Dr. John McDougall and Dr. Dean Ornish talk about Ornish's new book, UnDo It! and climate change.

For over 35 years, Dr. Dean Ornish’s series of scientific research studies have been empowering the way millions of people think about the simple lifestyle choices they make each day in dynamic relation to their health & wellbeing. From being a revolutionary thought leader, a powerful professor, a beloved author and respected advisor to some of the worlds most powerful leaders, Dr. Dean Ornish is resoundingly recognized as a leader in health, healthcare and medicine.
Dean Ornish, M.D., is the founder and president of the non-profit Preventive Medicine Research Institute (PMRI). www.ornish.com/
Dean Ornish is the author of six bestselling books. deanornish.com/books/
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[@Janet_Price]

I live in Elk Grove, CA and live next to a bike trail. The bike trail is popular with walkers, runners and bikers alike. I met a couple (60's) a couple of years ago and through conversation told them about my WFPB lifestyle. Last fall, the husband had a heart attack and told me about the procedures he had. I asked if his medical team suggested a change in his diet and he told me "no." I suggested he look into what programs were available through his insurance plan. He's in a supervised program for cardiac rehab and they are now WFPB!!! The wife is enrolled in Forks Over Knives cooking classes and have read books on reversing heart disease. They made my day ~ you never know who you will influence and when. We cannot change anyone, but we can influence those who are ready. Thanks for a fantastic conversation.

[@BrianBeardenusa]

great story

[@smallfootprint2961]

Dr Pritikin, Dr McDougall, and Dr Ornish. These were the first people I first heard make sense of this way of life.

[@sircorkysriley4904]

there are so many good Docs but for me Nathan Pritikin is the pioneer and king

[@smallfootprint2961]

@@sircorkysriley4904 ... When he established his Longevity Center right down the road from me, I wanted, so bad to go to it, but sadly, not in my budget. Still I got a lot from his plan, and his writings.

[@solarray5236]

God Bless Dr. McDougall - a true healer and the man responsible for saving and improving so many lives. Thank you, sir!

[@susanfabrican2244]

Absolutely wonderful interview. I learned that Dr. Ornish at age 19 was greatly influenced by Swami Satchitananda. Beautiful to hear him talk about love, forgiveness, meditation, spirituality, his invaluable work related to human health, how it relates to the environment and climate and spares exploitation of animals. Yes, absolutely I would love to see him as Surgeon General! Yes yes yes! 💞💕❤️‍🔥🌱🐾🌎

[@mrich9654]

These visionary men who are so humble. What a pleasure to watch.

[@carlaberkheimer2788]

GREAT INFORMATIVE INTERVIEW! I WANT TO BE A LIGHT. PA DUTCH GIRL FOR 53 YEARS AND NOW WFPB LOW FAT. THANKS TO DR. ORNISH, WILCOX BROTHERS, DR McDOUGALL, DR ESSELSTYN AND THE LIST GOES ON. YOU ALL HAVE BEEN A BLESSING TO ME.

[@tracyeaves4847]

We cant even agree on how to be healthy!! The divisions among people today are reaching a critical point.

[@johngaspar4425]

Dr. McDougsll I listen to and he is my joy, bar none.

[@lorin9489]

Wonderful, informative, inspiring. Two titans. I love that, despite all the advancements in nutritional science over the last 40 years, Dr. Ornish's message has changed very little. And my personal hero, Dr. McDougall, has been trying to teach the masses his same diet principles and never waivered. I think he may be on to something afterall.

[@abwilson2011]

My sentiments exactly!!! I read Dr. Ornish's book in the 1990s and thought he was crazy to eliminate oils...so glad to see so many more doctors have been suggesting this! WFPF SOS!!! and Love!

[@abwilson2011]

WFPB SOS 🙂

[@dj-fe4ck]

There is no reason to be salt free. I don't know where the salt free mythology started since no plant based doctors including McDougall even recommend that.

[@lorin9489]

Agree. It was from Dr. McDougall that I learned to add little to no salt in my food preparation, but rather to add surface salt at the table. Much more effective for flavour enhancement and it takes very little.

[@ann8344]

@@dj-fe4ck The reason for salt free started for poeple with high blood presure, overweight, and process food addiction. Process food is highly salted, causing 11% more food to be eaten. Dr. Allen Goldhamer interview with Chef AJ. This may not be where it started, but why I follow it. Comment is meant to help.

[@madelinem3216]

Very inspiring interview. Nice to hear someone talk about love and humanity.

[@sherrymace8632]

I was delighted at this conversation. Very informative and not as I expected.

[@kathie4837]

My copy of this book arrived this week and now I can't wait to read it.

[@antonellab1223]

Wow, so grateful for this interview. I still want to believe we can change the world!!!!!!

[@linedallaire6637]

We got all the books mentioned..... we are grateful to you

[@acwrite32]

I enjoyed this interview so much, I’m going to listen to it again! Yes, I have the book but now I’ll read it! 🙂

[@carolinesterling9307]

These two men are both extraordinary! I’m am continually impressed by the breadth of their knowledge & resilience to keep sharing their messages. I’m a yoga practitioner and teacher and I don’t think I fully appreciated until now how spiritual and holistic Dr Ornish truly is! Thank you Dr McDougall for more wonderful content!!!

[@abideenturky]

Extraordinary for Ordinary, never works First , they have to elevate all humans ,to become extraordinary too . Otherwise , their efforts iswasted.

[@pureblood6492]

they both look old especially mcdougal all that diet discipline in vain.

[@cindystrother7710]

Thank you so much DR MCDOUGALL FOR SHARING ALL THAT AWESOME AND AMAZING INFORMATION With Deen ORNISH and YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH

[@lulitmelake7534]

A Gem of an interview that is reassuring that there is hope with thinkers and teachers like you both. Thank you for this gift.

[@alliswell8119]

Thank you for this profound interview and insights. Thank you both for your continued efforts.

[@cobygibson6875]

As usual, FANTASTIC! Thank you!

[@margaretmeyer8752]

Love what was said about needing the Fairness Act reinstated and the issue that our country is in bubbles only hearing one side. I follow both of you, and I appreciate all the work you do. In my own way I spread your words of wisdom Not always accepted but I keep trying. Thank you both.

[@Francine76]

I have been eating plant based for a few years and have seen the health benefits. I tuned into this thinking I already knew what would be discussed. This was informative and interesting. Thanks.

[@Chris-kr7gg]

What benefits ?

[@Francine76]

@@Chris-kr7gg my husband’s health. From having two separate events where he had stents put in, to diabetes medication that kept increasing. With recent follow up testing, his arteries look great. His blood sugar much better with little to no medication. We eat plant based, no oil.

[@Chris-kr7gg]

@@Francine76 awesome I was speaking to a guy and he felt that grains and sugar, nightshades are a cause and still eats meat etc he changed his diet after a quadruple bypass, but said those foods cause inflammation etc.

[@Chris-kr7gg]

@@Francine76 what is your main go to for foods daily and how has his health improved has his endurance got better has it reversed anything in his arteries etc also do you eat grain and nuts, fruit ?

[@Francine76]

@@Chris-kr7gg We eat primarily the McDougall way. If you have health issues, consider the 12 day intensive that McDougall offers. It isn’t cheap but I gave it to my husband as a Christmas present. Beyond the information which was great, the individual care is wonderful. The path we were on, paleo and medication were not helping. Had I known about the Ornish program, I would have compared it to see which is a better fit. Using the Esselstyn and McDougall program, my husband lost 75 pounds, tests results show his arteries are great, off a lot of meds. He still takes some. I am not sure which, but lower. We keep our meals simple but I cook something nice a few times a week. We eat differently for breakfast and lunch. But eat together and the same meal for dinner. Since you are male, I will share what my hubby eats. He eats potatoes for breakfast (hash browns on our griddler) and veggies with salsa or ketchup. Half the plate is veggies. For lunch he will have leftovers from our dinner or he will air fry some previously cooked potatoes and half the plate veggies. Usually he will have BBQ sauce on the side. Dinner is pasta with lentil and marinara sauce, rich in veggies with a side of veggies. Or a split pea soup, again lots of veggies. Or a nourish bowl rice and beans and veggies. Or any new recipe I try. He also loves corn on the cob. He does eat fruit but not a lot. We usually have pancakes or waffles on Sundays and we defrost a big bowl of blueberries. I hope that helps.

[@RafaelbySuzannah]

I love Dr McDougall amazing courageous MD and I learned about The dynamic doctor Ornish from Intergal Yoga when I was about 21 or 22 years old and I'm almost 60 both amazing inspirational dynamo set up impacted so many of our lives the hardest part for me is social enjoy

[@densiehu]

Thank you so much Dr Ornish !!!

[@debstayblessed9549]

Excellent! Refreshing! So insightful and exciting😇

[@anthonyromano8565]

I have to say my improved overall mood improvement was a pleasant surprise since I phased out animal products over a 30 year period.

[@jime1225]

What about thé b12

[@anthonyromano8565]

Its made from bacteria. If you work in the garden, dont wash your fresh crops and just risidule dirt, But being its bacterial made rather than extracted or synthesized its a small price to pay for piece of mind. But vegan skip it and get blood tests and they are always fine.

[@anthonyromano8565]

@@jime1225 I would not be surprised if the superior microbiome in the intestines of a plant eater eating all the residule dirt bacteria, could probably multiply the bacteria that creates B-12

[@anthonyromano8565]

other vitamins are synthesized or separated from all the necessary complimentary components like fiber and antioxidants which is a bastardization of nutrition. They find out the natural vitamins in foods are beneficial and extrapolate the benefits of eating whole foods to taking pills. Its garage to think a vitamin E pill will do the same as eating a hand full of seeds or nuts or fresh plants with enzymes and antioxidants and everything intact.

[@anthonyromano8565]

@@jime1225 Its believed that the high concentrations that pills deliver overwhelm receptors. and as an example there maybe sever different forms of a certain vitamin like vitamin E but the pill delivers only one and with only so many receptors to go around these vitamins overwhelm all the receptors so that it can produce a vitamin deficiency since other vitamins could not compete with the unnaturally high concentrations.

[@cathrynmclean7624]

Great intelligent men ..todays super healers

[@Equinox1.5]

I enjoyed this discussion very much. Many thanks :-)

[@valeriepope4561]

A great interview. Thank you.

[@bridgetmcgrath3964]

Great

[@johngaspar4425]

Inflation might be a blessing in disguise! The economics of feeding a family.

[@jgrysiak6566]

I remember when gas was $3.33 a gallon in Philadelphia back in 2009 or 2010.

[@brianharris4275]

@@jgrysiak6566 it was 250 a gallon last year its 450 now!

[@brianharris4275]

Let's not CHANGE TO COMMUNISM!

[@brianharris4275]

Slaves make batteries for those cars

[@ssamd263]

@@brianharris4275 I never hear of people talking about communism socialism sometimes but not communism. Something has to change because capitalism is not working for the masses but it works great for the rich. Richest country in the world with lots of homeless people and hungry kids, peoples drinking water with lead in it, no high speed trains, slow internet and people with no healthcare insurance. With capitalism they buy the government both republicans and democrats so they can make more money so here we are a broken country with china ready to be a world leader with all their bullet trains, most in the world, healthcare and free education. We fought communism for years and what did we win, like all the wars since ww2 that we lost, nothing.

[@cicaizrogace8054]

Svaka čast obojici!

[@rosskinghorn]

Heroes.

[@naymalg7945]

Hi!!!Brasil......Love you!!!!!

[@johngaspar4425]

God has deliberately set before us evil and good, death and life, Deuteronomy 30: 15 "therefore choose Life", He says.

[@lexvermazen6428]

Two observations: 1 - Dean Ornish says he is worried about our democracy, it keeps him up at night. (I would say that this quote illustrates the problems we are facing today on many levels.) 2 - McDougall often claims that all large SUCCESFULL societies in the past got their bulk of calories from starch. Now, I think it's too simple to claim that all of our problems could be solved by a starch based diet but what if you turn it around? And claim that any society that moves away from starch is doomed to fail...? Could that be true? It would be interesting to see if there's data too support this argument.

[@sl2608]

Dr. McDougall, would you please comment on Familial Hypercholesterolemia? I have this and so does my mother. Even with strict compliance with your program for 25 years -- in my case, strict adherence to the Maximum Weight Loss plan -- my numbers are still high. I am not on statins yet but it looks like that's the direction I'm headed. My mother has been on statins for over 30 years. Thank you so much for all you do.

[@vimalkirti4845]

fake

[@Lotuslaful]

❤️🙏🏻❤️

[@cantstoplion]

🧡

[@ihartsacto]

100%

[@terrimyers3989]

Anyone know where the links are to see those covid studies? People who eat whole food plant based diets get let covid? He talks about it at 30:15

[@ann8344]

Plant-based diets, pescatarian diets and COVID-19 severity: a population-based case-control study in six countries copy and paste the title

[@abideenturky]

Big pharma disliked this doctor.

[@Jim_L]

I want to be very respectful when I say this; I'm in no way trying to be disrespectful toward Dr. Ornish. He's one of the greats in the plant-based/nutrition movement, no doubt. But out of all the iconic top-notch plant-based medical doctors out there, I've always wondered why Dr. Ornish is overweight. I don't get it. Look at Dr. Esselstyn: He's super lean, and he's much older than Dr. Ornish. In fact, Dr. Esselstyn's wife is also nice and skinny. Same with Dr. McDougall, look how nice and thin he is, along with his wife, Mary. Dr. Michael Klaper, also nice and thin. Dr. Michael Greger, same thing. But Dr. Ornish is pudgy, yet I've always assumed he was also a strict whole-foods, plant-based eater. But maybe not? Anyhow, just an observation. Again, no disrespect to him whatsoever.

[@happycook6737]

The Dr. Ornish plan allows small amounts of animal products and oil/fat. I assume Dr. Ornish follows his own diet.

[@Jim_L]

@@happycook6737 Aaaaahhh, okay. That would explain it, then. Thanks! 👍

[@ThoseStairsTheFirst]

Why 360p?

[@mrstiggy8905]

Dr.s shirt lemon pattern is attractive. whats brad name? teach me.

[@MassMultiplayer]

2 year vegan loving it. vegan doctor making book every month its crazy xD we have so much energy

[@Chris-kr7gg]

How much did your health improve ?

[@74griffo]

I’m not a peace love and light type of personality, I’m definitely more straight talking and along Dr M’s style. I don’t feel love for the planet and people etc. I’m vegan out of respect for the animals and make an effort environmentally out of respect for the planet and my fellow men.

[@skellys1948]

Enjoyed the conversation. If the Ornish aside regarding a spot in Hillary Clinton's might-have-been administration was seriously made, I hope he takes a long breath before considering political office. Perhaps, he could read "Queen of Chaos, the Misadventures of Hillary Clinton," by Diana Johnstone, for a start. In this world of Image, we all need to do our homework.

[@brianharris4275]

More snow on the pass in 40yrs !

[@brianharris4275]

Wildfires? Lots of ARSON USFS 1966

[@tracyeaves4847]

Being happy and healthy is a natural state, but our existence is rife with poor dietary & life style habits. Throw in the monetary system - chasing the dollar for your family to have a decent standard of living often forgoing your own helth.

[@amycaruthers7858]

I would vote for Hillary if it meant Dean Ornish would be appointed surgeon general!

[@brianharris4275]

Do you like Chinese food?

[@amycaruthers7858]

@@brianharris4275 , lol!

[@joshyouwuhh]

Rad

[@marierogers1865]

McDougall comes off as someone who wants a large government to force people’s behavior. As an American who loves our Constitution, and understands the importance of freedom I find McDougall’s comments to be negative. It didn’t always used to be that way. McDougall has been the most important plant based doctor for me and my family. He used to promote the benefits of the plant based diet in the best way. Lately, his political comments have been a turn off.

[@TheSnerggly]

Agree - I still love him tho’

[@JohnDoe-xk1dv]

He's frustrated Marie - understandably. There are many people in the US who may well be condemning our children and grandchildren to hardship and disease, because they're (knowing or not) very narcissistic and self-serving, which blocks considered change. The government yes aren't there to order, but they could have done an awful lot to help in the meantime. But instead they have taken the lobbying money, time after time, of animal agribusiness. The Founding Fathers, properly educated, would have been disgusted at what happened in generations to come. That's what's being expressed. It's most unAmerican to stay silent, and watch people be lemmings to their own destruction, surely.

[@margaretmeyer8752]

I agree with John Doe… we cannot be silent. Our grandchildren and future generations depend upon us to make necessary changes.

[@user-qm7nw7vd5s]

I remember a time when Dr. McDougall gave solid, science based practical advice on diet that changed peoples’ lives for the better. NOW HE SEEMS OBSESSED with putting the woke buzz terms “climate change, and “global warming” and “saving the planet” in nearly every sentence he utters. So sad to see how the guy has totally lost it. Can’t even listen anymore. It’s like that film classic: Invasion of the Body Snatchers. The woke pods from outer space finally got to him! Replaced him with a woke parroting zombie from another planet whose vocabulary is eventually reduced to two words: Climate Change! Climate Change! Climate Change! Bye Bye.

[@olgagold5575]

а на русский

[@jj-bp3fr]

It's so frustrating when doctors talk about health and have to bring in the "sex", "pleasure", "exotic" "making love" subject CONSTANTLY, (in every word every answer he gives), especially when your kids are hearing the video and you want them to learn about eating healthy. They should keep the sex subject separate. Maybe the doctor is a sex addict or trying to sell his ideas by enticing them with getting better "sex" results. It's so annoying, I cant have my kids listen to this!!

[@johnscott7195]

It's difficult to trust a health guru who dyes his hair....