Dr. David Oginde- We've Been Protecting Corrupt People, Its Time We Published Their Names

[@emmanuelekakoro6065]

Daktari, good points you're raising here. I remember during the recent demolitions in Athi River, people were all over social media mocking the victims for "being stupid" not doing proper due diligence. I pointed out how strange it is that victims get blamed for criminal acts done against them. If I pay my taxes and all levies diligently, why should I then take it upon myself to make sure that documents I get from a government office are genuine? Why do I pay taxes then? Shouldn't we say then that there's no need to pay taxes and we keep that money to pay militias and vigilante groups to protect our interests?

[@carlingari8850]

Except in this case they didn't get their titles through the normal route. The blame is on them. Portland had even issued caveats on the land. You can't treat buying land the same as buying milk from a kiosk. When someone tells you, "Even though the land has issues, we are insiders and already have titles. We also have inside information about when the land is going to be fully transferred and that it's just a matter of time," and you go ahead and make the purchase, you're the idiot.

[@SuperJohnkimani]

👏🏻👏🏻 💯

[@franciskarumba5353]

You have hit the nail on the head.

[@franciskarumba5353]

The government was aware of the subdivision but never took any steps to stop it. Even today, those people are walking Scott free, and nothing will happen to them. Corruption is protected from the top as long as you can share the loot

[@user-vq1dx6it6v]

what you have said is true those guys were given the middle finger when the same lands were on newspaper adverts for sale slowly by slowly we are realizing that we dont have a country here it just a country where people with authority bully the ones who dont have that authority

[@christianmbappe8900]

The soft approach being advanced by the good bishop against the corrupt will not wash. The deep rooted corruption that thrives in Kenya requires a RUTHLESS APPROACH. JUST GIVE THIS JOB TO MIGUNA MIGUNA and corruption will be a thing of the past.

[@e.jack.47]

Miguna isn't ruthless. He just portrays a facade but when put in a furnace he will just melt. Infact atwoli is better than him.

[@chrisogonas]

Dr. Oginde is giving us great stories of the past. While we appreciate this, we Kenyans are impatient by mere talk and mere stories. Kenyans expect concrete actions to move the nation forward into a pedestal of integrity, targeting public/private office holders. We also expect to see EACC rolling out programs in all learning institutions - programs that promote decent values and leadership integrity. We expect more from such a well funded office.

[@leonkituyi3935]

Bishop David Oginde is a great person and he knows how to speak sense very well

[@johnkuma6867]

Ongide you said it all.If Ruto can get a PhD without stepping in the classroom just know this country is rotten to the core.

[@HellenofTroy897]

🎯🎯🎯

[@paulmulewa6595]

​@@dominicabuga590What's your point?

[@carlingari8850]

@@dominicabuga590 So Ruto did PhD research while being deputy president? Smh. Watu si wajinga bwana

[@normanthenormand7554]

Absolutely 💯. I feel like throwing up every time he is referred to as Dr

[@timmusumba5846]

​@@carlingari8850What time did he have when he was DP to take time off to do his research 😎🤔?!

[@fredrickowiti8939]

If we would start with Oginde refusing this position for fear of earning free salary from the tax payers. Then a pace would have been set

[@henrylimo3698]

Are you ready to take up from him?

[@panafrican.nation]

Yes accepting free salary from taxpayers while not being productive in any way, is in itself corruption

[@braveensang5835]

If the leaders are stealing right left and center n nothing is being done as they walk freely like as if they just won lottery. What kind of message is send to the public?. We will talk ,shame people and do all sort of things until accountability becomes punishable in a manner that will frighten individuals. Example how did china do it as the list goes on.... Dawa ya moto ni moto

[@samuelo.4298]

Action should speak louder than words by our good bishop

[@GabarTV7]

I thought he had something to say now that he is that office.

[@alialhassan48]

everything has a process ,mnareason asf mjaenda shule shut up

[@kimanipatrick1957]

What has they done to show they have a will to fight corruption other than sweet talks?Have they challenged or called out any big fish ?How can they protect the image of a corrupt person ,how you protect the image of a thief,they are doing that to only elite corrupt ones . That's very wrong coming from him,who deserve image protection,corrupt leaders or victims? IMO,as per the talk he has shown there's no hope in that institution,just like the predecessors they will not do anything impactful.

[@lorrdolly]

Kenya became a society that owns no shame

[@stenaummerchants2046]

Without a serious jurisdiction there is no way can kenya move on

[@samwelnjuguna-gz9eb]

Ukweli 💯 Msipo ziba ufa mtajenga ukuta 🪦 Action speaks🕕Louder than words 🔥🔥🔥

[@Zakcure]

Thank you Latif for exposing this institution. Sweet tongue no results. Why name shame corrupt individuals instead of making sure they're jailed. Shaming them publicly doesn't mean they won't repeat the same sin.

[@boscoaustines2384]

It's People not systems, champions of change that bring resolve to new values

[@UnschooledProffessor]

He is the EACC chairman. Am happy he has concrete points Unfortunately, like his predecessor and several others before them who held the office he is holding, I dont see much coming from his office EACC for a long time has been described as the toothless dog that never barks, never bites. If anything it should be disbanded. It has done nothing other than frustrating the petty traffic officials who keep collecting 50/100 shillings on the road

[@shamirritei9544]

what Bishop did in the overall governance system at CITAM,, will give you a clear idea of the great capability he has in changing the ethics, governance system in kenya if given space,,, but Kenya am afraid is not salvageable,,, probably praying and trusting God everyone is saved, then the change will come automatically,, i believe that is the only way Bishop can bring about change, he should go the gospel/spiritual way,, that is why i think his role should transform to one one of sensitization/preaching,,, the use of force, arrests/charges cant work in kenya as it is, the judiciary itself is in the quagmire.

[@stephennjoroge7259]

Leading by example is the best approach. When leaders in this country stop being corrupt , the ordinary mwananchi will follow the same path. As long as the leader is indisciplined the follower will remain indisciplined.

[@qvsafzri5931]

When we spared the rod, we spoiled the child. We created hardcores and they are now of age....we haven't seen anything yet

[@GabarTV7]

ERIC I love the question what have you done? Listening to the answer.

[@muthonim2905]

Great conversation! We have truly become a nation of queue jumpers!

[@Music-gm6yp]

Bishop the one l respect so much why did you took the job to continue protecting them...l humbly ask. You had an option to refuse the appointment.

[@sapaniwanga9333]

So who is fit for the job?

[@toosharon2842]

Then who does the job??

[@Music-gm6yp]

The Bishop is capable but his name will be soiled, my fears...nothing more.

[@jeffomwela2346]

There is something Bwana Muga hinted at that may get to the crux of the matter. He talked of how teachers were well respected and esteemed people in the society of yore and how this has been degraded and devalued over time. I think our moral decline is tied in with paying our teachers peanuts, giving them a poor working environment and an unclear and overstretched education system.

[@danielmaitethiamemeu4482]

I believe the transformation has to start from the top. Kenyans would love to live in a orderly and morally upright nation but the system compels them to cut corners.

[@iamsyourdadi]

that's a fallacy

[@Joysalamu]

So when a junior state officer hides your pension file so you can bribe to get your hard earned pension, is that top or bottom? Are you aware that even the top are facilitated by junior hence the top do not sign anything and it gets hard to nail the ‘top’ in legal processes? Read Konza city judgement where the judge explains this phenomenon clearly where Muthama and ‘famous’ Ndemo got away with obvious they hide while juniors git nailed and jailed. Corruption should be hit from all levels. Obsession with top is a fallacy of politics inclined mindsets. Top cannot steal so easily without that procurement official who factors corruption in the bidding process; without that accountant who finds creative ways to release money and present payments as normal; without that bank official who ho does not report suspicious payments or withdrawals because the money is processed by bank at some point…

[@petergitau4492]

If we are serious about eliminating corruption in Kenya, we must first acknowledge that corruption does not start at the highest level! It starts at home! Presidents, governors and all other "leaders" come from homes! Especially Christian homes! When the parents are buying favorable exam results, what are they teaching their children? They are teaching them that for as long as you have money, you can get anything you want. You don't have to work hard for it like other people. You can get away with injustice or anything else! Just get money in whichever way you can! Even if it means stealing it, killing for it, etc! A terrible teaching that has been going on for years in Kenya! We are now paying for it! You want to change the future of the country? Change the way things are done at homes! Otherwise we will sing the same song till Christ returns!!!!

[@leonkituyi3935]

Respect is very important and it doesn't matter whom you should respect and you should respect your parents and teachers. Teachers are like your parents

[@gabrielkingori4641]

Very important to include ethics teachings in school curriculum...e.g environment and how to dispose garbage..also a topic regarding corruption.

[@judiththomas3165]

Economy thrives in a place where there is order. I agree totally.

[@raymondofula6620]

Great idea about the schools being involved but it would be more effective if ethics is in the curriculum at all levels of education.

[@joelokello3876]

Forget about matatu can the bishop chairman be brave to continue investigation on Weston hotel scandal if he can do that every thief in this country will run away.

[@kevininyanje9110]

Meaningful conversation always

[@carlosmakau3634]

Very good points Daktari. However, there are two necessary things and these double up as the first steps to this long staircase we want to travel: political will to legitimize and weaponize anticorruption efforts, and; inclusion of integrity, ethics and patriotism in the curriculum. My opinion.

[@franciskarumba5353]

We got greedy. It started with our leadership, spread the middle level, and finally spread to the lowest level of society. When leadership is involved in corruption, they can not shout to the lower to stop.

[@judiththomas3165]

We did due diligence and have all evidence that the land owner was legal. 3 years later, the land we bought belonged to someone else. How did it happen and who can help us?

[@johnkuma6867]

Onside the genesis of all this is people doing crime in kenya but no consequences. Impunity has and will destroy kenya comple.

[@unitedsupply6371]

Sad to say that the men in Rob's had an upper hand on the demise we as Kenyans are facing with this so called Nabii of a president 😢, the church failed Kenyans when they were needed the most.

[@rahadiachogo]

Including Ethics and Responsibility as a mandatory Subject in our Primary, Secondary and College, could be an option.

[@cliffordagunda5400]

This should start from home not schools

[@SabrinaAyaan]

True....publish all their names irrespective of their party affiliation

[@philipchelule785]

Guys we need a dictator, a benevolent dictator who does radical things for the good of the country. Rwanda has a radical leadership that doesn’t dance to the tune of the so called democratic voices and there is order in that land. I am tired of elections and changing of musical chairs. Some radical leadership which believes in the doctrine of “ORDER” , should take over this country and do the unthinkable for some time before we get sense into our corrupt heads. Why this softness and we are all sinking?

[@andrewgatabaki3295]

As long as corruption is rewarded it will continue to thrive unabated. Punitive deterrence is only language people will understand.

[@OmenaJasango]

Tell mr.Oginde that publishing the names of corrupt people in Kenya is not the answer to corruption.

[@kariukiwaweru967]

To help the Chairman, I think we have social ethics in schools. We just need to ensure there is a clear link between ethics (lack of these) and corruption, then examine this.

[@jacksonmichael5603]

The public's ignorance is a government's greatest strength...

[@JamesNyandwaro]

BISHOP you are a let down to believers. Pls leave that office before it soils you. Remember what the church told kenyans about Ruto. And Remember the history of Ruto. You are flocking together with well oiled corruption. Even your entire staff is just like IEBC. Corruption can only be fought at the presidency. Once God Remembers kenya and give us the true person of integrity as a president then you can take up that seat otherwise run very fast from that office. We love you as a brother. Blessings.

[@franciskarumba5353]

When the appointing authority is not serious, there is nothing that can be achieved. These appointees finally end up receiving bribes themselves to cover things up.

[@erickamungo7569]

My take on this is that the good parents of yesterday are abdicating their good parental roles they learnt to people they don't even understand their characters.

[@Dr.Salem-user-vq5jc1vj7x]

Bishop is being bombarded with the right questions I could ask him but he is not articulating well his answers . Let him stand and walk his way and get things done. Kenya is rotten ,we need actions not mere talks .

[@antho-e4h]

no powerful thief in kenya goes anywhere. even the media dont touch those. 17 billion oil , nys, goldenburg, the dams, etc

[@SuperJohnkimani]

I agree, the fight on corruption must be radical. Infact, we must push it further, if you are suspected of engaging in corruption, your KRA Pin is evoked and you are not allowed to transact anywhere, your bank a/c frozen, everything. You suffer even before your case is determined. That will be a proper deterrence measure

[@tomtommiest]

The gov't of the day dictates everything, it's not even about morals. Bishop how do you feel cabinet secretaries get actively involved in corrupt practices and the appointing authority is just quiet.

[@peternagemiomulweyi639]

Not capitalism, but impunity and individualism or bad manners as you put it.

[@boscoaustines2384]

Can we audit successes of EACC, recovered proceeds of corruption etc

[@atl7575]

Our dear bishop has become a politician. Talks like one and even now looks like one. Very sad

[@francismworia4606]

Stories with no ending. He has not achieved anything since he came to the office. This seat should be given to military officers

[@niteshpatel4044]

Very nice show. But you can not teach morel value in school through the education. Most of big scandel done by most educated person. Illiterate person is not doing corruption.

[@mohamedkassim9320]

Bishop, we are happy your body is handling the Kenya Ports Authority Pension Scheme scams and siphoning of billions of shillings. Please do not relent .

[@paulwaga4825]

Beautiful conversation. You have a moral obligation to shape Kenya's rotten future. Keep the good work going 🎉

[@kahugumuiruri9057]

Do they do annual reports? Example, our procurement is corrupt, have they like proposed reforms like digitizing and openly advertising all submitted bids and pricing as a law? Can they call out the big boys? Corruption will take a determined leader to fight, and that cannot be H.E. Ruto.

[@MrMwas80]

What the good bishop is saying will noit work. Start from the top and the kids at the bottom will learn. Start by making sure a few MP's and a few CS's have been jailed and shamed.

[@ManesMunene-wy5nq]

Your mandate is not sensitizing! Just investigate, expose and ensure the culpable are punished. Leave kids alone. How would they know how to be corrupt without those horrible grownups?

[@drcjmureithi6209]

Dr Osinde sir, that is partially true. But look at actions of honour among Japanese where people commit suicide when they dishour. Kagames and Singapore leader make the laws to instill discipline. Ours is ' do you who I am' impunity is the problem, sir.

[@drcjmureithi6209]

Bishop, if you knew or thought the head of state was corrupt, would you face him with the fact???

[@FlavorMint]

Muslim Girls’ Primary is where I schooled. Yeeeeeee🎉

[@peternagemiomulweyi639]

Leadership,Leadership leadership Ordinary citizens we are inconsequential.

[@toosharon2842]

We are not. We are the sovereign people, there is power in the people/numbers and community. The leaders come from the same community. We need to do better from our families to the bigwigs.

[@lovyluchino1657]

I can remember well how this CTAM bishop really supported ruto untill he was given a job by this government. So he should not pretend that now he's against it. Kimewaramba tu. Wataficha uso yao wapi

[@ekm4881]

Hizi ndio zinaitwa " Hekaya za Abunwasi na hadithi nyinginezo"

[@ayubzaka1598]

Yes in fact in states copration with they god father

[@danonduko9276]

Unfortunately the good bishop thinks he's at the pulpit preaching about the book of lamentation 😢😢😢😢 you are at the helm of leadership act!! What are you doing today? Corruption cases of high profile people are being dropped left right and centre what are you doing? Where are the repossessed monies and properties? Bishop if your hands are tied resign please.

[@peternagemiomulweyi639]

Education radical change I remember Prof. Magoha.

[@alialhassan48]

so wat ......

[@benburu58254]

But if you ask any Kenyan, 22:17 they say if I get a position of power, I will eat as much as I can.

[@mapemanelson5540]

Appears to me that the mandate of EACC is not clear to the chairman. It is also possible that he is very limited as to what he can do. Yet it may be that he has no spine to do what he has to do. Long range solutions need to have corresponding medium and short range solutions. Every strategic solution must have a corresponding tactical equivalent. But the fish is ROTTEN from the TOP!

[@georgeonyango7530]

They say Azimio lost because they did not have agents. And so the Thieves had a right to steal

[@gw7768]

...and before we watch Japanese kids function in their environment, lets also watch videos of their transport systems. One of the most advanced and safe in the world which in turns aids safe travel. Here, how would a 4 yr old go to a distant school without being killed by some random motorbike or drunk driver at their door step???? The Japanese teachers do not beat kids to near death. Anyway, imagine a country having an ethics and anticorruption agency, fully funded and staffed an dnot seing the irony in that 😂😂😂😂 whats wrong with us. Ok for simplicity, lets look at the basics, what are the qualifications of staff in EACC and who determined if they qualify or not given the stte of this nation?

[@GabarTV7]

Bishop on your answer I am disappointed

[@nyakwargari]

I have listened to the Bishop and I wonder if he has understood the mandate of the EACC , Latiff tried bringing him back on track but wapi 😂

[@sapaniwanga9333]

Which schools? I am a teacher and i have never heard this

[@evansochieng1983]

How will publishing their names help?they are known. Unless you lack the teeth to bite

[@ndukum7812]

I beg to differ that there are any good capitalist countries. How do we describe “good”? I believe “good” should include the fact that there are no wananchi in that country who are lacking, that the system of that government has not been structured to have some wananchi not have access to resources.

[@johnguantai1649]

Good parenting should be made a school subject.

[@ndukum7812]

This is also coming from the fact that the Kenyan government has lost the People’s faith in providing jobs for students when they do well in school. I mean, the culture as far as protocol is rotting.

[@rosemarymungai2415]

To safe kenya WATU WASHIKWE KAMA NI WEZI we can see uhuru roaming around and yet omutatah said during his error the last minute he was leaving the office they withdrew 16billion kshs and he is here now insulting us with words like kila mtu na mzigo yake yaani huyu mwizi mwingine apambane na mzigo yake, thats why you just saw now him borrowing money from world bank which he lied clean he world do that due to the mzigo the other thief [uhunye] left behind.

[@peternagemiomulweyi639]

What about rewards for those who do the right thing? If doing the wrong thing rewards as it appears to be norm how does one change without rewards?

[@alialhassan48]

God will reward them

[@alexmbugua835]

Great idea but who will bell the cat

[@namasakawanyera3250]

Time will tell

[@millahmills3705]

I'm more concerned about the teachers meant to instill the values!!

[@drcjmureithi6209]

Stop impunity by legislation!!

[@davidmakatiani6351]

If Waluke was a Chinese??????????

[@davidokello8171]

Utopia-Anza kidogo kidogo Change culture?Overly optimistic. Perhaps give way and champion your ideals and let those who can act do it.

[@mariongesare4548]

This EACC chairman is clueless 😮

[@violetwanjiku7937]

First start by getting walukhe to jail. We cannot have a convict in parliament. Eric how was he cleared to run for a position when he was supposed to be in jail.

[@abdullahijma2073]

How will publishing ther names help us?

[@alialhassan48]

think ...big

[@alexandermutakha882]

A vicious circle zero sum talk.

[@moustomondi1001]

What has he done since he joined the anti corruption body!

[@otungalarry951]

That's not a bishop... cooperating with a thuggery government is in itself a sin!

[@Kimstar20]

Hope your appointee will appear in ur......

[@makhulooduori9994]

Bwana chairman first go into statehouse, then the cabinet, parliament down to the lowest functionary.......

[@domnicolal6945]

On values we lost immediately we were westernenised ... something came called childrens right...we lost it

[@abocas]

"We tried this and it didn't work" "We tried that and it didn't work" What is working in Kenya? It is like you have no laws. It is like you have no institutions of any use or value. In countries with law and order and strong institutions,because we enforce our laws, we don't have those problems of yours. I am 100% sure hat people in my country wold be outraged if we had your stealing in public. And we would voice it very loudly.

[@rosemarymungai2415]

The Moi Error who ever brought this monster to kenya finished us completely and the old bugger had Balls to tell kenya he will rule even in his grave !!!

[@safari23]

It is the rule of law stupid Fix the justice system and people will fall in line.

[@ogm4743]

Kindly let bishops keep away from state jobs.

[@samuelo.4298]

Let bishop borrow a leaf from Julius malema from South Africa

[@josephmungai1799]

Do you know anything of Julius Malema apart from the sexy rebel image the media puts out? Dig a bit, know what he believes, know what he wants to do, look at what Mandela did to South Africa and now South Africa is in a mess.... Don't just exalt someone because of some pretty speeches, look at the man critically.....that way you will keep from electing people like Uhuru and Ruto