UPGRADING a Brand NEW M4 Mac mini

[@DavidWasman]

omg when I saw the tear down and saw the SSD was swappable, I literally said "I wonder how long 'til dosdude upgrades one" and wow. This is record time! BRAVO!

[@animecutscenes3414]

Literally same!😂 It only took 44 minutes and this is the same guy who upgraded his m1 mac studio too

[@waddahrasengan3414]

Definitely amazing i thought it might take few weeks

[@kalvin126]

“SSD” doesn’t even have to be swappable for dosdude to upgrade it.

[@Warp2090]

apple users when a computer lets you upgrade something that should've always been upgradable: OMG!!1111 AMAZING!11

[@JeffTiberend]

I don’t care if the ram can’t be upgraded. But, the fact that he can replace the chips and upgrade the memory should be a slap in the face to Apple. You would think that they would just make this something that a user could do.

[@maxschmidt666]

This might actually one of the best YT videos I have seen in a while: -Extremely well explained -You actually show every single step -You admit when things are not working -You also talk about prices for the chips Your skills are really, really useful and helping people out not getting exploited by shady greedy Apple corp.

[@dosdude1]

Thanks! I try to explain and show the processes done in these videos in enough detail so that anyone with the tools and skills can replicate what I do.

[@chrisloydchristie4991]

@@dosdude1 Where do we get to buy the K6 B2 nand?

[@dosdude1]

@@chrisloydchristie4991 They are available from AliExpress.

[@billfusionenterprise]

@@dosdude1 You one issue with the nands may be a speed OS issue. I seen it 30 years ago in several custom systems, where dianogs ran OK, but when OS booted the system crashed. It was why we had for one system a can't use together list for a phone system

[@rogerwilco2]

90 dollars and a lot of soldering skill and some special gear. Respect. This is beyond my skill level.

[@carsonlockwood4936]

That’s what I said too

[@OdinReactor]

Don't forget the $160 memory he bought that didn't work. That is also part of the expense.

[@fairestmink4023]

KZbin algorithm is incredible, just watched tear down video of mini few hours back, wondered how long I have to wait till someone releases SSD upgrade video and here I go!!!

[@tonymantinelli6747]

DosDude1 is one of a kind..Apple knows there's only just a few people out there in the world that have the skills to do this upgrade and DosDude1 is one of them!! Bravo and hats off!!

[@whette_fahrtz]

"i gotta go get a mac running sequoia" cut to an imac g4 lmao

[@Ciaolo]

That was so funny 😂

[@mewity]

opencore legacy patcher really does wonders! /s

[@DickVanPaiton]

What about using the other mac with pre-sequoia and using the right (middle) port?

[@TohPhimmasenh]

Thats what I thought too 🤣🤣

[@arricammarques1955]

M4 mini swap with G4 cube!

[@CreativeMindsAudio]

it would be cool to see you or someone start selling the 'cards' or NVME drives with new NAND on it cause that's a lot of work. I'd love a 8TB drive for the price of a 512GB plus NAND😂. I'm just not skilled like that.

[@fujinshu]

Already is happening with the Mac Studio over at Polysoft, but will probably take a while for new Mac Mini compatible NAND modules to be made.

[@delasantos]

@@fujinshu Yeah but Polysoft is asking "premium" prices. Basically not affordable. Agree though! Only a matter of time. Will Apple try to block this though?

[@CreativeMindsAudio]

@ awesome thanks! I’ll be on the look out. Figured someone was doing it.

[@chinito77]

Someone's going to make a killing when mini drives are for sale. Anything is better than what apple charges in house.

[@fujinshu]

@@chinito77 It's probably going to be Polysoft, if they can find a way to retool their Mac Studio PCBs for the Mac Mini.

[@cstanutube]

Great idea to use the new Mac mini upside down. No issue accessing the power button now!

[@__Lento__]

and now it has a nice pedestal for your coffee cup too!

[@zsoltpeterdaniel8413]

And it keeps the cofee warm​@@__Lento__

[@ginglyst]

@@__Lento__ :shudder:

[@hruntingson]

Better airflow too

[@EricHadley]

u mean right way up

[@owen-trombone]

Me clicking on the video: OMG I’m gonna get a Mini and do this too! Me at 19:31: 😱 I’m never gonna do this

[@CalvinTheII]

lemmie tell you!!!! That re-balling HUMBLED ME SO FAST!!!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@chiluco2000]

you need balls to reball-it! 🤣🤣

[@soundguyldn]

This should be the top comment 😂 same here!

[@Ronald-Reggae]

Grow some b...s :)

[@robhephner]

I'm like "re-NOPE."

[@shepherd29]

Well, thank you for being in the community and doing such awesome things. I’ve been following you since I needed to upgrade a 2009 white MacBook and I stumbled on your Sierra Patcher. Since then I’ve made it to a hobby to buy old Macs dirt cheap and install new software with your tools. Most of the other solutions are buggy but yours work very well.

[@CMBurns1000]

26:22 it’s not only flashing, it morses SOS, which is phenomenal

[@mewity]

that was a thing since basically the beginning of MacBooks

[@CMBurns1000]

@mewity I know, they used to beep. That reminiscence is what makes it phenomenal 😉

[@billgates3699]

Have you looked up the definition of “phenomenal” or do you just use words to sound wordy?

[@yootubah887]

@@billgates3699 chill out billiam

[@zizhdizzabagus456]

Apple being apple

[@andre-le-bone-aparte]

Bob Dos: Today we are going to paint some happy little NAND clouds...

[@igordasunddas3377]

Awesome comment man 😂

[@spencefinch29]

Dosdude you’ve got skills. Very impressive man. Your passion is infectious. Thanks for being at the forefront of the upgradeability/repairability community - you’re flying the flag high.

[@HeangKoing]

My man has skills. Great video and content!

[@owen-trombone]

I was blown away by this video.

[@tecnopadre]

Man, your work worth lots more than the upgrade for humans like men using it online to Mac. Awesome work.

[@rboerdijk76]

wow, didn't think it was possible to reball by hand. I meddled a bit with some chips with 4x4 and "messed till it worked", but never even considered this to be plausible on this level... Using the stencils to squeeze the solder in, and then just heat it up while still in the stencil is just brilliant, thanks for showing this technique!

[@fullofnuts]

steady hands required 😂

[@rboerdijk76]

@@fullofnuts yeah, I won't be trying _that_ anytime soon... still, to know that it's possible at all is... wow...

[@TylerStartz]

I knew it was coming, but I didn’t expect this quick! Great work man. Insane.

[@dosdude1]

You know I had to!

[@niyazzmoithu20]

me too😂.

[@miatafied]

It’s such a good price on these but they’re neutered by the small storage

[@JeffGeerling]

In before 1 million views.

[@waddahrasengan3414]

Jeff no Pi's here

[@rem_0]

How is gpu on raspberry pi project goes so far? Is there any news that wasn't in newest videos?

[@JeffGeerling]

@@rem_0a lot actually! Got the 6000 series AMD cards working well, and now working on 7000 series!

[@jessiethedude]

A teardown and storage upgrade on the MBP will probably have a ton of views too

[@Ying-yang6969]

Hdy Jeff

[@EyesOfByes]

Linus LTT just gave you a shoutout less than ten minutes ago on WAN show livestream! Your timing is unintenionally perfect! :D

[@JunaidHasan23]

Yeah for time stamp it is around 1 hour and 32 minutes into the livestream

[@jessiethedude]

I think he did it last week too. Or at least brought it up

[@magfal]

​@@jessiethedude he didn't remember the name of any specific channel last week.

[@emadhamidnaja]

I think he talked about iboff RCCs channel not Dosdude

[@xumatyt]

I guess that's why YT recommended this video to me. I watched that WAN show

[@Treegrower]

You're a legend! I wish this process was easier for the average person, but its still really cool that it's possible!

[@zublacus]

The crazy part is manufacturing these things on an industrial scale is remarkable.

[@c4n0]

protect this man at all costs!

[@owen-trombone]

This isn’t Boeing 😂

[@casey2230]

bro acting like as if he's being hunted by FBI

[@BlackCubeSimulation]

With your keyboards!

[@jordanwoodstock902]

No Mac mini video will ever compete looool man unboxed broke down and upgraded the SSD within a week on the product being out videoed edited and uploaded. This is some crazy work

[@dplj4428]

waiting for a casual commentary by jerrtrigeverything.

[@DjBlacid]

ppl just receiving mac minis today, just today the swappable ssd news broke out then i recalled you already swapped a mac studio ssd, so i was rewatching that, and in recommended there's already your video swapping a m4 mini ssd lmao, you're insane dude kudos

[@neetop1557]

wow, ur sch a smrt n' cnning flla!

[@laurentjalaber]

My god ! Your old monitor is just perfect with this new Mac mini 😍

[@El.Duder-ino]

Apple should offer this type of storage upgrading on all of their Macs, including selling of different storage options. Thx for making this vid!👍

[@swooshdave]

Don’t hold your breath. You see how much they charge to upgrade the storage from new.

[@El.Duder-ino]

@@swooshdave A lot and much more than on the PC, however at least it will be modular and easier for the repairers to solder replacement NAND chips.

[@rosaria8384]

They will never do it.

[@joesalyers]

Well this was quick!! LOL I thought about you as soon as I saw the teardowns on other channels today. I said next week we will see dosdude get his hands on a Mac Mini. Well I was off by a WEEK and here we are!! AWESOME! Cheers!

[@Worthless.]

dude literally ran to his door.. got the package.. ripped it open... .brought it to his desk... started his camera and started recording 2TB... that musta cost you AT LEAST $700+ that's so much storage! i can't even IMAGINE

[@dosdude1]

That is literally exactly what I did.

[@Worthless.]

just finished the video... 160$ for 2TB... someone tell apple they're overcharging just a little bit. i hope someone sells those modules so ppl can easily upgrade the storage.. that would be awesome to not have to pay $1000 for storage upgrades

[@goclunker]

Laughs in 6tb, but not apple

[@dosdude1]

@@goclunker Up to 8TB is possible on the M4 Pro model, which supports 8 NAND chips.

[@goclunker]

@ 😯 i feel a future video! 8TB is mad impressive. One day when I scrounge some cash together, I would like to hire you for a 7448 to a 17" powerbook 1.67ghz upgrade! My heart and mind are stuck in the powerpc world. Maybe we can make my 12" 1.5ghz powerbook a 7448 as well. I bought 6 of them when they last popped up on ebay hahaha. There are still some affordable network switches and other processing cards on eBay with 7448s in them.

[@scottsmall9898]

Just like that all the new balls are seated and ready to go...I tried this and all I've got to say is this man is a PROFESSIONAL. I love all your videos and I knew you were going to be the first to do this to the new Mac Mini. Thank you

[@jackgerberuae]

Where do you get the reballing kit and templates? I guess my question is by the time you have the specific kit to change that M4 chip, you would not to be far off of a bought and guaranteed Mac?

[@MikeLikesChannel]

You got brass balls desoldering the NAND and placing new ones so precisely. -Former ACMT

[@StudentRadioITromso]

Hard task to master @mikelikeschannel

[@MathiasRstJensen]

@@StudentRadioITromso❤

[@kentbyron7608]

Word!

[@SidneyCritic]

northwestrepair regularly replaces all the VRAM chips on a graphics card, plus RnR's GPU, ie, the PCBs are garbage and usually pulls pads, or the balls just detach/crack. I don't know, maybe 4000s balls just on one card.

[@passportmarc]

How do you align it correctly ? seems like he is eyeballing it but probably not

[@hadi8348]

One of the less frustrating videos out there. You talk about basically everything that I would have had to ask in other videos. Awesome job man !

[@Jamey_ETHZurich_TUe_Rulez]

He even shows that original storage is same speed as on my 2014 macbook air

[@photonganglol2413]

do you nerds know why he has to solder the storage chips? Are you allowed to just swap the whole m.2 card?

[@hadi8348]

@@photonganglol2413 You could if it was a regular m.2 card. It's actually not, it's Apple proprietary, and no third-party is selling these (yet), so that's the only solution for now. But won't be for long, so if you're not in a hurry, I suggest that you wait for a few months until someone just releases those.

[@photonganglol2413]

@@hadi8348 Yah that's a good idea. I'm not the best at soldering and de-soldering literally gives me nightmares so i would for sure mess this up. Thanks though this helps a lot.

[@shilofax293]

I was so anticipating this video the moment I saw that the SSD was not soldered. Thanks for making it!

[@Josue143803]

We all expected this, I just didn't expect it to be this soon lol

[@MEGARUSHBASE]

Yeah lol

[@sokh1590]

Can u say u why u expected this, apple being anti repair I least expected this

[@bocahdongo7769]

Same module with Mac Studio btw

[@Purposable]

Little note, the amber light in DFU mode is flashing S.O.S. in Morse code

[@lovelytingy]

Nice thinking of developers

[@RogueCylon]

Apple still making it ever harder to upgrade and restore. Finally a proper upgrade. New sub here.

[@oshanehall3470]

We need to protect this man. Also teach us the learning path so hardware enthusiasts can follow in your shoes

[@MacinMindSoftware]

Got mine today too. Just for reference, the factory 1 TB config runs about 3 GB/s too.

[@dalexfilms]

No whining, just the helpful info... That's a gentleman, thank you.

[@ahmetdenizsezgin]

Bro sacrificed his money to give us info

[@RealMrStoofus]

M4 Pro with 2TB runs ~6.8GB/s Read, ~5GB/s write

[@alastairleith8612]

⁠@@RealMrStoofusM4 Pro mini RAM has double the bandwidth according to Apple. funny thing is the 24 → 48 GB upgrade on the Pro is at $12.50/GB while the upgrade on base model mac minis say 16 → 32 GB is $25/GB. predatory pricing from Apple once again!

[@AlexMkd1984]

​@@RealMrStoofusmore like 3 gb 🤣🤣🤣🤣 stop lying

[@macwake]

So glad you don't have to preprogram those NANDs any more. Nice one, especially doing this to your very first new mac even before really using it

[@raymondm.3748]

Whooo! Yeah baby! Thats what we’ve all been waiting for, that’s what it’s all about! Whooo!

[@khalidnamry4594]

اضن ان آبل لن تكون سعيدة بما فعلت .... انت شجاع و متمكن احسنت يا رجل 🎉

[@misterfilmguy]

Really impressive! There is a zero percent chance of me doing this myself, but it was really interesting to watch and learn about.

[@BMANZZS]

Dosdude makes this look about 100x easier than it actually is. Not only that, but you need very expensive equipment. This guy is a fuckin pro.

[@clickykbd]

I would argue that bit about the tools is not actually true. A hot air station is pretty basic tool (and there are affordable ones out there). The solder paste and mask is likely to be the least familiar task for anyone who has not done this kind of rework. But certainly not for the faint of heart if you are not comfortable with those tools.

[@rars0n]

All he's using is a hot air machine, which is not expensive at all.

[@peterbooth6753]

@@rars0n I would net let my own fat fingers near the internals of a Mac Mini, a Macbook Pro or an iMac but it makes for great viewing.

[@gtcdma]

Equipment is not that expensive. You can get a decent soldering hot air gun for, like, $200.

[@fujitsubo3323]

@@gtcdma probably 1 in 1 million people would have this Equipment laying around or the skills to do the upgrade. i think the upgrades cool and all but its hardly a life saver for the average joe. once you pay for the extra storage chips and pay someone to install it without destroying the board you could have just paid the BS apple tax and bought the 2tb version.

[@7hx89]

Good to see you in action, as always. The all mighty dosdude!

[@blk124]

Mr dosdude you are a legend. Thank you for your efforts

[@Brownie-956]

This is unintentional ASMR. Compelling to watch and listen to. Nice job 👍

[@azhyhama9649]

Not a mac user, and my first time here. Your dedication made me stay! Subbed!

[@leeminh2401]

$90 to upgrade to 1tb, Apple could never

[@Warp2090]

90$ Is absurd

[@therealuzr]

It’s the price for used chips, that’s been grabbed most of the times from icloud locked ipads and macs

[@przemoziolkowski]

@@therealuzr But I think it needs to be brand new empty chip. Not sure :)

[@BillAnt]

This is absolute madness, wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. A computer is meant to be easily upgradable, they might as well seal it in a glob of resin. lol

[@therealuzr]

@@przemoziolkowski not quite like that. It’s need to be erased on a programmer (what Chinese technicians do before sell) In some devices as i remember the part (or partition) from old nand need to be programmed into new chip so it’s gonna show up as a dfu so you can restore it

[@Zoki333]

Damn. For a hot second I thought I’d be able to just buy and install a new part. Thanks Apple Also you’re doing gods work

[@fujinshu]

Not yet, but if the Mac Studio is anything to go by, there CAN probably be a new carrier board for these chips.

[@LoganDark4357]

There WILL be third-party modules that just drop in

[@sadiporter2966]

@@LoganDark4357 you still need an extra mac to install the os though.

[@joeynessily]

@@sadiporter2966you can buy another mini, it will still probably be cheaper than the storage upgrade 😂

[@bennaambo2716]

@@sadiporter2966actually the part where the mac is needed is to reprogramm the Nands

[@imacg5]

25:40 This dude just solved the biggest design complaint of M4 Mac mini.

[@affieuk]

That's an awesome idea, would also reduce the resistance to air being pushed out, since there is no obstruction to the vents now. Doubt it'll be noticeable though.

[@simongreenidge6454]

In some situations, this might also improve WiFi performance; by positioning the antennas / antennae at the "top" of the machine.

[@troywalt4834]

dust is obviously going to be an issue in this position in my opinion, plus the only people complaining about the power button are people that are not aware that you don't even need to power off your mac since it uses very little energy when on sleep.

[@marjoriegoldspur6798]

@@troywalt4834 I always turn mine off when not using it because I'm afraid of power surges, lightning strikes, or power outages. (Of course, any one of these things could happen while I'm using the machine, but turning it off when not using it reduces the likelihood of it happening while the machine is running.)

[@sammydavis991]

@@marjoriegoldspur6798yeah, you might get hit by lightning.

[@SkyOctopus1]

I love how you use the word "just", then proceed to do some prestidigitation followed by black magic.

[@MdEmranKabir]

I can’t believe you did it on the very first day . Hats off man . Well done

[@gtretroworld]

I wasn’t expecting the new M4 Mini to be so modifiable so i opted for 512, looks to be definitely worth upgrading in the future. Thanks for the video buddy.

[@f4micom]

dosdude is the GOAT as always

[@tibr]

f4mi :D

[@HenryKlausEsq.]

Eyyyy it's f4mi

[@velocity211]

that solder paste is a massive improvement over the old method of the individual solder balls...

[@JonTrott]

You're my diversion from post-election misery. I'm not an owner of any M series Mac, but simply enjoy watching you tweak these machines. The most astonishing bits here, as always, is reballing the chip. I just know I'd blunder at that stage. You do it so deftly.

[@barchilla10]

FrankenMac Lives Great Work Doctor!!!

[@HikikomoriDev]

I think that will be really helpful in the future as the original SSD can burn out and you won't be able to boot the Machine any further. However, another solution is to get a high end USB C flash drive and boot the entire computer from that. Not only can you find specific sizes of USB C storage devices that can suit your need, you can also get a larger virtual memory block along with that. Then swap out the old flash drive when the cells no longer hold in years terms.

[@KarrasBastomi]

OWC would come with 2TB NAND board in a week or two for 300USD. This base M4 MacMini is GOAT.

[@DistinctiveMusic]

I am probably able to replace the entire board, but no way I will attempt to replace the NAND chips on the board.

[@Youtuber-ku4nk]

The unbinned M4 Pro is the real GOAT

[@nq2847]

In another word, I don’t have to solder? Like just swap it and it’s ready to go?

[@erkinalp]

@@DistinctiveMusic you need to replace both modules though (because it's not NVMe, it's raw NAND modules configured as a stripe array)

[@DistinctiveMusic]

@ I meant replacing the entire PCB.

[@guillermocespedes6231]

Your expertise is in another level, thank you for sharing!

[@stabironabb]

Watching the power of the M4 Mac mini transform with this upgrade is amazing! It's like unleashing a whole new level of potential in an already impressive machine. Who else is thinking about upgrading theirs now

[@StudentRadioITromso]

Definitively worthy of Upgrade @stabironabb

[@TonyHawk33]

Don't know what power you mean. It's literally less stress to just buy the 256gig model which also has two nands and just plug in an external ssd.

[@Primeyy]

chatgpt ahh comment

[@dionhouston]

Really great video! Watching the reconstruction of the NAND portion, I just said "I'm not worthy" - definitely not an upgrade I could do, but it's nice that it -is- upgradeable! Bravo!

[@uchihakeyblade]

Seeing you use that heat gun made me shiver. I usually would have thrown some kind of shielding tape over those capacitors just to be on the safe side. But I'm being paranoid. Awesome vid :)

[@Gaius_Julius_Caesar]

Your business is going to skyrocket

[@theshadowman1398]

Finally a teardown video of this bloody thing. And it sucks so much. I remember the good old days when that the bottom would just released by giving it a small twist and you could upgrade the ram and hard drive. I demand those days back.

[@Youtuber-ku4nk]

Upgradable ram would make it slower since they would have to be off the soc

[@theshadowman1398]

@ You give it a rest. Like most people would even notice that their desktop will be a couple of seconds slower with editing a video. If it’s not user upgradable, when you need more you are forced to buy a complete new computer. Not exactly friendly for the environment now is it like apple claims they are.

[@Youtuber-ku4nk]

@@theshadowman1398 It’s not like you would through it away. You would sell it and someone would buy it instead of a new one.

[@theshadowman1398]

@@KZbinr-ku4nk Simpleton, I prefer to keep my computer for many years. My 2012 3rd Gen i5 lasted me for over a decade because both storage and RAM were upgradable. And RAM modules and SSDs cost considerably less than buying a new computer

[@jacobm2625]

​@@theshadowman1398 you prove his point by saying that old computers are still usable. Some people like their stuff upgradable, some don't know or care. 🤷‍♂️

[@Bliss467]

Congrats on successful upgrade! Very impressive. Sorry about the bad 1TB nands

[@Samdasse]

What a quick and easy upgrade than anybody at home can do! Thanks god apple made it so easy for anybody to upgrade storage 😂

[@georgezecheru256]

😅

[@ruinatorssf]

You're a legend for just saying you need a Sequoia machine and swapped your MacBook air for an iMac g4. I won't see anything better on the internet today.

You may only be a DOS dude, but you are a Mac god.

[@PearComputingDevices]

Incredible job! I thank you for buying a mini and sharing this with us. I appreciate this!

[@randomadvice2487]

1M views!!!!!! I’m sure one of those views is Tim Cook, with a big smile on his face. How could Tim not respect the ingenuity of Dosdude!

[@ShaferHart]

Thank you for showing the performance test for the base M4 every reviewer got the Pro version.

[@StraightOuttaContent]

This guy is an avenger 😂🤣

[@Kavyatej]

32:40 gigabytes is technically correct

[@wtfismyhandle]

Thanks!

[@LordJasonKing]

Wow, I was expectling at least 6 weeks befre somone had a pop at this! Well done and thanks.

[@nightpanda2109]

base Mac mini with ssd swap is great value for money 🥳

[@dayworkhard]

Best m4 Mac mini review until now 🎉

[@DarkPa1adin]

I always love it when people do work arounds for the Apple tax

[@6581punk]

The Apple jail. Want more storage? sorry, it's a proprietary module, that'll be £800 please. If you want an easier life, use technology built around standards and interoperability.

[@masterkamen371]

If I was purchasing one, I'd have gotten the base spec and put the fast USB to good use. 1 TB SSDs are like $60 nowadays. 4 TB HDDs are $85 apparently.

[@jkj420]

@@6581punk That is not an easier life. Just a cheaper one.

[@Ryzen-4090-i3n]

@@masterkamen371 eh i saw 1 on sale for 60$ but i think it was there for more then a year so... ye apple tax is crazy

[@abc123fhdi]

@@masterkamen371 true since it's not a MacBook external storage is less of an issue and still pretty fast.

[@FOM_extras]

I honestly think this is the coolest video I 've ever seen on this platform subscribed !

[@Thebestgamer021]

i really love every video of dosdude :D hopefully you can sucessfully upgrade this mac mini to 2 or 8tb soon ;) greetings from switzerland

[@taylor1038]

Forever thankful I can just plunk an new m.2 drive in my Windows laptop or PC.

[@BillyBlazeTheKeenest]

You sir are a legend.

[@amitkumar-wj8gn]

Apple has billions. Dosdude has tools. Dosdude makes KZbin better. Those who agree will like this comment (and yes, I am seeking attention lol).

[@costincalit7737]

attention given

[@amitkumar-wj8gn]

@@costincalit7737many thanks!!

[@danielkinney6325]

Apple is now a TRILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS. IT HAS BEEN IN THE TRILLION $$ for a while now

[@TurkeyJoe]

The design of these things is exquisite.

[@csimet]

I just pulled the trigger on a base model myself... glad to hear it can be upgraded and will probably do so as soon as the warranty runs out and whole new module cards are available. Happy to see Apple made a reasonably priced base model that is plenty powerful enough for most typical people. For me, I got it in place of an AppleTV for my home theater. For a decent cost you get a real computer that can also play AppleTV content and run many applications, all on my large screen 4K TV.

[@ste76539]

This is the first time I've seen one of these. The layout is just...I mean, what were they thinking? Power button on the underneath? No audio output at the back, where a normal person would want to plug in their desktop speakers?

[@owen-trombone]

Gotta love the clean, black, sleek design of the INTERIOR of the Mac. Something 99.999% of owners will never see. But nevertheless Apple sweats the details and makes it look good. That’s the Jobs legacy still carrying on.

[@ledocteur7701]

it mostly just makes it harder to repair since nothing is labeled. You could do this whole upgrade process that involves soldering, specialized tools, and voiding your warranty. or.. you could buy a non-apple mini-PC, open it up with the easily accessible screws, unplug the standard SSD inside, and plug in a higher capacity one from any brand. But I guess some black paint is worth more than being consumer friendly.

[@owen-trombone]

@ Some people like Rolex, some people like Timex 🤷

[@ledocteur7701]

@@owen-trombone With rolex you pay for the brand, but at least the quality is the same, if not better than Timex. With Apple, you get straight up worse products (with a few exceptions, airpods are pretty dang good even if slightly overpriced) while also paying for the brand. And Apple isn't even all that exclusive anyways, someone has a rolex I'm like "This guy is rich", someone has a brand new IPhone I'm like "This guy is stupid."

[@owen-trombone]

@ some people just have better taste, it’s ok. One day you might get there too. I believe in you!

[@ledocteur7701]

@@owen-trombone I like my tech products to actually work well and be worth what I paid for them. I can't play most games on macOS, nor can I use the softwares my work requires. Maybe some day you'll realize computers can do more than browse the internet and edit photos, although I would be lying if I said I believe in you, seeing how brain dead all the Apple propaganda made you.

[@igordasunddas3377]

Man, if Apple had sane prices and swappable components, all Macs would become a defacto standard and often a no-brainer...

[@Speedy500]

Once there is the software support for it, though then again, if Macs became dominant then the software support would follow, I wish Apple used the LPCAMM2 RAM modules rather than the LPDDR soldered modules, they have to my knowledge essentially the same performance and efficiency, it’s just that Apple would be able to focus on manufacturing the main unit with all the non changeable stuff and the throw in the proper RAM module when people select that RAM amount, you know that is what they are doing with the storage (along with the fact that it makes it so that if storage fails it can just be replaced) so why not the RAM as well, does it really save that much space to solder it

[@babybloc]

That’s why I was able to keep my 2012 MBP for 10 years, upgrading as needed But Apple wants you to upgrade more often than that. So they don’t let you upgrade anymore So I don’t want to buy them anymore. But are users foolish/trapped enough to change?

[@Speedy500]

@@babybloc no they don’t they want you to upgrade when they stop supporting the device, otherwise they would have give you a higher amount off of the new device when you trade in your old one, they stop supporting the model of Mac they release after like 10 years

[@Keyhou]

That already awesome video got ten times cooler when plugging the brand new 2024 Mac mini to a 22 years old iMac G4 😍

[@Born_in_the_USA_001]

Although I'm not an Apple fan boy zombie, this is awesome work!

[@tanmaywho]

This is awesome. I hope someone will make adapters for this.

[@LoganDark4357]

The M-series SoCs have their own flash controller so they need to be connected to the flash chips directly. You can't adapt an existing SSD that hides the flash memory behind a controller already. With that said I have no doubt that third-party upgrades will be coming out with flash chips already installed, just like for the Mac Studio

[@tanmaywho]

@LoganDark4357 what if said adapter takes generic 2230 ssd on one side and the original mac ssd on the other side without the flash? Just for controller? Is it possible? Nonetheless, thanks for the reply.

[@LoganDark4357]

@@tanmaywho 2230 is an M.2 form factor. All M.2 SSDs (regardless of NVMe or not) put the flash behind a flash controller, so you can't access the flash directly, only the controller (through an interface like SATA or NVMe). So they won't work with M-series SoCs, which need to be connected directly to flash chips, not a PCIe storage device (which all NVMe SSDs are), and certainly not SATA. Even though (some) M-series SoCs do support PCIe devices, this is not a PCIe connector, so you cannot use it to connect a PCIe device like an NVMe SSD. I know there is a 2023 Mac Pro with an M2 chip and PCIe slots, but I'm not sure if the specific M4 inside the new Mac Mini has any spare PCIe lanes. Even if it did, you'd definitely be looking at a solder job, not just a plug-in module. The plug-in module has to expose bare flash chips, not SATA/NVMe.

[@EugWanker]

Great video, and nice upgrade! But what did you do about the copper foil layer?

[@dosdude1]

I left it omitted. It's only RF shielding for FCC compliance, not a big deal to omit in normal use.

[@indignocat]

I saw the power button and thought "aha, the Magic Mouse designer is at it again".

[@StudentRadioITromso]

Good design done by apple @indignocat

[@MathiasRstJensen]

@@StudentRadioITromso❤

[@eemeli7093]

​@@MathiasRstJenseninsane dickriding

[@kentbyron7608]

Often it's the funny KZbin commenter that makes my day! Grateful!

[@Manava2012]

Wow here i am thinking my job is hard and this dude does what is mind boggling for me.

[@bhuminpatel1814]

Had to reball it twice but there's none like you on KZbin

[@Reza1984_]

Pretty sure there will be a full loaded module coming from china soon

[@ramr7051]

That's what everyone is hoping. Good money to be made

[@giridharpavan1592]

very good but those nand failures are worrying

[@Jake-l7q8w]

Is this the same issue that basically bricked Nintendo Wii U’s if left off for long periods of time?

[@EyesOfByes]

It's 4 performance and 6 efficiency cores, I think

[@EugWanker]

Correct

[@djblackcapsulamusic]

One question, would you be willing to do the SSD upgrade service if I buy a 256GB Mac Mini and increase the storage to 1TB? If you are willing please tell me how we would do it, I am really interested in making a good deal..!

[@paco3447]

How did you manage to connect the M4 to a cinema display? I thought it was not even possible to establish communication from M4 to an old Thunderbolt Display even with the TB3 to TB4 adapter.

[@ConnectSacred]

I think the one he is using is the 23" which is 1920X1200 and uses a standard DVI, so all you'd need is a standard DVI->USB-c or DVI->HDMI adapter. The original 30" apple cinema display uses dual link DVI so if you have an "active"(powered) adapter you can run it at 2560×1600. I used one on my 4,1 Mac Pro at one point but finding the adapters are hit and miss

[@paco3447]

@@ConnectSacred Thanks! What about the 2011-2016 Thunderbolt Display? Seems to be only supported up to M3‘s with the TB3 to TB2 official adapter, but not longer M4’s seemingly.

[@ConnectSacred]

@@paco3447 the apple cinema display 2011 use mini displayport(not thunderbolt) so I know those will work, not sure about the thunderbolt displays

[@Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section]

I'm sure people have something else in mind when they hear / read ‘upgradeable Mac’.