

[@jcaessens]

@@phillytaylor no he is not. He has a tattoo of Dodge on his chest. And drives a VW golf 3 that he loves.

[@RENO_K]

So cheap for so much power

[@WeisserAudi]

You know dodge paid him to get that Tatoo. James is a huge VW guy (if you don’t follow him on insta)

[@neongaming3444]

@David Sanchez sounds like you don't understand what an opinion is

[@stormwickham1675]

LS swaps are more simple, and way easier to mod. And the fact that they are better with wiring.

[@stlchucko]

“Leroy made 1349hp at LS fest” Completely ignores that Leroy made 1590hp at 26.4 psi and the setup is good for 35+psi. That’s over 240hp more than what the video stated. The only reason why Cleetus didn’t go for more on the dyno is he’s chasing numbers on time slips, not dynos. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpqcln56nsqrq6s

[@AJ-nh8ik]

Hell Yeah Brother

[@robertkotevski9649]

I was looking for that comment 👌

[@tstuff1213]

Facts, glad someone brought this up

[@ChillinwithChet]

He’s chasing slips with bald eagles brother!

[@loganmoss4891]

Or the fact that Jon doc made 2089 to the wheels...

[@kailpenner]

My brother is in the process of Ls swapping his 94 supra (it was na), gets his fair share of hate lmao

[@meh.7539]

At this point, I've got a honda I kinda want to swap an LS into.

[@Joey856721]

Good luck to his build!

[@yellowevoiv183]

if someone 2JZ swaps a camaro, a LS swap Supra must be made

[@meh.7539]

@@yellowevoiv183 That'd be rad and I wanna see it.

[@yellowevoiv183]

@@meh.7539 I think some people already done it on KZbin

[@ThomasWilliams-zo7ke]

This is the 1st episode of vs that seemed to be bipartisan

[@MCmichaelD_]

Thomas Williams because there was no scoring

[@HawkyStudying]

The second

[@cole2999]

Last one wasn't bad.

[@shaunmilor]

I liked the scoring, people just needed to learn to take it with a grain of salt and not get so aggro...

[@novathepug6692]

@@shaunmilor the scoring was flawed, I like a scoring system but not the way he had it. Maybe if he had a checklist for each category. Whoever won that check got the point. Then the amount of checks would be the points scored for that category.

[@veritechzero]

"Everyone's got that one car that they love. That would be great if it just had more power." Says the guy who owns a brz. :)

[@gustavohp3439]

He own a FRS, but is the same car

[@lulmoewiththegimpyleg6815]

🤣🤣 I'm fawkin hot!!!!

[@jake10386]

"Donut Media JZ Jamboree" we need it

[@bukkuk5949]

Jazz Jamboree is Polish Jazz festival .. where they got it who knows .. -) ..

[@bbinc.8893]

I'm more of a muscle guy but both of these engines are absolutely amazing

[@sirloin4372]

I’m a v8 guy and I haven’t owned a 4 or 6 cylinder motor in over 20 years. I have 4 cars 3 of them are v8’s. But all 4 are Cadillacs. I just bought a ats with the 2.0t. Never owned a turbo or driven on till the ats. I must say im pretty impressed with the motor. It’s 272 hp out the box and lots of support for the platform. There are a few 500+ hp 2.0t’s around. I want to take mine to 400 whp and run e85 as well.

[@100mostlyauthentic]

Meanwhile in Australia, 2200hp stock block Barra haha

[@TheRyancamaro]

Snickers in 1500hp stock bottom end LS

[@NjoyMoney]

Stock block that is built, not stock internals.

[@aaronmontgomery2055]

didn't that get discontinued in 2016?

[@andrewlace]

@@aaronmontgomery2055 it did, but it was pretty much the most popular engine here, used in taxis until 2016 or so. So from about 2002-2016 there's a lot of cheap engines. They are ridiculously reliable, you're more likely to have a blown ecu than an engine. Notoriously overbuilt, a lot of tuners get a LPG green top (na), change the valve springs and don't even gap the piston rings.

[@Toiletstainz]

Barra the world!!!

[@stlchucko]

“LS has a notorious short deck, and if you’re going to put in a crank from a larger engine...” Someone didn’t do their homework. All LS engines have the same stroke with only 2 exceptions... the 4.8L has a shorter stroke (exact same block as the 5.3L) and the 7L LS7 has a longer stroke. .. but no one uses LS7 cranks, only aftermarket. Which moves onto the next point: It’s not the “short deck” that’s the issue. It’s the cylinders don’t extend deep into factory iron blocks, so the piston skirts extend out more than desired. Stroker cranks still work in those iron blocks, but they don’t have as much longevity. Aluminum blocks have less issues with such things since their sleeves extend deeper into the block, giving the piston skirts more support. Also, he brought up the LSX376, a boost ready crate engine with the cast LSX block that’s rated to handle 2500hp. And for stock bottom end strength, Richard Holdener has done hordes of torture dyno tests stressing completely stock junkyard shortblocks, adding cam/heads/turbo and making 1200+hp from a 4.8L and 1600hp from a 6L... and they were still good to go higher.

[@swarthy59]

Power Auto Media did a video about a company that is famous for LS engine builds, and one for Coyote builds and put them head to head in a $15000 or so (I havent seen the video in a while) contest. SPOILERS - the LS engine use an lsx block with their build techniques and a pro charger that put 1700hp to the crank, and the only reason why it failed was a head gasket, and they had troubles with belt slip. I'm not saying the didnt do their research, but they definitely didnt go deep enough into it. You're right in your comment of LS engines can hold a lot more than they're saying.

[@00blackfrc]

Ever heard of a goddamn turbo?

[@robertlucas1435]

@@00blackfrc he mentioned turbos tho, so im sure

[@mac6746]

Yep

[@itsFiggers]

@@swarthy59 the head gasket failed due to stock head bolts, they ran out of budget to upgrade to arp studs. They said confidently it could do 2k crank hp if they had studs. LS for life!

[@bonelesswatermelon420]

Damn the JZ is so good they named a singer after it

[@krispeppers8309]

Rapper?

[@DONTXCRASH]

And he's the GOAT

[@WellWisdom.]

Hahaha

[@tankpenguin175]

The 2JZ is perfectly balanced, as all I6s should be.

[@4739-g9c]

They still make less hp. And v8 ls are very well balanced

[@nitefawl]

i hate it when people say that as if you actually notice it on the track.

[@junioradult6219]

As far as balanced isnt the f20c way ahead there

[@killstacy8088]

Have this man forgotten higher displacement engines have less stress when running high power

[@REAPER3fitty]

The thousands of high horsepower stock block j engines don't care kid

[@killstacy8088]

@@REAPER3fitty lmao

[@Loganreeder26]

@@REAPER3fitty like the guy in the vid said, you dont buy the j engines for stock power

[@trollmunchkinzm4364]

I-KATANAGUANA-I I’ve never seen a 3,000hp Supra but I have seen 3,000hp corvette. the guy in the video even said that, Ls should have won they power argument too but either way he still admitted it’s the superior engine

[@gaku3702]

But in theory if these engines were to have the same displacement, the LS can’t compete.

[@Viperin98]

I’m glad they didn’t do the points thing and just gave facts about the engines and let us decide which we like better

[@niko1600]

Because the LS is a better engine but if they said that it was there would be riots lol

[@realRickSanchez]

LS: An engine for everybody 2JZ: For Fast & Furious keyboard mechanic and deep pockets guys. Both great engines.

[@rylanprime6176]

blackandgold51 An LS Delorean would be crazy. I wonder if one exists....

[@Pauli-COJ]

@@rylanprime6176 see "RCR delorean LS swap"

[@gmcclelland84]

Don't get me wrong, I love a good LS but there's just something about a 2JZ banging the Rev limiter that just sounds insane.

[@pjz7088]

Petition for the first annual "JZ Jamboree", who's with me?

[@thepebbleman]

Signed

[@hansoloyolo3274]

Signed

[@kasoe2221]

Signed

[@themadlad_]

imma bring a rotary

[@brembobrakes9656]

Signed

[@gionotreal]

Let’s be real we like them because they have MOAR POWAH BABEH

[@feisaljauharitufail]

Heck yeah MORE POWER BABY.

[@termalss]

Where's the "HELL YA BROTHER" gang?

[@JaredConnell]

Do it for dale!

[@faulball67]

Let 'er rip!

[@loudchurchmouse]

Yee yee

[@tylerpoore97]

Hell yeeah brother

[@sandking9918]

Hell yea brother

[@TheChoosenOne94]

I love watching videos about stuff I won't have ❤ Gonna keep on rocketing my 1.9JTD engine to the moon!

[@zachwesner5095]

Donut: “it’s not like there’s a JZ Jaboree or anything” Literally everyone “GREG, GET ON THAT”

[@raz_nick4048]

As an LS fan I wouldn't mind mind a 2JZ fest at all

[@raymonds7492]

Write that down, WRITE THAT DOWN.

[@samlogan5353]

"everyone's got that one car that they love that would be great if it just had more power" First gen Miata 😂😂

[@suprastevio2264]

Perfect example 👌

[@air-headedaviator1805]

Every car

[@brianaustin148]

yup, 91 na miata, i need mo powa baby.

[@dakotajones8010]

Turbo kit 200-220whp done and my friend dig raced one in his fbo 08 srt8 it was quick

[@matthewcaneva7798]

They make LS swap kits for them ;)

[@sigmaprojects]

There are definitely more powerful LS motors being ran that still have the stock block.

[@FizzaMC]

Sigma Projects just google Summernats here in Australia mate... 🤭 there’s quite a few LS motors being used in burnout cars here and they make massive power. Seriously check it out 😀

[@Uncle_Willi_son_]

Sloppy mechanics made over a 1000 on a stock bottom end. This show sucks.....

[@CanadaBud23]

@@Uncle_Willi_son_ 1076 to the tire. Probably just over 1200hp at crank SBE.

[@67buick]

Richard holdner made 1600hp on a sbe. And if you want real world numbers, a sbe 5.3 has went 4.50 at 150+ mph in the 8th.

[@nicolasjorgensen4126]

Yah I've seen guys with nearly 2k hp with an iron block 6.0l lol. Also mentions a jz on nitrous yet ls iron blocks on nitrous can easily go over 2k haha.

[@thomasmullins1783]

I have the ls on my truck and I've been dailying it, modified, for over 30k miles w in the zero issues at all. It's not stupidly built but it'll throw down all day long. I've raced it plenty of times and never had issues. It also pushes my truck down the strip or street faster than my friend with a modded 2jz lexus. Both are effing great motors. Both are easy to work on. The lexus is sitting at 230k miles, my truck is sitting 168k miles, but I just got rid of another ls truck with over 300k on it and still working good.

[@StellarGale]

Some dudes made over 1000 hp by boosting a stock iron block "LS" Silverado that clocked at least 500K miles before tuning.

[@pollutedcrimson]

They made a 2.2 cavalier handle 1200 hp on stock internals

[@WastdTrashPanda]

Maybe so, but it probably only made that power once before it blew. Stock LS engines just will not hold that power. You need a built bottom end, damn good gas, and a great tune.

[@CoyoteFTW]

Thats cute, coyotes hold 1k hp stock engines.

[@StellarGale]

@@WastdTrashPanda well it didn't. Although I butchered some details in my original comment. It was a Colorado with junkyard 6.0 that clocked 250K miles before being boosted by Sloppy Mechanics to 1000+ rwhp and even raced to 9.78 at 143 mph in 1/4 mile.

[@lorisfoucart2475]

"sOmE dUdEs"

[@Wafflecombo54]

Damn I see why people LS swapping the world, Well I mean the engines were already in a lotta cars.

[@IC3XR]

Australians watch this channel too, you know! Give us an episode on the Barra powered XR6T!!!!

[@marcuszeaiter1842]

Fucken oath, barra would beat JZ anyday

[@doodlebob-t1t]

they should do commodore vs falcon, thatd be sick

[@Sheridantank]

Probably a Australian car video would be more likely.

[@liamlees5899]

And the sohc intech

[@Granty4510]

Barra is trash Ahahah

[@chewthysteak]

Seriously, this new show is just them guessing facts and slapping a "you won" sticker on whatever they felt like winning.

[@urmom2490]

W H A T I S L I F E ? Get ur thumb out of ur ass and watch the episodes carefully. They show u facts and they show u proof of whatever they are talking about. He always shows the positives and the negatives. He doesn’t tell u which one to like he evaluates them as evenly as he can.

[@Hamburgler6.9]

I've owned a 6spd G35 for 10 years and I've never heard of the CD009 being able to handle 1000hp.

[@ismailemreakyol9232]

@@urmom2490 wow someone doesn't know anything about whats going on. Go and watch this guy's other videos like the "Mustang vs Camaro" or "Koenigsegg vs Bugatti" then if you still can't understand it means you have got big trouble pal

[@limabravo6065]

The yard near me will pull an LS for a whopping $240

[@DarkInstinct05]

Make sure it's in good running order... The Miata is a cheap solution?

[@Mew-269]

bottom line, these are 2 sick engines.

[@Slidewinder]

Yeah, put the rivalry aside, can’t we all just get along?

[@Nino__.]

Amen

[@PaganiGaming]

Day 130 of asking James to do an Up to speed on his Dad

[@orinramsumeer8097]

I second this request! Mo Powah baby!

[@mybackhurts7020]

130 days I don’t think he wants to talk about it

[@lamp7746]

I sign this petition

[@aghhhah7508]

Watch the BMW list video. He talked about what happened to his dad

[@aydanangus]

Day 131 of liking this comment

[@quinnbarber8236]

Can I introduce you to a little friend of us Aussies. It’s called the Barra. It’s an 4L in-line 6 turbo DOHC. Stock it produces around 380-410kw. It’s bigger and stronger than the 2JZ and is only sold in Australia. It can handle 2000 hp on a stock block. Next level up from the 2JZ

[@paytondean1339]

Nobody: Supra guys: Did he say 2JZ?

[@mayuravirus6134]

All i can hear with that Did he just say 2jz text is james saying it

[@dren4k]

Russian mark 2 guys 2jz = gay 1jz = god

[@sepg5084]

Nobody: ...Nobody

[@morenokid12]

This was much less impartial than the others, good on ya donut. Tho I feel the 2j is just as good tho I am a GM boy! It's all about application right ?

[@andoletube]

Maybe look up "impartial" in the dictionary? You mean much more impartial.

[@BiggMo]

Donut guys aren’t shy about being JDM fanboys. So, yes... good for Donut for going beyond their bias.

[@boboso4978]

Both are great for big power builds, I'd use the LS simply for weight savings over the 2J though... That's just me though...

[@optimusprimus89]

Yeah I agree this vid was alot better. But yeah I'm thinking the users preference plays a big part since both the pros and cons of each engine kinda cancel the other out lol

[@Sheridantank]

I’ll reiterate as I have in other videos. Whether you agree or not, just appreciate the information. We should expect subjectivity as it’s a subjective subject.

[@Brandon-ud6rp]

You guys should do an up to speed episode for Factory Five Racing

[@hacatan24]

I have a feeling these guys don't know what that is lol ..... But yeah they should do it!!!

[@dalemiller5569]

Hell yes!!

[@KraZbmx]

Ruby had a 5.3 leroy never did would just like to point that out

[@DaGamerDude97]

Absolutely!!!

[@Mcali1984]

Two totally different sounding motors. But a boosted LS means business. A 2JZ is no slouch. But, in all honest. Sound and flex aside. A booster LS is the way to go in America. More power capability’s, shockingly more reliable cheaper to mod and more access to parts.

[@vicburt6001]

Mexican electronics?

[@RECTALBURRITO]

Opinion. What do you mean by booster? Supercharger? Turbo? I do agree to more access to parts here in America. But a good supercharger or turbo charger you're looking at at least 8k to add on.

[@youngcampfire9567]

14:33 aren’t any vvti JZ engines interference engines? (at least for the GE ones as far as i know) so any non interference applications would have to be without variable valve timing

[@DrewJZ]

The gte engines are all non interference engines unless you put big cams in them. Im pretty sure the 1jz is interference..but who cares.

[@MastaJuse]

vvti = interference non vvti = non interference

[@qqqqqq724]

@@MastaJuse exactly and if you put a gte hg on a na vvti it becoms non interference

[@steadyfab]

J Choe all vvti “non” turbo motor were interference. The gte vvti weren’t

[@skiddy527]

4:15 Everyone knows supras come with 1000hp stock duh

[@dominic.m.i.]

Me looking at the comments section in every versus video to see crazy strangers fight😂😂....And Donut drops this one... Me:This is going to be interesting....

[@transitovanegas313]

Haven't found a single fight so far

[@kitaryakysubae3156]

Fun fact. The small block 350 was literally the LS1 before the LS1. The only thing they changed is the mapping for the block cast for better flow. That's it. And immediately picked up 20% more power and torque

[@0302Shane]

No it wasn’t

[@ryanrake2714]

Not quite. The 350s where iron blocks, less efficient heads, some lower and some higher compression. The ls1 is technically 346 cubes. And a third gen small block.

[@IdioticTrolling]

The small block 350 closest cousin from another mother is the 305 L69 HO out of the Monte SS. You can turn one into the 350 with a little effort by putting the head of the 350 to the 305 block with a little mod.

[@jelksautox]

Anyone else get the vibe at the beginning of these shows that he already has picked his favorite and is trying to sell us on it instead of just presenting the information?

[@techvlogs7187]

exactly

[@andreas9720]

Anyone else think it's about personal preference and not about bashing on the opposite side just because they like something more?

[@IC3XR]

For the love of god, do the Australian BARRA some justice!!!

[@lachlansaunders9873]

XR6 Turbo pls mate shut up no one cares about some trash as Barra engine

[@69strokefasterthanyourmum]

@@lachlansaunders9873 Well i do, makes all the right noises and can make big power!

[@matthewmcnamee5018]

More of an intech man myself, just a bigger fan of the single cam noises (love a good vct intech)

[@veyrondb]

I would rather have a Barra then a JZ they just drive nicer

[@danisouthere]

As a jz fanboy I fucking love barras

[@yet_another_tobi]

Title: RB-26: Am I a joke to you?

[@braiansingh9730]

also k series

[@christianhepler7798]

RB 26 only mates to an AWD transmission I think. And K-Series is rarely swapped into anything that isn't a Honda.

[@fudrnr2033]

@@christianhepler7798 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z3-bcqZjaL5jbKM Kseries beating v8s all day

[@benfillman4049]

@@christianhepler7798 simply not true. you see RBs in 240s left and right.

[@turtledude2924]

@@christianhepler7798 you can mate a rb to a cd009 with a swap kit... also they had some rwd rb25s if im not wrong

[@mitchypoo117]

Great video, donut is the best. I can guaranty you there are LS’s putting down way more than 1300 hp though.

[@terlaluanjay]

5:54 thanks for mentioning that. the block, crank and rod of the 1jz and 2jz ge non vvti is essentially the same thing as the gte one

[@joeyd879]

And there's nothing wrong with the GE head. Plenty of people making big power with them.

[@ashhketchumm]

what u want is the trans

[@darealgeemattey7010]

2jzge vvti is has the same strength block (without oil squirters) same crank (different bearings) but it has weaker rods and pistons and has a “higher flowing” head

[@terlaluanjay]

@@ashhketchumm now days people are using cd009 and t56 magnum anyways

[@TEEDUBS]

3:25 My dumb ass thought that LS was sitting on someone’s bed in the photo. 🤣

[@-ahvilable-6654]

I agree, it is in the bed

[@hyri3188]

TEEDUBS my man just sleepin with his LS😳😳😳

[@gusparra4037]

Gotta tuck it

[@febrianadji5758]

Dang that's a featherweight LS there

[@king_h.3826]

That guy used to sleep with that LS maybe 😂

[@nfinzer22]

Someone really needs to teach this guy to say "baby" after "more power." Also, #BringBackBart

[@thejay8963]

1. Okay, but he wants to have his own character, not copy the other Donut hosts. 2. Bart’s gone. Deal with it. Man went off and had a sweet baby, didn’t have time to do filming and parenting. Your stupid hashtag won’t do anything.

[@Mach_bro]

When the highest hp ls he could find is 1300hp, me back here with a freind with a 2600hp built ls wagon lol

[@carlrygwelski586]

Fake

[@blainezaskowski1528]

@@carlrygwelski586 its called drag builds that cost like a 100 thousand dollars and have more time into it than you have been alive

[@optimaljz746]

Yup, my father in law has a 1300 hp ls block and he’s only running 30 lbs of boost, he can run upwards of 45 lbs of boost

[@trashbandit2449]

Yeah the best they could find was 1300??

[@alexsvedegard]

Dyno sheet?

[@jrbuch]

I respect both - they're awesome engines. My 1JZ-VVTi is putting out 550rwhp very smoothly, with response and reliability. Can't deny the LS engines are awesome though. I wouldn't say no to an LS3 with some mods.

[@AidanF-ru4wp]

Let’s be honest the Yugo 55 engines are what we really want

[@juanp2936]

You right

[@fulltimegamer9194]

The 13b

[@faizaanahmed1540]

Don't mind either, as long as they rip

[@XXniccloXX]

Hell yeah brother!

[@69strokefasterthanyourmum]

Exactly this, no musccle or import elitism. Let them both rip in their own ways!

[@Locky1229]

"A built 2JZ can handle 50psi of boost!" Me: *Laughs in 60psi crammed head first into a Ford Barra turbo* I mean, i know it's an aussie thing, but come on, you've at least gotta mention it in a future video!

[@NjoyMoney]

PSI means nothing without the size of the turbo....

[@alexbolin852]

Supposedly, there's been someone in the world who's made 53lbs of boost on a 5.3 on a stock block if im not mistaken, I'd have to fact check it but I've heard it multiple times so I'm kinda sure its true

[@danieljones7843]

@GankMan plenty of Barras down here in Australia making over 2000hp with heaps more people building theirs up to the same level. Pretty sure that makes any point you are trying to make invalid.

[@danieljones7843]

@Alex Bolin Haltech have a drag car with a Barra running 55 psi, Jim Gianna and Jason Ghiller have FG falcons that run 40psi and making over 1000 rear wheel kw, Jim Gianna ran his like that for 3 years no probs and plans to raise boost to 70 psi. Dion Amato is running a 10,000 rpm 2000hp Barra powered Dodge Avenger making mid 4 second passes at the quarter mile. Plenty of examples of Barra power to choose from.

[@NjoyMoney]

@@danieljones7843 What u said has nothing to do with what i said wich still stands, but you are just one of thoose "i repeat what i see on the internet" type of guy without actual knowledge.

[@J0s3ho0dlum]

Just started watching and if JZ wins I’m never watching Versus again. Already disappointed me by picking the mustang over the Camaro. James you’re still the man, and will watch everything else.

[@matthewcaneva7798]

The Mustang over the Camaro was a no brainer. Don't get me wrong, I love the GM F-Body platform and have owned a 2nd gen Firebird, 3rd gen Camaro, and 4th gen Trans Am, but the Mustang is just something else that has transformed the auto industry in ways the Camaro never could.

[@tobiasdierks]

They removed the scoring. So you choose which ones better

[@tomster7574]

the mustang is a more reliable car by far. all mods aside, the rest of the car will outlast gm every time. back in the day? just a difference of preference only.

[@69strokefasterthanyourmum]

Why?

[@keithlarsen8423]

getting an LS might help make you some friends.... IM SOLD

[@r.j.bedore9884]

I know it's cheating because it means swapping the block and crank, but I lust after one of those JZ based V12s. I remember seeing one like ten years ago that used a 90° billet aluminum block and forged steel crankshaft with factory heads, pistons, and connecting rods that weighed about the same as the factory iron block engines. It was obviously wider than a stock JZ and probably can't handle as much boost, but if you could get it to fit, the exhaust note was magical. I personally want to build one based on the single turbo 1JZ-GTE (possibly with FSE direct injection heads) to make a 5.0 liter twin turbo V12. I just don't have the money, or a suitable car to put it in.🤣😭

[@jellofuel]

I remember the first time I saw an LS swapped 350z, I thought it fits in there better than the VQ

[@tkgus2408]

I just came in to say, "the most popular engines" not "the best engines in the world".

[@tacticalplayer6337]

Truth

[@dren4k]

1jz is way more popular than 2jz lol Aaaaaaand 1g is more popular than 1jz))))

[@andrewmontgomery1763]

What do you think is better than an LS? Taking into account, cost, aftermarket support, availability, easy of maintenance and modification, hp to engine weight, hp to size (I.e. ability to swap in diverse engine bays), and just the raw ability to make considerable power mostly stock with a simple cam and spring swap. Heck a 4.8 will make 320 rwhp with a cam and spring swap.

[@dren4k]

@@andrewmontgomery1763 it can be rb25det if you can fix oil pump

[@grimey5.565]

@@andrewmontgomery1763 He doesnt know. Because there isnt.

[@justinturner4850]

You can’t get a dyno tune here on Maui so as much as I LOVE JZ sounds.... I will put an LS in my next S14. I miss my S13s and S14s so much🥺 I sold them and bought an ‘18 STI. It’s great but my heart belongs to 240s forever.

[@theconsigliere8463]

i love both these engines for everything they can do, and they are both good looking under the hoods of whatever they are put in but one thing for sure is taking that 4cyl out and looking at that beautiful v8 plenum or a fat supercharger is something else. as for the 2jz goes having an engine bay big enough and seeing that massive snail they call a turbo is also just as beautiful. with all that said just do both and have best of both worlds

[@boominbimmers7499]

I’d love to swap a LS in my E36

[@shreyasaaron5438]

okay wow I was literally dreaming about which one of the two engines I should swap into my imaginary car 😂 what are the odds?

[@Donut]

i dream about it every night - Joey

[@suprastevio2264]

What's your imaginary car??

[@racingjunk7024]

2 great choices

[@potent_steel_0576]

*whispers* I would go with a jz

[@shreyasaaron5438]

@@suprastevio2264 as of now I want to have a Vaydor G35(which is a kit car for the Infiniti G35) and swap either a 2JZ or a LS in it. I'm just 14 rn so ig I have a long way to go. I just love the sound of the 2JZ but yeah the LS route should be cheaper

[@zainb2261]

This is a tough one. I’d go LS for a swap because I’m not down to wait for Japanese importers. 2jz was more available here in Canada it would be a winner for me.

[@K1eaner]

Holy ship's, this video saved me months of research on what goes and doesn't go with engine swaps.

[@JosephNnbs]

I swear y’all don’t do enough real research. Especially about ls.

[@jimmyhudman5161]

Joseph Brogna yep

[@SquirrelAngry]

Talks about engine swaps, and they completely gloss over trucks and powerbands. You aren't going to see much low RPM torque from a JZ, especially when you look at LS crawler builds.

[@zlatomirapaeva2251]

shut up u ls swapped jeep kinda looking thing

[@bri-manhunter2654]

Exactly, there are a lot 1000plus hp LS motors on non billet blocks.

[@trixnhoez2964]

Even when he kinda cringes whilst saying a 3 speed auto from the 60s could possibly work behind an LS. Of course it could, probably 50% of the genuinely fast cars I've seen in my life have been running either glides or turbo 400s.. It's like he doesn't know cars above 350rwhp actually exist.

[@jadenkorr979]

I just spent 3 minutes pressing f5 just to see the new vid

[@dinho890i]

The Ls engine is good but i dislike it for no reason

[@Tool0GT92]

It's the popular kid in school

[@chrisjosekuehl]

Weight distribution is one factor you forgot to mention. Depending on what you want to do the LS is going to provide a better weight distribution by being shorter and being able to sit further back.

[@buff-pm4cp]

And also since it's lighter , there won't be greater weight acting on the front axles

[@streetboyz1096]

Simple answer: The Barra😉

[@30deezy65]

Streetboyz yessir

[@williamfosterXD]

A man of culture I see

[@lukejay3519]

Barra>jz and ls 👌

[@terlaluanjay]

@Brandon Velickovic and cheap

[@phmaximus]

Im from Australia and my pick is the LS.... With a MAF'less tune they are cheap and go hard.

[@eddieblazek9692]

“Ls can’t match up to the iron block jz bottom end” 5.3 truck motor can hold over 1000 hp. Watch Richard holdinger

[@Knightmare-gz9ls]

I see you too are a fan of "the other guys"

[@randomstickguy67]

and cleetus mcfarland he boosted junkyard 5.3 truck motors over 1k

[@martyrowe1680]

With rods and piston's it can, and you don't have to wind them to 9000 RPM to make horsepower.

[@stlchucko]

marty rowe It doesn’t need rods or pistons to make 1000hp. I see you’ve never watched Richard Holdener.

[@slamrahovart9024]

A couple hours before watching this I was talking with a buddy of mine about a jz into a fast back style corolla. It'd be you're own type B car! Also, now I want to start a Toyota gathering called Suprapalooza

[@Lenniusce]

He did an excellent job explaining, I’m a fan now 👏