Dr. C. Baxter Kruger - God In The Hands Of Angry Sinners - Session 6 (FGC 2016)

[@benindahl9233]

What a concept!!! The Father IN CHRIST was reconciling the entire cosmos to himself through the cross and His blood.

[@johno2655]

Praise God, this really blessed me this morning

[@johnkemp9516]

THIS is the good news!!

[@focusedmeditation1933]

I love this teachings. I’ve been going through your materials. Really encouraging an giving me light. I regrats thé years I spend in ignorance. I hate religion. May God through his eternal spirit help me to grow in knowledge

[@brentkinglmt-massagetherap7771]

What an amazing, mind-bending reality! Thanks Dr. Kruger!

[@bluemagic9531]

I know I'm one of millions studying the gospel, I have heard many ways to explain these verses , great to see discussion, love Baxter and lean toward his views also Francois Dutoit, Andre Rabe, Fr. Richard Rohr, Rene Girard, PW Young and I'm not universalist. Just try to learn to hear HS during my studies. Disturbing how most my Christian brothers argue God is angry at us and waiting to give us a smack down. God is Love or hes not my God.

[@margeblankenship655]

this is where the rubber meets the road. You either believe Jesus is who He says he is or you turn away from him.

[@Okieshowedem]

May Father YAHweh bless your understanding and show you His Resurrected Son YAHwehShua. The Hebrew MESSIAH sent by Father YAHweh. He has saved the people from their sins. Praise Father YAHweh.

[@epc9678]

Isaiah 53:10 10 Yet it was the will of the Lord to crush him; he has put him to grief; when his soul makes an offering for guilt,

[@sarahgenesis7171]

So if He did that to His beloved son, imagine what He might do to you if that's His plan. Hmmm

[@winterlogical]

My friend, read earlier in that same chapter! "Surely he took up _our_ pain​ ​ and bore our suffering, yet _we_ considered him punished by God,​ ​ stricken by him, and afflicted." What was Jesus suffering from? _Our pain. Our suffering._ Who makes the mistake of thinking Jesus was punished by God? _We did, and we still do!_ And many Evangelicals still continue to make that error. You would think the apostles would have this kind of understanding of the atonement, no? But why is it they did not preach the gospel that way all through the book of Acts? Penal satisfaction theory almost _has_ to be read into the text. As for the verse which you quote, the Septuagint (LXX) translation is quite helpful here (keep in mind, this is the Greek Old Testament that is quoted 85% of the time by the New Testament authors). What does that same verse read? “The Lord wills to CLEANSE [or heal, or purge] him of the beating/wound." Perhaps it was God's will that Jesus be crushed - but I do not see God as the one doing the crushing; He willed Christ to be cleansed, healed and vindicated. Hallelujah!

[@csgabriella5658]

Prophesy!!! Ín the name of Jesus! Ámen! 🤗

[@garyanderson7058]

I AM........ the end of all religion. Religion will always live in You are Not and perpetuate continual darkness.

[@stangurule1017]

Does anyone know where to find the rest of the series?

[@TheLivinggenesis]

Can someone please post a link to the icon painting in the beginning of this video

[@ilmarmeldre2568]

Massacio "Holy Trinity". 1424 fresco

[@TheLivinggenesis]

@@ilmarmeldre2568 Thank you!

[@bartbrownlaw1692]

Luke 23:34

[@joelbutz4026]

what is that icon please, where can I find that? I have been collecting images of the icons that depict trinity in crucifixion

[@richcook99]

Did you ever discover the name of the painting?

[@ilmarmeldre2568]

@@richcook99 Massacio "Holy Trinity". 1424 fresco

[@johno2655]

If this is part 6, where are the first five? Is there more after six? I can't find anything

[@bluemagic9531]

Part six of a conference other speakers where there too. If that helps

[@bluemagic9531]

Drop the 🎤 38:00 bro 😁

[@bilbobaggins4403]

I AM!! BLAM!!!

[@YeshuaSaves3]

In the gospel of Mark it states: “For even the Son of Man came not to be served but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.” Mark 10:45 (ESV) The definition for Ransom is as follows: Noun A sum of money or other payment demanded or paid for the release of a prisoner. Verb Obtain the release of (a prisoner) by making a payment demanded. Who is demanding a payment? So is the scripture really saying that Jesus came to die for us to pay for something someone else was demanding a payment for? That’s The Gospel in a nutshell. God demands Justice and His wrath is on those who are against Him. You can run away from The True God but you won’t be following God at that point nor preaching the correct Gospel. The funny thing is that you sound like all the atheist I have talked to not wanting to follow God because He doesn’t fit your version of Goodness even if He were proven to be real. God is still very much Good in His justice and is completely just in sending people to hell because He is the ultimate Judge. That’s what the end times is, God(Jesus) judging people and sending them to hell or Heaven. If you don’t like that Jesus then you have made a god in your own image and likeness and that is breaking the commandment of not making an idol for yourself. It also breaks the commandment of loving God which is one of the greatest. Also in Isaiah, his prophecy about The Messiah says this: “He was pierced for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his wounds we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned-every one-to his own way; and the Lord has laid on him the iniquity of us all” Isaiah 53 You said you wouldn’t like the God that sends His son to die for our iniquities but that’s exactly what the scriptures say! So why do you hate the True God? If you reject Isaiah then Jesus was not The Messiah but just some man no one accurately prophesied about. Also, Jesus took the Old Testament seriously and if you are a Christian then you would follow in His thinking. Don’t deceive yourself, all scripture is inspired by God. You might as well be atheist if you want to make a God out of your own image, seriously and I say this lovingly to hopefully take away the lies of this man. I’m going to leave you with one last verse to end all confusion. In 1 John 4:10 it says: “10 In this is love, not that we loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son to be a propitiation for our sins.” You may look up the meaning for propitiation but I’ll give it to you here: Oxfords Dictionary: Propitiation Noun The action of propitiation for appeasing a god, spirit or person Or in Merriam- Webster’s dictionary: Propitiation The act of gaining or regaining the favor of goodwill of someone or something: the act of propitiating: APPEASEMENT // a sacrifice in propitiation of the gods You can’t get away from This Gospel message and as your response shows, the reason you’re running away from it is not because of scripture but because of your dislike for our God. Please reconsider your thinking brother, it’s not of God nor of The Bible (His Word).

[@bartbrownlaw1692]

So Adam’s foible touches all of humanity w no choice in the matter .. but the blood of Jesus only goes to whosoever will among fallen man?? Hmmm

[@YeshuaSaves3]

@@bartbrownlaw1692 Adams sin goes to all men unless they choose to turn away from it and go to Christ. In the same way all of Jesus’s sacrifice goes to those who turn to him unless they turn away from that gift. Sin is inherited but righteousness is hard work. That’s just the order of things, why does that bother you?

[@bartbrownlaw1692]

Rom 5:17 says righteousness is a free gift.. you say hard work.. think I’ll go w Paul

[@YeshuaSaves3]

@@bartbrownlaw1692 It’s hard work to receive the gift of righteousness because our flesh desires wickedness. If you don’t receive the gift however which many won’t as the Bible says they will perish.

[@bartbrownlaw1692]

Gal 2:20 says we are dead.. dead folks don’t struggle w sin much 😀.. once you know that..know who’s you are and how much He loves you..prodigal story father falls on his boys neck and kisses him.. keeps kissing him and cannot stop kissing him..wow!!! Throws a party.. you seem like the other brother.. take your fingers out of your ears and come dance bruh!! We’ve been found!!! That’s the good news .If I err on the side of Jesus blood being too pervasive and all encompassing ..so be it..

[@boxingchampfd]

He adds to the word to make it say what it doesn't.

[@sxfnlc]

finbar doran how do? Please elaborate.

[@boxingchampfd]

JESUS said words to the lost about there lost status, in his teaching from the bible, but then he says Jesus said but I'm going to fix that. But Jesus never said that. To the unbeliever Jesus called them lost. No where does Jesus claim that all will automatically get saved because of what he did on the cross.

[@markdaniels1730]

@@boxingchampfd "And when all things have been subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will be made subject to Him who put all things under Him, so that God may be all in all." 1 Corinthians 15:28

[@boxingchampfd]

The part of Bible teaching about all subject to Jesus doesn't take away the part of those who refused to be subject to Jesus getting put into the lake of fire

[@markdaniels1730]

@@boxingchampfd As long as someone is in the lake of fire then they are not subject to Jesus and God has not yet become all in all.

[@danielsmith2447]

Maybe REALLY read the bible and see what you then believe. According to this book there had to be betrayer, Judas didn't have his 'free will', he was forced to betray Jesus so the whole sordid affair could work.