Douglas DC-8 - the first Douglas jet airliner

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Douglas DC-8 is a four-engine jet airliner developed by Douglas Aircraft in the 1950s.
Launched after the competing Boeing 707, the DC-8 kept Douglas in a strong position in the airliner market, and remained one of the main passenger aircraft for a long time.
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@hbpirate9023
@hbpirate9023 5 жыл бұрын
My first job after high school was working for Douglas on DC8s. My job was crawling inside the wings and seal the fuel tanks.
@watershed44
@watershed44 5 жыл бұрын
@hbpirate Thanks for your hard work. That must be a darn hard and potentially dangerous job. It's amazing to me that the general public are rarely aware of all the hard and dangerous work required to produce these miracles of engineering. I wish the guys in the trenches received more exposure to the public, which they absolutely deserve.
@underwaterdick
@underwaterdick 5 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine having that as a full time job! I am an aircraft engineer who has done my fair share of tank diving, but at least it wasn't too often. The development of rival aircraft throughout history is a fascinating subject, still happening today in the commercial market with Boeing V Airbus and their different approach to the same product.
@johnvarney5740
@johnvarney5740 3 жыл бұрын
I also worked on aircraft such as the 747-100 and 737, assembling the flight control systems and fuel systems
@DiamondAviator4
@DiamondAviator4 2 жыл бұрын
That doesn’t sound fun.
@1marcelfilms
@1marcelfilms 2 ай бұрын
wagie wagie get in the wing
@Rodgerball
@Rodgerball 5 жыл бұрын
9,500 hours of DC-8 time in my logbook. Flew the -54.-55,-61,-62,-63,-71& the mighty -73 around the world. Almost all are gone now. Lots of great memories. You did not get a DC-8 type rating, you got a search warrant. Searching for all of the different locations that Douglas put the switches and gauges and controls according to the desires of the particular airline that originally ordered the aircraft.
@martin.B777
@martin.B777 5 жыл бұрын
Must have been fun flying in the golden age of aviation, although less safe! Is it true that DC8 didn't have an APU? Why and what were the consequences?
@georgemurphy2579
@georgemurphy2579 5 жыл бұрын
Douglas was famous for its prop planes .... none like them! Pilots loved the Electras, so I'm told. Boeing is number one in the jetliner industry.... IMHO. Hats off to you for your accomplishments as a pilot!!!
@Rodgerball
@Rodgerball 5 жыл бұрын
Martin R. Only 1 DC- 8 I flew had an APU. It used to be Adnan Khashoggi’s private plane for his arms dealings. Another time we were flying N870TV, a former Transamerica -73 (no apu) with 250 live sheep (breeding stock) from Hobart, Tasmania to Stanley, Falkland Islands via Tahiti and Easter Island. While on the ground in Papaette, during crew rest, both FBO provided auxiliary air conditioning carts overheated and failed in the 90 degree South Pacific heat. The unsheared sheep began to overheat and the accompanying veterinarian said that unless we could get the sheep back up to altitude and into cooler air most would succumb to heatstroke. Out of crew rest we came, sleep deprived and red eyed and launched to Easter Island. Argentina would not then allow an aircraft to fly through its airspace with a Falkands Island destination so we had to fly north over Bolivia and refuel in Montevideo before heading south over the Atlantic into the Falklands.
@martin.B777
@martin.B777 5 жыл бұрын
Kent Krizman Poor sheep and crew, but those were some impressive/beautiful destinations. Thank you for the interesting story, Kent!
@deeremeyer1749
@deeremeyer1749 5 жыл бұрын
I smell manure oozing from every part of your career "narrative" but its BULLSHIT rather than SHEEP SHIT.
@jivefx
@jivefx 5 жыл бұрын
I was first an FE on the DC-8. I flew for Fine Air. Great bird and very fast workhorse!
@mahmoudelshaer6786
@mahmoudelshaer6786 5 жыл бұрын
Another masterpiece from the best reviewer, keep it up my friend
@livingdonor7774
@livingdonor7774 5 жыл бұрын
Flew on many stretched Delta DC-8's. Loved them. They looked awesome on the ramp as well.
@bastarddoggy
@bastarddoggy 5 жыл бұрын
In the early 1990's I loaded a lot of packages on UPS DC-8's that started off as airliners and were converted to freighters. They held 18 air containers and pushing that last short one all the way to the back of the cabin was a long shove. They had four belly compartments. I spent some quality time loading and unloading those, too. They required a tail stand on the rear because those fuselages were so long. The last container position was so far aft of the main gear that too much weight in back would lift the nose off the ground. Weight and balance on aircraft is always important, but the DC-8's seemed a lot more sensitive than some other planes we loaded. It was fun to stand on the ramp when they started the engines. They did not have APUs, so they needed big huffer carts to get the engines turning. Once the fuel lit off you could feel the rumble in your chest. I got to marshall them in to their parking spots on a lot of cold early mornings. It's fun to wave a couple of flashlights at a plane that big.
@theenzoferrari458
@theenzoferrari458 5 жыл бұрын
YEET!
@duartecunha9779
@duartecunha9779 5 жыл бұрын
Worldways Canada Flew 4 DC -8 that previously belonged to CP Air, worked in them for 5 Years how I miss those tail strikes when seated for takeoff in the rear jump seat.Thanks for bringing back memories of the 5 best years of my life.
@Iowarail
@Iowarail 5 жыл бұрын
We put an APU in a DC-8 at Lockheed in SC in 1990. Plane belonged to the US Gov. one of the spook outfits, I think it was the NSA if I remember correctly.
@coyotegrad-collectables
@coyotegrad-collectables 4 жыл бұрын
I worked for U.P.S. it the late 1990's in Ontario California. I hated loading the DC-8. Once I heard the company was retiring them, I shed a tear lol
@bastarddoggy
@bastarddoggy 4 жыл бұрын
@@coyotegrad-collectables it's true, the rollers were always beat to hell in the -8s.. That made moving those cans hard and caused them to go crooked sometimes and get jammed up. I got spoiled before we loaded -8s we had brand new 757s. Those things loaded smooth as glass. But I had more fun than anything operating the K-Loader. It was like playing a video game and much better than pushing/pulling cans.
@jeffpalmer5502
@jeffpalmer5502 5 жыл бұрын
I flew on a DC-8 twice as a child. Once to Copenhagen, Stopped in Greenland for fuel. And to Washington Dc. Good video!
@backfromcuba
@backfromcuba 5 жыл бұрын
was it loud?
@frankgaleon5124
@frankgaleon5124 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting experience
@densealloy
@densealloy 5 жыл бұрын
1:40 absolutely one of your best scripts, yet. Well put and properly descriptive..that being said overall this video is fantastic. Thanks for a another great video.
@livinginvancouverbc2247
@livinginvancouverbc2247 5 жыл бұрын
That was thoroughly enjoyable. I was born in Toronto in 1960. Our home was 5 miles (8 kms) from Toronto International Airport. The flight path was directly over our house. I mean, absolutely 90 degrees vertical overhead at about 1,500 feet (460 M) On busy days, we could see five planes in the air; one overhead, two approaching our house and two leaving. They flew in either direction, but most often East to West. By far, the DC-8 was the most common plane. But they were really loud. When the DC-8 Stretch came out, people started complaining to the airport. The dishes were rattling off the shelves, dogs would howl, children would cry. Not joking. A few dozen of those over your head, every day, you've had enough. I remember one night when I was a small child. Must've been a serious emergency landing. It was the middle of the night, 3 AM-ish when I woke up hearing a jet approaching. It got louder and louder and LOUDER AND FUCKING LOUDER , my parents came rushing into my bedroom and the plane passed over the engines screaming in a way we'd never heard. Must've been less than a hundred feet over hour house, in the middle of the night. To say the house shook is a fucking understatement. Mom, my brother and I were crying and furious until my Dad said "Stop crying! Imagine what those people on that airplane are going through!" Your video brought back a childhood memory I had almost totally forgotten.
@miaflyer2376
@miaflyer2376 5 жыл бұрын
So what was built first? The airport or your house? Do tell.
@paulclare5477
@paulclare5477 5 жыл бұрын
Same here, 5 miles from Manchester Airport. 1980’s. Dc-8s used for cargo, screaming in over our house. Good memories lol
@jakobole
@jakobole 5 жыл бұрын
Always loved the look of that bird :)
@sallindia3058
@sallindia3058 5 жыл бұрын
I remember back in 1973 as a 10 year old aviation buff flying to Italy on Capitol International Aiways super 62 model. It was 2:00 am somewhere over the North Atlantic and Captain invited me into cockpit.He tilted the plane to the left and pointed out to me the lights of a freighter ship down below.My favorite jet of all time.Loved those scoops on the nose.Saw one 3 months ago coming into LAX.
@Hamsaviews
@Hamsaviews 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the video, especially a statement you made towards the end "Time has no mercy" Indeed, well said !
@jonathanhansen3709
@jonathanhansen3709 5 жыл бұрын
In 1969 my father’s Naval Career stationed him at Naval Air Station Guam. We flew over in a Pan Am Boeing 707, and back to the States in 1971 in a Douglas DC 8, flown by a contractor service. It was the only time I ever flew on either of these planes. But I was 14 and 16 at the time and impressed by both.
@postal_the_clown
@postal_the_clown 5 жыл бұрын
9:20 DC-8, which my dad worked on and in the background C-124 which his dad helped build. My life took a different path. And the only Douglas aircraft I've flown in are the 9, 10 and C118.
@VidVwr00
@VidVwr00 5 жыл бұрын
I flew on one of these in the 1990's on United with the older style engines. The plane was already showing it's age then.
@malcolmnicholls2893
@malcolmnicholls2893 5 жыл бұрын
What a great video. This answers many questions I hadn't bothered to ask since seeing these types flying over London when I lived there as a 10 year old. ( now 65) I hadn't realised DC8 was as popular as 707. Now I need to find out about the Convairs. Many thanks.
@johnmorris7815
@johnmorris7815 5 жыл бұрын
I flew the DC9 10/32 for 7 glorious years, I loved that jet and when I finally transferred to the B737-300/400/500 I couldn’t believe how agricultural the Boeing was compared to the slick DC9. Luckily I only had to endure 3 years on the 737 before we re-equipped with Airbus A321/320/319 and later the A330-200 which is my personal aircraft of choice for a working pilot, much later I was offered a chance to fly the great B747-400 that I fly now. I would have loved the chance to fly the DC8 and the DC10 as I believe them to be superior to their contemporaries and I would have loved the opportunity to have operated them.
@augusth2212
@augusth2212 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, Another Marathon for McDonald Douglas Company. Thanks For A Great Job Skyships.
@coover65
@coover65 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting this together. I absolutely love the DC-8; it was THE first jet I flew on (an Air New Zealand/TEAL model from Brisbane to Auckland when I was just a couple of months old. I flew on another ANZ (or the same one) in about 1969. I was only 4, and I remember the windows being bigger than those on the 737-200. That was Melbourne to Christchurch having flown Christchurch to Melbourne Essendon on a Lockheed Electra.
@vk2ig
@vk2ig 5 жыл бұрын
Flying Christchurch to Essendon on a L-188 would've been interesting! I never got to fly on an Electra, but saw them many times in the early 80s when Ansett was operating four of them as freighters.
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 10 ай бұрын
One of my family worked for Delta Airlines in the 70s and 80s, and Delta had quite a few DC-8's for a long time, very fun airplane to fly in when I was little. I remember how flexible they were, the wings would flap like a bird and the engines would swing from side to side in turbulent air, but it was a smooth ride in the cabin.
@brianarbenz7206
@brianarbenz7206 5 жыл бұрын
Fine video. Very informative and lively. I flew on one of the final commercial propeller flights in 1964, and also flew on jets during that same trip. I was lucky to be able to compare the two, because jet travel is SO much quieter inside the cabin. I immediately saw why they called them "Whisper Jets."
@Mark_Ocain
@Mark_Ocain 4 жыл бұрын
There was no business class until the early 80's when Qantas instituted it. The 707 and DC-8 had first and coach/tourist configurations
@mebeasensei
@mebeasensei 5 жыл бұрын
I worked with a refugee from Vietnam who was a commercial pilot with the Vietnam Airlines of the south, when there was a south Vietnam. He told me that to hike the DC8 was the best and most beautiful aircraft due, among other things,to its beautiful fuselage.
@joshuav9005
@joshuav9005 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so well researched lol. Great video as always, keep em coming.
@toy2day1
@toy2day1 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of your best videos. Congratations.
@grahamsawyer831
@grahamsawyer831 2 жыл бұрын
despite (because of?) the laconic delivery and pithy comments, I find this series excellent, packing a huge amount into each episode; technical data, historical context, interesting anecdotes and so on. keep up the good work 'Sky'! hugely enjoyable.
@J.Stein1
@J.Stein1 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Btw, the DC-8 was one of the few planes that could operate reverse thrust inflight :)
@starliner1649A
@starliner1649A 5 жыл бұрын
I remember how steep DC-8s lose altitude by comparison with B707s. PP-PDS, DC-8 model 33, Panair do Brasil.
@pumpkindog1
@pumpkindog1 2 жыл бұрын
Well done video. I flew the 54, 55, 61, 62, 63, 71, and 73 a total of 17 years. When it was converted to the 70 series it became a great airplane. The CFM engines and the PACKs fixed the biggest problems. I got off of it and was very happy to say I got off before I hit a nacelle or a tail skid. It was a challenging airplane to fly well.
@pip12111
@pip12111 5 жыл бұрын
The Hawaii Five O intro showed the DC 8 in the fish eye lenses
@timothycook2917
@timothycook2917 5 жыл бұрын
I always found the DC-8's to be a bit more attractive than the 707's
@DeLiverpool
@DeLiverpool 5 жыл бұрын
I could not agree more, oh absolutely, except where you say DC-8 I would say 707 and vice versa.
@IgnoredAdviceProductions
@IgnoredAdviceProductions 5 жыл бұрын
The 707s had a better nose.
@theart8039
@theart8039 3 жыл бұрын
It was very noisy as far as I remember
@gooner72
@gooner72 3 жыл бұрын
@@theart8039 the 707 was pretty noisy as well, engine design back then wasn't plagued by the eco problems they face now.
@barracuda7018
@barracuda7018 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it was, I flew Swissair planes long time ago, they were magnificent. The latest version could fly flow Capetown SA to London non stop..
@jteaguelll
@jteaguelll 5 жыл бұрын
My First trip from CLT to JFK... Delta DC8..... it was so nice and food awe super... never forget it...
@ChevyBM
@ChevyBM 5 жыл бұрын
I love the DC8 and DC9. They are my favorite aircraft produced!
@binaway
@binaway 5 жыл бұрын
Caravelle wasn't designed to compete with the Comet. It was intermediate range with the nose section produced by de Havilland, coming off the Comet 4 production line.
@diegosanchez5900
@diegosanchez5900 5 жыл бұрын
another superb video! Like how you focus on a plane but also include competitors and context in an easy but not poor way, much of youtube lack on this. Wont ask for any specific plane cause the one you choose will be interesting. Please, keep it this way
@pilotboy3328
@pilotboy3328 5 жыл бұрын
The Stretch Eight. Flew it from Atlanta and Miami and back many times. My brother worked for Delta and said when they puy the new engines on they had problems with the brakes overheating, even with the engines at idle. Thet taxied out with just one engine and started the other three just before takeoff.
@davidolusemo7677
@davidolusemo7677 5 жыл бұрын
Great video once again sky.keep up the good work and thank you
@dorpie
@dorpie 5 жыл бұрын
Your videos are amazing. Please keep them coming.
@redlock4004
@redlock4004 5 жыл бұрын
Well done Sky. Thank you.
@alexanderdeburdegala4609
@alexanderdeburdegala4609 3 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say I really enjoy your presentation style and how comprehensive you are with your videos. Thank you!
@angelotig
@angelotig 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation!!!
@ddoyle11
@ddoyle11 5 жыл бұрын
I love these videos! Well researched, well made, and nicely presented. Thank you!
@jacobzimmermann59
@jacobzimmermann59 5 жыл бұрын
Skyships, you did it again with this magistral video! The DC-8 is a piece of aviation history and it was, perhaps sadly, Douglas' crowning achievement. After that, it was all downhill with the DC-10 of sinister reputation and the very underwhelming DC-9, MD-11 and MD-80. Yet it begs a question: what if Airbus didn't exist? Antitrust laws would presumably have prevented Boeing from taking over Mc Donnell-Douglas so maybe the company would have ultimately managed to get back on track and produce another great airliner for the 21st century?
@slowpoke3102
@slowpoke3102 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry Jacob Zimmerman, to see you speaking generalities, I am retired now and was a pilot, those statements are far from the truth, and nothing but aid for the political system that rode that erosion to the top. I guess I prefer facts not politics. Hard to get since Religulous groups forming Trust Companies in just about all fields, and rewriting history. Outside of complain I am just a sole individual and cant do much to stop or even truly slow the corruption. DC-9's were safer than 727's and 737's they didn't sell more just had a better safety record. MD-11's blew the doors off of 767's excep newer 767's have better fuel consumption. Still appreciate the end comment, but it is truly worthless with the massive corruption. DC-10's had problems originally but Douglas admitted to them, more than 'Boink' or 'Lockmar' did combined. People who actually handled the breakup were surprised at how much better Douglas technology was than the other two, all tech has been ported to the new 'Boinks' already one result was the new 777 and 787. DC-10's were the 1st to be built to fighter plane specifications. Most people just swallow whatever the new Industry Leader spit down their throats without understanding.
@obelic71
@obelic71 5 жыл бұрын
@@slowpoke3102 The oldest still existing airline in the world KLM used al douglas planes from the DC2 to the MD11 and was the last major airline that ended passenger flights with the MD11 in 2014. The MD11's (last series of passenger MD11's) from 1997 were only redrawn from service because 2 engined arcraft were more fuel efficient. We mechanics loved to work on the DC10 en MD11, and the pilots loved them because they were more pilot's aircraft.
@slowpoke3102
@slowpoke3102 5 жыл бұрын
@@obelic71 : Yup 2 engine are more fuel efficient, United Airlines was built using Douglas aircraft, American used them also quite heavily. Thanks for saying so. Nowadays it's close your eye's and believe what your being spoon fed. Douglas was also instrumental in spreading the popularity of aviation. Worked not only to build safe aircraft but helped to open new major airports across the country for people to use flying. I like them quite a bit because people were important factors also not just profit.
@obelic71
@obelic71 5 жыл бұрын
@@slowpoke3102 The Douglas MD aircraft are not disapering in the (near) future. One of the oldest the DC3 (Dakota's we call them overhere) are still flying, rebuild and are even getting turboprop refits and modern cockpits. They almost have eternal life! DC8 (CFM56) are outliving the 707 in freightservice by decades. Late model DC10's and MD11 are being converted to freight and military tankers for Nato. Lets hope that Boeing incorperates the enginering DNA from the company's they merged with (MD, Sikorsky) to make even better aircraft.
@slowpoke3102
@slowpoke3102 5 жыл бұрын
@@obelic71 : I know lengthening the fuselage in the process. Just typed with aircraft mechanic, says DC-10 had mistakes, Douglas admitted and took care of them. 'Boink' 747 had more sever problems (less bad press) to this day will not admit. Was actually the worst wide body on the market, was under the table dealt and became the best selling wide body. Like 737 had worst safety record, and now most popular selling plane. Politics, go figure. '$$$$$' , an aircraft mechanic I've typedat and many people in the field admit they don't like the double dealing either. C'est la ville?? Lots of room for improvement.
@dennyliegerot4021
@dennyliegerot4021 5 жыл бұрын
great video... the stretched 8 was a thing to behold.
@fsega3669
@fsega3669 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for history on these airplanes Its like a bed time story. Good night
@JohnHelfgott
@JohnHelfgott 5 жыл бұрын
That channel is very amazing.
@jamest2401
@jamest2401 5 жыл бұрын
I loved the video, Sky!! I really wish there were more video examples of this aircraft in action, on the internet. But there are a really limited selection of DC-8 footage. There are lots of pictures, but few videos.
@vmdairy
@vmdairy 5 жыл бұрын
I rode on a DC 8 on my lovely trip to Vietnam in 1969. Nice plane, memorable journey.
@pavelavietor1
@pavelavietor1 5 жыл бұрын
hello thanks for the memories . I work the DC-8 back in 1983 , Flying Tiger cargo Airline, out of ATL . The airplanes became part of UPS fleet , very elegant airplane. saludos.
@jimbranca1565
@jimbranca1565 5 жыл бұрын
last time i was on a streched dc 8 was in the 80s on Northeastern Airways what a comfortable plane and a great flight with great food and a ton of leg room!!! I was flying to ft lauderdale from long island/islip ny
@mahiramvevo
@mahiramvevo 5 жыл бұрын
wonderful
@pgrant7688
@pgrant7688 5 жыл бұрын
My first overseas flight was on a DC-8 chartered by the Military Airlift Command, from Los Angeles to Hawaii and then to Guam. I also flew on the DC-8 on transatlantic and transcontinental routes. It wasn’t always comfortable, but it was going to get you where you needed to go.
@anuragshirke2006
@anuragshirke2006 5 жыл бұрын
Another amazing video. Can you make a video on the history Douglas Conpany just like you did on Boeing and Airbus.
@Squawk-rd4mv
@Squawk-rd4mv 5 жыл бұрын
The three legends of America 707 dc8 and 880 plz do 880 soon
@SkyshipsEng
@SkyshipsEng 5 жыл бұрын
Very soon)
@RK870XK
@RK870XK 5 жыл бұрын
Why not the 990 that's an even rare aircraft just 30 built
@acescionti711
@acescionti711 5 жыл бұрын
What about the 990a and the comet
@acescionti711
@acescionti711 5 жыл бұрын
Oh and the vicures viscount
@thomaslocke3939
@thomaslocke3939 5 жыл бұрын
The 880 and 990 were not competitive to the 707 and DC-8. They had shorter range and carried fewer passengers, and except for speed were comparable to the DC-6. The 990 flew faster than any other jetliner, though.
@MarcusLeepapi
@MarcusLeepapi 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice....Thank you...
@frankgaleon5124
@frankgaleon5124 5 жыл бұрын
Love this video. Make a story about the Convair Coronado
@roundmoters
@roundmoters 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the video, one thing though the 707 came first and morphed into the KC 135 and while they did resemble each other they were very different. Thanks for the great video.
@GarfieldRex
@GarfieldRex 4 жыл бұрын
Can you do videos about airlines? For example, the oldest in the world, KLM, the first in American continent, Avianca (by few months from KLM), the most luxurious, the biggest, the newest, etc. Love your channel 👌
@softpawsasmr
@softpawsasmr 2 жыл бұрын
In my humble opinion, the DC 8 and the Comet were the most beautiful jet airliners of all time💜💜💜
@robertspeicher5047
@robertspeicher5047 2 жыл бұрын
1968, DEC 22...FLEW ON A STRETCH EIGHT FROM TRAVIS AFB TO ANCHORAGE ALASKA HEADED FOR THAILAND. FILLED WITH GIs GOING TO THAILAND. SAT IN THE LASTVSEATS IN THE BACK. IT WAS UN-NERVING SEEING THE FUSELAGE WIGGLING LIKE A SNAKE WHEN WE HIT ROUGH AIR. GOOD AIRCRAFT, WATCHING THE MOVEMENT WAS SCARY
@cnordegren
@cnordegren 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. This video proves that engines are vital to the longevity of an aircraft. Today we have the GE90/GEnx/GE9x. Tomorrow we will have an improved variant of GTF.
@aaronchandler2380
@aaronchandler2380 5 жыл бұрын
excellent piece of work! Thank you!
@bryanbath6848
@bryanbath6848 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant presentation. Thank you!!
@super20dan
@super20dan 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a vid on the boeing 720. this plane is totally overlooked and served an important purpose. allowed jet service to many airports early on . also put a nail in the convair 880,s coffin. served till the 727 was introduced as America,s short haul jet.
@mattelliott8446
@mattelliott8446 5 жыл бұрын
I hadn't realized that the DC-8 had broken the sound barrier I thought just the Convair CV-880/990 had. I am looking forward to your video on that aircraft whenever it may come!
@fraserhenderson7839
@fraserhenderson7839 5 жыл бұрын
My first airline flight was on an Air Canada DC-8-61 from Edmonton to Montreal in 1972. Air Canada called it a "DC-8L" I thought it was huge and loud. Passengers boarded from the tarmac and the air was blue with cigarette smoke throughout the flight. The Super 61 had a weird proportion to my eye, just a bit too long.
@luthermyrvold4884
@luthermyrvold4884 5 жыл бұрын
Fraser Henderson m
@RB747domme
@RB747domme 5 жыл бұрын
The amazing thing is, that out of 552 DC-8, 83 hulls suffered serious incidents, many of which resulted in fatalities, and the deaths of over 2200 people. That's a 15% loss rate from the fleet. Those figures are astronomical in comparison to today's safety percentages. And yet, people just took it in their stride. Just teethng problems. If ever we need to be reminded, of the pioneering safety work that went on during that 40 of 50 year period leading up to extremely safe flying figures heading towards the 21st century, then it's this history that should be recognised as the painful, and yet very necessary 'work throughs' which lead to today's high safety standards and low fatality rates. They were all truly pioneers, for many reasons, including fuel capacity, range, efficiency, quietness, engine smoke, comfort, and reliability - but most of all safety. And yet most people today just take it for granted. De Havilland, Vickers, Lockheed, Bristol, Boeing, Douglas, Convair, Caravelle, and finally Airbus, should all be thanked for their tireless sacrifice and hard work in making the skies safer today for all of us. And that's not forgetting all of the pioneering engine manufacturers and designs either. Godspeed to those in the airline industry, and thank you for making our skies safer and a pleasant place to be - and allow it to be taken for granted, allowing all of us to fly without giving it a second thought.
@paulshepherd8295
@paulshepherd8295 5 жыл бұрын
Very well said. People forget (or simply don't realise) that until relatively recently flying was a pretty risky business. When you consider that there are over 103000 flights each day, today's safety record is amazing. It seems that the biggest risk to safety at the moment is that one of the retarded chemtrail believers will try to bring an aircraft down, to stop it "spraying"!
@watershed44
@watershed44 5 жыл бұрын
@Clint Tapper Nicely stated friend! Fact is that the flight of man is still an incredible miracle and should NEVER be taken for granted. People are way too unappreciative of these amazing engineering creations, it's sad really. They barely notice and have no wonder about these planes.
@DoctorShocktor
@DoctorShocktor 5 жыл бұрын
Clint Tapper Congratulations, you just proved the ability to present statistics to present nearly any “problem” desired when not supported by a larger specific framework and other data. I’m not defending the DC-8 here, just hating on inadequate data. 1. What were the total flight miles? 2. How many incidents were human error in the air or on the ground? 3. How many incidents were weather related? 4. Specifically how many hull losses lead to how many deaths and how many lead to few or no deaths?. Automobiles have a much lower “fleet loss”, yet kill far more people for example. If you’re just comparing raw aircraft losses and deaths over the decades, then the 2200 deaths over two to three decades are statically pretty close to zero and insignificant to any other fatality risk. So your “15 percent fleet loss” ends up only being significant to the people who have to buy and maintain aircraft fleets.
@RB747domme
@RB747domme 5 жыл бұрын
DoctorShocktor this is true. And I agree with you. However, could you imagine that out of 552 Airbus A380, 83 of them suffered serious incidents leading to 83 hull losses, and 2,200 deaths? Or the same goes for 552 Boeing 787, or A350s.. Truth is, if 80 odd aircraft out of 500 brand new designed models today went down, it would be shocking. Of course, the reason could be air traffic control failure, weather, human error, crew resource management error, or anything.. I wasn't simply bringing up failures for the DC 8, which probably had no worse figures than any other new aircraft of its time, I was simply highlighting the differences in safety statistics (as quoted by this documentary) compared to today. But whatever the reason, safety has improved massively today compared to 50-60 years ago. For example, the Vanguard had awful safety statistics, and so did the Viscount, compared to today. I'm sure, if you went through all of the aircraft flying of that time you would find similar statistics across the board, which only serves to highlight my point, that flying today is immensely safe compared to that era.
@dewiz9596
@dewiz9596 5 жыл бұрын
The reason that flying is so much safer today is that EVERY incident in commercial aviation is investigated, and comprehensive reporting structure ensures that procedures and/or design and engineering are modified to prevent a re-occurrence. Having said that, though, in the days of yore, flying, if you survived, was a much more pleasant experience.
@trash4cash454
@trash4cash454 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Douglas, finally!
@popev3887
@popev3887 5 жыл бұрын
The DC-8 was a great airplane!
@cyrilmeynier5688
@cyrilmeynier5688 5 ай бұрын
As soon as major airlines withdrew their 707's, the military purshased many airframes, in order to use them as spare parts for military 707 and KC-135 fleets. They also purchased the remaining spare parts. This didn't happen for the DC-8, as there were very few ones in military use. That's why thje DC-8 had a much longer life for small civilian operators. They could get dc-8's and parts, much more easily than they could get 707's.
@rodolfooctaviovelezmontes7046
@rodolfooctaviovelezmontes7046 5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful MXA Comet footage!! 😻
@gooner72
@gooner72 3 жыл бұрын
I quite like the DC-8, a proper old school jet engined passenger aircraft...... they all got pretty fast actually as they really weren't too bothered about super fuel efficient economy like they are today.
@scott.c9587
@scott.c9587 5 жыл бұрын
Great video
@michaelosgood9876
@michaelosgood9876 2 жыл бұрын
The longevity & average hours per airframe (several with well over 100000 hrs) marks the DC 8 as the greatest of all first generation jetliners. The numbers don't lie!
@grouchocatman
@grouchocatman 5 жыл бұрын
Good video. 7:45 Didn't know that the Bose headsets were that old!
@grouchocatman
@grouchocatman 5 жыл бұрын
@@yonatan62 Thanks, impressed by your knowledge. Here it is at NASA's website: www.nasa.gov/centers/armstrong/news/FactSheets/FS-050-DFRC.html
@LevongabLevGab
@LevongabLevGab 5 жыл бұрын
Произношение подтянулось! Улет 5!
@dennisdaily5463
@dennisdaily5463 3 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful series. Does anyone know who the narrator is? I love his accent. Dennis
@ultrametric9317
@ultrametric9317 5 жыл бұрын
Psycho testers and badass PR! Unbeatable combination! :)
@guyjonson6364
@guyjonson6364 5 жыл бұрын
Very good plane
@backfromcuba
@backfromcuba 5 жыл бұрын
crazy engine nozzles!
@trash4cash454
@trash4cash454 5 жыл бұрын
Really strange engine nozzles...
@backfromcuba
@backfromcuba 5 жыл бұрын
@@trash4cash454 yes and i like saying nozzles. nozzles! :D
@DoctorShocktor
@DoctorShocktor 5 жыл бұрын
Trash4Cash noise reduction fro very loud turbojets. Now they use huge fans at the front to avoid needing massive thrust at the rear only.
@gily3344
@gily3344 5 жыл бұрын
cool
@djpalindrome
@djpalindrome Ай бұрын
The 707 and DC-8 were built like a tank. Completely analog machines with cables, pulleys, and bell-cranks
@tuomasjalava9753
@tuomasjalava9753 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video once again! Any chance for one on ATR's?
@RJ-xj6tm
@RJ-xj6tm 3 жыл бұрын
While related, 707's and KC-135's are two very different aircraft. While the military may have a 707 or two lying around they primarily use KC-135's, not 707's.
@krissp8712
@krissp8712 4 жыл бұрын
While this was focused on the DC8, the DC6 history is more interesting to me! I hope to see one of those videos some day, :) but I don't know if there's enough info from that era.
@michaeltaylor9977
@michaeltaylor9977 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a HUGE Boeing fan, however I thought the DC-8 was a very attractive looking aircraft. I never (that I can remember rode in one) I did ride in DC-10's from National Airlines and Continental Airlines in the 1970's.
@johannesbols57
@johannesbols57 4 жыл бұрын
Sky, have you considered a vid on New York Airways, the helicopter service between JFK and the Pan Am building in Manhattan?
@mahiramvevo
@mahiramvevo 5 жыл бұрын
world wars brought /developped and tested many technologies
@frankgaleon5124
@frankgaleon5124 5 жыл бұрын
Vigneswaran MahiramVEVO and killed millions of people
@antr7493
@antr7493 5 жыл бұрын
@@frankgaleon5124 you are right. feel free to give up your PC, smartphone, video game console, flat screen TV, broadband etc. Because you would want to benefit off of technology that advanced through the killing of millions
@doncarlin9081
@doncarlin9081 5 жыл бұрын
I really regret the loss of McDonnell Douglas as a company. Having another major jetliner manufacture would have spurred more innovation due to the competition, especially between to US companies. Sure Boeing and Airbus are introducing innovations but I bet there would be more and faster new ideas if the jet makers wasn't a duopoly.
@brianhnatiak7134
@brianhnatiak7134 5 жыл бұрын
And Xenu used them to ship people to Teegeeack for mass murder by atomic bomb.
@gmcjetpilot
@gmcjetpilot 5 жыл бұрын
13:12 is that a keg coming out the wheel well?
@burroaks7
@burroaks7 5 жыл бұрын
I know you touched on it a bit and I Know you typically don't cover military aircraft but I feel that the b-29 and tu-4 deserve at least a short. the tu-4 has soooo much lineage and don't get me started on the Boeing side b29----leads to b50 leads to b47 , b47 leads to b52 and dash 80, dash 80 leads to well everything else lets face it lol the b47 b29 \ tu-4 all deserve at least a short or a single conglomerate video. besides the b-47 is just sooooo sexy
@burroaks7
@burroaks7 5 жыл бұрын
also a strong salute to the dc-8. you do excellent work I am always looking forward to the next video
@TheYottaTube
@TheYottaTube 5 жыл бұрын
Ha, I didn't expect to see Elvis in this video.
@CB0408
@CB0408 5 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why the DC 8 and the 707 had such simmilar noses (the convair 990 was also similar). Give and take the nostrils, they look pretty much the same
@xetalq
@xetalq 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, Boeing initially lost the USAF air tanker programme to Lockheed and its L-193 'Constellation II' offering (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_L-193) in 1955. Since the L-193 was not to be ready until a few years after Boeing's air tanker offering (based on the extant 367-80), the USAF ordered 4 Boeing tankers as an interim measure. This quickly turned into an order for 16, and then ballooned into an order for 250 of what had become the KC-135. Shortly thereafter, the USAF cancelled the L-193, and ended up buying a total of 880 variants of Boeing's KC/RC/EC/C-135s. Early in my own airline career, I flew the DC-8 for about a year and a half. I thus have a total of 450 hours in the DC-8, spread out over a mix of the DC-8-73F, the -71F and the -63F. By the time I flew it, the Douglas design was very long in the tooth, despite the new CFM-56-22 engines. The fuselage had been stretched so much, and the MAUW increased likewise (to 355,000 lb) that, during a max weight take-off, the minimum zero-flap manoeuvring speed was some 5 kts faster than the maximum flap extended speed. This meant you had to start retracting the last notch of flaps at about 240 KIAS, and hold the speed below 247 KIAS until the flaps were fully retracted, and then keep the angle of bank to no more than 5º until you had thereafter accelerated to 252 KIAS. Only then could you bank the aircraft up to 30º. During a departure that called for early turns at low level to keep inside a ring of hills whilst you climbed (for example), the various aircraft manoeuvring limitations combined to focus the attention and to concentrate the mind marvellously, and to produce inordinate amounts of stress. Especially on a dark and dirty night, when you entered cloud almost immediately after lift-off, and had to do all of this in the dark, and on instruments.
@stradivarioushardhiantz5179
@stradivarioushardhiantz5179 3 жыл бұрын
Wondering if DC-8-73 re-engined with 4x PW-1724G & latest avionics🛫🤓
@badgerden7080
@badgerden7080 Жыл бұрын
The DC-8 is probably the most narrow plane I have ever flown in. Freaking thing looks like a pencil with wings.
@pknzip
@pknzip 5 жыл бұрын
5:56 Alta quota
@pctshooter
@pctshooter Жыл бұрын
I think the Red Bull RB19 might be as fast as that Red Bull DC-6. 🤣
@charlesmiddleton9952
@charlesmiddleton9952 5 жыл бұрын
The engines were built by a separate company from the aircraft company.
@Degnemla
@Degnemla 5 жыл бұрын
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