"V"-Shawl NOT Double Weave

[@barbaramewburn2475]

Thanks for showing your first attempt at a single weave v shawl. What a terrific wrap. I hope that your sister in law really likes it & appreciates the work gone into it. It's great that your showed what wasn't quite right & how it could be improved. I always feel that it's important to show our mistakes when tutoring & more importantly, how to adapt & learn from them.

[@gregjohnson5194]

I'm amazed and give you so much respect for weaving as you do, I was shocked when I watch you set that loom up in the house. I could tell you have a great love for weaving and you love doing things with your hands. Like you I'm retired and took up sewing with a vintage machines it started with fixing the machines. And lead to using the machines. Now after 13 pairs of pants, 1 pair of shorts, 7 dress shirts and 4 pull over shirts I'm now the family resident expert on all things sewing. As I'm sure you are when it come to weaving. Great job on the shawl, sounds funny but I would love to wear that myself, excellent workmanship is something to show off and to be proud of, I wouldn't care if it was made for a women. I don't do dresses though 😀.

[@alexcurbelo3544]

Very cool. Thanks for posting that video. I want to make a shawl for my mom, but I'm a beginner and have lots to learn. I'm using a frame loom, one that would be used for making wall hangings and I'm making a plaid scarf - which is my second weaving project ever - and using that kind of loom with yarn warp was a big mistake. There is no take-up or supply spools; I pretty much have to loosen up some butterfly nuts and spin the makeshift spools and tighten the nuts to keep them from spinning under tension. The other issue is that the heddle is a stick with alternating depth grooves designed to create a very shallow shed for the shuttle, which with yarn warp, it doesn't work because the yarn warps are so close to each other that they grab each other. I ended up using the heddle stick as a separator and I created a long needle from a cut-up coat hanger with a rounded tip on one end and a loop in the other. The weaving is done by hand and eyeball which is extremely tedious and slow. I've ended up buying an Ashford harp tabletop loom for my next project. I would like to dive into making a shawl for my mom, but talking about diving into the deep end of the pool. Yikes!

[@twophatchix2513]

Despite what you're pointing out as shortcomings, it's a gorgeous shawl, Andy! It'll be toasty and snuggly and I'm sure your SIL is most appreciative. Thanks, from one Wisconsinite to another, for your tutorials!

[@curmudgeon66]

Thanks for your kind comment TPC. Yeah, come winter she will use this alot, I am sure, Wisconsin does occasionally get chilly in January.

[@rmonogue]

The shawl is lovely! You could put a cross in the long warp threads on the first panel before you cut them off of the loom. Do that by raising one plain weave shed and inserting a cord, then do the same on the opposite plain weave shed. That gives you a threading cross, and should make picking out the right threads to weave for the join much easier. I would not have considered that problem until seeing your video, so thank you for making it. As for the join, perhaps adding a piece of monofilament in the last dent or two at the right edge (only for the join section) would help prevent the draw-in there. You would pull the monofilament out after weaving, so the border threads could shift back into that space. I'm not sure if that would work, but it's a thought. Thanks again for your videos!

[@curmudgeon66]

Thanks Robin, those are both great ideas. As I said this was an experiment to use this method, and I will probably do it again, hopefully learning from my mistakes. But I will keep your ideas in mind, I like them.

[@barbararickman8543]

I like the idea of putting in a weaving cross and now I understand the reason for the "slippery yarn" or monofilament of some type.

[@plutoisaplanet19]

A cross would be great. My first thought was to tape the warp together before cutting them off so you could pick the threads up and the woven part wouldn't be so wiggly.

[@AlagaiBanty]

This is gorgeous and the colors amazing. Having mixed kinds of fringe isn't a problem. The joined seam on the back is the kind of thing that's very noticeable to the weaver who made the project, but others are looking at the colors and the pattern and never see that.

[@curmudgeon66]

Thank you so much for glossing over what I see, and putting emphasis on the colors, which are what I hope my sister-in-law sees. I know she likes the shawl, as she has said so a couple of times in the few weeks she's had it. And thanks again for your kind comment on my video.

[@cliffp.8396]

Fascinating technique and a beautiful piece of work.

[@hostaaclab]

Thank you, it i nice too see another way BUT too much work for me I will stick to the double weave method. As always, a joy watching and learning your techniques. One thing I do with double weave is I place a cord where the fold would be then when II remove from the loom, I remove the chord and the fold disappears after wet finishing. Thank you again

[@ihrigasylum7992]

I have watched this video 3 times. Love your work.

[@rozr.5720]

i have really enjoyed you as you teach the process you follow. the shawl is beautiful. Thank You !!!!

[@51mermaidclaira]

I really like it! Especially your colors and the front has a band which I like. Watching the video helped me before I weave one. I think this would be an easy way to make an L-shape shawl without weaving double weave for my 1st one. What a great gift!

[@curmudgeon66]

Thanks - I've got another shawl on that loom right now, same technique, so I am not doing another video this time. Glad you like it.

[@51mermaidclaira]

Can't wait to see it! I'm working on getting my Gilmore 8-harness set up to weave one. You really inspired me to get started!

[@sylvanwoods5271]

Thanks so much for this video. It's a beautiful shawl!

[@dorotheaberger3276]

Thank you for showing your first attempt to weave a V-shawl. After watching your video I really feel I can do that, too! I love the color choice of your shawl!

[@Cellottia]

It's a lovely shawl; I especially like the colours. The knotted fringe is just fine, too. Thanks for sharing :-) K

[@movourneen]

I didn't notice the issue you remarked on until you did - the red join side. I think it turned out very well especially since it was your first time trying this method. Thanks for the video, it is helpful as a reference. Great job.

[@rozr.5720]

I love the way you double. Seems more logical andcthey pattern is beautiful when you are done.. I like not cutting of separating

[@bonniec7166]

The shawl is beautiful. I’m a knitter and spinner, but haven’t taken up weaving. That may be next. I am enjoying your videos.

[@curmudgeon66]

Thanks

[@pamyclark1263]

Charming! Beautiful color choice. Anyone would be proud to have you make it for them, knowing that every pass of the shuttle, you were thinking of them🍀❤️

[@nancydrummond2941]

Excellent! I have been a bit hesitant to try a shawl, but this makes it look doable for me. Thank you for taking the time to do these videos - so helpful for us "visual" learners

[@pamelawineinger3337]

Love watching your video's! That shawl turned out so beautiful! I found your video's when I did a search for tartan patterns. I have taught myself to crochet, knit and now I started teaching myself to weave. I started with a simple square frame just to see if I liked weaving. Well I really like very challenging and unique projects so the square frame was a little to simple for me. I couldn't afford a rigid heddle loom so after looking at several photos I decided I could build my own loom. I just finished it heddle and all. I only spent $40.00 dollars and it is a 32" loom. I am making a scarf for my first project on it. Anyway thank you for sharing your talent it is very inspiring.

[@curmudgeon66]

And thinking about Tartan, that's what the next project is. I'm still warping the loom now, so don't look for the video for another couple of weeks, but yes, that is next. Thanks for watching and for your kind comments.

[@pamweneinger3787]

pamela wineinger I can't wait to see that video!

[@marielindqvist9177]

I have just completed my first V-shaped shawl through this method and I'm hooked. Thanks for making this video. What I did with my shawl, since you pointed out that you had problems picking the right thread when combining the two parts, I chose two colours, pink and grey and did a houndstooth variation pattern having 4 threads stipes except for a larger border at the sides. This made it very easy to see which thread to pick up. I did get a more dense stripe where the two parts meet and I need to work on that in my second one. Thanks again for the video.

[@curmudgeon66]

Fantastic! Glad my video could be of small assistance to you. Pink & Gray are a good combination, I made a scarf for a co-worker in those colors a few years ago and she loves it. This is a good method, but I think I prefer the double weave method, that having been said, it really is each weaver's choice of how to do it, and I'm glad I know both methods.

[@marielindqvist9177]

I'm going to try the double weave version as well.

[@singe0diabolique]

I like the look of the shorter fringe. They're kind of cute.

[@ellensantana7854]

you are so patient. that is a really beautiful shawl, the colors are gorgeous.

[@frandaig]

You are such an inspiration. You show us what can be done. Thank you for all of your videos

[@lorrainelawrence7035]

Oh this is such a great video! Thank you for sharing all the steps. You make it look so easy.

[@lesmessbucilova2732]

It's beautiful!! I love it. Now you have me thinking of how I could do this on my rigid heddle. Thank you for this fantastic video.

[@barbararickman8543]

Yes you can! It would not be so hard at all. I plan on trying. Have a 32 inch Kromski that would do this quite easily I think.

[@lesmessbucilova2732]

I have the same loom and size. That is so neat! Thanks Barbara

[@jeffbowes6542]

I’m working on a rigid heddle loom right now! We will see how it turns out

[@gfodale]

Greetings! It's been awhile since I've commented. First, really nice design and I appreciate the new method you've brought to our attention. I don't think we'll, or at least I, will ever get tired of watching whatever you weave, as I often get some detail which is helpful. There are two things I would like to point out. First, when you were weaving the previous warp as weft to make the join, you did not slack the weft as you usually do. Usually when you're weaving, you stick your finger in the middle of the warps to create an arc, or vee, in the weft before beating. You did not do that in the join as best I can tell from the video. I'm guessing it was in response to not having enough fringe and you were trying to get as much as possible, but that is what I think threw off your tension. Second, since you were working with wool, you may have been able to do a twist on the short fringe, then lightly felted it. Not something I've tried, but read about and think it would help if something similar in the future pops up. Just a thought anyway.... Thanks again. Much appreciated.

[@3003suzieq]

Thank you for sharing this technique. I have tried the DW way with not the best of success as the changing tension left me with a ugly wavy center back line. I only have a RH loom at this time which could be part of my my problem. Cut I think with this method I might give it another go.

[@brendahoeser5512]

This is still absolutely beautiful🎈🎈🎂 I’m sure sister in law loved it.

[@denaredford6701]

Very nice , the colors are beautiful . When I first viewed it on red mannequin , I thought that red was part of the weave . It appeared to have a border of burgundy . Looked pretty .

[@barbararickman8543]

Came back to look at this idea again. Just looking for inspirations and this was one. I am still back at the rigid heddle as I am too busy with repairing vestments from church to plan a warp and get the counterbalance up right now. Not broken, just too many projects going at once. A baby blanket is on the rigid heddle right now and have two pairs of socks to knit plus the vestments! Winter is here early and I still have winter veggies in the garden. I am thinking I may give this method a whirl after all. Read my initial comment and I think I may have thought of a way to solve the puckering issue at the area where you join the two pieces of weaving. Will let you know what happens when I do my experiment. Will do it on some scrap materials in my stash.

[@gillianbc]

The finished shawl is really lovely. I don't think anyone else would notice the join and the tassel fringe at the back looks just fine to me.

[@curmudgeon66]

thanks

[@lutjeingonike9391]

Andy, my compliments!!! very clear instructions and also very clear in the advatages and disadvantages of as well the double and the single method. Love your video s and your help♡ Janneke from the Netherlands

[@curmudgeon66]

Thanks for your kind comments Janneke.

[@aurore-marievarrin6128]

Magnifique, très belle maîtrise du métier. Un grand MERCI

[@leneprior1044]

Love it and your honesty about project!

[@FiberLoveDiary]

I love this and I can't wait to try it myself. I've done the V weave technique with a hero cowl but this is a little different for the rest. I guess I better buy yarn 😂

[@lorinelson1712]

Thank you for demonstrating this! Lovely outcome!

[@buynsell365]

Great Job !!! Looks perfect to me. Keep up the great work. Would love to see more videos like this.

[@elfy60]

Your videos are great. This looks to me (a novice weaver) like an excellent first effort at a new technique and it turned out beautifully. I don't know if I have the patience for trying this, though Robin's suggestion of a counting cross would probably make it a bit easier. Think I'll try it on a small (scarf sized) scale. Thanks curmudgeon66.

[@Booger500us]

Just amazing this stuff...you are so talented Andy!..that is a lot of work..impressed

[@curmudgeon66]

Thanks Diane, I do enjoy creating things like this.

[@deborahthomas-wilton]

I think the end result looks very nice. I'm sure your SIL will love it. As I watched all I could think was "I could do this one" . I just started weaving and am a bit daunted at times. On the join issue , do you think allowing more weft would have helped reduce the tension on the join? That may not be expressed properly as I'm still learning basics. Thanks for your willingness to share projects it is inspiring to me.

[@carphila]

Thank you for doing and showing this! I have a lot to learn and try! Thanks!

[@RICDirector]

I love seeing you play! You might pin or tape the first piece in the position you will need, up to the castle? Your work is awesome, and watching you play is better for learning than just watching someone do what they always do, if you know what I mean. It may be a pain in the tailfeathers, but you can always add fringe. :) And...speaking as a woman who wears these...thank GOD the fringe on the back wasn't longer! It's going to be much easier to wear while sitting in a chair, for instance. It looks incredibly nice--now I'm going to go watch the double weave parts, if I can figure out the whole double weave thing. :) Thank you so much!

[@curmudgeon66]

Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment.

[@terrysharing]

OMG Andy, that is a work of art! I would hang that on my wall as a great masterpiece. As always, I can't figure out how you did that but I sure am happy to see the end result! Very Nice!

[@curmudgeon66]

Thanks Terry. Yeah I was pretty happy with it. I learned a bunch, and have some ideas for improvements next time, but for the first time with a new technique, well . . . I thought it turned out pretty good. Sister in Law is happy with her 3 month late birthday present.

[@sueannesullivan3827]

This is so cool! I want to try it for sure. I don’t care for the dark line that seems almost unavoidable with doubleweave.

[@kriskrumanaker4315]

Hi Curmudgeon66. I'm a weaver (but not currently), and I've done double weave. I have to say, while you always do beautiful work, don't you think the double weave solution to the L shaped shawl is easier, and by all accounts a much more elegant solution to the problem? But kudos for your intreped spirit to learn new things in weaving!

[@curmudgeon66]

I've done 4 shawls using the double weave method, and I did this one using this method. I have my Ashford table loom loaded and have started working on doing one more this way. Right now I think its about six of one and half a dozen of the other as to which way works best for me, but I could change my mind. each has advantages and disadvantages. I'm certainly more comfortable with the double weave method, cuz I've done it more.

[@barbararickman8543]

I am back to using my rigid heddle loom. My floor loom is down again. The tension brake is not working and is in pieces on the floor right now. This is very interesting. Have a wonderful Easter week! This would work on a wide rigid heddle (32 inches). For you, as you understand how to weave double weave and have the loom to do it with, you should, in my view, stick with double weave for this type of shawl. To keep the ends being woven back in from puckering and looking strange, arrange the 1st piece of fabric in such a way as to keep the selvage straight and even. That's just what I see. I think your recipient will LOVE it. I know I would! bjr

[@curmudgeon66]

And a wonderful Easter season to you as well Barbara. I hope Mr Putney is feeling better soon.

[@barbararickman8543]

Unless I find the orginal brake system for this loom, I think he may just be gone after all.

[@johnwald7759]

I always enjoy your videos. I have a 4 harness LeClerc Mira and have restored it. All I have left to replace is the Reed. A question if you please. If you could only have one dent size for the reed what would you choose? Thanks and please keep the videos coming. John

[@curmudgeon66]

If I could only have one? Mmmmm difficult question. I think I would probably go for 12 dents per inch, but 10 per inch would be a very close second choice, and it all might change depending on what weight thread I wanted to weave with the most. But for me, probably 12.

[@karenrickert9430]

Thank you for sharing, I'm just learning and this helps loads!

[@ellenblack5376]

Beautiful!!! and love colors too.

[@norweavernh]

Nice job. I've always threatened to try one of these but feel better about doing so after your demo. In terms of the difference in size of the red stripes, I think you have to be VERY conscious about your warp tension and beat strength on this shawl.

[@curmudgeon66]

Thanks for you kind thoughts. Some other comments have suggested ways in which I might improve the join, I'm going to be even more careful next time.

[@sabeldonguez3654]

that look so amazing. im looking an idea about romanian weaving and i saw you video.

[@mjdrean]

I love it and I think i'll give it a try on my RH loom. Another great, inspiring video. Thanks.

[@curmudgeon66]

Now that I have learned that it can be done on two shafts, I realize that you could do this on an RH loom, if it is wide enough for what ever you want to make. Isn't weaving such an amazing thing.

[@mjdrean]

Yes! I'm new but already addicted. Thanks again for your giving your time and expertise to everyone.

[@barbararickman8543]

YES! I can be done on a rigid heddle loom as it is a two shaft loom. I saw that instantly. Maybe I was meant to use that loom alone. It just has to be wider than 16 inches. 32 inches wide would be ideal.

[@mjdrean]

Ah be careful what you say. I thought that until I bought a table loom. I love it too and am learning to expand my horizons but I still use my RH the most.

[@barbararickman8543]

My floor loom is down for....the "who knows how may times" and I am back and may stay with my RH loom and ditch the floor loom. It just won't work and replacing it is not in my budget.

[@moviebuffbabe5651]

Having seen both versions you've done I think the final outcome looks better done in doubleweave like you've been doing it.

[@lizkimber]

So. The question is. When you need to make the next V shape shawl. Which way would you pick? This or double weave?

[@tessearle4828]

Great video Andy

[@curmudgeon66]

Thanks Tess

[@janicehuff2217]

Actually this was great! wow I would never have figured it out.

[@lindaphillips5807]

Would you mind giving me the measurements of the length including fring. Plus the width. Thank you

[@LynneUSA]

Love it and a great video -- quick question, you always seem to poke in the middle of the weaving before you beat, Why?

[@woodswalker88]

how about if you had some kind of lease stick or long rope to maintain the cross when you took off the first piece. Then it would be easier to find the correct thread order to weave the ends in?

[@yuliyazaytseva2076]

Very beatiful!

[@dianathefiberfan]

Great video and the shawl turned out great. What are the lines/marks on your shuttle?

[@curmudgeon66]

There are none. I have no marks or lines on my shuttle.

[@dianathefiberfan]

If you go to minute marker 17:33 you use a shuttle to help put the loose threads through the weft.

[@curmudgeon66]

@@dianathefiberfan oh, you mean the stick shuttle. There are no lines on my BOAT shuttles. On the stick shuttle they are one inch marks so I can use it as a ruler.

[@sabrinajensen4013]

I suppose if you wanted to do a more elaborate weave pattern (like a Bird's Eye Diamond) then this would be a good way to do the shawl.

[@amaliatabares6693]

fantastic congratulacion

[@peggyisme]

I would adopt it! :D

[@woodswalker88]

Is one side of this supposed to be way longer than the other? I am trying to weave this shawl, per your instructions and an article by Karin Worling. (handwoven, I think). Searched high & low for the dimensions of the 2 sections. finally found these: "panel 1, 42 inches. Panel 2, 69 inches". I must have read these wrong, cause I wove the first one as 69 & cut it off. Well? 69 inches is waaaay too long, plus there will be an extra 22 inches when I weave the second panel in. The second panel will be 42 plus the triangular part. I can't figure out what I did wrong, unless this shawl is SUPPOSED to be ASYMMETRICAL. I get a feeling I am going to be cutting off about 20 inches when this is done. :(

[@curmudgeon66]

I suppose there could be a difference of an inch or so between one "front panel" and the other, but I would not expect more that that. Obviously using this method, you will leave a longer set of "warp tails" on the first front panel and then use those as weft for the other panel when "joining". So in that sense maybe the 2nd panel is longer, but the last "X" inches of the 2nd panel is made up of weft that was warp from the first panel. This is hard to say in typed words. ;(

[@amysceri3591]

Next time use painters tape across the woven edge of both pieces to keep the weave straight and easier to find the next string to weave.

[@kimsharpzook461]

Looks great

[@Jory820]

Hi, curmudgeon66! I am a new weaver, and have a question about how you keep track of the treadling: I see your clipboard and I think I need similar assistance. Do you print out the lift plan and follow that? Any advice you have for a newbie, I'd be grateful to have!

[@LindaDeeTee]

FWIW, I bought the iWeaveIt app for my Android tablet and paid for the extra treadling/threading tracking module. I am doing my first project with a complicated treadling pattern and the tracking is fantastic! Keeps me on track instead of going, "now which one did I just weave?"

[@RobertJohnson-je6tx]

My vote is for double weaver.

[@powderriverfarrier]

Pretty cool dude.

[@rosemaryhopkins164]

just love this shawl my hubby has just started to weave and he has a rigid heddle loom would it be possible to make this shawl on this type of loom?

[@curmudgeon66]

I suppose it COULD be done on a rigid heddle, but I don't think I would recommend it. After having done this one, I personally prefer using the "double weave" method for doing these shawls, and that can not be done on a rigid heddle. I don't do rigid heddle, but wonder how you would cut a piece off, and re-tie the warp when using the first part as weft. You can give it a try. I'd be curious to know if it works on a rigid heddle loom.

[@rosemaryhopkins164]

Thank you so much for sharing your beautiful projects and for sharing your knowledge

[@woodswalker88]

I'm about to attempt this but my warping board only goes to about 4 yds. So I'm thinking just make a separate warp for each panel. There will be more loom waste but what the hey.

[@curmudgeon66]

I'm warping my loom now for another double weave, "V" shawl, 2-1/2 yds of warp. Yes a bit more loom waste, but if you are careful, you should be able to keep it to a minimum. Good luck with it, and enjoy your weaving.

[@Woolmouse]

Great video thank you!

[@annettw2794]

Amazing!!! Thank you for sharing :-)

[@virginiapozo7385]

Maravilloso

[@olevestergaard6971]

Amazing❤️❤️

[@tjorg75]

So cool

[@rorikui63]

its wonderfull

[@amysceri3591]

Looser is better because the fibers will bloom and come together when washed.

[@AHMAD-ig3cz]

ممتاز good