Doom II - MAP15: Industrial Zone (Nightmare! 100% Secrets + Items)

[@Vytaan]

Yeah, what a great run! I completely agree that this map is the hardest so far. The length makes it way worse, plus the fact that the horrible secret is at the very end... it's just so easy for the pain elemental to not cooperate and waste 10 minutes of your time. And wow... thank you so much for the unexpected shoutout at the end, it caught me completely off guard. I can't describe how it made me feel, but my face was beaming throughout the whole outro. First because you pulled off the run, then because of the awesome things you said. I wouldn't have started playing this category if it wasn't for you showing how fun it is (plus NERF of course!)

[@thebobbyllama6410]

I can't believe how easy you make Nightmare look with just the keyboard. Excellent work, dude!

[@DuckReconMajor]

just subbed, thanks for shouting Vytaan out decino! watching your video of this now, so far it's very good!

[@ChuckRuledTheWorld]

More Dutch Doom gods please!

[@CircsC]

Keyboard only is how so many of us played back in the day so it's nice to see people play that way. Very cool to beat this map that way on Nightmare and I hope you heal up well and soon.

[@thebobbyllama6410]

@@CircsC Yeah, definitely! I used to be keyboard only too! I remember the mouse sensitivity being super sluggish, and it was just faster to turn with the arrow keys.

[@PeterLawrenceYT]

Absolute legend! 100% Secrets is SO TOUGH on this map!

[@enjoylife6374]

you're a legend!

[@gackmcshite4724]

In awe at the speed of this lad. Absolute unit.

[@niconutz898]

Getting some good Karl Jobst vibes here 😎🔥

[@T3sl4]

@@enjoylife6374 Hello you absolute legends.

[@planet23k]

@@T3sl4 Hello Karl in disguise :D

[@rintakumpu]

Congrats for pulling off that pain elemental secret!

[@decino]

Vytaan's also doing Doom II on nightmare 100% kills/items/secrets: www.youtube.com/@Vytaan

[@leadendeath]

decino speaking gently to a pain elemental as though calling back in a dog from outside… i didn’t know i needed that in my life :’)

[@onepureturtle]

Petition to officially refer that particular Pain Elemental as Tooshie from here on now.

[@tacticaljunk1608]

Pre-firing the BFG to kill the Baron and then walking in to the Pain Elemental to stop the Lost Souls from spawning was pure art.

[@RammsteinAM]

7:10 Agree, on Nightmare Supercharge feels like a Medikit.

[@iguana9173]

I agree with you on that.

[@daniel8chang]

I was howling listening to Decino beckoning the Pain Elemental - “C’mere,” “Come,” “Please,” et cetera 🤣

[@AlexeiVoronin]

Now this isn't just a regular playthrough, but a real work of art. Well done! So, what can we say about this level... Beside the infamous Pain Elemental secret, this map is also known for receiving one very peculiar change in Doom 2's first update (ver 1.7) - one zombieman was removed from the northern half of the map (he was located very close to Decino's position in 2:40). No one knows why. But I suppose this counts as a good thing when playing on Nightmare.

[@junkolover9518]

Jeffrey Zombiestein didn't remove himself.

[@DreamSphinxGaming]

That zombieman had a kill count of over 8,600 Doomguys, and was removed from the game for being overpowered.

[@TheRogueWolf]

Zombieman #18: "Look, I know this is Hell and we're evil, but this place is just too wicked even for me. Can I get a transfer to 'O of Destruction'?"

[@Lvl31Gardevoir]

@@TheRogueWolf This give me a laugh! I always loved the idea of video game characters as workers at a job and the killing and being killed is just a show.

[@Benji2914]

Decino is truly going on a tear with this challenge. This is historic.

[@pepperonipizzapiepeephole]

It's absolutely insane that you completed this on nightmare AND got the broken secret. Congrats dude, this was awesome to see.

[@Skelly57]

Getting 100% secrets on Nightmare with the pain elemental is insane, nice job!

[@eduardodiaz9942]

You know a map is hard when the partial invisibility is actually a powerup

[@ViscusLupus]

One of the best Doom 2 maps, and 2:21 is the most iconic solo from every Midi in this game, love it!

[@ji604]

The Call of Ktulu (Metallica) influence is a great chord progression to solo over 🤘

[@klaesregis7487]

Just leaving this one here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/p4fRZ3Zsqs55pZI

[@ViscusLupus]

@@ji604 It's Hangar 18 dude, not Ktulu.

[@ji604]

​​​@@ViscusLupus I see it now. Deleted my stupidly long reply about music theory and Dave Mustaine and I realized my mistake in attributing the "influence" to Call of Ktulu. All I meant to say was I agree with the music being good and share how the chords lend themselves well to solos. My bad. Shoulda just cut out the first half of my original comment 😂 thanks for the correction.

[@scottl.1568]

@8:35 -- As referenced in "Explosions 💥", there is no vertical limit for rocket splash damage! Also remember that explosions are square shaped in the Doom World, NOT spherical or even cylindrical.

[@drewpace6460]

The timing on that pre-fire by the BFG monster closet was immaculate. Very satisfying to watch.

[@iguana9173]

I’m not surprised that it took that many attempts. Excellent job decino. Especially with the pain elemental secret.

[@A_Lazy_Mutt]

The way decino sounds increasingly tense and desperate as he sets up the broken secret has to be one of the best moments on this channel

[@Flyxolydian]

Best DOOM II map... Not surprised that you had trouble with it given how many hitscanners there are!

[@TarosTheVoid]

I always find Dead Simple to O of Destruction being my favorite stretch of Doom 2 levels Tricks and Traps is one of my favorites in Doom 2 fully

[@Flyxolydian]

@@TarosTheVoid Interesting take that, usually people dismiss The Pit and Refueling Base, but they're both really good maps.

[@TarosTheVoid]

@@Flyxolydian I think the Pit is one of my lesser favorites, but it is carried by that midi but I do fondly enjoy Map07-09 I think it overcomplicates it's layout for me, over time I might lighten up to it I forget refueling base tbh, O of Destruction is probably top 3 Doom maps for me Edit: I do remember Refueling Base, I think the combat in that map is very meaty but I don't like that cyberdemon part, pretty nasty for me (I don't know how to get the secret invuln tbh)

[@yawg691]

O of destruction, this map, suburbs, and monster condo were always maps I liked

[@Flyxolydian]

@@yawg691 Suburbs is another brilliant shout... dawn of the Slaughtermap that one.

[@BigMacDavis]

Awesome shoutouts to Peter and Vytaan. They both deserve more subs! But you cannot tell me, you just cannot tell me, Trollmero didn't intend the final secret that way. No one can convince me otherwise. I will remain willfully ignorant, if need be. Muhahaha.

[@trobe23z]

Well done sir! You've inspired me to start tackling my own Doom challenges.

[@AffenKloPutzer]

I was always in awe of your Doom skill in general but going for the Pain Elemental secret in a Nightmare run straight up left me speechless

[@GeminionRay]

This came out much faster than I expected, and with an incredibly smooth run to boot! Also I never expected to learn a few more things I didn't know in a single vid (0:22, 2:55, 6:32). Really nice to have this to watch at the end of day.

[@frozenbean]

Wow, huge props for going for the broken secret too, even after all those tomatoes respawned.

[@plankera]

“What have I started?” You haven’t even gotten to Final Doom yet. Great job on the run by the way, this map shows how much of a pain those meatballs all.

[@jothain]

Wait, no. You're joking right? That would seem pretty much insane. Ok, tbh I haven't played them through, not even near, but what I have, aren't those maps essentially impossible on nightmare iirc? Tons of hitscanners and very little powerups...

[@plankera]

@@jothain I’m saying it in hope that he does it.

[@Nob1ej0n]

You are a mad lad! Going for 100% secrets on Nightmare. My goodness, what a run!

[@ITRIEDEL]

Holy shit, these runs are so much fun to watch! Well done! I was on the edge of my seat despite knowing you did it anyway haha.

[@not_creative_with_username3834]

Even the goddamn pain elemental secret? on nightmare? WOW! i'm amazed. Decino truly is a man of focus, commitment and sheer fuckin' will.

[@kassandraalvarado8609]

One of my favorite levels in Doom II (despite hit scanner hell) It's great to see you play it in Nightmare!

[@DrAce46]

That is absolutely ridiculous mate, you're speed and accuracy through this was unreal. Awesome Decino!

[@xTerminatorAndy]

Thank you Decino for another stunning video. The thing that makes my teeth itch, though, is that, although you have an enemy kill count that is higher than the number of enemies, you don't actually have 100% of all of the monsters killed, as some of them are counted more than once due to respawns. I don't think it's possible for doom to count the number of monsters killed that were placed by the map maker?

[@decino]

It cannot. Respawned enemies are "new" so they count as extra kills.

[@dt2phillips]

You nailed that tricky jump the first time in your successful run! 👍👏

[@GeneralPotatoSalad]

Decino (or Doomguy) lives in a strange world where a giant flying head that spits fireballs might or might *not* "do something weird".

[@nangsanbhalangblah333]

The madlad did it. Also, that "spawning them inside me" makes for a great out of context clip 😂.

[@SkyL3R7]

Maaan, this soundtrack is so dynamic, I am loving it, it just keeps you going

[@Grindiskhan]

WOW! You will always find a way how to amaze us. Good job :D

[@rankoinazuma6788]

Histcan enemies and open areas is always a deadly combination, no doubt

[@Olek54321]

this map is ridiculous, my God what a heck! Total chaos and carnage by hitscanners :O Congratulations! Final secret was so nerve-wracking wow

[@januszkomin3490]

Damn, so much trouble for an intended secret But for real, absolutely insane run, i doubted anyone other than Zero Master could've pulled this secret off on Nightmare but here we are. Good job pumpkin man!

[@distortomanipulo]

Awesome, i've been picking back up the doom wads I was working on a few years back.

[@SofaCitySweetheart]

Video idea: show us how you figure out/plan routes for crazier maps like this, and how you remember everything for so many different maps consistently (do you write anything down for example?) Very impressive work!

[@odstagent1070]

I got an important lesson from this video: 1:41 | 2:58 | 4:05 | 5:58 | 6:43 | 9:25| 10:27| TRUST ON YOURSELF TO MAKE THINGS WORK Thanks decino. 1-frame ouch face: 5:11

[@x1teDota]

This was a real treat. Amazing, amazing gameplay. I could feel the tension waiting for that pain elemental!

[@TarosTheVoid]

I do like Industrial Zone within the city levels (which unfortunately the part where I drop Doom 2 bc it's draggy and didn't date well) maybe it's the layout and Running from Evil being reused in this Map (I heard the latter third is worse but I didn't get that far, I must put myself to complete Doom 2 fully someday) Good luck with the second half and secret levels Decino

[@matheusrios4223]

This is the hardest map so far, and the hardest secret ever. And our pumpkin hero did it. now 2 easy maps just to rest. You deserve it decino :D

[@georgeheilman885]

All secrets and items on this map is a tall order with respawning enemies, but then again, that pain elemental secret is a pain (ha!) regardless. Glad you eventually beat it.

[@dmitry9594]

My favorite map and my favorite song from Doom II! And a long video! Also, decino from the past is approaching us.

[@TheBrassDancer]

Amazing run! Main positives to consider are that thank goodness there are no pinkies or archies around. That last secret is definitely a mistake though, and of course Romero was joking about using the Pain Elemental as an “intended” way.

[@sirkredrum3406]

I played the 4 original wads on UV co-op not too long ago. The added cyber demon on a pistol start could make this even more insane.

[@SkullKingofCarpathia]

I was waiting for this one from the start and it did not disappoint. Brutal level

[@zenammu]

decino woke up that day and said "I'm going to make my life as difficult as possible today!". Congrats on 100% secrets, you maniac...

[@nelr3529]

Wasn't feeling good waiting 24h for an 8 min vid. Good that today we have 19 to enjoy. Love you decino

[@nelr3529]

Baited 💀

[@alexandersmith6140]

Curious as to why you didn't just hug the right wall when you dropped down at 1:26. I've always managed to land on the mezzanine halfway down and then jump to get the secret the first time through, without having to backtrack for a second drop.

[@decino]

Only possible on GZDoom. No air control in vanilla Doom unless shot by the Shotgunner below you.

[@Balla_Bo]

This map is the humble Zombieman’s time to shine 😌

[@TheRealNormanBates]

10:35 sooo why do you need the Pain Elemental to achieve that last secret?

[@SimonBuchanNz]

He has a full video on these broken secrets somewhere, but iirc the basic version is the teleporter itself is marked as a secret, but normal movement will teleport you before tagging the secret. The pain elemental can spawn lost souls inside you causing you to be "bounced", which doesn't check for the teleport, or something along those lines.

[@eljaminlatour6633]

Delinquent despite being your enemy, he helped you find the last secret.

[@dasnurk]

Me, used to the 5 to 10 mins videos from Decino, clicking on the thumbnail: "Aight" Decino: Here is a 19 mins video. ME: "GYATTDAYUM!!!"

[@Quillyik]

holy shit, you actually went for the pain elemental secret. Mad respect.

[@sanketower]

Damn, this map is way longer than I remember. Also, you madman actually went for the Pain Elemental secret. Goated run!

[@PersephoneStars]

You absolute legend. Not only you went for all items and secrets, you went for the broken secret. Amazing run Decino!

[@jamison8929]

great job! I replayed this level on UV not too long ago and it's a tough level in general. lots of chip damage plus those random traps like the hell knight in the pit. funny when you're luring the pain elemental like it's a pet. "here boy!"

[@rulojuka]

You are amazing! Thanks for these series, I am following it daily and it is being awesome. You rock!

[@AlexeiVoronin]

14:08 - Congrats, you are one of the very few KZbinrs who pronounce "Wolfenstein" correctly :)

[@1pcfred]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZLQd2lqfKuDsMk

[@thestabbybrit4798]

You got 100% secrets on a map where most people consider that impossible, playing on a difficulty setting most people consider impossible to beat. I have no words.

[@RevolverRez]

Doing this on nightmare is hard enough, but getting that stupid [COMPLETELY INTENTIONAL] secret too is nuts. I don't know how guys like you and Vytaan do it.

[@atomsk01]

Man that level was totally "death of 1000 cuts"

[@alexlxpg4985]

I'm starting the video but I just wanna say I had a dream of you uploading this video and it's over 1 hour long, like 80% is dedicated to failing the pain elemental secret. Very glad that it's relatively fast considering how awful it sounds on paper!

[@PepperDoom]

This is CRAZY! Well done!

[@FloodclawKupo]

Oh MAN, absolutely amazing work once more. Genuinely impressive stuff. And all those outtakes just so baaaaarely close to finishing, were it not for the Spicy Meatball. Congrats to Vytaan, too. Not only doing this, but keyboard only? Both of you so wonderfully skilled.

[@qqquasar]

I was looking forward to this one and it didn't disappoint at all. I was worried you'd forget about the supercharge. Also, I remember there were more chaingunners by the first megaarmor, but eh, that's just me. It's nice that this map has no pinkies. Great job~

[@simong326]

Congratulations man, well deserved!

[@hsantanna88]

Amazing run! This was my favorite level when I was a kid, and I think the reason is what you said: It is ridiculous big with lots of stuff to explore plus the awesome midi.

[@pannomic]

Knowing a bit of Romero you can tell is a joke, probably he was laughing at everyone that believed him lol Amazing game dude, I can't believe you went for Pain Elemental Secret man.

[@b_u_nn_y]

glad to see you are still making videos, keep up the amazing work :)

[@riba2233]

omg I can't believe you actually pulled it of.. huge congrats and thank you so much for the everyday entertainment you provide to us!

[@lukebehrendsbro.]

You sir, are a legend! This Nightmare is indeed nightmare & hitscanners everywhere is never a good thing. Finally getting that broken secret is the best thing to watch here. 😄I must say you did an excellent job on beating this & getting all objectives done as well! I salute you! 👏

[@krystallinekris]

This is the first Zombie kill, too! 16:50, both monsters that you're looking at are Zombieman! They finally got a notch on the C-rank (or are they B-rank in Doom II?) tier kill count. xD And they not only got one kill in their killing debut, but two! The final death at the end as well.

[@Trampelschrat]

Duuuude! That was beyond amazing!!!

[@chiqi335]

Another hitscan map oh yipee, what a hell of map and god bless the chaingun. Thats an epic run, congratulation decino!!! *ALSO* You win this time pumpkin man, going through the secret levels will pause the countdown, for now you will not be in pain for 2 maps more But yeah, we can say this one can have the "Swiss cheese" aproved seal

[@feliperojas-doomride]

what an absolute madman, that was incredible

[@Dollar_Store_Cacodemon]

Bossed it decino! Great job. 💪🏻🎃

[@YeenMage]

You said: Kill some of these imps. However, my brain misheard it as "kill some of these pimps" lol And when you said "Cacodemon's not here." You reminded me of the scene in Home Alone 2 where the McCallister family just realized that Kevin is not with them. "Kevin's not here" reference. Damn my brain. xD

[@chriswaudby1084]

Wow now that looked like sheer hell man awesomeness 💯👏👏✊

[@FrancisFjordCupola]

Wondered what you'd do with this level and that broken secret. Amazing you got it done.

[@MrCantStopTheRobot]

That Death #6 was such a perfect cherry on top of this ice cream sundae XD

[@planet23k]

Ouch, some of these outtakes really hurt. Good job making it through! Wouldn't be able to have any Schadenfreude from your pain mate, how could you even say that : ( (yes, joking around but still)

[@lankymaccrazyhair264]

One of the most memorable doom 2 levels imo.

[@madmikemike]

👏 👏 👏 gj bro. This was rad

[@Alexander_Filippov]

As always, good job well taken.

[@IIFirenII]

woaw, "only" 7 attempts for this! what a masterclass, that's insane, big GG

[@EnemyAce88]

You continue to make it look so easy. Well done.

[@jonscottiegrippin]

What a mad lad. The timing and luck with the pre fired BFG shots was insane.

[@r2dezki]

Oh boy, this is gonna be great!

[@simonpoliushkin774]

Well done, decino! Impressive run👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@nathanlamont9920]

Can't wait for you to beat The Living End. During my 100% fast monsters + Pistol start playthrough I gave up at that point.

[@CascaDEER]

Very very well done, congratulations!

[@eddiesalinas]

an amazing run!!!!! getting the "pain-elemental enabled secret" takes it over the top too!!!!

[@andyl8055]

So hard…. Every time you’re in the open you’re just being pecked to death. Very well done completing that.

[@audiosurfarchive]

Straight heat from No Caps Doom God, decino. Absolutely sublime.

[@tatamimats]

Awesome work!