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Down Bits (Down Cut) And CNC Routers [What You Didn't Know] - Garrett Fromme

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IDC Woodcraft

IDC Woodcraft

3 жыл бұрын

When it comes to CNC router bits, the down bit is the workhorse. However, most do not understand how to best use it. This video explains what a down bit is for CNC routers and how to use them. Knowing this will help you immensely improve your CNC project outcomes. When you are having surface finish problems around letters and such in your pocket tool paths, it is almost always because of the down-cut bit and how it is used and programmed.
The down bit is very different from the up bit because of the forces that is applied by the spiral of the theflutes.
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@peterward8776
@peterward8776 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing i did not know "set last pass" thin for the clean finish far better than sanding thanks once again
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Peter, its the best time saving trick isn't it? I don't think i've ever met anyone that enjoys sanding!
@wrapssignsandgraphics2019
@wrapssignsandgraphics2019 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been running a cnc for over 20 years and I am very impressed with your content! Love the downcut information! Just ordered a few new downs! Thanks again
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Wraps Signs and Graphics, awesome thank you! I'm sorry for the delayed response, it's been a busy week working on getting out some new content this week!
@dennisdoi8572
@dennisdoi8572 4 ай бұрын
I am a beginning woodworker and don’t own a CNC, but I do have a couple of routers. I had no idea how much difference the up & down cut bits cut the wood! I think you have shown me the reason for my messy cuts! Unfortunately I don’t have any down cut bits so I have to wait until tomorrow to use them!! Thanks so very much for your very excellent & detailed video!!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 4 ай бұрын
dennisdoi8572, you are so welcome my friend. Happy CNCing.
@EpicPovAction
@EpicPovAction 2 ай бұрын
I’ve needed to see this video 10 years ago. So much time not sanding I’ll save now!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 ай бұрын
EpicPovAction, I'm glad you found the video helpful! Sanding is one of those tasks that can make a big difference in the final outcome of your project. Happy woodworking!
@yefrinabrego8360
@yefrinabrego8360 5 ай бұрын
I’m at cero knowledge of working with wood especially a cnc however lately it caught my attention and I found your videos and I got to say that now I want to start my own business this profession seems so interested and fun so thank you for it
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 5 ай бұрын
yefrinabrego8360, first off I want to officially welcome you to the amazing world of cncing and to the channel! I'm glad to be a part of your cnc journey and hopefully make things a little easier along the way! Happy cncing!
@charliezimmer1182
@charliezimmer1182 Жыл бұрын
Once again a awesome tutorial .
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Charlie, that's good to hear brother! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@danwilliams7675
@danwilliams7675 2 жыл бұрын
Us Newbies really appreciate tips like this Garrett. Keep them coming thanks
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dan. I am happy to hear this. I will keep them coming for you, my friend!!
@HemiDad1963
@HemiDad1963 2 жыл бұрын
I never would have believed that the router bit could climb up like that. Thank you for educating me.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Don. It's one of those things learned after many years of experience.
@thehamlinwoodshop
@thehamlinwoodshop 2 жыл бұрын
Convinced me to start using the finish pass option. Thank you!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Hamlin. It'll save you a but load of time
@craigmelvin4889
@craigmelvin4889 2 жыл бұрын
Just made another bit order from you while learning more about Vectric. I never noticed the edit passes option. Thanks for another great tutorial
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Craig. Your bit is on its way! There are so many little tools in vectric, it's hard to catch them all at once.
@lippa618papalee4
@lippa618papalee4 7 ай бұрын
your information is spot on as always Garrett you explain things in a way that even I can understand everything you say!!! I am a brand new future CNC student and loving it!! Thank you for helping understand how everything works together.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 7 ай бұрын
lippa618papalee4, you are so welcome my friend. Happy CNCing.
@Checkitfirst
@Checkitfirst Жыл бұрын
I’m a beginner and I just learned from you a a bit of knowledge that I probably wouldn’t have never learned. Thank you 😊
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Check it first, you are so welcome my friend.
@davidpinson9403
@davidpinson9403 10 ай бұрын
Wow, there was a time when all of this seemed a mystery to me. However, since watching your videos, you have taken the mystery out of cncing. Thank you so much for all your help
@davidpinson9403
@davidpinson9403 10 ай бұрын
What to set up a one on one. How do I do that and what is the cost?
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 10 ай бұрын
DavidPinson, congrats and welcome to the wonderful world of CNC brother!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 10 ай бұрын
David, I am sorry brother but I have not had time to do one-on-ones lately. You can set one up with a sister CNCer Kate, here is the link: idcwoodcraft.com/pages/cnc-router-one-on-one-help
@randyhuffine8430
@randyhuffine8430 3 жыл бұрын
Very good information. I am going to add this video to my go to tips. Ah Ha, the finished product.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Randy. A finished product with a good finish!
@PeteHowlett
@PeteHowlett 3 жыл бұрын
I make two pocket passes. One rough cuts stepped down and undersize. Finish pass is full depth of cut rater - perfect sides and bottom.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter. You figured out the exact right way to do it!
@guyrivard8613
@guyrivard8613 3 жыл бұрын
Garrett, The addition of the last "clean-up" pass feeds my OCD to new levels. It is what gives the project a quality appearance and would heighten the actual value of that project. Thankew ! - - - GR 13 Aug '21
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Guy. You are so right. The finish makes so much difference and by doing a finish pass, it gives it a much better look.
@onedozenwhickedwords
@onedozenwhickedwords 3 жыл бұрын
Following your channel as Im just looking into buying a cnc router, so bagging as much information as i can 👍 Great channel with good information thanks 👍
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Gaz. Thank you for complimenting. And welcome aboard!
@jasonthevideogameguy3363
@jasonthevideogameguy3363 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I've been racking my brain trying to figure out what causes these lines and how to fix them.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Jason, no problem brother. I'm happy to help!
@jimscott64
@jimscott64 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Garret, another good one!! I have noticed what you are showing and never knew there was a fix for that. I also have a question for you. I fall my own trees and have a friend with a Woodmizer saw mill who mills my logs for me. One of my favorite woods for simple not for show projects is Spruce. We can fall trees up to twenty four inches diameter with a wood cutting permit and in some areas even bigger. What I like most about it is that the bottom sections of the trees are almost knot free. I makes really nice clear lumber. And the best part is that it's free. Don't know if you have ever used it but I can tell you this, it is very, very strigy. In this video where you show the difference between the cuts of the up and down cut bits, you can see the top edge of the board where you used the upcut bit is a little rough. That same test on Spruce would leave one to two inch long fibers through the entire cut. So I have been thinking I could use a downcut end mill and set the toolpath to about 1/16" deep and go around the entire project at that depth, then change the bit to an upcut to accommodate the fact that the cut is going to 1/2 or more deep. That way I would have a clean crisp top cut, with no sanding, and a more even bottom cut. What do you think? Would like to hear your thoughts on this. Thanks again Garrett for all the videos. Jim Scott
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Jim, great question! Your thought process is sound and I think this could work really well for you. I haven't done a lot of projects using spruce so I'm not super familiar wit the way it tends to cut. I'd say best method is trial and error on tis one. Worst case is you might need some sanding at the very end! Let me know how this turns out, I'd love to hear!
@carlosrestrepo84
@carlosrestrepo84 3 жыл бұрын
Good Stuff! I am a beginner and this turned on the light 💡
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Carlos. I'm glad. It will make your CNC life much easier, for sure.
@RattlecanGuitarRestorations
@RattlecanGuitarRestorations 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant explanation of what is going on. This video should come in a little box with every CNC router. Well done Garrett!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 7 ай бұрын
RattlecanGuitarRestorations, you are so welcome brother.
@awesomesauce2935
@awesomesauce2935 Жыл бұрын
*psshhhtt* "This is your captain speaking, I'm going to guide you through the basics of CNC routing. We should have a nice flight and teach you to use your CNC router while enroute to our destination" *psshhtt* Great video, time for a new mic for the narrative bits.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Awesomesuace, thank you brother! Glad you liked this one.
@bvinduck
@bvinduck 3 жыл бұрын
I'm new to this CNC routing.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Xray. Stick around and you'll be a seasoned veteran in no time!
@paulwheeler6676
@paulwheeler6676 Жыл бұрын
I just finished a sign for my cousin for a wedding present. I had a lot of sanding that I did to make it flat. I wished I would of watch this before I started I could of saved a lot of time, thank you.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Paul, sorry this one didn't quite find you in time for the sign! Hopefully it will come in handy on the next one though brother! Happy cutting!
@saighusa
@saighusa 7 ай бұрын
I've been CNC routing for a few years. No one explained this problem until now. Many thanks!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 7 ай бұрын
Saighusa, you are so welcome my friend.
@AlanAJRoberts
@AlanAJRoberts 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Alan, glad to help!
@cjtoledor
@cjtoledor 2 жыл бұрын
Running a second pass makes all the sense in the world ! Then you showed the machine in action ! Final results awesome !😎😎🤙🤙👌👌
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Cjtoledor, glad to hear that you had your "aha" moment with the second pass. And you are totally right, the machine in action with the final results make for an awesome finished project.
@user-ol8oh8tz4e
@user-ol8oh8tz4e 7 ай бұрын
Good video, I'm taking my first steps in the world of CNC and this is grate information to me with almost no experience. THANKS
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 7 ай бұрын
You are so welcome brother! Happy CNCing.
@billteague8709
@billteague8709 3 жыл бұрын
Very clear explanation
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Bill. Thank you. What kind of projects do you make on your CNC?
@dalemanley9662
@dalemanley9662 Жыл бұрын
Never ran a cnc but do have a mini mill and yes always account for a thin clean up pass to bring it to your dimensions
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Dale, true that brother! Always a good idea to bring it up to the dimensions you are looking for.
@anthonywindle7503
@anthonywindle7503 4 ай бұрын
Wow.... mind blown....I never thought about the pressure from the sides etc. I always thought it was the wood flexing.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 4 ай бұрын
anthonywindle, glad to hear this one cleared some things up for you brother!
@danielbarnes8908
@danielbarnes8908 2 жыл бұрын
I am new to the CNC. I purchased my cnc about a year and half ago. I have had no one personally to show me anything about cnc work, so I have been watching youtube videos such as these to learn how to get better. Thanks for the great information!! The aha moment for me is when you explained the mechanics of the up cut and down cut bits. I have been struggling for a while with clean up on my projects, which can take alot of time depending on the size of the project. This video has been very informative and thanks for taking the time to put it on youtube. Looking forward to watching other videos.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Daniel, I know that overwhelming feeling trying to figure everything out on your own! I'm glad you found the channel, we have an awesome community of CNC brothers and sisters here to lean on for support. I live for those aha moments, thanks for sharing.Hopefully cleaning up your projects won't be such a hassle from now on! Keep up the good work!
@jasonfellows5610
@jasonfellows5610 2 жыл бұрын
lightbulb moment...so obvious when explained so well.....keep up good work
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason!!
@scottvallie4495
@scottvallie4495 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the link this helped on some of the issues we discussed..
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Scott, glad to hear this one helped you brother!
@BGraves
@BGraves 2 жыл бұрын
If you software supports it, Inner corner feed rate reduction will do wonders as well. Use the stubbiest endmill possible. I plow everything away with a 90% step over with a stubby 3/8 or 1/2 with a light chip load to reduce large tearout. All the same concepts apply with metal as well except the metal doesn't rip out chunks from the tool pressure
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Brian, Great info, thanks for sharing brother.
@denisebrantley3276
@denisebrantley3276 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this tip . It really does give a nice clean finish
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
you're welcome Dennis. You'll be happy you took the extra time on the finish cut for sure.
@alwayscensored6871
@alwayscensored6871 Жыл бұрын
Discovering why my upcut cuts deeper than I thought. Down cut and finishing pass makes lots of sense.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Always Censored, glad this video helped you brother. Its amazing how much a small change to a bit can make such a big difference isnt it?
@GyWO10
@GyWO10 Жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you for producing this video because I ruin 3 attempts at making a house warming gift for a friend because it left obvious level differences. I will certainly give this step a try!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Dawayne, that can be frustrating for sure. Hopefully it turns out perfect this time!
@brucekring7602
@brucekring7602 2 жыл бұрын
thanks sure saves a lot of sanding
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
You are so right, Bruce! Yes it does!
@COLJimC
@COLJimC 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, the tiny final pass will help me greatly! I've spent hours cleaning the bottom of pocket areas to meet my standards.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Jim, that is great to hear my friend. Makes your life a whole lot easier doesn't it?
@richardmcdonald9410
@richardmcdonald9410 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. After 40 years in machine work this wood stuff is a little different.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Richard. Yes, it definitely is. I had to relearn many things as well.
@BHWoodcrafters
@BHWoodcrafters 6 ай бұрын
WOW!! I've had this problem for almost two years now. I didn't know what a final pass was or how to do it. You never seem to impress me with your videos , this one if from two years ago and I am just now seeing it. A couple of cups of coffee is coming your way my friend,
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 6 ай бұрын
BHWoodcrafters, right on brother! So happy to hear this one helped you.
@TheKirk48
@TheKirk48 2 жыл бұрын
I learn so much from these videos, I can’t thank you enough.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Steve, glad to help my friend!
@jasonoliver2769
@jasonoliver2769 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this advisory "trick". I think you're right as well. The people who find this out early on will have greater success on their projects, therefore, increasing their excitement and desire to create more. Well done Garrett!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jason. Yes, I hope every single CNC'er gets to this video for that very reason. I think this is the most frustrating thing people come across when they start CNC'ing.
@WindRidgeWoodCrafts
@WindRidgeWoodCrafts 3 жыл бұрын
Great info, Garrett. I've been doing something similar by using a pair of toolpaths, a roughing pass and a finishing pass, for the paths where this is needed/relevant. The roughing pass will typically stop 0.01 above the final depth. The finishing pass will take care of the final 0.01, as well as have a smaller stepover and a higher feed rate. For instance, the roughing pass might have a 0.1 DOC, a 25% stepover and a feed of 60 IPM. The finishing pass will be 0.01 DOC, 10% stepover and feed rate of 100 IPM. Yes, it takes longer, but still shorter time than cleaning up without the finishing pass.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent. You've got it figured out! It usually takes a painful journey of sanding and realising it is much more worth letting the machine spend extra time at it.
@christianprobst8130
@christianprobst8130 3 жыл бұрын
Aha! Very informational. Thanks!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Christian. Thank you. hope it solves some issues you might be having.
@YaoSilverStationMix
@YaoSilverStationMix 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this very instructive video. greetings from Puerto Rico. Thank you.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome JWV!
@haroldlanfear3618
@haroldlanfear3618 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the video and it had good information. A small negative was that I'd prefer less discussion. Some was repetition and I have to admit, I do have a short attention span. Overall, a good video and great explanation of the issue and how to fix it.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Harold. I do repeat myself. I'll work on it. Thanks for pointing that out, and for the compliment.
@kevinleemedlin385
@kevinleemedlin385 2 жыл бұрын
I don't even have my CNC yet, but I can already tell that THIS IS AWESOME INFO HERE! I'm sure this will come up, and now I have a head start on being able to address it--maybe even before it happens! Thanks! (From a fellow Jeep guy!)
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Kevin, you will know what to do to almost stop this from happening completely now!
@sfg18b
@sfg18b Жыл бұрын
It makes sense. Being more green then grass. I’ll just trust in the info. I’ve been following your videos. Just installed my vcarve pro. It will take me a little but I’ll get it. I have to, I have a great teacher.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
sfg18b, I'm happy to help brother! You got this!
@gregschlierf2931
@gregschlierf2931 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought you would make the first pass with the Down Bit, then switch to up for the end. But this makes perfect sense. As always, Great video.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Greg. I didn't switch up, because I didn't need to. Although, it's not a bad idea if you want to take the extra step.
@lloydsnyder2738
@lloydsnyder2738 3 жыл бұрын
Well said. That last pass may take some time, but it is worth it.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Lloyd. Just turn up the feed rate for the last pass.
@1powelrainbow2
@1powelrainbow2 Жыл бұрын
I'm new to CNC (haven't bought mine just yet) and just discovered your videos and I'm so happy I did! Even though I have done some reading into it, so many of your videos have given me so much more. Subscribed!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
1powelrainbow, welcome to the wonderful world of CNC. Happy to have you here.
@chrisrobinson9540
@chrisrobinson9540 2 жыл бұрын
Hi just joined. This proves to me that what some (so called experts/experienced users) give advice on any particular problem often is a load of ____. I will soon be buying my first cnc (at long last) so now I will be starting out with, at least some good knowledge, and not fed a load of BS by people who don't know anything about it all. Thanks and please keep them coming!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris. Sorry for the delay in responding. I appreciate what you shared and I hope the videos I create for you and other CNC'ers will help you immensely!
@devinwetzel6751
@devinwetzel6751 3 жыл бұрын
Machining engineer here and just want to say awesome information. I deal with aluminum all day and going through your videos I'm learning TONS especially the difference in bits I need for my own personal router. Thanks so much. Your videos are exactly what I was looking for. Don't take these with a grain of salt all.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Devin. Thank you. With this comment, I will definitely keep making videos. Mechanical engineer, huh. A brother in the engineering industry…manufacturing process engineer in my day.
@jrz931
@jrz931 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for that. I’m sure it will save me a lot of time in frustration.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 7 ай бұрын
jrz931, glad to help my friend! Happy cutting!
@Cobyvincenr
@Cobyvincenr 4 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for that bit of information, this actually happened to me yesterday. Excited for tomorrow.... the tool set I ordered from you will be coming in, can't wait to put them to work. Thanks for all the great videos.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 4 ай бұрын
Cobyvincenr, you are so welcome my friend! I am excited for you to get your bits.
@davidlefurge2946
@davidlefurge2946 5 ай бұрын
My growing CNC knowledge needed this tip, appreciate it Garret.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 5 ай бұрын
davidlefurge2946, glad to hear it brother!
@darwinw4226
@darwinw4226 3 жыл бұрын
This video is worth its weight in gold!! Thank you!!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Darwin! Thank you and you are totally welcome!!!
@StanProper
@StanProper 7 ай бұрын
Great video, Garrett! While watching the video, I was thinking of making a final, thin pass with an upcut bit. Never thought of using vCarve to solve the problem with a final pass. That's the reason why I watch all of your videos. Thanks so much for your help. Stan
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 7 ай бұрын
Stan, you are so welcome brother! Happy to hear this video helped.
@wilburmiller1191
@wilburmiller1191 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for the great information I ordered your bits and got them going try them in my ar8 axiom machine been playing with cnc for a year learning everyday thanks
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Wilbur. I remember writing your card. Remember to send pictures of your projects!
@teamchiina7111
@teamchiina7111 Жыл бұрын
I've been doing this since my first sign but I never really knew why, thanks for the mechanical breakdown!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Teamchina, glad this one helped brother!
@dougptankerengr759
@dougptankerengr759 3 жыл бұрын
great explanation
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Doug
@tovrin
@tovrin Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir, i thought i was well informed already but this was great knowledge i did not know.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Scot, I'm glad it was helpful brother! Keep up the good work!
@bobburks4560
@bobburks4560 Жыл бұрын
AHA!!!! I had actually stopped doing some lettering due to marks and uneven levels that I got. Now I can do them knowing that I will get a great, smooth result and finish. Thanks for all your great advice and information.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Bob, right on brother! Glad to hear this video set you on the right track.
@bvinduck
@bvinduck 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your info! I greatly appreciate your help!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
You got it brother. More to come...
@mycowboyways915
@mycowboyways915 Жыл бұрын
Great information !
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
MyCowboyWays, glad you liked this one brother!
@gregrodney5139
@gregrodney5139 3 жыл бұрын
When I first started down the dark road of CNC routers. I had the same problems, but what I DID observe was the lack of my machine's rigidity. Anything you can do to beef up your machine will minimize witness marks. You'd be surprised at what some light weight aluminum angle can do for a machine's rigidity. You won't eliminate the witness marks entirely , so Garrett's solution is the one to go with!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Greg. Thank you for contributing here. I always enjoy it when other CNC'ers add to things I miss.
@nac4965
@nac4965 2 жыл бұрын
this comment 100% i typically work with 2000 lb steel milling machines (bridgeport) that have zero rigidity issues- i was unpleasantly surprised while unpacking my next wave desktop cnc to find it was built with a plastic frame and aluminum top- the whole thing flexes under stress. I've already begun to contimplate rebuilding the entire cnc with aluminum!
@dennismcaleer242
@dennismcaleer242 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had this happen with v bits when I was making a Chicago Blackhawks carve. Thanks this helps a lot! I used to chisel and sand out the burrs, not anymore thanks to you!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dennis. You will have much better results now that you know this!!!
@bubba6945
@bubba6945 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this was something i didnt think about but it makes sense
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Brian, glad it was helpful brother!
@esmirhodzic981
@esmirhodzic981 Жыл бұрын
dude, to put this simply, your are amazing.Thank you
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Esmir, glad this video helped you brother!
@scottfurlong5475
@scottfurlong5475 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent tip. I'm a beginner and I haven't even cut anything yet, waiting on of repair. You've already helped me.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Scott. I'm really glad to hear this. How did it help you?
@kevinmatthews2620
@kevinmatthews2620 3 жыл бұрын
Brillant Garrett so simple yet smart, you helped in my research into buying a cnc machine here in the Uk thanks i have subbed you too :)
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kevin. Welcome to the community! So, what CNC are you getting?
@nac4965
@nac4965 2 жыл бұрын
funny- I'm new to the cnc desktop world but I've been manual milling with a bridgeport for a decade, and i see the same deviation while milling soft metals with an up-cut end mill- and i just eventually learned it was the material pulling the tool into it- (another reason not to use an adjustable drill chuck on an end mill vs a dedicated collet- as the cutting force seen between the tool and metal will yank the chuck right out of the spindle!) it's far less obvious with metal vs wood especially between using a steel bridgeport milling machine vs a plastic & aluminum cnc desktop, but it does happen.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Just Another Day, those are all great points man! These desktop routers are definitely deflection limited! Just like you said a bridgeport can do things that a cnc router isn't designed to do! Great looking out!
@marthacameron9459
@marthacameron9459 2 жыл бұрын
So two Aha! moments on this video....I've had my digital calipers for 5 years now. I mostly used them for pen turning. I ashamed to admit that I never knew you could use the calipers to measure the depth by using the other end. I was just compiling to my husband yesterday that I wish I had an accurate way of measuring the depth of something. Palm plant to my face... DUH. 2nd, while I understood the difference between the upcut and downcut bits...I didn't realize why the downcut bit leaves a burr mark. Now I know. Thanks Garrett.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Martha. Never be embarassed. We only know what we know...until someone shows us!
@paulbramhall9157
@paulbramhall9157 Жыл бұрын
Again thank you Sir
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Paul, no problem brother! Glad to help
@kennystamp8457
@kennystamp8457 3 жыл бұрын
I’m impressed my ha ha moment is here’s a gentleman I can relate to I’ve been a carpenter 50+, a cnc operator not so long. KZbin videos are great, but always leave a ton of questions and yet no place to get answers.....so I like the idea of one on one service your offering, how do I get to arrange this...????
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kenny. I know the feeling of more questions. I wish I could answer them all in one video. You can set up a one on one here: calendly.com/garrettfromme/60-min
@rickmath
@rickmath 3 жыл бұрын
Great video leaned allot will keep watching your vids. Thanks
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Rick. Welcome to the community! And for you, I will keep making those videos.
@jer428
@jer428 Жыл бұрын
Great info and very informative, love your videos
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Jer, thank you brother. Glad you liked this one.
@katslod2
@katslod2 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff Garrett. I guess I did this with a second manual pass, but now I know what the finishing pass is for instead. This keeps me from having to create a second toolpath just slightly deeper. Much appreciated.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Kat. Yeah, it's one of those little features made specifically for second finishing passes so you don;t have to generate a second toolpath.
@garyjadick1774
@garyjadick1774 7 ай бұрын
Thanks Garrett was having this issue video just made me see what I am doing wrong.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 7 ай бұрын
garyjadick, so glad to hear that brother! Happy CNCing.
@SW-if5ye
@SW-if5ye Жыл бұрын
Great video very informative
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
S W, glad you liked this one my friend.
@sarahknight2586
@sarahknight2586 3 жыл бұрын
Great job, thanks for sharing!!!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Sarah, you are welcome :)
@John-xm7yc
@John-xm7yc 2 жыл бұрын
This gave me a very clear example of taking every part of the project into consideration during job setup and design. Raster with the grain baby, yeah!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Hey John. I'm definitely glad you got some takeaways. Yes, raster with the grain makes so much difference!
@gerrysmith4493
@gerrysmith4493 2 жыл бұрын
Hi I have been driving myself nuts about this!!Thank you. Gerry Smith
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Gerry. I'm so glad I gad the answer. Did the project come out right that you were working on?
@davidhearne7881
@davidhearne7881 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Don't have a CNC yet like your videos
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hi David. That you're watching these...I think you'll have one sooner than you think.
@iskons
@iskons 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly at 5:41 I said “AH OKAY MAKES SENSE” thank you for this knowledge! I haven’t gotten my CNC router yet but I’m planning to get one soon in a few months time. Been watching so much of your videos I’m really excited for what’s to come. Will order your beginner router bit set too!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Iskons. Welcome to the CNC club, even if you don't have your machine yet. It's clear by what you said here that you are absolutely getting one!
@iskons
@iskons 3 жыл бұрын
@@IDCWoodcraft I’m aiming for the Onefinity! Hopefully will get it shipped all the way to Singapore by end of 2021 :)
@lehcim777
@lehcim777 Жыл бұрын
I did have an Aha! Moment, you described my issue perfectly I even get artifact with an 1/8 bit. Unfortunately my software doesn’t have the second pass option. Thanks for the video.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Michael, right on brother! Its always great to finally get that "Aha!" moment.
@handengraving6182
@handengraving6182 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful stuff for the Infant Beginner Garrett. Keep on Keepen on! Have a Great Day.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Lenny. As long as the beginner sticks to this channel, they won't stay a beginner for very long!
@randito70030
@randito70030 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and explanation. You my friend have helped me get a much better understanding of CNC related stuff. Your enthusiasm shows through in your videos and makes them a pleasure to watch.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Randito. Thank you so much for sharing that. Yes, definitely enthusiastic. Even more important...you have gotten much better at your designing and projects...the ultimate goal.
@michaelklausing7777
@michaelklausing7777 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always been doing a .01 final pass and am still getting some of these steps. I appreciate the insight. I’ll try decreasing to .005 and raster thank you for the insight. Loving the hog bit! Keep up the great work!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Michael, try it out and see how it goes brother! Glad to hear you are enjoying the HOG.
@rubenhrc5901
@rubenhrc5901 2 жыл бұрын
Great job I can't wait to get my CNC thank you for all your assistance.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Ruben, you're so welcome brother! I can't wait for you to get your cnc either!
@richardwhitehead829
@richardwhitehead829 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Garrett, I am a beginner with a CNC router, Shop Sabre 23, and have been watching your videos for the last 6 months and they have been extremely helpful. Keep up the good work.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard! Glad that you like them.
@stuartjones2541
@stuartjones2541 3 жыл бұрын
this video helped me understand the difference between up and down - big thanks
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Stuart. You are very welcome!!
@Litriem
@Litriem 3 жыл бұрын
Great training Garrett. I saw this stair stepping but didn’t know what caused it so thank you.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt. You are welcome. It's one of those things that eludes us until we really look at the mechanics behind it.
@simonchambers3900
@simonchambers3900 5 ай бұрын
Nice one Garrett 👍
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 5 ай бұрын
Simon, thanks brother! Happy cncing!
@HeavyIronAcres
@HeavyIronAcres 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Garrett! I bought a used cnc router a few months ago and as I've climbed the steep learning curve your videos have helped me several times. Thanks for doing this! Its appreciated.
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Heavy. This is good to hear. Exactly what I want to accomplish. You might want to download this PDF. It has all my videos in order. Here's the link → bit.ly/3mLHGfI
@alexmolion2265
@alexmolion2265 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome like always. Full of information and advice. And very understandable for any level . Greetings from Norway 🇳🇴
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Alex from Norway! Thank you.
@leonbrink1627
@leonbrink1627 Жыл бұрын
Really great info thanks
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft Жыл бұрын
Leon, you are so welcome brother.
@mchtzn
@mchtzn 9 ай бұрын
Perfect information, thank you Sir!
@IDCWoodcraft
@IDCWoodcraft 9 ай бұрын
mchtzn, no problem brother I'm happy to help!
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