Gunze Mr Airbrush PS-770 Review

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Doogs Models

Doogs Models

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@davidcrosby7219
@davidcrosby7219 7 жыл бұрын
A good review of a lovely airbrush. Mine came from Japan a couple of weeks ago, unfortunately it got import duty slapped on it but it was still a good saving. I've got a very early Iwata (from when they came in a wooden box covered in black plastic leather), an original Kodak Aztek (as well as a couple of the Testors versions), some cheap Chinese brushes, a Badger Krome, H&S Evolution and an Infinity, plus Gunze's PS290 fan spray. In the past I had a badger 200, DeVilbiss Sprite and a Super 63, so a fair amount of experience with different airbrushes. And every one is fitted with a quick release coupling, the end of the hose has an Iwata inline filter/water trap as well as the female quick release coupling. Having that little lot under the airbrush gives something to hold onto very firmly. Paints from Humbrol, Testors, Revell, Ammo, AK, Vallejo, Gunze, Tamiya, MRP and recently MMP. So how do they stack up? It's horses for courses, different brushes for different jobs. PS290 hands down for primers and large areas such as 1/32 model aircraft base coats. A cheap no name Chinese 0.3 set up for everyday quick spraying. Then for fine, smooth, reliable I-Can-Do-This work, it's a toss up between the Infinity, the Krome and the PS 770. The thing is, I've got hands like shovels and I tend to favour the larger brushes just because they handle better for me, so it's the Krome and the PS 770. I had a friend come over the other evening to play with the Silhouette Mask Cutter and I suggested a blast with the airbrushes (he's in the market for an upgrade) and use some MMP. He was a bit reticent but once he started playing he was blown away by the versatility of the MMP paint and the airbrushes, definitely liked the PS 770! I had a hard time getting him off the spraying. I give the PS 770 a huge thumbs up. It is so versatile, so predictable, it feels bulletproof. Try it with MRP lacquer or MMP acrylics, you will be amazed. Once again, thanks for a superb review. Bruce Crosby
@TacticalJackalope
@TacticalJackalope 6 жыл бұрын
You may already be aware but the Japanese OEM B.B. Rich/Rich Pen makes Iwata, Procon & Tamiya airbrushes.
@PENFOLD1962
@PENFOLD1962 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting very interesting, this is the second Review about this airgun and both reviewers LOVE IT! A really good video... THUMBS UP ALL DAY LONG 👍😊👍
@rawdio.docdar5715
@rawdio.docdar5715 7 жыл бұрын
just got the mr. hobby .18 micron. absolutly amazing performance. it is a custom micron with different clothes at half the price. did have to pay duty to postman $56.00. but still very much worth it. total cost 348. from ebay. product from japan and shipped to south ontario. Thankyou Doogs models for the great review. peace
@DoogsModels
@DoogsModels 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you're liking it!
@RobByeArmourinScale
@RobByeArmourinScale 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this review Matt. I've seen this airbrush, and I did consider getting one, but went with an Olympos Micron instead. Hearing that the Mr. Hobby airbrush is that much heavier and bulky makes me glad I made the choice I did. Still, you have to hand it to these guys, the look of their airbrush makes it stand out from the crowd. Thanks again.
@wezrauk
@wezrauk 7 жыл бұрын
I think I read once that the gsi creos and tamiya airbrush ranges were once manufactured by iwata themselves, goes back to the bb rich company days. Might well still be the case, gsi were always unavailable outside of Japan but that's changed massively here in the U.K. In the last 6 months with nearly every product of theirs being readily available domestically. Great review, tempted now 😀
@oscarruf4260
@oscarruf4260 7 жыл бұрын
Very helpful review Matt. I'm more than convinced now that it's time to give a try one of those P770 myself. Your graphic test says it all! Cheers from Chile mate!
@JuanAdam12
@JuanAdam12 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to do this in-depth review.
@peterecos634
@peterecos634 4 жыл бұрын
To me, it seemed like you were getting slightly better, more precise finer lines with the PS770 than the Micron. What are your thoughts 4 years later? I find very hard to justify plunging 450+ on a new Micron than $250 for the 770. I want to do those damn squiggly WWII Italian cammo jobs, none of my current AB can do it.
@rawdio.docdar5715
@rawdio.docdar5715 7 жыл бұрын
thankyou for the excellent review, you covered all. Just ordered one.
@TheEvilCarrot
@TheEvilCarrot 7 жыл бұрын
Came to look at the comparison and learned some new stuff about airbrushing as well, great vid! :)
@kamui004
@kamui004 3 жыл бұрын
29:40 Instead of Porsche, that's exactly what the Lambo Gallardo and Audio R8 were. All three companies under the VW group, the Gallardo and R8 shared engine and other things under the hood but the rest and final assembly in their own respective plants, while the Lambo cost twice as much as the R8. And as other mentioned Iwata, Gunze and Tamiya's airbrushes are manufactured by the same company.
@GrumpyModeler
@GrumpyModeler 6 жыл бұрын
Just got through watching. Just curious, have you tried swapping the spray heads out?
@rikujkoivisto
@rikujkoivisto 6 жыл бұрын
Hi! That "stupid" window present the needle o-ring tightening adjusment screw. O-ring block fluid comes packward. Thank you for really good review!! 😄
@renlelong9
@renlelong9 7 жыл бұрын
I read a piece written by a guy who researched where iwatas were made. It transpires that Iwata do not manufacture their airbrushes. All airbrushes in Japan come from the same factory and that includes gsi creos as well as tamiya.
@xxbabaxx12
@xxbabaxx12 5 жыл бұрын
armourinscale.wordpress.com/2016/08/18/demystifying-japans-airbrush-industry/ Here you go
@SoulDogTatznAir
@SoulDogTatznAir 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for good info on that airbrush! much appreciated!
@yuzik8579
@yuzik8579 6 жыл бұрын
I hear that Gunze is Iwata's OEM. Tamiya, Wave, Olympos are BB Rich(Hokushin Seiki)OEM.
@xxbabaxx12
@xxbabaxx12 5 жыл бұрын
Fuso Seiki is the oem for all of them actually. Iwata bought the design and manufacturing right from olympos in the 80s, while richpen(fuso seiki) was making pens for olympos and they still do to this day only instead of olympos printed on the pen its iwata. Also most tamiya and low end iwata have their pens made in china/ taiwan (sparmax being one of the oem)
@GilVincent
@GilVincent 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Matt! I know this is from a year ago, but it was very helpful and informative. Your "tests" and comparisons are really well done - laid out to do direct and meaningful testing and comparisons. Many folks don't do well thought out testing or comparisons. BTW - your black basing series was incredible and the best coverage on the topic.
@axlbjorn3952
@axlbjorn3952 3 жыл бұрын
I know Im asking the wrong place but does anyone know a trick to log back into an instagram account..? I stupidly forgot the account password. I love any assistance you can give me!
@matthewthaddeus6673
@matthewthaddeus6673 3 жыл бұрын
@Axl Bjorn instablaster =)
@axlbjorn3952
@axlbjorn3952 3 жыл бұрын
@Matthew Thaddeus Thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site through google and I'm in the hacking process now. Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will reply here later with my results.
@axlbjorn3952
@axlbjorn3952 3 жыл бұрын
@Matthew Thaddeus it worked and I actually got access to my account again. I am so happy:D Thank you so much you really help me out :D
@matthewthaddeus6673
@matthewthaddeus6673 3 жыл бұрын
@Axl Bjorn glad I could help :)
@herculeholmes504
@herculeholmes504 3 жыл бұрын
Thankyou for a VERY helpful review. I don't think I need an airbrush that fine yet, I'm still mainly using a cheap 0.3mm airbrush and I've already got an old Badger 100-C (I think it has a 0.2mm needle?) which I haven't really even used yet. But now I'm wondering if there's a bargain-priced Mr Airbrush in 0.3mm size to replace my current KKMoon airbrush.
@DoogsModels
@DoogsModels 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Gunze has a whole lineup of airbrushes. You probably want the PS-274. spraygunner.com/gsi-creos-mr-airbrush-procon-boy-ps-274-0-3mm/
@radimduka8030
@radimduka8030 5 жыл бұрын
Very good rewiew! I will buy one. Somebody know about spare parts, o-rings , needle, nozzle. Where Is IT possible to buy in EU?
@garycarver3694
@garycarver3694 2 жыл бұрын
I use the custom micron b and it's my favorite airbrush I think it's the best airbrush in the world personally and I do a lot of painting custom car work portraits canvas work illustration board that kind of thing and really really do like the microns but I have a critique for you about your KZbin channel you don't have to use foul language you're intelligent man and I'm quite sure a very nice guy but you don't have to use that foul language may the Lord Jesus Christ bless you and your endeavor to help people to understand airbrushing I taught for about 15 years or so and I never let a beginner start out with a micron too sensitive of an airbrush for a beginner but I've used several different types of airbrushes anything from a Vega to passe airbrushes and I've even tested some of the knockoffs and cheap ones but anyway thank you for your helping people understand about airbrushes May the living Lord Jesus Christ bless you
@leew8812
@leew8812 2 жыл бұрын
There's absolutely nothing wrong with his language.
@xxbabaxx12
@xxbabaxx12 5 жыл бұрын
Essentially all airbrush “made in japan” are done by richpen and their parent company, Fuso Seiki. Iwata, mrhobby, olympos, wave etc all slap their name on richpen’s brushes. This apply strictly to made in japan only brush (exp: iwata neo is made in china, only the micron is strictly a japan product). More information in this blog, very detailed research. armourinscale.wordpress.com/2016/08/18/demystifying-japans-airbrush-industry/
@infinitesimotel
@infinitesimotel 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I will read and comment.
@douglassmith5833
@douglassmith5833 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Matt! I need your help, please. Where is full open (how many turns from full closed) on the MAC valve? Also, have you had to replace the needle on this airbrush yet? I've got an Iwata 0.18 in mine now, which works, but I was wondering if you had some experience/opinions. I can't seem to find a needle from the original manufacturer. That would be the best. The Iwata needle works for me, but is really too short.
@messer1096
@messer1096 7 жыл бұрын
Is there much overspray with these kind of quality airbrushes? I've been trying to do mottling with an Eclipse (.3mm) and the overspray can spoil the effect. Could be my fault, of course.
@DoogsModels
@DoogsModels 7 жыл бұрын
Not really, no. Certainly less than with the Eclipse (which feels like a firehose by comparison)
@NazidKimmie
@NazidKimmie 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, I was looking at this one but tossing up between it and the Sotar - but I like this one! Great review
@guglegulag
@guglegulag 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review! You tested if the air caps are compatible, but did you ever get around to swapping the nozzles also? Secondly, is 0.18mm the only size available for the 770? I looked at their website and can't even find spare parts. Thank you again for the review.
@DoogsModels
@DoogsModels 4 жыл бұрын
They are compatible. Spraygunner.com stocks GSI parts. I imagine if you wanted to you could swap in the 0.2mm head and needle from at CM-C...
@saxmonster78
@saxmonster78 7 жыл бұрын
great video tjanks...you mentioned your tomcat build..are you doing a build video? or are there any pics?..thanks
@andyvan5692
@andyvan5692 6 жыл бұрын
interesting comparison, but that screw on the iwata custom, i think is a lock screw for the inner guide tube for the needle.
@ngadinomore
@ngadinomore 5 жыл бұрын
I want it one
@xaviercarcopino5417
@xaviercarcopino5417 4 жыл бұрын
After months of use, what is your opinion regarding the Mac valve?
@angrywargamer8836
@angrywargamer8836 3 жыл бұрын
Mr hobby has trigger adjustment too and it is a superior one
@xenophonBC
@xenophonBC 3 жыл бұрын
I got one because of this video.
@stappan1752
@stappan1752 2 жыл бұрын
I have a custom micron and I do believe the 77 I just purchased is as good as a custom Micron end is much cheaper than the IwataAnd I definitely would purchase the master airbrush custom grade oh 018
@messer1096
@messer1096 7 жыл бұрын
Do they have the same needle? I'm tempted to buy the ps770, but where can buy another needle, if I needed it?
@messer1096
@messer1096 7 жыл бұрын
Okay, I see a source below.
@mikes1031
@mikes1031 5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to know if you sprayed that primer straight out of the bottle or did you reduce it ? Most people don't spray primer through a 0.18 needle, let alone primer without reduction of some kind. How much / what percentage did you reduce, if any ?
@DoogsModels
@DoogsModels 5 жыл бұрын
It's not a primer. It's paint that's the color of the primer used on things like the F-22
@NazidKimmie
@NazidKimmie 7 жыл бұрын
I have the PS 290 for priming etc.. its fantastic, so might complete my set with thing
@xenophonBC
@xenophonBC 3 жыл бұрын
romans used to train new recruits with gladius, that were heavier, than an actual gladius.
@billray7703
@billray7703 7 жыл бұрын
What a great review thank you
@hreple
@hreple 7 жыл бұрын
Is the trigger feel and non-linearity just like Iwata? What I love about iwatas are the non-linear paint delivery when you pull the trigger. Starts out really light and then comes along as you keep pulling. My HS infinity sadly isn't like that. I'd gladly spend more on the iwata "feel" if that's not present in the mr hobby
@DoogsModels
@DoogsModels 7 жыл бұрын
See - I would say that Iwata has a definitely linear feel - paint delivery ramps up in an utterly predictable fashion. I've found that Harder & Steenbeck and Grex are similar, but don't have the same trigger feel (and H&S is super-prone to spitting when the needle is seated). As for trigger feel - the PS-770 is a tiny bit lighter, probably due to the lack of that tensioning screw, but feel is very close to the Custom Micron.
@leeenzo2292
@leeenzo2292 7 жыл бұрын
gsi contracts out the production of airbrush to iwata, that's why the resemblance, part of these 2 brands actually interchangeable, try comparing this guy with cmc plus, they look like twin brothers, well, except something like the window, the matt looking, the color of the pre-set dial and so on.
@xxbabaxx12
@xxbabaxx12 5 жыл бұрын
Close except iwata also contract out their brushes. To richpen armourinscale.wordpress.com/2016/08/18/demystifying-japans-airbrush-industry/
@Scarebus_Driver
@Scarebus_Driver 5 жыл бұрын
Great review well done..
@jonathanbryon4554
@jonathanbryon4554 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. Just out of interest, what ballpark PSI are you spraying at with the CM-B? Thanks.
@DoogsModels
@DoogsModels 7 жыл бұрын
Somewhere in the 10-12 range
@jonathanbryon4554
@jonathanbryon4554 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant; thanks. Jon
@fruibal123
@fruibal123 6 жыл бұрын
You got ripped off, at $250, check at www.sprayguner.com, they sell at $200.good review of the PSD-770!!! and drop the cursing man!
@LabRat6619
@LabRat6619 4 жыл бұрын
Nice honest video
@foxmulderms
@foxmulderms 7 жыл бұрын
So did you @Doogs' (or anyone else) try iwata 0.18mm needle as replacement? Did it fit? Are they identical? I am blown away with this airbrush!!! I have been using iwata HP-CH and really liked it a lot but the marbling effect I can get out of it was not that great (my fault, I know). That is why I wanted to give this one a go since it is supposed to be "iwata micron level". Now, I do not have micron or tried one ever but this PS-770 airbrush is definitely much better airbrush in my hands than the HP-CH has been. I am in *love. :)* It has a much finer and smoother spray.
@douglassmith5833
@douglassmith5833 7 жыл бұрын
I dropped my brand new PS-770 on its needle very quickly and had to replace it. Good luck finding OEM (?) needle. I have the Iwata 0.18 mm needle now and it works, but is way too short. It was difficult to install and I haven't removed it since. BTW, this airbrush is sweetness indeed. It is small and smooth. Very precise feel. I like the size and weight. I wish I read Japanese, since the documentation is minimal.
@foxmulderms
@foxmulderms 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info! So when you check the geometry of the needles at the tip can you tell one from another? I guess there isn't much choice anyway but wonder.
@douglassmith5833
@douglassmith5833 7 жыл бұрын
I will do that. I am interested, too. But not until I absolutely need to, so I don't know when that will be. I'll respond here.
@foxmulderms
@foxmulderms 7 жыл бұрын
sounds good, please do so I can order one myself. I realized there are two types of micron airbrushes and needles though. Catolog numbers are 5401 and 5404. 5404 being the version 2 needle. Which one did you buy, do you have any idea?
@foxmulderms
@foxmulderms 6 жыл бұрын
any update?
@tonymartinez3434
@tonymartinez3434 5 жыл бұрын
Have you used it for acrylic s?
@renlelong9
@renlelong9 7 жыл бұрын
Here is the reference if anybody's interested: armourinscale.wordpress.com/2016/08/18/demystifying-japans-airbrush-industry/
@Kabul81
@Kabul81 6 жыл бұрын
MAC-V?😳 Jman👀
@billwelch2842
@billwelch2842 7 жыл бұрын
The price on Amazon is now up to S230.00 but Hobby Link Japan has it at $208.00 today: hlj.com/product/GNZPS-770
@daviddasilva8368
@daviddasilva8368 7 жыл бұрын
Fuckin eh! Picked one up. Good review Matt.
@spisi695
@spisi695 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but with such compressor operation and without large air storage so constant pressure you can not draw firm conclusions for the airbrushes and this is not fair
@DoogsModels
@DoogsModels 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry but I've been running this airbrush on a tanked compressor for 4 years and my take stands. Furthermore, changes in temperature and humidity make a FAR bigger difference in spray performance than having a tank.
@infinitesimotel
@infinitesimotel 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting comment you make about the cars, because that is exactly what they are doing with cars, that this company is doing with airbrushes. Lamborghini is owned by Audi and Ferrari is owned by Fiat. So you are getting a Fiat with a Ferrari label on it and so on. Same with electronics they are all made by Samsung, i.e. Apple iPhone is a Samsung in a different bra and heels. Same with clothes. We are the dupes that fall for the brand nonsense, because it is plain economics at the core of it. Make all the shit in the same place, and give different labels to the quality grades: the good stuff gets all the sexy labels, the shit gets all the budget store labels. LG is Sony, Lexus is Toyota.... the consumers are morons that have to take what they are given....
@lucferrari3109
@lucferrari3109 6 жыл бұрын
I got me one after i watched your review for 188 € at Amazon.de..... lets hope i am not gone regret it
@mariototsi5987
@mariototsi5987 6 жыл бұрын
Hey! I was looking for this airbrush on amazon germany, but could not find anything similar. I think they're all import directly from Japan?
@coolkids2064
@coolkids2064 6 жыл бұрын
@@mariototsi5987 buy it from spraygunner.com here in the usa. I think they even speak german. Here is a link to the website hope it helps. Ther're customer service is great. They are located in florida USA and i think they ship internationally. I bought a Harder & Steenbeck INFINITY CR 2 in 1 0.15 + 0.4mm from them. spraygunner.com/gsi-creos-mr-airbrush-custom-0-18mm-ps-770/
@michaelbroek1
@michaelbroek1 4 жыл бұрын
F..k f..k love it
@jeffleblanc8850
@jeffleblanc8850 6 жыл бұрын
They stole Iwata design for sure I would say looks like the custom of ken figures it is his stolen design he will sue them I imagine maybe they have a deal with Iwata but can’t see it although the neo is not made by Iwata
@xxbabaxx12
@xxbabaxx12 5 жыл бұрын
Actually iswata bought their design from Olympos in the 80s, and like all japan airbrush company they all sources their manufacturing from Richpen/Fuso Seiki. Iwata dont actually have a airbrush manufacturing facility so doesnt any of the other japanese hobbybrand, all sourced from Richpen (tho iwata does have the design rights of the original micron).
@Armyinscale
@Armyinscale 7 жыл бұрын
Like! +
@patrickstack5185
@patrickstack5185 3 жыл бұрын
The positive side of your informational video should stand alone, as helpful and useful. Your foul language does not add anything beneficial, which detracts from whatever positive content you intended to offer. I wanted to learn about this airbrush, I already know how to curse, but refrain from it personally. Just saying.
@DoogsModels
@DoogsModels 3 жыл бұрын
The positive side of your comment should stand alone, as helpful and useful. Your rude presumption to think you get to have any fucking place to tell me how to run my own channel does not add anything beneficial, which detracts from the faint whisper of positive content you intended to offer. I want meaningful exchanges. I know how to be a giant asshole, but refrain from it personally. Just saying...go fuck yourself.
@corkcamden9878
@corkcamden9878 3 жыл бұрын
Can the foul language. I realize it's not a priority for many people but you're more intelligent than most.
@DoogsModels
@DoogsModels 3 жыл бұрын
No
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