Dr Ratio: NEW Pioneer Diver of Dead Waters vs Quantum vs Mixed Relic Comparison | Honkai Star Rail

[@srdeku]

No matter how stretched these frames are, I still prefer this format over the other comparison vids. Great comparison, btw!😆

[@lilducky-chan4116]

Me two :)

[@galleo_]

I find these comparisons interesting because you'd have to have exact stats to even make these accurate, both in crit damage and overall atk.

[@ajidl2537]

Well it's somewhat easy to achieve the same stats if you play on a private server version

[@theguest103]

@@ajidl2537 .......but he's not playing on a private server. Brainrot ass content

[@CCC-q9f]

Actually you can just trash stats (all hp and def and speed) and the comparison will also be absolutely accurate xD

[@vincentdreemurr]

​@@CCC-q9fcrit rate too

[@YourIngrownToenail]

im pretty sure they didnt think things through when they designed that quantum set 😂

[@JorgeGarcia-ur7ez]

Another small consideration: Pioneer set gives up to 8% crit chance, so if you also would show his combo damage over 100 attacks it would broaden the distance between pionner and the other 2 options.

[@orangecat1596]

Pioneer only gives 4% crit rate… did you even test yourself? All I can see is 4% extra in battle

[@phiexi]

​@@orangecat1596read the set effect.

[@Zerocyxone9]

Nope, quantum set still the best esp when you stack def shred from pela and blackswan

[@Zerocyxone9]

@@phiexiits in the set effect 4% crit rate…then another 8%/12% for CRIT DMG WHEN ENEMIES GET DEBUFFED. Read again.

[@phiexi]

@@Zerocyxone9 Increases CRIT Rate by 4%. The wearer deals 8%/12% increased CRIT DMG to enemies with at least 2/3 debuffs. After the wearer inflicts a debuff on enemy targets, the aforementioned effects increase by 100%, lasting for 1 turn(s).

[@accelerator9145]

Nice comparison straight to the point

[@dazzle810]

debuff set is a boost to all his damage and it seems more universal and easier to maintain then both the others which is really nice, im gonna farm it for my dr ratio and misha maybe someone else if i get enough good ones

[@Qopa]

I dont see the point of farming for it tho coz the break eff set sucks.

[@AIA222-yu5ml]

@@Qopa it's ok. I can just put those on Gallagher.

[@anth9845]

@@AIA222-yu5ml I dont think Gallagher benefits from the 4 piece does he? Cuz his ult doesn't target allies afaik

[@AIA222-yu5ml]

@@anth9845 i think he is more of a debuffer healer.

[@pablocontador1328]

it can be good on ruan mei @@Qopa

[@Itskaty._.]

We need that quantum set for every element now😮‍💨

[@gamalielbontilao3679]

I'm using the quantum set on him since I farmed too much when building Jingliu

[@XvAstarisk]

lmao same

[@mcbx3d]

I'm using Seele and Jingliu so yeah... quantum set team

[@Qopa]

I dont understand why quantum. Ice > 4 set without weakness.

[@mcbx3d]

@@Qopa Nah, it's not a big enough difference for you to gain or lose a cycle using one or the other, subs>4piece effect in this case. And I have a Seele, SW, JL and Ratio that I always use him with the SW, so it's more efficient to farm the quantum set and get pieces for 4 characters than the ice set and only use it on the JL.

[@Qopa]

@@mcbx3d you're not running mono quantum so the chances of her landing quantum weak out of wind, fire ice, etc, harmony or a nihility units will ruin that consistent chance; it's not that consistent on top of the general game plan, how you would team build most meta comps, don't have SW on most teams. Or there being a lot of mobs currently for the end-game. Relying on SW for that is really inconsistent just for 4-set quantum to be universal when it's not since I would rather run hanabi + ruan mei than anything lol

[@colembino]

One things i find important to say is that Dr.Ratio with his lightcone makes the set quantum even better that it already is

[@ajinata849]

why for pioneer enemy has 1 def shred debuff and for the other 2 the enemies have 2 def shred debuffs? that inconsistency alone makes pioneer more valuable compared to 2p2p set but i dont know about comparing it with quantum set

[@kaifXD]

Farming quantum set feels efficient and good,I kinda thought it’d take the lead over debuff set,too bad…. But debuff set is kind of worth universally

[@raymondtan892]

i would probably use 2 sets bonus from other pieces, its really difficult to get 4 pieces with the good substats tbh

[@rachmatullahfauzan713]

Any idea if 2p diver is better than 2p imaginary? I’m considering to farm the set for both ratio and mei, but I’m not sure if the 2p is good enough (my current relic is 2p imaginary 2p FUA)

[@NoctisStrife88]

I know this is a dumb question but why put the quantum set on ratio if he's imaginary.

[@grecoalagao8863]

Because defense ignore is just that powerful

[@kaf.ka5]

How about 2pcs Pioneer + 2pcs follow up set? Is it worse than imaginary+follow up?

[@uyeah1234]

I'd imagine the quantum set does a bit more when you have his signature, stacking all that def shred.

[@_Sizzin]

Amazing how you have 3 different sets with almost the same stats.

[@panjibp9270]

I just need crit rate body piece with cdm, att, spd substat so ma boi ratio is complete

[@ElHuntik]

What do you use to record on multiple screens? Or did you edit it in a video editor?

[@Rennhero]

I edit in a video editor.

Yeah, I think farming the new artifact is worth it. Even though the buff isn't that high, this help in the long term (and you can farm ruan mei set as well, while still using the previous artifact in another char). And nice video, Usually the comparasion always are bad but this one went straight to the point.

[@Traten65]

I'm assuming a lot of characters will want either sets so just keeping on farming them will be good

[@yamete_kudasai6969]

Isn't copy pasting quantum set on every dps just better in long term? For better chances of better stats. Cause stats matter more

[@ElHuntik]

@Rennhero Dude, I really need you to test the following Black Swan and guinaifen build: 4pcs Prisionner in Deep Confinement VS 2pcs Pionner Diver of Dead Waters + 2pcs Prisionner in Deep Confinement. I would like to know if the mixed team could rival or surpass in the case of Black Swan and Guinaifen.

[@esnreihr934]

youd be spending 10k energies and the dmg difference is only 2-4k 😂😂

[@guiltylegion7037]

Well in MoC those dmg can determine whether enemy died on this turn or the next one.

[@esnreihr934]

@@guiltylegion7037 yeah .but as f2p, those fuels can be used to other things.

[@aristodaffaa9499]

I recomend for f2p to use westerland of banditary(4 set imaginary) if u have substats crit rate isue :v

[@hlc4178]

Is new set better than 4p imaginary set with Welt in team?

[@gojosatoru1002]

Doubt

[@Laver308]

great video! :)

[@quirkyrose3868]

Remember chat, in the quantum test thats with a silverwolf implant, which is 10% extra all type res pen over just a regular enemy being quantum weak naturally EDIT: IT WAS ACCOUNTED FOR YOU CAN IGNORE ME

[@quirkyrose3868]

Meaning any relic set would benefit from that extra 10%

[@Rennhero]

All have silverwolf implant except for the no quantum weakness test

[@quirkyrose3868]

@@Rennhero apologies I stand corrected, I have edited my initial post

[@Rennhero]

@@quirkyrose3868 it's ok bro :) appreciate the comment

[@nocturn7137]

Can he benefit from new relic's 4pc bonus. I know with his ult he apply special effect but does game count that as debuff?

[@danyalflanders7446]

His skill also applies a debuff

[@omegab4k4]

I prefer the mix kit, I've already farmed it and got good stats, so I'll leave it like that, I'll farm the new kit just for Acheron

[@ucNguyen-lw8bt]

Can u use the mix set 2 atk 2 fua?😊

[@Rennhero]

you can check it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnW0ZpuFpr9-qZY :)

[@HaileyAsra]

What about 2pc pioneer diver of dead water and 2pc the ashblazing grand duke? Just want to know 😅 (I already decided on the dead water one but my head came up with this combo so I decided to ask!)

[@blazetaro1304]

Do u know what's the best relic set for dhil

[@DestaLosta]

For easy build use 4 pcs basic attack relics, or if you have Welt, you can use 4 pcs imaginary relics. Alternatively, you can use 2pcs attack relics + 2pcs imaginary relics

[@yuuta.1013]

And ofc there is still nothing wrong with quantum sets either.

[@ataluscas]

I don't have SW(and I honestly dont want to) and I'm saving for E1S1Topaz. Should I still farm the quantum set? I have his sig LC.

[@omegab4k4]

Pull sw bro

[@aintailstweentales7964]

Nah, better farm the newer set, at this point we can see SW's value declining with more characters getting released, plus the fact that she's single target (just go back to the quantum set only if you finally have a new character who will benefit that set and the one with it, its basically a waste of resources farming for relics you dont use)

[@ataluscas]

Ratiobros, It's over. I already pulled for E1S1 black swan, now I'm building a dot team.

[@lucadigregorio2120]

What about 2x pioneer 2x fua?

[@arks2428]

is glamoth better than inert salsotto?

[@sintel4671]

Inert is a bit better overall, but glamoth is also very good

[@arks2428]

@@sintel4671 thanks

[@begui1044]

What about 4 pc wastelander?

[@Rennhero]

I already made a video with that set, you can check here kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnW0ZpuFpr9-qZY :)

[@begui1044]

@@Rennhero Ok thank you

[@MaxllmuS]

Now i farm new set and waiting for Acheron, new Diver set will be good on her.

[@Stpetersburrrg]

Yes it is

[@Akaneblaze1345]

Bro... Bronya is more cracked than Tingyun lol... I'M so getting her on the free Banner

[@atthanh4223]

How i can find new relic

[@cayden16]

Just play through the new quest

[@animeweng]

Go to Penacony Reverie (Dreamscape) bottom right of the map

[@josephoyek6574]

_Noooo, I don't wanna give up my fua set_

[@edzzzkie]

You dont have to. The difference between the new relic set and the 2 piece combination set is minimal.

[@JuanMojito]

Good Test video

[@Addych]

Thanks!

[@Twoforone16]

nice comparison..

[@1saisho1]

Thank you

[@renz3712]

Quantum is always superior

[@hinoka2911]

Ngl but *imo*, quantum set feels cringe asf

[@Asere_1]

The quantum set was a mistake lol i cant wait for a 5* Quantum Destruction (i dont care about Xueyi she mid)

[@hxnslshhax9011]

Qq plays like a destruction 😅

[@clydee6886]

Qq is -erudition- destruction

[@Asere_1]

I know I know haha I play her I mean like a limited broken one like Jingliu you know

[@danieleccleston7928]

​@@hxnslshhax9011 yea i main qq she basically a psuedo destruction.

[@danieleccleston7928]

Sadly xueyi really is mid feels like i wasted my resources on her. Hope 5 star quantum destruction will be better

[@vvindicator]

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