Dot Vs Iron sights

[@user-pt5gf3ln1y]

The only guy who can win a world championship with a 600 dollars pistol. Throw all your fancy gadgets away and learn from the Greatest.

[@bicmitchum4715]

COMMENT OF THE DECADE! 🎉

[@diegolainfiesta]

This guy convinced me to get a G34 and shoot a match. Hope that hard training+G34 makes it.

[@pete-mz9vr]

ain't that the truth!

[@dankinsler1930]

A $600 gun that he works over with his magic.

[@viralvidsrepository4632]

@@dankinsler1930 yea but I have watched what he has done to his competition set ups. It's very minimalist. Polishes some internals and a few spring changes. $50 in changes... And of course he changes the fixed sights, but who doesn't.

[@chrisharris6834]

I really enjoy watching incredible masters. The cadence to 10 yards is consistent, then 15 slight pause, 25 even more slight pause. It truly is incredible to watch.

[@braniganrobertsonlaw]

Love it. Practical. I always enjoy your videos. Please keep posting, man.

[@pimpinmagicianofprophecy]

Very underrated video. No shilling just pure skill. Thank You.

[@jasestrong]

I appreciate your candid video. As an iron sight guy it makes me reaffirm my reason to carry iron sights.

[@jakedivita]

Right on brother. In order to really take advantage of the dot in performance you need a pretty well developed index. Still think it's a fantastic learning tool for easily showing more novice shooters what is going on as they shoot the gun.

[@MikeHughesShooter]

Thanks Robert for investing the time on doing the test, filming and sharing. I agree with everything and it’s worth reiterating that dots seem to help with quals which gives a false bias of utility in quals vs LE actual shootings. Meaning, As you said quals provide eight seconds for something that needs to be done in two seconds. But I think there is another factor of people with poor vision where a dot can help, IF they train natural point of aim enough bringing them up to a level 5, 6 or 7 out of 10 Shooter, as you mentioned.

[@hitch7883]

Thanks Bob I'm looking forward to this

[@MelanieVanDeGraaff]

Best shooter ever! Great insights

[@gutenbergpanaderolozano]

Bob you are The guy. 👏👏👏👏👏

[@russream3732]

I recently went to a Trijicon RMR on Glock 34 gen5. Big difference (adjustment) for me going from irons (Front Sight Focus) to the RMR was going to Target Focus instead of Front Sight Focus. (I agree, fundamentals are more important).

[@lordw9609]

Appreciate your input from a competitor standpoint on splits. What about the consideration of during high stress situations, when your eyes naturally and instinctually try to focus in on the target, and how difficult it can be to train your eyes to focus on the front irons? I've been shooting for years, shot some 3 gun comps but still only an average shooter, and even with this I find when I add stress into the picture my eyes want to focus on the target. This is what concerns me with my family members with even less trigger time. It might take them a second to find the dot but could it be better than missing the target altogether?

[@ortizlzitro]

Go on for a long time! Thats why we follow you senpai

[@markreed2576]

Bob has said the same thing as Ken Hackethorne… Both are Grandmasters.

[@donh1572]

Been shooting red dots for years. Then I realized I like the simplicity of iron sights and don’t feel like I lost an advantage at all. If anything I might step it up a bit with Vogel fiber sights.

[@UrbanDefenseSystems]

I started shooting at a decently high level with dots, and I am giving irons a chance now, and I think I am really starting to prefer them. Though technically everything can be considered a "skill issue", the irons don't give too much feedback which is a good thing for those suffering from over-confirmation.

[@zelevenzelevenz9823]

There isn’t much else to say guys mr voguel is a legend I only base my learnings from the best and there’s nothing to argue about to be as accurate like voguel is the top of the stair case an to argue against the legend would be foolish…

[@Leethal1]

Nice shooting Bob👌

[@ramgarza02]

You’re an excellent shooter 👍🏽. I hope to one day become at least 80% comparable to you

[@vincentc2466]

What about staying target-focused? And easy visibility of the dot in any lighting condition? That's why i decided to go dot. I trust you on the marksmanship piece though, it makes sense. It's the other factors that reeled me in to the dot

[@onpsxmember]

On that level, they don't focus on the front sight. They are also target focused while both sights stay blurred to some degree. Seeing them becomes more of a confirmation and seeing them in the movement too. I can use both now to some degree but I find the strain on my eyes is subjectively less when using a dot, I can do longer sessions. Could be also that it is time for a new pair of shooting glasses.

[@angelmunoz4934]

The dot definitely requires a bit more training. Everyone can pick up irons and make a shot.

[@rolotomase1440]

Did you all the strings 3, 5, 7 etc. with one gun. Then did it with the other? Or did you do both guns at 3, both at 5, both at 7 etc. Thanks.

[@renecarbonell240]

Do you think your senior (60+) shooters will shoot better with a dot vs a younger shooter with good vision?

[@ATeamReilly]

When you have good overall shooting skills a dot will inevitably be faster. Especially if you are talking real life situations, self defense, and especially low light senario, the dot prevails 100% of the time. Not to mention aging eyes and low light.

[@sandman7849]

It's more complexity. When you add complexity, more things can go wrong.

[@ATeamReilly]

You are sightly quicker with irons simply because that's what you have used for years. Spend all your time with a dot and see what happens. It's common knowledge that dots overall are faster period!

[@swiftaudi]

Yes 2 focal planes vs 3. The dot is better. Training is key.

[@renecarbonell240]

I'm 68 and have always shot iron sights, I've been thinking of switching to " Red Dot" to increase my accuracy!!! This is with a CZP10 C, vs a Glock 23 40 cal,

[@maurobevilacqua70]

What I see here in Italy is that people switch to Optics once be seniors. Old eyes needs a little help.

[@knudge6334]

Does the red dot help the older guys with declining eye sight, or the ability to keep both eyes open? Love my gen1 g17 iron sights but need to wear glasses to see that front sight. More videos please! Thanks.

[@donh1572]

The fiber optic does. Give it a try

[@wread1982]

I have the Holosun green dot and the Holosun Chevron ACSS, I can get on target the fastest with my iron sights from ameriglo I-dot sights

[@wread1982]

Wish I would of never bought the two different green dots

[@wildman1088]

Well, I am 48 and I can shoot either. Now let me say, I cannot shoot anywhere as good as the King here, but I am an expert in IDPA. So, not too good, but not a novice either. I have to carry a Red Dot and shoot indoor tournaments with a Red Dot as well. That is due to after Lasik surgery I cannot see sh%t in lowlight. I cannot even see the rear sights in an indoor range. So unfortunately I have to train with both. However, I much prefer Irons over Dots....but I can see that my iron sight shooting has improved since shooting a Red Dot..Ironic i guess.

[@jeffpeters3601]

lol of course you shot the same haha deal of nature! I mean that in a good way lmao this dudes INSANE if no one has seen him run it

[@joshmajor8662]

Is it just me or is that slide moving REALLY slow?? Lol the shots and shot times were awesome but the slide looked sluggish, just me??

[@levelazn]

hey rob. you need to up your video production quality. and get more views.

[@Combative-SOAlex]

I shoot both in competition and for self defense training. I m little faster with dot in competition and with iron for close sd scenario.

[@jeffpeters3601]

Freak of nature *

[@bluebeastsrt]

I’m in my mid 50s. I carry glocks without a dot. Most peoples eye sight sucks by the time they hit 50! And I shoot my glock 20 and 43x fairly well. But when I’m shooting for fun I really enjoy a red dot. The groups are smaller at any distance and My eyes don’t feel fatigued after 100 rounds. So of course this dot or no dot discussion is just another dick measuring argument. Shoot what you like and what works best for you. Practice instead of arguing on forums!

[@alphakilo9066]

LE has a propensity to substitute technology for training and practice.

[@BlessedDad1819]

I personally like irons better than reticle. I guess I’m old fashion. If it ain’t broken don’t fix it. And when it comes to self defense, iron sights don’t run out of batteries. Thanks for all your tips sir I appreciate learning from your experience.

[@wread1982]

I can get on target faster with my iron sights, and I’ve have two different redicals

[@charleyharlan979]

That's proof enough for me... No sights at all might even produce a better split time... Now go out and prove me right Bobby... By doing the same experiment with a REAL gun.. Oh.. I meant...WHEEL gun..