THE BATMAN - SPOILER TALK | Double Toasted

[@miguelespada1040]

The most hilarious moment was Riddler doing his vlog and saying "Hi guy's " 🤣 🤣 🤣 I died

[@stephenwalker972]

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[@michaelstrong5383]

"Hey all, Riddler here."

[@mgarchivearchive9776]

For real 😭

[@rodneyginokc]

@KTV 4U that was great....so was when Batman response to the twins taunting batman....you wanna get blood on that outfit? "YOURS OR MINE? hahaha so funny.

[@THE_BEAR_JEW]

For me it was between that and the Penguin making a case for himself “I didn’t shoot him!” Yeah bro but you literally fired a shot right at the guy right in the middle of a crowded street.

[@dougdeveloper8850]

"The Riddler is calm cause he always think he's the smartest person in the room, until he feels like he is not, then he flips out..." I didn't know that, but that's pretty damn good characterization for a Batman villain.

[@Moromom22]

That's why the Batman arkham games nailed Riddler's character to a T. He's annoying and arrogant in the beginning, but then you take him down to the point where he loses every ounce of his cool.

[@johnsonartchive8826]

I want Zach Woods to be the new Scarecrow

[@nickgardner8594]

@@johnsonartchive8826 m bel M mom fxtdlk n k k H chi

[@icedcapplord710]

The sequence where one of Riddler's followers echoes the "I'm vengeance" line from the start of the film, and the shot of Batman realizing what his crusading had caused was so powerful without a single piece of spoken dialogue. Matt Reeves does a lot with showing the audience without telling through directing the actors to portray their characters physically in all the scenes, and it was a beautiful progression of his character arc. The epilogue scene with Batman carrying the victim to the stretcher to be treated was incredibly well done. This film was basically as close to my ideal Batman film as I could've possibly hoped for.

[@StanvilleBrown]

When Batman lead the people in water to safety, was Bruce first steps from being Vengeance to The Dark Knight.

[@michaelstrong5383]

Another great example of Matt Reeves' "show, don't tell" method is whenever Bruce Wayne glanced at that little boy. Any other director would have shown a little bit of a flashback to Bruce's childhood, but it's not necessary in this film. Even people who aren't all too familiar with Batman's lore can put two and two together with moments like that.

[@icedcapplord710]

@@michaelstrong5383 And he does it twice as well. Once as Batman while he's being escorted out of the crime scene for the mayor's murder, and again as Bruce at the mayor's funeral, showing that he carries that burden in and out of the suit

[@invisiblebully171]

I thought they were mocking Batman I didn't know they thought that of themselves

[@doktor3196]

"Look at us. We're all freaks and monsters. And whose fault this is? BATMAN!" Harvey

[@captaintaco979]

Scarecrow would be amazing. He was severely under utilized in Batman Begins, and considering how well Reeves made the Riddler’s murders disturbing. Scarecrow’s nightmare sequences could be amazing.

[@Slipknot4769]

Omg totally!

[@TheGlobalForce]

YES!

[@will3pr]

I agree! They could do a Scarecrow & Hugo Strange combo I was thinking about, Hugo creating the medicine that Scarecrow weaponizes but Hugo also in Arkham talking to Batmans villains.

[@duzted]

I need a Clayface, Clock King and ManBat!!

[@johnpangarakis396]

Dude. A Batman movie that is basically a horror film with the Scarecrow would blow my mind. I need it.

[@vibangigan5336]

My friend turned to me a few times and said, "This batman is terrifying" and I laughed cause he's right and it was during the chase scene. When Batman walked him down with the flame behind him, I turned to him and said, "Bro he is Michael Myers to these criminals". Also took my favorite thing in the Snyder run where it's so gothic and feels like batman is one with the shadow at times.

[@thomaschristopherwhite9043]

That intro where criminals start looking at dark corners of gotham like a child with an imagination going wild looking into the dark hallway of your house. That was the most terrifying part to me.

[@JustinShrader]

That prison scene with riddler and Batman was brilliant. He was talking about Bruce Wayne, not to Bruce Wayne. The way they tricked Batman and the audience was amazing.

[@aaronisacomedian]

I was gonna comment about this. I'm wondering if the guys caught that because I didn't the first time

[@lunavioleta001]

I actually think it was meant to be vague. They also hinted that he might know. For example, there were times in that interrogation scene that he looked straight into the camera. To me it was as if he could of said he was Bruce, but purposely pretended like he was talking about Bruce. Also in that scene, he very briefly said "you", but cannot remember what was the sentence He doesn't want to take away Batman's mask off. At least that's why I got from it.

[@mttylerdurden9]

But what if Riddler was tricking Batman into thinking he didn't know his true identity? That's something Riddler would do

[@lunavioleta001]

@@mttylerdurden9 I think he just didn't want others to know that Batman was Bruce Wayne. That's why he looked into the camera knowing they were probably watching and listening. If he was alone with Batman, he would probably say he knows.

[@JustinShrader]

@@lunavioleta001 that makes a lot of sense. Either way I love that we will have this over our heads for years until Batman 2, leaving such a lasting effect from the riddler! Really nails the dna of the actual character

[@ThousanWhite]

Fans: This movie is too god damn long! Also Fans: You know, I really wanted to see more Riddler, more Falcone, Catwoman, Gordon, Penguin, and more Alfred.

[@GeoffWilde]

It's not that it's too long, it just drags. Alot of the scenes are way too bloated and just dont have enough characterization

[@thelinedrive]

Me: Over 3 hours is too long. Me after: Over 3 hours is too long and the length hampers what is ultimately a brilliant 5th act because of how long it takes to get there.

[@batzxxl]

That scene of Batman leading those survivors through the flood waters with that flare was gorgeous. Beautifully shot and really shows that Reeves understands the character. Batman is not just a vigilante trying to stop crime. Gotham is his. Right or wrong, he feels responsibility for the city.

[@richrod0122]

The point of Bruce not being Bruce who’s snobby and smooth with the chicks is because this movie was him realizing the city needs Bruce as much as it needs Batman. It sadly took riddler to realize that.

[@JoJoJoker]

Good point.

[@JeremiahTownsend]

Preach.

[@spankyfingaz]

How so? How exactly does 1 rich playboy make a difference to people's lives?

[@LB-np5zv]

@@spankyfingaz the restoration fund wouldn’t have been a talking point if it the riddler saw it happen

[@nvmfirezactaylor6035]

@@spankyfingaz Bruce Wayne puts a ridiculous amount of time and money to try and improve the services of Gotham to the poor and needy. Homeless shelters, soup kitchens, foster care, orphanages, campaigning and donations to the few genuine politican in Gotham, paid to improve Arkham and Blackgate facilities, donations to the gcpd so they can handle the crazy-ass villains. He spends a lotta resources to help Gotham not just as Batman, but as Bruce Wayne too

[@So_Oneal]

When Batman emerged from the darkness with those slow heavy steps was dope; the movie score was a 10/10 for me.

[@Dormul]

Didn't feel right in my opinion. Batman shouldn't wear boots that give off that much noise. He's supposed to be a ninja.

[@aidenpearce5137]

@@Dormul So you're a free to revise your opinion about both. Batman just like ninja, use psychological warfare to reach his goal. Being stealthy is one. Being noisy is another one. The sound here trigger a Pavlovian effect, the same way you would be scared to death if you heard Darth Vador respiratory system. To a ninja, EVERYTHING is a tool. Stealth is preferred because it can avoid useless fights and possible injuries.

[@So_Oneal]

@@Dormul Yeah I get it we're all used to that type of batman jumping out of nowhere or crashing through windows; this movie just gave him a different look and persona which I was cool with.

[@batzxxl]

I like that he's not a seasoned detective yet. The Batman we're used to seeing, has been through years of fighting crime. He's seen it all. That experience is why he's able to piece things together so quickly. But you have to learn that over time. It would be unrealistic for him to be that guy at this stage of his career. He shows traits. You can see he has the instincts, but it's not refined. He's like a promising rookie at this point. All these people saying it's a negative of the movie that he's not a good detective are missing the point. He's learning how to be the Batman we're used to seeing.

[@donschamun273]

Since this is a spoiler review, the biggest feature that I've seen many viewers miss is when the Riddler in Arkham first starts talking about Brrrruuuuuce, and The Batman thinks his identity is blown, but they miss the transition where Riddler is actually mourning missing one of his targets and still thinks Batman is his sympathetic co-conspirator. I loved that The Batman was a changed man by the end of the movie, with the potential to change still more. I loved that he strode out of the shadows, a gunslinger without guns, and it sounded like he had spurs when his feet hit the pavement. I hated that The Batman waded into gunfire like he was wearing Beskar, like he was wearing Iron Man's caveman suit.

[@ajiththomas2465]

Honestly, I feel like Riddler knew Batman's true identity as Bruce Wayne but he was purposely acting like he didn't know and talked about Bruce more than to Bruce because he knew that everything was being recorded and he wanted to save the mystery. If they were talking with true privacy, I think Riddler would make it clear to Batman that he knows that he's Bruce. I'm sure that I recall a few shots of where he seems to be looking straight at the camera.

[@etherspin]

yeah its like he is presenting the idea to Batman like come on, I need you to help me, you will as soon as you hear this.. bear with me.... Brooooose Weeeeeyne! then he is nominally surprised at the different reaction

[@etherspin]

@@ajiththomas2465 eventually it becomes clear that there are loads of parallels with Edward and Bruce and one of them is blind spots due to rage. because Edward has started getting turned on by taking out these targets he has justified his plan to kill Bruce by constructing a shallow narcissistic rich boy who is the antithesis of Batman and to him its unthinkable that Bruce could be this agent of "vengeance"

[@TraGamer1606]

That opening monologue literally gave my wife a full blown anxiety attack. That’s how legit it was

[@uhuhuh1966]

I was feeling anxious too! It wasn’t until the punchline “thumb…drive.” That I laughed and finally loosened up

[@icedcapplord710]

When the "drophead" goon was looking ahead at the streets fearing that Batman was about to confront him I had chills down my spine lol

[@ajhebb]

I also felt my Panic Disorder building up in that scene, so you're not alone.

[@CDL237]

Let’s give credit to Giacchino’s score, this is probably the greatest Batman theme I have ever heard

[@michaelstrong5383]

Between No Way Home and The Batman, Michael Giacchino has been killing it!

[@THEKXRMANETWORK]

And he made sure u heard it too😂😂

[@BluEx22329]

Darth Vader esk

[@one_with_kevrything9825]

Shirley Walker's from Mask of the Phantasm is the best and it's not even close.

[@Nay089]

The Riddler and Catwoman’s themes were excellent too

[@nuffsaidny]

In The Batman, Bruce is still trying to establish himself as someone/something to be feared. If you noticed, only petty criminals feared him. The police, Falcone, Penguin, Catwoman and Gordon did not. Falcone even jokingly called him Zorro

[@icedcapplord710]

Best nickname was when Cobblepot called him Bat-Shit Cop after the Batmobile chase scene lol

[@nuffsaidny]

@@icedcapplord710 LMFAOOOOO

[@davidcici11Evolution]

Batman is also heavily influenced by Zorro might of been a wink and a nod reference in that moment.

[@icedcapplord710]

@@davidcici11Evolution in addition to the fact that in many interpretations, Mask of Zorro was the last movie he saw with his parents directly before they were killed

[@AlexReviewsandStuff]

I am so glad Chris brought up the comparisons to the telltale series that many have been overlooking. I mean there’s definitely other storylines that do follow the corrupt side of the Wayne’s but I kept thinking of the telltale series, and it’s sequel “The enemy within”. The traps the riddler sets up kept making me think of that

[@robertwild9447]

Agreed. Zero Year and Earth One are the primary comics I was thinking of that influenced the film, but there was definitely some of the Telltale series in there too.

[@RJ-Ramen]

I love seeing the Telltale games get love. Hope we get a Batman season 3.

[@eastsidereviews727]

Pointed that right out. The Telltale stuff is so good and I am still bummed we won't get a season 3.

[@clittlecrow]

Before my dad passed I played both of those seasons for him...me and my dad absolutely loved in season 2 you got to make Joker the "Robin" of the series and make him a good guy. Very sad he won't be able to see season 3.

[@parkerboy795]

Yeah, but I also liked that it was less corruption and more moment of weakness. I honestly don't really care for the Waynes being dirty.

[@jiga6832]

When I saw Riddler on his website and he started by saying "Hi guy's" like he is a KZbinr I laughed so hard 😂😂😂😂

[@dominiquejones3805]

Brought what I've always asked about the henchmen 2 screen.

[@isuriadireja91]

Personally, I like that they didn't have Bruce/Batman "grow" in this movie..and instead saving it for the sequel. I mean, they DID show how he's learned that he needs to be more than VENGEANCE..and that he can do good things as Bruce Wayne..righting the wrongs his father did..and "fixing" the Wayne legacy. Plus..from that embarrassing crash he had after that Bat-FLIGHT...we sure can see how he'd improve his mastery of his own gadgets..and fighting moves. I see this as the second movie Nolan should've made instead of The Dark Knight..which should've been the third movie. That whole Bane and the return of the League of Shadows crap were just the WRONG direction for the third and final movie.

[@agravery223]

Yeah I didn't like the 3rd installment either.

[@dominiquejones3805]

Love they slowed it down

[@GoldieSC]

My biggest complaint is that they needed more Alfred. I was instantly fascinated with Serkis' version. Also re: Paul Dano, it's DAY-No, not DAN-O!

[@dominiquejones3805]

Yo, Serkis and Irons. I want 2 know more about them

[@ImABadTeammate]

That segue to Better Help was hilarious and you handled it perfectly. Jokes are okay and then you were serious when you needed to be.

[@ryuoh6928]

I'm pretty sure Matt Reeves can figure out some kind of science-y explanation for Freeze to exist in this universe, and I'm totally on board with giving Freeze another chance on film.

[@Slipknot4769]

SAME

[@thelinedrive]

Freeze isn’t really that far of a stretch to make realistic to be honest. Combine that with the fact in this universe Gotham is a New Orleans type city surrounded by sea walls it wouldn’t take much to make it believable.

[@Alex_Mercer_The_PROTOTYPE]

The Riddler was a great enough choice, I for one don't really want to see another Joker. I mean there are so many other great Batman Villains that can fill in the shoes like Scarecrow, Two-Face, or Penguin 🐧 any other more grounded characters. They all have potential.

[@ibnkarim5371]

I agree, but I think since the Joker is considered Batman's all time arch nemesis, it is kinda hard to establish a universe fully without him. I believe many people would get the impression that “something is missing” if you know what I mean? Yet still agree though, there are so many other villains with potential.

[@Kenji-fm8kf]

Penguin was hilarious. I loved his henchmen too can’t wait to see the new hbo max series

[@rodneyginokc]

the twins.

[@jakoshi2763]

It doesn’t make sense to me that gordon and batman let him go when his reckless driving caused so much damage and death

[@AO-bl7cc]

@@jakoshi2763 I agree, that chase scene didn't need to be there, it didn't logically follow up to let Penguin go after he caused multiple wrecks and exploding semi trucks. The whole thing could have played out back at that warehouse. that said, damn, I did not know that was Colin Farrell in make-up. Crazy good acting and make up to make audiences not notice.

[@anthonyanderson9303]

@@AO-bl7cc they didn't have time to deal with him they had bigger fish to fry.

[@micmaliss]

Martin and I laughed at the same thing. As soon as Alfred opened his eyes Bruce was there giving him the third degree. I was like "Damn, Bruce. Where's the love you rotten bastard?"

[@lani7148]

I laughed in the theater, when Alfred woke up and the 1st thing Bruce says is "You lied to me". Like damn, Bruce, let the man know you're happy he didn't die.

[@micmaliss]

@@lani7148 LOL!!! I'm glad I was not the only one.

[@novaquartz5049]

I think my biggest issue with it - was the relationship. Personally it seemed Selena had more love and care for her friend. Batman had more romance with Gordon.

[@EchoJ]

Glad to see someone finally tells the truth about billionaires. It's impossible to be in the billionaire class without having stepped on the necks of others and stolen money from the labor class. Kudos to Reeves for injecting some realism into the Wayne family legacy.

[@parkerboy795]

Unless I'm remembering wrong, Thomas didn't do that. After he was murdered, corrupt officials took control of his renewal program. The worst he did was ask Falcone for a favor, which he later regretted.

[@reikun86]

@@parkerboy795 Yup. The drawback of Wayne’s vision of the Renewal program was that he didn’t appoint an overseer of those funds to make sure that the money was allocated correctly.

[@JamesASharp]

Yes. I agree. It's different, but good.

[@SaintofFables]

@@reikun86 it’s funny that his big fuck up with the renewal program was having too much faith in the good in people

[@reikun86]

@@SaintofFables That’s the downside of optimism and altruism in a place like Gotham City. He thought everyone in similar position was like him.

[@camaradiop3731]

When the Batman realized that vengeance was not the way to go, it reminded me of the "Justice League: The New Frontier" when Batman changed because he desired to frighten criminals, not children.

[@JustinZarian]

The Dark Knight is still the best Batman movie, but this is one of the more ambitious movies. Just by being a detective movie first and foremost, it does more than most other Batman movies.

[@VidSpot23532]

I have to politely disagree. The dark knight wouldn't be what it is without joker imo. I loved the batman because of the batman lol. Best batman ever on screen imo, very excited for the future

[@Ekleaz]

@@VidSpot23532 I have to politely disagree with you. This movie felt almost like a rip off of The Dark Knight minus the set pieces.

[@icedcapplord710]

Even though TDK can be considered the superior film, I do think this is really fighting hard for that "best Batman movie" position in that it literally didn't skip out on any of the core elements of the character, including the detective aspect which was extremely sparingly used in other film adaptations, especially the Nolan films.

[@RS-kt6bo]

@@VidSpot23532 I hate how the internet has started to disrespect Bale because of the shiny new toy. He's the best Batman imho. He was brilliant alongside Ledger's Joker. The interrogation scene in TDK is far superior in every way because of how well the two of them played off each other. The Tumbler chase followed by Batpod vs Truck is better than anything put forth in the Batman. The Hong Kong scene where Batman flies in to extract Lao is one of the most iconic scenes of all time. Compare that to the silly wingsuit in the Batman. Come on now. Let's be honest here.

[@DeceivedHeretic]

@@Ekleaz a rip off? In what universe is it a ripoff?

[@batzxxl]

For the sequel, I hope they introduce Nightwing as a fledgling vigilante in Bludhaven, trying to recreate what batman is doing in Gotham. Batman finds out about him and a few others and that's how we eventually get Batman incorporated. Not by him raising Dick Grayson as a ward, but by being a mentor to a young guy that's already on that path. I think that would be much more compelling. And I love that idea of keeping Joker in Arkham and consulting him like Hannibal.

[@Mesa4u2nv]

I watched about 3 different sets of people walk out with their kids in the first 10 minutes 😂😂

[@dominiquejones3805]

Good

[@miraclecomics]

Also in the Flashpoint story where Bruce is shot instead of his parents, Thomas Wayne becomes Batman and Martha Wayne becomes The Joker

[@scottmccall2680]

The Batman delivers the gritty noir style crime thriller I've always wanted to see in a Batman movie. It's a true detective story that explores the corruption of Gotham in much deeper way than we've ever seen on the big which extremely impressive following Nolan's trilogy. Of course all the performances are top notch and Robert Pattinson KILLED it as Batman! I think he succeeded in silencing many of the ignorant idiots and naysayers that were bringing up Twilight who clearly hadn't seen any of his work outside of that franchise.

[@michaelstrong5383]

I never had any doubt for Pattinson because I saw The Lighthouse and Good Time. He's a great actor and the Twilight films really held him back.

[@bros4654]

Agreed, I had zero concerns with Pattinson, we knew he'd handle it just fine. Speaking of noir though, I'll bet that the poor guy got sick of filming in rain, lol.

[@TheToyZone00]

I feel like they going to have Joker recruiting everyone Batman locks up. And all of this will build up to a Arkham Asylum movie.

[@E9Mar]

There’s an Arkham show coming on HBO Max

[@kronos1794]

Joker would be great as a Hannibal like element and by the third film he's actively sending villains after people on the outside and Bruce is stuck because technically Joker is incarcerated so Batman can't touch him.

[@TheToyZone00]

I’m thinking Harley and Jokers relationship is going to play out through the Arkham Series. But the much greater scheme of taking over the asylum will climax in the final to last movie. This depends on who the real antagonists of the movies are as I’m sure they’ll still use the court of owls. I think the Arkham series has a lot of potential to explore the villains we wouldn’t usually see in the movies. And show us there origins. I have a feeling we will see another Two Face and Bane. As I think penguin will probably have the lady DA assassinated. And if that was venom or a early version of the drug that Bats used at the end of the movie. Then we might get that storyline from the comics where Bruce is hooked on using it. Again tho I’m not entirely sure where they’d put Bane if he did show up at all.

[@Manufan-og1xg]

@@kronos1794 The Batman doesn't care if you're incarcerated. Hell just break in, beat your ass up and peace out.

[@ninjanibba4259]

I’d rather not have Joker at all

[@eastsidereviews727]

For me, I would want villains we haven't seen on screen, aside Bane played by Dave Bautista. My top 5 would be Hugo Strange, Mad Hatter, Deacon Blackfire, Scarface and Ventriloquist, and if they really want to fuck with folks, Professor Pig.

[@TitanSubZero15]

I would love to see a full fledged Scarecrow. Make a near horror movie with psychological effects on Batman and Gotham.

[@erockbaby3000]

Or DollMaker, Mister Zsasz, Professor Pyg, & Hush. Batman has so many like horror movie villains

[@TitanSubZero15]

@@erockbaby3000 I remember in Arkham City there was this one dude who looked like Bruce Wayne. I think he was a surgeon.

[@primemcmanus]

@@TitanSubZero15 Thomas Elliott aka Hush. The reporter was named Edward Elliott whom was Tommy's great grandfather in the comics. It could be possible that we'll see Hush in a sequel or one of the TV shows.

[@jessthestylist8694]

One thing the animated series did great with was showing how Bruce is not only Batman but a detective so I feel like to play this character you have to play 3 people. Pattinson nails it. I’m excited to see what he does with this character in future films if he comes back. And also adding on how it pushed the R rating; this film did something unique with doing tasteful violence that was partnered with great characters that you rooted for including the villains. Hollywood, using Alien vs Predator 2 as an example, thinks that to make an R film we want violence sex and gore but this film proves you CAN have a great story with all these things even with a PG-13 rating. So freaking well done

[@raven3067]

Hugo Strange would be great main antagonist for a sequel.

[@jerraldwest8531]

I gotta say, John Turturro was amazing as Carmine Falcone. I still like Tom Wilkinson's portrayal, but he was very overt about the ways he tried to be intimidating. John Turturro's version was cunning, manipulative, and very nuanced. It was like you could feel the evil slowly oozing out of him like tree sap.

[@greenman394]

I think they should continue a war for the city plotline in the second movie and have Penguin vs Black Mask vs League of Shadows or do the court if owls. Have some other villain cameos in there. I'm sure they could make a grounded Mr. Freeze work too.

[@laurenceshelly6932]

I love listening to you guys. It's like hanging out with my friends talking about movies. Unfortunately we're all older with children and don't have as much time anymore.

[@youfirst6611]

“Batman isn’t sloppy, Batman doesn’t mess up” Let me put you on to Batman: Earth One. A series of graphic novels done by Geoff Johns. One of the other inspirations of that film. In this continuity Bruce’s mother was an Arkham, he was trained by Alfred, and he kind of sucks at his job.

[@icedcapplord710]

Which was also very clearly where they got the foundation for serial killer Riddler and the "I'm vengeance" line from

[@saracohle]

And the other reference point, Zero Year, he’s a grungy, angry, bullheaded force who create a whole lot of problems trying to take down the Red Hood crime gang on his vengeance crusade against The Riddler. He even screws up and the sea wall cracks.

[@parkerboy795]

Or Arkham Origins where he chose to spend either Christmas, Christmas Eve or some day close to Christmas as Batman instead of Bruce Wayne. He also choked a guy out when he meant to interrogate him.

[@niktour352]

Right. He messes up because he still hasn't healed and this is only year two. He hasn't mastered the Bruce facade yet. He hasn't mastered Batman yet. Like a year two teacher is still gonna make a lot more mistakes than a year seven teacher

[@brandeno919]

This movie had a deep message and it made me take riddler way more serious like the Arkham games

[@AO-bl7cc]

This movie adds to the Riddler persona that the other movies and even the cartoon shows did not. Notice that the people that joined Riddler's cause were conspiracy minded. People who are inclined to believe conspiracies do so because they lack something mentally the keeps them from being able to cope with the real world around them. The Riddler in this movie, not only loves puzzles and riddles, but he exploits people's mental weaknesses and shortcomings in order to get what he wants.

[@brandeno919]

@@AO-bl7ccyes!

[@dominiquejones3805]

I still haven't completed all the riddles on Arkham City

[@hyenabionic544]

31:43 32:15 Korey's High pitched voice is hilarious to me for some reason along with pretending to be Catwoman is amazing here

[@joshsum]

I love how if Batman had taken Intro To Spanish, we wouldn’t have had that chase scene lol

[@icedcapplord710]

Literally spent all of teenhood studying around the world to perfect his skills in the sciences, detective work, and being trained in combat by Alfred Forgot to visit Spain for Spanish lessons despite being a known multlingualist lol

[@joshsum]

@@icedcapplord710 😂😂😂😂

[@erockbaby3000]

😂😂😂

[@reikun86]

@@icedcapplord710 all that money, and can’t afford Rosetta Stone. He knew a little Japanese in the animated series.

[@MidKnightDetective]

It wasn't a Spanish issue. The riddle was URL rataalada, not you are el rata a lada

[@CinemaSnob999]

It was penguin who intentionally hit his car against the side of one of those which caused the whole domino of all those trucks getting fucked.

[@liferealgood]

Mr Antifreeze. Lmao 🤣 man I could watch that clip over and over again. Martin damn near broke out into a full laugh.

[@MarkeesBoisseau]

I loved this movie, but some story choices took me out. How did a car crash into the wake of a dead mayor with all those cops in attendance. What type of security and police force does Gotham have where one mayor gets killed, another shot and then a funeral gets rammed by a car? Batman was scary and lurking in the shadows but no one was really scared of him. Paint face goons got beat up but they charged him with no fear. The cops weren't scared of him. Every goon in the movie wasn't scared of him either. They all fought him head on.

[@yaboysix]

He’s still new…thy ain’t know…but they gone learn! Lol

[@D.A.D.D.Y.]

One thing I disagree with on y'alls take (though I love this video) is the lack of emotional involvement. Though it's not as nearly as emotionally intense as The Dark Knight, I think this take was dead accurate in portraying someone who is legitimately traumatized. They will appear very closed off on the surface even when there is a great deal underneath. In some ways this interpretation was more emotional for me than other Bruce Wayne's because of the psychological accuracy. Though I can see how it would be difficult to identify with this character if your not an emo white dude from a wealthy family lol.

[@babypinhead7656]

The white dude ALWAYS says the most creative things 😭 ! Every breakdown and/or idea he says, I’m always like “YES !”. His understanding OF great movies AND putting together a great movie is insane 🔥

[@richardcruz2803]

The white dude??? Dont be racist

[@bros4654]

I think that he sometimes gets steamrolled by the bigger personalities in the room, but I do enjoy his takes.

[@babytoshiro7014]

I think having his own channel has help him to be more forceful with his opinion and that helps

[@DGenerationMC]

I hope we get a training montage in the sequel where Alfred teaches Bruce how to be suave as fuck while simultaneously yelling at him for being an anti-social bum.

[@mollytovxx4181]

Batman learning table manners and how to make small talk with politicians and foreign dignitaries. The Princess Diary remake we all want to see.

[@a.p.5342]

Absolutely loved the film so much. There are so many shots of Robert as Batman where he just straight up looks like Batman from the Arkham Game Series. Like the scene where he asks the twins to see Penguin at the Iceberg Lounge entrance.

[@dominiquejones3805]

This is my favorite. I wanted more Affleck/Batman viciousness n a film. I can definitely see Rob version as a younger version of that 1

[@Shaunodon95]

Only just started the video but I feel you've already miss-characterised the Waynes. They weren't in bed with Falcone or the mob, it was only in one moment of weakness that Thomas Wayne asked him for help not realising how far he'd go. It was also implied they died because they were about to expose him.

[@lloydconnor6176]

It's still a comic book character so I enjoyed everything. Car chase was awesome..but the character I need is CLAY FACE..I've been screaming for him.

[@Gideon13397]

But how they gonna do him though? You can't just make a realistic version of him because they somewhat tried that in the Gotham TV series and ended up being laughable. You gotta have him turning into a giant, mushy and disgusting piece of a woman's make-up.

[@lloydconnor6176]

@@Gideon13397 now we know u can't compare TV to the Big screen. I'm sure they would do it correctly.

[@dwnxx4974]

i’d like a Mr Freeze that worked at a morgue and kept his victims in those body chillers. It would be cool if the deal with his was was that he was an abuser and accidentally killed his wife and keeps her in one of the chillers in the morgue so that he still feels close to her or something fucked up like that.

[@dreamsofanother]

boy you might’ve just did sumn w this

[@joshheralal8758]

I feel like comic accurate Mr. Freeze could work honestly.

[@michaellabonte6390]

@@joshheralal8758 more like Batman TAS accurate. Most people dojt remember Mr Freeze sucked in the comics until he was reimagined the Batman the Animated Series

[@chanelhenderson8460]

Second best Batman after TDK. If people don't get what Matt Reeves was doing with the difference between Bruce & Batman they're determined not to get it. There is no Bruce Wayne character here...he only recognizes himself as Batman he's focused on how to be a symbol of hope & justice not rage anger etc. He's only 2 years in he's still learning like if people don't get that that's on them. Like it's great to not see Thomas & Martha Wayne's murder its great to see a much younger Batman he's not the polished Billionaire playboy. He's not 10-15 years into Batman like people are so used to seeing the samething they can't appreciate a fresh take. 10/10 for me along with TDK 🤷🏽 it is the Joker Matt Reeves confirmed it

[@jrob4795]

People don't have a problem with young Batman. A lot of his best stories were set in the year one and two era of his career. My personal problem with this film is how incompetent this Batman is. Year two in the comics, Batman was highly capable, and very much established..this ain't that. I think these films are made for casuals as a introduction to the character. All of these "grounded" takes on Batman are starting to make me think that DC is ashamed of the fact that these characters are straight out of comic books.

[@joker6558]

Batman was only a year and a half in in TDK

[@avonbarksdale91]

@@joker6558 but was trained by who for how long?

[@chanelhenderson8460]

@@jrob4795 disagree really don't think with all the films comics & cartoons people need an introduction to batman. Its fine to switch up comics sometimes & many said this was the batman they had been waiting on & these are HARDCORE fans

[@jrob4795]

@@chanelhenderson8460 People say that just about every time a new Batman movie drops.

[@Manufan-og1xg]

I want to see Mr. Freeze done right and Matt Reeves could make it work. He has to freeze people Korey, it's in his got damn name. A comic accurate Killer Croc or Clayface would be a dream come true.

[@Slipknot4769]

It would be AMAZING if it was revealed in a later movie that one of the people close to Bruce was Clayface the whole time. Like Gordon.

[@maxpokebruh27]

My pick for a sequel villain would be Prometheus. He's the other side of Batman where his parents were murdered by cops. I think that would be great especially if you bring in real world issues like BLM and police brutality into the sequel.

[@JoshBou]

I just whish the mystery was more clever, I never really got that "Woah! WTF! I would have never saw that coming but it all makes total sense, how did I not see that!" moment I get with some of the episodes of the Batman the animated series.

[@D.A.D.D.Y.]

So glad you guys did a second video on this one, it was worth multiple watches for me.

[@cdogg46]

25:30 The events I'm assuming happened similarly to Batman 89 where he fell into the acid, he became Joker, then Batman put him away a sometime before this film

[@darkwriter_xx94]

Scarecrow would be a breath of fresh air to see. I would also love to see poison ivy especially if they keep with the theme of the renewal plan being a hoax. I think both would be great to watch in this grittier darker version

[@seanclay7121]

My only real other issue with this film is I didn't understand how a great detective with pointy ears, a symbol of a bat on his chest, that calls himself the Batman, took half the film to consider that a "rat with wings" might possibly be a bat. He actually didn't even figure it out....the Penguin had to clue him in. He answers most of the other riddles in a manner of seconds or minutes but the flying rat thing threw him off. Hopefully I missed something...maybe I nodded off at the 2 hr mark.

[@luchamiomaridekakio6429]

True but rat with wings turned out to be a falcon

[@jrue305]

And the most emotional I got and I loved it was when he saved the mayor and the rest of the people. Just him reaching out and taking her hand got me for some reason.

[@malako777A]

the BIGGEST part of the puzzle from the Riddler... Batman found out through the TV reporting on the Wayne's background.... Great detective work, Bats!

[@emyf9197]

Btw that little boy seems to be a hint that he could be Robin.. Especially the ending where Bruce pulls him out from the flood. I really want them to do court of owls in the next. The hints abt them were in this movie with the owl cards by riddler.. And I'm reading the comics now n Bruce do wear those eye contacts

[@ajhebb]

Loved all the points and comparisons that were brought up in this review. I can't wait for the second movie, which I would be on board if it goes with the Court of Owls concept mentioned. Though I would also be on board for a Mr. Freeze villain plot, Batman sees the part of Freeze who just wants to save his wife. Great video as always, Double Toasted!

[@toughfff712]

A good villain for this world is a calender man, that would make great detective work. Solving crimes that are holiday related.

[@santos8468]

John Turturro steals every scene he's in. He's the scariest version of Carmine Falcon put on film.

[@jollyrayda]

Given the family revelations in this one, it'd be interesting to do a Bane story that follows when he thought Thomas Wayne was his father and went to Batman for help figuring it out... And I keep hearing it, but Court of Owls is an OLDER Bruce story - if you do it without an adult Dick Grayson, it alters some very fundamental parts of that story...

[@dominiquejones3805]

2 me they mixed some of Joker n with this movie. We not sure the Waynes were squeaky clean

[@EssentiallyHeroes]

I had a really good time with it! Finally getting Batman into a gritty detective story on the big screen was a good move. And seeing this type of Batman was also great, young and still working through his demons. The runtime was long, but I guess it felt justified given that there was so much ground to cover with the Riddler and Falcone. Selina was definitely underdeveloped and her kiss with Bruce felt really forced, and I agree they don't give you enough time to care about what she's going through. I'm not even sure if she and Annika were lovers or just friends or what. Also not enough time with Alfred either. So that's a bit ironic considering the runtime lol I am one of those people who believes this movie should have been rated R. I just don't see this as a movie for younger fans of Batman. There's nothing here for them. It's a very reserved movie all things considered and not the stuff younger kids wanna see in a superhero movie imo. If I was a kid, I think I would have been a bit bored tbh But that's just my take on it, I could be underestimating the kids and teens of today. But still, I firmly believe that more violence, more blood, etc. could have been the cherry on top for this movie. 9/10, excited to see the next one. PS. I left the theater and realized he only used the Batmobile once and I wasn't sure how to feel about that lol 😂

[@mog2182]

Batman doesn't have disregard for human life, he avoids hitting any other cars, it's the penguin hitting cards, making them whip and flip and Batman is avoiding all of it all the time, I'm pretty sure the only thing he hit was a trash container. Pay attention if you're gonna make a point out of it.

[@Thaibiohazard123]

As a guy who fancies himself a hero. He should know better that racing to catch the bad guy on crowded road like that wouldn't end well. Penguin may be the one who did it, but the fact that Batman didn't consider for a second that might happen if he keeps this going is a mistake on his part. It's especially dumb when he didn't need to catch him right here right now. He could've gone after him later.

[@mog2182]

@@Thaibiohazard123 A bad judgment call on Batman's part is perfectly fine and perfectly in character with what we were presented for the character and it makes for a good scene, rule of cool. Saying he didn't care for lives or equating his responsability to the Penguin's actions is stupid. Also, how do you figure there was no rush? And gone after him later like the guy isn't going to dig himself into a bunker like a tick?

[@Thaibiohazard123]

@@mog2182 Being in character, yes, but I think the point is him being like that is not very likable as a version of Batman. His actions contradict his own ideal and what he’s trying to do for the city, making him a bit of a hypocrite. Furthermore, this, in fact, contradicts his own character in the prequel novel where he was in a race, a girl’s car got bombed and crashed, Bruce then, stopped everything else to save her life, making him realize for the first time that he felt good saving people. Probably the first spark of inspiration that made him do what he does today. But somehow he forgot all that now. So there’s a big inconsistency in Bruce here. And no, I don’t know if Penguin would’ve dig into a bunker, but considering how at no point in the story conveys that any of these mob bosses are hard to find at all, I doubt it. Penguin even went back to doing his usual stuff at the lounge even after all that happened. They just won’t go anywhere.

[@mog2182]

@@Thaibiohazard123 @Thaibiohazard123 No, the point is that they said he didnt care about lives, that is incorrect. His actions dont contradict his ideals, its literally the first batman who actively avoids killing people. The novel isnt part of the movie so its worthless to the discussion. It is an assumption to think there was a better time to get to the penguin, especially when theres a serial killer on the loose

[@qaysnsanja9485]

Maybe I’m reaching but that scene where Batman had to put his hand over Catwoman’s mouth to stop them from being heard & her erratic reaction being even more justified with the context we’re provided with later in the film.

[@jbkillinem2360]

Id love to see Black Mask come in and try to elevate the mob aspect in Batman to semi-supervillain levels. He would be a good foil for a newly established Penguin. Then in the 3rd movie the court of owls can come in like oh all of that didnt matter because we have always been in control.

[@devrayne6770]

I feel like Court of Owls should have at least been hinted at in this movie, leading them up to the third movie.

[@jbkillinem2360]

@@devrayne6770 i think it may have been. Mentioning the waynes and the arkhams at the tail end felt detached and out of place. Like that had very little to do with the current mob corruption of the city. Yes the waynes were kind of involved because of the restoration fund, but otherwise why would riddler fixate on them or care some dead guy had some reporter killed. I think that mightve been a small hint at the idea of wealthy powerful families being important in gotham.

[@greenman394]

I’m with this too, continue the war for the city with Black mask and Penguin fighting for control. Maybe even bring in the League of Assassins/Shadows?

[@devrayne6770]

@@jbkillinem2360 That’s a good point, I thought it was kinda odd that Thomas Wayne wanted to hush a journalist over his wife’s past mental state. It would be interesting to see that the Wayne family tree has ties to the court of owls but Thomas and Martha wanted to go against their corruption and as a result was killed for it.

[@anthonyanderson9303]

@@jbkillinem2360 I thought they were gonna have the reporter be riddlers father tbh

[@dctv1855]

Alfred stated he learned some tricks back in his days "in the circus". Alfred will be the link between Batman and Robin.

[@a_real_one2000]

I think one of the reason why we didn’t get too much into Bruce Wayne life is becuz. This version of the character doesn’t want to be Bruce. He believes the Batman is the only way to aid the city. It’s only by the end when he decides he has to be more then fear vengeful monster. This movie was so good. I really like it.

[@erockbaby3000]

This. Maybe in future movies he can actually learn/want to be “Bruce Wayne” while also being “Batman” as well

[@parkerboy795]

Reminds me of Batman Forever at the end where he states: "I'm Bruce Wayne and Batman not because I have to be. Because i chose to be."

[@kristinab3838]

You know when they were talking about the chase scene and killing a bunch of cops, I recently watched Gone in 60 Seconds and they went out of their way to show that the cops survived these horrific crashes as they were chasing the Nic Cage character. Literaly had a cop car get slammed by a wrecking ball and thrown throw a wall, and the cop driving it walks away!. The movie even made fun of itself and was like "Are you sure you're okay? You went through a wall?"

[@Paranormal718]

Two Face could totally work in this universe! And yes! I'm definitely down with a live-action adaptation of Scarface. How about Killer Croc? Or Black Mask?

[@GamingDrifterGD]

Why are people insinuating the explosion that occurred during the chase is Batman's fault? If I remember correctly, it was Penguin who caused the tanker to explode, the only thing Batman did was take advantage of the ramp. If he did not speed up, he would have died along with anyone else caught in the explosion.

[@theepicthree123]

When the Batman had its intro my theater was shaking more than any I’ve ever been to and it was absolutely an incredible experience

[@lewjones3]

I wanna see Clay Face, Mad Hatter, a black Harvey Dent/ Two Face, Condiment Man, Clock Guy, Phantasm King Tut

[@bigpoppa3999]

Opening monologue was perfection. And I really thought that was two face and not the joker. It really looked like the other half of his face was different.

[@monharris28]

I thought the same about two face

[@ladyhotep5189]

Yo I fell out when Corey hit us with the better help.🤣

[@deepwater4720]

The next couple of series will be leading up to the court of owls-- remember even the criminals didn’t say who was running the show they would rather die🤔

[@persianking44]

I've said it elsewhere and I'll say it here: I don't think Mr. Freeze can be pulled off in a much more grounded and realistic way as he is, but they could conceivably do it if they completely remove the "I need a special suit to survive in sub-zero temperatures" aspect of his, unless it's straight up treated as a symptom he made up because he's mentally ill rather than a real affliction, and swap his ice gun in favor of using some sort of chemical mix that mimics the effects of extreme hypothermia in his victims and/or throwing their bodies into a cold storage of some kind. That being said, I agree, I would love for him to finally get some of the spotlight as a solo villain.

[@LB-np5zv]

This is coming from the same universe as clayface remember

[@joshheralal8758]

Grounded doesn't necessarily mean realistic. A comic book accurate Mr. Freeze could work if they kept the serious tone. Reeves' POTA movies feel grounded while still having a talking chimp as the main character.

[@jacoborozco9412]

Thank you Chris for mentioning the maybe venom. I lost my mind when I saw that and whispered to my buddy that’s venom! Bane is my favorite Batman villain and I think you have another movie where it shows Bane in prison and showing that origin. It would be nice to see a prison system in the Matt reeves reality of this world

[@blackpanthro]

For real. Batman went ham on that thug after he injected himself

[@THE_BEAR_JEW]

Yep! I got that too. My girlfriend asked me what that was and I just told her it’s basically steroids with cocaine and one of Batman’s villains uses it.

[@anthonyleach7608]

I just wish we could get one Batman series where there is no joker.

[@uhuhuh1966]

FOR REAL

[@justinhearst]

FACTS

[@darthmisogyny3828]

I would love to see Manbat or deathstroke for the sequal

[@justinhearst]

@@darthmisogyny3828 Exactly what I was thinking, when it comes to deathstroke.

[@Gideon13397]

Preach. 🙌🏻

[@allanbroady2970]

Mr. Freeze is probably one on the hardest characters but probably one of the best batman villain. There has not really been that sympathetic villian in any batman movie the Schumacher films tried it but it was a bit campy for the darker tone of what Victor Fries is and how he could further evolve the character of batman as well. With that said especially since these are more like detective movies, we need a court of owls movie.

[@coralreef7246]

Honestly I'm still waiting for Man-Bat in a Batman movie. It can either be a really cool creature villian, or hilariously dumb. And I'm down for both

[@dominiquejones3805]

Enough time has gone by and after multiple watches I can honestly say this is my FAVORITE BATMAN FILM

[@biggerblue]

I loved the use of something in the way by nirvana in the movie. It set the tone so well.

[@dominiquejones3805]

My favorite Nirvana song

[@musicaleuphoria8699]

I loved it. Especially how the movie is enveloped in sheer darkness, to the point where bright light almost seems intrusive. Only thing I really wish, but it will probably never happen, is to push the movie into an R rating. There's just times some deaths that should have been more of a bloody mess.

[@fabzzpagano8635]

I don't know where it is going, but I hope Mr Freeze is the villain in the third... I hope the second one is more normal, the first one already presented a city-level threat that reminded me of the Dark Knight Rises... I would like Penguin to be the villain in the second, then Mr Freeze.

[@DetroitAlan01]

Making the Wayne’s corrupt redeems Batman, in my opinion. At some point, no matter how strong you’re in its grip, anger eventually runs out. Guilt, however, will always find a way to keep its foot up your ass. In flipping the Wayne’s like this, it becomes more believable Bruce Wayne would be unable to stop doing what he does. Just like with Peter Parker, it’s all about guilt and atonement. Anger fades, but those two will kill you or come damn close.

[@Slipknot4769]

I genuinely think this style of Batman film is the perfect time to do Mr. Freeze CORRECTLY. We've only had the ultra-campy Batman and Robin version which was entirely the wrong way to depict the character.

[@Slipknot4769]

However, this is a depiction of early career Batman. And the origin of Freeze involves them working together in the same lab, which Bruce isn't involved with yet. So they would have to change the origin.

[@Gideon13397]

@@Slipknot4769 I hope they do Victor Freeze as some sort of high profile, master diamond thief.

[@Paranormal718]

That would be incredibly interesting if the sequel has The Joker as a Silence Of The Lambs theme.

[@WhiskeyPete5]

That's not Batman chasing Penguin that's Vengeance. He becomes The Batman by the end.

[@Psmgamer]

I just watched The Batman and Robert Pattinson definitely was badass as Batman. Paul Dano as Riddler was creepy yet like how he bought his own take to the character. Zoey Kravitz as Selina Kylie was good. Definitely excited for The Batman 2 where it goes from the cliff hanger. Colin Farrell as Ozwell Cobblepot was amazing.

[@htowngogetta3508]

Y'all reviews be spot on like the long Halloween reference not a lot of ppl say that about this 💯 y'all good job!