TORO E24 Electric Snow Blower In Action With Donyboy73!

[@johnw1178]

Love the follow up. I will still keep my Honda HS621 from 1996. It’s served me well and still starts up on 1 or 2 pulls. It was way expensive when I bought it buy it has served me well with minimal maintenance. I also had a Toro 26” that I upgraded to an Ariens Platinum to handle the big snow that we get here in lower NY from time to time. I only use the big machine to clear what the plow dumps on my 50+ feet of street exposure. The one thing I can say is the joystick control on the Toro is by far the best. It’s like surgical direction on the removal.

[@BobHerres]

Excellent Thank you! I thought it might be quieter. Many years ago when I shovelled, I truly appreciated "occasional extra help" from those who owned snowblowers. Now, I've have owned Snowblowers for more than 10 years... whenever we get a "BigSnow" I always help out a few shovellers... It would be very sad if I ran out of battery power on the "BigSnow Days..."😒

[@bw6078]

I help the neighbors with my blower as well. You make a good point

[@BobHerres]

@@bw6078 Thx I actually bought a new Cub Cadet in mid January 2022. In Jan 2023, I had shovelled most of my deep snow into a "big 3ft deep row, ready to snowblow it far away!" Just as I started, one of the new cables broke!! Yes it was less than one year old! **Thankfully a good neighbour willingly came to my rescue, with his gas powered snowblower! 😇 / Later, I purchased a bulk roll of wire cable, and fixed it myself, it wasn't worth chasing the Cub Cadet Warranty! and now I have lots of extra cable: -)

[@chk1tout]

100% this! Be sure to clean your driveway first if you have to be somewhere that day so that you don't run out of juice for yourself. With a 50% battery drain with the 1 driveway (which is probably equivalent to 1.66 "city" driveways), then you could probably do almost 4 driveways in the city, and 2 in the more rural areas. We've had a few storms this year where you are out there twice in a day to keep up, hopefully the battery charge time isn't too long.

[@elcheapo5302]

It worked great--what I'd expect from Toro. The problem is, if that had been 8" of wet heavy snow with the windrow from the plow at the end of the driveway, you'd have been shoveling. Maybe even with the third battery. There are definitely applications for this, and the hassle free ownership is definitely a plus, but it's not for everybody. A high quality gas powered snowblower properly maintained will last a lifetime--I'm still using the Toro I bought in 1992!

[@frankhoward7645]

From Minnesota. Still using my Honda I bought in 1984! Never had to buy a battery and never used more than a gallon of gas for the season.

[@robertczaplicki4001]

As gas snowblowers could last 20 years or even longer with moderate use, battery snowblowers will eventually need new batteries. The price of these batteries will only increase in cost to the point where it is more than the cost of the blower. Not dissing battery OPE as I have a few smaller applications, but for the larger equipment, it just doesn’t make sense.

[@heatherlmn]

I bought a two stage gas Toro in 2019 and had problems with it not starting for the first 2 years I owned it - had it serviced after it finally gave up and they said there were metal pieces in the gas tank (I think is what he said) and put in a warranty claim. The guy also mentioned parts of the engine they used to make better than current models. I still don't trust it and I do not know small engines.... so looking at something like this. Thank you for the reviews!

[@keithkamps77]

not bad, you do need to test that thing on the heavier deeper snow.

[@deanmoore420]

Where I live, I have to have a pretty big tractor to blow my snow my tractor is practically brand new has a 59 inch blower on it and it’s a diesel and it will be around for a long time 2035 will be the end of combustion engines but I will still have my tractor. They can’t pull the plug and feel that people still have equipment. I just thought I’d mention that to you but great video enjoyed it.

[@NRP1991]

Incredible. I truly like that you put emphasis on that it’s a normal two stage unit just a battery powered motor on it. It’s not an entirety different machine like some other brands make a separate machine for battery vs gasoline

[@eosjoe565]

Agree

[@WatsitTooyah]

Same model blower has handled two severe lake effect blizzards just this year. Roughly 3 feet and 4 feet of downfall each. With that much snow it did take 2 rounds to clear everything including sidewalks and additional pile ups by the road. This isn't a problem for me. Can still get it done in a day. Plus I don't mind a break after an hour. If I had to get a car out it was doable on 1 charge. Best way to get batteries for these is with combos from other tools in this 60v line. I use the battery from my mower so that I have 3 6AH batteries to use at once. I don't have experience with gas blowers but I don't have any desire for one, I'll take the trade offs of electric.

[@hernandayolearyallda]

How did it handle the windrows [big heavy/icy snow piles at the bottom of driveway dumped by the city ploughs]?

[@WatsitTooyah]

@@hernandayolearyallda it'll do them. I wouldn't let that stuff sit for too long or it hardens up into ice and is more of a pain

[@barrypettit3668]

Looks like a pretty good machine. Appreciate your unbiased opinion. I will keep my Ariens 24 Deluxe because i clear 4 driveways and clear the town sidewalk.Most of the time i am throwing heavy wet snow. Even in a harsh winter i don't use 25 liters of premium gas for the Ariens or lawn mower in a year .Hope you get some more snow and do another video. As always a good video.

[@CivilDefenceCanada]

I think that the tech is getting better but range anxiety still gets me on this one. We get several big dumps of snow here at the edge of the great lakes, and it's wet, heavy stuff a lot of the time. Genuinely concerned I'd get 3/4 of the job done then the batteries would be kaput and I'd do the rest by hand. This type of machine looks to make sense maybe where snow is light and storms don't leave a lot. Thank you for your unbiased opinions on this. PS - would love to see this 1 year later to see how it holds up, what the batteries are like then, any other observations, etc.

[@TheOtherBill]

I agree it's a machine for light snow and small areas. I don't like the way it almost stopped when he hit the deeper stuff, and only being 24" it means a lot more extra passes.

[@Dusdaddy]

I don't know, I look at it like gas. If I go through a tank and I 'm not done, I better have more, right? So, same thing here, I better have spare batteries ready to go. Once you have that covered, I think I would welcome the simplicity and lack of maintenance. Obviously, a 24" may be too small for some applications but this is a common size.

[@TheOtherBill]

@@Dusdaddy But you can buy 20 years worth of gas for the cost of a single battery.

[@rdumoulin1]

i think this "range anxiety" is bs. only people who never tried one would say that. think about it, do you have range anxiety with your cellphone? with a flashlight, anything with a battery? i don't worry about my cell dying. you just have to figure out how long it will last and then you get to go inside and have a hot cocoa.

[@WatsitTooyah]

@@rdumoulin1 I think once you set realistic expectations with how much work can be done on a charge and you have enough batteries for your use case these are great. Problem is toro is too optimistic in their advertising.

[@MikeJones-jr5hb]

Time will tell! I bought an electric mower last summer but the batteries woudn't charge so I took it back & got my money back. Good luck!

[@siropderable1]

Thanks for the review, wonder how it would have been using eco mode. I just bought the Greenworks 2 stage 80V. So far so good, Costco deal added an extra 4 years warranty on the batteries for a total of 8 years. Great for a 4-6 car driveway in Eastern Ontario, quiet is odd to get used to.

[@frankhoward7645]

Looks like a fine machine however my problem is that same problem that lurks in every battery powered machine. How long will those batteries last and when they do go, how much will it cost to replace them? The answer will show just how expensive battery powered snowblowers, lawnmowers, and trimmers etc. really are.

[@boblemon2103]

You’ll have to update us on how well the batteries hold up at the end of the season and then are they any good next year. Gas doesn’t cost me $500+ a season (yet) so I hope I could get years out of the batteries. I suspect if you wanted to be neighborly and help out you won’t get too far before you are out of juice. Kids won’t take the snowblower and make to much money either before they are out of juice. Would like to see it work on that pile the plows leave at the bottoms of the drive way. Hope battery technology improves before my gas blower passes on.

[@bornagainbornagain6697]

Looking forward to some wet snow. Not totally but heavier than the bone dry fluff. Still on the fence. My lawnmower is battery, but not sold yet. Thanks for the vid and all the ones that helped me fix my gas blower. I trust your opinion and value all your videos.

[@KSMike1]

Right now on Marketplace, within two miles of my house, there are two 24” 2-stage MTD’s, both a year old and in perfect condition, either of which I could buy for less than one of those batteries. I do appreciate the unbiased review.

[@biggyboodles6458]

I have the exact same model, and it did amazing with the only significant snowfall we've had so far in upstate NY...8 inches heavy and wet...just over 1500 sq ft between driveway and sidewalks...still had one bar left, which I was perfectly fine with. Killed the 20" berm at the end of the driveway after the plows came through like it was nothing. I'll be selling our Ariens compact after using this. This was with the 2 included 6amp batteries. Great review!

[@WatsitTooyah]

Good stuff! A great addon is the recycler mower so that you'll have an additional battery.

[@biggyboodles6458]

@@WatsitTooyah if someone is willing to trade a 60v recycler for an Ego, I'd be down! The ego mower I will say has been flawless, this will be it's 5th year this spring, still with the original battery, and no signs of degradation!

[@Dusdaddy]

Finally, someone who actually has experience with it instead of all these armchair reviewers who probably don't even have driveways. Thank you sir.

[@biggyboodles6458]

@@Dusdaddy glad I could help! I will add I did run over the remnants of a 40 gallon trash can hit by a plow...it chewed it up and threw it back into the street before I realized what happened...I guess the anti clog system they used to replace the shear pins works! 👍 Any other questions, I'll be happy to help!

[@rk22cc]

@@Dusdaddy this reviewer has been thru too many snow storms, including loss of power need to charge dead batteries

[@JHruby]

Great review and IMO Toro has a winner there. Reviews of electric power equipment tend to trigger a certain segment of the population. A few comments to try to bring some perspective. 1. There is a specific target market for electric snow blowers. The market segment is the user who has to clear snow from a moderate-sized driveway like a smaller single-family home or multi-party dwelling like a townhome. This user wants simplicity, quiet operation, and ease of use with minimal maintenance and storage concerns. The target market for a blower like the Toro doesn't care about buying the cheapest, they want simplicity and reliability. In general, this is NOT a DIY-repair buyer, so the appeal of electric is that it needs much less in terms of summarization. Add to this that the potential for fuel-related issues and related repairs is simply not there with electric. 2.. All power equipment must be sized properly for the intended use. The e24 is NOT sized for the guy who needs to do multiple big driveways in an area that gets multiple dumps of 12+ inches per snowfall. ANY 24-inch low HP gasoline snowblower would be undersized for this task, If this is you, then there is no need to be triggered or threatened by electric snowblowers. They are not sized for your intended use, so quit getting triggered and running around in circles waving your arms in the air. It's hilarious how many commenters don't grasp that simple point and bend themselves into knots pointing out all the "flaws" that aren't really flaws at all. 3. The fool knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing. Yes, batteries cost money. Case in point, cordless power tool batteries. I spend hundreds of dollars more NOW per year replacing cordless tool batteries than I did 25 years ago because I wasn't using cordless tools to nearly the same extent. So am I complaining? Hell no. Because cordless tools bring WAY more value in terms of productive work done and the ease of doing it. I don't see anyone selling off their cordless tools and going back to extension cords. Sure, there's always going to be some guy in his garage saying heck no, I'm not going to buy any newfangled cordless drill, I'll stick with my extension cord and my 1980s Crapsman. Good for him. for the rest of us, sometimes spending more gets you more in terms of other things you value like the ease of use, speed, efficiency, etc. Cost versus value. The Toro isn't about the lowest cost, it's about bringing something that a certain segment of buyer values.

[@rightlanehog3151]

We will see how these hold up as the years go by. I think my Tecumseh 8 hp has another 25 years left in it. 😉

[@autoracer350]

Yep, I replaced the bearings and bushings in my 1973 Ariens two winters ago. Finally got decent snow this winter. It's definitely not as refined in the controls or as easy to steer. But I doubt electric will last half that long, especially the batteries.

[@percyfaith11]

2-3 years tops for the battery. The cost of a new battery will be outrageous.

[@speedway440]

I have a Powermaxx 1128 OXE with an 11 hp Tecumseh. It’s been a great machine! Hopefully the battery machine proves to be as good.

[@ralphmills7322]

I think it is a perfect solution for California where they legislate what power equipment everybody can use. Here in Maine I'll stick with my 2014 Huskee two stage snow blower for as long as I can buy gas and oil. Even with it's Powermore 208cc engine I still need to break up the snow pack the town plow leaves with a shovel.

[@SIUDR7202]

Thanks for the Video! Still not sold on it. I think it has its place but for those tuff heavy wet snow storms it may just not be enough. I’ll keep an open mind but for now I’m just wondering how long it will last. Currently I have an Ariens’s Platinum 30 that’s 25 years old. Although I am into maintaining my machine to the fullest I have not had to do any major maintenance on it. I only had to replace the belts. The pressure disk will have to be changed for next season this snowblower has never failed me even when we received 36” of snow in one storm!

[@haroldnelson3734]

Thanks for the demo. I just bought this model and will be using it this winter. I'll let you know how it does in the Oregon Cascades snow.

[@paultavares465]

I will stick with my carb machine 14 year's old and has never let me down just do your maintenance and it will keep going

[@unionbetty]

ive been thinking about one last yr i purchased a ego lawnmower last year still getting used to that, but did like your instruction to electric snowblowers

[@dewarner12]

I liked the video, and see lots of applications for electric tools. I currently have a Stihl electric pole saw that works great in that application. Based on this experience, I am guessing that the batteries for this snow blower are really expensive, have relatively long charging times, and and have restrictions about their shelf life. Depending on the cost, these snow blowers would seem to be best suited for warmer climates with moderate amounts of snow and relatively small areas to be cleared.

[@rk22cc]

sounds reasonable, not for the cold north

[@CarlMadsen]

The chute clear out tool has a slot for the tip as well, so it doesn't swing free. You put the tip in, then snap the top of the tool in. Nice and secure.

[@donyboy73]

it must have come loose

[@michaelotoole1807]

I've read some reviews of this machine in heavy snow and quite a few people fully regretted buying this very expensive blower $1,600.00 after the batteries crapped out way before finishing their driveways. Then having to wait until batteries are recharged only to crap out again before the driveway is cleared. Also the battery level indicator on TORO E24 electric motor doesn't show 50% remaining. It shows somewhere between 25% and 51%. And that's without tackling the packed snow berm at the end of the driveway that the snowplow gifts to us all. It looks fine for several inches of fluffy light snow but that's about it. On the video you can hear the machine struggle for a moment when it hit the deeper snow near your parked gas blowers. And when the batteries have to be replaced in several years [you recommended buying a third battery] 3 x $280.00 = $840.00 it will be more expensive than buying a new gas engine. which wouldn't happen for many years if at all if maintained properly. When you have 15 inches of heavy snow and your out there at 5am to clear driveway to leave by 6am to make you and your wife are not late for work this isn't gonna cut it. I'd rather sleep soundly at night knowing my machine can handle any amount of snow that may be piling up on my driveway light or heavy, than tossing and turning in my bed fearing how much snow is building up and whether its heavy or light and if the TORO E24 is up to the task. Although electric is the future we aren't there yet. I'll stick with my 1332 2003 Ariens and buy some replacement parts for future repairs before they become unavailable. 1 last criticism, why would they design the electric motor to be running while your not blowing snow? or moving around? Your just draining the batteries for no reason. I understand that you can easily turn the machine on and off but life doesn't work that way. you can run around for a moment or two to remove a branch or other objects in your path get distracted for any reason. The TORO E24 should have been redesigned to only run while drive handle or auger handle is engaged. The answer I think is that they just plopped a electric motor on a standard gas snow blower body and called it done. They didn't want to pay for complete redesign of the machine.

[@steveriggenbach90]

Thanks, great info. Looks impressive on fluffy snow. The batteries are a concern. Cost, manufacturing and NEVER charge when you aren’t there. Take care.

[@bobmcl2406]

Yeah, this proliferation of LiON batteries is going to catch out people who don't appreciate the dangers during recharging.

[@moonobservergilles5730]

thanks for sharing your views on this snowblower. I have a Ariens 32 '' professional snowblower it is a work horse but i might like to sell it and buy a good electric snoblower but maximum 28 inche so i can free space in my garage. I could leave it in my garden house in winter time and summer time . I appreciate you having made this video my entrance is long 200 feet long plus the front garage doors 2,500 square feet. so it takes a powerfull snoblower.

[@jamesyee4143]

Looks like a nice snow blower, but the big test would be heavy wet snow,thanks for that video!!!

[@gcenturion4230]

I use an AC powered mower and never worry about whether I’ll finish the lawn. My double driveway is shortish (10m) so I would consider an AC powered blower. Yes cords are a pain but less than dealing with batteries. Does the Toro have an option to run on AC (e.g when the batteries die doing the same job as you did today in 2-3 years)? My 30 YO Honda HS 55 track blower will hopefully out live me. Ottawa Ont. Good vid!!

[@WatsitTooyah]

You'll use a lot less battery on eco mode. Only reason to not use it is if you want to throw a bit farther. The 4 SOC lights are quite vague. Also kind of an unfair battery test after ramming it into the 2 foot wall of snow.

[@seansysig]

Thanks for sharing your professional opinion. My driveway is 380 feet long by 12 feet wide. Of late we’re getting more wet heavy snow and we’re at 1330’ above sea level.

[@heathwirt8919]

The electric Toro worked well, electric motors are quite powerful. Like all battery powered machines the amount of energy storage is always the limiting factor. The quite operation is in my opinion very desirable and makes me question why gasoline powered snowblowers don't have adequate muffler systems. Thanks for the video Donyboy.

[@rk22cc]

try a heavy deep snow and still tout batterys, often bad snow storms come with power outages, then what will you do heath boy?

[@heathwirt8919]

@@rk22cc I've never experienced a power outage during a snow storm but had one in an ice storm. We got 65 inches in December and the power stayed on. What do you think of that boy with the fake username?

[@rk22cc]

@@heathwirt8919 just a matter of time when you loose power with a snow storm,then what?

[@heathwirt8919]

@@rk22cc First you make sure to fully charge the batteries when a storm is coming. If the power goes out you start the generator to keep your furnace and other appliances running. Then recharge the batteries if there is more snow. This isn't rocket science. Hope this helps. :)

[@rk22cc]

@@heathwirt8919 what percentage of people have a generator?

[@594bolt]

How do the heated hand grips work? That's a must have for me.

[@Mechanicturfgear]

Very impressive . Always a nice weird to hear the work battery units are doing . Hopefully they will have saws , snippers , push mower and blower with the same battery plug in so you can use the batteries all year round . People are not usually great at maintaining batteries till in this case the next snow .

[@steveriggenbach90]

Good point, also limited company’s supplying batteries. Instead of cars waiting on chips….. snowblowers waiting on batteries. Just a thought.

[@Mechanicturfgear]

Extra things don’t have to be limited to lawn care . Circular saws . Drills etc .

[@steveriggenbach90]

@@Mechanicturfgear ford truck, I think at factory, the battery burst into flames.

[@Mechanicturfgear]

@@steveriggenbach90 I’ve seen pics of lithium golf carts burnt to almost nothing . Just 4 rims left . Odds are great but probably less than a loose fuel line or injectors. Also we already deal with possible “dangerous “ lithium batteries in cell phone .

[@dordoight3448]

How does it handle the big 3-4 foot snow storms we get in southern Ontario?

[@brianbanks3044]

Nice power, good cut...I think you should take a few swaths with the Toro and then do the same with your Ariens...see which one does the best...I have alot of EGO tools but still have my Ariens 9/26 machine because it just feels "tougher"...love electrics but what does the cold do to power output??....those are questions that will make people decide

[@hirampritchard5588]

I have been waiting to see this video following the unboxing. Thanks for sharing your experience with this machine. Living in the eastern part of Virginia snow blowers are a bit of a mystery to us. 🤔

[@ralphfraumeni6190]

I looked at the Toro E24 before buying the OTHER brand. I have a Toro 221 but I'm getting older and wanted something self propelled. The reason I didn't buy the Toro was exactly because it is a gas model with an electric motor. I didn't want to deal with the belts and friction disc maintenance. The other brand electric snowblowers all have direct drive motors for the wheels as well as the auger. I figured if your going to go electric you might as well go full bore. Unfortuntely I have had no snow since I bought(2 winters now) so it was a great investment?....🤣

[@rdumoulin1]

i like it, less fussing than my gas snowblower. but i'd prefer a wider bucket and less "toy like controls" and i love the way to move the chute. So how long can the batteries last in both light snow like you had in the driveway, and how long in all that packed snow in the backyard? But if you can , also in a snow plow bank in the driveway would be good to really round out the stats. Good vid, but the audio is very faint. my volume is at 100% (on compter and KZbin) and still very quiet. if you can bring the dB up to standard like 89dB that'd be great. Thank you for a cool video!

[@biggyboodles6458]

Hi Rene, we have the same model, but we've only gotten one snowfall in the capital district of upstate NY so far....but it did an amazing job, ran for 37 minutes before it warned me it had had enough....8 inches of wet snow no problems...the berm at the end of our driveway was about 20 inches, and it went through it like butter! Our driveway has about a 20-25 degree pitch as well..just over 1500sq ft including sidewalks. Hope this helps!

[@marksevigny1148]

Pretty good. Other then the batteries half chewed up power you would need more batteries to help the neighbors out or deeper snow

[@mikeholubek4419]

Technology needs to get better as in range and cost and safety of batteries. Eg: Lithium scooters are catching fire while charging. Could be just junk to begin with but it has gotten my attention. Anxiety would be getting ½ way done and run out of juice, take batteries out let warm up then charge and get dressed back up head out to find machine buried from snow coming off roofs into dway. Thanks for the in use video though which I find to be a truthful start to finish use. Like someone else said basically this is for a targeted buyer who really shouldn't have ICE anything.

[@petekovacevic3241]

I realy like the way the chute adjusts

[@xoxo2008oxox]

Something odd...it seems to feed back into the auger from the chute? is that some anti-clogging feature? You see it from you tripod camera view.

[@kjell-richardlvdal373]

Great machine, love the Quick stick on Toro best on the market

[@byronwoolfrey1039]

Thanks Don, you are always honest in your evaluations on things. Have been waiting for a demonstration of an electric snowblower, thanks. Foghornleghorn here says it all. Like any battery operated tool, as time goes by the amount of time you get out of the batteries gets shorter and shorter. I guess a lot of us could write books on their experiences with battery operated tools stopped just before you get the job done. While there isn't as much work getting started, batteries do require work. Like making sure they are fully charged so you don't go out to use the machine just to discover they aren't charged enough to do the job. To that good advice is (DON'T SELL YOUR GAS SNOWBLOWER). You'll need it to finish the job. As for electric being the way of the future. If everything went electric the system couldn't produce enough power to drive it all. The world is turning to hydrogen. Edmonton Starting their city bus line. Germany is even developing an aeroplane to run on it. Here my province is getting ready to produce hydrogen for Germany You can just fill up your tank like now with gasoline, but with environmentally friendlyhydrogen, and endlesssupply. Sorry so long Don

[@rickharper994]

I HAVE A 6.5HP BRIGGS AND STRATTON PRESSURE WASHER. I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THE PUMP OIL. WHAT KIND DO YOU RECCOMEND AND HOW MUCH WOULD I USE TO REPLACE WHAT IS THERE

[@DavesSmallEngines]

Excellent video. I fear this is the beginning of the end for gas-powered small equipment.

[@100vg]

Other factors to compare battery electric to gas/petrol devices are cost and runtime. How much do 2 and 3 batteries cost, plus the number of chargers needed to have them all ready when needed at the same time, plus the cost of the snowblower itself compared to gas/petrol? Battery electric devices always cost nearly double if not more, especially when batteries and chargers are not including with the device as a package purchase. Needing extra batteries and chargers over what's in the package and especially when not included just make the device that much more expensive, plus you're paying for the electricity to charge them. The cost of charging is usually not considered, but it's there! Tally all of that, including the fuel (electricity), and compare it to an equivalent gas/petrol device purchase and its operation. Speaking of operation, then there's performance and runtime. You have only 2 bars of charge left after this relatively brief, light duty use, meaning the 2 batteries were discharged approximately 50%. How much difference can the 3rd battery really make? And how much more does it cost, especially if another charger is needed for that? Now imaging blowing all of the snow from your recent-past snow-blowing videos in its packed density and height and make an estimate of how long the same 2 batteries may have lasted during that extensive, intense-performance work. To me, most battery operated devices and not worth it because of the much higher cost for a greatly limited runtime. You've shown that performance is similar, but not runtime. Not even close. I have a battery pack drill and heavy duty impact wrench, but things like lawnmowers, leaf blowers and anything of size in comparison, including this snowblower, cost too much more for a drastically limited use time in comparison. The tradeoff has negative returns, in more ways than one. This "Green" movement will not save the planet when you consider everything throughout product inception to use to end of life. Mining and processing the lithium and other battery elements, like cobalt, is dangerous and hazardous, processing the elements as well, and both are fossil fuel intensive, and purchase and use are expensive only to offer limited performance. Then there's all the pollution from discarded battery packs and their ability to explode in a landfill. Li-Ion batteries still have enough energy stored at end of life, even a considered zero charge, to explode if the terminals are shorted, which could easily happen in a landfill in several scenarios. Battery packs *_can_* be recycled by disassembly and extracting the elements for reuse, but it's not cost efficient, so they'll all end up in landfills. I fully understand reviewing these devices, but the full picture isn't known or comprehended by most end user purchasers until after the purchase and use because they do not research the whole process and compare it gas/petrol or corded AC-powered when available in equivalent devices. Once realized, one will never recoup the invested money by selling the device to go gas/petrol or AC-powered again. Consider buying a BEV vehicle, or any vehicle. The vehicle drastically drops in value the second it's driven off the lot. Then once a replacement battery pack is needed, it will cost more than the vehicle is worth. As far as I'm concerned, as are many as witnessed in videos, this scenario plays out with many battery-powered devices, especially as they get larger and require more power to operate. I'm not bashing you, Don, just the products. This video might wake up some of the sheeple who just go with the flow. It may be impressive, for what it is, but at what total cost?

[@roogermoore1]

I’ll wait a few more years. Great demo and I’ll look for an update then. Keep em coming and thanks

[@lukem7203]

Considering how much $ is invested in batteries for a snow blower like this it would be interesting to do a follow up review in 3-4 years to see how well the batteries hold up. No doubt the snow blower itself is top quality just worry about the substantial battery investment.

[@eosjoe565]

True, especially if you don't have other Toro 60V outdoor power equipment

[@milfordcivic6755]

The reason why these will sell is because most people do not want to deal with gas machines or don't want to pay for the yearly maintenance upkeep of bringing it to a shop. Electric requires no gas cans and no checking of motor oil. However, the initial cost of the machine and replacement batteries (if they don't get obsoleted by Toro) just isn't worth the risk for me. Everyone's needs are different.

[@roberthamilton9123]

hi 👋 Don for a battery 🔋 powered machine it’s cleaning up quite nicely sir with two batteries you don’t need to stop & recharge as often because if one dies you still have the other to be able to get the job done ✔️ brother nice 👍 video & thanks 🙏 for sharing sir 👍👍

[@skyemac8]

Since I have two other Toro 60v tools this looks like an option. Thanks for the review.

[@jakeschisler7525]

I don't need a snow blower where I live but been wanting to buy a new chainsaw and now thinking about a battery one. I don't have much to cut but when I do I want something to be there when I need it. Been looking at a husqvarna 350 with a 18 inch bar, not sure if that would be better than buying a new stihl 250 or bigger and some people say they have trouble starting them. I own a 170 which sometimes gives me a headache starting it and worse when it runs to empty. Hard to get it started again. Need some thoughts

[@donyboy73]

I would buy the Milwaukee chainsaw

[@ericclark8258]

Thats is impressive, its the way of the future. Yes here in Ontario we can get alot of snow so the maximum batteries is a great suggestion. Thanks for the example of this equipment actually working

[@percyfaith11]

No future unless they can improve the service life of batteries and the power.

[@eosjoe565]

I noticed the wheels seemed to spin easily when you were in the deep stuff. Does this machine weigh a lot less than an equivalent engine powered machine? Does Toro support the use of tire chains?

[@maitajack]

I live in Montreal and we have a lot of heavy wet snow. I own a Ariens for many years and it has no problem with that kind of heavy work since I have to blow the snow twice because my driveway is confine between two houses has usual in city environment. I really wonder if the battery powered Toro will do the job with only two or even three VERY OUTRAGES EXPENSIVE batteries. Let us know what you think in that fairly common senario. Many thanks.

[@LL-mt2nz]

It only makes sense if you have the lawnmower also. That’s is the most cost effective way of getting another battery.

[@barney1941]

do you still recommend the force tec cylinder kit for stihl 026? or is it worth it to pay more for the meteor kit? thanks for the great videos

[@donyboy73]

THE Meteor are better

[@captainover-tighten6729]

Lol you can tell who has a gravel driveway! How’s the vinyl siding holding up? Thanks Don.

[@donyboy73]

very good!

[@kkovler1]

nice, but I need a snow maker before I need the blower

[@cgrscott]

Nice. More quiet.

[@fullraph]

I swear my old 8HP craftsman wouldn't have done this good a job!

[@shotgunsnmudmowers8167]

I like how they just stuffed a electric motor on what would be a gas unit. Looks super simple to swap a gas engine onto it when the electric motor inevitably has expensive issues.

[@swaggerjacker1482]

I would love to have a driveway like that to snow blow. Mine takes about 3 minutes to do

[@fairgolfer]

I would wonder about the batteries sitting all spring, summer and fall , if I didn't have a lawn mower that used the same batteries.

[@bjornsparf271]

Asked on the last video but can you change out the gas engine to this electric motor on other Toro blowers?

[@harrylafountain3569]

Nice...traction seemed good...so what's it weigh in at?

[@tonyc6116]

Can’t wait to see you move 6-10 inches of wet snow.

[@donmayberryjrsOPE]

Great show Dony and they look impressive!

[@tonypapageorgiou4622]

Hello I have an older 1028 powermax toro blower and when in drive right wheel does not rotate like the left what is wrong?

[@garyalensr]

Ok it is pretty impressive, however... I just don't like the fact that they're forcing us to go battery powered in years to come!! I feel if we want to stay using our gas equipment we shouldn't be pressured into switching to this. I, and I'm sure I'm not alone enjoy using my gas powered equipment. On another note great video as always Don. I really enjoy your content.

[@barrylee.freedman2203]

While I’m all on board with Dewalt Cordless Tools I’m not there with outdoor power equipment. No one dealer offers a complete range of top rated choices and I’m no going to be tied to multiple brands of batteries and chargers. Additionally I believe it just shifts the environmental burden from air to earth due to mining and processing of raw materials including life ending effects on animals.

[@hanmaan]

Have you tried any of the other electric two stage snowblowers? What made you choose this over them?

[@biggyboodles6458]

In December my wife and I were looking at this and the Ego 2 stage.... even though we have an ego mower that's beens flawless going into year 5, we chose the Toro.... because it's mechanically identical to the gas units, with eh gas engine deleted, and replaced with the electric motor... Eco has separate drive motors for the wheels, which to me is one more electrified item to keep an eye on, along with quite a few reports of shear pins breaking easily (toro has no shear pins)...which brings us to repairs/service.... the Toro units can be taken to any toro retailer or Toro service center for work, Ego does not have that type of service network established as of yet. Hope this helps!

[@Jamwcjconn]

Great video, just wondering the longevity of the battery and how much they cost

[@steveartese9014]

I just read the reviews on this model on Home Depot Canada, and everyone says the battery life only lasts about 20 mins and they say to stick to gas.

[@Fredlocal80]

I have the three batts. machine struggles in med wet snow. 2800 sq. ft of drive. 5-6 inches of snow. cannot use full width of blower in heavy parts. does not have the power of my old gas blower. batts. and blower kept in heated basement (walkout). nice not to have to use gas. but should have bought more powerful gas unit. but stuck with this.

[@Blondiedaurie]

Hi Don Can you add hand warmer grips,to toro e24 snower blower.

[@WatsitTooyah]

Its only built into the e26. But sure it could be DIY fabricobbled.

[@chex7979]

Hello, can this machine make left and right turns on the spot? Thanks

[@donyboy73]

This one doesn't have easy steering

[@jgrove111]

That things awesome!

[@donyboy73]

Thank you for your support!

[@davidgoettel1381]

Good luck finding the third battery. No one , even Toro has them. The P/N 137-9447 is listed as N/A. The charger by itself is $110.00 US I can only imagine what the battery will cost when it becomes available

[@bobw9915]

In stock at Home Depot now. $295.

[@josephpuchel6497]

Hey It looks impressive but not convinced it make it with heavy deep snow. Plus $350 a piece battery X 3 = $1050 . That’s price of nice gas machine

[@MrSeanyboy38]

Great video and info, as always!

[@Longtrailside]

If it came out 3 years ago i would have bought this instead of my largs craftsman snowblower.

[@deanmoore420]

Actually, it surprised me didn’t do bad 👍

[@rossrossier935]

Great video Donnie, we need more like these, jury still out

[@rossrossier935]

On decision!

[@donyboy73]

Time will tell!

[@wdhewson]

Cost of new batteries two or three years down the road ??

[@appleztooranges]

Think Honda will make battery snowblowers?

[@hoover1412]

If they do they’ll be $5,000 plus considering how expensive their gas ones are

[@appleztooranges]

@@hoover1412 I just bought a gas one. $3950. No snow

[@Tommyr]

Yes and like everything else they sell they will be overpriced.

[@appleztooranges]

@@Tommyr quality. Remember you get what you pay for.

[@12wingwfetech]

Honda makes a battery powered snow blower

[@gadasavideos8564]

Are they like riding mower batteries that have to be always on a charger.

[@WatsitTooyah]

No in fact thats bad for the lifespan of these lithium cells.

[@gadasavideos8564]

@Watsit Tooyah wonder what ariens was using for their riders about 10 years ago. Had to keep it plugged in all winter or batteries would fail.

[@WatsitTooyah]

@@gadasavideos8564 My guess would be Nickel-Metal hydride. Or lead acid.

[@jimyeske8498]

In the deep stuff, it struggled a bit. Sounded like it had about 4 HP.

[@martyleary4131]

Gotta ask… wonder how long the lithium batteries last? I have had poor luck with my green works hedge trimmer/ blower combo. Three batteries in two years at 60 bucks each. They just stop charging

[@hoover1412]

The batteries will probably last 5 years especially in a snowblower where it’s not used for 8 months of the year. Replacement batteries are $350 each.

[@Tommyr]

They need to switch to LiFePo4 batteries, 10 year lifespan and much safer.

[@Tommyr]

@@hoover1412 Yeah, that's insane.

[@TheTronder007]

Is the snow-blower really as quiet as you think Don? At my old apartment I had a Stiga Electric snow-blower (single-stage) not battey-powered, but with an extension-cord.. I realise that this is a slightly different "beast" sort of speak, but I thought it was fairly quiet, but one day after coming home from work late one evening (somewhere between eleven and midnight) and had to clear the snow from my drive as I did not want to risk parking in the underground car park as the drive was relatively steep and with a 90 degree bend, i decided to use the snow-blower as I regarded it as relatively quiet.. anyway when my neighbour rang by door-bell the following day she was furious, their bedroom was facing my drive on the other side on the other side of the road.. and I had kept them awake, she was also angry with me for previous "incidents" which she newer brought to my attention before that day.. 😅

[@mikeholubek4419]

Hand Karen a couple of middle and check back tomorrow.

[@TheTronder007]

@@mikeholubek4419 Wish I had thought about that at the time 😂 It's not that I would use a snow-blower of any kind late at night for the fun of it ( I don't think to many of us would) Happily since then She has moved and and I have moved... luckily not to the same place 🤣🤣 And at my current place I'm so close to work that I can walk or outside of the winter season use an e-bike to and from work, so no hassles with snow coming home from a late shift at work. The only time I really need to deal with snow is at my dad's home place in the countryside which we have as a weekend/holiday home, noting to fancy but a nice getaway from city-life, we can blow snow or cut the lawn and other stuff without bothering the neighbours 😀

[@TheOtherBill]

Did you buy this machine or did they give it to you to review?

[@PatHiggins-Mayo]

Game over Donny.. U can retire now 😁 Very impressive. Batteries are the future

[@zyplex1]

Machine does an awesome job, but the batteries might be an issue, unless you purchase 4 and have 2 on the charger ready to go for when the 2 in the machine to discharge, ill stick with my gas one.Find its more convenient .

[@stewy4158]

Best video 👍

[@GmGarlo]

i will stick to my gas engines, just for the fact that you had your batteries down to half power with such light snow and straight forward driveway is not going to cut it for me, because i have to clear 4 times that much and when we get our crazy canadian snowstorms ,GOOD LUCK PEOPLE!!

[@the_mowron]

Also: This cost $1500 compared to $1000 for the Toro 24 inch with 212cc engine. I don't see why you would go with the battery power.

[@Thomasploeg1968]

They want you to buy extra batteries

[@hoover1412]

@@the_mowron and you’ll need to replace those batteries in 5 years at $350 plus tax each. After initial purchase of a gas machine, you’re buying gas and a quart of oil each year. On a battery machine you’re still buying electricity which is as expensive as gas especially where the machine used 1/2 it’s batteries for a small 5” of light snow. If the batteries last 5 years a battery machine will cost $1500 plus tax plus electricity to charge batteries, $700 plus tax at the 5 year mark for new batteries. So the battery machine is $2200 plus tax at 10 years and probably needs $700 more in batteries for the 10 year old machine (who knows how the electric motor and electronics will be at that point. With a gas machine you have the cost of the machine which will probably be $1000-$1200 plus tax, then the cost of a quart of oil each year. At 10 years old the gas machine will have cost $1050-$1250 compared to over $2200 and probably needing $700 in new batteries. No one with a brain will be happy with a battery machine. And how can people with large driveways or commercial users use a battery machine? Are people supposed to buy 6 extra batteries? Like electric cars, any equipment except smaller things like weedwackers, have huge issues with cost and range.

[@Pete.Ty1]

👍👍👍 Thank you

[@johnmilner7603]

That blower cutter isn’t that wide. Looks like 20”.

[@74stevedc]

Do you work on electric power stuff or do you have to bring it to a electrical engineer 😉.