Here's Why I Can't Get Excited About New Supercars

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Doug DeMuro

Doug DeMuro

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@nopybooja5495
@nopybooja5495 7 сағат бұрын
Wao! Who knew Miata owners were right all along. Is not about how fast or expensive the car is, it’s how it makes you feel 🤯
@mikeydude750
@mikeydude750 2 сағат бұрын
It's gonna be a sad day when they stop making the Miata
@MuseumStandard
@MuseumStandard 2 сағат бұрын
@@mikeydude750 You shut your mouth. *hugs miata*
@LTMCMedia
@LTMCMedia 28 минут бұрын
Proud owner of a 92 NA6, I feel morally obligated to say, Miata Is Always The Answer.
@foragingadventures
@foragingadventures 9 сағат бұрын
as soon as the car brands realised they could print money with special edition supercars, it was over
@samuelmidzi8240
@samuelmidzi8240 6 сағат бұрын
Yes. Special editions used to be cars build for homologation for racing.
@dotancohen
@dotancohen 3 сағат бұрын
Goodhart's law: When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure
@IAmOHMSS
@IAmOHMSS 3 сағат бұрын
Fueled by Instagram flexing and low interest rates
@georgiadriven
@georgiadriven 2 сағат бұрын
I think they’ve always realized that, it’s a business after all
@comeberza
@comeberza 2 сағат бұрын
To be fair, that is not how it happened. Companies actually worked and tried HARD to make these profitable. The veyron was a financial well, McLaren can't make money, Aston is burning the especial models, etc
@John-q5p9m
@John-q5p9m 8 сағат бұрын
I've said this for years--I hate the fact that some car company makes 20 of a car, it sells out within minutes, meanwhile you didn't even know it was coming out. If you have 100x the money, you still can't buy one because you didn't buy the previous 19 models from that manufacturer. Then, the people that buy these cars never drive them. You might as well buy a painting.
@aulto
@aulto 6 сағат бұрын
It makes the whole supercar world/buying process even more cliquey & tribalistic, along with making the cars unattractive from a consumer perspective. I couldn’t hear about the car till it was sold out. If I did hear about it, I would’ve needed to buy 5 of the same make earlier in my life to even be “considered eligible” to buy it (as if money isn’t enough), the list goes on…. it begs the question; Why should I give a crap?
@acadiaarchitecture3170
@acadiaarchitecture3170 6 сағат бұрын
Of course we don't know if they really never drive them...
@Jimmyjonesjunior
@Jimmyjonesjunior 6 сағат бұрын
@John-q5p9m couldn't agree more. I feel bad for car guys that have to have a stressful career to get the money they need for their cars, only to find out they're not a good "image" or whatever for the brand. Ducati only just started doing this.
@americansmark
@americansmark 6 сағат бұрын
It's called money laundering through automotive art.
@petercozzaglio6070
@petercozzaglio6070 5 сағат бұрын
Whenever Ferrari releases a new special super car, I’m sure that David Lee gets a call.
@EmetYAHU
@EmetYAHU 8 сағат бұрын
3:01 like “The Incredibles” Syndrome said- “When every (car) is super, NONE of them are…”
@trungluu6652
@trungluu6652 7 сағат бұрын
lol so true. A 2025 with a manual transmission feels more special than a lot of these super and hyper cars
@iamnotbabyblue
@iamnotbabyblue 9 сағат бұрын
Doug the type of guy to go “Hmph… Mimimimimi” when sleeping
@metropcs1099official
@metropcs1099official 9 сағат бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂 funny
@Wheatybic
@Wheatybic 9 сағат бұрын
that's so dumb LMAO hahaha
@cars291
@cars291 8 сағат бұрын
This is getting old real quick
@fredericoespinoza
@fredericoespinoza 8 сағат бұрын
@eliaswilson7911
@eliaswilson7911 8 сағат бұрын
@@cars291Doug the type of guy comments have been around for at least 8 years
@jakethesnake4971
@jakethesnake4971 4 сағат бұрын
This whole video isn't only about cars in my opinion. It's honestly about most things that we consume in the world today. There's so much of everything that not much is special anymore.
@MrDeepseadweller
@MrDeepseadweller Сағат бұрын
Underrated comment
@e39m5_hater
@e39m5_hater 37 минут бұрын
excessive commercialization is definitely one factor (see the current NBA/NFL)
@bradyhuggins4274
@bradyhuggins4274 8 сағат бұрын
Couldn’t agree more. Super cars no longer are made for enthusiasts. They just pander to clout chasers.
@XxpunchbeardxX
@XxpunchbeardxX 7 сағат бұрын
You're not wrong. Supercar Ron said that Ford wouldn't sell him a new Ford GT because he had no social media presence at the time. Absolutely ridiculous.
@jbc242424
@jbc242424 6 сағат бұрын
​​@@XxpunchbeardxX that's kinda infuriating.
@Pepe-dq2ib
@Pepe-dq2ib 6 сағат бұрын
My Tesla Model 3 could beat any of these supercars and i hear you can get a brand new for $30k after rebates.
@Tacgibs
@Tacgibs 5 сағат бұрын
@@Pepe-dq2ib From 0 to 60 maybe, but consider any other point and your model 3 is inferior ;) Talking about chassis, brakes, sensations, esthetics, prestige... You're not buying a Patek Philippe to know the time ;)
@lewis7515
@lewis7515 5 сағат бұрын
​@@Pepe-dq2ib Literally nobody who buys one of these cars, could have any interest. They don't care if you fly past them at Warp 9 - because when you arrive, wherever it is you're going, you arrive in a Tesla. When, they, arrive - even if it's hours later - they arrive in a Ferrari. And their destination is much more likely to be somewhere like Scarsdale, or Monaco, or Shirokane, or Knightsbridge... You're not even talking the same language as people who buy these cars. Do you seriously think the target demographic for these cares is thinking, "I could have gotten a Tesla"?.. They don't even know you exist, in your Tesla - and could care even less.
@Andromahlius
@Andromahlius 8 сағат бұрын
As an old guy, one of the differences is today we can see the cars all day long on youtube. I think I saw ONE supercar in my first 25 years other than in photography. Today we have weird dudes with two tshirts doing revs on video.
@shanekeenaNYC
@shanekeenaNYC 5 сағат бұрын
Modern day car culture has way too many pomeranians and way too little rottweilers.
@vipergtsr
@vipergtsr 2 сағат бұрын
This has definitely contributed to it as well. I remember how special it used to be seeing a Ferrari in the wild, now you go on KZbin and Instagram and there's thousands upon thousands of videos that ruin the 'surprise' in a way.
@falcongamer58
@falcongamer58 7 сағат бұрын
Other than the flaw of battery longevity, the Bugatti Tourbillion still feels special because it has many unique qualities as opposed to the next V8 hybrid hypercar
@thedumbconspirator4956
@thedumbconspirator4956 5 сағат бұрын
I'm pretty sure the battery will last longer and will require less maintenance than the v16 component
@xx-----------xx873
@xx-----------xx873 4 сағат бұрын
Who cares mate really who cares
@falcongamer58
@falcongamer58 4 сағат бұрын
@@xx-----------xx873 42 people. Your comment is redundant. Say something useful
@XxApo70xX
@XxApo70xX 4 сағат бұрын
@@thedumbconspirator4956 I HIGHLY doubt it ever will :D
@falcongamer58
@falcongamer58 4 сағат бұрын
@@thedumbconspirator4956 less maintenance than the V16, but lasts way shorter
@Al-vl3tp
@Al-vl3tp 8 сағат бұрын
The Gordan Murray T50 is going to be the best car overtime! Lightweight, Manual V12, Revs to 12,000 RPM! That is going to be a special car!
@peedeegt
@peedeegt 6 сағат бұрын
Apart from the fact it’s almost the ugliest created of the last 10 years. Truly awful.
@web
@web 5 сағат бұрын
@@Al-vl3tp Got that fugly fan at the back though. T33 will age much better
@apexerman1
@apexerman1 5 сағат бұрын
Yep, that one qualifies. Like Doug, I'm not terribly enamored with hypercars for most of the reasons he mentioned, but the T.50 pushes the visceral thrill buttons handily.
@rocketlaunch99
@rocketlaunch99 4 сағат бұрын
It is so ugly from the rear.
@fatbardh2
@fatbardh2 3 сағат бұрын
Except for the fact that is average looking in the front, and very ugly at the back
@somebody9785
@somebody9785 9 сағат бұрын
Doug is the kind of guy who gets more excited by a Pontiac Aztek than a supercar 😮
@dazzlingd
@dazzlingd 8 сағат бұрын
TBH so do I.
@sdalexander8505
@sdalexander8505 8 сағат бұрын
Well yeah. He’s made it pretty clear that he values quirky cars over the same features that every car has. And the Aztek is one of the weirdest cars ever made.
@jordanplays-transitandgame1690
@jordanplays-transitandgame1690 7 сағат бұрын
If an Aztek and a 911 Turbo S (they all look the same anyways) stand together im looking at the Aztek
@sabraitis
@sabraitis 6 сағат бұрын
Doug is the kind of guy that has a point. A damn good point.
@CateChapelle
@CateChapelle 5 сағат бұрын
The kind of person who buys an Aztek because they want to is probably more interesting than the kind of person who buys a supercar because they can afford it.
@mbeachtantrum
@mbeachtantrum 4 сағат бұрын
"I've got it boiled down to a rather long list." Don't ever change, Doug.
@velkovskinikola2
@velkovskinikola2 4 сағат бұрын
I prefer it when doug films a regular car that is somehow an oddball. Like a european car you guys in america didnt get or a car that was a commercial failure, or a limited edition of some average family car from the 80s or 90s
@Sh4dowgale
@Sh4dowgale 9 сағат бұрын
I get more excited by older cars in good condition. I'm 25, and I wasn't able to drive or even be in most of the older cars when they were new. So seeing one in really good condition makes me so happy.
@AhmedMJ97
@AhmedMJ97 9 сағат бұрын
@@Sh4dowgale especially if it was with the original owner since new, low miles & no modifications at all. Even if it was an economy car, I would truly respect it.
@Sh4dowgale
@Sh4dowgale 8 сағат бұрын
@AhmedMJ97 Exactly!
@Jonathan-jp4zz
@Jonathan-jp4zz 8 сағат бұрын
I will take 1999 honda civic si anyday than newer type r.
@insaneconqueror5421
@insaneconqueror5421 7 сағат бұрын
​@Jonathan-jp4zz Amen brother!
@Flared
@Flared 8 сағат бұрын
Completely agree with Doug's first point, the sheer quantity of these cars is making them less special, but so is exposure and publicity of them thanks to the internet. It's not that the new ones are bad, I bet they are amazing to drive. But back in the mid-to-late 90s when I was also a kid, you had like a half dozen proper supercars (Diablo, F40, F50 etc) and even less hypercars (McLaren F1, CLK GTR, etc). Therefore, they became almost legendary as you pretty much never saw one, and without KZbin seeing one featured on TV was a treat. I remember seeing a yellow Diablo in the late 90s in a showroom and I couldn't believe how wide it was. A few years later I got up close to a F40 in the same place, and I still remember seeing the carbon fibre weave through the thin paint to this day. But with KZbin, you can see everything you ever want to know or see on pretty much any new car.
@WarrenVanRoss
@WarrenVanRoss 7 сағат бұрын
This is 100% accurate.
@GTC4cam
@GTC4cam 7 сағат бұрын
This is the same reason everyone bought Ferraris in red back then. You never saw any Ferraris ever, at all. So there was no, “they’re all red”. “They all” meant maybe once per year for a fleeting moment, or if they were on TV or in a movie.
@jordanplays-transitandgame1690
@jordanplays-transitandgame1690 7 сағат бұрын
100% accurate, that's why they kids put the posters on their walls. For us now those posters is basically KZbin.
@sambone8213
@sambone8213 5 сағат бұрын
in the 90's we had to experience cars through magazines and movies. hard to explain the excitement of actually spotting one in the wild - no cars and coffee back then!
@IAmOHMSS
@IAmOHMSS 3 сағат бұрын
In the 90s you'd even buy a magazine just to have a few photos of an F50.
@biznatcho7
@biznatcho7 7 сағат бұрын
Aero made all of the hypercars look the same outside, touchscreens made them look the same inside, and hybrid tech/regulations made them sound/feel worse.
@noumena9463
@noumena9463 33 минут бұрын
taking too much care about aero is literally unimportant. having at least speed of 300 km/h is enough.
@HG504X
@HG504X 9 сағат бұрын
The special factor has definitely decreased. The overall reception to the Ferrari F80 and Mclaren W1 has been poor and their powertrains aren't all that exciting either compared to others.
@Don-pk2uy
@Don-pk2uy 6 сағат бұрын
Because both are hideous looking. Rather just twin turbo a lambo and smash both for a 10th of the price
@guidourados
@guidourados 8 сағат бұрын
15:45 even the Chiron. When you talk about it you still remember the W engine, the crazy turbos.. meanwhile half of the others super/hypercars you just can't connect or care if they are hybrids or EV.
@imaginarium9923
@imaginarium9923 9 сағат бұрын
Bring back the rich parents vid!
@celcius_87
@celcius_87 8 сағат бұрын
Wait did he take it down?
@nickkerr6068
@nickkerr6068 8 сағат бұрын
I have the video on my channel
@borlean4691
@borlean4691 8 сағат бұрын
@@celcius_87 cause it was cringe and people made fun of him
@bleuebloom
@bleuebloom 7 сағат бұрын
he shouldn’t have listened to the haters :(
@riba2233
@riba2233 7 сағат бұрын
@@borlean4691 it was ok
@captainswagalicious
@captainswagalicious 8 сағат бұрын
As a 20 year old guy who’s fairly new to the car community, I own a 2001 celica GTS and to tell you the truth no one really wants the most expensive fastest car on the market anymore. What’s cooler than ever is niche interest cars that are tailored to your specific taste and what fits your vibe. Some people just don’t make sense driving certain cars and it’s like every hyper car manufacturer assumes a ton of people will buy these when it’s really only a few people. This is why they’re thinking of bringing back older models like the celica, or the Honda prelude potentially in 2025. People like the in between cars and just durable solid made vehicles.
@sambone8213
@sambone8213 5 сағат бұрын
I'm 41 and remember a young salesman letting my best friend and I take a new 6spd Celica GTS for a spirited drive in 2001. It was a great car and left a deep impression on us. And the rivalries between cars like the Integra, Celica, Prelude, etc, were all so exciting at the time.
@zbou23
@zbou23 45 минут бұрын
[me in my '86 spider]
@darrylmoore5847
@darrylmoore5847 8 сағат бұрын
I couldn’t agree more. I would much rather own or see a video on the beautiful Mercedes behind Doug than 99% off the new super/hyper cars.
@michaelfjmusic
@michaelfjmusic 6 сағат бұрын
I feel like nearly every supercar nowadays follows the exact same formula: 1. Twin-turbo F**ING AD NAUSEAM (N/A and S/C engines are practically nonexistent now) 2. V8 or V6 3. Hybrid 4. Rear mid-engine 5. Automatic DCT or SCT There's absolutely no variety anymore. All of these cars or the same. The twin turbo V8 has done to cars what the Marshall 4x12 has done to heavy metal guitar: it was so good that everyone used it until it got bland and monotonous.
@bwofficial1776
@bwofficial1776 5 сағат бұрын
And, infinite special editions that are somehow more special than the last special edition.
@bobthebandit3091
@bobthebandit3091 4 сағат бұрын
If you factor the “or”s in the items you listed, there are 40 distinct combinations ignoring there are a bunch of N/A and S/C cars (C8 Z06, Emira to list one of each) Adding those 2 options, it now makes 120 distinct combinations in the 5 categories you listed. Enough for you?
@ufukonurtezel7768
@ufukonurtezel7768 3 сағат бұрын
​@bobthebandit3091 there is the mixed transmission konigsegg too
@Kodiak97x
@Kodiak97x 8 сағат бұрын
One car that I don’t think suffers from this, although probably because it’s more of a sports-car than a supercar, is definitely the GT3RS, and other RS Porsche cars. Somehow every new generation of that car gets crazier and crazier and I love it.
@jordanplays-transitandgame1690
@jordanplays-transitandgame1690 7 сағат бұрын
Imo it doesn't have the "look" if you get what I mean that a supercar should have, like an Aventador SVJ for example. I saw a Carrera GT irl and man was I disappointed, could be any 911 Targa for all I care. Whenever I see an Aventador though 😍😍
@djflip81
@djflip81 6 сағат бұрын
gt3rs is not that special......you would have to experience it to understand.....its also not really a hyper exotic car.....porsche last special car was a Carrera gt as explained already
@_RobertS
@_RobertS 6 сағат бұрын
To me 911's have always felt like they intentionally hold back on the "craziness", to leave room for the next iteration. It has probably been the smart thing to do, business-wise, but it also holds back the development by intentionally not introducing half of the things they could have on this model and save it for the next. But then I'm not the target group for any of these cars, unless I win the lottery.
@gickneorge
@gickneorge 5 сағат бұрын
Any car that has a base model isn’t a super car…
@JaydenDimaio
@JaydenDimaio 2 сағат бұрын
911's one of the least special cars ever, they make a new one every week and you know Porsche can do better, but they slow roll their seat sniffer customers and overcharge them.
@joshf1170
@joshf1170 3 сағат бұрын
I hope more cars like the GMA T.50 or 911 ST are made. Now that speed is more accessible, it would be nice to see manufacturers start to prioritize engagement and the experience over headline numbers like 0-60 and horsepower figures.
@Jalreal
@Jalreal 8 сағат бұрын
There might be more new supercars available than regular sports cars. Thats wild.
@mstreich
@mstreich 3 сағат бұрын
Maybe this is why I liked the Lotus Emira. Pricey, but more accessible. Looks gorgeous IMHO.
@SlingshotMustang
@SlingshotMustang 6 сағат бұрын
0:00-0:01 Listen to that subtle off-wall reverb. The tasteful bass of it. Oh my God. It even has an echo. Impressive. Very nice. Let's hear Paul Allen's this.
@ENDO.2000
@ENDO.2000 9 сағат бұрын
Doug the type of guy to say “hello is anybody there ?” when he hears a noise downstairs.
@jeandufresne9225
@jeandufresne9225 7 сағат бұрын
Doug the type of guy to say "Thisss is my nine millimeter, and today I'm going to show you it's quirks and features." When he hears a noise downstairs.
@mackenziegoodrich6004
@mackenziegoodrich6004 7 сағат бұрын
Growing up in rural Michigan, a Corvette or a muscle car was stupid cool. I became an adult and seeing super cars around the world became not uncommon. Now I live in Germany for work and seeing the stuff from my childhood feels exotic again.
@Thergood
@Thergood 8 сағат бұрын
And GM makes a $200K car that looks like these cars, has similar or better performance, and similar or better power numbers. Without the intangibles from the older cars that Doug mentioned, these modern exotics are just C8 ZR1's with unreliable hybrid systems and a 10x sticker price.
@Starlesslight
@Starlesslight 5 сағат бұрын
It goes along with the mindset of today's society. If a little is good, too much has to be even better! Whether it's superhero movies, Hallmark movies, or just making entertainment content in general. There are so many things being made so quickly these days, it's impossible to consume it all. Virtually nothing feels special anymore because everything gets overdone as soon as people get a whiff of something becoming popular. It's a reason the majority of influencers are the bane of society. It all goes back to that classic line from The Incredibles, when everybody is super, nobody is.
@MegaDoug1979
@MegaDoug1979 8 сағат бұрын
Having a hard time finding the article but I remember Dave Tracy (?) writing about the Hellcats on first release and that it was the "democratization of speed" making high horsepower, low 0-60 cars widely available to the public that would have widespread consequences as far as the HP wars. Now we have SUVs faster than any supercar from 20 years ago and it's all been a race to meet what automakers think the public wants.
@hannibalanderson8637
@hannibalanderson8637 8 сағат бұрын
The point you made about cars with no soul. Couldn't agree more with this point. I've been supercar shopping for years, that would give me the same viseral feel the 2012 Gallardo did. Great video and perspective, Doug.
@bobthebandit3091
@bobthebandit3091 4 сағат бұрын
How old were you when the Gallardo came out? If the answer is
@hannibalanderson8637
@hannibalanderson8637 3 сағат бұрын
@bobthebandit3091 I was 17 at the time the Gallardo came out and bought my first one at 27. Honestly, the Gallardo wasn't a poster car for me as much as the lp-670 was.
@mandelleli
@mandelleli 8 сағат бұрын
The "special" level today looks like the AMG1 and AM Valkyrie that are more race cars that take skill to drive and are on the low production exclusive
@BSatFL1995
@BSatFL1995 8 сағат бұрын
Doug Doug. Top speed is still important and CORNERING. 0-60 is like eating 1 french fry and throwing the rest away. 1982-1990 Porsche 944 Lotus Esprit and a 1984-1995 Corvette can out corner the kia ev and tesla.
@bwofficial1776
@bwofficial1776 5 сағат бұрын
That's what the mY tEsLa Is FaStEr!!!! crowd doesn't get. A performance car isn't just about 0-60. It's about the whole package and exciting all the senses.
@Bahraini_Carguy
@Bahraini_Carguy 9 сағат бұрын
Doesn't help when you got McLarens coming out with like 10 similar looking models that half of the community can't tell them apart.
@maxcactus7
@maxcactus7 7 сағат бұрын
An almost 17 minute commercial of Doug pitching and likely selling a lot of Mazda MX-5s!!
@collind328
@collind328 8 сағат бұрын
I agree with everything but have a slightly different opinion regarding “passion”. I think a lot of the newer hypercars, especially Rimac, have a lot of passion. But they pour the passion into efficiency and engineering and numbers on a page instead of delivering an unbelievable experience for the driver. I think we are starting to see that shift back toward drama with GMA and a few others. We’re still working through pre-pandemic ideas when electrification was so juicy. If a car company wanted to create a special unique car and started designing today I hope we’d start to see more special designs and wild ideas to stand out from the crowd.
@bwofficial1776
@bwofficial1776 5 сағат бұрын
Modern supercars are numbers cars. They're so technically good that they're boring. They're unbelievably fast and unbelievably exclusive. There's no raw edge and little excitement.
@AkilisMusic
@AkilisMusic 3 сағат бұрын
That 00:00 "ThisS" reverb tail is crazy 🔥
@souljaruman1
@souljaruman1 3 сағат бұрын
This is the reason why the restomod scene is where my excitement is now. The companies that work on those cars bring that "specialness" back into the automotive industry. They may not all be supercars but I would rather have one of those over many of the new supercars currently on sale.
@regis_red
@regis_red 2 сағат бұрын
Thank you! Eagle, Guntherwerks… that’s where I would put my money.
@101RealTalker
@101RealTalker 36 минут бұрын
I want a badass rat rod... Like a huge dump truck all types of Mad Maxed out 🤤
@ryanwhite6783
@ryanwhite6783 49 минут бұрын
Notice how he didn’t diss Koenigsegg. Those are cars that are built purely out of passion by one man with a dream to create the true ultimate street legal super or hyper car
@THESocialJusticeWarrior
@THESocialJusticeWarrior 7 сағат бұрын
Wish they would focus on sound and feel instead of HP. Like a very small high-reving V8/V10/V12 in a small car like a Miata. I don't need 600+ HP. I need sound and feel.
@bwofficial1776
@bwofficial1776 5 сағат бұрын
Gordon Murray is doing that in the supercar space but he's pretty much the only one with the drive to do it.
@unloveableandre
@unloveableandre 8 сағат бұрын
I really love how DM is always making videos that come from random ideas he had or heard.
@IAmOHMSS
@IAmOHMSS 3 сағат бұрын
Maybe inspired by "Why I Will NEVER Buy a NEW Car AGAIN" kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHyoq2mGeteDb5o from 1 month ago.
@0509kj
@0509kj 8 сағат бұрын
I think we're around the same age, the F50 was theee car for me when I was a kid growing up - if you can't picture building a model of it or hanging a poster of it in your room as a kid, the special factor isn't there.
@stefankuttenreich8668
@stefankuttenreich8668 4 сағат бұрын
nothing to with video in peticular, but i really apreciate that you show a picture of the cars you are talking about, even if it's only for a few seconds, not all of us know every single car you are talking about, but seeing a picture can make you relate more
@johnk1368
@johnk1368 7 сағат бұрын
Good video. As a Viper owner, I totally agree. I understand my car is not the fastest, the most refined or have the latest tech, but does it sure bring the character and the Drama. I could buy a plaid and have money in my pocket while getting 2x the horsepower, but… I’ll take my wild bull. 😃
@sdalexander8505
@sdalexander8505 8 сағат бұрын
It’s called getting old. Nothing new will give you the same feeling that you had when something special came out when you were a kid. I’m really feeling it as well as I get into my mid 30s. Nostalgia sells.
@damianoferro
@damianoferro 8 сағат бұрын
I'm 20 years old and my passion for cars was born during this new super/hyper car era. I couldn't care less about them. As Doug said they have no soul, they have no real distinguishing factor between them and every other car, or sports cars that cost 1/10 of the price.
@Rosendick
@Rosendick 7 сағат бұрын
Dude, do you know what a Duesenberg is???!!!!
@donquixote8462
@donquixote8462 7 сағат бұрын
It's not just that, in fact, it's not much of that at all, it's mostly all the stuff Doug listed haha nothing is special that comes out in half a dozen iterations a year
@lukew6725
@lukew6725 6 сағат бұрын
Not at all, I'm 25 and I HATE modern cars.
@Lupo45
@Lupo45 8 сағат бұрын
I completely agree with your point about the styling, except for 7:10 when you talked about the F80. I’m Italian and I loved Ferraris and I absolutely despise that thing. SF90 and F8 were generic and boring, but the F80 is downright ugly. It lacks cohesiveness, the black bar is criminal, the wheels have 0% Ferrari DNA in them. The race derived V6 could have been cool but it does sound worse than a Camry. As if the styling was not enough. You put that thing near a LaF and the F80 seems like it is an unfinished project car
@Kodiak97x
@Kodiak97x 8 сағат бұрын
The old Daytona had a black bar… Power train I agree, it’s not that exciting. But styling, it’s definitely a modern take on a F50 with Daytona styling cues.
@Lupo45
@Lupo45 8 сағат бұрын
@ Yes you’re right the bar comes from the 365, same as the front fenders that come directly from the F40, but that does not make it a good design. It is badly integrated and throwbacks should not be a justification for a bad design. Also it is not rare and it costs almost the same as a Tourbillon. That’s pitiful
@Don-pk2uy
@Don-pk2uy 6 сағат бұрын
​@@Kodiak97xso what? The Daytona is absolutely hideous
@JOLTER15
@JOLTER15 5 сағат бұрын
The reason why something like the 12Cilindri works with the black bar and the F80 doesn't is because the car is clearly inspired by the 365 Daytona and it makes sure of that. It really does look like a modern reincarnation of it but the F80 just looks like Ferrari got lazy and copied their own homework in such a bland and lazy way in comparison
@pauljr.harrington1905
@pauljr.harrington1905 4 сағат бұрын
@@JOLTER15This. I don't mind how the 12Cilindri looks, the Spider in particular is actually a good looking car. The F80, not so much, and I have a feeling that black bar on the front will expand to the rest of the next-generation Ferrari lineup in a few years because they're clearly sticking with it. If you look at the Urus SE and Temerario, they have a completely different identity. The Temerario doesn't look like a baby Revuelto like the Gallardo and Huracán did miniature Murciélago and Aventador, it's clear Lambo is going in a different direction and the next-generation flagship model will look completely different too and maybe with time the general public perception, mine included, may change and our eyes might adapt to it.
@saywhatnow57
@saywhatnow57 7 сағат бұрын
Kudos to Doug for just coming out and saying it. We've killed everything special about supercars.
@danialm3854
@danialm3854 8 сағат бұрын
That Aston Martin Valkyrie has woke people up from what I’ve seen recently
@RolandDigsIt
@RolandDigsIt 6 сағат бұрын
I agree. Supercars all seem the same now. I think an Evora 400 or an Elise can easily give most budgets an exciting entry into the fast, fun, analog world of semi exotic motoring and still maintain that feeling of SOUL. Just pushing the car through a curvy backroad and hearing that engine behind you wakes up that inner child.
@hitchedtohorsepower
@hitchedtohorsepower 8 сағат бұрын
I completely agree. I was just driving an Aventador SVJ and while it was amazing but I had no interest in owning one. Just a few days ago I was visiting a friend in Florida and we were heading to dinner. I had my pickup hooked to my trailer, there was three of us, and he only had 2 seat cars at his Florida house then. He drove the SVJ and asked if I wanted to drive the twin turbo Huracan or the Mustang GT500 Carbon Track Pack. Without much thought I took the Mustang. A couple years ago we talked about me buying the GT500. He gave it to me for a couple months and yes it's special but it's still a dual clutch. That was the deal breaker for me. But it some ways I think that GT500 has more soul than lots of the modern supercars.
@AhmedMJ97
@AhmedMJ97 8 сағат бұрын
@@hitchedtohorsepower I Imagine if the GT500 was offered with a manual transmission, it would be a collectors’ dream & it would rise in value over the years, still a really impressive car.
@hitchedtohorsepower
@hitchedtohorsepower 8 сағат бұрын
@AhmedMJ97 yup, I definitely would have bought it from him it it had a stick! Although I might not have been able to afford it then haha
@Anlettuce1
@Anlettuce1 6 сағат бұрын
I think most of it revolves around drama, and the fact that you don’t have to ‘earn’ speed anymore. Before it was like a game. You endured a rough/sketchy ride, shifted harshly through the gears and were rewarded with a thrilling/terrifying experience of loud noises and speed. And that drama made you love the car (and the looks of it) for giving you a unique experience driving it. I think EVs finally taught car enthusiasts that it was never really about the speed.
@ThatSpecificIndividual
@ThatSpecificIndividual 5 сағат бұрын
For me the cars seem to be functionally the same. 2 seats, not much room and a big engine. Usually the unique stuff is what I'm interested in. Koenigsegg Gemera with 4 seats. The AMG one with a 1.6 liter Formula 1 V6. Ford GT with that classic looking body compared to the hyper optimised carbon fiber shells.
@ufukonurtezel7768
@ufukonurtezel7768 3 сағат бұрын
I lowk like the new gt too
@ufukonurtezel7768
@ufukonurtezel7768 3 сағат бұрын
Because of its suspension
@Stark707.
@Stark707. 5 сағат бұрын
old cars are just amazing and they have a soul
@michaelhatfield5808
@michaelhatfield5808 8 сағат бұрын
Getting older. I’m the same way. Nothing new excites me anymore.
@FFL3001
@FFL3001 4 сағат бұрын
The first time I noticed this exhaustion was with Koenigsegg. I've never met a car guy who knows or cares about all the different Koenigsegg models. And they're all trading for $2mill and up. They just pumped one new model after another and they never felt special. You have the CC, CC8S, CCR, CCX, CCGT, CCXR, CCX Edition, CCXR Edition, CCXR Special Edition, Trevita, Quant, Agera, Agera R, Agera S, One:1, Agera RS, Agera Final, Regera, Jesko Attack, Jesko Absolut, Gemera, CC850 and the Chimera. And all of these, except the CC prototype, have been released in the last 22 years. That's 22 models in 22 years!!! They're probably great cars, but I struggle to care anymore.
@rahulmandala4930
@rahulmandala4930 3 сағат бұрын
I get the point you're trying to bring across, but I wouldn't say that Koenigsegg has released 22 models in 22 years. - The CC, CC8S, CCR, CCX, CCGT, CCXR, CCX Edition, CCXR Edition, CCXR Special Edition, and Trevita all are a part of the CC series, as in they're all trims and variations of the singular CC model. - Same case with the Agera as it was with the CC. The Agera nameplate has the variations such as Agera R, Agera S, One:1, Agera RS, and Agera Final. Even the Chimera is a commisioned one-off of the Agera utilizing the gearbox from the CC850 and engine from the Jesko. - The Regera is a bespoke ultra luxury GT model with a differentiated philosophy, of which 80 units were produced. - The Quant is a concept, and doesn't qualify as an actual production-ready model. - The Jesko has two variations: The Attack (track-built and tuned version) and the Absolut (Streamlined version geared for top speed) - The Gemera is another bespoke model. - The CC850 is a retro-modernized version of the classic CC model. All in all, a total of 6 bespoke models have been introduced by Koenigsegg, not 22.
@lyonsmotorcarinc888
@lyonsmotorcarinc888 7 сағат бұрын
Hey Doug this is the video of the year and that being said I think we'll now add a manual gear box to the Streamliner. Most manufacturers are forced to go hybrid
@markambrose1910
@markambrose1910 3 сағат бұрын
The LFA not only has soul, but it is an Opera singer with an athletic body. I wish I had $900k to buy one. Maybe next year 😮‍💨
@Pontiacmotorcompany
@Pontiacmotorcompany 7 сағат бұрын
I concur with Doug on this one. A lot of these cars are unaffordable for the average class, and seem like chariots of the rich in an age where people just want safe economical Fun transportation. Cybertrucks - Hummers - corvettes zr1 - Huge SUVS - it all speaks of this opulent dystopia. Interesting paradox! I WANT PONTIAC BACK
@sstearns2
@sstearns2 6 сағат бұрын
Chariots for people to enter a life of debt slavery.
@barryrodgers3039
@barryrodgers3039 5 сағат бұрын
When I look at demand for the high end manual Porsche cars (GT3, S/T) it makes me wonder why more manufacturers don't go for that market. It isn't about going as fast as possible. It is about having pleasure from the act of driving a well engineered car. The feel of the inputs and the sound of the engine are more important than quarter mile times or 0-60. BTW, I got more excited seeing an SVX on the road the other day than I do when I see something like a McLaren.
@quirksandfeatures3215
@quirksandfeatures3215 9 сағат бұрын
Doug the type of guy who deleted his, I dont have rich parents' video.
@AhmedMJ97
@AhmedMJ97 9 сағат бұрын
Doug thought that people will stop talking about this video, but turns out it wasn’t the case, poor Doug😂
@Lukas-eh4cf
@Lukas-eh4cf 5 сағат бұрын
Doug is the type of guy who gets so passionate about a topic that he starts speaking french.
@victorstillwell9893
@victorstillwell9893 5 сағат бұрын
My crystal ball says car collecting is outdated.
@craigjohnson4302
@craigjohnson4302 3 сағат бұрын
It's like when Soccer Moms tried to remove scoring from sport games to eliminate the competitive factor so that ALL their kids can be considered special. If everyone is special, then, by definition, nobody is.
@joemartino6976
@joemartino6976 9 сағат бұрын
Long list of reasons not necessary. The “rare” factor is gone. Also, I would suggest the Lamborghini Miura was the prototype as the first supercar. The leading Ferrari at the time , I think, was the front engine 275/GTB. Seeing either of those cars at that time, in person, was nothing less than a revelation.
@seancurtin8917
@seancurtin8917 6 сағат бұрын
Doug, I definitely agree with you about these points. One thing I think you should be aware of is as a kid the cars probably felt so special because they were unobtainable for you. You lust after things you cannot get. The Veyron seems so crazy when you are 15 years old and you keep those feelings into adulthood but when the Chiron comes out it's just another supercar that you can review. Also you're at the point now where you could buy any of the 10s of super/hypercars you review every year so I think you definitely have an overstimulation of those vehicles especially compared to normal people. Good video.
@repapeti98
@repapeti98 8 сағат бұрын
Let's summarise: -700-1500HP V8-V12, possibly hybrid -200+ mph top speed -0-60 in 1-3 seconds -Around 3000lb curbweight -All carbon-fibre -250,000-4 million $ starting price, the options could buy you a house -Several new trims or special models every now and then, each more track focused than the last and each more expensive -Special touches that try to distinguish themselves from other supercars. milled aluminium, titanium screws, carbon fibre valve caps
@TimmyInTarky
@TimmyInTarky 6 сағат бұрын
basically a tuned Focus can be on-par with many of these.. or as he said a used Tesla for 1/100th of the price with much more comfort and utility puts to shame a number of these "hyper" cars.
@Guuggel
@Guuggel 4 сағат бұрын
@@TimmyInTarky Tesla will oversteer off the first corner
@ufukonurtezel7768
@ufukonurtezel7768 3 сағат бұрын
​@TimmyInTarky I was thinking of a mustang how it became a gt car than a muscle car and it's more usefull
@michaeleaster1815
@michaeleaster1815 8 сағат бұрын
"The greatest hockey player is the one you watched when you were 12 years old" - Ken Dryden, HoF NHL Goalie & author
@John_Hoover
@John_Hoover 7 сағат бұрын
lol Yes, but that’s only because he was Wayne Gretzky.
@travisnoftle6168
@travisnoftle6168 8 сағат бұрын
What are thoughts on Tourbillon? NA V16 with stunning and unique design. It seems to me an exception to what you’re saying here (and I agree with much of this).
@ufukonurtezel7768
@ufukonurtezel7768 3 сағат бұрын
It's a hybrid and a dct
@dwe4
@dwe4 7 сағат бұрын
This explanation is all over the place. Saying that McLaren keeps spitting out meh supercars is not the same conversation as “none of these $2-3 million cars excites the 7-year-old kid in me, and here’s why.” Doug never specifically runs through the different cars to say why they aren’t exciting. Hybrid powertrain? That’s modern…sorry. Can’t beat a Tesla Plaid? That’s probably a testament to how great Tesla’s technology is. Also, if you measure based on that, then: Dodge Demon? These cars are just about going fast. So were the RUF CTR, then Diablo, then XJ220, then EB110, then F1. The early 90’s era was a golden age of OMG cars coming out to one-up each other on top speed. I think Doug has a valid point in here, but it doesn’t get made. The Jesko in the thumbnail is a beautiful car. I find most of Koenigsegg’s other cars a little “whatevs” when I see them online. The Rimac is an evolutionary vehicle. If you think the design isn’t gimicky enough, okay. That’s fine. The criticism maybe should fall on whether the $2-3 million cars deliver on the dream. If SF-90 prices are falling, does it make spending $3 million on a hybrid supercar that perhaps isn’t better a chump’s purchase? If P1’s require a battery-out service, doesn’t that create an opportunity for modernizing those cars for far less than buying a new car that is less interesting?
@Margot_est_douce.
@Margot_est_douce. 8 сағат бұрын
Your videos are always so creative, never stop!
@michaeljcurry
@michaeljcurry 4 минут бұрын
You should stop
@Deltron812
@Deltron812 6 минут бұрын
Similar to growing towns of America. It starts the moment you get your first Applebees. The town’s soul slowly fades away with each box store and chain restaurant comes in.
@nabeelsajid5423
@nabeelsajid5423 8 сағат бұрын
Doug is the type of guy who closes the fridge door with his hips
@QuanPookie
@QuanPookie 7 сағат бұрын
Definitely an old joke.
@Kamfidence
@Kamfidence 4 сағат бұрын
What’s up with that 560 sec? Been there for a minute Mr. Demuro 🤔
@asande7126
@asande7126 7 сағат бұрын
The Pagani Utopia is actually one of most exciting modern supercars. The CC850 is also great and that’s coming next year
@curtisbotzet7579
@curtisbotzet7579 Сағат бұрын
Just glad someone remembered Koenigsegg :^)
@JarJarBinkz68
@JarJarBinkz68 7 сағат бұрын
The limits were reached with the Chiron 300 mph run. Anything after that is just pointless. We're getting top speed fatigue from all the different hyper cars and top speed record attempts.
@fenrirslip
@fenrirslip 7 сағат бұрын
Which is why they're likely not gonna do anything crazy in terms of speed with the Tourbillon. We know that it'll be fast, but what makes the Tourbillon special is the fact that instead of an 8.0L quad-turbocharged W16, it has an 8.3L naturally aspirated V16. The last car that I can recall that went into production with a V16 was the Cizeta Moroder V16T. I'm not gonna count the Devel Sixteen since that car has been struggling to be taken seriously for years at this point.
@JarJarBinkz68
@JarJarBinkz68 6 сағат бұрын
@@fenrirslip excited to hear what a v16 sounds like.
@doggedlydetermined7022
@doggedlydetermined7022 9 сағат бұрын
Doug deleted the video from last Sunday?!
@watchreport
@watchreport 9 сағат бұрын
Yep
@Kodiak97x
@Kodiak97x 8 сағат бұрын
Top comments were telling him to delete it, so he did
@shrimpshrubbery7664
@shrimpshrubbery7664 8 сағат бұрын
@@Kodiak97x But why?
@Z4Ce86
@Z4Ce86 7 сағат бұрын
@@shrimpshrubbery7664 because some very broken people couldn't take a "here is how I got to where I am, and here is what I had to do, plus it was luck" type of truth. Whole video probably made a lot of people broken and sad about their lives and the choices they didnt take, so they lashed out using classic internet troll attacks. Doug will be sad for a few days, then drive a CGT and get over it, but those who attacked him will stay sad for a bit longer...
@bigdataengineer5131
@bigdataengineer5131 7 сағат бұрын
one more issue with that 7-figure hypercars is that most of them are exceeding the driving skills of 99.99....9% of their owners. it means that in terms of speed and drive, doesnt matter on the track or on the streets, there are a tons of times cheaper cars that also exceeds the diving skills of their owners too. Cayman, M4, Corvette, etc.
@hamzak6437
@hamzak6437 8 сағат бұрын
You have also got to factor in social media, each of these exotic super cars is just a few clicks away, details about the price and power and videos of it driving all available to every one. The hype and grandeur of these super cars has lessened due to the supply of material on them
@sambone8213
@sambone8213 5 сағат бұрын
Yup -- 25 years ago you had to live vicariously through these cars via magazines and movies. I used to scour the internet in the 90's just hoping to find a 4 second sound clip of a F40, F50, F355, etc, etc.
@m40dot
@m40dot 4 сағат бұрын
Doug the type of guy to totally discount Mate Rimac's soul not being in his flagship car.
@Sh4dowgale
@Sh4dowgale 9 сағат бұрын
I agree with what Doug says about the styling. However, there is one that I love because of it's down-low styling. The Noble M600. It's crazy!
@Kodiak97x
@Kodiak97x 8 сағат бұрын
I think the proportions of that car are perfect, it’s not the craziest styled supercar, but it just looks right, the front angle is one of my faves.
@blancA4blanc
@blancA4blanc 2 сағат бұрын
17 minutes video, talk about soul and not a SINGLE WORD about the NSX??? Thank you!
@paulie-Gualtieri.
@paulie-Gualtieri. 9 сағат бұрын
Doug the type of guy who gives negative comments about his background, a Doug Score.
@frankposterello1628
@frankposterello1628 8 сағат бұрын
There's also a threshold that's realistically useable on the street, and that threshold used to be a supercar. Now you can reach that with a $40k toyota.
@BasicMaffs
@BasicMaffs 9 сағат бұрын
Doug the type of guy to leave his shirt on in the pool
@stanlinders3180
@stanlinders3180 5 сағат бұрын
Doug is the kind of guy that get's exited by someone offering their well maintained second gen Prius for a video more than the latest greatest from Ferrari. And that's why a lot of us are all here.
@bwofficial1776
@bwofficial1776 5 сағат бұрын
I love the videos where Doug reviews normal, attainable cars. I'd rather watch a video of an old Saab than the latest $3B 1 of -1 super ultra limited special edition Lamboclarenarri.
@pnwDatsun
@pnwDatsun 9 сағат бұрын
Doug, you need to see my 1981 DIESEL Datsuns!! It’ll make you excited! Gaurenteed!! Plenty of old school quirks and features.
@bit1564
@bit1564 3 сағат бұрын
One point I think matters here is that there are upstart brands trying to enter the market all the time with various vapourware, and even established companies endlessly teasing new offerings. There’s also the fact that many of these top-tier supercars are simply souped up versions of more commercial supercars. So I’m with you Doug and I think there’s even more to this than you’ve identified in the video!
@halfsourlizard9319
@halfsourlizard9319 8 сағат бұрын
Doug's literally the type of guy to make a video complaining that cars don't suck as much as they used to and therefore supercars aren't as 'special' by comparison.
@cencio_1976
@cencio_1976 3 сағат бұрын
Speaking of cars with a soul. Can’t wait for Doug to review a Lancia Thema 8.32 one day, with its front wheel drive Ferrari V8 from the 308. The amount of craziness engineers put in that car!
@willfox640
@willfox640 9 сағат бұрын
Still remember ur feature in road and track way back in the day spotting in Atlanta. Joined your car spotting website and was one of the top 3 posters of all time on it. So epic to see your awesome journey :)
@NitrousMiike
@NitrousMiike 8 сағат бұрын
Doug saying what we all been thinking. I even went through this recently when buying my new daily driver, an F150. The twin turbo and hybrid engines have instant torque and are faster, but nothing beats the analog feel of a V8 rev'ing toward redline.
@Boomtendo4tw
@Boomtendo4tw 8 сағат бұрын
Doug the kinda guy to complain about reduced vehicle fatalities
@Zerobar78.
@Zerobar78. 2 сағат бұрын
100% agree with you Doug. While it's just another Mustang, my Mach 1 feels alive the moment the engine turns over, it sounds great and is a blast to drive(especially over the top of pedestrians).
@ThatOneAgarAgarioThePro
@ThatOneAgarAgarioThePro 9 сағат бұрын
Honestly its hard to get excited because there are way to many of the them and they dont feel special because of the digital tech and electronich .. Its a god damn car we like analog manual cars that are really good designed
@FinancialStorm7
@FinancialStorm7 6 сағат бұрын
They also are not making the older cars. It seems each year these manufacturers have these "limited editions" that they somehow keep making year after year that are basically the exact same, or is just a paint color difference. They are not special or limited.
@FSAPOJake
@FSAPOJake 9 сағат бұрын
I pretty much stopped getting excited about performance cars once the Model S Plaid released. Now, anyone with $100,000 to spare can order a family sedan online that does low 9s in the quarter. Insane speed is not as interesting or as exclusive as it used to be.
@epicswirl
@epicswirl 6 сағат бұрын
I think $100k cars are exciting. You have the 911, RS5 and RS7. I love seeing those. Electric, not so much
@JSBNebraska
@JSBNebraska 3 сағат бұрын
And SOUND, when speed doesn’t matter as much anymore and you want drama, it’s the sound that delivers it.
@darinfrye4252
@darinfrye4252 9 сағат бұрын
No views in 14sec. Doug fell off
@AdamG1983
@AdamG1983 9 сағат бұрын
I'm sure he lost a lot of fans with his (now deleted) video last week
@akrambakerBerlin
@akrambakerBerlin 8 сағат бұрын
I know $250,000 may not be a "supercar" price, and there are many versions of this car, but my money down, the only car where I felt something really special -- at least for those who know (and yes I realize that sounds pretentious as I write it) --- is the Porsche 911 S/T. Best 911 since the old 930 Turbos. The S/T is simply a perfect car full of passion and fun and a true drivers' car. Thought?
@marclangman4836
@marclangman4836 7 сағат бұрын
Great car, would love to own one, but it’s not a supercar.
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