See the Red Dot EVERY Time

[@Rangergeo85]

Red dots don't fix bad habits. The best way to find the dot is to have good mechanics in the first place.

[@WarriorPoetSociety]

Correct

[@stevenlacoste574]

Super sweet softball offering to the KZbin algorithm gods for participating. Good job bro.

[@2aisabsoluteTim]

​@@WarriorPoetSociety mable run cause you didn't buy her dinner the other night before you squeezed her utters

[@MBT3X]

Sometimes I just completely forget John has cold blooded assassin skills and then get snapped back to reality. That shooting was insane.

[@mohr4less]

He’s one accurate war criminal.

[@yusriyahbagheri8843]

​@@mohr4lesshow is he a war criminal?

[@762N8O]

You mean the warrior part of warrior poet?

[@CombatWombatQRF]

Totally! I was lulled into listening then I was like wait, that daring target he is shooting is like 15 yards! Haha

[@ryanhamstra49]

As someone getting my first pistol with a red dot this weekend, this video came out at the right time. Thanks John!

[@mikebridges4749]

Shadow Systems, best value. Highly recommend.

[@ThePatriotParadox]

Started with irons, after getting my cheap Glock 19 style pistol with a red dot, out to 40 yards I can hit whatever I want.... Just after a year of practice

[@jwschwartz1990]

Congratulations! And you are going to love it, I know I do for mine.

[@ryanhamstra49]

I have thousands of rounds through other guns, this isn’t my first pistol. Just the first one I’m buying with a red dot. I’ll definitely do some practice with it both ways tho

[@artemthetrain14]

​@@ryanhamstra49 I don't really know why people say to get irons first. Red dot rocks, simplifies everything. Hit a few hundred presentations dry and you'll pick up your dot just fine

[@mountainskyaerialphotograp3921]

Good stuff John, however, after teaching LEO's for some 30 years to use "front sight, front sight, rear site", then red dots popped up and everyone was having problems "finding" their red dot. So, after much research, we found that instead of teaching "front sight", we now focus on "Target" rather than "front sight". This matters because it does not matter how you draw your weapon because your focus is on the "target" not the front sight. We found that most if not all students "found" their red dot without having to "search" for it. Just my .002 worth, oh and it might help you to not get yourself killed while trying to "find" the red dot.

[@chucknorris5141]

I just realized this last month. I kept searching for my dot and struggled to do so. Once I focused on the target, the dot naturally appeared.

[@mountainskyaerialphotograp3921]

@@chucknorris5141 Yeah, it made a huge difference, life saving in my opinion.

[@James_Edward59]

It’s the brain doing what it was meant to do, similar how in baseball if you follow the ball with your eyes and swing, the bat will hit the ball without you having to look at the bat too because your brain knows how to bring them together.

[@markburnett8699]

Absolutely legit! I discovered this during competition, if I focus on my target, my front sight appeared on target. Very fast sight aquisition. Surprised me how quick it happened.

[@groundzero.]

ya when I was still in the Military and training units for deployment that is how I taught them. Keep your eye on target bring weapon in, you will see the sights when they are there ( lined up to target)

[@mudfan061]

I died laughing at the “beep”

[@Randysavage22]

Alright I gotta say, “dorking it up” has got to be the coolest term/quote of all time.

[@tmaddrummer]

Thanks and Blessings John. I'm working the new dot for old eyes!

[@jayteefishing1543]

Always enjoy a good instruction video from you John. Awesome teachings!

[@cbrucesbiz]

This short video did more for me in correcting my draw than any other class. Thank You John. Yes I called it a class as this is just what you will get when you train with Warrior Poet Society. Like he implied, more to be learned so power up and lets go.

[@petesmith147]

Me watching this video despite carrying a pistol that doesn't even have an optics cut on it.

[@MenaCourtadeProductions]

Getting ready for the upgrade lol God bless and happy holidays

[@barkermjb]

Good points John! I’m two years into transitioning my duty pistol over to RDS. Been a blast as I’ve learned. Practice practice practice is key, using timers and other methods to induce a level of stress so you can perform under fire. Too many officers have used poor transition training and they’ve found out that under stress they were unable to reach a level of needed combat proficiency. So don’t shortcut your transition and DO NOT call your transition “good” after a minimal one day transition course. You better get you, your RDS equipped pistol, and your kit out to the range in daylight and lowlight conditions and you better use stress-inducing techniques so you reach absolute combat proficiency. Smooth IS Fast…. Earn your speed… 💯

[@johngross8300]

Thanks for the talk. I’m a year in on the Dot. Realizing this moment, when the Dot has been there, your gouge was the reason my ‘training’ as working - all other times poor in habit. Thank you.

[@Coasterr200145]

I am a LEO and have recently had to switch to red dot sights after many years of iron sights...and I hated it : ) This video explained things to me better then my own instructors. I will be heading to the range with what you said in mind. I am actually looking forward to it!

[@froggerjohn427]

You get to train on taxpayer dollars?

[@Coasterr200145]

@@froggerjohn427 For about an hour or two each year. Mostly I train on my own.

[@TheKylebreezy]

​@@Coasterr200145 wait till he finds out you always leave the cars on

[@guyinthewrinkledwrangler]

I like Mabel. Lol god bless you and yours John.

[@DreadJim89]

I always tell people to just sit and draw. I practiced drawing for weeks before I started carrying 1. I probably practiced my draw 2,000 times before I was able to get it to the point where I always saw the dot. You should be practicing that draw at the very least until you see that dot every single time you draw. So when people say they don't like it because they can't ever find the dot I laugh, because that just means they don't practice. It's not very hard to get to the point of seeing it every time. It just takes a tiny bit of patience, dedication and practice. God bless

[@Frankie5Angels150]

Front sight front sight front sight! Makes perfect sense with red dots or iron sights. Very helpful video!

[@MegadethTillDeth]

Good stuff John. This made me reevaluate my draw that I learned from you years ago, to make sure I wasn't getting too sloppy. I kinda was. Mostly because I've become fat, so I'm clearing a space at a different angle, but I'm still solid, just not solid enough. Exercise and diet incoming. Make sure you're real with yourself gentlemen.

[@NoWr2Run]

100% BE REAL WITH YOURSELF.

[@danielsaxon2206]

Same!

[@avyyazzie4702]

1 step forward, 2 steps back. Keep your dots in a microwave in case of a EMP.

[@sooperdweeb1753]

I'm an old grey beard.I have lost muscle mass so my problem is a bit different. Not the man I was 10 years ago and you just have to adjust ,adapt and overcome.

[@DelThompson]

Excellent instructions on proper drawing technique! I subscribed and will be looking for more good stuff from you!

[@kellyBorgman]

Outstanding explanation. I watched a lot of videos to get what John presented in a few minutes. Practice dry fire, gun level at 2nd step etc.

[@txhuntsman]

The sweeping up motion was the hiccup I had to get over as well. As soon as I corrected that the dot was there. Great info.

[@TheOneOriginalJackal]

Just tried this with my rig. Centerline thing, higher step two grip ... finding dot so much quicker. Mind blown!! Seriously.... Thanks!

[@bryanbabcock6012]

I know this post is a year old, but holy smokes does this work! I was about to give up on my RDS, but John’s instructions worked like a charm! Thanks John!

[@andrewoler5709]

My man said, " you're fudgin that number 2".. I caught that terrible dad joke 😂😂

[@davidwiechecki9205]

A Holosun 507c or 507k with the circle dot or acss reticle solves this problem. And they work great for those of us with astigmatism.

[@davidmurphy4889]

Holoson rds works great.

[@ThurgoodJenkinz]

I just purchased one for my CR920P Shadow Systems. Looks great. So with a red dot, you no longer worry about your iron sights? Im confused where you're supposed to hold the dot, since a fraction of movement can throw shot placement off tremendously (like iron sights). So how do you consistently keep the dot in the same place? If that makes sense.

A reticle is horrible for pistol red dot.

[@deebee4575]

For civvies in self defense emergencies a red dot will rarely come into play.

[@MichaelWhite76]

Good stuff John. I teach MRDS transition classes for my agency. I’d add one for the “fisherman” shooters is to engage the pinkies. Most of them have the opposite issue of the bowlers and their front sight is too high; squeeze the pinkies and it will come right back. Well said about not short cutting the learning process; it becomes a slightly different body position for those that have been shooting for a long time. 👍

[@acefectoAirborneArcticRecon]

Holy craaap I was correcting with more mistakes almost threw red dot in the river!!! Thanx John I'll try it again...

[@timothyherrick7077]

This was really well-timed! I've been frustrated with finding my War Poet's red dot. I think this will help, going to put in some reps! Thank you John!

[@michaell397]

I can assure you that John's technique will help a lot! Just add practice!!! ;

[@johnjohnson6094]

I already gave up on my red dot sight, but I will try this and see if it works for me.

[@ACAquatics]

John personally helped me with my draw stroke during a pistol course in Tennessee and I've never looked back. It works if you're willing to put in the work. Yay for that!!!

[@huey7437]

Thx John, marrying the hands centerline is the big one for me to focus on. God bless, carry on

[@dknollRX7]

Great video, as always. Another option that has worked very well for me is the colab between Holosun and Primary Arms…the ACSS reticle version of their 507c. It has a chevron reticle with a 1 MOA tip of the chevron and a large outer ring that you won’t see if the pistol is presented properly, but if you’re off, that outer ring will quickly let you know you’re off and will guide you to your chevron reticle.

[@Dunecoone]

I Want One Of Those! Is It Super Cool?

[@dknollRX7]

@@Dunecoone I have two of them. I’d suggest trying to look at a Holosun optic in person and see which color works better for your eyes, green or red. I ordered the green before seeing it, as so many people said it worked better for them, but for my eyes, the red works much better and is clearer. I’ve had LASIK and I’ve heard that may cause some slight astigmatism, but for me the red was better. So that’s my only warning. They’re great optics and very intuitive. You don’t have to think about it at all…it’s very natural.

[@Dunecoone]

@@dknollRX7 The concept is simple, awesome idea. Yeah, I picked up a SIG green dot before. I like it because it's green but red works better for me as well. Thanks for the heads up.

[@dknollRX7]

@@Dunecoone you’re welcome. I know you have to get them via Primary Arms. As far as I know, they come in the full size 507c and the closed emitter version, the 509c.

[@Dunecoone]

@@dknollRX7 PA is my Jam. I have an astigmatism as well. I've learned to use red dots, just needed to practice with each one so I can gauge where the 🎯 is Lol. but I just got my first etched reticle from PA 🤯 Thx again GOD bless

[@Captain_Ahab_96]

Just bravo I found this the most efficient presentation not just for red dots but iron sights as well 👏👏👏

[@TheBrigandBob]

I never understood the training curve to red dots on pistols. When I got my first red dot, on dry fire, upon presentation, it was there every time. The only thing I had to make a conscious effort to change was focusing on the target instead of the sight, but that's already what I've been doing with optics on rifles for years. Literally little to no effort for an instant cheat code level upgrade.

[@oklahomahank2378]

Apparently you were already making a good draw. I was taught (many years ago) to draw the way he described Terrell drawing, which is an old revolver technique. Breaking myself of that will take time.

[@TheBrigandBob]

@@oklahomahank2378 Yeah, I've only been really serious about training and shooting for about five years, started following John about six years ago, and picked up almost all of my stuff from him the first handful of years before adding others to the mix, so I think that's likely it. I just got lucky coming across good info and trained good habits and HOPEFULLY minimized the bad habits, though I'm sure I have plenty of them. I think I just got lucky on the red dot situation.

[@oklahomahank2378]

@@TheBrigandBob That’s great. I was trained in revolvers as a young man, 1960s, and we were taught that “muzzle up quick” draw, which was an old police technique. My first semi training was the old Chapman Academy about 1998 or so? They had their hands full correcting my grip and stance, which were terrible. In the several classes since then I don’t think anyone has ever really discussed the second position. Maybe I should take a class from Warrior Poet. The way he describes that makes sense. I bought a red dot and am trying it.

[@danclas5983]

I never was interested in RDS because everyone said what a learning curve there was to them. Then about 2 years ago I had the chance to try one and from the first draw the dot was there for me and I've never had a problem with them. I think the key to picking up on the dot is focusing on the target and not the sight.

[@jeffking1406]

I have made two good faith efforts with red dots and abandoned them both times. Your first scenario of where the number two position is slightly canted and offset to the right is me. That was the number two position when I learned it 25 years ago. That was what we were taught. I don't know how many repetitions it would take to fix that now but at least it's something I can try.

[@Matt.Hemple]

Daily dryfire

[@joenunya8449]

Thousands would be a good start.

[@jeffking1406]

​@@joenunya8449 yes it will definitely take thousands of reps to reprogram thousands of reps.

[@dogsplantscarsneatstuff176]

Thanks john. This is so necessary. Very Zen.

[@crackshot-tv]

As always great content. Something else that helped me was USPSA shooter Scott Jedlinski's modern samurai project. It's a very similar technique to what John is suggesting here but perhaps a little more accentuated in the initial pointing up with the pistol to find the dot (the dot always naturally falls down from 12 o'clock to the center as you draw). John's way is essentially identical with a little bit of nuanced difference, find what works for you!

[@crackshot-tv]

Also loving the agency arms 417 comp. I just bought one and am super excited to play around with it.

[@EriktheDev]

Scott may be changing his methodology soon, a video of him with Point 1 Tactics and some other skilled pistol shooters came out where he was finally sold on the idea of a more efficient draw that looks more like a straight line rather than the arcing motion that he's been teaching. Everybody is working to improve, even at the highest levels!

[@crackshot-tv]

@@EriktheDev Dang please share if you have the link handy! I agree, we're all on a lifelong journey of learning and should never assume we know the best way to do something.

[@mikecawley3997]

Yes! Back to gun stuff! I love it Warrior Poet Society!!!!!

[@richardmmarcus1]

Red Dot good, train draw, both eyes open👀, see 👀 da Red Dot on target, pew pew 😃

[@racex428]

Jerry Miculek helped me out , muzzle up and soft focus on target...spot on every time...

[@JustWhyFFS]

What helped me the most was a revelation I had during dry-fire training. Don't look for the sight. Rather, know the sight will be there when you pull the gun up properly with both eyes open. Sounds simple but trust me, it can take a minute to break your mind from "seeking the sight," if that's what it wants to do naturally. So again, with good technique, it's easy to overcome.

[@papimaximus95]

Good observation. We normally say bring the sights up to the eyes. So find your target with your eyes and then bring the gun/sights to your eyes.

[@IsraellDFend]

Dude sounds like he really knows what he’s talking about. A+ 👍🏼

[@madbearforge8550]

Almost 6 AM and I’ve learned at least four things I plan to put into practice from this 8-minute video. I also MIGHT even put my red dot back onto my P226 😁

[@herbagehood]

Just bought one for mine. Waiting on screws!

[@sprockcapn]

Funny timing! I literally just got back from buying my first red dot. I will have to put this into practice and learn! Keep up the good videos!

[@travelingspartan2035]

Thanks for the info, John. I had a bit of trouble with this at one of Paul and Josh's pistol 2 classes here in Arizona, back in February. They were both helpful in getting me on track with it.

[@believeinjesus8300]

All that jazz 😎

[@skimitup]

Quick run down to put together the correct draw consistently. Thanks for breaking it down into clear steps. Will work to earn the speed thanks, John!

[@gigalulmansur]

Not a lot of people talk about this stuff but it's such crucial information for new shooters

[@nmr3352]

Old shooters too.

[@robertsalyers1351]

Thanks John

[@RomagnoliMarcoLupo]

Damn John.. You’re good! 🐺❤️ Precious experience. Thanks for sharing!

[@thearkansasadventurer]

Just got an RMR from T-Rex arms last week and this is exactly what I needed to know! Thanks John!

[@Akuma60]

That was some real warrior techniques. Especially the hint of slow is smooth, smooth is fast

[@bradbarley6639]

Perfect timing on the video... My daughter is in training this evening with their new department issued G17's with optics. Great video, sage advice and I forwarded this to her. Thanks John!

[@mikesmith379]

Sorry she has to put up with that terrible grip angle... 😞

[@bradbarley6639]

@@mikesmith379 97 day, 100 night.. qualification... with that stock trigger... I'd say the grip angle is no problem... 😆

[@mikesmith379]

@@bradbarley6639 yeah aimed methodical fire isn't too bad, but instinctive one handed moving without aiming is a very different story. Try simulating a panic situation and see what happens. Everybody else has figured out what natural grip angle should be, there's no reason Glock should stick with their unnatural angle except arrogance.

[@bradbarley6639]

@@mikesmith379 I see now... Someone can't shoot a Glock. To each his own...

[@mikesmith379]

@@bradbarley6639 lol I see now, somebody has never done force on force training. It has nothing to do with skill--take somebody who has never shot a gun before, have them do instinctive shooting with one hand without aiming (e.g. what many police officers do in a panic situation as they run to cover) with a Glock vs an M&P/Sig/Walther/FN etc and tell me what happens.

[@hopewilliams6705]

Speed is the economy of motion

[@robertfoote3255]

Throwing a like and comment to push the signal for WPS.... And Yaaaaaaah for that! 🤠🇺🇸

[@psal18]

Out of all the videos I’ve watched on finding the red dot this one has been the most helpful.

[@none4085]

Great teachings! American Uprisin 🇺🇸

[@murrayrothtard6072]

That ad was pretty great.

[@WilliamGrinley]

That was great- you broke it down in 3 steps, just what I needed!

[@nathanmieure4071]

I think I have a draw like Terrell. I'm going to work on that! Thanks John!

[@rubbermalletracing4273]

Content just keeps getting better and better. Thank you John, love you brother.

[@JMJ3rd]

Thank you!

[@happydog4929]

thank you. God bless to all.

[@dalewalters357]

Earn the speed. Well said.

[@ed00001]

This just helped me so much. Thank you!

[@crazyhawk99]

Dude, I SO needed this video. I’ll surely study it multiple times. Thanks!

[@shaneelliott1263]

Hey Jon enjoyed helping you chase a bull around 😂. Need something don’t hesitate.

[@karateman856]

Working on red dot acquisition, this is the best explanation I’ve found, time to practice, thank you!

[@DesertTactical]

Got into pistol red Dots about 1.5 yrs ago. I found this video very informative and useful as I am still trying to master this technique. Thanks, John.

[@tjzulu1]

Excellent video brother!! Keep'em comin'!! 🙌

[@izsafe1]

Great info as usual. As a copper fire arms instructor of decades, I've seen the LE training evolve over the years...most schools were teaching the "five step draw" and a few turned it into seven steps. It was hard to teach just 5 steps to a lot of cops who didn't want to train much. Your tip on keeping the muzzle up is great, I just thought everyone kept it up, but when we started using VHS tapes to record range training, I could play it back later and see what some were doing wrong. (VHS tapes, that's how long I've been doing it). You make it look easy, keep it up.

[@MrGwg11]

Late to the party, but this is a legit thank you for sharing this info! i knew my grip needed work, i knew that my inconsistencies were an issue, and now thanks to the pointers and tips, i have a better map towards bettering my draw stroke. i have all kinds of video of me drawing and then waving my muzzle around trying to find the dot in the window. learning about the number 2 position and its specifics will defiantly help here! Thank you, continued success, best wishes to everyone!

[@JohnDoe14783]

Just ordered a Shadow Systems War Poet DR920. Thanks a lot for all your tips and tricks, John! I'm glad to support your business!

[@Ghillie-bp6tl]

Way to go, MABEL! This is why we can't have nice things.

[@johndallas9333]

Oh Yeah, good stuff! Slow is smooth, smooth is fast. Thanks.

[@danielt7255]

John, have you ever thought about doing a video regarding lead when shooting? How to protect yourself loved ones? Good practices to not bring lead into the home? What you should do or what really isn't neccesary?

[@davidbarnes7999]

i’m only a few months into red dots, have them for 3 of my pistols and still working on the presentation you demonstrated. thanks for the help !

[@awesomedave8484]

If your there...I'm there! Lets GO!

[@xefitnop]

One thing I'd add that you're doing but didn't touch on; during deliberate practice make sure you're only moving the Arms and the gun to your eyeline. Instead of moving your head and eyes to the gun. Once I started focusing on keeping my head as still as possible I found that I wasn't chasing the dot, and my times went down by .1 or .2 on the timer. I was unaware until my guru started filming my head dropping ever so slightly at the end of my draw stroke. Having a buddy film you is a good way to identify the small nuances that push you past a performance cap. Thanks for being a positive voice in the community sir.

[@michaellucas8927]

And this is why you are the man.👍👍

[@bearpaws9170]

Thankyou, perfect timing too.

[@guitareputz]

Great John Mayall tune "Maydell" could easily be heard as "Maybell"

[@mnixxon]

Fantastic video. This was a master class in not only red dot proficiency but in draw stroke fundamentals. Thank you for posting.

[@DigitalCity-sj4es]

calm down buddy

[@rodneyhanbaum697]

Thank you John, as a current FA instructor prior military, and retired FLEO,I grew up when we only put 5 rounda in the revolver, shot and was taught the latest and greatest techniques from bowling to the hop a long Cassidy methods of draw and target acquisition. 😂 Then came our beloved pistols, for years it was rock and lock out of the holsters for exactly the reasons you mentioned. Thankfully the 3 step draw techniques. I've been teaching this for along time to the dismay of former Lead instructors. and of course the safety Sally's in management. Thank you for bringing validity to this method. Safety Sally's will still refute, me, I'm gonna execute proper techniques! Appreciate you. God Bless you, your family and staff. ML&R

[@RoninWarrior1776]

Full enclosed emitter’s for me all the way.

[@ImRickJames24]

Holosun 509c vulcan acss for larger pistols, and 507k vulcan acss for smaller pistols. They come in either green or red. They also have a side loading battery, so no need to remove the site to change batteries. And, no rezeroing after battery change. I would argue the best dots for shooters new to dots.

[@LeonardCartersureshotfoto]

This gave me some of the guidance that I've needed in this area. Thank you!!!

[@chrisfisher3900]

Will soon be rebuilding my 48 to include a red dot,well green so I got alot of practicing to do

[@VeteransForward]

This was the best video I’ve watched to diagnose my sight picture

[@themackguyverchannel7713]

You are a true Jedi. That is the fastest second sight picture I have ever seen

[@neonwhitea.1548]

Just bought my first dot, really helped with my trigger pull watching the dot move if I jerked is much easier than iron sights

[@timdavis6088]

What you're teaching is the same thing I intuitively learned on my own when I first got a red dot on my pistol. I was struggling to find the red dot and getting very frustrated. Then I realized that I can "use my front sight" to find my red dot every single time by starting with the muzzle up and bringing the front sight into alignment with the rear sight. Not only do I still maintain the same skills for iron sights if the red dot ever does go down but I found that I could pick up the red dot long before my traditional iron sights were completely aligned. I practiced this slow repetition of muzzle up but moving down to get comfortable with seeing the red dot. Now I pick up the red dot much faster and it's long before the iron sights align. Once I have the red dot in sight I know that wherever I put that red dot is where my shot is going to impact. There's no more need to make the perfect sight picture before I can shoot.

[@Jdcakamatsu9]

Shout out to Scott and Tyrell for inspiring this video.

[@piratelestrange]

Thank you beardy!

[@kennethcohagen3539]

I like that, you’re Dorking up your draw stroke. I used to tell my kids to stop Dorking around. Like minds here!

[@waynethompson3605]

Thanks, great tips, appreciate the help. Little things, little things ,little things!!!

[@dustinrhodes7103]

AWESOME words of wisdom my guy! Thanks for breaking this down in a manner that was easy to digest!

[@randymicallef3545]

Very helpful... I'll be dry fire practicing this one tonight.

[@nathanashley5260]

Solid teaching there that was great

[@outcastcwd]

Thanks John! 😎👍