Dr. Bandy X. Lee in Conversation with Dr. Mary L. Trump

[@larrybrown8180]

Two very educated women with the perspectve to describe the madness of Donald Trump and his disturbed supporters.

[@raycannon-d9g]

much too little, much too late , obviously

[@BettyVeronica2.0]

​@@raycannon-d9gThis interview was from 2020 - before that election. Honestly, I doubt it would have made much difference if they did this before 2016 with the ignorance and poor education in this country.

[@raycannon-d9g]

@@BettyVeronica2.0 you're probably right, but imagine the headline in every paper "medical community agrees trump a threat to humanity." that might have caught the attention of even the hillbillies...?

[@leapingkitties]

Finding this 4 years later, the conversation is still fresh and relevant today. Thank you both.

[@suzimpeters]

I, too, found this video 4 years later. I follow Mary’s ‘Nerd Avengers’ podcast and have suggested in a comment that Mary take notice of Dr Lee’s work. 😂

[@maryrollins1737]

Me too. Of course she was already on top of it. ​@suzimpeters

[@tanya5322]

I was about the comment the very same thing. Thought I’d boost your comment instead.

[@namzarf]

It's nice to see Dr. Lee taking the lead here. Excellent conversation! I always enjoy Dr. Lees' professional and matter-of-fact demeanor. Thanks to both for your commitment and honesty. Much respect for you both!

[@janisolson1013]

Bandy Lee is an American treasure. I appreciate her work and her very astute observations regarding trump. She hits the nail on the head every single time.

[@raycannon-d9g]

im physically attracted to her😀

[@shweefranglais7900]

I have come to this from reading about Dr Bandy Lee losing her position at Yale. I then watched another interview where she was bullied and yet maintained her professionalism. It takes great courage for a shy person like this to stick to her standards ; she has never been in it for any personal gain or to support any political position. Kudos to you lady .

[@brianwalsh1401]

I saw that just recently that she lost her position at Yale. She's suing them and I hope she wins. I also have learned not to trust the APA because of their stance on their new laws basically gagging anybody in their association from speaking out like Dr. Lee has. I have to wonder how many in that body are narcissists and sociopaths.

[@kerryz966]

@@brianwalsh1401 She lost her case and rightfully so.

[@CarolynDallmanDownes]

@@kerryz966 Everything she predicted about that murderous sociopath, Chump, has come true. He is a cancer who has infected all our lives and is killing democracy in America and around the world.

[@oneofthosepeople2101]

Dr’s have mental illness as well. Birds of a feather find each other way too easily on the internet. 😅 The comment section is crazy too, filled with people who identify with these two. -from the perspective of a life long trump hater.

[@Terra_Lopez]

Do you know why she lost her position? Was it because she spoke out against Trump? @@brianwalsh1401

[@im-gi2pg]

I’m only 4 minutes in, but what a great interview!!!!!!!! Dr. Bandy Lee as an expert in her field (and she obviously has a heart!) and Dr. Mary Trump who can look at her upbringing objectively with logic (not many people can do that!).

[@benjaminhuang4733]

Given all the efforts made to silence them (including threats of violence) these women should be praised to the stars for their courage, their professionalism, and their patriotism.

[@brendi9822]

BS. SHE IS A WHACK JOB. HER MORALS? ETHICS? ALL OF THIS PRECLUDES ALL SHE HAS SAID. AS FOR TRUMP? SHE HAS BEEN DEBUNKED OVER AND OVER. GET A CLUE!

[@lordrobert12]

Why? They are both partisan hacks!!

[@emma1166]

So well and truthfully said!

[@michelebenedosso3899]

Wow….today is 9/10/24- four years after this interview was taped… it STILL holds true… so many observations that came true as we learned more . But still, mental professionals are not allowed to share their expertise- meanwhile people are eager to know, to make sense of what is going on. Thanks to Dr. Mary Trump and Dr. Brandy Lee who are still fighting for our democracy.

[@cameronkrause4712]

I get the feeling that Dr Lee is the real deal and that she does care about this society. She is a rare find because she does not treat this as her own personal ego trip.

[@DonnaMayStanish]

I was quite impressed when I had learned Dr Lee has a master's in divinity. ❤

[@karenkneisley288]

Dr. Lee posses dignity and humility when imparting information for us.

[@nevetsw2004]

When I hear you, two young ladies speak, I have a sigh of relief.

[@laflaca1530]

I listened to them both separately and thought, Mary Trump should get together with Brandy Lee! Not knowing they had until now. Thank God there are good people. These are two brave ones.

[@BettyVeronica2.0]

Same here.

[@nevarcruz4852]

NEED UPDATE NEED UPDATE!! GET THEM BACK TOGETHER AGAIN!!

[@ivanasimic2072]

World need more people like Dr. Lee, she is beautiful from inside out! BIG RESPECT

[@roberthanks1636]

These two doctors should have more public discussions together.

[@frankG335]

You are two of my most admired women - Dr. Mary Trump and Dr. Brandy Lee! Thank you both so much for speaking out!

[@Astrid-jt8cd]

I don't trust them just because they are super educated Dosent necessarily mean they are telling the truth

[@daydream_believer]

@@Astrid-jt8cd The truth is in all the observable data that is in plain view. Their education allows them to compare it to other people displaying the same behaviours/ thought processes which allows them to arrive at a diagnosis. Dr. Lee is an expert. Believe her & believe what the rest of us (all around the world) see & are telling you. He's unfit & dangerous!

[@daydream_believer]

@@Astrid-jt8cd The truth is in all the observable data that is in plain view. Their education allows them to compare it to other people displaying the same behaviours/ thought processes which allows them to arrive at a diagnosis. Dr. Lee is an expert. Believe her & believe what the rest of us (all around the world) are seeing & saying. He's unfit & dangerous!

[@daydream_believer]

@@Astrid-jt8cd The truth is in all the observable data that is in plain view. Their education allows them to compare it to other people displaying the same behaviours/ thought processes which allows them to arrive at a diagnosis. Dr. Lee is an expert. He's unfit & dangerous!

[@justinebrink4056]

@@Astrid-jt8cd It is clear as daylight. I spent years with a covert malignant narcissist and I can see the narcissism clearly in Donald Trump and to have someone like that in the most powerful position in the world is very very scary. Look at how many of his own inner circle and family members say the same thing. On top of that it is clearly observable if you understand what to look for. But from the viewpoint you are approaching it with you have already been infected with him and Fox's gaslighting, non stop lying and conspiracy theories.. All his felonies and everything against him and his personality disorder and everything else are just lies when you get to this point. You get so used to excusing everything he does that he will kill a human being right in front of you and you will lie to yourself that it didn't happen. That is how ridiculous it gets. Narcissistic manipulation mixed with group dynamics turns into a cult and it is extremely difficult once you are in to get out and see the truth. I don't care about American politics generally.. I just care about a malignant narcissist influencing and bringing out the worst in so many people and being put in the most powerful position in the world. That is extremely scary

[@etch-a-sketch]

Two, very intelligent, interesting and professional women, who have so much to contribute to society. They need to be listened to, especially in the USA now.

[@VidarLund-k5q]

They represent everything that Trump hates and fears, along with Kamala Harris.

[@VidarLund-k5q]

Imagine a similar intelligent conversation between two trumpists. You cannot? Neither can I.

[@tuforu4]

​. Melanie. Trump. Is. Descended. Fron. Royal family of. Slovenia.

[@Dot-Dot-Dash]

Two brave women who are intelligent, educated and doing their best to warn America against so many odds! Thank you both!!! I have Dr. Lee's book about having a Duty to warn us.

[@frankG335]

I do, too. I also found Dr. Trump's book to be exceptional!

[@VidarLund-k5q]

These two brilliant women represent what Trump fears and hates the most.

[@SPIDERVENOM1000]

frankly, it's horrifying that we even need people like you two to tell us what we clearly can see for ourselves... and so many still seem blind... that's the worst part of all this.

[@xtra-oi9xb]

….. exactly ….. unlike physical ailments mental problems are subjective in this case depending on which end of the political spectrum you’re on …. nearly half of the electorate voted for former president trump for reasons political in scope … so are they too mentally ill for voting for him as Dr Lee appears to suggest because of exposure to trump’s demagoguery ? …..

[@MichaelSpanhake]

There are none so BLIND than those who REFUSE TO SEE.

[@stephanPark-rl5ss]

Dr. Lee, you have my utmost respect and admiration . Such incredible strength and courage

[@cv8566]

This is an extraordinary interview of two strong and courageous women I admire most. Thank you so much. It would be amazing if Dr. Lee and Dr. Trump could also invite Dr. Ramani Durvasula (a licensed clinical psychologist, professor of psychology, media expert, and author) to share her view in a joint interview. This is what America needs most of all: Enlightenment.

[@brianwalsh1401]

Considering that at least 10-15% of the population is a narcissists or a sociopath more people need to wake up to this and how much trouble they cause society.

[@kennethhlavik8155]

I agree 100% with you!

[@marigoldpluss]

I have utmost respect for these two. Thank you ladies for stepping up to save the USA. 🎉

[@Ampersand00]

One of the best (of many) interviews I've seen with Mary Trump, rather than a journalist layperson posing questions, this is two well trained professionals discussing a subject in clinical terms. Congratulations!

[@brendi9822]

LOL.

[@tuforu4]

FRAU MERKEL. KNEW. THAT. YRS AGO.

[@5fiveful]

Glad there are a few of us left who value competence, leadership and normalcy.

[@kerryz966]

Such as President Biden?

[@garysouza95]

@@kerryz966 Absolutely.

[@marthawhite3353]

Praise to Mary Trump here, a well trained professional woman who is also able to allow herself to be analysed by an equally well trained and professional clinician. It takes great emotional courage to submit to counseling and be vulnerable, and yet that is what we need to do to grow and change and become a healthier version of ourselves. Mary's strength and inner character of integrity and ethics really comes through - for both women here, for sure. One day this Trump mishigaz will all be over and gone and we will be able to go back to just being people, in all our flaws and strengths but without the fascist character disordered leaders.

[@magdalenamezydlo6150]

Thank you ladies for speaking out and breaking it down about this sick individual that continues to destroy our Country.

[@laura2372]

Excellent-very accurate & terrifying. Thank-you, Drs Lee & Trump. Much respect.🤗

[@timhuffmaster3588]

This is the interview I’ve been looking for. How did I not find it four years ago.

[@krisr3612]

Two of my favorite mental health doctors. Thanks for speaking up. When our democracy was on the line, you both were willing to fight to save it. I only wish there were more like you. 🤗 **Coming from someone born into a family creepy crawling with Cluster B Personality Disorder. I went no contact with my family, got an amazing therapist who specialized in trauma to treat my PTSD and then my country was being run by a Narcissist!! Now it wasn't just my immediate family and their flying monkeys 🐒 but my whole country (or at least about half). More traumatizing than I like to admit, but so grateful for Biden. I am for Elizabeth Warren, but am grateful for Biden. Hoping the country snaps out of this fascist brainwashing.

[@greekgoddessmom]

DR. TRUMP: "Very much like my grandfather co-opted Donald and my father to be extensions of his own ambitions, Donald co-opts the government to bolster his sense who he is and to advance his own agenda." This is a brilliant assessment and consistent with malignant narcissists and how they treat everyone and everything in their lives. Dr. Lee, thank you for bringing this interview to the public. You may think yourself a shy speaker, but your vital work brings the fire! Dr. Trump, thank you for writing your book and for being so generous with your interviews across many platforms.

[@jfrmfrjm]

greekgoddessmom And also: ”His unique character flaws make him extremely vulnerable to manipulation by smarter and more powerful men and to get him do whatever they want”. This pattern has been SOOOOOOOOOO obvious from the outside that it has hardly escaped anyone in their right mind. The question is, what is the psychological condition of the USA that allows this to happen - since none of this would be without enablers.

[@greekgoddessmom]

@@jfrmfrjm The nation is in an abusive relationship with Trump---simultaneously dependent on and victimised by him. Those who would stay in the relationship are bound by ignorance; those who would leave, the rule of law. This election will be the most consequential of our lives.

[@jfrmfrjm]

greekgoddessmom Very well put! The forthcoming election is definitely the moment for the electorate to make up their mind about the kind of USA they want - is it a country in escalating decline to authoritarianism, racism, cleptocracy and deteriorating institutions, or is it a nation truely for all its sitizens.

[@lancemannion1147]

2 BooBs, Angry Idiots that are bitter because they are not getting the outcome they feel they deserve in life !!! They are 2 LOSERS !! Dr.Lee would be Arrested if we actually followed are own Laws, it is ILLEGAL to Diagnose some1 from the TV !! Mary is bitter because she got Booted from (The Will) ! So Mary got u Suckers to Buy her Assanine Book !!

[@catherinegreen7003]

@@lancemannion1147 Go to bed tRump

[@DocM-pj6bm]

He seems to fit the profile of different types of narcissists, sociopaths and psychopaths in a number of different dangerous cases, especially now in September, 2023 and beyond. The expertise and mastery of psychiatry in mental health and capacity of professional qualifications in politics and especially in presidential leadership is an important factor for any decision-making process, including disqualification of a candidate, voting, hiring, firing, impeachment, etc.

[@judyfoster9266]

Now , September 2024, nothing has been done to reign in the orange psycho. Once again he is the repugs nominee for POTUS to be voted against in less than forty days. The mainstream media paints over his true psychopathy and daily increasing mental health downward spiral . It's all frightening and infuriating. Wake up voters, please!

[@robinalecia7554]

Wow I don’t know how in the world I missed this interview . Absolutely Love these two brilliant Doctors

[@lindascanlan6317]

You are both brilliant and brave professionals whose warnings go unheeded to this day....thank you for your persistence. ...

[@Matriarch57]

So much for USA exceptionalism! SMH

[@KennethDonnellyStargazer21]

Ignorance is alive and well on Planet Earth 👽 Thank you ladies!

[@garymankey6186]

Thank You Dr. Bandy X. Lee and Mary.

[@marvinmartin4692]

They are doing the right thing! These two are really the most qualified on donny boy!

[@ellenpederson-lewis8557]

Great interview. Everyone needs to see this.

[@Al-oe8ib]

This is without doubt the best incite into the mental disorder that is donald trump I have ever seen. Dr Lee is brilliant and Mary really expanded on the various disorders trump is suffering from, not just the Delusional Sociopath diagnosis

[@kerryz966]

Judging from your spelling and sentence structure, I don’t think you are capable of recognizing brilliance.

[@Sjb2077]

Talk about holier than thou. Here is one woman that nobody is going to. ‘Shut up’. Donald Trump is the most vile human on this earth today. His gross stupidity and malignant narcissism could destroy us all and with nuclear weapons in the hands of powerful men the earth too. It doesn’t matter if sentence construction and spelling and so on aren’t perfect. Nuclear radiation doesn’t distinguish. 😅

[@daydream_believer]

@@kerryz966 Troll

[@kerryz966]

@@daydream_believer Wow, that really hurts, particularly when expressed by someone who follows a great intellect like Miss Bandy!!

[@daydream_believer]

@@kerryz966 I've made an appt for you to see Dr Lee. Don't worry I doubt it will take too long--not a whole lot there to evaluate! lol

[@DavidBookbinder]

In any other developed nation, this work would lead to either a resignation or removal from office. But here, now, it has had little effect so far. I can only imagine what it must have been like to be an ordinary citizen in Hitler's Germany and have the murder of its citizens normalized, as has happened in the U.S.

[@mickfunny4185]

David Bookbinder Mitch McConnell wants his judges and tax cuts,he doesn’t care about the rest of the nation

[@lancemannion1147]

In any other country it would Lead to jail, No country outside of the U.S. has Freedom of Speech ! U r Clueless !! Oh yeah, my bad random & or bitter family members write a book & it must be True, she wouldn't Lie, even though it's 20+ yrs. since she got Screwed out of MILLIONS & is still talking about it to a NutJob Shrink, who Breaks the Law every time she makes a diagnosis of President Trump on TV !! TRUMP 2020 !!

[@joniroller1313]

These "experts" who have their own agendas - to sell books. None of which can be proven. any of the specialized fields or disciplines, as psychology, sociology, anthropology, or political science, that interpret human behavior, institutions, society, etc., on the basis of scientific investigations for which it may be difficult to establish strictly measurable criteria.

[@52ponybike]

@@lancemannion1147 LOL you asswipe, we FIRED him!

[@CarolineATorge]

I think the content of your comment here was missed, and I just wanted to say that your point is wonderfully stated...

[@belovedchild9812]

Thank you for this thoughtful discussion.

[@S-uuuu]

I couldn't find this interview until someone gave me a link. I wonder why it wasn't coming up in searches. I'm very glad I got to see it!

[@dominadors4795]

Watching from the UK. Keep doing your thing. For those whose memory of Authoritarianism is a little bit more fresh or clear, seeing the rise of Trump is truly terrifying.

[@oscopin74]

I've read alot on WW2 and prior to it. There are so many parallels between the rise of facism and what is happening today. They would call us alarmists I guess but, I argue, someone has to sound the alarm right? Yes.

[@dominadors4795]

@@oscopin74 if you ever wondered what you would be doing if you lived in 1930s Germany, you are doing it.

[@LinaGuadagnuolo63]

Watching from Australia. What is especially terrifying is that the Republican party go to great efforts to keep Trump in power. If no-one with power calls him out, then he is more like a king than an elected leader.

[@lancemannion1147]

@@oscopin74 You have No Clue what is going in over here if u think Trump is the problem !! The Left are the Ones who are creating an Authoritarian Society over here !! The Left will not discuss anything, u either agree with The Left or U get shouted down, ostracized, physically beaten up or they will destroy buildings or set them on 🔥 🔥 !

[@marypagac305]

Lina Guadagnuolo, Domina Dors We appreciate your concern about the people of our country despite the challenges you face and have faced in your own countries. I have seen more and more people from all over the world expressing solidarity and sympathy - and oftentimes straight out pity, which I don’t feel is at all misplaced - and have been touched and moved by these expressions of caring. I think we are in large part a selfish country, I mean, it’s the ethos here. We forget there’s another world of people suffering from their own upheavals and crises and corruption and oppression and genocide. Whenever I experience, on a personal level, one-on-one, the “kindness of strangers,” I lose it, I’m moved to tears, and the comfort and gratitude I feel from your remarks is very similar, on a different level, but not a less meaningful one. We are scared. We know this man has made enemies of our former allies by his words and actions. The only reason for the insane number of supporters of this thug-con that makes sense to me, and many others who have studied and written on the subject, is a cult phenomenon of historic proportion. It’s like we need a deprogramming system of historic proportion to deal with it, and that seems to be something out of reach. So I do believe in the enormous value and validity of history’s lessons, but there are simply too many who don’t, who don’t even know history, who can’t understand bc they were not taught it. What can you do when the majority of the citizens of your country are intentionally under-educated by your government?

[@witwisniewski2280]

With half the adult population now afflicted followers, we need a psychiatric assessment of them. They are steering the immediate politics of the US, and seem ready to drink the cool-aid. Even if the 2024 election goes blue and he is jailed, half the population will remain a national security issue.

[@daveogarf]

THANK YOU SO MUCH, Drs. Lee and Trump!

[@meredithheath5272]

This will be fantastic - two of the best educated people on psychopathy, who know Dumpster, in their own way! And Dr. Lee's phrase "duty to warn" is becoming more in use by more people, as time progresses.

[@carolynnanderson1914]

"(Trump) appeals to others' narcissism". This is not oft mentioned, or not as much as it should be, when we try to understand what's behind the illogical support he receives from those in government as well as his base. Very grateful to these two women for their courage, and their care for the country as they try to save us from "The most dangerous person in the world".

[@JeffDinkin]

Exactly what I've been saying. Trump has had the effect of "normalizing" the deep pathology in many people.

[@DougGrinbergs]

8:40 appealing to others' narcissism

[@maureenbrown6697]

I think this point is remarkably important and revealing.

[@ajahnchahrules]

@@JeffDinkin can you mention one of the people’s deep pathology that Trump normalized please?

[@JeffDinkin]

@@ajahnchahrules - well PJ, it's not actually "normal" - but being a total piece of shit idiot is pretty much what I mean.

[@michellecabral386]

Invaluable KZbin site. Yes, keep on this mission. More people need to be warned!

[@geraldmiller5260]

Two smart and wise woman who risked everything to speak truth to power.

[@kennethhlavik8155]

Thank you for this program doc! It was wonderful and enlightening coming from a professional!

[@digiacomandreadebra329]

Well done & comprehensive interview. Dr. Lee selected good questions and steered the interview in an informative & gracious manner.

[@lancemannion1147]

Key word, steered the intv. No Objectivity from A Shrink & a Fake Shrink ! The latter still Angry that she got The Axe from Grandpas WILL !!

[@christinamarti4441]

Thank you both for speaking up

[@rescuelover7891]

I read Mary's book when it was first published. For someone raised in the culture in which she was to be so analytical and candid must have been hard but yet cathartic. She has come so far since then and I know what it is to be an outlier in your family. She and her father were the only two sane people in that family. She never let the fact that he is who he is, and a relative, affect her evaluation of his diagnoses. I am happy she has her own podcast now. She has escaped that malignant family with her true self intact.

[@pamhall1434]

Yes, speaking out about narcissist abuse is VERY important. We need to vet any position of power, the collaterol damage is far too great!

[@andreamcallister3372]

Dr Lee , How does it feel , to know you are yet again watching the American public walking into the chopper blades , in the name of political and media based profit ?? I love you and your never give up attitude since 2016 . It's a shame that I feel so very alone in this respect . A lot of my family and friends are not as lucky ....

[@HisPoem]

Thank you for this conversation. Very helpful. I hope both of you keep talking to us and recording videos like this. We need your continued input. Thank you.

[@pacmac7346]

The most important takeaway from this discussion is that Fred Trump Sr. is running America from the grave, a truly horrifying reality.

[@pacmac7346]

@Richard Jones Always ready to learn .Please make your case.

[@rochcarothers-ts3jx]

Fred simply repeated + passed on the universal patterns of stealing +misusing power for oneself.(Alexander,Hitler,Putin,JungUn, etc)

[@marieberberich4445]

Agree! As an only child who lived in a highly dysfunctional family with a father who set his will up in such a way that I would only get the inheritance that the will promised when I was 50 years old. He placed 2 family members as trustees at the gate, so to speak. If that isn't control from the grave, I don't know what is. In addition, my father was an alcoholic as was my mother. I was the scapegoat they blamed. This leaves one scarred and highly confused, full of self-blame that I carried for years. My mother died in 1981 and my father in 1988. I am 71 now and only just now fully emerging from the dysfunction I carried on my back like a saddle. I only began to heal and move forward once they were deceased.

[@doricetimko5403]

@@marieberberich4445may you know many blessings ❤

[@meredithheath5272]

​@@marieberberich4445I hear you - after suffering from a very dysfunctional family, then marrying into the very wrong family, it has taken me quite some time to heal - even a small amount. During the divorce process while going on Facebook, which I was on, at that time, and discovering KZbin, and seeing Dr. Ramani, Dr. Carter, and Andrew of Narc Daily, I began to learn the vocabulary and concepts from what I was suffering from. When you begin your educational process, things become far more clear. I only wish that I had my education of victim blaming, projection, gaslighting, out right nefarious deceit, narcissistic supply, power imbalance, etc., etc., far earlier in my life! Like in my teens - not in my late 60's!!!

[@joeymartin7462]

2 voices of reason in dire need today.

[@b.ruthdeerfield9856]

I thank all my Twitter followers for sending a flood of requests to Dr. Lee which with the assistance of Twitter and KZbin put this interview together. We all need to go one step further to secure an Amendment 25 on Donald Trump based on this interview.

[@wormwood8191]

Many in Congress see his dictatorship as a route to extreme power and won't give that up.

[@b.ruthdeerfield9856]

GREAT DANGER TO THE NATION GREAT DANGER TO THE CONSTITUTION GREAT DANGER TO THE WORLD This is a time of extraordinary danger to the nation because the man who wields the powers of the presidency of the United States is a mass killer. It is a time of unprecedented danger to the constitutional order of our country because a man with severe mental problems cannot accept the basic norms and laws of civic life. We are in a time of tremendous danger to the world because a man who is demonstrably incapable of serving in office controls the most powerful weapons of mass destruction in human history. We brought together the nation’s foremost mental health experts at a Yale Conference in April 2017 who warned psychological dangerousness in the presidency would devolve into cultural, geopolitical, and civic dangerousness. The proceedings went into a bestselling book, The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump, which accurately anticipated the presidency’s course. We followed up at the National Press Club in Washington in March 2019 with experts of law, history, political science, economics, social psychology, journalism, propaganda studies, nuclear science, and climate science, who described how the president was unfit from each of their perspectives. We now conclude it is our even more urgent responsibility to speak to the nation with a collective voice at this time of unprecedented and accelerating dangers because of the president’s apparent unraveling with increasingly reckless statements and actions. We believe the Washington authorities, the State and Municipal officials, and our military leaders should refuse illegal orders, such as the attempted militarization of our capital city and the threatened military invasion of states and local communities by the White House. We believe the citizens of our country, “We the People,” should refuse to allow the president to advance authoritarian and neo-fascist methods, attitudes, and policies reminiscent of tragedies that have befallen countries in recent and past history. We further believe Donald Trump must be urgently sidelined from the pandemic crisis, which he has disastrously mismanaged, causing incalculable deaths and economic devastation. We urge our fellow citizens to support us in our “Prescription for Survival” -PrescriptionForSurvival.org - to demand that a man clearly mentally disturbed and demonstrably unfit to lead our country be removed from power or otherwise be restrained. The World Mental Health Coalition June 7, 2020

[@b.ruthdeerfield9856]

That was from the 37 licensed psychiatrists that Bandy X. Lee, M. D. was the editor for the book they are referring to in their statement below: The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump.

[@b.ruthdeerfield9856]

The statement above (I didn’t realize it Appeared above my clarification about who the people who made the statement were the same people that Bandy X. Lee MD. was talking about. She edited two books, both bestsellers, one in 2017 with 27 psychiatrists and then a second book in 2019 with 37 psychiatrists who made the statement above.

[@lancemannion1147]

2 Bitter Old Crones, each 1, more Bitter than the other ! 1. Still Pissed 20yrs after getting The Axe from the WILL ! 2. Bandy diagnosing some1 she Never met, which is ILLEGAL & she should Lose her NutBag Shrink License !

[@SigMaQuint]

At first I reacted negatively to what you came out with, because normally, psychiatric assessments are strictly confidential as well as being disputed by patients who have felt victimized. . BUT I realized there was danger, by what I was witnessing in the news.. Then your knowledge became invaluable. I see the professional ethics of warning against behavior you are so trained to detect and protect society from. .

[@elizabethhaines4416]

The difference between the clinical assessments you are talking about, the ones that are protected by privacy laws and this one, is that DJT was not a private patient of theirs, and all of the material they based their assessments upon was available to everybody else too. Anybody who has seen DJT behave has this information. A trained professional is more likely to understand its significance and see the danger it poses and hence appreciate the duty to warn if that professional sees it there. There is no expectation of privacy broken no breach of trust here whatsoever. Were he a patient and this were private information, it would be a different matter, but the information is just as available to us.

[@SigMaQuint]

@@elizabethhaines4416 Yes. This is more like clinical observation, often used in order to determine if serious mental illness is present. No one likes being scrutinized this way. As a flock, we need to take warning sign seriously, though. The responsibility over lethal weapons of mass destruction heightens the need for caution.

[@teresahopemiller1008]

The Psychological breaking of confidentiality is when it is the Therapists obligation to the society we live in. If I were a therapist and had a client who confidently admitted to me they wanted and were plotting to kill their wife . It would be my responsibility to inform the authorities of this concern. Do you remember The shooting in Aurora Colorado the Therapist of the JOker tried to warn the police but there was communication issues. The system failed the victims from the incedent from happening. Each state has a law that says we as citizens if we have a problmatic neighbor. Say one comeing at us with a gun and saying nonsense to us or someone else. The authorities would need to be notified. I welcome anyone to check me on this becausse of Dsygraphia.

[@cygnelle1232]

This is such an important interview. It deserves many, many, many more views. As a survivor of narcissistic abuse, I have for a long time been incredibly disheartened by the silence, at best, of mental health professionals on issues surrounding the fallout from Cluster B behavioural patterns. It's hurtful, honestly. It compounds the sense of hopelessness people like me are already so inclined to feel. Of course professionals have a responsibility to the people with these outwardly destructive pathologies, and a lot of the time, there shouldn't be any reason to overrule that responsibility. But sometimes the risk of collateral damage is too great, and I wish the APA would take that seriously. If all goes well, I'll be joining the mental health profession in the near future and I fully intend to lend my voice to this gaping area of neglect in the field.

[@brendi9822]

LOL. NO. JUST NO

[@kazithecanecorso2724]

2 years later and we all know bandy is cray cray

[@davidl2469]

Yes from a crazy woke gangs

[@Biofitsolutions]

Great interview, though I wish it were longer in probing all the issues raised. Hope there will be follow-up interviews/conversations between these two experts to shed more light on this serious challenge we face. Kudos for your courage to speak out.

[@deirdre8744]

"When people show you who there are, believe them!"

[@bleonhard818]

This was a while back and he’s even worse now in 2024. God help us if he’s re-elected. I am so disappointed in the medical community for turning their backs on this threat. Thank you both for what you are doing to bring awareness

[@geoffsmith673]

I showed my 87 year old mother this interview. She feels heartened by this conversation but very concerned for the future. She is right, ofcourse. A psychopath"s ability to overwhelm emotionally often trumps empathic reasoning. Pun intended.

[@whathandleUtalkabt]

Yup same here then I showed my elder mother the ailicone fake baby doll Darren uaes as prince Harry and meghans baby. I showes her the 10 month baby bump. She couldnt believe Amazon sells silicone babies that look real.

[@brendi9822]

YOU PROJECTING. SEEM YOU AND HER ARE BOTH PSYCHOPATHS. GET REAL HELP.

[@daydream_believer]

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[@LindaDees-m5r]

So glad to hear Dr Mary Trump speak with another psychologist, Dr Lee at their high level of educational training. DJT is indeed a dangerous element as he is able to hook others into a very disturbed perception of reality that is abusive on many levels. Thank you both for your profound understanding & presentation of the extreme consequences of DJT’s psychological maladies.

[@rosebud-ame]

Reading this 4 years later, it still pertains to today, sorrowfully so.

[@sueauclair8704]

This is a really good discussion. What I'd like to know is what can our country do about this?

[@wormwood8191]

The election seems our only recourse as many in Congress are enamored with the power he offers.

[@marcharsveld2914]

Many jobs require personality tests. For narcissism there are tests too. Here's some more truth. Not a shred of ethics in Trump. Trump has no empathy. People are objects to him, not real people. Look for malignant overt narcissist on YT. Read the comments. Look for Narcissism in general on YT. Read the comments. It's Trump's biography. Trump's mentally ill. He has NPD. His narrative is confabulating to distort your view of reality. It's what narcs do to make you question yourself or in order not to aswer your question. Inform yourself on this topic. They can be anybody. People are married to a narc and thinking it's themselves who are the crazy one. Kids are suffering abuse every way every day. It can be a co-worker upsetting you everytime you meet. Learn the red flags. Trump's one of many who are harmfull to others on a daily basis. They are devils disguised as people like you and me. No love, only hate. Till the day they die. All from childhood trauma. Their closest are abused the most. So it's our problem.

[@counseloridealist]

Where would we be without these highly intelligence women?

[@marenkuether-ulberg3311]

What a great video, I’ve seen interviews from both good Drs individually so this is an important meeting of the minds. And look… it’s April 2024 and the Donald continues to be a plague, frightening. He could use a good “gone to the farm” conviction. He’s up past his prison time.

[@LookingGlass24]

Two beautiful, brilliant women whom I’d love to meet in person one day. Listening to them is a true privilege. Now, we must heed their words and admonition and spread their words to others.

[@wagwag630]

Mary is my hero! As far as I know she is the only Trump with integrity I too have a narcissistic psycho in my family!

[@anjoliemoore1453]

You certainly are an asset to this country, Mary. Thank you! And thank you, Dr. Bandi Lee. I'm struck by the fact that women were the one's who first called out Trump for what he is. While men behaved like cowards.

[@DavidHager1]

Great interview! Thanks!!!

[@alicecrystalpalace]

I love these women sooo much!

[@bodhiray393]

Great podcast really helpful to really see what's going on. Thank you

[@Petertrottierrealtor]

Bravo ladies !

[@lysas781]

Such an important conversation. I wish it had been a couple of hours and they had talked in more detail. Please do another one and put it on MSNBC etc.

[@masoodmortazavi]

Her book was well written.

[@lancemannion1147]

No it wasn't, her book is just a a Bitter Old Croan, who is still pissed 30yrs later because she got Booted from her GrandPa's Will !!

[@LindaEdwards-us3gr]

I am glad I read your book Mary. It made a big difference in understanding Trump. I am so sorry what happened to your father. It is was just so wrong.

[@gracelucas1999]

Thanks for your contributions ❤️

[@deannedflrocks5337]

Thank you we need to hear more voices of reasoning we as patient/therapist need to speak up loudly against the stigma attached to mental health. Some of us are sicker than others.

[@maryseguevara8131]

4:08 getting out of the Family sounds like getting out of the cult. But then election of 2016 made the cult even harder to evade. Mary's comments are helpful in a way not others' can be

[@AppreciateGoodMessag]

I really enjoyed this discussion. I would love to hear more from the two of you together.

[@emberdaniel93]

This is fantastic.

[@Lifembracer]

As a retired therapist...YES! I SUPPORT YOU 100%. A think every single mental health professionals, educators, medical personnel, clergy, etc. should report "Duty to harm!"

[@swazi1945]

Two Great Women. Would people listen to them

[@RobinMcMullen]

I am so grateful for your work, both of you!

[@lindaguthrie558]

Mary , I have the upmost respect for you. I thank you for all of your knowledge that you have helped all of us with especially with the COVID deaths such a terrible thing and then receiving false information on top of it from former president trump. Once again you are fighting for what is morally right and I commend you for your professional help. Thank You

[@CeliaBatte-o9z]

I do not understand why he is not in jail yet!! He should be!!

[@luckystoller6171]

These two are mandatory reporters on the dangers to our mental health and the risk to the citizens of the United States fomr the risk of violent harm. Somehow I feel this interview would have made bigger waves 3 years ago had these words been uttered by two tall white men with deep voices. But we are listening...

[@mdhh7859]

Wow 😯 very interesting video Thank you People need to watch this

[@Antoniathinks]

I have great appreciation to you both!! I look forward to reading Dr. Trump's book.

[@CharleneDohanh]

Every American needs to see this video. It needs to be played over and over again and referenced by other channels.

[@normanbonk8064]

I can relate to this very much. In my case, I too, am a mess, but not the only mess, as my family sees it. Its been a long, hard, road trying to make sense of and heal from a family that is resolutely determined to acknowledge their own faults, while celebrating the discussion and determination of my faults. Many prayers and congratulations to Dr. Trump- a great inspiration and American hero. Prayers.

[@indira5601]

Love the work that you do ladies 🩵🩵🩵

[@d.f.9064]

Dr. Bandy Lee was possibly the first medical professional to speak the truth about Donald Trump. She is brave and fearless. I like that in a person.

[@christinamarti4441]

You know what’s more dangerous it’s Nov 2022 he May run again ! I’m moving to Spain can’t take it

[@geraldmiller5260]

When I worked in a few prisons, people were there for life for one murder. Trump has killed 200,000 by his inept COVID 19 response, and is still jetting about to hate fests and golf holidays.

[@LarryGuidry-cz4sd]

Hope you read my opinion of your opinion The many dead COVID victims is a serious example of Trump's competence as a president How dare he have the shit for brains to forgive himself and continue his evil disease destroying of America and the world.

[@elissawilliamson3644]

Thank you.

[@michaelhermiston]

i listened to Katie Couric's interview with Fred Trump, it is so clear that Donald Trump completely lacks empathy and compassion...that alone should prevent him from being allowed to be president... bravo to you both for the work you are doing 🕊🌈🌞💙 ...if he gets in, we have such dark times ahead.

[@michaelhermiston]

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[@michelebenedosso3899]

Today is 9/10/24… Dr. Lee called the Trump issue a “Contagion “ which should have been stopped from the beginning… now it’s difficult to rein it in. Let’s hope we win the election to begin the process.

[@twinkletoes48100]

Mary, I am so grateful for your strong voice. Thank you for your integrity and honestly