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[@aaronman4772]

There’s something funny about Jurrac’s new strategy becoming big rock turbo. Because all dinosaurs want to just bring down the big rock that destroyed the dinosaurs, right

[@KuroeNezumi]

I mean...Jurracs do. Because they're so angry they can't kill stuff (Worms or Fabled, I forget which at that time) any other way, they decided they'd nuke the world to see if that does it.

[@ascriptmaster]

Yep it's literally in the Jurrac lore that they grouped together to BECOME the big rock and nuked their own land as a desperation move to drive off the Fabled

[@LexyKnight]

Logical extension of pop da baby

[@hazamax2139]

"Farfa laughs at pop da baby? Let's see him when we pop da world"

[@chaotixthefox]

That is how the Jurracs broke the Fabled war machine.

[@victheorize4939]

I don't care what MBT says Leviathan getting up from his gaming chair and actually doing something is the greatest moment for Fabled players

[@babrad]

If only my D/D.D overlords could also get up from their gaming chairs we would be meta -for more than 2 weeks-

[@johnsmovies287]

@@babradit was meta/rogue for like a whole format when the link 2 and the other wave of support was out

[@babrad]

@@johnsmovies287 You mean during Battle of Chaos (Machinex + Gryphon + Headhunt + Patent support, Gilgamesh came in DuOv). While it makes me happy you consider it meta/rogue, very few players actually gave it a chance. Pak using it was a welcome surprise. Sadly this again was about the first 2 (3 at best) weeks after release and hype died out yet again. Third time's the charm, the next wave will make us meta -COPIUM-

[@johnsmovies287]

@@babrad It got like 9 tops I'd definitely say it was Rogue, if not low Rogue.

[@ImMacke3000]

"FABLED!" -Douglas Zeeff 2023

[@arjanzweers6542]

Joseph really misjudged Fabledswarm Leverzebul. Negating the effects of the monsters it steals means it also works as a monster negate and not just a Crackdown.

[@kyounokaien]

yeah widow anchor but you keep the monster on a generic 10 seems pretty good

[@Effrenatus]

Potentially for more than one, card seems pretty damn solid

[@hedgelord4225]

He always does that though lmao. Same with Tenpai and others kek

[@hendrafour7824]

i agree that it seems like a good card, but doesn't crackdown do that as well?

[@arjanzweers6542]

@hendrafour7824 Not quite. Crackdown prevents the stolen monster from activating its effects or attacking. Once a monster activated its effect and you chain Crackdown to it, that effect will still resolve

[@halowaffle25]

On the topic of Mind Castlin - I don't think people really know how to evaluate a card like this. Synchros have been divorced from the concept of a utility toolbox for a long time in favor of being 15 combo pieces chilling out in the ED. While yes, Mind Castlin absolutely is a combo piece, It's also an absolutely incredible toolbox piece with a type of effect that has never ever been generic before. If I told you Konami was about to release 'A generic ED monster that optionally creature swaps your opponent up to 2 times', I think everybody's response would be that that card would be insane. But because the card's a synchro and not a link, the community has shrugged its shoulders at it.

[@YamaDolll]

I cant wait to see someone give Yajiro invader with mind castlin'

[@colossaldonut5190]

HE'S COMING

[@RaineBans]

i'll never forgive gcd for popularizing that purple mf jk i love gcd pls make new videos gcd

[@thenightspider]

Leverzebul is a generic level 10. Play deck that can summon level 10 synchros, summon Leverzebul, opponent activates monster effect, tribute Leverzebul and take control of that monster which will negate that effect. For many decks this card is a generic monster negate but for Fabled this is a monster negate that they can reuse.

[@Endershock1678]

What especially makes it nice is that it doesn't give the monster back. It's just yours now which can end turns and prevent annoying monsters from disrupting you later.

[@boosted_animal]

Mr. President there's been a third Jurrac Meteor

[@KuroeNezumi]

It frustrates me that it is basically indistinguishable when MBT is being willfully ignorant and when he's just being wrong for entertainment purposes.

[@WinterGuardianAsh]

“Jurrac’s are almost already viable” and “Crystrons support doesn’t fix the deck” were surely just trolling right?

[@gumgrapes]

That's why it's never going to stop. He needs to artificially preserve his credibility to push content in perpetuity. The only way he can do that while still giving analysis is by retroactively claiming that analysis wasn't sincere when it proves wrong. So everything has to be vaguely tongue-in-cheek. He's a yugioh Irony Bro now.

[@MrDanno]

@@gumgrapes it’s not that deep bro calm down

[@gumgrapes]

@@MrDanno Your mother's not that deep, mind your own.

[@cheapglass1432]

​@@gumgrapesReal

[@Jank_Enthusiast]

Honestly, the Crystron stuff is really good. Just suck their best boss monster option is...*checks notes*...F.A. Dawn Dragster and Infinity maybe

[@johnnywilson3071]

You can go into non-machines with the machine synchro tuners on the opponents turn, and you can end on Dragster and Infinity with a 1 card combo. Actually any 1-card rank 3 is a 1 card combo for Crystron via Cherubini.

[@Jank_Enthusiast]

Cherubini sounds good on paper (2 3's to send Smiger), but what combo of 3's are you getting out before hand that isn't already Smiger and Thystvern? Smiger+Almiraj seems good enough to start the combo as well as searchers like Eria and senders like Foolish/Tidal. ( It dawned on me that you could Terrortop+Taki but I'd still rather play Eria/Tidal. It is however, not a bad idea)

[@RaineBans]

pretty sure they can quick make trish. at least the level 9 one. i remember it from when hardleg played it in yugituber grand championship

[@johnnywilson3071]

@@Jank_Enthusiast Terrortop is the most favourable one, P.U.N.K has been touted because of the Foxy discard and crystrons being some of the best discard targets in the game. Genex Undine + Rosenix and Link Spider does it as well but Controller brick is ass. There's the phantom knights of torn scales another 1 card rank-3 that requires a discard but also gets you a fog blade. Dawn Dragster lowers its level so if you have access to Accel you can go into either, Return Zero (new genex boss monster that negates and destroys based on attributes in grave), Satellite warrior for a boardwipe or the new Fabled Synchro 10 or Chaos Angel.

[@JABRIEL251]

"Chat, have any of you read the old Jurrac cards?" Yes, and they DOGSHIT. Legit may actually be some of the most miserable pile of cards to ever be printed. The new support does a lot, but they need a complete overhaul. "What about Guaiba?" Guaiba is terrible! Just because it was played in dino-rabbit sometime during the Triassic period, that doesn't mean it is good now. I try to be nice to archetypes, I really do, but few archetypes have aged this poorly.

[@nonifuji1566]

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[@JABRIEL251]

@@nonifuji1566 Translation: "He's right, but I hate that he's right so I will just say a buzzword, because that is all I can do".

[@LG22475]

@@nonifuji1566 What are you on about? We judge cards on how good they are in MODERN Yugioh. That's what everybody does, and no, Jurrac was just way too weak before this new support to even be considered halfway decent, as cool as their artwork is.

[@LG22475]

Yeah, big L from MBT here. The old Jurracs are just all extremely slow and can barely special summon themselves at all. They basically are just "normal summon a guy and hope that you can beatover your opp's monster" the deck.

[@RanserSSF4]

I think giving dinos a backup plan in the form of a board nuke is really good since most of their main end boards going 1st is really weak to board breakers like DRNM, Droplet, Raigeki. Opponent has to play around it while dealing with your board at the same time, and since the board nukes can be done any time, you can save it for later in the game, which would make it strong in simplified game states.

[@qwertystop]

Doesn't have to be a backup - the Jurrac plan-A can now be triple Meteor. Just like most decks can't deal with three towers from Raidraptor, three board-wipes from Jurrac (the first one is one-sided, and all of them give you one tuner to at least start the followup) probably shuts down most things.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

@@qwertystop It just makes me think of Prank-Kids tbh. I fell out of the game around the time of Meow-Mu, but from what I understand their gameplan was/is still "I blow up the board 2-3 times in a row, and occasionally make Toadally Awesome". It has worked before, but we will see if that is good enough for today's game since it feels like most decks leave a few of their interruptions and recovery options off of field at all times.

[@leafgreenbeast]

jurrac astero: "the shiranui had to learn that style from someone didnt they?"

[@bluekirby_64]

I love seeing people's reactions to Jurrac Volcano, nobody expects the second rock.

[@ChristmasPterodactyl]

"Mr. President, a second rock has hit the field."

[@BuckysKnifeFlip]

Well then...what will you do about the 2nd one, Ohnoki!!

[@HoppouChan]

I love that the meteor off Volcano is just Nib

[@doctorecho3007]

I’m kind of hesitant because it’s a “when” effect, so it can’t be summoned in response to anything.

[@bluekirby_64]

@@doctorecho3007 The boardwipe is a mandatory effect, it can't miss timing even if it's a "when". Not sure about the summoning tuner part.

[@markogamingtv7030]

What is blud waffling about? I went thru every jurrac card and only thing i found was that i wasted my fucking time. Everything is pretty much:if this card is destroyed by battle, special a jurrac, if this card destroys something in battle, special a jurrac, if this card destroys something in battle, do x, or something dumb like, this card gains x amount of attack for every jurrac and can't be destroyed by battle

[@aaronabbey2604]

Jurracs need an effect that will convert being destroyed by effect into being destroyed by battle. Most of the searching and recruiting effects aren't once per turn. So the archetype can benefit from having the rock nuke the field.

[@rubberwoody]

That would see a lot of use against cards that can't be destroyed by effect ​@@aaronabbey2604

[@jamesredmond7001]

Guaiba specifically gets really nasty with lost world - played jurrac evolzars back when the new dino stuff came out c. 2017. The idea was lost world - ns any dino (ideally ovi, but anything would do), summon token, crash into token, trigger lost world for baby, baby summons guaiba, guaiba either kills the token or whatever the opponent has on field, guaiba then summons from deck, either itself or another jurrac (velo, dino, etc), and you've gone +2 off of a normally +1 play, that can immediately be turned into Dolkka/Laggia. Plus the jurrac tuners gave easy access to black rose. In the formats right after MR4, when the game slowed down significantly, that stuff was nasty. Now, do I think that could work today? Not nearly as well, no. But the new stuff allows you extension past the normal summon, something Dinos have historically struggled with, and the lines that Megalo specifically has with oviraptor are actually kind of nasty.

[@GranMaj]

Joseph just glossing over leverzebul in fact is not crackdown. Its more similar to draco future.

[@dp101]

Went and looked at every Jurrac card in the game after seeing what he said about the archetype's current distance to playability... what? They have 1 entire maindeck monster that doesn't purely relate to the battle phase, and all it can do is summon the other ones, which are basically war rocks in terms of the focus of their effects. I get that if you count generic support the deck could look good, except again there's just not a single jurrac card where putting it into dinos doesn't just make dinos strictly worse! All that playing it would do for you currently is let you trade a level 1 tuner in for a generic level 4 or lower dino that might as well be a vanilla. I'm just.. what?? I feel like he's biased because of observing the deck in nonstandard formats, it looks crazy in sealed for example, but I have no idea how someone with baseline competent yugioh knowledge would make a claim like this with such confidence. Honestly I don't even think the new cards are bad or anything, that's an entirely separate point, it's the bit about the deck being close that baffles me. And I have no idea what he wanted from the fabled boss if non-hopt mass non-targeting negation that also steals is considered not good enough of a boss... I know he's definitely a better player than I am on many levels, I'd be less confused by his opinions here if I *was* a hater.

[@garfrockbreadtroll]

darkworld fabled to the moon, the hand version of tear hath come

[@yaboyguzma6484]

all they gotta do for Theia is one line of card text baby: (This card is always treated as an "Elemental HERO" and "Favorite" card.)

[@thunderhogTH]

I've been trying to vouch for it, but all you have to run for stigo to be good is 2-3 Aeolo and the 3 new tuners. Have Stigo send Misc, summon 2 of each, Aeolo reborns stigo, makes the jurrac level 5, Second Aeolo reborns stigo, you have 1+4+5 for Level 10. If you draw an Aeolo you just pitch it for Megalo to draw 2. The problem is as MBT says, it requires you to not focus on Dino combo and all in on triple board nukes and a summon negate being enough.

[@jamesredmond7001]

You can go all in on transcendosaurus lines too - the extra deck monsters have stuff like recycling misc for protection next turn, so them plus the jurrac stuff plus uct would probably count as a decent end board.

[@johnnywilson3071]

The amount of misinfo on crystron his chat even incorrectly quoted Hardleg (For the record Hardleg said the support was insane for the deck but that Yubel and Snake eye azamina are both such ridiculous decks that it probably wouldn't matter anyway). The guy who said the deck bricks still clearly hasn't tested the deck as they aren't even out on Edopro and I'd bet 100 bucks they don't use anything other than EDOpro for testing. The pure version has over a dozen new 1 card starters thanks to the new support (Smiger himself, the spell, scrap recycler, any 1 card rank 3 not named beetrooper buggy) and then there's Runick Crystron which is a ridiculous variant of runick, for the first time since Naturia Runick we have a runick variant that puts serious board pressure on the opponent outside of the runick quick-plays.

[@babrad]

I believe they are on MDpro3 (similar to master duel). I knew about the basic new lines but Runick? Well well this got very interesting. Does it utilize the new genex synchro 10?

[@yunfanji]

The funny thing is that crystron never really bricked, it was just very lackluster. Any DL player would know, it only bricked when you drew all non-engine which is... basically every deck

[@romram7984]

This is what is called Telephoning. The classic game that, when I was in school, the teacher taught us it during a class They heard hardleg say that and tried to say it in a shorter way/quicker and it eventually becomes something else entirely

[@eu4um]

Dunning Kruger effect on full display here because Joseph has no fucking clue what he's talking about with Jurracs existing card pool. They have exactly 1 other playable main deck card in aeolo, and the deck doesn't have a counter trap.

[@__-be1gk]

real and true

[@LynnLyns]

I think he was referring to Impact, the board nuke

[@lamiaprincess6371]

"Jurrac are really close" insane words being said here. What the fuck. They have no good cards Aeolo was literally only played for being the only level 1 dino tuner

[@gageferrill110]

Well I'm pretty sure he means Dino in general, Because all the combos he talked about included the generic support

[@lamiaprincess6371]

@@gageferrill110 I mean he also said there was a Jurrac countertrap so I mean who can really say

[@tmscribble5889]

Guaiba was also super important in Dino Rabbit in 2012, even better than flamvell firedog and Shura because it triggers if it crashes into a 1700 monster. Rekindling is also an honorary jurrac card since it reborns 3 aeolo that tag into any other jurrac in grave. Velo is probably the best mystic tomato since it summons Guaiba and Aeolo. He might have been over exaggerating when they said that they were really close, but people saying that Jurrac have only ever had Aeolo shows how few people have played earlier formats since Dino Rabbit has an entire format named after it, and was one of the 3 best decks in Inzektor, Wind-up, Rabbit format. Are most of the cards bad by today's standards? Sure, they were printed 13/14 years ago. But they were by no means terrible cards when they were printed. They were very nearly almost meta for a short period of time, and in retro tengu plant format specifically are being explored as a potential meta deck

[@lamiaprincess6371]

@@tmscribble5889 Do not pull the "you didn't play older formats" card I know that Guaiba and Velo were decent cards for their time. Emphasis on the decent. Velo was not even consistently played in Dino Rabbit. There was also a brief stint where Jurrac Titano was a sideboard card against Burning Abyss in the mirror. I'm aware of the brief competitive history of a few cards in the archetype. Almost every single other card in the archetype was completely terrible and saw no play, even when they were printed. Dino, Monoloph, Protops, Stauriko, Spinos, Tyrannos, Velphito, Giganoto, Meteor, Gallim, Brachios. I could keep going if you want. There is, on the surface, a borderline playable deck with just Velo and Guaiba and maybe Aeolo/Dino, but it's entirely off the back of Guaiba being an OK version of Firedog. It was a textbook Duel Terminal archetype, where maybe one or two cards were individually good. This is like calling Mist Valley a good series of card because of Divine Wind and Apex Avian. Come on now.

[@tmscribble5889]

@@lamiaprincess6371 I think you're vastly underrating Guaiba as a card, it's a superior Firedog in most aspects except for it's attack stat which was mitigated by Lance and Shrink both being in the format by the time it saw relevance and was the only card you wanted to see in your hand in Dino Rabbit outside of Rescue Rabbit itself. It's superiority to Firedog or even Shura comes from the fact that it doesn't need to survive combat with a monster it kills (For example, Lance + Guaiba kills any 2500 body and gives you a Guaiba, otherwise it runs over both Dolkka and Laggia with Lance), it can crash into things and still summon another copy of itself leading to you having advantage not to mention it also gave access to the Rank 4 Dino XYZ engine which Firedog could only dream of, Guaiba become far more relevant than Firedog ever did. Even if Firedog is a Rekindling target, Aeolo is a Rekindling target which fetches Guaiba and to top it all off, it's searchable with Fossil Dig. Dino is a solid card hurt by the fact that it's 1700 and is otherwise a solid Tuner with a draw effect in a time where leaving your board open wasn't deadly Stauriko summoning 2 Tokens when destroyed by battle makes it an objectively worse Dandy, but that's still OK in a time where battle was still the main way of removing monsters. Herra is also another decent 1 of that works with cards like the aforementioned Stauriko or your set Aeolo giving you a 2300 body Velphito is an excellent, if situational level 5 Synchro that immediately kills flip monsters which while not particularly relevant by the time 2012/2013 came along, Ryko and Snowman Eater were still relevant in the format at the time. Giganoto has the ability to OTK and stacking multiple Giganoto together creates a critical mass of damage that makes all your Jurracs massive and removes the fact they're all slightly below the desired 1800/1900 body that you'd want them to be not an incredible level 7 synchro, but people were also playing Scrap Archfiend at that time because it was 2700 and there weren't many other good options, despite the fact it was a vanilla. The rest of them admittedly weren't very good, Meteor while being a better Black Rose, is resource intensive and is too difficult for the deck to make, Gallim is a weird level and your opponent being able to negate effect sucks and then the rest well... They only get much, much worse. That is still a farcry from Aeolo being the only good Jurrac ever and only being decent for it's level, let alone Jurrac not having a single good card in the archetype. Guaiba, Velo, Aeolo and maybe Dino are good maindeck options which is still 12/15 monsters and can absolutely be built around, Velphito is an infinitely superior choice to Magical Android and works well with Catastor and Giganoto is an above average level 7 in a time where there was only 1 good level 7 in Black Rose (And sometimes Ancient Fairy Dragon too, I suppose) It did far more than most Duel Terminal archetypes did purely for the fact that a single card saw any type of relevance in the meta at all, whether inside the deck or not Even if Guaiba was only there for being a Dino that summoned another Dino and it's a worse Rescue Rabbit, it was still the best option that existed at the time and was strong enough to help propel the deck to being best deck of 1 format, and part of the trio of best decks in the next format (Despite the fact that format is one of the worst formats in the history of the game, it was still a tier 1 deck) I would argue Aeolo has a worse track record than Guaiba does, even though it was used in True King Dinos, True King Dinos wasn't even the best deck of it's relevant format. Jurrac cards are all cards that were ALMOST excellent when they were printed. Stauriko is ALMOST insane like Dandy, Meteor is almost a better Black Rose, Herra is ALMOST a good battle trap like Gorz or Trag. Compared to a deck like Ice Barrier, Vylon, Genex, Steelswarm, Ally of Justice it's far superior. Granted it's nowhere near the best of the Duel Terminal; it can't even begin to be compared to something like Dragunity which as a complete deck was meta across multiple formats, Gem Knight which was one of the most consistent FTK strategies of all time, Sabres which were quite good after Edison format, Laval or Constellar which are both good choices in HAT format but to say the dinosaurs are all terrible is disingenuous in my opinion.

[@FujisakiChihiro55]

Seeing people try to send high level Dino with Stigo to summon a bunch of dogshit brick from the deck for synchro summon hurt my eyes so bad lol. Just send Misc and summon 2 Megalo and 2 Aeolo is enough to summon the level 10 synchro.

[@kotkafer2292]

Ok But think about how funny it is to send the transcendrake 12!!!

[@lucifero_il_gatto]

Could you ask the chef if he could make those jurac cards in ghoti flavor, please and thank you

[@nsiderultimaseth]

Good Ghoti normal summon when?

[@lucifero_il_gatto]

@@nsiderultimaseth lifeless is full combo if you use the nimble & tearlaments engine, but it is not a well known list, I think I have it, haven’t checked my cards in months

[@blueflamelta4000]

As someone whos loved Jurrac since I got back into the game in 2020 (I have an IRL pure Jurrac deck and got to masters with pure Jurrac) its amazing to hear that someone else thinks Jurrac is almost there for being decent. And also the fact that the new cards are actually good and seem fun to interact with the old cards

[@Merilirem]

Mind Castlin is VERY interesting to Chaos Synchro. Not a lot of light/dark Synchro's to compete for slots.

[@holstonmatt]

Also there just a lot of chessy stuff you can do with the second effect, the second effect act as a better give and take

[@pablodiaz2278]

I see potential with Heavy Poly thanks to Muddy Mudragon. Muddy can substitute a name from the materials and would cost you just 500 lps. You could, for example, run 3 Clorless + 1 Muddy in a darkworld deck having access to a 1 card boardwipe if opponent has 3 or more monsters on board, still paying only 500 lps

[@cr4pokemon21]

It also has generic use with Coordius the Triphasic Dealmon. All of its materials reside in the ED, and can pop up to three cards, basically meaning you can get a one card Guardian Chimera in exchange for a few ED slots.

[@babrad]

Fusion substitute effects apply only on hand/field/gy. You can see the latest errata for King of the Swamp for it, also there is a ruling on how it doesn't work in the other locations.

[@pablodiaz2278]

@@babrad Really? Well then, that's a bummer

[@ConspoAlt]

hes trolling when he says jurrac was close right he knows that every old jurrac card except for 1 does nothing right

[@absoul112]

Heavy poly seems okay to me. Like it seems deck specific and only “good” going second, but I can see some decks running it.

[@phoenixvance6642]

What 3 mat fusions would start showing up because of it? Zarc? Chaos ancient gear giant? I genuinely dunno and am not being snarky

[@ThatPonyFan]

Theia, the Primal Being is clearly a follow-up or combo piece to be used with Nibiru; Nib wipes the opponent's field and then you lock down their turn with Theia immediately afterwards and pop their token. Edit: It's still not good, but it has an intended use to it.

[@labibmuhammad4789]

I agree with MBT's opinion on Jurrac. it goes crazy for auto farming in DL with Rex's skill to set Jurassic World

[@yunfanji]

Crystron support gives it: A way to play without relying entirely on normal summon of unsearchable non-engine. Extenders. 1 card combos A way to take advantage of cherubini and other 3 engines like adventure and terrortop A new spell and trap to search with smiger Protected endboards that are actually interactive Follow-up basically every turn MBT: "this doesn't fix the deck" Edit: To be fair, it was mostly the chat spreading misinfo as usual

[@mopsik56]

"What do you mean "they are good NOW?!" Fabled was always good!" - Dzeef, probably

[@fearjunkie]

....there has to be a way to make Z-Arc with Heavy Polymerization.

[@halyoalex8942]

I mean if you’re ballsy enough and you go second you can just banish the four dragons to summon him 😂😂😂

[@LynnLyns]

Meteor eff: *vine boom*

[@minifeebas8911]

heavy polymerization has hella nice synergy for darklords it just yknow doesnt fucking have darklord in the name so it isnt properly searchable

[@Dr.Barber]

Man we're gonna be celebrating the 25th until the 30th ain't we.

[@xzephershadowkick7817]

So the primal being is ment to be played after Nibiru, seeing as how it's a lvl11 you summon. Then once you summon this guy, you pop the token you gave them and they can't summon anymore.

[@LG22475]

Yep. You can also use it to somewhat counter an opposing Nibiru by Tributing the token and popping their Nibiru, which at the very least gives you a flood gate for the next turn. Not an amazing card but not nearly as bad as MBT makes it out to be.

[@garfrockbreadtroll]

it be just crackdown, but it also do be a generic lvl 10, so itll prolly see use

[@ZackSavage]

non targeting monster negate seems p good to me. also not HOPT, most combos are at a minimum setting up 3 activations of it along with unchained and negates all off of one card with the ability to play through handtraps. It interacts very favorably against Yubel and Snake-eye. Ritual beast is the only deck in the meta with unfavorable interactions.

[@hbenensky]

Jurrac about to have the worst Garnet to draw ever with stigo

[@darkolos5836]

and the Dino pile keeps getting bigger....

[@kurisu2003]

You failed to realize that you can do this on your opponents turn at any point during their main phase. So when they are about to go into battle you can just synchro summon this monster use it's effect tribute off any number of fables even itself. Then it takes all your opponents stuff. Clearly being unaffected will help but if they take your board before your finish a combo. You will have to end your turn.

[@e_pffne4190]

He hasn't heard about the double polymerization yet

[@Merilirem]

I do wish Fabled had an ACTUAL boss. Like one that could fight stuff itself.

[@ArisePass]

People like mbt is why I feel the need to keep my yugioh hobby a secret.

[@evilAstarte]

after reading the existing jurrac monsters I am convinced that MBT is insane about them being close. New support is great, but the existing main deck guys are garbo.

[@derek8134]

Can't wait for every card MBT says is going to suck to be staples and every card MBT says is going to be amazing is going to be mid. Btw not hating but you have a history of this

[@brokenboundry636]

"Sir, the dinosaurs have thrown a second big rock."

[@__-be1gk]

Does Doug even actually like anything about Fabled or is it just a meme from some series that he's keeping up forever for engagement

[@chaotixthefox]

I recall that he said does like Fabled and had once considered how to make them work many years ago in one of his videos with MBT as a brief answer to a chatter.

[@SpireTheSlay]

@@chaotixthefox also lets be honest, Fabled ARE actually interesting as a concept... its just most are kinda bad because they care about other fabled cards. Like Fabled Unicorn was the first actual "spell speed 5" negate. Not many cards can actually say they negate super poly. They have a bunch of randomly cool cards. 1 extra deck monster, 1 main deck monster that just says you cant negate me and I stop you negating anything this turn when discarded, and 1 insane spell card is basically all they need to actually make them randomly appear.

[@dk8101]

I've been looking all over, where on earth can I find that RJTM Dragon Soup deck with the Jurrac monster?

[@Solidwake]

Melffy likes the synchro card. Trade cards in hand to make it to then take their strongest monster or key piece.

[@anonymous112]

Bruh did someone really say anti evenly when seeing the trap for crystrons?!?!?! I thought by now it's common knowledge at this point evenly is action removal 😅😅😅😅

[@Merilirem]

I am so excited for the chaos synchro pile Konami is cooking up with all these various decks. I WILL break it one of these days. Mark My words. Unless they keep banning all the best ones of course.

[@Terradragoon]

Heavy poly wouldn't be so terrible if the number of good (or even usable) banish effects on extra deck monsters weren't microscopic. I think the only one that does something substantial that isn't blocked by summoning limitations is...infernoid evil, which is once per turn so you can't dump 3 copies for 3 "void" spell/traps. The next best options are an ocg fusion and a shiranui card that...level mod a light/dark dragon or reduce an opponent's monster's atk by a whopping 500 respectively. Makes you wonder if they have something in store to absolutely break it or if it was just overbalanced.

[@cherrycreamsoda4253]

I hope alliance insight is duelist alliance because that means new shaddoll cards. and I’d love for them to get some new cards, especially fusions and maybe some links. Maybe an archetypal super poly?

[@mrjghostbell3807]

Bro that fusion Spell going 2nd is insanly broken. Imagine using it in shiranui, banish the Level 5 shiranui Synchro, use eff of fusion monster, chain block eff of shiranui, summon a Token. Boom.

[@katzuma7641]

Spoon is a dude btw

[@squeaksqueakimaknight]

It's CRAZY that the new Crystron cards are just seen as "fine". And what did MBT want these new support do other than support the Decks core game plan. Be a new Floodgate? A Negation Spammer?

[@Monster_Hunter-rn2dk]

Hi, I’m the chatter that MBT read regarding it at 18:56. The cards are crazy good don’t get me wrong. The issue is that the card that enable these combos off of 1 card is Exactly Inclusion. Sulfudhole needs another Crystron Card on field and Sulfenir needs a Crystron in hand. And these are all VERY easy choke points for negates. They can pop off into a lot of cards but since their main deck tuners can only synchro into machines your only options into cards outside of that restriction are in the form of Quandax and Accel Synchron. Which are good, but the further you go into it the tighter the Extra deck. I personally run a Superheavy Samurai package for Easy Crimson Dragon access before you lock into machines for the turn. You could also elect to run handtraps or board breakers. Like I said in the chat. Easy to interrupt and prone to bricking.

[@apollyon1311]

"What did mbt want these new support do" Save the archetype not keep it drowning until new support is revealed. I genuinely have seen people go into cyber infinity with the new support (I can't remember the last time I've seen infinity outside of cd)

[@babrad]

@@apollyon1311 ABC (Galaxy Wizard) and Raidraptor (Soul Shave Force): First time?

[@romram7984]

Tbf he did start by saying "I don't know how good crystrom is", but yeah if I had to guess, probably a negation spammer/special summon your whole deck with 1 card Which tbf, feels like alot of the current meta cards are exactly that

[@tylerdean7846]

Not hard once negate and yoink seems pretty good to me joeseph. Two of the tens and the 4 for Target protection plus to weenies for tribute cost fodder and you permanently keep the monsters

[@jerrimyhealy5063]

I'm actually crying

[@yaboimorrissey5273]

If Heavy Poly sent the monsters from Extra to GY instead of banishing them, the card would've been a bit better bc then you could utilize the Extra Deck monsters that have effects in GY or have effects when sent to GY like N'tss, Skull Knight, Aggregator, Herald of Arc Light, etc.

[@shadowviscane1]

im really excited for fable support. i've loved this deck since it came out and can't wait to dust it off

[@tcsgaming8508]

Honestly I see the new rock monkey as a way to recover if you have been hit by the rock

[@maciejrejowski4682]

You can alos summon Jurrac Astero with Stigu using lv 4 as target, you summon 4 lv 1s, 2 Megalo, and 2 Aeolo. After that you tribute Aeolo to ss Stigo from gy, then synchro into lv 5 Jurrac Velphito, agian use secon Aeolo to summon Stigo again and finally Using Lv 5, Lv 4 and Last Megalo. Best targetslv 4s are Misc Kaitoptera or Giant Rex.

[@tinfoilslacks3750]

"It's also a i" It's also All In

[@nickd6303]

So juracc/dino just needs a way to get meteor back into the extra deck.

[@bluekirby_64]

Monster Reincarnation tech here we come

[@thatotheratrocity]

Jurac stigo in 9 words: soul charge from deck, but with a dino lock

[@kataphrut7740]

There’s a roughly 50/50 split as to whether Alliance Insight refers to Duellist Alliance, meaning Odd-Eyes, or AI, meaning @Ignister.

[@dylanbimberg]

I feel like it'll be both. Like how rage of the abyss has shark cards and six samurai stuff bc ROTA

[@zestyflamingo]

where do I find the fabled spreadsheet?

[@Noojtxeeg]

Fabled is kinda freestyle combos tbh.

[@warriorofgod2700]

Rush duels has some great artwork, proving that ocg/tcg should have 0 problem having these kinds of artwork as chase cards/collectibles

[@pretzelcatgaming8494]

so fun fact: paladins of bonds and unity can be used as part of an ftk because one of the materials you can use to summon it is aslla piscu so you can do some shit with black garden, summon piscu, summon a tuner and then burn for 4k by making this card. also, really like fabled but the new synchros have some of the fruitiest designs we've seen yet from them :)

[@eclipseballad]

I was getting an idea for a burn deck around the new jurracs. Effect damage around the nuke effect of meteor and dark room of nightmare. I just have to find the bridge between them.

[@killerkurez]

When you can go Robina, Eaglen, Empen....outs Theia. Sad faces

[@russellhumphrey5209]

that jurrac synchro is silly. sets a negate, IS a negate and is like "damn, you outed my board. just get evenly'd idiot"

[@sjaakbakker9944]

He likes jurac? "Pop da baby"

[@aldolibreri791]

The synchro is a summon negate and TWO BOARD WIPES. The only main deck Jurrac card you need to play in Dino’s is one Jurrac Impact.

[@lordflarus]

Theia is the Primal Being One player Nibs, then you Theia the Nib or the Token depending on which end you got hit

[@phoenixvance6642]

Is "circular" a part of the yugioh player vernacular the same way as "garnet" and "towers" are as a term for a starter that does everything by itself?

[@peekay120]

Jeez, Rush Duel cards actually look so cool, I wish all yugioh cards looked like that

[@marky4627]

Duality is actually good for ancient gears in rush duel because they don't special summon at all.

[@emanuelstornello8009]

That fabled combo reminded me of infernity for some reason

[@dannyharrell4818]

Wait a tick... There's not a single type of OPT on the First and Third effect of Jurrac Astero and it's second effect is a soft OPT... This present possibilities

[@Frido19]

Jurrac support releasing on 9/11 "Sir, a second Meteor has hit the board"

[@GeneralNickles]

List of "noteworthy" monsters that heavy poly can summon using only material from the extra deck: 1. 5 headed dragon 2. Quintet magician 3. Barbaroid 4. Z-ARC 5. Divine neos Feel free to add more in replies, because so far this list isn't impressive.

[@colossaldonut5190]

Crystrons getting their first spell means Nekroz will get its first trap

[@Merilirem]

Floodgates shouldn't exist. Just ban all those giftable cards.

[@Bigparr43]

Duality is still mostly shit in Rush because there is still enough draw power and searching that it is not necessary unless you're playing a purely tribute focused deck. they do exist and are viable, but there are much better options for those decks

[@mudjumper]

Heavy poly turns vision hero trinity into a generic link 2 In master duel, of course

[@zabier954]

Could the 3rd effect of Jurrac Volcano say no to Jurrac Meteor? Ya know, the thing that Jurrac Volcano could also summon. Could it not just be Raigeki+Harpie's Feather Duster instead of Black Rose Dragon?

[@Astin-D]

Douglas must have paid several premiums to get these new fable support lol

[@zerorequiem1054]

I wonder if they'll release new Worms and allied of justice next

[@Arcadia_warlic]

Disappointed that the new Jurrac cards have almost nothing to do with the original Jurrac play-style aside from tying into Meteor, and even then I feel spamming it is not really in-keeping with the theme, and instead is turned into Fire King Dinosaurs alongside the rest of the type. I would have preferred at least one card mention in effect "1700 ATK".

[@chaotixthefox]

The original playstyle in question: "If this card is destroyed by battle..."

[@Arcadia_warlic]

@@chaotixthefox I would say it also incorporated 1700 ATK itself as a gimmick, or attacking as with Monoloph, Dino, Guaiba, Iguanon, and Spinos, and other monsters that support attacking in general. Obviously these are both outdated, but I would rather they try to modernize it rather than homogenize the archetype to the point of losing its identity.

[@romram7984]

Tbh, idk much about how jurrac plays. But it kinda sounds like they either need a card that makes the battle phase better (as I've heard many say battle phase effects aren't as good as they used to be) Or a card that, when they destroy a jurrac, makes it so it's by battle. Maybe you need to enter battle phase to activate it or something

[@Arcadia_warlic]

@@romram7984 Sure, and I would prefer that kind of revamp instead of the self-destruct gimmick.

[@KingRoni1222]

The new Heavy Poly is hilariously applicable in the stupid ass Armed Dragon Catapult Cannon Turbo deck. Why would you ever, idk, funny banish boardnuke and grave delete ALSO YOU CAN LOOP THE NEW BOSS MONSTER WITH TREASON WHICH IS SEARCHABLE

[@wierdtromebonekid]

Im hype about the jurrac stuff

[@markogamingtv7030]

Problem with the jurrac cards imo is that you get locked out of evolzars with stigo. Ok but you get the board wipes, which like idk, you are wiping yourself also, so how much follow up do you have to otk next turn

[@eldavid8774]

Old dino players: if i use this spronglosaurus to pop the flurgusraptor i can end in 18.25 negates and otk next turn, you can easily see it in my 150 tab excel spreadsheet for 200 dollars. New dino players: grug oponent summon too many monster, grub throw rock at opponent so he no summon, if grug plan fail grub use more rocks

[@mattbaltimore7195]

Crystron community still remember the "Smiger" incident....... 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@dracoblizzard7944]

When MBT says Jurrac is almost playable, he means Dinosaurs in general, right? The reason these cards are so broken is that THERE ISN'T A SINGLE GOOD JURRAC CARD IN EXISTENCE other than Meteor.

[@Bob12649]

Just jurrac

[@rubberwoody]

Fabled is the best dark world support