Double the flash power! Godox AD-B2 / Flashpoint Twin Head for AD200 and eVolv 200

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Metered Readings in text: 10 feet in 7" reflector
AD200 in Bowens S Mount Adapter: f/5.6 +.9
AD360ii in Bowens S Mount Adapter: f/8 +.6
One AD200 in AD-B2 mount: f/8 +.2
Two AD200 in AD-B2 mount w/ 2 bulbs: f/11 +.2
The Godox AD-B2 is a mount designed to merge the power from two AD200 pocket strobes and combined it to deliver 400 w/s in a bowens mount.
Description from Adorama:
Turn your eVOLV200 R2 Pocket Flash into the next level of intelligent strobe life!
Flashpoint introduces the eVOLV Twin that joins two eVOLV’s to create a 400ws head with brilliant LED modelling.
The double header is more than just a power hitter. All you have to do is plug the original flashtubes from your two eVOLV’s into the Twin. Simply remove the modular heads from the eVOLV’s and slip lock the eVOLV200 bodies into the channel on the Twin and twosomes your power pleasure.
The Twin bracket has a light stand receiver with a tilt lock that is ready to attach to any 5/8” stud or light support. You now have a standard Bowens S-type friendly bracket head for all your essential modifiers; reflectors, softboxes, Parapops or snoots, and an umbrella shaft channel. You don’t need two eVOLV’s to take advantage of the 2X 20w LED modeling feature. Just one body will power the lamp with one barebulb inserted.
But, with a duo headed eVOLV200, you can have a real blast!
The eVOLV200, with the heart of the world famous Streaklight 360 TTL and the soul of the ever popular XPLOR 600 TTL, is now compatible with R2 Canon, Nikon, Sony, Fujifilm and Olympus/Panasonic camera systems. The compact and efficient solution for travel, easy setup with the reliability of the Flashpoint R2 Wireless System. Never before has off camera lighting been so user friendly and masterful. It will change the way you harness your camera’s technology.
Now, twice as nice.
Combines 2 eVOLV’s into a single 400ws power champ
2 brilliant LED modeling lights straddle the barebulb flashtubes
Add your Bowens S-type modifiers directly to the Twin
The bracket is attaches to any 5/8” studded light stand or support
Accepts reflectors, softboxes, umbrella and more

[@robhallphoto]

Hey everyone quick update until I get a formal video up: This is NOT designed to use the AD360 / streaklight bulb. I, along with rumor sites and for sale listings all had this information wrong. The center slot is designed for placement of a single AD200 bulb for an even lighting pattern and will only draw from the 1 slot on the AD200. Meaning you can use it in the center without a second ad200 body attached. Please help me spread this information to prevent users from attempting. Other notes from questions asked - The 2 leds are independent of the power packs. Flashpoint states they are 20w each on their description. All I know is combined they are significantly more powerful than the AD600 led. Also, the LED's do NOT turn on and off with the flash recycle.

[@1967incPhotography]

The description of the AD-B2 on Amazon said that you could use the AD360 bulb in the center. I'm sorry to hear this doesn't work, but thanks for saving me the $75! Thanks for the video as well. I'm considering ordering a second AD600 and the AD-B2 instead of adding an AD360. Has the dual AD200 setup been reliable for you (triggering consistently, not overheating, etc?)

[@taisho1125R]

It took me weeks to find a video like this WITH examples in the harshest conditions and your test numbers. So thanks a lot for this video. So many other videos and websites with so much missing information as to actual live performance.

[@dunnymonster]

Another inspired product by Godox. They are really killing it with the flexibility of the Godox system as a whole 😃

[@dpfreedman]

Robert, I really appreciate your videos. They're concise, to the point, and professionally presented. They're also fluff-free which is something that can't be said about most photo gear reviews. The only negative thing I have to say is that you've cost me a bundle. I've been a Godox AD180 and AD360 user since before they were commercially available but your reviews convinced me it was past time for me to modernize my inventory. Two AD200s and a TT350S now on hand with an AD600 with remote head AND AD-B2 en route from China. Godox has clearly knocked one out of the park with their 2.4 gHz ecosystem.

[@robhallphoto]

+David Freedman haha, it's a local joke within our photography community that I'm a bad person to talk to if you don't want to spend money. I really appreciate the comments regarding my channel as it takes a good deal of effort to put this content out. It's so fulfilling when people find it valuable. I know a lot of people like to hang onto gear till the wheels fall off. If it ain't broke don't fix it, right? But, I've experienced so many benefits when I'm able to simplify my process. I just notice that when I can work with less parts, setup faster, and otherwise eliminate daily aggravations, that I am able to work with more purpose and finish feeling better overall. Today I walked in a hotel lobby (multiple weddings taking place) and saw someone carefully navigating their opened stand around furniture with a power cord (alien bee to vagabond) hitting their face and pocket wizard dangling. And I thought about how thankful I was for my AD200 on a cheetahstand lol.

[@lessincavage1847]

As always, you provided super valuable info for this item (as well as, many others). LOVE your breakdowns on the Godox/Flashpoint gear. You have become my official "go to" for any and all questions I have with my flashpoint gear. Please keep doing what you do brother, most appreciated! :)

[@corykphotography]

Would be awesome if Godox made a mark II version with a better and less plastic-y light stand mount. Definitely picking one up still as I just bought my second Evolv 200!

[@GeorgeTorres]

man that wall had me scrubbing my screen

[@robhallphoto]

Got em.

[@billzidis2656]

That's a really good idea from Godox.That company is really know what the customers need.From the other side,if you own a godox ad600 like i do and most of the people,this is not essential,also with the money that you need to buy two ad200 plus the adapter you can buy the ad600 and save money as well...And before someone mention the portability,i can say the ad600 is portable enough with the build in battery..Really good reviews as always!Godox need to give you some kudos here

[@robhallphoto]

Yeah they listen well and seem to be one step ahead in their releases. While I agree that it's "non-essential" when compared directly to an AD600, it's actually far more cost effective for me. Previously I had 4 V860II's, 1 AD600 (TTL). Now with 2 AD200's and the AD-B2 I get rid of 2 V860II's and the AD600 and feel comfortable with all the same functionality and almost all of the power.

[@mike216514]

I would respectfully disagree with the AD600 > 200*2 idea. Of course AD600 is more powerful and you only need to charge one battery instead of two. Yet having 2 flashes instead of one give you a fail save solution if one fails to work on site. Also, two AD200s is still smaller than one AD600 in storage size, provided than you'll bring bowens mount modifiers anyway. Of course if you always have an assistant and also travel by car or van, my words are neglect-able, yet for a portion of the market, including me, photographers need to travel on their own without any helping hands or wheels. Anyway for sure AD600 gives you best value/cost solution, just I see AD200 and this twin head bowens mount a nice add on/alternative to his big brothers.

[@billzidis2656]

Ho Sze, Mike Law Definitely.If you can buy 3 X AD200 and AD600 then of course but if you cannot or you don't want then goes to ad600.at least in my case

[@robhallphoto]

People can go back and forth on which is a better solution all day, whatever - thats for each user to determine. The great thing here is that we have both options.

[@sunnykiri3]

Bill Zidis, I agreed 100% ad 600bm is the way to go as for me instead of buying two AD200.

[@marckydasaint8730]

Thank you so much for this review Robert. Those HSS shots were very impressive from the twin head. I think this is the only video showing an actual shoot with this new, cool product.. So, it is greatly appreciated.

[@chrisdowswell]

Once again.... Godox is shaking things up!! Thanks for sharing.

[@dk6500]

Hi Robert, love your videos. You can modify the AD-B2 by removing the bolt, at remove the 2 click-washers and reassemble the parts with out the washers.

[@yaronharel8463]

Thank you very much. You've helped me to decide to go with the with the 2 AD200 instead of buying AD600 and mainly because I have already 1 AD200.

[@robhallphoto]

Hey Yaron, I’m so happy to hear my video was helpful in making your decision, enjoy!

[@Kamiklaasie]

I love almost everything about the Godox AD B2. Why didn’t they make a spring loaded handle??? It is impossible to turn it past a big softbox. I switched the spring loaded handle of an old Bowens T bracket I did not use anymore. And while I was at it I removed the two toothed washers on the inside so I can adjust the angle smoothly. Now the AD B2 is perfect!

[@krazyk57]

Great info ...As always..Godox is so ahead of the curve with lighting.... Canon/Nikon are miles away with their speedlights....

[@zeksel1]

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! This review has examples, a great explanation, and actual light comparison output figures! And solution options! You absolutely rock! This is the answer I was looking for since I love the AD200 but I know it's barely powerful enough to overpower the sun.. and this solution solves that w/o buying new large heavy gear!

[@Photomeike]

Great video and review!

[@tristanwilhelm9600]

awesome video man and great explanations, I just ordered the Evolv200 (times 2) with the double bracket and 38 parapop. Good things to come, thank you much.

[@robhallphoto]

+Tristan Wilhelm heck yeah! Enjoy it man it’s some super versatile gear.

[@makatron]

That's it, I'm sold on the AD200, lets get 3.

[@easton_ography]

Nice video as always man. I wanna see more of the shooting side from you. As much as I love the gear, your photography is amazing dude.

[@robhallphoto]

+Easton Dread Pirate Roberts thanks a lot. I know I've had a significant amount of white desk videos. It's just so hard, I'm not a youtuber who does photography, I'm a photographer who does KZbin. So anytime I'm showing BTS shoot it's something I specifically set up for youtube only. I just have so many weddings and do all my own editing so carving out time for outdoor KZbin videos is hard. I've got something set up for next week though, and I'm trying to focus more on getting those shooting videos.

[@nuohk]

@RobertHallPhotography are you going to do a stand alone review of the H1200? I have yet seen anyone on youtube do a review on it . You did mention it on a previous video, doing a power comparison. Curious on seeing how easy it is to over power the sun with a 1200ws strobe in HSS. Keep up the good work, really enjoying your content

[@LarsDahlin]

Oohh. This is so genius, and sick! Love it!

[@film.foto.report]

Godox really has the best solutions - einfach GENIAL! Danke für deinen Tip Thanks for your Video!

[@robhallphoto]

+Frank Ullrich you're welcome!

[@kennethhouston4838]

Hello, first time viewer of your channel. This video came in right on time as I was waffling on whether to purchase the 200 or 600. The adapter bracket for the 2x ad200 just sealed that decision for me.

[@robhallphoto]

So glad to hear it helped you out!

[@stewardsproductions]

Thank you for posting this!

[@tw06le1]

the people at Godox are Geniuses!! x2AD200 AD600 AR400 (AD360III?)

[@mrscillalatte]

Love this set up

[@Georgeinthejungle]

Dude, we need to get Godox to make reflector plates which we can add to the s bracket when using single ad200 with softboxes. The light leak from the back is killing so much light for no reason at all!!!

[@robhallphoto]

John Aldred just did a DIYP article that hit on my results and another photographer's analysis of the light leak from the S mount. Turns out there's already a product out there designed for this. Heres the article: www.diyphotography.net/godox-ad-b2-makes-ad200-lights-even-powerful/ And here's the product: amzn.to/2vcGXaP

[@Georgeinthejungle]

Robert Hall Photography I have read it. Thing is, as a third party solution, this is sort of a hack (a cool one though). Godox has to address this within their product offerings (you need to get them to do it man!!!!) Any chance you could test whether the native umbrella reflector could also work? Or would it constraint light from reaching the edges of a large modifier ie 30x120 strip softboxes due to the concave shape it has?)

[@ThePandaPhotographer]

Good vid Robert. Keep it coming

[@stevenmuncy491]

Thanks for the detailed guide numbers.

[@robhallphoto]

no problem, glad some people out there still know what the heck they mean lol.

[@nlpix1]

great when hss or short recycle time is required? It doubles the power, but more important using 2 flashes halves the recycle time and let you use hss with the output staying the same. So it beats an AD-400

[@vishweshwarkandalgaonkar3446]

Nice light, thanks for sharing

[@fotowalo]

would be nice to be able to put the extensions for the Ad200 to the AD B2, so you could have a lighter head at the end of the lightstand.....

[@phillip2446]

why can't you?

[@fotowalo]

they are to large @ @@phillip2446

[@fotowalo]

One head passes, the the other is to "thick to insert" @@phillip2446

[@blackestknights]

@@fotowalo the v2 version solves that issue.

[@dauntless48]

Great video btw! Thanks for this well done comparison.

[@GregWallis]

As usual, great stuff.

[@Princeton_James]

Thanks. U answered all of my questions.

[@benjaminleavitt3666]

Could you show us how you are mounting and using your AD200s by themselves?

[@robhallphoto]

+Benjamin Leavitt if you watch my video on modifying the s mount adapter you can see.

[@red1gray]

I've had bad luck with AD-B2 units so far. Same problem with each: #1 port doesn't fire with one or two AD200 units attached. Middle #1 port fires, #2 port fires, but not top #1 port. This unit was Flashpoint's. First three were Godox. After the third unit didn't work, I thought the problem may be my AD200 units. So I returned them. Bought two new AD200's and the Flashpoint AD-B2. #1 and #2 ports fired simultaneously as designed, but only for about five minutes before the #1 port started failing. I'm baffled. And I'd appreciate any feedback...

[@dauntless48]

Could you please do an overheating test? Comparing this set up to an AD600, the main difference I now see is the AD600's built in fan may keep it working with overheating protection kicking in for longer shoots.

[@robhallphoto]

Overheating figures are detailed in the AD200 user manual, if you could those to reference the comparison you are looking for?

[@dauntless48]

Robert Hall Photography The manual says the AD200 should be able to go 60 1/1 bursts before needing to cool down. I was wondering if the B2 allow the AD200's to go longer before overheating, both in single and dual configurations, and how that compared to the AD600.

[@tongkiparts4672]

Adrian Creary important question to you, Do you ever in a situation where you had to shoot 60 continuous burst in 1/1 power ? I don't think so

[@robhallphoto]

it's going to be identical since it uses the same counter. Only difference is when you are using 2 at 1/2 power to match the power of 1 at full, you would get the benefit of the 1/2 power counter.

[@pierrev.8192]

Did anyone notice, that the hole for the umbrella is at the wrong position, when you mount a (holed) Bowens standard reflector? So you cannot use the Ad-B2 with reflector plus umbrella? That would be ridiculous!

[@CancelOkay]

Thank you for the review. Such a nice background you had. To bad it was bokehed all the way. Or it just me :)

[@IAmSamuelCharpentier]

I wouldn't leave it in the car if I need 2 lights as : 1 it is more efficient so less power consumption/ more powerfull even if single light and 2 has a modeling light on barebulb which is great!

[@TheI89o]

Hi Robert, Thanks for another awesome work. I´m a big fan of your reviews. I have a limited budget to spend on lighting equipment and I definetly will go with godox because it is a fenomenal bang for the buck. For work on Interior / exterior portraiture, do you think two AD200 are a better option than a sinlge AD600? THANKS!

[@thatdiyguyraymondmonk1225]

It's pretty cool that you can do that, but isn't it cheaper to just buy the ad600

[@robhallphoto]

+Raymond Monk this keeps being brought up. If you compare to a TTL AD600, no it's roughly the same price. If you compare to a manual AD600 then the AD600 is cheaper but the features don't match up. And I don't think it should look at as a direct comparison because the setup in this video could be used as 2 separate lights, and an AD600 can't do that. The power comparisons are for people to determine whether this will satisfy their power needs.

[@kimeunsoo1807]

Hi Robert! Thanks for the informative videos. I have a quick question. I just got AD-B2 and mounted it on my Matthews C-stand (5/8” column tip) and even when fully tightened, it’s wobbly and AD-B2 is positioned not upright but slightly slanted. Same thing happens when I mount it on Matthews 6” pin with 5/8” end. Upon close inspection of the AD-B2 mounting portion, I realize the reason why this happens is because the way AD-B2 mounting portion is shaped on the inside. The innermost diameter is smaller than 5/8” so the pin does not go all the way in. As a result, even when fully tightened, AD-B2 is wobbly and the worst part is that the tightening screw ends up damaging the pin (chrome finishing is coming off). Interestingly, I did not have this problem when I mount the AD-B2 on a Manfrotto or any other umbrella swivel mounts (lite-tite). I just can’t use it on any of my Matthews C-stands or baby stands. Did you run into any problem similar to this? Can you think of a solution to this problem? Much appreciated.

[@zemxadmin]

Beautifull pictures!

[@kozz1984]

To double power of xplor 600 1:1 Only 1.) Plug XTR 16 reciever into Xplor 600 2.) Set Xplor 600 to optical transmission mode (lightning bolt) and set power to 1/1 3.) Add flash delay (custom function 0) of 23 to your X1T-C trigger by holding CH 3 seconds Enjoy double the power in HSS at 1:1 for $20 (cost of XTR16). Life saver when you are pushing the SS up to 1/8000.

[@robhallphoto]

First line is a bit misleading. This only would increase output in HSS. This isn’t HSS, this is hypersync/supersync/hi-sync And it suffers the same issues that hypersync does (which is why people tend to prefer HSS in the first place) in that you will get a gradient of light output across the frame/subject.

[@kozz1984]

True, but unless you are in a clinical test setting (white wall + pixel peeping) you will be hard pressed to see a gradient. Still for $20 you can effectively get 1200 watts out of the xplor 600. Just trying to help, I wish I knew about this method a year ago because if I had I wouldn't of purchased two xplor 600's!

[@gurudhamal5803]

AD-B2 looks impressive. Can you tell what is the colour temperature of the 20w LEDs and if matches with AD400pro/AD600pro?

[@jameskorin6963]

Robert, great video as always. I want to keep the bulbs on this unit all of the time. Do you know what flashtube cover fits this particular set up? The Xplor 600 flashtube cover is too shallow unfortunately.

[@robhallphoto]

Unfortunately I don’t know of any that can confirm fit. But if the Xplor 600 one doesn’t then I would say no Godox cover will fit, because the studio strobes are all the same or shorter (Xplor 600 pro wouldn’t work either. Maybe look for a snoot instead for protection? Or the Impact fresnel head!

[@DJTREO650]

Do you set both 200's to group A/channel 1 so they both change at the sametime from the trigger? Or do you have to set one to group A and the other to group B? I have not found anyone that has covered this. Thanks

[@GiorgosAleksandrakis]

Excellent review and tests as always!!! Do you know how many watts are the led panels in full power ? Thanks man !!

[@BenjaminMooreinJapan]

Nice overview as always! How would you compare the modeling lights on this to the one on the AD600 (which I unfortunately find a bit disappointing)?

[@DanielGrovePhoto]

I wonder if I can make a silver reflector for my S1 bracket to fill that gap and reflect more light forward.

[@robhallphoto]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nnPHe56ImcmtsJY

[@DanielGrovePhoto]

@@robhallphoto Oh dang! Thank you!

[@photonephotography8596]

I was wondering if they will release a new unit for 2xAD360 (which makes 720 Ws POWER !!!). Wouldn't it be awesome? ❗️❗️❗️

[@mbeutel5854]

It'd be heavy and WAY larger since the AD360 is much thicker than the AD200 and it'd still require cords running down to the battery pack(s)

[@robhallphoto]

Doubt it. Requiring 2 power packs and 2 360 units for something that only provides .2 stop gain over an AD600, seems like it's not a good choice for them. and you'd lose efficiency with a cabled remote head (which would be necessary since the 360's are so much larger of a body), making it really pointless. I wouldn't expect many updates or add-ons to the AD360II moving forward.

[@photonephotography8596]

The point is: 1- that AD600 is too big and heavy for traveling, especially, if you fly; 2- that you can use the AD360 units separately as well as together; 3- that doubling the power output gives you 720Ws-above many portable strobes in the market. The biggest problem of the mid-level Godox strobes are the lack of a modeling light. I think that with a twin mount the add-on modeling light would add a big usability to AD360 units as well with the double power output = 720Ws, which is a significant difference. From a marketing point of view: There are people who already own more than one AD360 units. I think big majority would love to buy a twin-mount to double their light efficiency with the add-on option of a modeling light.

[@FGKaye]

I wish you would have mentioned how it mounts an umbrella.

[@robhallphoto]

same as everything else, it goes in the umbrella slot and has a screw to tighten it down.

[@robhallphoto]

same position as Bowens S mount adapter.

[@alanabley525]

Excellant video. Is there a way one receiver can accommodate both Units?

[@robhallphoto]

What do you mean one receiver? If you're using 2 AD200s and each has an internal receiver...then you automatically have two receivers.

[@alanabley525]

@@robhallphoto Yes of course, I guess the only way would be to switch to the Godox communication system. At the moment I use a Rovelight and an assortment of different manufacture's speed lights with Cactus V5's that work on anything I have available, but someone suggested I look at the Flashpoint R2SP. Thanks for getting back to me, watch all your videos.

[@richardbierman9856]

Shame there's no adb2 elinchrom mount!

[@blackestknights]

the same company owns godex bowens and wes photography so there may be some bias there. bowens has just started manufacturing again (actually godex) bowens factory before they went bust was being run by godex as a separate factory new bowens will be made in the godex factory.

[@simonvandenbroek6384]

hey, great video! I am about to purchase this exact setup, what lightstand do you use in this video? I have C stand about 10kg for my ad600. can I use a less heavy one for this setup?

[@AllenFreemanMediaGuru]

I got 3 of the LED adapters for the eVOLVE 200 (I have 3 of them). They didn't fit.

[@mergeworksmedia]

Is there a way to power both modeling lights with one body or do you need two? One of the main reasons I'm interested in this adapter is for the modeling light(s). It appears that each light is powered by the flash unit on the corresponding side. I read the description, but I'm not clear on this point. Either way, if each lamp is 20 watts, it's still going to be a lot brighter than the XPLOR's 10 watt LED.

[@EnRisStory]

Thnks for review....

[@ingunnjohansen6612]

Hello and thanks for your good videos! I read about the power of using Godox AD-B2 for AD200, but I wonder using this reduce the recycling time and how much if using just one AD200? Hope you can give me an answer for this, when I photograph often in bright sun. Ingunn

[@robhallphoto]

Using one will make no difference in recycle time.

[@WaqasNasir]

Gelling AD-B2 is not easy ...

[@tkimaginestudio]

Why did you not test whether the modelling light works well in a modifier?

[@robhallphoto]

Partly because the video was already long and very few people have shown interest. I also don't consider these LED lamps to be true "modeling lamps" as they do not offer the same direction as the flash bulb and will not show the same pattern of light. But, the eyeball test tells me they'll be serviceable in a dim studio but still not very useful outdoors.

[@tkimaginestudio]

Robert Hall Photography Thanks! I'd still like to see how they perform indoors. Most LED modelling lights are pretty useless, but at least this mount has two of them. Is it still not enough or already useful?

[@BrianMackey2010]

Don’t know if you will get this but, what single flash tube did you use with 2 ad200’s?

[@griftereric83]

In one part of your video, I saw that you placed the bulb in between the 2 socket sets instead of properly putting it in either socket 1 or socket 2. Does this work? If it does, what is the effect? Does the 2 AD200 give power to 1 bulb?and if it does, won't the bulb be busted easily?

[@robhallphoto]

addressed in new video (we were all wrong title)

[@vc6218]

Why did you have one bulb in with two ad200s?

[@ottawamountainman]

Thanks for this review and taking time to make the measurements! quick questions: 1. With two AD200 do you get a stronger modelling light than the one on the AD600? 2. The baby pin receiver... is it the same depth as the one on the AD600 (ie not quite the standard depth and really benefits from and elinchrome Adapter)? Thanks

[@robhallphoto]

+ottawamountainman 1) yes 2) not sure what you are referring to by baby pin receiver.

[@jessestarr2940]

He's talking about the slot that a lightstand goes into. Think it is short on the ad600 compared to some other strobes.

[@greatwhitewing]

I think I heard you say the center bulb position (1 bulb) is for a different bulb than comes with the AD200 when using two AD200's? Any pros/cons to one vs two bulbs?

[@robhallphoto]

That was the original plan but not how it was manufactured for production.

[@ezekielfernandez4077]

oh man... i'm so excited to get this one! does the TTL still work well? in my country 2x AD200 is the price of 1 AD600M

[@nelsonfoo5101]

Yes TTL works with AD200 if you have the right Godox 2.4Ghz trigger and camera combination

[@robhallphoto]

Yes the TTL + HSS still performed exactly as expected. It's nice because since it's treated as a single group it's a single pre-flash and just like using a single AD200.

[@opendrivers]

thanx...

[@robhallphoto]

you're welcome

[@therookiefisherman5234]

So eVOLV 200 and Godox ad 200 what is the difference? You mention AD 200 but on the light, it says eVOLV 200!!!

[@robhallphoto]

There isn't a difference.

[@cweb1988]

so....what softbox can I use with the AD200.....that mounts easily?

[@saskelee]

How did you trigger those lights with a flash

[@tongkiparts4672]

Hi Robert, I have experience with PB960 battery life only a year or so Question is, Will this AD200 last longer, say like Quantum Turbo 2x2 could last 3 years Also PB960 does have power head reliability problems, when batteries dead, the head will only last double or so, I think it is related to capacitor or other components inside Want to know if AD200 battery system is worthed and last longer, because I can modify dead battery of PB960 but it seems AD200 battery is compact and not easy to modify when it is dead Any ideas ?

[@robhallphoto]

No clue! It's only been out for 6 months...so nobody can speak to the longevity of the AD200's Li-on battery. I will say, PB960's have been around for a long time now, so there's a good chance despite using it for a year, your's was manufactured and sat on a shelf for much longer.

[@mrz1342]

i cannot find it in Godox website of B&H as the same box on your table here!

[@robhallphoto]

+mrz 1342 I think it's still going to be a short while before you'll see it on sale. Mine is direct from Godox for review purposes.

[@mrz1342]

Robert Hall Photography appreciated for your videos; pls keep continue yr tutorials for Godox series since you are the only one on KZbin who is updated and teaching in details well :)

[@robhallphoto]

I have no plans to stop and hope to be introducing some other equipment as well!

[@mrz1342]

Robert Hall Photography thanks pls answer 2 questions above I mentioned!

[@simianinc]

Nice. What modifier are you using out in the field?

[@robhallphoto]

In this video, a 24" collapsible softbox double diffused. Godox brand.

[@tachanonratabutr8961]

i wonder this one can attach with beauty dish bowen mount ? The length of lamp head will not hit the reflector disc of the beauty dish right?

[@robhallphoto]

I think it would be fine, it's out more than other flash tubes but not significantly so.

[@clarencenewby716]

Great video, what sb is that?

[@robhallphoto]

A generic 24x24" bowens collapsible.

[@ricardourroz9322]

Hi. Thanks fot sharing the video. Have a quick question. How would this set up compared to let´s say Einstein Strobe? I have a 2.2meters octabox and usually, I only use one light weather is for the fashion editorials or beauty editorials. Thanks!

[@robhallphoto]

It would be a little bit less powerful. But I haven’t touched an Einstein in a while so can’t give you an exact figure.

[@ricardourroz9322]

Thanks! Sounds like a good traveling option.

[@erickj71]

the ad200 combo gives you the advantage of two TTL lights that you can use indiviually or combine when you need the extra power. i like that the options are there depending on what and how you shoot. is there even a need for the for the AD360? i know that they have more power than the AD200 but not as much as the AD600 but is the difference worth the size/portability benefit of the AD200?

[@robhallphoto]

+erickj71 honestly I consider the AD360II pointless nowadays (as a new purchase). I just wouldn't choose it over the AD200, even more so with this accessory out now.

[@karl4834]

Hmmm I just bought a 360ii only a couple of months ago, lol. JUst like me to be behind the curve, haha. Still, its a quantum leap over ganging my 3 sb910's together and it has impressed the hell out of me. Was also considering the 600 but your review has given me some pause, especially since I was considering springing for a 200 soon...so yer, 2 of them and that adapter. So much to consider.

[@Adityavarmaphotography]

Can 2 ad200 pro power equal to ad400 pro?

[@nemac23]

Is there a list of AD200 recycle times somewhere including in HSS and does the AD-B2 affect the recycle times at all? Thanks.

[@robhallphoto]

Well, the max is 2s at full power on an ad200, and it goes down by 50% as you cut the power down. So, 2s 1/1, 1s 1/2, .5s 1/4, .25 1/8 and so on. HSS recycles just as fast however it will trigger the heat protection faster. The AD-B2 would effectively cut your recycle time in 1/2 for the same amount of light output on a subject since you are drawing from two power packs. Full power on a single AD200 (at x distance in X modifier) would take 2s to recycle and the AD-B2 with 2 AD200's would be set at 1/2 power to achieve the same output and therefore recycle in 1s.

[@surfsmith]

Can I just strap two together and get the same power?

[@robhallphoto]

not really, cause you wouldn't have the reflective plate behind them. Also that heavily restricts modifier selection

[@suryachataut]

TTL when using dual unit? When you are using 1 AD200 (TTL) camera will send the data to fire that 1 AD200. However if you are using 2 AD200 using AD-B2 then both units will fire. Does this mean TTL output will be 2x? Or do the 2 AD200 communicate (via AD-B2) and distribute the power between the 2 AD200? Thanks.

[@robhallphoto]

It doesn’t work how you described, however the TTL output will be as expected when working with a single unit.

[@karaokekingskingdom]

That set up is significantly more expensive than just using a ad600 and a slave speedlight for fill. Can you justify the extra price.

[@CymBan]

on Adorama 2 Xplor 200's + AD-B2 = $660 ($299 x 2 + $59) A TTL Xplor 600 is $750. I fail to see how that's 'significantly more expensive'. An Xplor 600 manual is ~$600. but w/o the flexibility of a 2 light setup. I currently have just one Xplor 200. I rarely need the full power of an Xplor 600 but I have more use for a 2 light setup.So later I can buy another 200 + this adapter and get close the 600's power for those few times I need it.

[@karaokekingskingdom]

I was looking at ebay where the current price of a ad600 in the uk is low as £420 and a ad200 is about £270 and the adapter is £50. so nearly £600 for 2 ad200s+adapter for half a stop less light for 50% more cost is significant to me. You could buy any optical slave for a 2 light setup with the ad600 and still come in cheaper.

[@CymBan]

Novembre Pleut true but if I'm going to spend that sort of money i'd rather buy from a reputable dealer with a warranty rather than the lowest priced seller on eBay

[@robhallphoto]

But can an AD600 split in half and be two lights? No. Also, that's comparing the Manual AD600BM vs. the TTL capable AD200. If you are talking about a TTL AD600 then the price difference is almost non existent. Personally, i justify the price within my video, I'm using these all day as my two primary lights. The only additional cost for me is a $70 head and I could theoretically just sell my AD600. If comparing the two as options, the deciding factor is whether 2 AD200's would benefit your work more than a single AD600.

[@karaokekingskingdom]

these are all from legitimate outlets even though they are lowest price, and I believe all electronic goods sold within the uk come with a 12 month manufacturer warranty anywho.

[@andrewselbyphotography]

Am I the only one that didn't have to rig the s mount to get the 200 to fit?

[@joshhaas2410]

I've seen others saying the AD200 doesn't fit but mine slid right in (even though it was close to the max opening size on the S Mount). Perhaps they've improved it for the more recent ones?

[@Adityavarmaphotography]

For outdoor situations to over power sun can we use this mount and use 2 ad200 pro or should we buy ad400 pro

[@Garbid]

2 ad200 give as much as ad600. No need in ad400. 2 ad200 + ad b2 weights less than ad400 but gives almost as ad600pro.

[@bedevere007]

Does tha bulb purchased separately and how much is it about? Thank you

[@robhallphoto]

No. It used the bulbs from the AD200.

[@bedevere007]

@@robhallphoto thanks

[@DrKitanoTakashi]

Hi, sorry if this has been asked already, I have scrolled through all the comments and watched the video again but didn't catch anything regarding this. If I were to adjust the the light manually or exposure compensation of the lights if shooting in ttl, do I have to adjust the two ad200's individually or does the b2 make them both operate like they are both 'one unit'? For example if I was to alter the light strength from the transmitter would I have to adjust group A and B to make sure they are both equal power or does the B2 make both the flashes operate as if it's just one group (i.e. Group A). Thanks a million Rob and everyone

[@DrKitanoTakashi]

Hah just my luck yeh it's been answered as I just spotted it now, it's treated as a single group. Now time to get that second 200... ;)

[@robhallphoto]

If both AD200 flashes are in group "A" then both will receive the same signal from the trigger. This is identical to how they would operate separately (but in the same group) as well.

[@DrKitanoTakashi]

Robert Hall Photography thanks for replying and thanking you again for your very informative videos. Looking forward to more :)

[@PlatSoul]

were the lights at full power in your field test?

[@robhallphoto]

I specificed within the video. They were all in HSS and between 1/2-1/8, aside from the shot where she was facing the sun which it was at full power. Outside of HSS these would have no problem in direct sunlight even at far distances

[@RogertEspaillat]

Could you inform me whats the CRI or TLIC from te 2 LED from the AD-B2?

[@robhallphoto]

I don’t have the tools to measure that.

[@brianminkc]

How does it work in TTL mode? Does the two units screw up the TTL computations? Do you have to use it in manual mode because of that?

[@robhallphoto]

+brianminkc it works fine, they are in the same group so they do their TTL reading at the same time

[@TheSunnySuttons]

Do you happen to know the power output if you combine it with the 7" RFT13 or the RFT19?

[@robhallphoto]

No, but I have a video (search Godox reflector and you’ll find it) that compares all the Godox reflectors including those two, and details power difference. Won’t really help relative to the outputs shared in this video because there’s no shared modifier, but you can get an idea of how strong they are relative to one another.

[@TheSunnySuttons]

@@robhallphoto yes I watched that reflector video sometime back, both videos are great and very informative as always. I am just look for ways to squeeze a bit more power out of the ad-b2. Thanks for the reply, much appreciated. 😍😍😍😍

[@kitsunenomoriphotography4498]

Excuse me, what model and mark is that 7 inch reflector you use??

[@robhallphoto]

No clue, default one that ships with the Xplor 600 from Flashpoint

[@abhishekbarthwal8343]

Flash adapter chahiye kise ko

[@jkahn923]

What’s the best way to gel the B2?

[@robhallphoto]

Only option really is independently gelling each barebulb, or crudely wrapping a gel sheet around both.

[@TheVisualVanguard]

Do you only get the 3 levels of modeling light brightness with the ad-b2? Or is there a way to select the modeling light brightness with just a single ad200 and a S bracket?

[@robhallphoto]

Theres only 3 levels of brightness on both the AD-B2 and a single AD200 (with fresnel or roundhead)

[@TheVisualVanguard]

Robert Hall Photography how do you adjust the brightness of a single ad 200 with fresnel head? I can only seem to turn it on/off from my xpro mk2 trigger. I’m not sure what I’m missing.

[@videodrome5]

can the ad200 pro and a regular ad200 be used in the B2?

[@robhallphoto]

Yes

[@eddie_santos]

would the Godox Dual Power Flash Bracket for AD200 work with the new Godox AD200Pro? I heard that the pins on the ad200 are not the same exact way and this may not be compatible when mounting the units on the back of this

[@robhallphoto]

Dunno where you heard that, the connectors are identical so as to be backwards compatible with all 3 heads on the original AD200, as well as accessories like the AD-B2 and extension head.

[@eddie_santos]

@@robhallphoto I got the bracket today and tried it at home and it worked with the AD 200 PRO. thanks again

[@K4kaShiii]

Would two ad200+that bracket thing be cheaper than a godox ad600 with no ttl?

[@nelsonfoo5101]

Not really. The cost of AD-B2 with 2x AD200 exceeds 1x AD600BM

[@K4kaShiii]

Just checked, it would be cheaper than an ad600 with ttl by about $80 .. (AUD)

[@robhallphoto]

+K4kaShiii no, but pretty much the same as one with TTL