Dr Boon Lim in conversation with his patient Natalie, discussing Long-Covid recovery

As part of the Covid Recovery Conversations with OneWelbeck series, Dr Boon Lim, Consultant Cardiologist at OneWelbeck Heart Health, held a Zoom consultation with a Long-Covid patient of his, Natalie, who first contracted Covid-19 in December 2020.
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[@janehale4402]

Thak you for explaining so well the role of the Autonomic nervous system, although this discussion is about how to minimise the effects of long covid, it also has helped me with issues of stress and its debilitating effects on my body. Thank you, I hope that anyone coping with the damaging effects of a post viral infection, get the in depth support and understanding you gave Natalie.

[@MsApags]

This talk is extremely helpful for me as I deal w dysautonomia due to COVID. It’s been two years since you posted it and I’m wondering if all of it is still accurate but I’m going to be trying it all. Thanks again.

[@joycesim]

What a wonderful doctor.

[@brobinson8614]

She’s just described all the symptoms of an illness I’ve had 7 years called ME/CFS. We have all of these issues

[@lmbprincess]

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I cannot say it enough.

[@h0llypops]

Thank you so much for explaining all this, -as someone who also has mild long Covid this was very insightful and well explained!

[@Claudia-up6hr]

I'm 77 with long-haul. Many bizarre symptoms. I'm almost bald, can't taste food. A year ago doctors didn't believe me, thought I was attention-seeking, or had a psychiatric problem. Now I'm essentially confined to bed & depend on a woman who comes twice a week for a few hours to shop & do some laundry. A Paramedic comes every other week to check my vital signs. Waiting for a bed in a nursing home here in Canada which could take a year. The loneliness is excruciating. I try to distract myself, listen to music, but cry every day. I stay alive only because I may get to see my husband again. He lives at the home with Parkinson's & dementia.

[@SatumainenOlento]

Sending much love 💗💗💗 They are working on the problem and making new discoveries! Hold that tought!

[@tanyawieczorek6603]

Claudia, Where in Canada are you? I'm in Ontario. I'd go visit you if I could. I have long covid POTS. I get the loneliness too.

[@Claudia-up6hr]

@@tanyawieczorek6603 🙋Hi, Tanya, thanks for responding. Sorry you're going through this misery 🥴😴too! A lot has happened since I first posted a year ago. I did get a bed in my husband's nursing home. We had a few months together. He died a very cruel death on May 24th. There are no words to describe the pain. I failed him & I'll take the guilt to my grave. But I plod on & staff are very kind to me. They're trying to bring some holiday cheer to the residents. It's hard-we've had 3 deaths this month & all the events planned-guest musicians, an outing to Swiss Chalet, a tour of Christmas lights in the country, carols with the Salvation Army, Catholic Mass, a hot chocolate social, etc are canceled because we're in 'outbreak' of mild colds🤧 but the rules are strict. It would be lovely to have a visit-my son can't come & I have no more friends left. I'm in Kingston. Hoping you're feeling better (they're going to start me on B12 shots & melatonin, & maybe an oxygen nebulizer to see if that will help). Wishing you a wonderful holiday 🎄season & a healthier New 🎉Year!😁

[@emilycole6453]

God bless you Claudia❤

[@tanyawieczorek6603]

@@Claudia-up6hr how are you doing now?

[@metanoiabooks3729]

I literally feel like happy crying. This doctor is amazing. I figured out it was neve related a long time ago but because I ha e the stomach dysfunction too it effected bowels and I had reflux and yellow stools and also allergy type reactions. So I'm trying to figure that out. My daughter has the same issues. She's 10.

[@achakrab22]

Thank you Dr Lim for the video , very useful !!

[@carin4333]

Excellent! Many thanks!

[@SA77888]

1:57 This is so intresting.......I too was a heavy coffee drinker.....I used to have 3 cups of coffee within a few hours of being awake probably having 6 or more cups a day. I have learned, coffee is a bad idea when suffering long covid and as a result I have switched to tea. Stopping cofffee has not totally stopped my long covid symptoms :but I believe it has noticably reduced them. If you have long covid and drink coffee I think it might be worth trying excluding it.

[@johanngerberding5956]

thanks man, this is so helpful!

[@LoriGreco]

Thanks for this. Also could be of use for those of us who are vaccine injured.

[@alex99fever]

How can I find a doctor like this 😭

[@gaylebardrick7725]

My daughter, 13 also gets these sensations at night, she was positive for covid in Dec and had a list of symptoms she hasn't been to attend school since Feb. A channel called RUN DMC has been very helpful to understand the virus

[@metanoiabooks3729]

This is exactly what hell I've endured for 10 months. Both me and my ten year old daughter. Nerve pains. Worse down my left side. Nerve dysfunction...

[@islandbirdw]

Wow when I got it my lymph nodes popped up like golf balls. The things I believe helped me most was first I took 5000 IU D3 twice the first 2 days. I had my last vaccine less than 6 months ago. After I took the D3 my symptoms dramatically improved. I had a massive smoothie with a lot of great ingredients and then the next morning I felt dramatically better. As a critical care nurse I have been trying to keep up with all the data. I took vitamin D3 regularly but since I had been traveling I didn’t bring ALL the supplements. I had been on D3 regularly 3000 IU spring summer and 5000 IU October 31- April . Since I live in the PNW our day lengths dramatically shorten which then effect me adversely. I also took low dose aspirin to reduce the thrombosis risk. I did this for 7-10 days once I got home. I have a saturation monitor which one e showed oxygen levels as low as 92%. My normal saturation runs 98-99% So many of these symptoms seem to like POTS is a malfunction of the vagus cranial nerve. Cranial nerves also include the olfactory nerve. This nerve is actually exposed to the outside air, inside the nose. The Covid 19 coronavirus uses the exposed olfactory nerve to enter the brain directly. Also the CoV19 impacts cellular ADP-ATP powerhouse conversion in each cell. Each mitochondria in the cells converts energy from ADP-ATP without this energy the cells often struggle. It’s like running out of gas only on a cellular level. I today am 50 days post CoV19. and so far my only residual symptoms are sudden hot flashes with full body sweat that happens suddenly and passes in about 90 seconds. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@ANUWARIKOO1]

Hi Natalie I had exactly the same symptoms like you post by my 10 days after covid I even ended up going to cardiologist for check ups as the palpitations freaked me out Been 5 months now and slowly I have started to bring in my tea which I completely stopped I still get dizzy after bending down but getting there Any other suggestions for a quick recovery

[@loiwelungu3017]

Why can't I get my energy back..I'm extremely exhausted even when I sleep and rest. I'm weak to the point of failing to get out of bed and I'm shaky in the night with the cold .its now 15weeks, help!!!!!

[@caroa5097]

Thank you. I'm finding this really helpful. Lovely to learn from such a kind and informed doctor. Grateful to you both. I have Long Covid and palpitations and spiking heart rate. I get a mix of palpitations sinus tachycardia but also recently pvc's with svc at same time. Luckily so far they aren't sustained but I wonder is this normal for Long Covid this mix of arithmias? Or is this a separate condition? So far they come every few days and perhaps about once a day then. I'm hoping they won't increase in regularity and duration. Difficult waiting to see a specialist. Following your advice re water and salt. All really helpful info thank you.

[@tanyawieczorek6603]

How are you doing now?

[@caroa5097]

@Tanya Wieczorek thanks it's still pretty tough! I still don't know the answer to whether the palpitations are a mix of Long Covid and SVT (or A fib) or if the arithmia condition is causing them. Not an easy time I think long covid seems to be affecting everything but thank you very much for asking very kind of you! I'm awaiting an ablation procedure but need to get myself well enough to do it.

[@islandbirdw]

The key to many of these symptoms seems to impact cranial nerve malfunction. Humans have 12 cranial nerves that often control autonomic functions. Also remembering this is an endothelial or disease of the capillaries and vasculature, which is why at my age with high blood pressure I would be at risk for. This is a more advanced primer here. May I suggest as a veteran RN IN US Natalie is a more advanced than the typical patient. The visual imagery your using here could also be accomplished in meditation.

[@69birdboy]

Dr boon, have you looked into the link between connective tissue type and dysautonomia. Jen Brea, the poster girl for m.e. is calling for doctors to look at ehlers danlos , but atypical eds. The ligaments of her neck have weakened due to MCAS and the switch in metabolism to a catabolic state. This damage of the ligaments brought on initially by a virus caused CRANIO CERVICAL instability. This effects the vagus nerve as well as directly causing small brain traumas that causes concussion like symptoms She had a speak fusion out of desperation and her POTS / sympathetic dominance disappered

[@tanyawieczorek6603]

16:45 this is what I'm going through!

[@deputyc1895]

Dr. Lim, what type of medications do you recommend for dizziness?

[@elainecumming27]

I'm 13 months post cvd19 infection and still have respiratory amongst other cardiovascular irregularities

[@SA77888]

Horrible innit Elaine??!!! I didnt really get breathing issues during the infection itself.........but since the vius has gone and now have Long Covid.......its only now that I can feel tightest in chest when I breath etc. Fingers crossed we make a full recovery eventually........All the best.

[@vanjacalantropo]

@Elaine Cummings I have tachycardia and sob in addition to intermittent abdominal pain for 6 months now post Covid. Did you initially recover and then relapsed? From what I’m reading most people get better by 12-18 months.. are you better now?

[@emmwal8084]

Theres a video from Patrick McKeown with breathing exercises for covid that came out in 2020 look up Oxygen Advantage. It has million plus hits.

[@timmyschannel5]

Is there a way to come out of these symptoms completely ?

[@gordongroves8519]

How can I get a telemedicine meet with Dr. Lim. Having shortness of breath which was triggered by the second jab back in April, using all medications for breathing problems but not helping and shortness of breath is getting worse.

[@OneWelbeck]

Hi Gordon, if you'd like to speak to Dr. Lim or any of our other heart specialists, you can contact us online at onewelbeck.com/cardiology/contact/ or call 0203 653 2005 to book an appointment. Many thanks, OneWelbeck

[@debsalvesalve7850]

Hey Natalie! How are you nowadays? Have you back to normal? I developed PotS after Covid in Oct/23 so I’m new to this. Any tips please let me know? As all the things that you said happened to me too!

[@tamraholland2285]

Do we wear compression belt to bed ? know to remove hose at bed. just started to learn what to do for this horrible heart rate and hot sensations i feel

[@balakeguy742]

It has to be over the phone or zoom

[@yuanyuanjames8130]

Question: how can dysautonomia cause low DLco in the lungs?

[@balakeguy742]

Hi I would like to know how to get appointment for my daughter with doctor?

[@OneWelbeck]

Good afternoon, thank you for your message. To book an appointment (either in person or a remote consultation) please visit onewelbeck.com/cardiology/contact-us Please note we are a private healthcare provider in London, UK. I hope this is helpful, OneWelbeck.

[@elainecumming27]

Hi I don't think this is a very good reflection of Long cvd19 or many of the debilitating symptoms generated after infection period itself. Cvd19 has a very strong relationship with estrogen. Also gastrointestinal issues where cvd19 embeds itself onto gi tract causing angiodysplasia bleeds. It would be more useful if the Doctor Boon used more long cvd19 victims who like myself have far more long term health issues.

[@tenderheart7530]

@ Elaine Cummings. I agree. I am also 13 months out. This girl shows none of the severe shortness of breath, the edema, the stomach issues, serious brain fog, etc. It is the same with every video. They are mostly young people who have not experienced the severity some have. They need to interview some citizens with severe long haul symptoms so we can maybe find some help. Have you heard of POTS? The docs don’t have much to offer really. Maybe that is the issue. I didn’t know about the estrogen. Can you tell me a source where I can find that? I believe Covid has taken 10-15 years from my lifespan and I fear we are looking at more early senility. If this virus wasn’t made on purpose then it is amazing the way it keeps creating damage. 🌈

[@paulamonty5472]

I agree Elaine...Iv never recovered since catching it on a brand new cruise ship built in China brought to England ...I boarded it End of January in Wales 2020 after it stopped in Italy to pick up officers, captain, crew and we sailed to Dublin. I disembarked and drove home to N.Ire. got into bed and awoke 9 weeks later....Iv never recovered.

[@clairchetwood9777]

I couldn't agree more. I'm 38 in a few months. Had around 45 soul destroying symptoms since catching Covid in October 2021. It angers me that they were messing around with super bugs in that virology lab and anyone who says it didn't come from there must be blind. Why aren't those people being held accountable for the absolute devastation they have caused. I would love to take part in one of these videos to really explain the severity of Long Covid. I'm amazed every day that my body is experiencing these horrific symptoms and it hasn't killed me yet.

[@islandbirdw]

Perhaps that’s why I seem to have got hot flashes after I had stopped having them years ago.🤷🏼‍♀️

[@ahlaitan8194]

Good for the description symptoms but you survived, that is the main thing and so you have the GOD provided naturalised immunity ! Have no anxiety when the next wave of transmission come, because you did make it and will be so much better off the next time ( if you are hit ). Common sense to strengthen your body by the simple normal and natural things of life ! GOD bless ! Ps. 139:13,14. I am fearfully and wonderful made by my beloved CREATOR GOD who has never make any mistakes yet and will never. I have not only natural immunity but supernatural !. Have no need of all of the experimental, temporary and pharmaceutical " jabs or drugs " or whatever !.

[@texascowboy8612]

Give her some Ivermectin and she will.recover. Fast !!!

[@billybrownnaoussi5599]

Took it but didn't help

[@BJ-bc7sl]

Useless suggestions. This guy has old data! Doctor, when you haven’t lived with Long Covid you can’t give advice!