Doublelift Reacts to 100T Selling their LCS Spot, DSG Joining LTA & LTA Format News

[@barto7490]

"Uh oh. Dont bring your wallet" 💀💀

[@Gannoth]

@@TheGhoulKhz Yeah it's safe compared to Rio, Sao Paulo makes Bronx feel like a safe place to live in. Kyoto is safe. Singapore is safe. Reykjavik is safe. Oslo is safe. You Brazilians need to travel more if you think any of the your cities are safe by international standard when you still have to travel 5 mins down the road via Uber.

[@xlucyfer]

​@@TheGhoulKhzdidn't midbeast get mugged in sao paulo?

[@zweiigorgon8980]

@@xlucyfer😂😂😂

[@eclipsed5783]

As a brazilian, this is facts. My family lives in Sao Paulo and they can't even carry their phones around anymore

[@nickmajora]

This new format is confusing af but whatever I'll just watch the games and learn as I go. I _hope_ the 2nd slot stays provisional because 2 teams promoting up and down from academy each year is _way_ more hype than 1.

[@BigDoinksForMe]

Unlikely while FLY exists

[@Danny01474]

Also lights a fire under teams to actually perform instead of just sitting on their asses.

[@kyledude2863]

LCK's take on the 3 split system is superior compared to EMEA and definitely LTA

[@zakrs130]

I said this on someone's video (I think Dom's) about the format change for LEC. They are making these things way too complex, and there are changes every year. I don't know what traditional sport goes through so many changes (or if other competitive titles go through so many changes), but as a casual viewer for LEC (I mainly watch International events seriously and only a few games from regional splits), these are excessive. I like the cross region rivalry (I'm from EU but I'm kind of jealous that they are creating this rivalry, it's nice), and I think that's perfectly fine. But the losers pick first, next week the winners pick, the fact that you are picking yourselves so I don't even know in advance who is playing who, it being based off of split 2's standings, the fact that they said tiebreaks are decided (what tiebreaks if everyone is 1-1? I'm confused) based on head to head in split 2 or something? It's really complicated and I can guarantee you there will be a buttload more changes again the following year. This is not friendly for the casual.

[@LegendJoe3063]

They are Changing format every year bc league esports is dying especially in WEST.😂😂😂😂 in 2 more year league will completely die in west.

[@riqui7835]

its a hail marry for riot. Games been dropping in popularity so badly and they need to make BIG changes. And honestly im all for it, LCS was never going to develop into a good product that could compete globally. Still probably wont compete with eastern teams but at least our own region will be more fun.

[@KinzuNight]

They should have just stuck with LCS becauseit was the most popular brand. The NBA didn't change the name when the ABA merged.

[@unkown5528]

the LCS been on decline for like last decade, so from a business stand point it makes sense

[@CasualLeague]

This Is the way to bring everything up. LLA sucked, LCS was dying and CB has a lot of fans but isnt sustainable, this league cuts overall cost and gives both conferences a steady fan base, that going down would not affect much and still with the possibility of growt. This simplifyes and cuts spots/costs for worlds too (3 LCS, 1 LLA and 1 CB, before, now, even if they send 4, Its still 1 less), and for the new events (just 1 overall for the new event, 2, one from both conferences for msi), willdcard are dead with this and emea.

[@jamesh885]

@@unkown5528 last decade? 2014 - 2018 was nearly peak league wtf

[@unkown5528]

@@jamesh885 i mean from them times, we in 2025 man - peak lcs was tsm in my eyes at least

[@jamesh885]

@@unkown5528 what?

[@eugenechin2863]

Ahh i get it, play ins happen during regular season. They get rid of a couple of wild card regions before the international tournaments.

[@Oleoay]

I wonder if they’ll offer NA broadcasts in Spanish and SA broadcasts in English

[@V1CEAO]

I hope so

[@nickmajora]

And Portuguese.

[@MagiRemmie]

I don't see why they wouldn't since the goal is to unify the Americas and a Spanish team is competing in the North.

[@mrmoosetachio]

​@@nickmajora well. Brazilian isn't Portuguese. It's Brazilian. A weird mix of Portuguese and Spanish. Iirc anyway

[@bl4ckfi5h]

​@@mrmoosetachioNo. Their variation of the language is in fact known as "Brazilian Portuguese", but Portuguese is the official national language, not "Brazilian" lmao

[@Aetolus]

Should have just kept the LCS and LLA name then have LTA as the umbrella like how PCS was operated. But I guess Riot don't want fans to lose it after realizing it's just a roundabout way to have NA play wildcard regions to qualify for Worlds.

[@BigDoinksForMe]

Nah that aspect to it is easy to understand. They just don't want to publicly acknowledge that they killed it. Not yet, at least. Only hope is that this change comes with production changes. Emily has been the only useful human being in the studio for like 3 years.

[@ieatfoodandstuff]

it actually isnt this. NA is losing 1 spot at worlds because south conference (cblol) 1st seed is guaranteed a spot at a worlds which only leaves 2 spots for the north conference (NA). So this might bring new fans to watch north conference (NA) games but competitively its 100% a negative for NA

[@zapsdiputs]

I honestly hope the best for toast

[@zapsdiputs]

And for Charlie, good point.

[@BigDoinksForMe]

abbedage xD xD xD

[@12mulesandy]

​@@zapsdiputshe has moist eSports? That's not in lcs no?

[@HienLeGia]

100 Thieves going the nadeshot route of bury your business ❤

[@CaiRobinson]

its more 100 Thieves being smart and getting out, theres little incentive to stay in. There definitely taking their money and probably to either spend it in cheaper esports cause Lol is way over priced. or into other ventures. I mean even Riot is cutting back with this.

[@MrWizardjr9]

@@CaiRobinson idk if you are not going to invest in a top esport like lol you might as well get out of esports all together. sure theres less to lose in a cheaper esport but the % chance of making money would be pretty much 0

[@tysonwelter8803]

@@MrWizardjr9 players is why... to buy ut contracts and get players to switch you'd overpay like crazy they don't think they can do that and win. that simple.

[@CSRT123]

@@tysonwelter8803 yeah. there just isn't enough talent in NA to build a promising team around. they have to pay insane amounts to pick up the better western players and mediocre korean players only to fail at worlds.

[@wispyg1812]

@@MrWizardjr9not true at all, in fact 100T LCS is their least popular team probably so

[@DoubleMeatpalace]

It seems pretty obvious they're trying a lot of different styles to see what works out the best. While hard to follow upfront, it seems pretty interesting and is better than having the same old boring 10 teams, 6 make playoffs type of thing.

[@TedBeech-q3c]

Nadeshot basically saying NA LoL is dead, or gonna be. ouch.

[@Zaycer]

Icl, I’m not a fan of this LTA shit. Losing international spots because we glued 2 leagues together that aren’t even competing against each other unless it’s to find out who gets the spot, Bo1 Double round robin again so there will barely be any games on compared to the LCK, LPL and LEC. My favorite team which is 100T is out the door. This shit is just ass imo lmao

[@GriffinHQ]

sad.... the main reason i got into watching other esports was cause of 100t, now i prob will only keep in touch with league and maybe valorant finals

[@WvlfeTV]

That's because TSM is joining a different region.

[@MrCoolstar224]

I personally do not like this multi split random bs thing. Seems like its too much to keep up and keep in check with fans

[@HienLeGia]

Surely you finished reading in 3rd grade, surely.

[@tonyhart2744]

wdym we have this in valorant, surely this would be great

[@ddddirge]

​@@HienLeGia I think what he meant is why every Split have different formats 😅😅😅

[@MagiRemmie]

@@ddddirge Because they are for different things. The first split is for a new tournament. The final split is for worlds so the final split is more similar to worlds format.

[@MrCoolstar224]

@@tonyhart2744 idgaf about valorant, that shit is horrible

[@johncenaa4479]

Im hyped for fearless draft

[@BigDoinksForMe]

by far the most bizarre aspect to any of this. by far. the fact RG actually made fearless and official pro setting is too unreal - but kudos to those with brains who want that

[@iamshofiulazam]

is korea still 2 years behind na?

[@Jones-ke6bt]

Yeah

[@Guuu32]

Good old league tampionship aeries

[@arthriticpterodactyl]

IDK if anybody has pointed it out, but the LTA icon is actually the North and South conference's symbols combined, which imho is actually fucking ACTUALLY INSANELY COOL. And tbh building rivalry but also fellowship with out southern neighbors is really exciting.

[@L6Jeremy]

Combining North and South America is a great idea. It worked really well in Valorant.

[@VampsTheFallen]

What ever happaned to tsm coming back to league lol. im guessing reggie still trying to go korean

[@DOOMSTEPMUSIC]

I must be the only one who thinks that this is sick asf!!! Every split has its own feel

[@BillyWinchester]

As a LCS fan I’m willing to give this a chance I’ve always thought the South American teams deserved a bigger spot happy to see it

[@birdie757]

Also , that form of region locking only benefits paid players . They will just move the player from korea to usa.

[@jeanmarco5281]

only positive item in that whole mess is the potential of promotion and relegation and I believe it should be 2 teams fighting for their lives... idk what the financial impact is going to be to teams relegated/promoted, because promoted teams are forced to adopt franchising and relegated teams lose their franchise format and not even sure if they can drop and become an open qualifier team? is there an update on what happens to Academy / Challenger series? is Tier 2 still partner teams or are they are now all considered open qualifiers?

[@CasualLeague]

I liked 100T cuz nadeshot, but that brand is full content now, weird,still they won a split, something that a lot of legacy and new teams couldnt. If this shit show works, that spot will be interesting for a lot of brands, if not, as some said, could be a permanent guest and rotate.

[@dman7441]

Always felt like teams should have home “stadiums” where locals can support and watch their team on a week to week basis. Would be cool to have teams travel so teams have home field advantage (no travel and home crowd extra prep time due to no travel) but that might be more of an ask. Professional sports have loyal fans because the team is their local identity. League doesn’t have this.

[@rodrigosanay4351]

Since the LTA is combining basically 3 regions, I feel like they should open at least a 4th seed for worlds, but ideally 5. 3 whole regions and just 3 seeds??? Bro, come on, the competition will be fiercer, sure, but it's just too restrictive.

[@rice_frying_shrimp]

I'm gonna be laughing so much when literally nothing changes about TL (or whichever other team APA chooses to play for in the future, assuming he even stays in the LTA which I kind of doubt given his pedigree and the fact that plenty of LEC teams would go from borderline CL teams to instant playoff contenders with his talent and work ethic around but that's another glazing event for another day) and FlyQuest being the only two viable teams from the region and everyone else basically eating dirt.

[@dylanzelkin8506]

I just think splits are the problem, if they did smaller tournaments less frequently I think they would see a lot more success

[@yellybeam2869]

I saw the LEC format change video first and then I saw this. They are not even comparable. It's like swapping from a Ferrari to a freaking Prius! This was the most bland video from LoL I have EVER seen...

[@MagiRemmie]

I for one would take the prius every day of the week.

[@BigDoinksForMe]

They are going to market it as well as they can - and hope the new seasons of the game and arcane can save it.

[@budd1331]

Consolidated them because viewership is so low and level of competition is so bad. I only watch the finals to see who goes to worlds. I watch worlds because its great game play.

[@facts3221]

Honestly franchising ruined LoL esports. It improves the floor conditions but ruins the ceiling. It’s almost like a communist trait. All I want to see is multiple tiers, with teams competing to climb. This makes competition better, future proof and creates lasting fanbases for the teams that have real merit, yes it’s risky for teams that do not perform but even with franchising we see teams come and go.

[@facts3221]

I also think that RIOT should do a better job of protecting players from contract terms that reduce competition. Which basically bullied top performers like Rekkles out of the LEC (among others).

[@lostboyztv351]

Blame Regi and TSM for pitching franchising.

[@rice_frying_shrimp]

franchising is literally a core component of capitalism but go off I guess

[@heehee4341]

but imagine still having bo1s in your format in 2025

[@Tht1guy63]

Best of ones are horrible. If it were 3 and then 6 id be happy. Lck gets more actual competetive play time than NA which can be partly why they roll lcs.

[@noammeitzar5873]

Why they have only 2 seeds for worlds?

[@MagiRemmie]

It's three seeds.

[@minwookim3316]

This is going to lower the standard even more...

[@shaunhorton8976]

Competition in business makes all business get better to stay alive.

[@MohammadKhan-ne4zm]

Best of 1s double round robin in split 2 is so trash.

[@BigDoinksForMe]

Eh. If anything it shows how out of touch eSports div is with fans. They genuinely seem to view their viewers as hamsters who get excited by minor distractions.

[@colinree6131]

Ehhh single round robin bo3 sucks too tho

[@judgedbytime]

"LCS is thriving"

[@dougalbee1125]

The new led this year sucked. Like every other week it was a finals or new playoffs. Sucked as bad as their region did this year internationally

[@LegendJoe3063]

2012 for WESTERN LEAGUE OF LEGEND ESPORTS HAS BEGAN😂😂😂 goodbye in 2 more years 2025 isnt going to be any special neither 2026 LPL and Lck will be as usual contesting for the trophies while LEC and LCS will be in AIRPORT😂😂😂 Hopeless

[@Huhhh818]

3 splits is too confusing. As a traditional sports fan league needs to go back to modeling seasons or splits like traditional sports to make it easy for casual fans to jump back into the action.

[@danielmartinez4106]

They gotta pay for that Cod team 😂

[@bwe6412]

NA being in a rivalry with BR is the funniest shit

[@thunderryu0494]

that's like saying VCS and LCK have a rivalry... normally rivals are somewhat evenly matched historically

[@jadentran9895]

@@thunderryu0494 but NA actually struggles while VCS is actually worst than LCK so NA rivals with BR makes sense though that is funny as hell

[@YootubeSucksDip]

The funniest shit is how anyone outside of EU, Korea and china are even guaranteed worlds spots. Other than a few rare instances like FLY (aka 2 EU + 1 Korean) vs GEN , these matches are generally just boring stomps. Like filler episodes.

[@Darsam88]

​@@jadentran9895 What's the record of BR be NA? It's not close enough to make it out like NA struggles with them

[@Periodik]

Well EU can’t stop losing to NA so it’s not much of a rivalry anymore 😂😂😂

[@mackbid4280]

This is a fiesta

[@4547466]

100T selling after an actual great run??? Wtf

[@chesterbelle]

lyon gaming vuelve papa

[@incarnateflame2312]

Best of 1s are why we SUCK at worlds.

[@gyromite]

I'm already hyped for matches with Pain.

[@lilflava6716]

So they added a super overly complex system that is going to make even more people frustrated and thus lower viewership even more.

[@Tht1guy63]

Best of 1s? Then best of 6. I hate this. Should be best of 3 atleast.

[@facts3221]

Wasn’t DSG midtier in NACL?

[@MagiRemmie]

They won it.

[@rynejones8513]

@@MagiRemmie that was last year. they were 7th this year. they absolutely were midtier and it only took a single year for the shine to wear off. riot is trying to get that back now, but it won't matter because after a year they likely get relegated anyways. similar in valorant toast had a lot of interest to begin with, spent tons of money on yay and they failed spectacularly. then he tried to swap to asia because its cheaper to play there than in the US and still failed to win the promotion.

[@The_Lightless]

@@rynejones8513I don’t understand what Toast is thinking, isn’t he just losing tons of money left and right for something that isn’t even worth it?

[@rynejones8513]

@The_Lightless he probably thought he could get on to the VCT when he bought yay tbf. That was a shock at the time at how poorly it went, but looking back it's happened a lot with him. I don't know how much more revenue they would bring in with VCT but many orgs were trying that first year. TSM and Moist were two big ones. M80 got tons of investment this year only to get beaten by the Brazilian team in the final. It doesn't seem worth it I agree

[@The_Lightless]

@@rynejones8513 it’s absolutely not worth, I don’t even understand what his end goal is but whatever it is, I know that he will not make back the money that he has lost along the way, let alone profit.

[@tweedybird3404]

Cod team hurting them pockets 😂

[@marijhorn]

still the regionality of the players is kinda sad, look at the other sports. While european constantly creating great players and shifts them to the NHL for instnace. Why here it should be restricted to build teams differently? That actually change the competetive possibilities and outcomes in the future, while for a decade they are hardly capable to compete at national levels against EU/Asia. I find this a bit sad, only the players as Doubelift actually say "that's good" because this way the position of the local players are nearly easy deal and thus they have less hard work to get there and/or remain at the top level. GL to the LTA (sounds terrible - but what ever)

[@aR0ttenBANANA]

DSG couldn't afford to stay in VAL but they can in LoL? Ok...

[@ThatsAmore123]

They are staying in Val

[@TheLuckyHatKid]

TSM Rebirth 2025 to replace 100T 🙌

[@birdie757]

this is a terrible procurement, open season for players is dead and so is the playerbase. Nobody is coming to play league anymore, you have killed opportunity also every team being named after a company is ugly also, you dont see the Progressive denver broncos, come tf on

[@JMartinDA]

Regions merging is a sign of decrease in viewership and fan interest, I fear we won't have an LTA in 5 years? :/

[@asuraXTC]

Well yeah who wants to watch worlds when every year the same teams wins which is why I don’t get why people always rooting for skt

[@JMartinDA]

@ T1 doesn’t always win, have you seen who’s won the last 4 splits in the LCK? T1 is just better in Worlds.

[@CiCi_Artenjoy]

@@asuraXTC I used to be FNC fan when it was the old roster, with Xpeke and Cyanide and Soaz, after which i've been T1 fan cause of the players. i don't care about "Regional pride" i care about watching my favourite players playing. thats why i'm T1 fan. Also Worlds this year had biggest highest amount of people watch so... Its mainly NA as a region that is dying, similar to how CS was dying in NA region at the end of CSGO lifecycle cause NA had covid, and the whole debacle inside of it meaning alot of money was going out of NA because there were no longer tournaments. I think its the same here, NA just running out of money.

[@jamess359]

​@@asuraXTCPeople root for SKT because they deserve it. It's called competition. The best team wins. Perhaps YOU don't understand why people enjoy competitive teams. If you want new teams to win, then they have to PROVE IT. Just like Faker said.

[@Bai_Su_Zhen]

Can we just sell the entire western pro scene please? I'm fucking done following any of it.

[@timsu_otb5729]

Bruh, we get a league of legends copa before we get gta 6

[@Obiwankenobi-w5q]

Well my time as a league fan has now ended. Goodbye everyone

[@lmSnarkk]

idk not really a fan of DSG being in LTA. They are not a T1 org, not even a t2 org. I don't see the appeal, and I was a big fan of disguised toast.

[@asuraXTC]

I mean they are. a wasted spot they play like na masters solo queue players

[@12mulesandy]

​@@asuraXTCdidn't their players get into LCS after they won which is why the team became worse? Also no way they don't sign new players now that they go T1 no?

[@JoeyEggz2]

Im huge sports and esports fan. Ive always wanted to see NA win. The thing is. I only want to see China and Korea at worlds. I want more Korean teams more Chinese teams. Its the best product by far. I don't want to see NA teams go to worlds anymore. Its embarrassing.

[@SlavElenkov]

Maybe I'm just dumb, but this new league is too complicated for me to understand. Lost interest in the league =/

[@Vexiong]

LTA looks terrible

[@mrdinkles6649]

Get out b4 Faker retires 😅

[@LilHaseProductions]

I don't watch these anymore but just came to see why 100t left. They're a relatively new team in the big picture of LCS, not a good sign. I don't know anyone who still watches or plays this game

[@User-pu3lc]

Did you just out yourself as having no friends? 😂

[@MagiRemmie]

Literally everyone.

[@rynejones8513]

100 thieves is leaving because its not profitable. its the same reason GG and NRG have left despite having success. that success doesn't translate into money and it isn't worth investing into the league while viewership continues to decline and the influence of LoL fades. new games will come out that can have esports scenes and get people reinvested into the concept, but this current one does not have a future.

[@The_Lightless]

⁠@@rynejones8513I believe this but the problem is that viewership for worlds and stuff is still among the best so at what point are we being foolish and biased and what point is it genuine?

[@rynejones8513]

@@The_Lightless when you have a global event yes it will have better viewership. Keep in mind those numbers are likely false in some ways as well. Riot does the drops for worlds for in game rewards. I have 3 different browsers going with my 3 league accounts PLUS my two twitch streams open for costreams. They are counting my single view 5 times and it's intended to be this way, thats why they use drops and costreams.

[@Thegangsta187]

Lcs is so shit that they combined with scrub regions lol

[@-SkyCat-]

i watch LCK and i'm in Cali... the Type of matches are better there..... League NA is trash.

[@gsh-69]

Cashapp 👀

[@Sciaovostro]

i think I stopped watching league when they started copying NBA spots, am i the only who did losed interest in the same time?

[@kekw4630]

freemasons logo

[@ImHydro16]

This shit is a joke. Who watches lcs now? 😂

[@Hunedpcl7]

No one. Everyone watches LTA now.

[@BigDoinksForMe]

@@Hunedpcl7 Technically only people who will watch LTA will watch LTA

[@famip3679]

This is going to bring down the level of skill for NA just sad

[@bongshark420]

???

[@jamess359]

NA has no skill to begin with 😅

[@KkkenAs-me4se]

Tsm is always in ur mind prob cus having sloppyseconds hurts ya

[@Jones-ke6bt]

Boooo

[@peterino6370]

The scene was at its peak when big sponsors came in before franchising. Players were getting paid decently, didn’t have to stream to keep the team alive (pay rent and buy food). Once franchising happened, players were playing more than they should be ( imo), no more competitiveness left, some of the games are no better than my gold 5 in OCE

[@Darsam88]

Yet they don't even come close to playing as much as the LCK/LPL, and the joke for a long time was that players where there in NA for a check for a while now.

[@GoldenStorm-gs7lx]

So they were trash back then and are trash rn (except Fly). Even importing like crazy couldn't save the region. Also 'playing way too much' is such a joke when it's literally their job. Eastern regions play a lot more and as a result they perform a lot better.

[@MrDT2012]

More like the orgs started being ran as if they were the LA lakers and getting revenue off a players likeness. Times change and they got sponsors and VC money. They just blew the money with no ROI.

[@rynejones8513]

lmao no way you think they were playing more than they should be. as the other pointed out, we play fewer games here than they do in LCK and LPL. it was more that players and orgs got comfortable. the point of franchising was supposed to be using that comfort to develop and not have to worry about losing their spot, but instead the orgs either splashed way too much money on players that offered very little to the league or they coasted.

[@BigDoinksForMe]

Videogame. As far as I am concerned, they should be playing 50 and should NOT have have 3 month offseasons. Again, video game. Now please, get offended by the fact I am being mean about the fact it is a video game and in reality no, nothing like an actual sport that literally outs your body and mind on the line every single day.

[@xSkwintz]

I stopped watching when I heard him say “they’re pretty much saying the split doesn’t matter”. This is why no one wants you on their team 😂😂😂

[@sicgaemz8116]

ok so the majority of the players have to be from their home region, yet korea is allowed to have all korean players? seems a bit racist and unfair, riot pls

[@Burnerhit]

???

[@The_Lightless]

Wtf r u saying

[@Tylerrrrrb]

What..

[@jamess359]

100t dies before the LTA. Calling it now. Bring it on, echo chamber nerds.

[@renashbellrn]

Because 100T can't even win sh*t

[@rynejones8513]

their problem was that they did win shit. the org 100T wanted out of league last year. this year C9 sucked ass at the end and the 100T players made it to worlds. this stopped them from getting the offer that IMT and NRG were given to leave.

[@zweiigorgon8980]

I don’t understand this perspective you literally do not know if the teams wanted this or not most likely its a decision by riot due to these regions being relatively low income

[@rynejones8513]

@@zweiigorgon8980 I don't think either of us were saying the teams wanted the shift in format. The changes are worse for the team side with less money going to them. Riot was in the driving seat because the 10 year league deal ran out and they got to change it all up. This is why GG/EG/NRG/IMT all left. The monet upfront was more valuable than the revenue they would be bringing in.

[@CB38096]

First and last LCS team to not make it out of playins at Worlds lol bye bye 100T not gunna miss ya

[@MattyCorcoran]

Dumb

[@vanp2640]

sooo what im seeing is, riot just wants to take away western international slots because they are so shit. Pretty good trade if you ask me

[@ouuuchhh]

don't bring your wallet? that sounds kind of racist...

[@generationxpvp]

Ask Midbeast how racist that is. In the most crime ridden city in the world.

[@Texuh]

it is

[@wilsonmiranne214]

It is not

[@MrWizardjr9]

tell that to midbeast who got mugged lol

[@Texuh]

@@MrWizardjr9 Zico a Brazilian ex-football player got mugged in Paris, so what?

[@shirtdirt1874]

it's a dead game bro

[@BigDoinksForMe]

From SR to eSports

[@TheMiraculousOne]

Who cares about the others 😂😂😂 we know only the chinese and koreans are gonna dominate league 😂😂😂