Dorne in the books: vast, rich and populous Dorne in the show: a small shack of a palace with 5 citizens total.
@TheMattew7774 жыл бұрын
It is less populous than the Westerlands, Reach, North, Vale and Riverlands.
@factbeaglesarebest4 жыл бұрын
Well they completely scrapped the Dorne plot. But the only part of Dorne we see in the show is the water Gardens.
@LF-hj8kk4 жыл бұрын
they are neither rich nor populous in the books btw
@factbeaglesarebest4 жыл бұрын
LF 3400 exactly. Doran specifically tells Arienne that they the Targaryens wanted to exaggerate the populoation since they Dornish/Rhoynar never knelt, and Dorne kept it going to protect themselves. Dorne is a vast wasteland specked with a few small sanctuaries.
@oppionatedindividual82562 жыл бұрын
@@LF-hj8kk they’re absolutely rich. Not populous but rich. They have textiles industry, are close to the Summer Sea and Essos ( trade routes would flow into Dorne and then to the rest in some cases because of this realistically ). Also they have a monopoly on the citrus trade - a fair priced delicacy in this setting for sure.
@tamerlane98895 жыл бұрын
Aegon: kneel Dorne: No i dont think a will
@Teag_Brohman154 жыл бұрын
Aegon: fine, it's too bloody hot there anyway
@finnheisenheim82744 жыл бұрын
Whats funny is the targaryens brought the dornish into the fold by offering them dragons to ride......not the actual dragons🤣
@tamerlane9889 Жыл бұрын
@@Teag_Brohman15 a dragon who can’t handle the heat😂
@ВелиалВинчестер Жыл бұрын
And before the Usurper they knelt down. Though he didn't have dragons
@2dimitropolis3706 жыл бұрын
evryone loves Dorne in books.everyone hates Dorna in show...
@ieatyourbrain84786 жыл бұрын
Easily my favorite storyline going on currently in the books!
@finnheisenheim82744 жыл бұрын
What did kevan's wife do to make everyone hate her?
@This-jy6wn3 жыл бұрын
Dorna...
@wingy2003 жыл бұрын
My favorite part of the Dornish Master Plan: Quentyn: "Hippity hoppity your dragon is now my property!" Rhaegal: "My goals are beyond your understanding."
@elevenjordan40423 жыл бұрын
Real fax
@throwmeaname6 жыл бұрын
Dorne is my favourite out of all the 7 kingdoms. The Martells never bent under Aegon. Unlike the Westerland who has their coin, the Storm, North and the Reach with their strength and martial prowess. Dorne survived through their cunning, wit and deception. On top of that, Dorne houses Dawn and the Sword of the Morning. Dorne is truly an amazing state.
@Captain_Insano_nomercy5 жыл бұрын
Yeah I sorta lost my love for Dorne after reading fire and blood. Their stubborn pride left their home a wasteland and their people massacred. It's the exact opposite or Torrhen Stark the king who knelt, who submitted to save his people from fiery death in a hopeless war. George presented the Dornish wars as completely pointless on purpose, to show the futility of fighting over titles and honor. The Stark king swallowed his pride to save his people and the Dornish sacrificed the people they served for their vanity
@Captain_Insano_nomercy5 жыл бұрын
In fire and blood it's also stated that the Dornish strategy was seen as cowardly by the rest of Westeros. They lost all honor just so they could remain kings (princes). I don't think they are necessarily heroic
@sheepshiftsheetsplit43225 жыл бұрын
@@Captain_Insano_nomercy I agree that George is making that point but I also think the Dornish didn't kneel in honor of their past. Letting go of Mother Rhoyne to kneel to the people who were responsible for her great downfall. Yeah... I'd kind of have a problem kneeling too. If I come from a culture that was the peaceful bomb & you come from a culture that was slavey trash, I'd do whatever I needed to do so that mine prevailed (even though Dorne kinda turned trash-ish & Targaryen rule became somewhat peaceful). But I'm a straight up Targaryen hater so my opinion's definitely biased lol. Idk man, me still loves the Dorny dogs 💕
@fai-pe7oq5 жыл бұрын
colton watson the dornish people fully supported the Martells despite the massive deaths the dornish suffered. You gotta remember that it was the Valyrians and their dragons that destroyed the homes of their ancestors, the Rhoynar, so it makes sense that they would refuse to kneel to them.
@Captain_Insano_nomercy5 жыл бұрын
@@fai-pe7oq yeah I'm not stupid bro, I get that. Trading thousands of lives for pride is still however meant to be seen as a waste
@Crusader10894 жыл бұрын
"Its a little strange since its called the Dornish Marches" this is similar to the English Welsh Marches and Scottish Marches. Marcher Lord was the title in English equivalent to marquis in French and means Lord of the Border. The Dornish Marches literally means "lands which border Dorne".
@MilloSpiegel2 жыл бұрын
ahhhhh makes sense
@DX20696 жыл бұрын
Yes do the iron islands I think there is some interesting history there that would be cool to be seen in your videos
@s4m1r_654 жыл бұрын
interesting that the only kingdom the targaryens didnt conquer was dorne. the valyrians prosecuted the roynar people . maybe the roynar, upon arriving in dorne prepared ways to fight off the valyrians. their early exposure to the dragon lords of valyria may have taught them a lot on how they fought off the targaryens, unlike the other 6 kingdoms
@shaddoecrow58723 жыл бұрын
When Aegon the conqueror, Rhaenys, and Visenya attempted to conquer Dorne they only had three dragons, where as when the Valyrians conquered the Rhoyne they had hundreds.
@s4m1r_653 жыл бұрын
@@shaddoecrow5872 of that I am aware. But even if the valyrians had three dragons, not much can stop dragons in the world of ice and fire.
@oppionatedindividual82562 жыл бұрын
Rhoynar.
@guifdcanalli2 жыл бұрын
@@s4m1r_65 actually tho, the Rhoynar put a battle against them, many dragonlords fell from the sky during the conquest, its said that in the city of Chroyane alone many dragonlords were cursed by the Rhoynar magic and drawned in the waters below with their dragons Not only they were good fighers but unlike their descendants in Dorne they had water mages, so three dragons alone would definitely lose against the Rhoynar cities
@αστρον2 жыл бұрын
@@guifdcanalli and they had also an army with more than 200000 men 10 times as many as the dornish
@AXELVISSERS6 жыл бұрын
audio makes pops! anyone else has this?
@kermittonnes-priddy84806 жыл бұрын
AXEL VISSERS yeah
@rillapedro67526 жыл бұрын
Yeah i heard it too
@Malkether6 жыл бұрын
I didn't notice until you pointed it out and now it's driving me nuts
@noahjohnson9355 жыл бұрын
I thought it was just me!@
@galvatronusthegreat62305 жыл бұрын
Legit thought my phone was breaking.
@amazigh87766 жыл бұрын
Dorne is like morocco and spain mixed
@pjishomo5 жыл бұрын
Andalusia
@kerzariz87174 жыл бұрын
Except less Regressive like the Muslims.
@olenickel60134 жыл бұрын
@@kerzariz8717 Al Andalus, the Muslim kingdom in Spain, was famously tolerant for its time. It was a diverse place with large communities of muslims, jews and christians coexisting and because it was so diverse, its rulers for large parts chose tolerance to maintain stability rather than forcing conversion.
@kerzariz87174 жыл бұрын
@@olenickel6013 That was until the Morrocans invaded sadly.
@olenickel60134 жыл бұрын
@@kerzariz8717 The "golden age" ended even earlier. There were pogroms against minorities even before the Moroccan Berber warriors took over the state. Once outside pressure mounted, military defeats and conquests of land by Christian kingdoms destabilized Al Andalus, the tolerance ended. Still, it's failry obvious GRRM modeled the idea of Dorne being comparatively progressive in its social values vis-a-vis the rest of the seven kingdoms on the Moorish golden age.
@ThePurplePims6 жыл бұрын
These videos have been really great. Thank you! The more of these, the better.
@sheepshiftsheetsplit43225 жыл бұрын
Ned & Howland were the only ones who *"walked away"* that day, according to Neds *"fever dream"* . Specific yet, mysterious lol damn you George!
@factbeaglesarebest4 жыл бұрын
There’s obviously Jon being carried, but than hey someone could have rode away, could be plain false as it’s a fever dream
@dustinmaxwell2593 жыл бұрын
"Walking Away" from a fight means you managed to survive. Ned and Howland were the only ones who survived that battle. But you probably already know that.
@craniu3000bis6 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah, do the Iron Islands
@andrzejkopalnia5 жыл бұрын
Dayum rite!
@TheDzudas4 жыл бұрын
Harlow, Harlow, Greyjoy, Harlow, Harlow
@JorraneRei10 ай бұрын
Great video. Love Dorne. House Dayne is easily my favourite. Like the theory that they may be descended from a proto-Valyrian race that were one of many from The Great Empire of the Dawn. Their house as reputed by Darkstar goes back ‘ten thousand years, unto the Dawn of Day(ne)s.’ They live in a land called ‘Dorne’. The greatest knights wield a magical sword called ‘Dawn’. They are the Children of the Dawn. Would love to learn more about the other houses like Blackmont, Yronwood and Wyl. They seem to have fearsome and bloody reputations. Edit: I also fully embrace Darkstar in all his edgy glory. #FreemyboyDarkstar
@dantheman49084 жыл бұрын
I always imagined Dorne as similar to Al-Andalus. A part of Europe (Westeros) conquered and settled by people from the East (the Rhoynar).
@raeliepold42166 жыл бұрын
Really just do every location you can man. I love these videos so much! I really don't watch much KZbin anymore but I always watch these every time you post anything game of thrones lore or maps.
@MisterSifuentes4 жыл бұрын
I wish there was an Oscar equivalent on KZbin. These are amazing.
@raizer28105 ай бұрын
Darkstar was by far the most interesting new character in the books, and I was so hyped to get to know more about him, his agenda and where it all leads him, the only interesting plot along the main ones. Sadly, it's been forever and a day, and we are not an inch closer to the Winds of Winter.
@charliecaspar2284 жыл бұрын
I can not express how much I love your videos
@presidenttogekiss6352 жыл бұрын
I love how for a long while, the Dornish were enemies to the Iron Throne. And how despite being so small its so diverse, with First Men, Andals and Roinar, from the essos looking martells to the houses that look like the rest of the kingdoms.
@carlosg25416 ай бұрын
I am obsessed with the world of game of thrones so I decided to make miniatures of some of their towns I already made Lannisport and CasterlyRock and my next project is the water gardens I will use real water for the fountains and pools everywhere and gorgeous gardens, I use polymerclay, glass and styrofoam, hope I can share my work sometime, great video! 🏰🦁
@SaneMillennial6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this. Please note, it's only assumed Darkstar was the one who tried to kill Myrcella. We don't know that for sure. Could've been someone else... It was a very mysterious plot and mysterious how Hotah knew where they were so fast.
@lwizzard87425 жыл бұрын
Dorne was class in the books. Big loss to the show
@brendan98684 жыл бұрын
The Arianne story line is kinda interesting in the books, but it’s still one of the weaker plot lines. It has cool moments like the failed attempt of putting Myrcella on the throne and Arys Oakheart’s last stand, but at times it’s unbearably slow with generally uninteresting characters. Everyone acts like it was only the show that fucked up the sand snakes, but in reality they were never likable characters to begin with in the books.
@terryem056 жыл бұрын
The stormlands would be interesting.
@beartheviking96316 жыл бұрын
I love these very detailed videos their awesome also audio is a crackley
@thescrewsareneatlyfastened4 жыл бұрын
These videos lowkey helping me stay sane during quarantine
@tiagojoao18276 жыл бұрын
Make one for the region of the free cities or for riverlands
@badjuju45356 жыл бұрын
Love these vids dude! Very insightful. Keep em comin...
@ColtonRainwater5 жыл бұрын
Dorne is literally my favorite plot point in the books. I will never forgive the show for completely butchering it. It’s so complex and so important for the books! Could you imagine if they actually did what GRRM was going with all the Sand Snakes!! Uggggfhhhh! I get so sad!! :[
@callmedriftar6 жыл бұрын
Would like to see more it’s really interesting learning about the different houses
@mpalfadel20084 жыл бұрын
Great exploration of Dorne One point tho House Dayne of Starfall are not a first men house They, along with House Hightower, are remnants of the Great Empire of the Dawn, based out of Asshai Cheers
@1986arogers6 жыл бұрын
I love watching your videos! The detail and aesthetic is great :) Please make more and definitely do a map for The Iron Islands. Thank you for making them!
@dodorffr6 жыл бұрын
could you do one on the free cities? not sure how much there is indervidually but as a collective there may be enough
@SantomPh6 жыл бұрын
dodorffr quite a lot for most of them, Volantis alone could have its own videos
@diana-justtakingitonestitc61226 жыл бұрын
I'd love to watch a video for every area! This series is great and you do a wonderful job!!
@GabiN644 жыл бұрын
Dorne would be an awesome place to live in with modern tech. I guess Spain/Morocco would be the closest real life equivalent
@naturesbliss29036 жыл бұрын
I like your videos. They're very clear and great content. I like how you have the map and content side by side. The Iron Islands would be a great video.
@JSebastianMilanesi5 жыл бұрын
Mate, I really like your content. Please do more.
@Zonday88 Жыл бұрын
its crazy how deep and detailed you go
@codranine6054 Жыл бұрын
The fact that they were the only ones not conquered by dragons even so much so to kill them. Made them the most intriguing to me.
@chryzos30916 жыл бұрын
I dont wanna sound greedy but I'd love videos like this for every region.
@AlanTheLabcoat6 жыл бұрын
Please finish the series...do every region you can. Just found these and they're incredibly interesting!
@lolninja34566 жыл бұрын
I'd love it if you did all of the 7 kindoms. But especially The Stormlands, since we never really hear much about them in the show
@matthewanderson67694 жыл бұрын
Most informative, thanks man.
@KittenisKitten6 жыл бұрын
Hey, love your channel. You might want to invest in a pop sheild. As your audio has popping all over it. They are pretty cheap and will eliminate the popping from small bits of saliva hitting the mic. Look forward to more.
@AMAli-ct5df4 жыл бұрын
This just reminded me of how Tariq ibn Ziyaad burned all his armies ship after reaching spain from North Africa.
@ztry87605 жыл бұрын
most of the art work mistake dorne with Indian and middle east culture, even place like India exist in far away from westros, by the words of GRRM dorne is inspired by Andalusia in the medieval ages
@djayt12155 жыл бұрын
but that region of the iberian peninsula was heavily influenced by the Muslim caliphate. What you get is a merger of western European and central Asian cultures.
@ztry87605 жыл бұрын
@@djayt1215 Hollywood or west generally didn't try to understand eastern cultures at all. its all the same to them and people believe so now, "the Muslim caliphate in Andalusia" was expansion of the Moorish(Morocco) civilization who was closer and more influences to European than east, for example curved sword didn't existed in West north Africa until Europeans passe it on after the fall of Andalusia.(curved sword originate in japan)
@dvdextras-byvincentcorani91366 жыл бұрын
This area is based on Cornwall, a peninsula in west England. Its sandy, an some key names are the same. ~ dorn / corn
@gromenawuer16 жыл бұрын
I believe that George RR Martin thought on Spain when he wrote about Dorne...
@garlantyrell80306 жыл бұрын
Please do one on the Reach! Your videos are excellent
@fredericocr16 жыл бұрын
By far my favorite kingdom and culture from the peoples in the soiaf
@NmSwanted6 жыл бұрын
Do the Vale and the Westerlands! plz
@Moonbagger14 жыл бұрын
Italy, the most southern tip of the European continent looks like a boot. Dorne, the mouth southern tip of Westeros looks like a foot.
@shehuidris11716 жыл бұрын
Do something on the map of Essos. Those lands are bustling with long, interesting histories that we don't know about. Please do something on Essos
@angelt88496 жыл бұрын
One of the Riveerlands and Iron Islands, and also explain the Hoare kings
@robertmarks23793 жыл бұрын
Have you done a video on the sword of the morning?? I've only found your channel it's fcuking awesome, keep up the good work
@espoh6 жыл бұрын
you are my favorite youtube channel
@asap_madden92626 жыл бұрын
I feel like the storm lands are least most popular part of westeros, so a detailed map there would be nice
@equusquaggaquagga5362 жыл бұрын
The only kingdom with a proper name instead of a regional title
@Lennartin6 жыл бұрын
Darkstar probably didn’t cut Myrcellas ear off. He was most likely set up by Doran as a scapegoat.
@DragonicSociety5 жыл бұрын
I loved Dorne, and im slowly getting to the audiobooks. I felt they really should/could have done a great deal but then again I loved Sir Arthur Dayne even before we some them on the show.
@christianvennemann90086 жыл бұрын
Iron Islands, please. I think they're very interesting. Could you also talk about Victarion Greyjoy? I like Euron's character in the TV series (his actor does a great job making him both hilarious and evil), but I think Victarion is much cooler and far more intimidating.
@timomastosalo6 жыл бұрын
I'm late - but also happy that you did all the Kingdoms. Plus Beyond the Wall. It's more logical that way. Now, go through Essos culture by culture :) Alsothe Rhoynar, though their homeland is no more.
@MrMarinus185 жыл бұрын
House Uller is one of my favorite houses. They are such a combination of weird yet terrifying.
@lonyoyoung97776 жыл бұрын
Did you do one on Iron island yet ? Love your detailed maps awesome job
@whycreate6 жыл бұрын
Yup! There's a playlist on my channel with all the map videos and thank you
@MrDoob-xo3sm6 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, keep it up!!
@snakepliskin235 жыл бұрын
Dorne is like Spain 🇪🇸
@garrettlamb99166 жыл бұрын
Have u done Essos yet! I feel like that one would be interesting being 'The Motherland".
@floweywave5 жыл бұрын
Tbh I thought that Ghasten Gray (sorry If I spelled it wrong) is in Dorne too. It is one of my favorite places in Westeros :)
@cassgonz6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video!
@cassgonz6 жыл бұрын
Iron islands but also the Eyrie
@ishaagrawal21745 жыл бұрын
The only 3 good things about Dorne subplot in show- Oberyn Martell (who is one of my favorite characters), the music and the fact that it ends.
@arjunmehrotra8446 жыл бұрын
Do some battle analysis! Maybe ones glossed over in the show like battle of the whispering woods. Perhaps the siege of pyke
@codeecomah59205 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these vids
@Ihleyguy485 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure Dorn is going to help fight randomly in the finale. They have been gone for a while but will likely seek revenge in the Lanisters
@johnydeep76245 жыл бұрын
Nah u r wrong
@ralphjosephbanghulot71596 жыл бұрын
Dude, you are really awesome. Love all you GOT videos!! Thanks for this one!
@Graboli6 жыл бұрын
Yes do the iron islands there is some mad stories there in the book like Enron’s crusade
@Graboli6 жыл бұрын
Eurons
@bjoernbertges1136 жыл бұрын
How come house Manwoody didn’t make it into the video? I feel as though you may have confused them with another house, as the Manwoody’s were the ones who protected the princes pass. I saw that you put them on the map, but you didn’t talk about them. I know they aren’t known very well, but they do have a bit of history.
@SantomPh6 жыл бұрын
Obi Wan Kenobi they guard one end and the Fowlers guard the other.
@EmersonWW6 жыл бұрын
Franklyn Fowler is Warden of the Prince's Pass
@syvusvael3 жыл бұрын
The Welsh marches are in England, it’s referring to the country for which you’re creating a defensive zone.
@peytonfuller879 Жыл бұрын
I know this is super old but I’d love to know more about the iron islands
@miamininetails846 жыл бұрын
Great vids love the info
@TheeAmethystEmpress65895 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video on The High Tower? Not Old Town, The High Tower itself? That might be kinda cool.
@aysseralwan6 жыл бұрын
Iron Islands don't interest me dat much. I'd rather like to see one for the reach or stormlands. But so what you like it's just my opinion :)
@soy.sauce.latte.5 жыл бұрын
What if Jon is Ned and Ashara's son.Maybe she was at the tourney at Harrenhall,she and Ned did the thing(she was his first love before Cat) and she got pregnant.Then she gave birth to Jon.When Ned brought Dawn to Starfall and she threw herself in the sea,he decided to take Jon to Winterfell.Thats my theory since Jon has no Targaryen traits like pale skin and white/blonde hair,purple eyes.
@kashk426 жыл бұрын
The Dornish Marches not being in Dorne isn't weird at all, an March in a feudal society is an area responsible for border protection, for example Mercia got it's name for the saxon word for March since it was the area bordering Wales, and in early France there were an area called the Breton March, which bordered Brittany. The Marcher Lords (a Marquis in RL european history) are charged with defence of that border. So the Marcher lords of the stormlands and the reach defend their respective kingdoms from the Dornishmen, hence the name.
@umeshadhikari95866 жыл бұрын
Do the stormland please and the reach. And after do Iron islands after. Love you video
@JustNotIt99277 ай бұрын
Ok but how fucking dumb does one have to be to burn 10,000 ships? THATS THE BIGGEST FUCKING WASTE EVER. A WHOLE 10,000 SHIPS!?
@l23turncloak335 жыл бұрын
I'd be keen for a Greyjoy family history or a Damphair story.
@uTbCRaymanZ6 жыл бұрын
You'r awesome! Would love it could do Iron Islands!
@jackjeffery15185 жыл бұрын
Did that iron islands vid come out?
@robertardoin48862 жыл бұрын
I'm interested in knowing about everything Game of Throne related. Tell about everything! The Gray Joys aren't my favorite people but I still want to know more about them !!!
@lexfedor29674 жыл бұрын
Iron islands For sure Bro Please 🙏 continue this great Work 💯
@mattmarvel66 жыл бұрын
You should do a video about East Essos the Kingdom of Yiti and the Shadow lands I've always liked hearing about the far east lol
@theodorthorewik50056 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting if you did Valyria, but I understand that there might not be enough facts
@SantomPh6 жыл бұрын
ESCswede there are literally none as all maps and knowledge of Valyria's geography died with the Doom.
@AndileJGumbo6 жыл бұрын
Maybe go in depth on some of the locations in Essos
@Chris-hp9be6 жыл бұрын
Nice... Do a video on The Vale of Arryn...
@NinjaSlay3r6 жыл бұрын
Could you do a detailed map of each of the great castles of the seven different kingdoms?
@natheriver8910Ай бұрын
Very interesting region
@juancapurro74996 жыл бұрын
The reach
@daisyl._.l6 жыл бұрын
What about detailed maps on some parts of essos?? 🙇🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
@benheaton44866 жыл бұрын
A video on Cyrodiil would be amazing ;)
@shinobifirecracker66714 жыл бұрын
Wait what? Everyone loves Dorne and can’t wait to see them enter the fray in WoW, I think you’re misled. By far my favorite realm and characters
@dougboase11646 жыл бұрын
do a map viedo on the iron islands but also the stormlands, vale, riverlands and reach