Gina's Depersonalization Disorder Recovery Story (2023)

[@Dpmanual]

Thanks to Gina for sharing her Depersonalization recovery story! 👏 And you can find out more about my book The DP Manual here 👉👉www.dpmanual.com/purchase/

[@motomon9848]

Thanks for the help I have been better for awhile now and will now unsubscribe and leave that time behind me. All who are going through it just know it does go away 😊

[@Dpmanual]

Glad to have been of help! 😊

[@ravishekkumar6703]

Did you faced highly depressed, emotional numbness,, inner panic , please help me..

[@motomon9848]

@@ravishekkumar6703 yes I did. I was even afraid to look at my family’s faces or my dogs face because it might not look like i remembered. I felt strong depression as well. I would meditate and walk outside but those didn’t seem to help. Meditation maybe helped a bit. Time and doing different things. Volunteering and meeting new people and growing new bonds seemed to help me.

[@vinylg3421]

​@@motomon9848 i am scared of looking at other people too, especially my family.. and being around people scares me.. and I cant sit still or concentrate on anything either. I then try to be on my phone , and even on my phone I cant watch anything for long without panicking, especially if I am listening or watching and not actively doing anything with my hands. Any advice for this?

[@andypanel7280]

Congratulations!!

[@XpapricaX]

When she said she felt things were getting far away. That is the worsstttt feeeling ever!!

[@Dpmanual]

Don’t worry, visual symptoms like that are super common with DPDR and will fade away and stop as you recover 😊 www.dpmanual.com/articles/does-depersonalization-affect-vision/

[@manmantooflii2447]

Her symptoms were truly accurate wishing everybody going thru dp/dr a speedy recovery 🙏🏽

[@Dpmanual]

Glad it was helpful! 😊

[@portfolio3721]

For anyone struggling out there in this comment section, I just want to say that things get better, no matter how impossible that may seem right now. I woke up one morning in the summer of 2022 and within an instant, I had intense DPDR. Any symptom you can think of- I had it. I was only 18 back then and living by myself in a city far from my home for university. I was fully 100% convinced I was going crazy or in a psychosis of some sort. I still have DP/DR right now, however I have had episodes of completely forgetting about my DP/DR and then suddenly out of nowhere It hits me like a bus. My vision has been terrible because of this horrible disorder but I have learned to accept it and I know that I will get better, and so will you. i had it very intense back when I was 15 and it was horrible, however I recovered from it. Recovery is not linear, so do not pay attention to your good days, nor your bad days because DPDR can fluctuate very easily. I have endless sympathy for anyone suffering with this, however remember that IT IS NOT DANGEROUS, no matter how horrible it feels. If anyone want's to chat, just let me know!

[@LocalMachine]

I like this post a lot and also how you said how recovery isn't linear. How true that is.

[@mahmoudelsaraf1094]

How recover from dp please

[@ayoubimohammad6878]

@@mahmoudelsaraf1094 do you want to talk? we can have a chat

[@CookieVibes]

I would like to chat

[@deanrandall3]

I would like to chat. I’m also 18 in university far away from home and it’s so hard to manage

[@GHBC21]

Soon, I will be making a video with Shaun looking back at this stage of my life and laughing about the non sense thoughts. Almost there!!!

[@Dpmanual]

Looking forward to it Giuseppe! 😊

[@maresal7248]

How are you doing now?

[@adorehazel2757]

Would love to come on and tell my story when I fully recover and I’m on that road to recovery !!! Gina really explained this so well Really went into great detail “Lights were scary, looking in the mirror” all of it is truly like a horror movie like she said. I have to live my life so differently because of this. Mine got triggered after having my son and a string of other things! I’m now 3 months postpartum and it’s a story I would love to tell to help others Iv talked to many women who experienced this postpartum and it’s not talked about enough during postpartum. I totally felt Gina when she said they just give you medication and say “come back in 6 weeks” it’s so isolating 😢 The professionals are not much help.

[@adorehazel2757]

@27:51 !!! YESSS!!!!

[@Dpmanual]

So glad you enjoyed the video Gina! 😊 And yes absolutely, would love to feature you on the channel when you've recovered! In the meantime be patient and keep up the good work, you got this! 😊

[@adorehazel2757]

@@Dpmanual thank you !!! Until then I’ll keep on watching. You’ve made the road to recovery so much easier!!! We appreciate you so much ❤️

[@Dpmanual]

@@adorehazel2757 Happy to help! 😊❤

[@AfghanFTW]

Hey how are you feeling now?

[@carolinebielby5924]

I remember thinking I am not even real anymore like I could sit in the bath it didn't feel like I was in my body, I think I only had peace being asleep

[@Dpmanual]

I had a very similar experience 😊 www.dpmanual.com/about/my-depersonalization-story/

[@AverageMitch1987]

When dreaming feels more real than real life. I know the feeling.

[@adorehazel2757]

I sleep it all off

[@revelinthespotlight246]

@@adorehazel2757 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHTQdHSmmZuUhLs God is with you ❤️‍🩹

[@glowingbuddha]

@@adorehazel2757 I had to take something to sleep sometimes

[@dimetrodon2250]

I have autism (and ADHD and a history with depression) and it feels like my Special Interests are faded away. I’m scared of not even being in a position to reclaim them. My confidence is gone, my anxiety attacks are getting worse, i feel like i don’t know who I am anymore. Sometimes i feel better and other times I feel worse. The last time I went through this I had the support of my college roommates nearly 24/7, since we were all “autistic weirdos” with similar interests, we all sort of rubbed off on eachother. This time I’m alone at home most of the time, and since my interests have already felt like they faded, it’s extremely hard for me to talk about them or even just enjoy them by myself at home like I used to. It doesn’t help that at work (I work at a school for special needs kids), my adult coworkers are all neurotypical adults who I share nothing in common with, and actually remind me of they type of people who I haven’t really interacted with since high school (shallow neurotypical types who judge and gossip and stuff). It’s really hard listening to them talking about things, knowing how much I’d usually fully disagree, but not being able to say anything. It feels like my memories of who I was only a month ago feel so distant, i feel like my interests either don’t interest me, straight up cause me anxiety, or just feel… wrong. Meanwhile I’m also getting random memories and sensations of much earlier times in my life, childhood and high school and stuff, and those same memories which used to feel nostalgic now just give me anxiety. I feel like I’ll never truly feel emotional the same way I did before, especially compared to the neurotypicals around me who don’t seem to care about anything. I’m scared of not really having much opportunity to return to who I was a mere month ago. Or that I’ll never be able to truly be like that ever again.

[@whileyouareinmali]

Hi, as far as i know myself, i m a neurotypical but i don't get others neither so don t be too harsh on yourself or on them. Everybody does what they can / feel / know... I m having some of these episodes 'again' without any reason, trigger, it robs our identities doesn't it and you feel like puking caged in 80s polaroid photos and no one can see. Even recently i stopped a flight taking off with sudden panic attack! Funnily i was not even embarrased (normally i would) as i don't feel anything!!! (Looks we go into a''hole mode pushed by life circumstances) Yes it is a lonely experience but do you know what? It is as it is! We will wait it to pass. It's our BRAIN good or bad. We need to OWN it. Unfortunately not everybody ultra perfect and each of us has some share of destiny. I m just recovering or maybe not but this time i decided not to actively fight / negotiate / analyse - i'm playing dead and STUPID as if i ve no clue whatsoever as i know i know i know wtf is going on 'again' It's not a new info anymore. I'm checking videos to learn maybe new grounding skills but at the end if i can't learn or practice, it's ok. Believe me everyone suffers one or other. Just trust the process. Your brain does the best for you, it's trying to find working ways. Only you 'chill' and wait

[@mrderp8227]

Another great story!

[@Dpmanual]

Glad you enjoyed it! 😊

[@CarmeloPagan-ng6fl]

i relate to her so much, looking in the mirror is so terrifying. even sitting here and thinking like this is really me sends me into panic mode but it’s getting better!

[@Dpmanual]

Glad to hear you're improving! 😊

[@vinylg3421]

Wow 👏 I hope I recover soon too , Shaun you are very helpful

[@Dpmanual]

Happy to help! 😊

[@maresal7248]

How are you now?

[@ashleeoconnell8510]

This video has helped me a lot. She described to the T of how I felt/ feel. I am still ongoing recovery but there are days where symptoms reappear. I would love to do a video with you! Please let me know where I can do this.

[@Dpmanual]

Sounds good Ashlee, drop me a line when you've 100% recovered and we can arrange an interview 😊❤️👍

[@esraa5921]

Oh my god, what she said about being scared that she doesn't feel like she's herself anymore! That's exactly what's troubling me now.. I don't experience derealization anymore, I don't feel like I'm outside my body. But I can't remember who I am.. I feel like my memories are not mine, life seems weird and confusing.. I feel like I lost myself. I know I got a lot better than before but there seems to be a few things stuck..

[@AfghanFTW]

How are you feeling now ?

[@CharbelPHabib]

Hello esraa am also from lebanon can we talk ?

[@esraa5921]

@@AfghanFTW I'm okayyy

[@AfghanFTW]

@@esraa5921 you remeber ur self now?

[@esraa5921]

@@AfghanFTW my personality is definitely coming back.. I'm happy with the small pieces of it that are slowly coming back. It's taking time but I'm enjoying the process.

[@naturespleasantries]

I’ve really been enjoying these recovery stories! They’ve been helping in my recovery ❤️‍🩹

[@Dpmanual]

Glad to hear it! 😊

[@elizabethbrennan3545]

Can’t believe I just discovered the stories now I know what I suffered all those years and nobody would help me. There’s no real drugs for this disorder.

[@Dpmanual]

Hi Elizabeth -- I'm not a medical professional so can't give you specific recommendations re medication. But please read this article, I think you'll find it useful 👉 www.dpmanual.com/articles/can-medication-cure-depersonalization/ And if you have any further questions on medication please don’t hesitate to speak to a medical professional.

[@mildredlipasokoros]

This shit is killing me 😭 9months down the line l feel so sad l wanna come back to normal l miss my old days when l used to realise myself now l feel lost ever since l travelled to a new country l had panic attack at the plane l started feeling like I couldn’t feel my body driving feels wired sometimes am like how did l arrive here am do everything correctly going to school going to work holding conversations l fear l might die l can’t even recognise my friends or family l see them looking familiar l feel like am loosing my mind l try so sad to be ok but it’s breaking me up I feel weird looking at myself in the mirror l find it weird am doing things but l don’t know how am doing it l feel disconnected from the world l keep on thinking everytime outside looks blurry lights look so bright l feel stuck on my thoughts l can’t even recognise my face voice l don’t know why l am here am not at peace it’s leading to suicidal thoughts 😢l need help whenever l sleep l feel peaceful but being alone sounds scary am just trying my best 😢

[@Dpmanual]

Hey Mildred, thanks for your comment. Firstly, if you are experiencing any thoughts of self-harm, please do speak to a medical professional as soon as possible. Secondly, I know DPDR can be scary but just remember that it’s a natural reaction to stress and anxiety, and people experience it all the time. The National Institute on Mental Illness estimates that up to 75% of people experience at least one depersonalization / derealization episode in their lives. It's part of your brain's natural defence mechanism and usually it only lasts a few seconds or minutes at a time. It's only when it's focused on as a separate problem (feeling like you're going crazy / in a dream etc) that it can turn into a feedback loop with the anxiety that caused it in the first place. But no matter what caused it or how long you've had it, you can always switch it off completely by stopping that anxious feedback loop. Make sure to carefully read through all the articles and info on my website at www.dpmanual.com And if you would like to speak to a medical professional please don't hesitate to do so. I would recommend finding an anxiety specialist if possible as they will likely be more familiar with DPDR 👍

[@revelinthespotlight246]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/mHTQdHSmmZuUhLs God is with you ❤️‍🩹

[@fatmaabukar5020]

how do you feel now?

[@marthasisco9678]

How are you please I feel the same way

[@carolinebielby5924]

Oh yes , it is a very strange experience hard to believe it can happen.

[@Dpmanual]

It is indeed a very strange experience. Thankfully it's harmless and temporary! 😊

[@marthasisco9678]

How are you now

[@toprabah1290]

Some times I feel recovering but it gona happen all over again

[@pedrohenriquecabral4691]

Hello friend, first I would like to congratulate you for the beautiful work done. I have a doubt, in my case, the depersonalization came after I was diagnosed with OCD. Have you ever seen a case like this? Is it normal for patients with depersonalization to have intrusive thoughts?

[@Dpmanual]

Don’t worry Pedro, intrusive thoughts like that are super common with DPDR and all anxiety-based conditions 😊 I know they can be frightening but they will fade away and stop as your recovery continues: www.dpmanual.com/articles/depersonalization-fears-and-anxious-thoughts/

[@Waves353]

@kseniarasputin3147me too!

[@smokedadon18]

Going through this now hopefully I’ll feel better ❤

[@Dpmanual]

Don't worry Javier, you can and will recover 😊 www.dpmanual.com/articles/back-to-normal-after-depersonalization/

[@marthasisco9678]

How are you

[@Luis-ot9he]

Ugh I hate this. I start to worry if something else is wrong with me in my health. I start overthinking every little pain I feel

[@Dpmanual]

Hyperawareness of your body and health is a common symptom of all anxiety-based conditions 😊❤️ I know it can be frustrating but it's temporary and harmless and will fade away and stop as your recovery continues: www.dpmanual.com/articles/back-to-normal-after-depersonalization/

[@toprabah1290]

I am so lost you understand my suffering

[@marthasisco9678]

How are you

[@toprabah1290]

But even when I am ignoring it it doesn’t go away

[@AverageMitch1987]

A part of me wants to be happy that there are people who are finding relief. And the other part of me is angry because I’ve been living with DPDR for as long as I can remember. And I truly don’t think I will ever get better. And no offense I don’t think a manual book will change that.

[@Dpmanual]

None taken Mitchell, I probably wouldn't have thought a book would have helped me either back when I had DPDR -- And I'm fairly sure most of these people would have said the same: www.dpmanual.com/testimonials/

[@marthasisco9678]

How are you now

[@kamranhussain6117]

I been since two years plz tell me the vitamins that I must take plz

[@KaushalyaDeep-qo6rp]

My fight and flight response is unevenly working and speed too for I can't feel things and life has become really hard. I'm reading books also but sometimes it does work and sometimes it doesn't. Tell me how can I overcome from this whole of DPDR(my studies are stuck and this is the last time that my parents gave me a chance to study and I am suffering and can't study though I went to college many times but it doesn't work and everyday it gets little worst off. Please help me. I have seen so many ups and downs and now this. Life has stopped. If someone could save me I shall pray hell everyday for him/her. I hate this life.

[@Dpmanual]

Hey, thanks for your comment 😊 I know DPDR can be scary but just remember that it’s a natural reaction to stress and anxiety, and people experience it all the time. The National Institute on Mental Illness estimates that up to 75% of people experience at least one depersonalization / derealization episode in their lives. It's part of your brain's natural defence mechanism and usually it only lasts a few seconds or minutes at a time. It's only when it's focused on as a separate problem (feeling like you're going crazy / in a dream etc) that it can turn into a feedback loop with the anxiety that caused it in the first place. But no matter what caused it or how long you've had it, you can always switch it off completely by stopping that anxious feedback loop. Make sure to carefully read through all the articles and info on my website at www.dpmanual.com and my book The Depersonalization Manual. And if you would like to speak to a medical professional please don't hesitate to do so. I would recommend finding an anxiety specialist if possible as they will likely be more familiar with DPDR 👍

[@marthasisco9678]

How are you now

[@SuccessSaga3]

شكرا لك اخي ❤❤❤❤

[@Dpmanual]

😊👍❤️

[@balytasarkaviolinsandstrin272]

Thanks for sharing your story Gina! I felt like I was listening to my own story as you talked. wanted to ask you, that feeling of not knowing who you are, why you are here, did that slowly subside? I have had dpdr for almost a year and whike i have the panic attacks and anxiety under control, those other feelings persist. Any thoughts?

[@toprabah1290]

I am scared of not finding recovery

[@marthasisco9678]

How are you

[@adrianawalker7051]

I feel like my family and friends are unfamilar, my house and city in unfamilar...i also feel like im in a strangers body to some extent. Time distortion, memory issues...is this part of dp? I dont hear many talk about mt symptoms much

[@Dpmanual]

Don’t worry Adriana, feelings like that are super common with DPDR. I know they can be frustrating but they will fade away and stop as you recover 😊 www.dpmanual.com/about/do-i-have-depersonalization-disorder/ www.dpmanual.com/articles/depersonalization-and-memory-loss/ And if you would like to speak to a medical professional please don't hesitate to do so. I would recommend finding an anxiety specialist if possible as they will likely be more familiar with DPDR.

[@marthasisco9678]

How are you

[@matescorner7981]

id love to buy the book but 90 dollars is a lot

[@vinylg3421]

Shaun can you please tell me how do I deal with the intense urge to panic when I cant sit still or concentrate on one thing for long like even a minute.. I feel like crawling out of my skin and want to just escape or lie down and close my eyes

[@Dpmanual]

Head over to my website at www.dpmanual.com, there’s tons of info and tips on anxiety + DPDR recovery there 😊 And if you would like to speak to a medical professional please don't hesitate to do so. I would recommend finding an anxiety specialist if possible as they will likely be more familiar with DPDR.

[@mars__4]

how common is chirping, whoosing, ringing , ting sound in the ear among dpdr sufferers,?

[@Dpmanual]

Read this, I think you'll find it useful: www.dpmanual.com/articles/tinnitus-and-depersonalization/

[@brittneywelch2186]

Gina, are you on here? I would love to hear how you explained to your husband. Trying to do that now...

[@balytasarkaviolinsandstrin272]

Also, how long did you have dpdr?

[@CharbelPHabib]

@dpmanual what if I have existential ocd and not dp Dr ? Or it's the same

[@liamkelly4217]

Wondering the same thing for myself

[@deirdreoconnor8281]

Such a beautiful analogy... coming through this journey and emerging from the chrysalis of anxiety into a butterfly. Changed. Powerful.

[@1BenHD]

Hello, my name is Zach and I am 12 yrs old, nobody around me believes that I actually have this condition. My 1 question is, how do i get rid of this? I also get worried all the time about growing up and about adulthood

[@Dpmanual]

Hey Zach, thanks for your comment! 😊 Firstly, please make sure that you’re speaking to your parents about what’s happening. It’s very important that they know what’s going on. Secondly, I know DPDR can be frightening but remember that it's just your body and brain's natural response to stress and anxiety. It's not permanent and it can't hurt you. You can and will recover. Make sure to read through all the info and articles on my website at www.dpmanual.com And if you would like to speak to a medical professional please don't hesitate to do so. I would recommend finding an anxiety specialist if possible as they will likely be more familiar with DPDR 👍

[@marthasisco9678]

How are you

[@jaeespo5413]

Please talk about the paranoia that comes from it

[@CourtneySDawn]

Mine was triggered by existential questions because of a video I seen.. Iv been in panic for 2 months and now I have depersonalization which makes it worse. Has anyone else had this triggered by reality/existential questions first?

[@Dpmanual]

Hi Courtney! Don't worry, it doesn't matter what triggered the DPDR, it's still harmless and temporary and you can and will recover 😊 www.dpmanual.com/articles/what-causes-depersonalization-disorder/

[@Memepoint.]

@CourtneySDawn mine was also triggered by a existential question

[@CourtneySDawn]

@@Memepoint. How are you doing now?

[@Memepoint.]

@@CourtneySDawn I also had this question about 2 months ago. I haven't yet overcome the fear but I now look at it as a completely normal thing to happen to anyone and my reaction to that question was also very normal(being frightened) and that at the end of the day it's just a thought and the only problem is me catastrophizing it. I'm now working on overcoming my anxiety viewing this experience as a lesson. I hope this helps and that you recover soon!

[@CourtneySDawn]

@@Memepoint. Thankyou, that’s great your doing better. For me it seems to have just morphed into different existential thoughts and now just this hyperawareness of consciousness and confusion about the nature of reality. Something that’s always been uncertain and always will be but somehow now my brains fixated on demanding answers.

[@twilliams4880]

Is head pressure a symptom of dpdr?

[@nicolesilva5227]

Yes anxiety

[@emo.grandma]

I hope so … I have huge head pressure and dizziness I don’t know if it’s dpdr it something else too

[@goldilocks_locsdreadlocks739]

Yes muscle tension headache

[@marthasisco9678]

​@@emo.grandmahow are you now

[@rodreddick2203]

If someone can please help. I had depersonalization for about two years. I did recover. Thank goodness. However now my 16 year old daughter now has OCD and Depersonlization. She has a phsycholigist and an OCD councilor. But nothing has helped. Would Shawn’s DP Manual help her? I am seeking anything to help her.

[@Waves353]

How is she doing now? I think that watching other young peoples recovery stories would be helpful and make her feel less alone

[@jakesteele7069]

I emailed you, if you ever get a chance to look I’d appreciate it. Thank you Shaun

[@mattrinehart9348]

I have Bad panics and DPDR. Can DPDR change your behavior and who you are ? Like the opposite of you are ? Like bad emotions . Anger and numbness? I don't anyone talk about personality changes and emotions related to dpdr and anxiety . I feel like I wanna go on a dang antipsychotic feels like I'm loosing my mind and who I am. It's terrible . From the time I wake up to the time I go to bed.

[@Dpmanual]

Hi Matt 😊 No, DPDR can't change who you are. It's an anxiety-based condition, that's all. It's harmless and temporary and when you recover you will get 100% back to normal: www.dpmanual.com/articles/back-to-normal-after-depersonalization/ And if you would like to speak to a medical professional please don't hesitate to do so. I would recommend finding an anxiety specialist if possible as they will likely be more familiar with DPDR.

[@mattrinehart9348]

@@Dpmanual But the state changes who you are at the moment correct or no ?

[@twilliams4880]

@@mattrinehart9348 I’d say yes because when you’re going through it u don’t feel like yourself

[@mattrinehart9348]

@@twilliams4880 Thjng is I don't have existential thoughts I think I just have dissociate like fading away here or there and anger. Is it normal to like blank out randomly as your recovering

[@suarrex-_-4117]

about caffeine should i not take preworkout? before working out

[@Dpmanual]

I'd recommend avoiding until you're recovered 😊

[@acid.9178]

Light sensitivity is normal?

[@Dpmanual]

Don’t worry, visual symptoms like that are super common with DPDR and will fade away and stop as you recover 😊 www.dpmanual.com/articles/does-depersonalization-affect-vision/

[@Xjxkxkxiia]

Yea I hate bright lights,it makes my dpdr worse

[@mikehammer983]

Je avoir ce manuel en français ? Merci

[@Dpmanual]

Oui, le livre a une traduction complète en français et des sous-titres vidéo 😊 www.dpmanual.com/purchase/

[@mikehammer983]

@@Dpmanualje viens de l’acheter mais il n’apparaît pas dans mes mails

[@Dpmanual]

@@mikehammer983 Je viens de vous envoyer un e-mail de confirmation et un nouveau lien de téléchargement 😊

[@Butterfly-vd4tg]

Can I recover after 5 years to

[@Dpmanual]

Don't worry, it doesn't matter what caused it, how long it’s lasted, or whether it’s been 24/7 or episodic, you can always switch DPDR off completely by stopping the anxiety that's causing it 😊 Read this carefully: www.dpmanual.com/articles/how-long-does-depersonalization-last/

[@MichaelSpencer-v1r]

I was pulled over and given a dui because of an episode with my kid in the car

[@CharbelPHabib]

What if i have schizophrenia or any other psychosis and not dpdr ? I went to a psychiatrist she said that it's anxiety only

[@Dpmanual]

Read this, I think you'll find it useful: www.dpmanual.com/articles/schizophrenia_cancer_depersonalization/

[@CharbelPHabib]

Who else fear people they feel like monsters or aliens, and I fear because of that to be in a mental hospital lonely because I fear people

[@Dpmanual]

Don’t worry, thoughts like that are super common with DPDR. I know they can be frustrating and frightening but they are also temporary and harmless and will fade away and stop as your recovery continues 😊 www.dpmanual.com/articles/depersonalization-fears-and-anxious-thoughts/

[@neptuneflower9156]

Or robots

[@CharbelPHabib]

@@neptuneflower9156 exactly

[@neptuneflower9156]

@@CharbelPHabib dude I feel this so much and I hate it I feel like I don't feel the world the same hard to connect with people and times I think how do we communicate or I feel like I don't understand but do it's weird or the thoughts why are we here what's my purpose existential fears, anxiety, depression, and dpdr yes even the lady says I don't feel like me anymore I feel this and now I get scary thoughts if I was stuck in a dream but I got to keep telling my self I'm not

[@alphakhan7450]

Look like same to johnny sins 😂🤪.

[@CharbelPHabib]

I don't know why thoses thoughts come to me. Its normal to have an inner voice, my inner voice. Because i thought i was going crazy 😂 @dpmanual

[@marthasisco9678]

I wondered that too then it went to quite