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@Big.Stepper.7 күн бұрын
So, Archons are Holy Lords? And Void Lords are Darchons?😅
@roninkoans60657 күн бұрын
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@prophetscott6 күн бұрын
Aedra and Daedra.😮
@JojoSherrill6 күн бұрын
Shit that's good😂
@baalslayer036 күн бұрын
obviously Dark Archon
@Timosaurus486 күн бұрын
not to be confused with voidlords, which are also canon but not the same as Void Lords :')
@emilwachek29167 күн бұрын
I preferred the version from the 1000-year war, where light symbolized the belief in a single, absolute truth, while void represented the understanding that multiple conflicting truths exist. Those who embraced the void refrained from using any of these truths, instead harnessing void energies.
@bonefetcherbrimley77406 күн бұрын
Me too, shadow priests be like: "Man, shut up, I don't care about no truths! Now excuse me while I inflict the power of cringe upon my enemies."
@ZulatobariGreatforge6 күн бұрын
See, I prefer that too, but also in the theory I’ve held that there was ONE ‘Light Lord’, while there were tons of Void Lords, each representing dozens of different truths.
@emilwachek29166 күн бұрын
@@ZulatobariGreatforge Agree but personally I would not have anything against presence of many Light Lords and seeing them waging war among themselves on who is right and who doesn't.
@kingpaddy90093 күн бұрын
@@emilwachek2916 More fitting should be a collective mind with representing faces. All Lightlords have the same mindset , the same perception of truth, can speak in union. I don't think they waging war about who is right (thats the thing the void lords and especially the old gods would do), because the light represents only one right possibility. They simply see no differentiating futures, only one collective truth, that has to be enforced if the natural order of things don't comply with it.
@Shredow25 күн бұрын
Keep in mind that this is off of a "Work in Progress" picture of the cosmology chart from years and years ago. The idea has never been made canon and it might have been left on the cutting room floor.
@richritter34376 күн бұрын
It's like the acid and base chart, where azeroth is in the middle and light and void are acid and base. As you go down on either end of the chart the substances get more volitile and destructive.
@TheMrToxin7 күн бұрын
Maybe we'll discover the Archons when we visit Emperor Thoradin, he's bound to be in contact with them somehow.
@patrikzotaj45285 күн бұрын
We Hope Did the First Ones made Kyrestia in the image of the beings of the Light that came first, perhaps possibly.
@Eschatonin66666 күн бұрын
So, unless they made changes, this would imply that the Titans aren't even the top dudes of Order?
@patrikzotaj45286 күн бұрын
realms of light and void are like heaven and hell.
@Lupinemancer876 күн бұрын
So, evil and evil :D
@patrikzotaj45285 күн бұрын
if there is also light spirit healers as light angels with yellow color.
@patrikzotaj45287 күн бұрын
Kyrian are Angels of Death and Psychopomps.
@dennisking45897 күн бұрын
Entire Slands was a weak Outer Realms
@xolboh64636 күн бұрын
@dennisking4589 what does star wars have to do with it?
@mintx17207 күн бұрын
Power Overwhelming!
@xolboh64636 күн бұрын
After the last titan, the merging is complete
@Offbreed3096 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, most people are completely confused by this and unaware of where this "new info" even came from.
@xolboh64636 күн бұрын
The Bible bro
@oscargallman41785 күн бұрын
Most players have always been clueless of the lore!
@CrobatmanIamthenight7 күн бұрын
the void gods beig corrupted trasformed aaru vs the void lords being the actual "gods" of the void will ever not be confusing
@Tombstonecross7 күн бұрын
Well they are called Old Gods. But yes, a lord above a god sounds silly.
@jonathontoney23385 күн бұрын
"Power overwhelming" - some Archon probably.
@patrikzotaj45286 күн бұрын
naaru are inspired by biblical accurate angels of the old testament.
@Caaataybey6 күн бұрын
I kinda like how they re-use the name Archon from StarCraft
@Timosaurus486 күн бұрын
The term archon is a lot older than any videogame and all of us.
@patrikzotaj45286 күн бұрын
if there are also light old gods or new gods as polar counterparts and opposites of old gods.
@tylerdoyen36496 күн бұрын
Seraphim possibly?
@antoniopascotto41396 күн бұрын
they keep adding made up retcons out of nowhere its insane, the void is about lurking and deceiving, nightmares and lies hows that for morally neutral? while the light is about literally healing the wounded and protecting little kids
@Finn3h6 күн бұрын
That's like saying every German during ww2 is evil that's just not how it works buddy
@f34r0r5 күн бұрын
Hey those are voidphobic stereotypes. I know many voidpersons that are hardworking and benevolent.
@antoniopascotto41395 күн бұрын
@@f34r0r yes! just like xalaalath worked so hard to bless that elf lady by unalaving her and then using her possessed body as a vessel for the herald of doom, really highlighting the neutrality within the faction, its all just a huge misunderstanding you know
@1337Rosario4 күн бұрын
@@antoniopascotto4139 It is a misunderstanding cause if she didn't do that you wouldn't have the Xal toes to gush about. So she did that for you guys
@thepieofyourlife47996 күн бұрын
Now this makes sense, compared to the weird "Death Titans" being stronger than the Titans..... Cause we already know long long ago that the Void Lords are far stronger than titans and that the light is their counterpart.
@stefanoux10126 күн бұрын
If they really going 1 step up then the First ones sounds a ton like the Titans Boss’.
@patrikzotaj45286 күн бұрын
does the Void have Fallen Angels Not literal fallen angels, but fallen angelic beings of void with dark wings, similar to Forsworn Kyrian.
@patrikzotaj45286 күн бұрын
yes we hope so while like a reference from dark archangel talent for priests from world of warcraft.
@patrikzotaj45286 күн бұрын
can we call void creatures shadow demons as new separate name.
@totomen6667 күн бұрын
i feel like they gonna add last 2 forces to match 8 ends of cube.
@Alarak876 күн бұрын
*Archon reveal* "Power overwhelming!"
@harkenrebirth6 күн бұрын
You know what would be super interesting.. If the time Azeroth is attacked by the void Lords... The one that is leadig them ends up being a dark and destructive being that is very strong.. And when we defeat it.. or in some way find a way to weaken it.. It transforms into its Light version... And we finaly get to see.. Elune. Because think about it.. She has 2 versions.. The "Mother Moon".. But then she also has the Night Warrior side. The destructive side. Woudl be kinda funny if its a sort of split personality kind of thing.. When she is in her light version. Kind and good and all that.. But in her dark form.. She is destruction incarnate. Rage. Hate and so on. And it would be a very interesting way to introduce Elune. As a sort of plot twist. That the big bad enemy we have to face in Midnight.. Is not a void lord that we believed it was.. But Elune. And it would work well for what could possibly happen in the Last Titan Expansion after Midnight. Because now Elune is here.. And she can HELP us protect Azeroth from the Titan Pantheon. Would even be an interesting story moment when Elune meets Eonar. And you see the conflict they have...
@c.j.shotgunangel89056 күн бұрын
What really is the reason for light or void to corrupt our plain of existence? If they have a own what is so interessting here to fight wars for eternity? Is it really azeroth? Is it something else?
@patrikzotaj45286 күн бұрын
does the Light have Angels Not literal angels, but angelic beings of light with wings, similar to Kyrian.
@patrikzotaj45286 күн бұрын
yes we hope so while like a reference from ancient guardian guardian spirits libram of hope and papercraft angel minion and spell cards for paladins and priests from hearthstone, resurrection ability for paladins from warcraft 3, and avenging wrath archangel guardian of ancient kings avenging angel angelic feather and apotheosis abilities and talent for paladins and priests from world of warcraft.
@emilwachek29167 күн бұрын
Void Lord changing to Archon would be so much Kerrigan...
@Taskorilla7 күн бұрын
Lol Saregas talks it out Illadin and twaches him how to be a titan then Illidan gives in ti the light side and gets knocked up with that holy power like xera tried, they tag team the titans and sucker punch those bitch out of existance then they double team the void lords and blast them out if existance with that sweet sweet holy power eye bean that illidan now has. Now Illidan is the uber mench home iy if the last titan Sargeras when they move us into the last titan. We spend a whole expantion drinking in our olayer house with Illidan and the boys having finally stompped a mudhole in cosmological ass of this game. We all get free auction house dino bois and we get a message from a crow that didnt die, telling us that "Bros, we didnt win afterall, weve broken the order of things and now things are getting googly woogly in the universe and its gonna destroy us all. Then we get a hilogram in Mothers sanctum that shows the imoending collapse of the universe. The only possible solution is we go back and beg our time dragon homeboy who nearly lost his mind and went uber bad. He tells us he thinks he can send us back in time but the fate in inevitable! But, that crazy elf that was murdered after mastering gis portals is pulled out of time right before he was merked out and he works with Noseormu to cast a spell transporting us to a new reality, but he hasnt proven the reliability if the spell yet and wendont know if will work. Fuck it, do or die boiiii! Yeeeet! They send us theough his portal and wow goes black on that character and hes not playable. Then, a few minths later when everyones gotten in the portal, something gappens and all the characters are back in the world and BAM! World of Warcraft 2.0 with a fully rebuilt world from the ground up with dynamically changing environments, characters and cities and forests that age over time. We did it baby! We land in a new world with the same people, different quests, different stories abd were off to abother 20 years!
@robinliengehlin14817 күн бұрын
bro its impossible to read this xD
@StartRunning.7 күн бұрын
True
@nzoththecorruptor22306 күн бұрын
Got an aneurysm reading this
@Taskorilla6 күн бұрын
@@nzoththecorruptor2230 I got one writing it :D
@xolboh64636 күн бұрын
Word g
@Jessethoth6 күн бұрын
Are these the "Keepers of the Light" or is that higher up, I know about the Titan Keepers but they mentioned the "Naaru and their Keepers" many times before. As far as I know we've never seen or heard the name of any of the "Keepers" from the Light. Again not to be confused with Titan Keepers.
@grimthegrim22576 күн бұрын
Could just call the “light lords” the Aeons to once again borrow from the gnostics
@AlexB.7784 күн бұрын
Any thoughts on the crads from the new Hearthstone expantion? Is Lumia a light lord? Is the 8 hands from beyond a void lord?
@dennisking45897 күн бұрын
I love you man but I have NO idea what Dexters labratory phased in there at the beginning...
@mw29846 күн бұрын
if thios comes true I predict that the voidlords und light lords are basically the same race/species just with oposite worldview. thats it... the most basic conception of a plot in this style
@kukivave6 күн бұрын
I suspect, that given Reality is a "machine" that the Jailer was trying to remake.... That Light and Void are like the positive and negative poles of a battery... Power is moving from one to the other through Reality powering it.... Since one has to have an extreme negative charge, and the other a positive charge, as energy is used, the charges start to equalize and you can even potentially flip the charges which could explain why Naru can turn Void, and mean that Void Lords can turn light... If Azeroth is a giant "potential" energy source, then both Light and Void maybe trying to claim her to either keep themselves Void/Light or to convert the opposing faction.
@insanemang99836 күн бұрын
Based on the alternate timeline where light holds dominion, instead of chaos its tyranicle order so both sides are pretty 💩
@BloodstarDE4 күн бұрын
I saw a image where Archons are mentioned above Naaru. How can I make a video around that information?
@Timosaurus486 күн бұрын
Does Lothraxion fit into this somehow? I don't know what i don't know anymore...
@patrikzotaj45287 күн бұрын
did elune create the naaru during ordering of light and void.
@oscargallman41785 күн бұрын
Void is not ordered, the void is Chaos.
@patrikzotaj45285 күн бұрын
yeah but i'm just talking about elune created the naaru if she is related to the cosmic forces.
@Spamkromite4 күн бұрын
Dang this is slowly moving into Xel'naga territory. And yeah, I miss Starcraft and I can't stand Kerrigan's ultimate apotheosis...
@LeeroyJenkins947 күн бұрын
please tell me its not the archons from bastion but some completely new ones
@molinaf1cation7 күн бұрын
So it’s based on Gnosticism? That’s pretty interesting. That means the God of Warcraft would be the main villain.
@GCSportR6 күн бұрын
Yep, also the Azeroth is a prison planet per the latest quest line with the earthen. lol
@xolboh64636 күн бұрын
The true God / Clockmaker ends up being Asmongold. The lore fits
@efthio6 күн бұрын
They will be called "benedict" s and benedict cumberbatch will be main light lord
@galten73616 күн бұрын
Reminder that Designer Dave said across his videos and social media that actual gods who are across the universe rather than ancient aliens and ascended beings were not envisioned in the setting back in the RTS games to Vanilla.
@patrikzotaj45287 күн бұрын
wraith lords are eternal ones.
@saturnaurora88917 күн бұрын
Light and Void are equal to eachother, and we see the fight for Azeroth is to tip the scales. The Naaru were never the void lord equal, not from how the lords are described. So it shouldn't be a surprise these Archons exist. And definitely they also can't manifest in the universe. I am in favor of Azeroth being a First One, I don't know what else is strong enough to tame the Void or the Light.
@LeeroyJenkins947 күн бұрын
Azeroth is indeed the First one, Prime Titan, First Titan
@KineticAmmo6 күн бұрын
The Bastion’s leader?
@Eilaura4 күн бұрын
Is xalatath a fallen archon?
@erikaw77677 күн бұрын
Is this even confirmed? Lol it was an old drawing?
@epiccthulu7 күн бұрын
All they did was copy the Forgotten Realms cosmology wheel without the neutral alignments. Sargeras is Tharizdune
@Orvos-5 күн бұрын
StarCraft and Warcraft same universe confirmed?
@patrikzotaj45285 күн бұрын
and diablo.
@patrikzotaj45287 күн бұрын
can they resemble real winged angels of light.
@c.j.shotgunangel89057 күн бұрын
Would look so cool man 😮
@Supbrozki7 күн бұрын
Nah, thats the kyrians. Give me biblical angels. Like a mix of Naruu and old gods. Crazy eldritch beings, just alot more benevolent than the void lords.
@patrikzotaj45287 күн бұрын
no.
@galten73616 күн бұрын
@@Supbrozki "muh Biblical angels" There is enough biblical evidence that angels could appear as men and that also man could become an angel.
@valravn99077 күн бұрын
this may sound out of this world and ORIGINAL but, hear me out...: The counterpart definitive name for the Light version of the Void Lords is... ready for it? ... The Light Lords. Please clap, i'm highly original ty
@jd_277 күн бұрын
I doubt they could reveal anything higher up in the light because the whole light thing is too synonymous with real life religion
@justinhicks37837 күн бұрын
If there is void lords there are light lords yinyang
@TheJacob2327 күн бұрын
So we understand Azeroth will be the Agent of Balance kinda like a Disc Priest. At this point this is almost certainly happening. Only question is how it gets expressed. Unity and Balance will be the key theme
@UpNorth_Woodlander7 күн бұрын
Archons = ff knights of the round
@dept3087 күн бұрын
a light void lords right, they're just pulling shit out their ass now it's genuinely so sad.
@Newarkguy387 күн бұрын
Hallowed are the ori
@ScarlettSpitfyre7 күн бұрын
In writing circles, when you come up as a writer/ creator with more and more new lore and mysteries without explaining the old ones, that is what it is called "bad writing". It is as bad as the explanation of J J Abrams for how he makes movies: a mystery box into a mystery box about a mystery box of a mystery box. He did the exact same thing to countless mobies and series: Lodt, Star Trek, Star Wars, Revolution, Almost Human, Alcatraz, Cloverfield, Fringe, Mission Impossible 3 and many more. All of them started good, with original ideas and then, ended badly with rehashed ideas from other creators or simply just got cancelled. He can't finish a story... Same here: when you come up with new lore and not explaining the old one and its mysteries, that is bad writing... Atrocious even..
@dennisking45897 күн бұрын
Fringe ended well.
@galten73616 күн бұрын
@ScarlettSpitfyre Unfortunately the ones actually writing WoW think stuff like New Stars and the MCU and GoT and anything praised by reddit/tumblr/Musk Net as high art.
@ScarlettSpitfyre5 күн бұрын
@@dennisking4589 Ended well? In what universe? From a series with 20+ episodes each season to a steep ending with only 6 or 7 episodes? And this is not something I say, the actors said it that in the last season it should have been 3 small arcs and 4 overall with the 1 arc for all series.
@Eilaura4 күн бұрын
Called the archon SMH my head
@petrruzicka98156 күн бұрын
Gnosticizm Archons
@ephasm7 күн бұрын
Light > Life and Order = Creation. Void > Death and Chaos = Entropy
@beerexpert10576 күн бұрын
That's what I always thought as well. Death probably been part of the void until it was ordered.
@christianblocker17826 күн бұрын
If they're doing cosmic lore they need to stop explaining so much and stop making them look like normal people but sized up, and if they took some more story elements from horror games the lore would be so much better, every single time Warcraft gets a little spooky the writers suddenly get superhuman powers
@godwishyoutube7 күн бұрын
Ahhh cmon blizzard
@Magick737 күн бұрын
Nephilim
@LightLordY6 күн бұрын
🌞
@NostraDavid27 күн бұрын
I bet the Wraith Lords were transformed into the leaders of the Shadowlands, over time. Seeing the Wild Gods live on Azeroth, it's not far fetched these "Wraith Lords" live in the Shadowlands. I bet the Winter Queen and Xovaal effectively fill in the roll of Wraith Lords.
@Yui7146 күн бұрын
I don't like a single piece of lore that the World of Warcraft team has come up with in the past 15 years and it keeps getting worse. The biggest sin you can commit when your world has magic is to explain in, and Blizzard has started making up new ways to explain magics that we never questioned. You know whats not magic? Magic that is explained is no longer magic. They are stripping the Warcraft universe of all wonder and imagination by forcing very specific explanations for everything. Theres no mystery left. No wondering what anything in Azeroth might be like because it's all explained. Theres nothing left in the Warcraft universe except the awful new races they keep coming up with.
@Bramandin3 күн бұрын
Naaru are obviously world of warcraft angels. I could elaborate extensively.
@DaGhost836 күн бұрын
The Wraith Lords is who we probably should be wondering about. Matter of Fact, who looks like a "Wraith" thats a necromancer in the Shadowlands? (PRIMUS) anyone??
@bonefetcherbrimley77406 күн бұрын
I am going to be blunt here, I am tired boss. I am tired of all this cosmic crap, its just not interesting, to me at least. I think the issue from me stems from the fact they're just too big to really be invested in.
@draconian_dragonlord7 күн бұрын
But, the Naaru are the original equivalent to void lords. So blizzard just keeps on making new lore and discarding the old lore. It is like tolkien would come back to life, burn all his books and rewrite middle-earth with modern BS trend additions. I must say I have zero interest in this new lore.
@erikaw77677 күн бұрын
Not really...they never said that, players drew that parallel. You can use the cosmo chart and say that, but they neve4 said that
@galten73616 күн бұрын
@draconian_dragonlord Tolkien was a WW1 vet who was actually a pro historian for his country and linguist. Hardly any settings match Middle-Earth since not that many writers have Tolkien's knowledge and experiences. And Tolkien unlike others actually bothered to make his overall worldbuilding before releasing his book while still having having points in it he had problems with like the orcs.
@Timosaurus486 күн бұрын
fun fact; we have voidlords and Void Lords, which aren't the same thing lol 'writing'
@piotrwesoowski21907 күн бұрын
What if azeroth is one of the first ones
@patrikzotaj45285 күн бұрын
no she is just a prime world soul.
@KazioWihura-t6s5 күн бұрын
tired of the constant retcons
@raarnt7 күн бұрын
They'll keep it vague, cuz they're too afraid to offend real life christians