Down To You (Pseudo/Lyric Video)

[@juhthefox2804]

the references from the music videos of past albums made me scream one after another. Simply perfect

[@Bandit69ply]

I know right!? When I saw Astoria and the skeleton key I thought that was pretty wicked!

[@dancingllama2392]

All the images really show how far this band has come. Can't wait for Haven

[@Mtrench]

6 days!

[@cityyliights_]

I'm seeing lots of (well-intentioned, but) misinformed discussion in these comments about generative AI (genAI)/AI art, so as a semi-professional visual artist who's looked into this specific video a bit, here's what's ACTUALLY gone down (to the best of my knowledge!): *TL;DR: The images are not AI generated, they are still frames that were chosen from past music videos, which have had a comic book-esque filter applied to them. Many programs that provide these filters have started forcefully integrating genAI into their filters, and they don't give users any way of opting out of this. So the people behind this MV had essentially no control over the use of AI in their tools! It was most likely used without any malicious intent- so instead of being upset at the band and their team, direct that frustration to the programs who are forcing people into this position.* A photographer who has been known to work with the band for years, Cass O'Neil, confirmed on their Instagram story that they hand-picked every single frame used in this video, choosing from older MVs of the band! They also confirmed that the MV was made by putting the chosen stills through a comic book style filter, and then manually animating them together in a video editing program. *You can see a screenshot of the Instagram story here* (imgur.com/a/NTbC7QG) (Edit: I don't know how to used Imgur, sorry 😭). So for those who are worried that the band('s team) opted to not pay or involve any human creatives in this, that is false. *Human creatives were directly involved with every step of the process for this video.* The filtered versions of the images that we see in the video are not hand-drawn, they are images with a filter applied, but human creatives were still the ones putting it together! What most likely happened here is that the program that was used to apply the filter (most likely Photoshop or something similar) has incorporated AI into their filter tools. Filters like this have existed for decades without the use of genAI, but recently, many major companies and programs have been forcefully integrating genAI into their tools, and not giving users a way to opt out. There are plenty of articles discussing this, and even Adobe/Photoshop themself have been discussing it very loudly and very frequently for the last few months. *Basically what this means is that when the humans behind this video clicked the button to add the filter, the program they were using automatically used genAI instead of/alongside the filter.* The humans behind this video have zero control over what the companies behind their programs have implemented into their tools, and most likely were not aware, or were not able to opt out/use a different program without genAI. All this to say that, with time crunches and other limitations likely also being present (budget, small team, etc.), *it is incredibly likely the team behind this MV had zero malicious intent behind the use of genAI. What most likely happened is that they were unaware of the use of genAI, or unable to work with tools that didn't use genAI.* But there are still human creatives who still put a lot of care and work into this video, and were compensated for it! The band themselves (Josh, Mike, Matt, Ian) are not the ones responsible for making this video, so directing any frustration you have at them is unproductive. The band's team(s) and other creatives at 604 Records are the ones who made it, and they did a great job! It's just unfortunate that the tools they used forced genAI into the project. If you are frustrated/upset/etc. with the use of genAI in this MV, please don't direct those feelings towards the band and/or their team. To do so would be unfair, and wouldn't lead to any real benefit or change, since it was out of their hands. If you feel strongly about the use of genAI art, I want to ask that you please direct that frustration towards the major companies and corporations who are forcing human creatives to use genAI, and refusing to hire human artists in place of genAI. That's where change needs to be seen, and that is the root of this problem. *The major companies who force genAI into their programs without letting users opt out are the reason why this video has genAI in it.* I left a similar comment to this earlier but it's since disappeared, so I hope this one sticks around. I'm not here to debate the ethics/etc. of genAI rn, because I think that's too big a discussion to have in a KZbin comment section. I'm only making this comment to try and keep people informed and stop the (likely well-intentioned) spread of misinformation, especially since that misinformation has caused negative pushback towards the band and their team(s). I only want to use the knowledge I have to help people understand what happened with this video, so they know how to move forward with the feelings they might have about it. Thanks! :D

[@choriphan]

thanks for the info!

[@SaltyLemonss]

This song is stuck in my head in a way no song has ever been before. It's already playing from the moment I wake up. When I listen to other songs this one is still in my brain. Something about this song is just really special!

[@tennyopallas]

Ok, I rewatched every single music video to figure them all out. Forest: Fallout Crashed car: Astoria Key: Fallout Broken chandelier: Good to You Cheetah print leggings by pool: By Now Brick building: Cross My Heart Astoria Hotel: Astoria Candle: One Love Red background, blue guitar: Rhythm of your Heart Josh silhouette: By Now??? (not sure but the hair matches best) Shoes: All To Myself Suburban House: Astoria B&W house: Glimmer Grease legs: Haven't Had Enough Oregon coast: Astoria Horizon: By Now Car driving: By Now Fire explosion: Fallout Tudor House: Glimmer Car Wash: Astoria Spilled Wine: Good To You Gold skull key: By Now Curtains on Fire: Celebrity Status Hands: Haven't Had Enough Woman in Doorway: Cross My Heart Goldfish: One Love Drumsticks, red light: I Knew You When Risky Business Stairway: Desperate Measures Window: Glimmer Church Steeple: By Now Silhouette walking: By Now Matt and Josh silhouette: ??? (I feel like this is an iconic image burned in my brain but can't place it) Fairy lights: I Knew You When Woman in white: Astoria Van on bridge: Astoria Blue guitar: Cross My Heart Ocean: Astoria Woman in front of Tudor house: Glimmer Boots: This Means War Normal Life house then wolves: A Normal Life Parade with blue background: Cross My Heart Shoe running: Fallout Rafters with yellow lights: Beside You Key necklace: Stutter Josh silhouette walking: By Now Swimming drums: One Love Skyline: Beside You Underwater: One Love Rural gas station: Astoria Blue lights: Rhythm of your Heart Piano red tie: Good To You V guitar: Rhythm of your Heart Purple smoke playing guitar: By Now Mike and Josh sunset silhouettes: By Now Full band blue background: Lightning and Thunder Forest 2: Astoria Side note, love how early videos tended to be pop culture references of other things (like Shake Tramp starting with those Queen heads) and now they can have an entire video referencing just themselves.

[@shebopskie]

thanks! this is so cool

[@vanessasmith1539]

you're the hero we needed but couldn't bring ourselves to ask for

[@Mewwolf]

I’m really getting the feeling this is going to be my favorite album. Goosebumps for every song!!

[@1bookfisher335]

Holy shit this was fucking amazing, all the references... I love these guys so much

[@Vampiress210]

I love it so much! I love how it shows little glimpses of their past albums and songs😍 I have a strong feeling that this will be their best album yet and I am so excited for it!🥰😍❤️ I can’t wait!❤️❤️❤️

[@kristinwilliams1983]

The lore I am anticipating here!!!!!!! 🤞🏻🔥

[@vanessasmith1539]

These guys are what truly make me proud to be a Canadian :')

[@ZoulStar]

OMG ALL THE REFERENCES FROM THE PREVIOUS MUSIC VIDEOS!!!

[@Marcossds]

Volviste con todo Marianas Trench, cómo te extrañaba! ❣

[@lightningspitflash]

Waos eres de LATAM amigo??????😮

[@Marcossds]

@@lightningspitflash Sii, de Argentina! Me gusta Marianas Trench desde Masterpiece!

[@lightningspitflash]

@@Marcossdsufff amigo , me alegra que hayas contestado xD En este año ando buscando o reunido a los tranchers de LATAM , tengo grupo de face (que no he subido mucho xd) y una cuenta de tiktok(estoy más activa) y se me hace algo difícil ver cada cosa 2 aaaaaaaa

[@litacakes3422]

You guys 100% absolutely NEVER MISS.

[@sarahmccullough514]

This is amazing! Absolutely cannot wait for Haven ❤🥰

[@jeanettefrantal]

My FAVORITE new song…so far!!! Love, love, love it!!! ❤❤❤❤❤

[@willshelby6172]

This song is DEFINITELY my fav of the three singles (not including a Normal Life) so far!

[@JustDuckiest]

HELL YEAH!!! SO pumped for the whole album

[@MN-eq4qe]

I LOVE THIS SONG I LOVE MARIANAS TRENCH SO MUCH ITS JUST SOOOOO PERFECT I KEEP THIS ON REPEATTT

[@Bandit69ply]

What a great song! Always loved your style guys and this just reminds me why I love your music!

[@virinaa]

fav song from this albumm

[@bDz416]

The best single released off this up & coming project, thus far... ...💯

[@letizia.f]

This song gave me goosebumps ❤

[@Theveganlaowai]

this song is seriously like a drug Its scratches my brain just right. can't wait to see you guys next month :,)

[@raekerzner6203]

Brilliant! Just brilliant! Must re-watch to catch all the references.

[@marabtskpopfanarts7429]

You guys never disappoint love it! ❤

[@allyson9596]

I’d love if they did an eras tour one day

[@Mtrench]

What's your favourite era?

[@allyson9596]

@@Mtrench Ever After! It was the first album where I discovered your music :)

[@juhthefox2804]

​@@allyson9596I also got to know the band through Ever After, the first song I heard was Toy Soldiers.

[@caifabe8050]

​@@MtrenchFix Me and Masterpiece Theatre eras

[@rockellex]

THAT WOULD BE AMAZING!!! I really hope they decide to do something like that 😍 also, Ever After was my first album too! Love that album ❤

[@zabethrenaldo]

What a fun compilation of past music videos!! 😍😍 I'm loving the Haven Era!!! 💜

[@jaydayart9526]

All of the references are killing me aaa!!!! I am so in love!

[@TifaAnnTheEmpressJourney]

This artwork so beautifully captured everything from the beginning to present ❤️‍🔥 This Is my new favorite thing🤩❤️🤩 🎼 🗝️

[@MushroomRedLol]

CANT WAIT FOR THE REST ON THE 30THHHHHH🎉🎉🎉

[@Mtrench]

WE CAN'T WAIT EITHER

[@LMF1716]

With all the songs I've listened to so far this album has the potential to rival masterpiece theater for my favorite

[@rschiel50]

It hits my heart in the right place! ❤

[@emo_centric]

This should be a top 10 hit

[@rosiered3403]

Of course I love it ❤. There was no doubt I wouldn't.

[@Neakco]

I am so excited for more

[@FriendshapedFae]

Absolutely my new favorite bop.

[@blushielushie]

You can do no wrong Marianas Trench!! Can’t wait till the 30th!!

[@maggiereid2865]

I’m soo ready🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

[@herwolf1125]

I friggin love this!!!

[@anthonyreed480]

Sick track. Love it. Added to playlist.

[@Videosnobodywillwatch]

Cannot wait for Haven! 🤩

[@daisy88ann]

This video is a fabulous comic book.

[@tennyopallas]

The way i screamed at the All to Myself shoe!

[@ambermitchell7745]

SUPER STOKED FOR MORE!

[@melissavaught9743]

SO MUCH HAPPY!!!!!!!

[@Usedtobebillie]

It’s Stay by Kid Laroi isn’t it?

[@quanticprophecy]

Hell yeah! Another true bop.

[@StrangeAngel03]

Crying forever. 😭

[@nathanieljoanisse]

Omg im obsessed ❤❤❤

[@joyholmes254]

ALL OF THE CALLBACKS!!!! ❤❤❤❤ I’m not ready for Haven. Not at all.

[@lightningspitflash]

épico, no esperaba esa ilustraciones

[@caifabe8050]

yup, this is deff my favourite song off the new record FUCK, this is so good

[@jabsmacado]

so so good

[@lunaoak6741]

AGGGGGHH🎉🎉🎉 I can not waaaait

[@jessicarodrigues4865]

Perfect ❤

[@Blaine_Halverson]

Yesssssss

[@Straw_to_my_berry]

Dude... help... this is amazing.

[@Xx15deideixX]

so beautiful ❤

[@Straw_to_my_berry]

Nice job guys ❤🎉

[@sephirothacacia9515]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[@valentineward6761]

Why does this feel like the last album 🥲

[@heuyann7999]

❤

[@cymynom2747]

ram ranch really rocks

[@schmourt]

FELL BACK ON

[@daisy88ann]

Every song they make is a masterpiece.

[@Phantomstories1831]

Still loving the music but the original albums always be my fave I've been there be4 u guys got signed cause of Ian lol

[@earthrequiem5080]

oh the nostalgia

[@Alexscofi]

Now we just need to create the anime that this will be the intro for!

[@slipperyslope3912]

Mariana's Trench isn't getting the love or exposure they deserve. I'm annoyed by this.

[@5_9oui]

🎉🎉🎉

[@may.d.a.y]

is anyone else hearing the AOT opening?

[@TheGorepill]

These aren't ai generated images, right??? I hope not but it really looks like ai, and screencaps from past music videos ran through ai filters :(

[@elijupiter9081]

this is what i thought, i really hope not but it looks like it :(

[@ZoulStar]

Yeah, it definitely looks to the case. I hope I’m wrong but I highly doubt it

[@virus-eiiz]

it better not be 😭😭 massively disappointed if that's the case

[@BriEva13]

Actually, they look like screenshots with a filter on them to make them look like a comic. Can't say that certain though but that's what it looks like to me.

[@ZoulStar]

@@BriEva13 that’s what I thought too. We don’t really know for sure unfortunately. Who knows

[@Anonymous_5774]

Does anyone have the link to the discord server? I cannot find it anywhere 😭😭

[@mizdelige]

Well, I think AI has us all clutching our pearls , but to be honest this looks like authentic stylistic film making. Years before AI ruled the world, people used filters like this and nobody batted an eye. The images used in this video feel authentically harvested by human eye , with a cool comic book filter to tell a story

[@TheodorusNuts]

AI IS BAD YOU DINGUS

[@TopRamenx3]

Sorry but I cannot listen to this without thinking of Kid Laroi''s Stay. Lmao It's literally beat for beat.

[@michelines.-perreault1522]

Great now I can't unhear it

[@SunshineBeloved17]

Do you scream when you see Josh's shoes from All to Myself because a core memory is in grade 10 your friend downloaded the video on her fancy new phone and you watched it repeatedly in class when the teacher wasn't looking. Or are you normal lmao

[@sarahsusantube7039]

ME THO LMAOO

[@victorperkov3817]

WITHOUT YOU OR WITH MARINAS TENCH

[@nevertrumpfromthejump]

Disappointment is your favorite song being the shortest on a new album :'/

[@daisy88ann]

They have never made a song that I didn't like.

[@SpiralCee]

Great aesthetic on this video. I love the song, but wish it had more lyrics. Seems repetitive.

[@FerretsInBrandonMb]

I see a ref to TJRS best of me? Unless I’m wrong

[@mdmasumpatowary5959]

will

[@Alexscofi]

Who else got sent here from the anime opening video?

[@thewolvesrunwild]

Honestly would have liked it better if the images weren't ai. Loved the pulls from past music vids but cmon its not that hard to just pay an artist to make images rather than run them through a filter...

[@elijupiter9081]

@@thewolvesrunwild agreed. really disappointed as there’s so many artists out there that would be happy to make these images!

[@lightningspitflash]

Well, they have not yet confirmed if it was done with AI

[@stoof96]

​@@lightningspitflashi mean, we have eyes. It is ai.

[@krystingates2474]

AI is different than a filter, no? My old slide phone had a filter that would make things look "cartoon" like the images in this video. The images are real and pulled from their own videos, they just have a filter over them to make them look like that. I would be surprised if it was AI considering they used a real artist for A Normal Life.

[@stoof96]

@@krystingates2474 dude, look at the text at 2:04. It's not a filter. It's ai.

[@Newt0802]

fr why is this a juiced up version of stay by JB and Kid Laroi lmao

[@kathleenpilatzke]

Love the song, but the images look AI generated?

[@himagrant13]

Stay- Kid Laroi???? I’ve loved these guys for forever, but it’s a bit too close!

[@rindakratie3597]

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[@ryangraham7012]

The course is very similar to stay but Justin Bieber

[@SS-rr7by]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm