DOUBLE DAMAGE!! Use These Champions For More Damage Raid: Shadow Legends

[@ObitusJoe]

I just love how they claim the changes were to increase the diversity in team comps when in reality the killed several comps, nerfed a bunch of damage dealers, and we are all just going to move back to Enemy HP damage dealers...you know, like we use in all other bosses in the game. So stupid.

[@evalman9563]

By no means is enemy max hp the way to go anymore. My triple acrizia team gets out damaged by at least double by non capped damage dealers. Yea maybe if you used junk teams like wixwell/yannica sure but enemy max hp is too weak for either clan boss

[@edwardmcgarthwaite7771]

Enemy max hp on aoe is the juice

[@animejay70]

@@ObitusJoe Thor still did a whole lot of damage in my team because Yncensa gives Him lot of extra A12. Ally attack should still be good too.

[@42stek]

wroung cry more learn how to play

[@drewprew]

You don’t kill entire archetypes if your goal is diversity.

[@yoshihara888]

I don’t agree. The end game players got their damage nerfed. But mid and early players got locked out of rewards and Hydra difficulty levels. I will easily be able to win one key nightmare still, but many players got smacked back to hard or normal

[@mdb8537]

If they would limit the number of heads that were invincible at one time to less than 4, that would be cool. Also, if we could strip that buff. Make it something we can actually combat. These changes suck.

[@idimeci980]

They should fix hydra...This is most stupidity that i have seen on all games that i have played on years...Players spend time and money for specific champions for Hydra and now Plarium did useless those champs

[@yoshihara888]

And again. To drop all the heads at the same time you need AOE. I think Thor will be one of the best at dropping multiple heads for most players

[@idimeci980]

@@yoshihara888 Thor is my best champ like F2P that am I...8k attack and 330crit dam and he looks weak with new update...

[@darthrambo2274]

they have allready solved the problem. You only have to buy this new void Legi, who makes alone 2B damage on UNM.

[@lesleyducoing6762]

Saying it's for advanced players but then they have a clan verses clans is just another way to push out newbie accounts.

[@andrewarnold9820]

Scratch, I killed all four heads at one time but they all spawned one at at time, literally a second apart ending up with every head having the buff...so 100% damage reduction on all four at the same time. :( This affects everything! Can't place debuffs that require crit hits, can't get your champs out if they were eaten, etc. This is so easy to adjust...simply put only 1 or 2 heads should have this buff at one time. Its incredibly stupid how they implemented this.

[@M.to.the.L]

agree 100%

[@mentos.0]

Your hero cant never be eaten with that buff on.

[@M.to.the.L]

@@mentos.0 sure, but it wastes a lot of turns

[@andrewarnold9820]

technically you are right. I stand corrected. I think I was just trying to illustrate how it changes every dynamic of the fight.

[@dukekessler6292]

You can still critically hit, the damage is just 0 so debuffs that require it would still land...

[@dmcg660]

I ran them all. Trunda with double emic was 1.59 Billion on hard. 203 million now. My total last time was 3.78 Billion. Now 1.17 Billion. The taunt nerf annoys me the most. Also targeting is horrible. 3 decapitated heads. Fear had block damage. They all targeted the fear head. If they allowed only 1 back damage buff to be up at once, that would be much better.

[@Ikon55_]

If they refuse to budge on the changes, then I'm now a part-time ftp! They've went completely overboard!

[@nicknauj124]

Agreed. I haven’t logged on in 3 days. Last time I did my gems were full. What does that say. Silly RAID.

[@dukekessler6292]

@@Ikon55_ how exactly does one become "part-time ftp"?

[@gentblue]

​@@dukekessler6292FTP and not playing daily, I expect.

[@vularo4770]

Went from 800-900m on normal to 170-200m . With arbiter, lazarius, harima, hephraak, uugo, nekmo . Too often all heads immun to dmg.

[@ModernMyths]

It's actually hilarious how Plarium is actually acting about these changes. While everyone is complaining, they're just counting their money they got from the Krakens.

[@shroud4269]

I slowly started to stop playing the game I stopped grinding I’ve just been logging in for the progress rewards because I’m about 8 days away from Scyl but it’s probably pointless because I’m fairly certain I’ll completely quit the game by the end of 2024 which I wasn’t planning to do at all but these changes broke the game and I’m not gonna continue to dump hundreds of dollars every month on a game where the devs literally dgaf about me. Went through a similar thing with Blizzard and WoW during Battle for Azeroth and Shadowlands and vowed to never be a slave to a game ever again with extremely scummy business practices and 0 respect for the gamer. I am not a paypig.

[@C1sc0D1sc0]

They kill my wixwell team for the demon lord, i used to do 390m to 420m damage and now i only do 80m to 120m.. literally nerf my whole clan.

[@lambsauce8545]

…why do you give a shit about your demon lord damage?

[@C1sc0D1sc0]

@@lambsauce8545 because i am mostly getting all my secrads shards from there, so that effectively cut my income of secrads shrads by half or more

[@lambsauce8545]

@@C1sc0D1sc0 how? Is it not still a one key?

[@C1sc0D1sc0]

​@lambsauce8545 because i was the biggest contributer in my clan for un clan boss, like i said i was doing upto 420m damage per key and now, i am doind 1/4 of that... I was doing almost half of the clan boss myself

[@sawyerslack9782]

​@@lambsauce8545it screwed over smaller clans.

[@calandale]

I took about a 20% loss on damage on an account that couldn't quite hit the top chest - getting far enough behind that I can't see getting there in the near future. For the high end players, they're still going to be hitting 1.2B/week, even if they get a bigger percentage hit, so the ACTUAL effect is nil. On top of that, no chance of a Wixwell team (which I probably could have built). I don't even consider myself 'mid-game', but rather late game: I can face most content, although I cannot complete everything.

[@johntheoned]

Last week got 500m points from this week I got half people in the clan either quitting the game or not bothering with hydra anymore so great job palarium

[@43steelersfan43]

Hey Skratch is there a way to direct mikage ally atk to a specific shadowkin? I took her with oboro and harima and it was always harima who would team up with mikage.

[@franklindesign6943]

not always, its random between the two

[@darthrambo2274]

how have we build husk? Only lot of crit damage?

[@SkratchPlays]

Hi, yes. Full crit and around 250 crit dmg.

[@petros_odin]

Hey scratch you must also mention that GismK A1 from his second form is useless now. It’s doesn’t prok the Aoe to the decapitated heads because of the life barriers.

[@animejay70]

the 100% damage reduction sucks. I have a few times where all 4 heads were down in brutal. the heads spawned sequentially, but not at the same time and i had 4 heads where i couldn't do damage i did 397m (was 600-640m) with graazure, thor, yncensa, shamael, maulie and uugo. yncensa kept giving thor extra turns. graazur provoke and enemy max HP, the rest standard.

[@danilomatia]

"Use these champions" Krisk, Marius 🤡

[@SkratchPlays]

🤡🤡

[@DemonicEmperor2023]

Marius is possible tho Krisk you just need to be insanely lucky Remember this video is Made for those that have them And some other option if you dont have the big hitter.

[@SkratchPlays]

@@DemonicEmperor2023 Krisk can be replaced by any other provoker tho. You don't need him in the team.

[@drewprew]

@@SkratchPlaysEspecially if you’re correct about inc speed / dec speed being a negative now.

[@tommiejohansson962]

Razelwarg went from 850 mil to 250 mil for me vs NM. Hes in 9 piece slayer but I think if I gonna keep him in hydra i need to change to merciless. Slayer seems useless now

[@tommiejohansson962]

Using turvold in the same team as razel and hes loss was from 650 mil to 320 mil. So they really punished aoe-dmg as you said

[@CoryBurnett-cs1ft]

Found u from dragonheir, didn’t realise you was just as badass in raid too aha.. quick question. Iv got 10 leggo books. I want to put them in my Odin but Elva seems slot better in slot more pve areas, that being said I have a fully booked Duchess so is Elva automborn worth skilling over Odin considering I have duchess max skilled?

[@SkratchPlays]

Hi. Welcome on board. I would make Odin over Elva personally.

[@CoryBurnett-cs1ft]

@@SkratchPlays damn I was impatient and went for Elva, only just saw this ahaha.. not had chance to use either much as been farming masteries for my clan boss team but i already know when I get chance to using them imma regret not skilling Odin first aha.. I was using him everywhere until I started the mastery grind. Thanks for the response though my guy, keep up the great work

[@mindsunsui8414]

nice video. i tested my good ol' RG back in reflex + merciless and he did a good job. A champ that was usefull for me if you have alot of dmg is akentum. he became mvp for me with mikage spreading blockbuffs, defdown and weaken with a1 faster than uugo coul cycle his skills so he is a backup - everything?. overall i lost 80% of my clash scores but what annoys me the most is the fast respawns and all the 0 dmg hits. hope they either remove the hp bar or increase it 3-4 times

[@b4warned115]

If Plarium comes out with champs that have “ignore serpents will” in their kit, I’m going to quit the game

[@troloniousttv5822]

As a mid game player only getting around 200 mill on NM, with Wallmaster, my team was able to do about the same now as before. However, my hard and brutal teams are struggling.

[@bobross1241]

This is why i still cant do hydra and have a whales champ pool but just piss on everything thank you guys for figuring out effective mechanics we will fix that cant let slide

[@markfernee3842]

You're completely wrong about the effect on mid-game players. My damage is less than half of what it was. All the mechanic changes have a cumulative effect on damage. Once the devour time hits two turns, it rapidly becomes nearly impossible to free your champ if you don't have enough dps. The first devour, yes, the second, maybe, the third... Not a chance. All-in-all, hydra has become far less accessible for mid-game players. That means our weekly hydra rewards are drastically cut from what they were previously.

[@SkratchPlays]

@markfernee3842 try to up your damage bit on the other champions so they can free the others.

[@frickxnas]

My fenax now destroys dead heads so fast and they sometimes come back to life instantly especially on normal. From auto 450-600m now my team barely does 220-250m on manual. It sucks

[@Jokhumify]

Its not like the 100% dmg reduction is the major problem, atleast not for me. Its the constant respawning of heads that is the issue, the heads "outrun" my teams cooldowns and it becomes a problem, they start getting up poison clouds and so on. They should have just removed the health from the decapitated heads and alot of the annoyance right now will be removed for the time beeing. Speaking on Wixwell & Trunda, a wixwell trunda team that has done 1.5 billion has been made again allready so its not like they fixed anything anyway. So as I've said earlier, this didnt affect anyone except the players who didnt have Wixwell & Trunda. Hats off to Plarium for yet another useless patch

[@yroopa]

I NEED THE FREAKING LEAKED INFO ON HALLOWEEN FUSSION AND XMAS FUSSION PLUS MY XMAS GIFTS I WILL GET FROM PALARIUM

[@Wolcik3000]

I hope the alternative for second Gnut will also be a fusion

[@acorn1754]

I did 3.6 bill dmg in hard with a double Teox team in hard and only hit for 600 mill the next week. It's so infuriating.

[@JeremyKeller-sm6ee]

So we can look forward to Gnut getting a nerf once people build teams...

[@B______L]

I have him and honestly G'nut deserves a nerf.

[@wampy88]

I think next nerf on champ will be Yummeko...Gnut is not a problem a for hydra

[@ExiledtoVampa]

If they are not gonna budge on reverting hydra changes then they Def need to either nerf serpents will and/or the hp on a decapitated head

[@dracofireballakahemieater4417]

I did terrible.My billion plus team only did 400 thousandand when they eatmy champions.The green bar to take down is 3/4 of the bar unreal

[@Cheese-It117]

My Acrizia team doing 300+ M is looking pretty good now

[@Everfrosty]

when and where do you do your live stream?

[@SkratchPlays]

@@Everfrosty happend already on KZbin

[@Anghelll18]

I'm a mid game player and my damage decreased 53% on normal since they have done the update 😶

[@Ikon55_]

I really don't have the heart to rebuild teams I've spent so much time and money to build.

[@Ni-qc6yq]

I'm holding my breath until I get what I want.

[@MayhewMayhemGaming]

Lvl 96 ONLY GOT COLDHEART (For enemy max hp) Got 8 of her. NO OTHER Enemy max hp champs :p

[@710-o3p]

I want to know who tf they think they are taking peoples money billions of dollars people spent trying to get these champions not even just trunda let’s talk eostrid she gets nerfed because decrease speed isn’t even a point anymore. Like everyone’s champions they bought shards for they spent money to do fusions for all got nerfed because they couldn’t fix trunda so they f all of us. Why can’t they just fix trunda delete her a2 take her out of the game until you can fix it idk but to change the entire mechanic after we spent years building our teams and competing in events to get these champions and souls just for them to change everything when dungeons have done the exact same thing since the game started like wtf. And don’t even get me started on siege game mode is a disaster. In 2 sieges when we get the void our clan will never participate again because what’s the point? Feral? lol feral is a trash set

[@blabivix]

I used Eostrid in my NM team and did 400m. Still plenty of a point in using eostrid

[@modernthinker300]

What's this nonsense about decrease speed no longer being desirable? You folks have lost your gaming minds if you think this is the case. The way YOU DEPLOY decrease speed may require some nuanced adjustments... Put your gaming thinking caps on people. C'mon. You're being far too emotional and throwing the baby out with the bath water with your bitterness when you dunk on decrease speed.

[@710-o3p]

@@modernthinker300 the update sucks mate

[@mrriedel7451]

My Marius Team on nightmare works better than before.(200M before, now 300M) I dont think the changes are that bad. I like the damagegap between the clans are closed now.

[@latala43]

The decapitated head's bar should be in a different color such as blue as before. Anyhow, Hydra became the worst part of the game. Not enjoying it anymore.

[@jakubmaka2188]

Soo, i am weak ok. I did a cheeky team with hound master or whatever was his name orc and hellhound, I did 200 mln dmg on normal, now I am dying before 20 mln dmg is done... Still got a max chest, but it completely ruined my team for brutal, where I was just getting those 30 mln dmg needed to get a chest. I will have to redo my best team as I just don't deal enough dmg

[@dodeath]

All they had to do is cap shield and fix trunda :D They just left same thing but made lower bar :D (except destroying shields fully and taunt)

[@jameswiggs1901]

The problem for me is all the BOOKS!!! I put into -Wixwell, Packmaster and Yannica I want them back! never been so close to quiting, Blah!

[@SkratchPlays]

U need to learn to navigate that and reduce speeds on her

[@TheVoiTube]

Funny how TRUNDA still does more damage THAN Hydra oriented MYTHICS. None comes even close after nerf too.

[@drewprew]

Are those with the double yumeko trunda teams not trying other nukers in her slot? I’m curious if this is more a case of those with a working team just not bothering to try any alternatives.

[@GorchaxGaming]

5xhit enemy maxhp seems unlikely even with plarium competence levels. Gnut is already making any potential dungeons a joke.

[@harmon55]

I wouldn't consider myself endgame at all. Definitely mid-game. I went from 3 billion damage to 350 mil on Normal. I hate it

[@SkratchPlays]

Probably u used Trunda or Wixwell teams. I was not referring to those teams. It does suck for sure.

[@randybowden4262]

What used to be my favorite game mode is absolute garbage now. Obviously I'm upset about it. Still love your content Scratch. Please fight for us.

[@M1Y4MUS4SH1]

with plarium you can never be sure of anything.. they pissed us off so many times with champs that they ruined and that people invested οn.. players were punished harshly and through no fault of their own.. if they can't support what they bring in the game and make all the players feel unsafe every time then they have to close the company and go home...we are wasting our time and money (not mine)....my dmg was 70-100m im f2p and managed to make 3 decent teams for each dificaulty if now cant do 20-30 (same for all members) mean we must do what?to invest on other champs and tomorow they will get nerf too?..alrdy 6 players quit and others thinking to leave clan for higher clan but as im asking around except whales/spenders clan all the others has same problem...anyway im seeking for new game but im sure after some time the resaults will be the same..

[@miffed6789]

Drop into skratchs channel for some nice accessible teams. Double harima.... Lolololol Would watch again

[@SkratchPlays]

Lol. Just showed some screen shots that were posted with results 😅

[@marc23009]

I dont really loss alot of dmg. its more because of the 500 less turns

[@franklindesign6943]

tell me when u showcase Serpent's Will + poison cloud on all heads and you can't do shit for 10mins. lol

[@Proktor44]

plarium slowly destroy this game....

[@dekatexas]

I dont care either i still get max chest but my clan mates that are lower are having a hard time.

[@snackboxRSL]

hydra is so buggy rn its not even funny ...

[@leonritterbex1907]

Hydra was my Favorite content and after the changes I dont want to play Hydra anymore. I went from 3B Hydra Points down to 450M Points. I would say its not about I dont have dmg or Speed I get multiple champs over 320 Speed up to 390 and 8k+ ATK with 330KDMG+ on Multiple in Savage/Lethal/Merciless. I dont have any Max HP Champs beside Royal and Husk. It just feels like they fcked many players. In my opinion the better way they could have fixed the Trunda issue would have been to nerf Yumeko reset and lower Trunda dmg by 30%. Then get Champs like Kardaver back that strong and make more Champs broken to reach Trunda dmg. Make Poison and LP Burn Bomb more effectiv on Hydra. Maybe also for the biggest Clans they could do a UNM Hydra with 8x Points and make Blessing doesnt work at it so they are not perma Shotting heads there. But after that chages I dont like to play the 3 Hours of Hydra anymore each week

[@taemeister9302]

I actually love the hydra change. Everybody is on an even playing lvl. No more weaklings outdamaging me with a Wixwell team. Two thumbs and toes way up for the new change! Gj Plarium

[@periculummus]

We are the anomalies on this, but I am 100% with you. They leveled the playing field, and not many people see that. Yeah it needs some tweaks but overall these changes are great for the longevity of hydra, and the game. And I'm an end game player saying this.

[@modernthinker300]

What's this nonsense about decrease speed no longer being desirable? You folks have lost your gaming minds if you think this is the case. The way YOU DEPLOY decrease speed may require some nuanced adjustments... Put your gaming thinking caps on people. C'mon. You're being far too emotional and throwing the baby out with the bath water with your bitterness when you dunk on decrease speed.

[@evalman9563]

Hey someone with a brain 😱 Keep on rockin in the free world 😎 I still use my nekmo for decrease speed-for example as soon as i start a fight! Or as soon as heads can be damaged 🤔 or to slow decay ao he doesnt put up poison cloud before my block debuff comes up or i have other heads to damage-1-2 ive killed in the mean time

[@jasonsaulters6027]

Most people are trying to auto battle and decreased speed is much less desirable now that the decapitated heads having limited hp and coming back with block damage. Sure it's still a good debuff to blget back to your skills but it's also more turns doing 0 damage.

[@twocowsgaming]

Of the champs your talking about, I have one, Duchess. How about talk about a Hydra team that is reasonable, and isn't going to cost a fortune in $$$ or resources? I like your guides, but this one misses the mark my friend.

[@B______L]

Hydra is just tough and requires strong champions who are good at Hydra. Here are your budget champs: uggo, husk, Royal guard. That's about it.

[@B______L]

Hydra's not for n00bs.

[@twocowsgaming]

@B______L not a noob.

[@twocowsgaming]

@B______L I have several "strong Champs, but I get sick of seeing endless videos about Trunda, Marion, and Gnut and how their an easy way to "hack the game". Going all in on two Champs and spending hours of time earning an end game champ is not an easy way to beat Hydra. How about putting together an actual strategy to beat Hydra, instead of solving your problems by throwing money at it? That's my point.

[@marvinmcmiller4260]

The changes are absolutely garbage

[@virtualbunksie5117]

Wish CCs would switch off comments. Really just awful coning into a video and seeing comments all the time of complaints. People get over it. I've played 4+ years as a f2p and I'm enjoying the changes. Yes hydra has been reworked. Oh no they said they would do that from the start, along with extra heads and so on. Took them 2 years to do anything and everyone's been abusing it. Cool great so you had trunda now that gives you 10x the gear rewards over everyone else who doesn't. Just making you stronger and them weaker. Yall just moaning face cry babies and genuinely most of these comments are just to get likes from other players. So honestly get over yourselves.

[@sawyerslack9782]

You don't have to read the comments. Yeah they are negative but for the right reason it's delusional to say everyone is here to get likes. No one needs to get over themselves you need to get your head out of the sand. You're crying about everyone else crying. They barely fixed an issue and created 10 more. Trunda is still way too strong compared to every other champ. While the Wixwell nerf is way too much. Taunt now has no meta use in any content. Why buff hydra and not lower chest threshold. This affects only mid-late game players. If they kept the same threshold at least slightly buff the chest rewards. Doesn't affect trunda teams when they do billions still. If everyone's damage is 50% less then many clans won't be able to kill the hydra to get x2 rewards. Doesn't effect trunda teams when they do billions still. Like you said it took them 2 years to do anything about it and still never bothered to actually play test their crappy update. Because if they did they would realized nothing was really fixed. So how is it a good update I'm curious?

[@virtualbunksie5117]

@sawyerslack9782 well let's put it this way, my personal best on NM hydra was 56 million pre nerf. This week I managed to get 52 million after nerf. For me it's balanced the game out just a touch fairer. Yeah trunda still hits but so can most champs built at a good level. But I was claiming a couple chests a week from personal milestones, others were collecting 90+ chests worth of points, the gear balance alone made them stronger and everyone else weaker, it completely screwed the game and the balance of every pvp area in the game. I feel all the updates with the extra dungeons have given them a reason to hike the milestone goals in tourneys and events, perfectly fair. Along with changing how the hydra works, I just wish they did it alongside 2 new heads as they mentioned when hydra was first released, they would be rebalanced and adding more heads. Look we all have our opinions, some are greatful to have a game I'm happy to play every day for over 4 years, I've never had that from any other game, franchise yes but single game no. I'm happy it changes, I'm happy it all does. We can complain, or we can accept and enjoy it for the fun of playing and watching people complain. It was fun for awhile but it has become over the last year, every comment in every video, is either a copy paste, or the most opinionated topic at that point, hence the pathetic need for likes. I guarantee you go into any video and people will still be talking about a way plarium could add farming books to the game, like cmon, they won't, stop saying it ugh. It's been years now. Get over it. Again if people don't like it good. They're just bad at the game, or abuse what others can't, then complain how their respective governments take take take and never share, yet they be farming and complaining when it's made fairer. Again, pathetic.

[@lPHOENIXZEROl]

Love how they introduced Thor with an AOE slow on his A3 when this was planned and made it so you now need to avoid using his A3 because slow is detrimental to hydra. It's almost like Plarium doesn't understand how their own game works outside the gambling aspect which is all they really care about.