Great! Now we just need more integration with Cubase. We should't need to export midi to bring it into Dorico. I want to be able to open Cubase, press a "Send to Dorico" button and see all my selected Midi instruments open in Dorico. I want to Edit notes in Dorico and press "Send to Cubase" and have them update automatically.
@savagesauron41475 жыл бұрын
Kinda like switching the Cubase Score Editor with Dorico. Maybe as an add-on. That'd be great!
@samsanity96743 жыл бұрын
protools has "send to Sibelius" now
@dynamicalan3 жыл бұрын
It has been my experienced with other DAW's that importing large amounts of tracks and/or clips that things can get messed up and less at a time is better.
@oibruv38893 жыл бұрын
@Jericho Wayne lol ok jericho
@magnuslervikmusic5 жыл бұрын
Damn I would LOVE some tutorials on how Alan orchestrates in Cubase. Junkie XL style. I've been an exclusive Cubase user for 20 years+. Cubase 10 is the best!!
@MorisoniProductions5 жыл бұрын
Great to see Silvestri's techniques. THANK YOU!!
@IroLidorikioti5 жыл бұрын
I find it very interesting to listen to the workflow of such a prominent film composer. So much inspiration! Great idea Dorico!
@jonathanparham5 жыл бұрын
always good to hear an A list composer workflow. good to hear how Dorico and Cubase work for him
@doomboogie3155 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic. Thank you so much for uploading this.
@tempus_fugit73665 жыл бұрын
I find this fascinating because Alan began as an old school scoring composer. Which means you write and score with a full orchestra to a projected film. This method was the only way for over a hundred years to score a movie. It was tedious and could take months to complete. Not surprisingly with the digital age, technology has made this task easier by far. I'm very impressed to see someone like Alan embrace the available technology.
@haliefaith352 жыл бұрын
Avengers Endgame made me want to become a film composer and now I'm in college and use Dorico :) this is cool
@ishagshafeeg5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Enjoyed listening to him.
@mmumambientsounds-timers4 жыл бұрын
Predator, the best soundtrack ever!
@Fwuzeem4 жыл бұрын
Not made with Cubase obviously
@ScottGlasgowMusic5 жыл бұрын
Love it!
@ArturoAlbero4 жыл бұрын
I do love his approach, it resonates very much with how I want to work. Thanks for this great video, is a gold mine :)
@erik9817 Жыл бұрын
Me too! Now all I need is afford Dorico.
@MarcoDiStefano795 жыл бұрын
Amazing, this is what I was looking for! thanks for sharing
@AnalogueDear5 жыл бұрын
what a legend
@sukarnavikram36294 жыл бұрын
This man made the theme for Avengers, Thank you
@gabrield.cstoica18324 жыл бұрын
For my is one of the best Composer scoring movie
@nachiketjambhekar99825 жыл бұрын
An absolute genius
@Arktid4 жыл бұрын
Great person! And it is obvious when seeing his great sequences of working!
@MrSamuelivey3 жыл бұрын
Really like this guy. Legend.
@King_Colombia_Inc5 жыл бұрын
I *ADORE* ALAN SILVESTRI. :D
@ΝίκοςΠιτλόγλου3 жыл бұрын
Great and informative video! However a better integration between Cubase and Dorico would make his life (and ours also) much easier.
@dorico3 жыл бұрын
Integration means many different things to different people, but it is on our radar, yes.
@ΝίκοςΠιτλόγλου3 жыл бұрын
@@dorico thank you!
@ayhantekinorkestrasvetekin3799 Жыл бұрын
Super
@paulsmith6343 жыл бұрын
And that's how you get those meter changes in "Even for you" from Infinity War!
@soundyg74414 жыл бұрын
Wow, I would’ve never thought Silvestri basically writes music the same way I do lol. How life-affirming! I am curious how he gets those automation nodes from his midi tracks into dorico. Does he need to re-insert them into the score by hand?
@MiketheNerdRanger5 жыл бұрын
Havent actually given Cubase much thought until now, when I'm learning you can compose in it.
@dorico5 жыл бұрын
It's 50% off if you fancy it: new.steinberg.net/cubase/celebrate/
@AsesorMusical5 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Maybe Nuendo for reconforming?
@AsesorMusical5 жыл бұрын
Also Nuendo 10 features an automatic video cut detector
@jackaguirre85762 жыл бұрын
I'm excited to see Adam Silvestri speak about his workflow but I honestly wish I had any idea what he was saying XD. I only use Dorico, I don't really understand what Cubase does and how helpful it may be.
@dorico2 жыл бұрын
Cubase is a 'digital audio workstation' so it allows you to record MIDI and audio. The basic differece is that from Dorico you primarily output sheet music, but from Cubase you primarily output an audio file e.g. a beautifully mixed track for an album, or film - or in Alan's case an audio version of what the orchestra will sound like.
@Reverdoc4 жыл бұрын
Hi... as I don't know Cubase, can someone tells me what is the notation software he is using ? Is it two separate programs or both are included in Cubase... I can't seem to find how to produce tant kind of score in Sonar... Thank you...
@ThePeaterBeater4 жыл бұрын
Reverdoc hi! the notation software featured in this video is dorico, a new product released by steinberg! cubase does have a built-in notation view, however this can be hard to use, especially with engravings and such. dorico is a program fully built to create professional-level notated scores
@pshimmons3 жыл бұрын
fascinating insight! Now we need full integration - you know... where there isn't a Cubase and also a Dorico - it is just one app!
@alananibal104 жыл бұрын
When Dorico will have a pen function so real composers like this guy can do all at once? Then it would be more than Perfect!
@dorico4 жыл бұрын
That's not always the best or quickest way of working. Hand-writing isn't as accurate as using a keyboard (for live MIDI input or as shortcuts), but is sometimes a nice option. Maybe we'll add it in the future, but for now you can use something like StaffPad and then import in to Dorico as a MusicXML file.
@Fangornmmc5 жыл бұрын
What he talks about at 5:52 (having no picture lock) is probably one of the worst things to have happened to film music. How can any composer, even one of the skill of Silvestri, be expected to deliver truly great music that stands on its own when the puzzle pieces are constantly being moved around?
@eirik_myhr5 жыл бұрын
A very unfortunate trend, and one of the downsides of the flexibility we are faced with in this day and age. Luckily here in Norway the picture is USUALLY locked once sound post production starts. It must be a nightmare when this is not the case...
@iceomistar43023 жыл бұрын
It makes me wonder just how happy Jerry Goldsmith would have been to have all this new software and technology to compose with, if only he had lived another 10 years, I'm sure he would have played around with all the modern tech and synths.
@erik9817 Жыл бұрын
Great! However Cubase does have a sheet view as well, but we don't talk about that. :p
@acquiesce1004 жыл бұрын
How did he do all this in the 1980s with Back To The Future and Predator for example.
@itznoxy71934 жыл бұрын
He wrote by hand. Same way every composer wrote before computers.
@homeofcreation5 жыл бұрын
Boy I'd love see those macros
@erik9817 Жыл бұрын
That's it, I'm wishing for Dorico Pro for my birthday. Or maybe Zbrush...
@EareelOfficial5 жыл бұрын
The intro and outro music is from Age of Ultron (Outlook)
@StefanGraz3 жыл бұрын
Any chance to improve the exchange of musical material between Dorico Pro and Logic Pro X?
@dorico3 жыл бұрын
We do have some ideas to start with on the MIDI front (coming from Logic), or are you using MusicXML?
@cesmcmyth4 жыл бұрын
Whaaaat? He has Nektar Panorama P6? Why +Nektar doesn't abuse this as a brand ambassador? I didn't think pros would use these kinda midi keyboards
@nandoflorestan5 жыл бұрын
Yeaaahhh... No. Switching between 2 programs all the time to create the same music is a nightmare. What we want is for Dorico to be able to create good mockups, then we'll be happy.
@eirik_myhr5 жыл бұрын
If that's the way you want to work, you might want to check out Note Performer 3, which you can use with Dorico for surprisingly good mock-up-quality playback.
@nandoflorestan5 жыл бұрын
@@eirik_myhr sorry, I am looking for much better quality and flexibility in programming the performance.
@eirik_myhr5 жыл бұрын
@@nandoflorestan Well that's why you still need a sequencer like Cubase, Logic or Studio One. I dream of a day when these two worlds might be a more unified experience too, but that's not the case right now. We would need a revolution in how these programs think for that to happen. For now, creating a realistic sounding mockup with sample libraries and creating precise notation is not the same task. Even though it would be great if it was.
@nandoflorestan5 жыл бұрын
@@eirik_myhr It is just a small matter of programming. Not at all impossible, as you say. Check out Presonus Notion for a notation package that's gotten half way there.
@eirik_myhr5 жыл бұрын
@@nandoflorestan "Quality and flexibility in programming" is what you do in a sequencer program when you create mockups. Notation programs are all about getting the notation correct, but the sound you get when you playback from a notation program is of course a 100% flat performance, because you have programmed notation, not performance. To get a performance, or something with character, you often need to play something that is NOT equal to the notation, that is not 100% mathematically correct or precise. These are almost diametrically opposite goals. This is the reason why we still need both the sequencer and the notation software. In the meantime we have stuff like NotePerformer, which at least brings the two a bit closer together by interpreting the sounds from the notation program better than previous alternatives. Some day we may get there, but it won't happen now. Have to work now - have a nice day :)
@AbstractBravado5 жыл бұрын
Dope
@davidcesar20445 жыл бұрын
Is it confirmed that he used Dorico with Avengers? Because if he did...I would buy this in a heartbeat.
@dorico5 жыл бұрын
Hello, yes, that is the whole point of this video... You should watch part 2 ;) kzbin.info/www/bejne/gXKxXoWFi7GNsLM
@HansolJang4 жыл бұрын
Me too. I wish Dorico & Cubase to marry someday.
@emanuel_soundtrack2 жыл бұрын
this is Logic Pro
@flashgamer12755 жыл бұрын
What Symphony Orchestra was used to record? London?
@flashgamer12754 жыл бұрын
@@taykitrleevitt4314 I searched for hours and couldn't find a single source saying what orchestra was used.
@flashgamer12754 жыл бұрын
@@taykitrleevitt4314 Which is why I came to a scoring video asking, since he is literally sitting in a recording hall. Try googling "how to neck oneself"
@Turtleddj5 жыл бұрын
💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
@DidierMartini5 жыл бұрын
"We hope you find this video entertaining and useful. If you like what you see, please leave a comment and tell us what you think" Dear Steinberg, can you actually please activate or make working a CC (close caption) track, so the ones who doesn't speak english well enough or hearing disabled person can find this video entertaining and useful ! thank you ! A fan of alan silvestri since ... wow d*** i'm old :(
@filmscorefreak2 жыл бұрын
The modern never-ending editing process is part of what has killed movies, and the scores greatly suffer. It's practically turned filmscoring into a borderline nightmare.
@jeffescanto3 жыл бұрын
ok, so all what he said was fun and super intelligent and interesting..... but, WHAT!?
@Leotique5 жыл бұрын
End Game
@samuelmarzo7225 жыл бұрын
Yess
@MartinStolzMusic5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but where is any demonstration.... Nice talks, but there is no practical overview at all. In the end just bla, bla, bla.... No need to change to dorico at all...
@dorico5 жыл бұрын
No, we didn't get Alan to show his exact process in these videos, but we are considering a video series showing the features he was talking about so that we can answer specific questions.
@AndreasvanHaren5 жыл бұрын
@@dorico That would be great. I am especially interested in that macro he uses in Cubase. What does he mean lighting the region up and expanding it? (selecting a region of tracks?) and brings up the automation (opening the automation lanes?). What is the macro doing specifically here?
@jordanalexander5 жыл бұрын
It's obviously difficult to critique someone who is at the top of the game... but this sounds REALLY inefficient. I was under the impression that Dorico would have all the DAW features needed to edit a score but also a performance/mockup.
@dorico5 жыл бұрын
There is a lot you can do in Dorico, and we're still working hard, but in some cases where you want to add e.g. multiple audio tracks you'll still need a DAW.
@TB1M13 жыл бұрын
Alan Silvestri is a great composer, but the recent Marvel films captain america etc are incredibly boring to listen to there is almost no counterpoint. If you want to know what a good action score is listen to the "hijacking" scene in Air Force One.