Double Weave L Shawl part 2

[@annestrand6933]

Thanks to you and your videos I have now bought and old 4 shaft table loom, it looks to be in okay condition. Seeing what I can do with 4 shafts I think I will have much fun.

[@EsteeDarla]

Thats really nice and the color you chose really made it so much more beautiful

[@lsweeten1971]

Wow! I like how that turned out. It is neat how this method of weaving eliminates the need to sew the shawl at all. Efficient!

[@mnaythons]

I’m getting ready to make one of these. Thanks for the demo.

[@kapirk2244]

I am very impressed. I'm not a weaver yet, but I'm soon starting. I was just clicking around watching different videos to see what can be done. I must admit, this did not even occur to me. I must say, the effort, time and skill involved in this is well worth the beautiful finished project. It just amazed me.

[@mcsnygg]

Thanks for these videos; I've spent the whole day (almost) watching your double weave videos, and a couple of your other videos. You're a good teacher, I'm delighted to have found these! Thanks.

[@curmudgeon66]

Marianne Snygg You're welcome. I enjoy both the weaving and making videos. Of course an occasional comment makes me happy too. So . . . thank you for commenting.

[@anniredale7207]

brilliant. so easy to follow & understand your clever technique, as I'm a real novice weaver

[@kathgarvey]

Thank you for a great series of videos. Your explanations are easy to follow. Beautiful shawl too.

[@lindasamuelson4216]

Thank you so much for your expertise! I’m a rookie weaver, took my first class in March. I don’t believe in baby steps, so jumped right into the deep end with your double weave, v-shaped shawl. So happy to say I’m well on my way! My only regret is choosing a thread that is much too fine.

[@Juanelo1946]

The finished shawl is really amazing with it's "twisted fringe." The results are gorgeous! If you hadn't mentioned it, I might not have noticed that the model is headless. My eyes were fixed on the elegant shawl. Great job, Andy!

[@curmudgeon66]

Thanks John, it takes a twisted mind to do twisted fringe, but somehow I managed it.

[@curmudgeon66]

Vidím, že jsem stále komentáře v češtině, ale z nějakého důvodu Google (KZbin), nenechá mě přímo odpovědět na připomínky. Takže Děkuji lidem z České republiky, kteří sledují a komentují moje videa. A díky alespoň na Google, Překladač za to, že mi nějakou představu o tom, co se říká. I see that I am getting comments in Czech, but for some reason Google (KZbin) won't let me reply directly to the comments. So Thank you to the people from Czech Republic who are watching and commenting on my videos. And thanks at least to Google-Translate for giving me some idea of what is being said.

[@lis378]

I really like your youtubes, as you are very thorough. I could never figure out how to do a double weave shawl, but you made me understand it. Thank you for taking the time to do these videos.

[@anamariaovandojaramillo3964]

What a beautiful work!!! Hope one day I can learn to weave in one of this loom!!!

[@rachelcalado7807]

Excellent video! Nice clear instruction and video! Will have to try.

[@howlingwind1937]

Thank you for sharing the shawl turned out beautiful, I love your choice of colours. Cheers from Tasmania!

[@curmudgeon66]

Thanks

[@howlingwind1937]

@@curmudgeon66 you're welcome, I found another video you made on weaving and learnt a lot from t hr at also. Cheers!

[@Ylangzee]

Wow this is so amazing, a beautiful work of art. Thank you for sharing this wonderful tutorial. I'm so inspired.

[@rajeshgarggupta]

Really feel nice to watch this making of L shape shawl i dont know what you earn out of this but i see so much job satisfaction and confidence on your face.

[@queenofroses09]

This is really cool. I love shawls and I love colors from the purple spectrum. Now I just have to talk my husband into buying me a loom ;-)

[@WillowsGarden]

This is so beautiful, you are a true craftsman, almost a lost art. I must say whoever gets to wear this is a very lucky person. The colors are beautiful and the fringe is longer which I like, also love the model. The pattern matches perfectly, just gorgeous, thank you for sharing and have a wonderful day. :)

[@curmudgeon66]

Thanks . . . haven't decided yet where this one will call home but I really liked putting the colors together.

[@felicitywright791]

That's absolutely bloody brilliant! You have a new fan! x

[@LarryDMohr]

I've learned so much from you in such a short time. Thank you for that.

[@curmudgeon66]

Thanks for watching Larry

[@elfy60]

Brilliant! The shawl is utterly beautiful. Great work. Would love to try if I still had a loom - maybe I should get another. Thanks.

[@dianapruett9305]

And perfectly matched!

[@theresaryan4325]

Beautiful! I've been wanting to learn this. Thanks so much!

[@thisisfiller4657]

AMAZING VIDEO! Thank you for making this. You ought to teach a workshop- you're amazing!!

[@denaredford6701]

You do very lovely work .

[@woodswalker88]

Stunning!! Thank you for teaching this...I think I'd like to try it!

[@curmudgeon66]

Go for it, I would call it much more putzy than difficult. It can be slow to make, but is not really hard.

[@woodswalker88]

@@curmudgeon66 the disadvantage is that with doubleweave you can only do plainweave. For a drapey shawl I might want a different pattern. So I might try the non-doubleweave v-shawl instead.

[@curmudgeon66]

@@woodswalker88 not so! Double weave on a 4 safe loom only does plain weave, but double weave on an 8 shaft loom can do any 4 shaft pattern, for example 2x2 twill. I have a 12 shaft loom so clued do any 6 sraft pattern.

[@anniredale7207]

@@curmudgeon66 that's great for me with an 8 shaft table loom

[@dianapruett9305]

@@woodswalker88 if you have more than 4 shafts you can do something besides plain weave.

[@karendriscoll2890]

Andy- Thank you for sharing the step by step process. Great videos - I hope you don't mind I shared your link on the 4 shaft weaving facebook page. Your detailed step by step is very good.

[@curmudgeon66]

Karen, I do not mind that you shared a link to my weaving. Thanks for liking my video enough to want to share it.

[@karendriscoll2890]

Great Video's and very helpful information. Happy Weaving - Enjoy

[@Nancytoday]

You're the first man I've ever seen weave! I liked how you cut the looped ends straight across when you were warping the loom in video one. I was curious how you were going to make the joined angled end. Very interesting! Thanks.

[@curmudgeon66]

There is another man in the guild to which I belong. Traditionally in Europe, a few hundred yrs ago, when weaving was a profession, as opposed to an at home skill, it was often men who wove professionally. Thanks muchly for watching.

[@lorraine9309]

True. For a couple of hundred years, until just a decade ago. The workforce in the mill I worked in, in Yorkshire was predominantly men. (Until the Chinese undercut the market and the mill closed). But before the industrial revolution, mills and factories, many of the small stone cottages in the valley, traditionally had a room set aside for the weaver and his loom. Many of the early weavers who came to Yorkshire and Lancashire were of 'Flemish' origin, who, with their families, were escaping persecution in Europe. Weaving has interesting perspectives in many different countries. Well done you, for persevering and ensuring its survival. Love the videos.

[@curmudgeon66]

Thanks for your comment on men in weaving and the history of weaving.

[@anniredale7207]

@@curmudgeon66 I live in Northern Cumbria UK & regularly visit the Scottish Islands where it is the men who weave, predominantly, whilst the women knit

[@chefbourque]

Looks good guy. Your model is awesome looking. LOL! Take care my friend. I am cooking in Houston today and I had a break so I decided to catch up on my videos. Aieee!

[@curmudgeon66]

Thanks Chef! May all your Houston meals turn out fantastic.

[@Gertieanne]

I love watching your videos!

[@curmudgeon66]

thanx

[@jcortese3300]

Cleverest thing I've seen in a long time -- brilliant work! I was wondering how you were going to manage connecting the two sides, and when you explained how, I just sat here and smiled. :-)

[@lorraine9309]

There is something amusing about this construction, it kept me guessing too. Its a work of art .

[@curmudgeon66]

Thank you. :)

[@JDELGAD03]

Haha ms.headless..so funny made my day(: fantastic job 👍

[@kriskrumanaker4315]

That's awesome. Great job!

[@3003suzieq]

Loved it. Totally fascinating

[@pamelalandstrom1985]

Great video. How far did you weave before you started weaving the two layers together?

[@Ritercrazy]

Beautiful shawl.

[@sam41198]

Beautiful shawl

[@deblucero4685]

Just found your videos and so want to try this. I noticed though you did not have anything separating the warp/cloth as you wound it on. Does that affect your tension at all? I would love to get away from having to place a layer of paper while winding on.

[@sandraeasthope3010]

That is just awesome.

[@woodswalker88]

I watched the non-doubleweave video too. Which technique do you prefer...the double weave or the non-double? I'm about to try a shawl of some kind. haven't done any double weave yet.

[@curmudgeon66]

I prefer the double weave method.

[@tessa71465]

I just wanted to say thank you for showing up close what your doing on the loom! I am a subscriber and would be absolutely Honored if you put my name in the drawing for the tea towel! As for the color I love purple/wine so if I did win either one of these would be lovely! I have watched these 2 vid's on the double warp shawl 2x I have a double warp beam for my 28" mountain loom I bought it new~used in July 2013 ! I kind of get the idea of how doubel warp weaving works but getting it onto the loom is a whole new ball game! I also have a Union 36" rug loom, which I have in use and make great blue jean rugs! Also started working with wool boy is it soft on the feet! What ever advise you can give on the mouhtain loom would be greatly appreciated! I've been weaving since I was about 7 which is over 40 years , I love it and hope too keep going till I can make Tartan Plaids! Teresa from Ohio!,,,,

[@curmudgeon66]

If you have been weaving for over 40 years, then I should be taking lessons from you! I've only done one tartan, that was a set of dishtowels in 8/2 cotton that I made in my family's tartan. They looked great, but I must admit that I found counting the threads constantly in each color to be kind of a pain. As for double the warp for the double weave scarf. Just think while you are measuring and winding on that you need twice as many threads in the same width of loom. So for example, I made the shawls at 12 epi using Harrisville Designs Shetland weight wool. So I wound on enough yarn for 24 epi. Then when threading using four shafts, 2 of the shafts are for the top layer only and two of the shafts are for the bottom layer only. But if you have a jack style loom, when you weave the bottom layer, you must lift BOTH the shafts that control the TOP layer, as well as one of the bottom layer shafts. When weaving the top layer, you only need to lift one shaft at a time. And check often to be sure that you didn't some how get a thread wrong and lock the layers together. Hope this made sense. If you ever do a video of your weaving, I would love to see it. Purple Wine - OK.

[@tessa71465]

Dear Cur, thanks so much for writing back! As for the weaving for 40years that is the truth but on a very small scale from making a reed basket in girl scouts to making potholders , then bead weaving amulet bags on a small bead loom! I have loved weaving since I was 7! Now that I'm learning on the full size looms , it can be a bit overwhelming! Especially since most of what I've learned has come from books and trial and error! Your videos have been the most concise of the ones I've seen! Keep up the good work! Your newest fan, Teresa ~

[@elizabethglenn1842]

Hello Andy if you wanted to have fringe all the way around the shawl how would you do that? I'm very new to weaving.

[@kiwilassmanawatu6782]

magic, would love to try this. Do you wind your warp colours, and tie each new colour onto the last thread color. or are they all wound separate

[@johnlee6243]

I love this video!

[@mustaphatheweaver1941]

Thanks for these videos

[@Woolmouse]

beautiful! How wide in reed was this shawl?

[@jennypatriciasandovalorteg2042]

gracias, beatiful!!!, I¨m from Chile....you are magnífico!!!!

[@SwampDonkey2010]

I like your weaving videos. Down to earth and real. I was wondering if your idea for the shawl was from Kerstin Froberg's "Weave a V"? She has a great blog. I have been weaving for 3 years on a vertical countermarche I built myself as well as many weaving aids (most) I made myself as well. Have a good time weaving and making videos, I get a kick out of your style. :)

[@curmudgeon66]

The idea for the shawl came from the class that I took at www.sieversschool.com/ about 10 years ago. I was there for a one week intense class on double weave, one of the others in the class made such a shawl, and I was fascinated. To do double weave like this, you need at least a 4 harness loom. BTW, I think my next weaving video will also be double weave. Thanks for watching.

[@SwampDonkey2010]

curmudgeon66 Ah, yes. I don't know anything about the weaving school, but I see a few online. I to have done doubleweave as tubes and doublewide to unfold off the loom. I think the idea for your shawl is great. I also have two warp beams and have done pique, warp pile, and warp cord. All a little slow weaving, kind of like the speed of weaving overshot. I'm doing an afghan right now, so I enjoyed your section on fringe twisting. I have done it by hand on blankets in the past, but I have a new gadget to try here that is battery operated. I am doing an overshot piece as two panels next to join after, 40" on the loom. I could doubleweave it on 8 shafts, but most would tell you to do panels because each layer kind of slips past one another when winding the cloth on the beam, plus can't see the bottom for errors as easy. So I have West's book here "Finishing Touches" for some advice. Have a good time weaving. :)

[@LuvMyCardiKids]

When you are weaving the fold could you also hemstitch up the side as you go to help keep those side selvages in? Or would it be too difficult to do that on both layers at the same time?

[@curmudgeon66]

Good question . . . I don't know the answer, as I have never tried. It would probably be easy on the TOP layer, but I suspect that I would screw something up royally on the bottom layer if I tried that. Maybe if I do another of these some day I will give it a try. Although I don't have immediate plans to do anther shawl soon. Thanks for the idea. Thanks for the comment.

[@LuvMyCardiKids]

I plan to try your technique soon so maybe when I sample I’ll try doing something up the side of the triangle and report back on the difficulty.

[@torkko50]

How did you figure when to start the v from the separate pieces? I'm afraid that I will either run out o room or waste too much. Hope that makes sense!

[@curmudgeon66]

The first time I did one of these shawl, which I did not video for youtube, it was purely a guess, and I had some left over yarn that I ended up throwing away. For the one shown here, I based it on what I knew from the previous attempt. But as you can see in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n6LWlqahlqqBedU I do not always estimate correctly.

[@fytmanatee]

Can you also weave this so that the two layers are combined and it creates a thicker shawl?

[@curmudgeon66]

Yes . . . But !!! If you do that, then you wont be able to "unfold" it to get the "L" shape. I suppose, and this is pure conjecture, that one might, with enough shafts, design a pattern of four level weaving, that would put two double layers together, but I don't think I want to try that. I think if I wanted a thicker shawl, that I would just use the technique which I show, but use a thicker yarn, maybe something like a "Tuna" brand blanket weight wool. BTW - since I have no idea what part of the world you are in, I can not suggest a place for you to practice, but I think that if you were to investigate taking a weaving class, like the one I took at Vavstuga, or any of the other fine intro classes available all around the country, that this might be a way for you to get that practice and to try out different models of looms.

[@fytmanatee]

curmudgeon66 Four weaving levels would be quite the intricate process! I love the design of the "L" shape, it is so beautiful. I will definitely do some research in my area for a weaving class, thank you! Until I save up for a class, I think I might invest in a little table top rigid heddle to keep me artistically occupied. Thank you again!

[@curmudgeon66]

Britney Hansen A rigid heddle loom is a great place to start, even weaving "only tabby" there is still so much that you can do with color, for example log-cabin weave. I personally am a bit partial to the Ashford rigid heddle, but you may want to look at this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/en3Zn4OCpryBgdk for a few other ideas.

[@curmudgeon66]

curmudgeon66

[@curmudgeon66]

Britny. . . .One more thought . . . You MIGHT consider a small table loom as an alternative to a rigid heddle. I've got an Ashford table loom, and used it almost exclusively for about 7 or 8 years, I love it. Yes I now have a bigger loom because I wanted to weave bigger pieces with more complexity, but the Ashford table looms are really a dream to work with . . . so if you have the space and can afford the small difference in price between the rigid heddle and a small table loom, like the one that is shown in this kzbin.info/www/bejne/g4fNgHlqmMuWY7s , then I would recommend the table loom, just having 4 (or even 8) shafts, gives you a more then exponential choice of patterns and weaving options. That's my 2 cents worth.

[@brendaalley425]

What is the purpose of the tissue? At what stage in dressing the loom where these added?

[@curmudgeon66]

Just to help spread the threads out evenly at the very beginning

[@sandraeasthope3010]

I have a question how wide and how long did you make this shawl?

[@curmudgeon66]

Each half was about 20 inches wide, each half was about 32 inches from the start until I started cutting threads and making the join.

[@sandraeasthope3010]

@@curmudgeon66 thankyou so much. I have learned so much from you and Jane I am ready to give it a try. I have a 32" table loom so the treadling will be with the toggles so I have to figure that out but I am sure I can. Did you use a 10 dent reed?

[@kateweb295]

How long did it take to do the weaving ?

[@curmudgeon66]

I do not time myself. I only weave when the mood hits me, so I am slow. when you get to the part where it requires cutting individual threads, you can do better than cut your time in half if you have your assistant sit behind the loom and cut each thead when you ask them to rather than getting up and walking around the loom for each one.

[@ritamclaughlin9681]

wow! thanks so much!

[@ricardosantos-dd7we]

como você juntou as duas mantas?

[@curmudgeon66]

+ricardo santos Sorry - I don't know what language you are using, but it aint the one that I speak and read

[@anamariaovandojaramillo3964]

+curmudgeon66 that is Portuguese from Brasil...and I think was asking how did you put together those two pieces.... He might miss the first video

[@leahglasco5846]

This seems a little overly complicated to me. Why double weave? Why not make your warp twice as long as you need the final product to be, do a regular weave until you reach the point you want the warps to cross, cut the first part free, then retie your warp and use the warp from the first part as weft for the beginning of the second part. then just keep weaving until the length on both ends match. I guess it's not a bad idea to learn how to warp and weave a double weave like this, always good to broaden your skills, and it ensured that both ends are truly the same length under the same tension, but this still just seems more complicated than it has to be for the final result when a much simpler method could be used.

[@woodswalker88]

He does another video where he uses this technique. I'm not sure which is more complicated. I think measuring the proper amount of warp for the second technique would be the trickiest part.

[@ricardosantos-dd7we]

wie Sie die Abdeckungen beitreten

[@curmudgeon66]

+ricardo santos Use warp from top as weft for bottom and visa-versa, as explained in video

[@ricardosantos-dd7we]

+curmudgeon66 hum. danke