Dr Ongama Mtimka on 2024 Election, Jacob Zuma, cadre deployment, Ramaphosa, opposition politics

[@BoikeDube]

Mr Mpofu,i am not highly educated but listening at your podcast,i am on another level of understanding.big up.thank you ✊

[@peterntuli7074]

Let's get Dr Lwazi Lushaba please please Dr Sizwe

[@josephjunior8173]

Dr Sizwe will never get tired of giving us content. Salute you boss

[@_SMWX]

You know this. 😁

[@mcdonaldmagida1142]

​@@_SMWXù❤

[@olwandonyanga6377]

Welsh

[@theonly6359]

@@olwandonyanga6377Mpofu

[@msimelelofebana4052]

Dr Mtimka is brilliant, he's analysis is eye opening

[@reversewithpoetry4175]

Both Doctors at it❤❤ Sober Conversation 🎉🎉🎉

[@klauskotze4508]

I never leave KZbin comments, but this conversation deserves a second salute! As citizens of the Republic, we should all heed the broader call as expressed here. Especially poignant: "find the South African economic model..." @ 1:24:30 to create an inclusive and thriving SA

[@fikilehlatshwayo210]

Unfortunately we were being undermine by ANC not other way round we are tired of ANC

[@BoikeDube]

✊

[@cliffordnoel122]

Well said 😢🎉🎉🎉I salute ur view point 🎉🎉🎉😊

[@sonwabolavisa2093]

I salute both of you Doctors Mtimka and Mpofu-Welsh for such an eye opening interview. It's worth listening to although sometimes you become too deep for some of us. ❤

[@zimkhithabotha3315]

Fantastic interview, Ongama! Your insightful perspective on diverse socio-economic and political factors is truly exceptional. 👏

[@ongamamtimka7336]

Wow! Enkosi Zimkhitha🙏🏾

[@makasanirikhotso8511]

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[@thabomokoena2224]

Thanks for the interview

[@lebogangmatlala2359]

This is much better than television, kudos 💐

[@_SMWX]

😁👍🏽

[@tinashekanos8174]

I'm enjoying this conversation. Good interviewing technique, Mtimka is quite relaxed.

[@KazieD]

What an honour to be graced by our favourite two Dr's, indeed its an honour and a privilege. Enkosi Sizwe mntase.

[@SibulelaNdemka]

Thank you to you both gentlemen, for those insightful perspectives and I must say, your love for our country and its people to thrive toward a greater and better tomorrow comes out very well on all the different themes of the conversations you've managed to unpack for us.

[@ndubanesol111]

SMWX mfo ka Mpofu you are a marvel to listen too, you are very good in what you are doing, blessing us with rich content as always. Both you my Doctors please keep on enriching us and rise rise to a greater heights. We love you Mpofu.

[@TakalaniJMpofu]

Sober conversation here. Thank for sharing such wisdom with us

[@melumzikona7496]

Dr Mtimka is so passionate, well spoken and very knowledgeable. Thanks Sir 🙏 and thanks Dr Mpofu

[@tebogomabusela7936]

I disagree largely with the sentiment that Cyril could have chosen the state, made tough decisions and thrived as a popular President and become interfered politically. Anyone but him could have do that. Cyril has no leadership acumen, his credentials in the liberation stuggle and sense of consciousness drag him down. Between Marikana all the way to Phala phala there is no way he could’ve built a credible state. He is not a character or integrity that is willing to stand the tests that come with this responsibility. I fear this imagination of him conquering the state at the expense of the party is tainted with Ramaphoria!

[@Tinker8531]

The real ANC left the room at the ousting of Mbeki by the honcho of corruption Jacob Zuma, he destroyed country and ANC with his greed. His only interest was enriching himself and his dysfunctional children. He talks about land and free education but did nothing about both during his 9 year tenure. Sadly, Ramaphosa followed in corrupt Zuma's footsteps, instead of following in Mandela and Mbeki's footsteps.

[@ongamamtimka7336]

Fair critique

[@nathanielkgobe427]

100 % correct.

[@truthspeaks651]

My summation of Cyril in the light of this discussion is that the man failed as the president of country, evidence is everywhere you look, and the man also failed also as the president of the ANC, the party has never been so weak, every poll tells the story of the demise of the ANC. Under the definition of the word "failure" they should put his face. What a shame, so many promises but nothing to show for it.

[@Dr_RisimatiMathye]

Splendor of the utmost mature wisdom unparalleled.. this is brilliant from the 2xDrs👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@mazwinonkumbuzo]

❤❤❤You are absolutely right guys there so many S.A citizens who are more than willing to work hard to bring change in S.A.But ruling party is keeping those people inside the close jar.

[@joymakhubela6691]

@mazwinonkumbuzo Profound

[@smangankosi5124]

Next year each episode will be hitting more than 100k views,more will start joining and I hope the join soon before the election because I believe every South African need this channel to understand SA politics and how each political party is doing

[@sammylu4702]

Dr Ongama expressed value exchange creation meticulously 😮

[@sifisosithole7656]

What continued enrichment once again from this latest discussion! 1. This particular one provoked me to thinking about the construct of "The people as holding the balance of power" which element is still missing in practice. Our leaders are masters and not servants and the people are servants and not masters! . What a dusgrace! 2. Political parties to me have no room any more in our current day politics/African societies because they are more divisive than uniting. We could do very well with having open dialogue in each and every province and let the people speak out their needs and from there a relevant governing model is crafted to accommodate their needs. 3. We must always remember that the people came first before the state. The state is merely an instrument that the people use in order to get things done. Which ever party has the people's welfare at heart, needs to win at the upcoming national elections in RSA since the people have suffered enough. 🙏.

[@luyolomenera4553]

This was good Dr. Mpofu. Please call Wayne Sussman with the regards election polling

[@BelieveInMiracles888]

Wow 🤩 guys thank you for an amazing interview 👏🏻 the last 30 minutes brought tears to my eyes … I think so many South Africans are on their knees wanting us to all collaborate and be included … to be seen for who they are and not labelled according to skill, Race, religion l, Social class etc 😇

[@DommieKoppie]

That will never work in this country we are stuck with these ANC crooks forever. If you compete with them they kill you hence the rise in political crimes

[@YT-xk5jl]

That’s never gonna happen because the so called rainbow nation was imposed on Africans in SA after years and years of oppression and genocide, a legacy which has sustained poverty, inequality and racism amongst Africans in SA. So as long as these factors remain, you can keep dreaming about some superficial “collaboration”

[@sinekhayanotshulwana8038]

Fruitful conversation 🎉

[@moalusiletlotlo9974]

One of the greatest mind our country has: Dr Mtimka enkosi bawo.

[@ndubanesol111]

Please bring President Mbeki to my studio, any question on the current & past anc governance affairs will do for me. Ask him a direct question about the meaning of the so called wasted years, Ramaphosa's interests in companies looting the state n his credibility, ramaphosa firing the PP when she was simply doing her job, the whole question about the SARB nationalisation, land question, anc misrule for n anc looting to the collapse of all state owned institition such as UIF, Transnet, UIF, appointment of incompetent ministers, anc cadre deployment policy to the detriment to our country, he must also answer as to what must we do to reset with looming crisis with the anc n mk stories a threat to our nation.

[@Tselangwe]

Doc, you're 100% correct. Cadre deployment should be mixed of rule party members and ordinary citizens, especially on entry-level.

[@witsend008]

The trick is to do everything to avoid merit like the plague. What could go wrong ?

[@siphosenkosimtetwa5556]

Thank you Dr's you are opening the eyes of even illiterates on the grassroots level like me. Much appreciated.

[@theashdey9383]

Looking forward to this.

[@thapeloseane1336]

Dr Ongama Mtinka Powerful analysis superior logic at its levels.

[@LubaLozana-hz6ze]

Insightful thinking emanating from indigenous people. Higliting potential for inclusive economic growth.

[@UhuruUhuru]

This was a very great conversation. Well done to you both.

[@BANDILEMICHAELNCOYINI]

Thank you very much for this outstanding discussion.

[@LaWay44]

MK is seriously making numbers.

[@jeffreymiyangeni4466]

Where?

[@ntethebongani8842]

In South Africa

[@jeffreymiyangeni4466]

KZN not in Limpopo

[@sfisophirie8704]

Yes in Limpopo , if not in your area does not mean there are no Mk party members in Limpopo

[@ntsingaz]

Dr Ongama Mtika such an inspiring voice with an incredible think tank ability to take this country forward. Thank you Sizwe for making these voices available for us public, you guys are beacon of hope for sure. All the best, makwande madoda✊🏾

[@qavanemandilakhe8568]

Coming back from enjoying my festive season with family and friends in the Eastern Cape, Mdantsane, and listening to this episode was a blessing. Now I have more ideas for growing my township and my people. Thanks, Sizwe for bringing the Master Mind, Dr Mtimka. Hopefully, 2024 will be a successful year for everyone 🙏🙏... Political analysis of this episode was good, but I am more interested in inclusive development and rural development. Politicians are failing to do that, it's time for young South Africans to stand up and build their surroundings. One wise man once said Start where you are, use what you have, and do what you can"... Iyabulela ILaLi 🙏

[@ongamamtimka7336]

Thanks for the complements sir 🙏🏾! Loving what you are more interested in. Just had an interview with an amazing development activist who is working on the development of our province! Really amazing stuff

[@ngezas100]

Simply the best brains, Dr Mtimka and Sizwe are something similar to a Thabo Mbeki in terms of thorough analysis of current affairs. I wanted to say black excellence but somehow I don't really like the term that much, but u guys are just out of this world 🤞🏾I could listen to u all day everyday.

[@xolisamelamane515]

Absolutely love the conversational approach. excellent content! so proud of you both. amazingly over this Christmas holiday Sizwe has been part of my conversations. Once you too become statemen you must adhere to this value system I am witnessing here. the problem with status quo is change of values once people are in power ...just to put it in simple terms. I am so proud of you guys

[@nathanielkgobe427]

ANC has long been abandoned its own merits and insights.

[@ongamamtimka7336]

My house mate from way back! Ngazibini

[@siyakasiboto]

The long awaited interview 🔥

[@vusisithole6930]

Cards played right Siz... President in the future

[@gongtv1981]

Dr Mpufu, from the first day I became aware of your podcast, ur selection of panelists, it is clear to me that, u really want ANC out of power, let me tell you something that most people are not aware of, all the political parties, they always promote ANC, only by mentioning the name, and most parties they use ANC model.

[@monkimabiletsa332]

Do not attack the messenger. Also, it will help you to develop listening skills.

[@pumeleleza4094]

Political Economy Master Class🙌🏾

[@klauskotze4508]

Brilliant. Thank you for the critical insights

[@justicehlungwani5459]

Best analyst

[@TeboMotaung]

Thank you Dr Mpofu great conversation and insightful. Looking forward to more episodes like this in this election season.

[@justicethelaw]

I never write KZbin comments, but thank you for this! Great work from our red gown gang👏👏

[@_SMWX]

🙏🏽

[@smangankosi5124]

Another solid episode with great analysis of what to expect in 2024. I wish young people can engage in such topic and listen more to such channels that will give them in insights of our politics, that's the only way we can grow to make better decisions on the ballot paper that won't affect us later on. Continue the good work DR Sizwe

[@nthabisengkwayiba4573]

Brilliant interview Dr''s.❤❤😂😂

[@SibusisoMthembu7729]

Thank Dr Ongama we are really learning Dr Sizwe am permanently present in your class sir

[@MrDJmovement]

Inspiring youngster Doctor Mpofu, Mhofu.

[@emihleskoti4867]

Dr. Mtimka gave us a sound argument about our political landscape. I had hoped he would touch on the issue of independent candidature in the elections, how that changes the game. Other than that, lovely episode.

[@ongamamtimka7336]

Thanks for this. Very important dynamic you are highlighting

[@truthspeaks651]

Thank you Dr. Sizwe and Dr. Ongama. You blew my mind and I loved it. May the good Lord bless you both and cause you to thrive so that we may receive more wisdom from you. May we also have courage to use the wisdom that you share so generously to make our country a jewel of Africa as it was meant to be.

[@ongamamtimka7336]

I receive these blessings! Thank you. Same and more to you

[@vctshabalala]

This has been a very rewarding talk. Big up

[@bentonmasuku5356]

Pravin is a major problem that most (if not all analysts) try to evangelise, at any give opportunity. He is selling SEOs and is accountable to himself

[@mahlubonkemakunga3315]

Brilliant interview interview again Dr Mpofu-Walsh Dr Mtimka's articulation of pathways to inclusion reminds me of what we wanted to achieve in the Thinasinako Local Economic Development support programme. This was a partnership between the EU & the Eastern Cape government that ran from 2006 to 2011. One of its pillars was to build entrepreneurial partnerships between local producers (community level) and established commercial agriculture, thus enabling the former to gain access to local and international value chains. I will definitely be on the lookout for his book on the subject once published. Spread the fire

[@nielannagan5408]

Brilliant conversation.

[@ZAHELADEVELOPMENTFOUNDATION]

Great interview with excellent insights on how things are going in RSA

[@GlitchinGamingforever]

Delightful conversations you've got Dr Sizwe. Continue opening our eyes with the caliber of guests you bring onto your show.

[@MosesMabaso-l1h]

We need knowledgeable and practical ideas to uplift our society

[@Nelson_Mandela_]

Thank you. Very interesting and informative 👌🏿

[@kdchronicles3984]

I struggle to listen to content that is this long, however, since I started listening to Sizwe, I mean Dr. Mpofu Walsh, time seems to flow by effortlessly. You have done an amazing thing Sir, creating content that is informative, entertaining and provocative. Keep it up - Ayeye!

[@njabulomsweli5057]

Well done Sizwe once again...🎉

[@NigelGreef]

What a wonderful and informative program, I enjoy every minute of your podcast, Dr Sizwe, your so Young and talented, and so is your guest, keep on educate and prepare us for a brighter future.❤

[@WandileMazibuko]

You are doing a great job, well done Sizwe. The Koko interview was amazing the best as yet for me. In that you managed to interview an outcast. There are few interviews worth repeating, but Ongama is not one of those worth repeating. I find his analysis imperious and not sober. He has a side that he clearly leans toward, as he should. Yet he mustn't present himself as objective and nuanced.

[@tshepos3262]

Great analysis of the SA''s political landscape. The key word is 'Leverage' towards the end.

[@gpa_za7377]

Major Value. Dr. Ongama is a political prophet! Great sit down

[@jacobkelben]

Great discussion. Dr Ongama Ntimka and Dr Welsh-Mpofu. Superior logic at best

[@elfasmuhauli2833]

Very enlightening interview, objective and well researched. I love it

[@africabase5320]

Here we have two PhD’s who should be running the country like the National Party, instead they and our endless list of PhD political analysts, waste their unpatriotic intellect analyzing the behavior of our brave illiteratti like JZ who are not afraid to lead. Plato has already said that, “The penalty for the intellectual’s refusal to participate in politics is to be ruled by their inferiors”, but our intellectuals are still indulging in sonic boom tactics by boasting about their PhD’s instead of saving their country. HF Verwoerd had a PhD and his plans are being executed by the divisive black illiteratti, while our Illuminati are watching on the sidelines. Education is an instrument for change, rather than an ornament. African Eagle 🦅

[@ongamamtimka7336]

Interesting way to put an otherwise very valuable critique.

[@pulanala1421]

African intellectuals have never solved any real life problem.All they do is argue,hold debates and publish papers 🙄

[@zamokuhlemakhamba]

You're echoing exactly my thoughts. You have a way to express your view that is unique and truly interesting.❤

[@KaizerSauzer]

The problem is that you will not vote for them. The topology of party politics in the country produces a Fikile and not a Dr type

[@kgomotsozele604]

​@@KaizerSauzer😂😂😂😂😂exactly, and the so Dr's may feel the heat from such motormouths who often throw missiles without hv measured the level of saying things.....

[@joymakhubela6691]

Dr ongama well said 👏🔥

[@thabangmnguni6539]

ai Dr Sizwe am not educated my autie kodwa siyabonga for this content

[@joymakhubela6691]

@thabangmnguni6539 But you have wisdom

[@mokgolwanemotloung7598]

The discussion was fruitful in it's entirety but where I have problem in is where you mentioned that our destiny is entertwined with whites.If whites are so welcoming to us why did apartheid last this long?This is problem that I have with black middle class they think that we have all arrived.

[@sisazandisile1337]

Thank you for furnishing us with variety of views

[@libumbelufundo6118]

Interesting interview, learned a lot. Love the platform. When you guys touched on economic inclusion, what Dr Mtimka basically explained was BBBEE. The levels stipulate exactly the process of skills development and community development. Biggest issue was that the big businesses decided to get frontmen to achieve level 1 status.

[@willieduffie4967]

It's great listening & watching these knowledgeable young faces getting more involved ✊

[@theobhengu6496]

Well done Dr Sizwe for these insightful, deeply intellectual conversations.

[@picassocube3521]

Ongama's views are too related to media propaganda, he's leaning to Ramaphosa more than being in between, and thank you for correcting him when he was saying Zuma is supported by the cadres only, I could see his face, it didn't seat well. But his analysis are like this, "if I were Cyril, I would have...", never, "If I were Zuma...". So with Ramaphosa's mess, is not a full mess, is is something that can be corrected, or should have been corrected!

[@cherylmarsh7326]

I really enjoyed this particular interview - very informative

[@Hairbynomzz]

I needed a Dictionary nearby.

[@mandlamotha-z6s]

Love this platform so much. Please keep up with great work

[@kirstenvermeulen311]

Hey Sizwe, wonderful show from an mlungu. Crazy Pedi story, my farmer grandfather was forced to sell his farm by the old NP regime. Homeland in Ciskei, turned into parts of Double drift reserve

[@ongamamtimka7336]

Very interesting. My rural home is about 30km from there.

[@kirstenvermeulen311]

@@ongamamtimka7336 Hi Dr, and amazing thoughts and analasys BTW, looking forward to the next installment

[@obakengafrica2919]

I'm so excited about Dr. Mtimka's book project. I'm definitely going to get it.

[@basiemalwane9363]

Sizwe I'm proud of you.

[@thomasterblanche7831]

fantastic analysis colleagues!

[@ongamamtimka7336]

My colleague and cde🙏🏾

[@sammylu4702]

There’s no time to rest Sizwe this 2023 Dec, it’s war nje kwaPolotics.

[@NkhethelengMaope]

Profound lessons.

[@sizmalambaneosuthi]

Very insightful conversation gents. 💯

[@nathitshabalala5414]

SMWX is highest level quality. Dankie Sizwe.

[@_SMWX]

🙌🏽

[@khathurandela737]

A great Tango Sizwe!!!

[@khaltsharivist365]

10:00 they disliked Thabo Mbeki for that & they called him aloof. He was clear that some people who had been voted in (which also speaks to degeneration of quality of party members) by the party membership eg like Ace Magashule to be Provincial Chair were wholly unfit to be Premiers of a province and so he blocked that. Thabo delivered 2/3rd majority for the ANC, electorally he is the best ANC ever had…its probably too late now given how polluted the political waters are but quality membership over quantity always pays positive & sustainable dividends.

[@matsetlemampa]

Thanks a lot, Sizwe for bringing the Doc. what an inspirational discussion with lots of in-depts and practical applications in all our individual environments. let's create a mass based organic massive organizations and collaborations to solve our century old economic issues. I am a firm believer that where there are lots of problems there are also lots of opportunities to solve them. Ironically, I had an hour-long chat with my friend yesterday about this very subject and how each one of us with capacity should dirty our hands and get involved in solution driven initiatives and not leave everything to politicians but partner with them to resolve instead of being arm critics without our hands on involvement. I am looking forward to reading to your new book " pathway to economic development and inclusion. Happy new year and God bless.

[@ongamamtimka7336]

Blessings to you too sir! Glad about your conversation with your friend. Thanks for the blessings

[@mosseskkrrngota1575]

Both Doctors are missing it.They comment AFTER it has happened.They must show skills of predicting accurately before things happen.Some of their analysis is misleading

[@mcebilichristophersomtunzi2635]

Guys thanks to both of you for such an informative conversation you giving us leading to a New Year. Nothing to take away from you diceted, ayeye! I want to give my interpretation of Springboks with EFF. My is the guys saying nothing has the current government transformed since taking over. You still have to go them(white schools) in order to make a springbok like you illustrated what apartheid was designed for (to preserve White nation). Take now how long does a Senzo Meyiwa case take, it doubles time because it must via English whilst all those people including the bench, is black, it's because of nothing has been done to change what we found. Not necessarily criticizing the team. We thank your work Sizwe, spread the Fire. Good Job. Ayeyee!

[@lolongubeni1748]

Haai bo ! You guys are not resting 😂 not that I'm complaining. Let's listen.

[@_SMWX]

Rest for what? 😅

[@nkhethenichrisrangululu4848]

Amazing

[@songezondungane5628]

Can we have the Dr's provide some analysis in the build up to Elections and on the eve🙏🏽 it will be really special for all young and eagerly interested youth but mostly for the apathetic young voters!

[@phumezagubuza2764]

Insightful conversation Ongama and Sizwe 🎉

[@SiyaKhuzwayo]

Great analysis. The biggest threat for all progressive parties is black voter apathy.

[@bhekan]

That’s backwards. It is the failure of supposedly progressive parties to have a compelling narrative that leads to voter apathy.

[@Sa.r.a.h]

True, combined with those non- whites that vote for DA and their affiliate puppet coalition parties

[@ndoboalan1596]

We need a post-election interview with Dr Mtimka. We need more analysts who are neutral, not emotional and explain facts logically.