The Sustain Issue in Star Rail

[@kieranALT]

Aventurines technique is DEF% not shiled strength , your team starts the battle with a shiled regardless

[@ImaanWheeler]

Yep. But doesn’t it also give your team a bigger shield at the start if you use his technique or no? I feel if I do Aventurine’s technique and then go into a fight, they start with a bigger shield than what they usually do if I don’t..

[@3kxi761]

@@ImaanWheelerhis technique grants him more defense, which is what his shield stacks off of, so yeah.

[@ImaanWheeler]

@@3kxi761 Ok, I thought so. If I feel like I’m going into a boss fight or a fight, I might need more defense I just spam his technique until I feel like I got the right pattern and then enter the fight 😂

[@JMike-bq6rl]

What if we get an Atk% scaling Preservation character?

[@3kxi761]

@@JMike-bq6rl might be a little weird, since the artifact set that increases shield strength has 2pc def increase. So either theyre more focused on dmg rather than shielding or they sustain in other ways like fu xuan's dmg reduction. Or we get a new artifact set.

[@sniperpickaxemc]

Then, Lingsha comes out, an erudition dps disguised as a healer.

[@Cpagan722]

@@sniperpickaxemc Fr

[@hikari9262]

An erudition "break" dps. Let's add that word in.

[@Dado_nastro]

Himeko but with heals.

[@XymEow]

​@@hikari9262you're underestimating crtisha capabilities

[@worstpartis20068]

@@hikari9262 pls, Diver Lingsha is superior

[@jonathanrobinson198]

Aventurine does not cleanse but instead gives effect res to the party.

[@davidgoo5579]

*as long as they are shielded, which is always.

[@tilting_cat3344]

50% is not guaranteed lol my friend kept resetting apoc and finally done on 10th tries when he didn't get frozen dps

[@jonathanrobinson198]

@@tilting_cat3344 nobody said it was guaranteed and Apoc shadow is a very special case where everything in there has higher numbers. In other modes, as long as you have a bit of res on relics and the shield, you resist things more often than not.

[@JMike-bq6rl]

With 90 effect res, surely they can resist something

[@Mimic_656]

@@tilting_cat3344they only give 50% effect RES beacuse he was a gambler lol😂

[@kaisel6771]

The fact that bailu can’t cleanse is a sin

[@dawsonrussell7846]

Just get a support that can like Sunday

[@bryanelmesias]

@@dawsonrussell7846 That's not a support's role, that's a bonus only two supports in the entire game so far have: Sunday and Bronya, both 5*, one of them limited, and neither of them are a good support on every team. Bailou, a 5* Abundance unit, being the only Abundance (and only sustain overall, counting Preservation too) with absolutely no way, 0, of dealing with status effects, neither cleansing them nor helping to prevent them, is something I can't understand. Not even her Eidolons have something to help her case. Her Revive is useless, 25% HP, only one unit per fight and gets triggered automatically, by the time you characters are dying reviving one of them with 25% HP won't really help, specially if it's in the middle of a boss turn and he just get killed again. As someone who has both of them due to losing 50/50s, Bailu is seriously competing with Yanqing for the "honor" of being the Qiqi of Honkai Star Rail.

[@dawsonrussell7846]

@ na yanqing is still worse

[@JosepiThe13th]

​@@dawsonrussell7846 Yanqing is at least salvageable. There's no saving Bailu.

[@dawsonrussell7846]

@@JosepiThe13th if you have no premium sustains and the f2p healers are only at e0 then Bailu is still better

[@roy2615]

aventurine main here to correct some misinformation.... his technique buffs his def, it doesn't give you a shield at the beginning of a fight... his 2nd major trace gives you a shield at the beginning of a fight ALWAYS.... which is probably better than what you said in the video lol

[@Cpagan722]

@@roy2615 so you’re telling me not only was I wrong but I somehow undersold him??? WHAT IS THIS CHARACTER DUDE

[@OmarSmadi-t9h]

Lets see. He sustains. Does follow up attacks. Applys debuff (ult. and his signature lightcone if you have it) and... Oh yeah his shield never runs out if you manage it correctly. ​@@Cpagan722

[@AquilaGuard]

@@Cpagan722 Now your beginning to understand how broken OP Adventurine is. lol The next level of understanding is knowing that his shield stacks twice from using his skill, up to 200% skill value. While its true you do gain shields off his talent, its a very small amount compared to just using his skill twice. If you have the SP to spare its a good idea to do so if you want the beefiest shields possible.

[@davidgoo5579]

@@Cpagan722 you forgot that every time he gains a shield from skill or fua, the shield duration refreshes, so aventurine can spend 0 sp for literally forever if he gets hit enough and you have fua units to give him stacks with, since his fua will infinitely refresh his shield duration. aventurine can get 5 stacks from getting the whole team hit and 4 stacks if you place him in the center of the team and he gets hit by a blast attack, and since his max stacks are 7, you can basically refresh your whole team's shields every 2 times a blast attack hits your team also his ult grants stacks too so it technically refreshes shields since it has a chance to generate 7 stacks.... you undersold him HARD. and just in case one of your units has less def and takes a lot of shield damage, his FUA shield is doubled on the unit with the lowest shield value....... so good luck dying with him on your team LMFAOOOOOOOO

[@Cpagan722]

@ wtf

[@lillyie]

aventurine wouldnt be the overloaded mess he is right now if he's purely into tanking. but no, they had to turn in into a sub-dps that not only can protect your team, but deal.... chip damage to your opponents

[@usmanya5110]

And also somewhat keeping enemies from debuffing around 50-50%.

[@anduong8796]

I saw what you did there

[@second_second_]

Yeah.. so now how can hoyo produce another preservation character who's on Aventurine's level? I'm pretty happy with Gepard, but Aven is insane..

[@ucbrowser2447]

​@@second_second_ they can if they wish. - A collective shield would just powercreep personal shields. - Preservation Lingsha - Fire MC but updated for AoE - Changes health to shield (Mydei BiS) - Or basic shielder with different utility like energy or buffing

[@kyarumomochi5146]

​@@ucbrowser2447How is collective shield is better, its going to get chipped better lmao

[@AzureDrag0n1]

They can buff older healers by giving them supports that increase team damage based on amount healed. Basically turn healing into damage including overhealing. If the scalings are high enough then healer specialists can be more competitive again. A character like Furina would also create a huge meta shift. Imagine what this would do for Blade. Blade, Lynx, Furina, and Sunday. With Sunday action advancing Furina's three summons that all drain hp when they attack and any change in hp on anyone buffs the entire team's damage.

[@distritochristianangeloa.157]

Furina version hmmm...

[@Cpagan722]

@@AzureDrag0n1 oooo that’s an interesting idea I like that

[@GERAT023]

furina? who the heck is furina?

[@distritochristianangeloa.157]

@@GERAT023 Genshin character. Basically what she can do is she buffs the team whenever the HP of the team increases or decrease and makes healers relevant

[@haroldbaluyottan]

SU dewdrop wanted

[@deibu_1361]

Lynx isn't just "pure heal" She can also increase aggro of Preservation/Destruction characters for them to get hit more often with her skill She also has HP boost (and minor atk buff with her E4) meaning she can be one of the best sustains for characters like Yunli, Clara, and Blade who all want to get hit She'll get even better in the future with more characters who want to get hit and she'll serve as a solid healer and buffer for them

[@marksmanmax1158]

The issue with Lynx is that her healing is complete garbage. Seriously, I'd unironcally use March 7th over her. Also, her Cleanse being tied to her Ultimate and not her Skill actually creates more issues than it solves.

[@greymantle6949]

@@marksmanmax1158 I only use Lynx with Blade, it's the only one that benefits 100% from Lynx skill aggro boost and his self-healing helps the underwhelming Lynx healing. Clara could eventually benefit from Lynx, but she lacks the self-healing.

[@marksmanmax1158]

@@greymantle6949 Lynx can potentially work with Yunli too (and Yunli can actually self-heal), but you've gotta have Lynx built pretty speedy; if she isn't, you'll have to skill Yunli every single turn to have 100% uptime on Survival Response.

[@greymantle6949]

@@marksmanmax1158 I trust you on that one, I don't have Yunli.

[@camel6848]

"She'll get even better in the future with more characters who want to get hit and she'll serve as a solid healer and buffer for them" that is just cope

[@TighnarisNo1Fan32]

Also one unique thing about Aventurine.. he gives your team 50% effect res, which MEANS if all 3 of your supports run the broken keel planar set, he allows your whole team to get a WHOLE 30% Crit Damage. Insane with his also 15% Crit Damage from his ult

[@Quackbling]

I love you, Ty for sharing this info

[@noermandianurcahyono6803]

One thing i forget to mention, if you have fuxuan signature lightcone. Every wave, i repeat At the start of every wave, restores HP to all allies by an amount equal to 80% of their respective lost HP.I knew that because i have both of them (Aven and Fuxuan) with their signature lightcone.

[@Cpagan722]

That is actually cracked

[@noermandianurcahyono6803]

​@@Cpagan722 actually, i prefer using Aventurine because how cracked he was. I recently got his signature lightcone and oh boy, it really boost him up. With that lightcone, i can charge acheron ult stack faster because his FUA also debuff enemy.

[@danishyland]

Fu Xuan's lc also gives a small dmg bonus to the team =]

[@ucbrowser2447]

I used to use that to bypass old SU bs occurrences and curios

[@kyarumomochi5146]

Its not as crazy as it sounds as it wants waves. Mainly good for PF on endgame

[@Bubbleppop]

as a proud loucha user, you cant take team women away from me. hands off my otto

[@Cpagan722]

Team women will always be funny

[@file17462]

I usually go for women over men in gacha games, but since Luocha was the first 5 star sustain to be released, he’s just there in almost all of my teams. You scroll through, but Luocha is not moving. LMAO

[@lauriee5364]

⁠@@file17462he’s a pretty princess dw it counts

[@Cpagan722]

@ very fair lol

[@sumagestad4962]

SAME

[@tryhardr2658]

Aventurine honestly hard-carried my account. I just got him E0S1 in this banner and here's what he did for me - He helped me clear swarm 5 and G&G conundrum 6 when was stuck at swarm 4 and couldn't even unlock conundrum for G&G

[@Cpagan722]

@@tryhardr2658 yep. That’s aven alright lmao

[@Puddskye.]

Goodness gracious, and to think I had to run triple sustain HuoHuo PTB and Well built Gepard with sig LC to clear the conundrums.....

[@Hina41508]

SAME

[@itz_nickiminaj_pur1990]

Heres a tip for end game su domains like g&g and swarm, always choose nihility and go 3 sustains with someone to break the enemy (in earlier days I used herta, march, PMC, and gepard but you could substitute two shielders with healers too). Nihility blessings will restore your energy, heal you, lower enemy attacks by stacking levels, and more. I just do that and press autobattle lmao, it isn't as hard as it is intended to be if you abuse the mechanics, it took me a while to get it to. Also, I did this with only my breaker having max rarity relics, my PMC literally had the common relics, so it can be easily farmed and the conundrum levels easily accessible with any shielders, not just aventurine. I cleared all conundrum levels with my crappy account back then without a limited sustain, so just abuse nihility and you win lol. I to this day try with my 4.5k defense aventurine (I know it's not the best) but I still struggle unless running extra sustains, so to me it doesn't really make a difference of having aventurine or not, it's just path luck at that point unless you pick a path which you can properly abuse the mechanics of.

[@oreji3987]

For Gallagher you even forgot to mention his sp positivity and his ult increasing the break dmg enemies take (so aven ult but for break). This guy is an absolute unit

[@giantolentino9186]

Lynx opens a can of surstromming. Look it up.

[@4g3nt06]

It's a very family friendly food! Open it anywhere and people will ask for some.

[@Cpagan722]

@@giantolentino9186 wait Fr- hold on I’m checking as I write this comment. Oh my god you’re right

[@giantolentino9186]

@@Cpagan722the lovely shock when she opens the can, forcibly heals our heroes lmao

[@nitroblaze6696]

Plus it cleanses which is still pretty useful

[@vetreas366]

I mean to be fair, you wake people up from faint by using smelling salts so it's just the same principle applied through the usage of... fermented fish. ... Fish is one of those things that should never be fermented.

[@rocketbuster1895]

7:45 Using Sae's palace theme when introducing Aventurine? That's genius lol

[@OdirilSmallfish]

6:00, you should take back that statement. 4 stars while have higher rates, they are NEVER guaranteed to get. You can spend 1000 pulls and not even get a single gallagher.

[@AshAsmodeus]

wrong actually.... read up on the pitty system... every 90 pulls is a garrantueed 5-star and every 60 rolls triggers it with the chance for 4-stars gradually increasing up to those 60 pulls. With bad luck (trust me; I know what bad luck is) you WILL pull a banner featured character in 120 pulls (along with 1 other 5 star) and in those 120 pulls you will pulls on average 8 4 stars (excluding double ups) and maybe 4 lightcones... With a banner event upping the chances for 4 stars in general I maxed out a Pela on my way to pull Acheron... that's 5x pela for 1 acheron... Gacha IS criminal when it comes to expenditure but a F2P player can easily get a character they want if they're just patient and focus on desired banners.

[@OdirilSmallfish]

@@AshAsmodeus key word **A** featured banner character, so there's still 2/3 chance that it's not gonna be the one that you want. I'm talking about actual probability not being 100% to get a specific 4 star that you want.

[@Crit-a-cola]

I wanted gallagher on the fugue/firefly banner. Before I got one copy of him I got: -Firefly (Guaranteed pity) -Fugue (Early pity, 50/50) -Welt (Early pity, lost 50/50) -E6 of every other 4* character in the banner except Gallagher

[@keiticat_]

REAL!!! as a f2p i wanted to take it easy on the fugue banner and just pull gallagher cuz i liked his character. i ended up getting THREE fugues before him (plus a fourth one before his e1). also not to count two standard five stars by losing the 50/50. it literally felt like the roles were switched and i was actually hunting for a 5 star this entire time LOL.

[@epicdude2497]

they have given him out for free many times. if u dont have him its a brain issue ig 🤷‍♂️

[@lloverustique]

For me, the main issue with Preservation Path characters is that their shields have an uptime. For example, Aventurine’s shield lasts for 3 turns (although it can be refreshed with a bonus attack, the shield applied by this bonus attack can withstand at most a couple of boss hits). If you play with a fast DPS who is also advanced forward by a Harmony character, there is a high chance that they will be left without a shield. Additionally, shields do not fully protect against debuffs applied by enemies.

[@tswinteyru5812]

You excluded Fu Xuan tho, who doesn't have this issue

[@sorashizen5130]

You simply can fix that by running a fast aventurine, running a fast team with a slow sustain isn't smart either. First, in general they need to be fast to make sure you're always ready to heal/shield. Second, running a fast team can make you run out of SP, so running a fast sustain can reduce the weight of the SP consumption if you don't need their abilities

[@youravghuman5231]

Ive never seen aven comp running out of shield. He always refresh his shield no matter what you do because of his fua. The biggest issue with this is gepard. Imo he is really useless right now, he cant do syit and get stunned and his shield ran out and he still dont have enough energy 😂

[@ElHarmonyV]

​@@sorashizen5130Yep, pretty much got to this conclusion when I finally got a FuA team that just ended fights before Aventurine could move thus not refreshing shields.

[@second_second_]

@@youravghuman5231 I still like Gepard though 🥲 Well, more challenging is not that bad too

[@MellowGirl2000]

Should've mentioned for Aventurine with his signature LC and eidolons he just becomes a dps. E1 gives 20% cd boost to allies and automatically refreshes his shield and his sig makes the enemy take 10% more damage which can be applied to the entire wave not just 1 enemy. What's even more insane is that depending on his teammates you can run the diver set (dps fua set) so he's a tank subdps. I'm hoping I can get his e1 before the banner ends lol

[@Cpagan722]

@@MellowGirl2000 HES SO INSANE MY GOD

[@Mr_AntiSocial]

E1 makes his ult give a shield equal to his skill

[@hobojoe285]

​​​​@@Cpagan722 E6 enjoyer here. When he gets to E6, he tanks/ sustains for free and operates solely as a Sub-Dps that just so happens to sustain for you and functionally works on any team. He already did, but at E6 he can't be beat. 150% Damage boost if allies are shielded. Which they will be, always.

[@variareaver4658]

I kind of want to argue against the “preservation is just better than abundance” sentiment I tend to hear. One of the things to note about post-Luocha sustains compared to launch sustains is the ability to sustain through in-between turns, because in reality how much is sustained doesn’t really matter as when you get sustained. Natasha can only choose to heal on her turn with a -1 SP skill to one or when pressing ult to heal to all. HuoHuo sets up a global aura where any unit under 50% gets healed if any unit takes an action and any unit also get healed whenever they make an action. The way people play Luocha is just to let him auto-skill and press ult to hold field which heals based on whenever units attack. Obviously HuoHuo has the most points of interaction on in-between turns and is easily the easiest character to be dynamic with which is important for abundance characters because of when they actually have to heal being so important. Gepard can only setup one team shield with his ult with no other traits to his kit. Pres MC has some availability to shield but is one of very few sustains that suffers from capacity to sustain. Aventurine sets up one team shield with his skill that gets stacked which isn’t actually a problem. The biggest reason why he’s so braindead is the fua > extra shield. There’s no real reason to upkeep your shield intentionally because the game just does it for you which allows you to just go +SP basic constantly. Let enemy attack > get fua > wow my sustain is back! The problem to my shield going down was solved by the enemy attacking the shield and they can’t damage me with majority dots/debuffs because I have 50%+ effect res on every unit! It’s a self-fulfilling loop that FuXuan also kind of has but not as bad. Mind you that this is essentially just solving sustain’s main goal without actually doing anything. FuXuan at least has holes in her defense that could be solved by other options. Really it’s not that preservation is better than abundance. It’s just that Aventurine is one of the 5 preservation characters in the game and using him as the definition leads to the incorrect conclusion that preservation is somehow better by itself. On top of other benefits in Aventurine’s kit this is the real reason why he’s so dominant. I agree mostly that HuoHuo, Gallagher, Lingsha, and maybe FuXuan is a better sustain direction as doing something other than pure sustain is significantly healthier for character balance. However, Aven is dumb. Idk why they made this character the way he is but he’s doing something.

[@NoiseRosemaker]

2.x in general is the dev failing in making balanced game Giga-stupid scaling DPS (Acheron) Braindead buffer that is BEST IN SLOT for every single playstyle except one (Robin) Free character that becomes hard requirement for that one playstyle Robin doesn't support (Harmony TB) Somehow the "healer" deals more damage than the dps (Lingsha, and Gallagher the cheaper version) The only sustain that you ever need (Aventurine) Something breaks at 2.1 apparently with Acheron's release, causing the flood of whatever-goes game decisions until now.

[@variareaver4658]

@ ehhhh, I think the only design decision issue is Aventurine in 2.X. While I don’t like harmony as a whole, Robin is “fine”, however her numbers are very overtuned. Break’s design problems don’t come from Hatblazer, it’s Ruan Mei supporting the archetype by doing nothing, sitting there with an aura buff, and, being the best in slot regardless of how interactive she is with the game which is not at all. Also break being an archetype defined by its support units being able to deal damage is just not a problem. People complaining that “omg Lingsha is doing actual numbers” is a non-problem that people who defend old hypercarry like to use. Otherwise, the dps functionally from 2.X are all good imo. For the most part they’re significantly better designed than 1.X hypercarry slop, which I think is a game style that should stay dead. Even if the current characters are significantly above the older characters, they still somehow come out more “balanced” because they aren’t outright replacing one another in the exact same Crit hypercarry team that everyone ran.

[@mk_gamíng0609]

Prevention is still better tho Preventing the damage will always be better than healing it Your healer is useless if the character is dead and your gonna feel bad taking a healer when a shielder would of prevented that death The truth is Preservation IS better than Abundance , unless they add enemies that ignore shields / resistances then healing will always be underfoot since damage prevention will just matter more only way I can see them making abundance better is with over/healing Or healing converted to damage

[@PolymerPerson]

This guy didn’t pull adventurine

[@second_second_]

@@NoiseRosemaker Yeah, what's up with 2.x, all overpowered characters: Acheron, Robin, Aven, Firefly.. what'll happen in the future?

[@realsansomega]

bailu is capable of reviving anyone who dies, while gepard can only revive himself, it made it seem like they had the same ability

[@DarkFenix2k5]

I sacrificed my chance to pull Sunday to grab Aventurine on his rerun. Zero regrets, he's absolutely nuts. As far as old sustains go, I wish Hoyo were open to actually revisiting characters and giving them an overhaul. Almost all of the 1.X sustains are horribly obsolete now, for exactly the reason that pure sustain is not the game's meta.

[@cccccaaaaassssssss]

As someone with both Sunday and adventurine, adventurine so far is MILES better, although I don’t have any summoner units at the moment.

[@acapellaseto]

they just need to release someone like furina in honkai and maybe they’ll find a place

[@itz_nickiminaj_pur1990]

@@cccccaaaaassssssss If you had lingsha, you'd be jawdropped. My crit lingsha with jade sunday and bronya (jade goes first w/ trace, lingsha goes goes second, sunday brings her and summon up to go again, bronya brings sunday up, sunday does it again, lingsha then ults and summon goes again while jade's fua goes off a few times in the mix of this) never fails to 0 cycle pf and destroy apoc shadows and MoCs (unless it's hoolay bc he outspeeds). Definitely grab a summon in 3.X, it will transform everything you know. Sunday is absolutely cracked when you have one

[@ucbrowser2447]

I sacrificed my guarantee on him but was lucky to get Sunday under 30 pulls afterwards

[@Lulu3-m5z]

Aventurine is the fattest technique point eater, YOU ARE NOT GONNA SAY “feeling lucky” THEN PROCEED TO ROLL NOTHING 4 TIMES IN A ROW!😡 I love him though, he is pretty insane.

[@cccccaaaaassssssss]

Real, if I’m not gambling until I hit the 60% then it’s not me anymore.

[@Mr_DE_0395]

They already have a solution, March 7 Hunt path, still a 4 star, but way more useful than her original design. going forward if the other outdated character they can do it that way, change path, or change rarity and improve it. If they want to there is always a way to do it

[@tabithal2977]

Something else to considee for galager that in my opinion is the biggest contribution to his ranking in tierlists, is that his skill point generation is incredible. His enhanced basic attack generates skill points, and if you use him with the 3 star abundance lightcone that gives him 20% action advance when he basics, you can effectively multiply his speed stat by 25% so even 120 speed with this lightcone is an effective speed of 150, and each turn generates a skill point, and then on top of that you have your 100% action advance ultimate which lets him take another turn and get another skill point

[@constabrielbell4523]

Multiplication is a 3 star lc. Worth mentioning is quid pro quo and his sig 4 star lc that buffs his break effect. Pretty solid 4 star.

[@tabithal2977]

@constabrielbell4523 i meant to say 3 star. Either way there's no problem with using it. Sure you get less BE but the amount of speed it gives him is worth it alone.

[@second_second_]

@@tabithal2977 Oh, so actually 3-star LC is also good. I wonder too, because sometimes i see 3-star LC has more interesting buff

[@sorashizen5130]

Another thing about aventurine, he's the definition of "the harder it is, the easier it is", usually the scariest thing about using fu xuan is aoe, he favors aoe, continuous attacking, he favors that too, if you have him you should try him against hoolay, not to mention incoming meta that involves summon, the summon can get his shield too, that means aoe atks gives him 5 stacks, so imagine using him in rememberance team, 2+2+2+1=7? So like instant fua every aoe? As for his technique, it actually buffs his def, so basically more shield and more damage coming from him Honestly making someone who can powercreep him is a crime, its like you're trying to PC acheron or FF

[@boksutinjt507]

Want to correct a bit that Aventurine himself gets 2 Stacks when he gets hit while others getting hit gives 1

[@SmashTheAdam]

That's why Hoolay is such a fun fight with Aventurine, everytime he attacks the whole team i just go "yes, YEEEEES", the idiot keeps digging his own grave with every attack

[@monbebehere1607]

gallachad actually has the most feats out of all the sustains if we are talking 0 cycles and 0 av apoc clears 😭i love this char so much ugh. hes broken for both sweaty and casual play especially with qpq. he may have left the story forever but he'll stay in the meta!

[@SheetsInc]

Eventually they will add enemies that deal damage through shields like they did in genshin...

[@GodofGoblins]

Yup. Either that or more enemies that do a lot more CC. In which case, the shielders kinda buckle and we need more cleansers like Huo Huo or Lingsha

[@dante19890]

Its already happening in 3.X

[@tmtravlrsgoogleaccount1984]

@@GodofGoblins Aventurine is still crazy good for that, since he gives 50% effect res... I have around 40-50% on many of my characters before his shield, so the team basically never gets debuffed (I might have farmed the broken keel set a bit too much). If enemies start doing guaranteed debuffs that ignore effect res though...

[@mr.kenway4554]

​@@tmtravlrsgoogleaccount1984Don't hold your breath tho, who's to say they'll add enemies that ignore effect res entirely, by having like 300% EHR on enemy attacks.

[@GodofGoblins]

@tmtravlrsgoogleaccount1984 oh trust me I know, but you also gotta then build effect res. Hoyo can just implement enemies that have insane high chance to land cc (or guaranteed cc to bypass) and aventurine can't cute cc at all. Remember, this is hoyo. They aren't afraid to turn overturned characters down. No one is ever truly safe from power creep or nerfs.

[@luucx7]

Aventurine trailer with The whims of fate is PERFECT

[@elliotangie381]

So…I got an E2 Luocha by accident (I wanted a Yukong, but my lucky hand got me 3 Luochas in 20 pulls). And yeah, he pretty much still is in like half of my teams, even though I have Lingsha and Gallager and others. Sorry, don’t care about the meta - he chose my account all by himself - it was simply meant to be.

[@INTERNAL_REVENUE_SERVICE]

I think a good fix for this would be to give all healing received the additional effect of damage reduction (like Bailu does). It would stop the problem of one shots, and give you a reason to use Abundance rather than Preservation. You could even make it so healing from any source reduces damage taken, indirectly buffing characters like Blade and March.

[@meln00bies]

The only reason i put Bailu into my double counter team of Clara and Yunli (definitely not because i don't have Huo Huo)

[@youcefgame9908]

13:02 because i lost the fu*** 50/50

[@Cpagan722]

@@youcefgame9908 I am so sorry friend…

[@dragonex4723]

idk whats happening but you called huohuo a queen so 10/10 video

[@JustaNormalDoge]

Gallagher should be promoted to five star fr fr

[@MeryKeit]

he was…with the name Lingsha

[@JustaNormalDoge]

@@MeryKeit ah yes, he turned into a dragon woman from a planet based off of china. Great promotion if I say so myself

[@nebula9878]

Make him a remembrance with sleepie :]

[@JMike-bq6rl]

Just healing or shielding ain't cutting it anymore.....They need to boosts Stats, like Atk%, Crits, Speed, Energy and sometimes SP. Or they help make enemies take more damage or deal damage themselves.

[@ct2651]

Huohuo boost attack ans give energy... so at least her is still quite usefull

[@Kris-w4w4h]

​@@ct2651 Kinda annoys me how Nothing else other than her ult Is related to Energy i mean i get she's a sustain but like not even her eidolons give any energy buffs

[@ct2651]

@Kris-w4w4h her ult build fast, and her ult also boost her own energy, theres also the auto heal and auto cleans on each turn...

[@usmanya5110]

That has been the standard now for most sustain units. I remember when someone said healers just heal and everything is an added bonus. When litterally these days they have to do more than just healing. They need to buff, cleanse, debuff, boost all that stuff This is why qiqi sucks and verina is good(even with shorekeeper and soon future healers come out.). Since verina does more than just heal.

[@ct2651]

@usmanya5110 yeah, its crazy that when you launch 3 years later not only you have a better engine thats more demanding, but can learn from preceeding games. Wuthering wave had better fluid albeit more traditionnal combat abd better animation while also having better balanced character from the beginning

[@vieVODs]

Aventurine is mighty disgusting but Gepard will always have a special place in my heart, that man stood tall and proud and carried my team to the finish line in so many bossfights while Swan crippled the boss from the grave. I also feel more comfy using him because his shields are tied to his ult. So long as he can draw aggro (I use Landau's Choice since that's the only matching LC I have for him), he can charge energy by basically just standing there and tanking hits, and using his skill to help speed along that process whenever his turn comes along. I can usually rotate his shields pretty reliably this way. It's how I beat Aven's boss fight XD. Objectively I'd be better off using Aventurine as my primary preservation sustain, but at this point I'm just too in love with this man and his ice wall that won't quit. And he synergizes suprisingly well with Black Swan XD I will say though, Gepard can benefit from a trace that does something like 'increases energy gained from being hit by enemies' or something, making him more an aggro tank that can also provide shielding. Give him something to set him apart from other shielders, because honestly character's skill kits in HSR need to be more varied instead up just one-upping previous units' sets. Maybe instead of a shielder (Geppy/Aven) or a pure aggro tank (Preservation Trailblazer) or a tank using damage dispersal (Fu Xuan), maybe we could have a Paladin/Dark Knight mix in the game that can cover for people while having increased damage the more hp they lose (so basically a Preservation version of Blade). Dunno about Abundance though, haven't used them much. I dunno I just wanted to talk about my boy for a bit, thanks for tuning in to my rant XD

[@Puddskye.]

This is horribly real. I have no idea why the felt the need to almost bury Gepard, but I will always keep using him whenever I can. He carried me through early game, mid game, and most endgame (conundrums and MoCs). I really love him being the epitome of preservation. It's sad that they're careless about how much characters resonate with their paths and decided to assign the beefiest shields ti a character that has been luck-blessed. (hinting at harmony)

[@second_second_]

Thank you so much, this is so wholesome. Indeed, Gepard has a special place. I always use him, and feel comfy. One of my new 'hobby' is, bringing Gepard to 'babysit' unlevelled/unbuilt characters in mob enemy fights. Since resource is so scarce and I rarely use these unbuilt characters, so why not just level them up through mob fights. So Gepard shields them, while they try their best to bring down the enemy. There was a point where only Gepard lived though. And he did his best to defeat the enemy. It's like Gepard is mentoring/supervising them. I surprisingly like this.

[@NaturalCloud]

I started around 1.5, Aventurine was my first, and only 5* limited sustain I've got on my account. Even tho I do not own Robin or Feixiao nor Topaz he is still putting in gods work in almost any difficult content I'm doing. I recently managed to clear all conundrum 10-12 reward challenges using him combined with Acheron. And that was on a S5 day one of my new life since it's all i got. The value on this one character is absolutely insane, I even convinced my girlfriend to get him even tho she hates his character, because shes running Feixiao/Topaz/Robin. I'm about 64 pity into his LC now, E1 or S1 fugue be damned. It's not even about what's the most meta way to spend jade, I just want to increase his potential for I know he will continue to provide my account an invaluable service.

[@shell6467]

Buffing older character without releasing new supports is possible. PGR done it already, they introduced a LEAP system where it buff (sometime change the skill entirely with new animation) older units, although not as good as new character but still being good enough to complete new contents. They don't touch nor change anything in the original kits but adds an additional effects to them instead, it's basically a second skill tree.

[@keoku360]

Luocha has a good E1 & E4, his E2 makes him a hybrid preservation.

[@justpixeltv9246]

If you need the E2 to make a limited 5* okay-ish, then that Unit isnt really great to begin with. Look at other E2s or E1s. Aventurine E1 makes him even more insane by providing Crit Damage, his E2 makes him able to inflict Type Res down with his Basic Attack. Fu Xuans E1 makes her give 30% Crit Damage on top of her 15% Crit rate aka she gives a perfect 1:2 crit ratio to the entire team, and her E2 Invalidates Bailu by doing the same thing. Huohuos E1 makes her Skillpoint positive (And keep in mind she is already Skill-point neutral at E0) and her E2 also just revives people, except instead of once per battle its twice because why not. Lingshas E1 reduces the Defense of enemies by 20% and increases her Weakness Break Efficiency (This just reads "More Teamwide Damage"), and her E2 give ALL allies 40% Break effect on Ult usage for 3 turns. Luocha gives a 20% ATK boos on his E1 and a shield that is about the size of March 7ths on his E2, and the Shield also only procs if the target healed is over 50% HP. Yes you could argue that all those Revival E2s are probably never going to proc anyway because of how good Fu Xuan especially is at preventing the DPS loss that is dying, but her E1 is also just way more insane than Luochas 20% atk boost, especially since Robin exists who already gives massive ATK%, with % stacking somewhat badly because of how math works. I will say, the Idea of Luocha basically combining Harmony, preservation and abundance in his E0 E1 and E2 is somewhat interesting, but ultimately he is a jack of few trades and master of one.

[@joey-desu]

@@justpixeltv9246 u dont need e2 to make him okayish lmao, hes already just fine at e0. He easily keeps ur team alive without having to spend a single skillpoint ever, which is already enough to use him in certain teams.

[@Jade.051]

⁠@@justpixeltv9246You mean if a character becomes way better with higher eidolons then the character is bad?😂 That’s every character, how surprising!

[@Senphii]

I get what pixel is saying even if it came out wrong. The problem with Luocha is more in the fact of opportunity cost and powercreep. All limited characters are subjected to the same 50/50 90 hard pity banners that come along every once in a while that Luocha's quite frankly lacking base kit being remedied with eidolons is a little meaningless when you can get Aventurine's or Lingsha's amazing base kits with similar or less investment on their runs. This is even more of a pain point if said character has amazing eidolons or lightcones where the investment in making Luocha competitive is still better used on them instead, Aventurine becomes an even better sub-dps and crit battery while making the team basically invincible, Fuxuan with her lightcone can heal the team for extreme amounts while also providing similar damage buffs and her own sustain, Lingsha's solid base kit and toughness damage is further enhanced allowing her to provide even stronger buffs and breaking enemies at illegal rates, etc etc. The main problem is not that Luocha is bad at his job but that he only does his job, keeping your team alive. The same job that any modern sustain can do competently to the point where Gallagher, a 4 Star, can top off your units just as well while ALSO being as SP positive. Luocha doesn't want more investment he NEEDS more investment to even be comparable in power to his newer contemporaries and still arguably doesn't even provide as much as other sustains do. At what point do we say "It just isn't worth pulling for.", I would safely say we have long since already reached that point for him. E2 Gallagher is a perfectly usable "Luocha at home." and literally any other limited sustain is more worth your pulls.

[@keoku360]

I just think that it's weird what other older characters are allowed to have their Eidolons brought up when talking about them as characters, but no matter what it's never brought up with Luocha. And it's always been this way, even back then when talking about the characters people talked about their Eidolons then ignore Luocha's. I understand that not everyone pulls for copies, I'm not saying that people should or shouldn't, it's just that even among the people who do pull for copies they still don't bring up what Luocha can do. So my original comment I didn't mean anything about it, I just personally feel the need to bring it up because nose else will.

[@emerald2002]

Lynx does actually have some effects that make her good for certain team comps, it’s just that those teams aren’t meta currently and are more niche, since she increases the chance Preservation/Destruction characters get targeted she’s useful for Clara, Yunli, and Blade (+ Mydei in 3.1 if rumors on his kit are true) … and i guess Aventurine if you wanted to run a weird dual sustain comp for some reason since he’d get the stacks for his follow up more often. Basically Natasha and Bailu are the only genuinely bad healers which isn’t a huge surprise when they’re from 1.0

[@immort4730]

It’s important to remember that tier lists and meta characters come from synergies in the team roster, not necessarily from just being overtuned. Gallagher happened to capitalize on the break meta that Hoyo was pushing out at the time. I’m sure if hoyo was pushing for a counter meta, lynx would also be SS tier since she is one of the only characters that can provide a taunt to destruction units (the other one being March 7th but she’s undertuned).

[@o0Tewi0o]

Powercrep Rail having extra powercrep in sustains, what a surprise 😂

[@bryanelmesias]

Aventurine explained: 1. He gives a Shield equal to his skill usage at the start of the battle thanks to an Ascension talent, it is not his overworld technique. You always start the battle with 1 shield on everyone, and can max it out (max stack is twice his skill shield value) on Aventurine's first turn by casting the skill once 2. Overworld technique gives him a DEF buff. His shield (and his damage, his crit chance, his whole kit) scales off DEF, so using it before an encounter will grant you a bigger shield for 3 turns 3.His max Shield value at Talent lv10 is bigger than Gepard's: Aventurine's max shield value is 48% DEF + 640 ((24%DEF + 320) x2 because it stacks), Gepard's 45% DEF + 600. Aventurine can refresh his shield every turn (skill) or automatically (FUA talent refreshes part of his shield for everyone), Gepard needs his Ult, which on a good rotation (skill usage + Energy recharge rope) takes around 3 turns to recharge. 4. While he can't cleanse status effects (neither can't other Preservations, except March 7th, but she is crap as Preservation) he gives a +50% Effect Resistance to the whole party with his shields + he himself gets 1 inmunity against Control status that gets refreshed every other turn. So yeah, all this walltext to confirm that indeed, Aventurine is by far the best Preservation unit and best sustain in the game + has strong subDPS capabilities by getting Crit for free by stacking Defense on him and can also debuff enemies with his Ult and if you have his Light Cone with his Follow Up attack too so he is also great for Acheron teams

[@second_second_]

too OP. so what'll happen in the future, higher and higher enemy HP? what about people who cant get him, or use other characters? how will future preservation be?how to use past preservation?

[@karamina2906]

I'm new here but your pronunciation of Huohuo is perfect!

[@kleber8793]

As a Chinese your Huohuo pronunciation was really nice!! It’s exactly how I pronounce her name

[@amp-le4699]

That Aventurine edit (that wasn't done for the other sustains) went so hard for no reason, im here for it

[@second_second_]

Just to answer your question, "Why pick the 'lesser' one, when better ones exist?" To give ourselves challenges. If everything is easy, it'll be boring

[@zeddbalszredd4740]

So why Gallagher? (Im talking about E6 with All traces since hes a 4*) - A 4* unit is cheaper to build. - SP positive (BA-ULT-BA; generates 2 sp, what more if 160 spd) - Has crazy high Eff RES (mine is 41.2% base at E1, that's + 50%) - Skill heals, cleanses and can buff allies Eff RES (Buffing Eff Res is some premium mechanic) - Ult debuffs enemies with Besotted (heals you when attacking) and advances action by 100% - Besotted Increases Break Dmg Taken - Debuffs an enemy ATK with Enhanced BA, then heals your party. He was released during Year 1 anniversary along with Luocha and Acheron's banner, and as a 4* he's truly an exceptional unit. He fits almost every team. I personally consider him as my jack of all teams because he's the only sustain I have that is actually good. Gallagher glazer but how can I not when he pretty much carried me for since his release.

[@ludekmaly3900]

It should be mentioned that Fu xuan has a control prevention built in her traces, so thats an extra reason she's often great, as it for example makes Kafka fights trivial, and makes dealing with Propagation bugs easy.

[@sleepysaiken3984]

Im a f2p now but i used to buy a lot of the monthly passes and BP so i got quite a few early characters, but the ones i missed out on in favor for characters i liked more design wise were HuoHuo Aventrine and Topaz ect, i didn't care much in the long run since i planned on getting luocha cause i liked him and i had no interest in follow up, but as the meta of the Penacony era started to unravel every new character had some sort of benefit that could only be gained from other new characters. Aventurine is not only an amazing shielder, but has a built in debuff on his basic for Acheron, and a follow up for the multitude of Penacony characters that gained something from multiple attacks, Huo Huo has an ATK buff for DoT teams, and energy for Ultimate hungry characters like DHIL and Sparkle, Lingsha heals, buffs break, and is pretty much a dps in her own right for superbreak teams. Its not that older sustains cant hold up (for the most part), its that newer ones have such loaded kits that compliment these extremely specific meta archetypes. Follow up attacks, debuffs, break buffs, are so much of a hot commodity that when you don't have them, you're just another healer or shielder, of course this is just how gatcha games progress, but i do hope they add new lightcones/relics or something to increase the value of older sustains down the road.

[@ImCringeButIamFree]

Not related to the video, i'm just sharing, but i remember that my 4-star relic set for Natasha was so strong, that even after i got my Gallagher E6-d but had no resourses to build him (i enjoyed my story quests before building up other chars than ones i used in my team until Sunday boss form) that i beat the shit out of Aventurine with all my team alive and well-being, even Tingyun, with her ult that was charging every three turns. I got lucky with almost all relics having energy regeneration, and Natasha was healing and healing and healing-while Misha attaking dices and making most of dmg to the boss

[@second_second_]

Wow, it's great to hear about characters that most people say 'not good enough', manage to beat the enemy. Not only Natasha, but Misha too. Thank you, this is interesting

[@ladyhdwastaken]

IMO: Gepard is still really freaking good if you build him properly. I think the latest Prydwen update shows he’s been unironically doing really well and seeing more use in pure fiction. Aventurine is disgusting. I pulled him on my main account and f2p account. His traces aren’t even done and he’s already performing like crazy. Huohuo is my go to sustain for most situations where I don’t need offensive capacity from the sustain and could use energy and attack buffs (she is so freaking good and her autocleanse is unbeatable). Gallagher is my option when I need fire break and offensive utility. Luocha is there when I just need straight up consistent healing and he does a damn good job. Lynx I use in niche cases but she is having a harder time keeping up with fast enemies I think there is some merit to using Bailu specifically on bosses you don’t need cleanse and just need healing (ahem Hoolay).

[@saltyismymiddlename97]

I did compare gepard and aventurine in hoolay floor. Gepard took me 7-8 cycle with ratio fua team (skill issue I know). When I pull for Aventurine I tested him out on hoolay with half build trace and random deff relics. It took 4 Cycle on my first try... Shield wise, they both performed similar in hoolay case, since gepard can guaranteed to spam his ult. But, extra synergy and fua of aventurine does add more to his value overall.

[@glitchtwist9762]

To be honest, the only thing that sets back Gepard from Aventurine is his 3rd trace. Like, giving damage to sustain is strange, especially if it is Gepard who deals damage based on ATK, and not DEF. They could just change his 3rd trace to something like: "Whenever Gepard takes damage without his shield on, restores 1 or 2 extra energy".

[@second_second_]

Thank you. This is very helpful. I still like Gepard too

[@RoseSpaceCat]

one thing i want to mention about Lynx is that she can be a minor HouHou with Eidolons, specifically E4, she DOES boost damage off of her unique regen buff named "Survival Response" which boosts damage equal to 3% of her max hp, which is good if you're working with a hyper carry setup and f2p since they had been giving out a lot of Lynx for a time

[@ThatReplyGuy]

A good fit for a pure Healer, I think, would be a character that is able to overheal characters past their max hp, effectively increasing their max hp, albeit temporarily. This would pair well with characters like Blade, and is effectively a shield on top when health is already full.

[@kawnerung]

This vid pop up into my fyp right after i build my bailu

[@boiledliddo]

I used Natasha to sustain a team in MoC 12 yesterday. She still did fine, no one died. 36 stars clear.

[@Josearnaldomanuel2]

4:00 I think March still has her place. In SU and DU where Freeze gets buffed to ridiculous amounts because of Disassociation, Weakness implant and the extra freeze chances. EHR March can carry a team by just not allowing enemies to move at all. She's sustaining by both her shields and delaying enemies. Kinda like how Welt can sustain.

[@senu.]

pulled aventurine today and the way im finallt enjoying playing the game is criminal.

[@sampannavaibhavjoshi5777]

Also if Huohuo wasnt aldready broken, heres MORE She has gains 2 charges that allow her to do minor heals every time a teammate takes action AND CLEANSES 1 DEBUFF WITH THE MAX AMOUNT BEING 16 WHO TF NEEDS TO CLEANSE 16 TIMES BRO

[@diablosjupi]

another amazing thing about Fu Xuan is that she grants you immunity to any negative stat 1 time and that immunity resets every time you use her ult. It's a time saver when you're against enemies that freeze or imprison your characters

[@ihaveyourphone]

i mean making gallagher the best sustain and hes 4 star makes sense so atleast those who low spend can have a chance on beating certain stages otherwise if hes 5 star sure they would make more money but it would be nicer overall for the game

[@neil3500]

Subscribed! Looking forward to continued content :)

[@solidsnail44]

The need for sustain unit is not really about healing in late game but cleanse debuff,can do damage if your dps go to sleep.people keep down play sustain because right now for end game content there are no need for stamina like other gacha.The moments you can't reset that bad run for free that the moments you know the need of a sustain.

[@persleng1536]

Bailu the dragon lady is the goat u just need 100% effect res on everyone

[@andychua2766]

Huohuo still the goat of sustain tho. I hate aventurines extra effect of giving the party eff res and hoyo has started abusing us with enemies that spam us with debuffs.

[@robthames5065]

Aventurine gives you the everything proof shield from those games you played as a kid.

[@OutlawViIe]

Lynx's can is surströmming. Hence the clothes pin on the nose in her eidolon 3 art to block the smell.

[@JayJaytheScrub]

Having played other turn-based gachas like this, pure healing pretty much always fall-off late game, it's an unfortunate nature of turn-base because why heal when you can just not take damage either with shields or by killing the enemy first. That said, something they can do if they dont want to adjust the characters themselves is add some kind of unit specific augment. Like a special lightcone or add a new slot unique to old characters for "charms" or something that will add on to their existing kit. Say if Natasha''s ult also provided a crit buff scaling with HP up to a cap, or if Seele just had innate enemy hp scaling dmg. Being as old as it is, Azur Lane had dealt with this through both retrofits (essentially evolving the unit into a stronger version, normally unlocking an additional skill and increased base stats.) and more recently the use of augments (the charm thing described above). Epic seven does edit their characters, but they also have "Exclusive equipment" which is a special slot for gear/relics that adds on to 1 of the character's skills with 1/3 possible augments.

[@mk_gamíng0609]

They could add enemies that ignore shields and resistances Genshin did that, when it had its period of shield dominance and judging by how HSR releases enemies that only the current release of characters can effectively deal with I would say they will do that

[@past6480]

Gallagher was so good that I got a 2nd better version of him

[@Cpagan722]

@@past6480 real af

[@Karzakus]

I would argue the bigger thing with fu xuan is the 100% team wide immunity to crowd control in her base kit. Especially at high level the biggest concern is when the boss inflicts a "steal your turn" debuff on your important teammates

[@masterplusmargarita]

This is a simple consequence of "sustain" being a really simple role. All you need to do to be a viable sustain is to make it so that your team isn't dead by the end of the fight. Once you've released Luocha - a character who can incredibly easily sustain a team with minimal effort and next to no SP usage - you're sort of taped out on what you can do with the sustain role. If your characters don't die, you've sustained as well as you can, there's literally no room to grow. Unlike DPS or buffs, where it's a matter of degrees, sustaining is a binary outcome - do any of your teammates die, yes or no? So, how do you design a better sustain than someone who can sustain? Well, you don't - you go down the route of support. The 5-star sustains after Luocha all dip into Harmony or Nihility territory, providing offensive value on top of doing the bare minimum for a sustain - making it so your team won't die. Something people don't acknowledge when talking about Luocha is that he's still incredibly good at his job. He feels a lot less precarious to play than Gallagher - who often lets people drop pretty low while building ult - he's incredibly SP positive, and he's super easy to pilot. Luocha's not been directly powercrept, no one heals as well as he does, but the outcome is the same - my team lives whether they've got Gallagher or Luocha as a sustain - so in a way they really do... But they have other stuff on top.

[@Havok.93]

Aventurine and Fu Xuan were the first two characters that I maxed out. I knew for sure I would have to be able to keep two teams alive for the game. The game doesn’t offer anything that can come even close to killing one of my characters.

[@pikachus0358]

Been stuck on aventurine for a while and the only 4 star i dont own is the beer wolf dude dont know how to type his name

[@zyrr1an]

I think they should add an endgame mode that incentivizes sustains to last longer and do more damage, like a boss that has a lot of hp but will increasingly get stronger and do more damage as the cycles/damage/turns go on.

[@notyouraveragedunce7643]

The main problem with EVERY sustain is that unless you got aventurine or fu xuan, game modes like swarm are almost impossible unless your character has self healing in their kit, since even the common enemies in those modes can punch you so hard it feels like you got backhanded irl, and for some reason they give the same enemies the ability to follow-up MULTIPLE TIMES after turning your previous character into a fuckin pancake, even then aventurine and fuxuan wont be able to keep f2p players alive bc they don’t have the signature light cone or any constellations, so unless your rocking 3 sustains an a GODLY yunli build f2p’s won’t be able to finish endgame content outside memory of chaos

[@nene2969]

I feel like bringing out a game mode that deals high dmg and nullifies enemy shields or something could work to bring our healers back. In the mean time I'm not complaining and my Aventurine is overworked :'D

[@user-hu8g7riy5v]

If the enemy can literally one shot your units (For example Gold and gear conundrum 12 with high disruption level), you would prefer shields over heal as it essentially doubles your health bar thus preventing you from getting oneshot. Other than that, I would argue that they are the same thing. Heals can keep you going forever as long as you don't die, shields can prevent oneshots but if they can break through the shield and damage you, you will eventually die.

[@phineas755]

8:23 The effect res trace is important and vital to his kit!

[@newdawn3457]

Another thing about aventurine is, when using his technique if you end up using it 5 times you’re guaranteed for the 60% def boost

[@weiyingloml]

the sae palace music during aventurine’s part 😭😭😭

[@JesseAnderson]

I'm not entirely convinced my Firefly is doing more damage than my Lingsha

[@Mezu14Khunnie]

I think if they release more Self-Buffing enemies that can be removed, Luocha's value will increase a bit. We only have those mara struck enemies as main example. 😔😔😔

[@anime_simp8279]

Hey, an Aven user here! (E3S1, on the road to E6S5!!!) As someone who's used him since release on most of my teams I can confidently say that, yes, he's genuinely insane. I also have him on all of my alternate accounts that are low level. E0 on all + no sig LC. Even with him having barely decent builds and not maxed out he's still crazy on them 😭🙏 love him so much he literally CARRIES.

[@ryuuraga1619]

I feel like the true issue about sustains now is how can they make better ones. The idea of healing or shielding or damage mitigating is honestly very stagnant and tight spaced that making sustains better is just like making a better support (Harmony/Nihility) unit that happens to give healing or shielding. How can they make better ones that can powercreep Aventurine or Lingsha or Huohuo.

[@LongNguyen-nh7ds]

Love the persona song on background😊😊

[@shii9470]

ever since i got aventurine, clearing content got so SO much easier. lingsha is an amazing experience. they're my only two sustain characters and i love them with everything i got lol

[@flying-ship]

You know what's more useless than Bailu? Her 5* light cone. And what's worse than her LC? *_FOUR copies of them_* !!!! 😭😭😭😭 Thank you, hsr gacha RNGsus, for blessing my account with E1S4 Bailu

[@ajergely6230]

same happened to me with yanqing. E1S4

[@SilverLight8098]

Bro Aventurine was my first limited five star character and I got his signature light cone too. I've been spoiled by this game for so long 💀

[@rawr7683]

great video! trying to get back into star rail after a long period of time is honestly so disheartening because not having any of the newer characters kinda bars you from trying endgame content (which sucks cuz rip to all the stellar jades you can't get).

[@Cpagan722]

Yeah… the powercreep is real

[@kajs867]

did we forget about FuXuan's CC resist buff? It has saved me so many times in PF and AS, she's my most favourite character to slot in a sustain role

[@HatsunPidgeon]

Well you forgot the fact that all shielded characters with Aventurine starts out with a 50% EFF RES so there's a good chance for effect resistance

[@HiroSui-S]

i understand what you say, like a shield its like a second hp bar, but that bar itself dont regen so if you get too many hits without the shield you just ☠ but it will take some time for sure

[@RainaAshlynne]

The can of fish that Lynx pops open is likely a reference to Surstromming, or pickled herrings, a Scandinavian food that is widely considered to be the worst-smelling food on the entire planet. I actually headcanon the fact that we never see anyone EAT the contents of that tin as them smelling it and deciding, "you know what? I'm not actually THAT badly hurt, thanks!"

[@1gniel]

We can see now, that "move on from the past and find a new # that speaks to you when you can. It's unfortunate but i dunno figure it out" applies to all characters in this game. Isn't that delightful? The game is showing it's designed in a way so you'd get a new character, play for a couple of months and then get a brand new one.

[@GreenKenneth-ww5bc]

3:55 with big gallagher coming in trying rid of the enemy and leaves for me pushing ngl 💀💀💀

[@josegamerakargbparamaisfps]

Aventurine enjoyer here, man i suck at DU but he is the most reliable sustain for every content, and i still suck at every end game sadly

[@veiluv_09]

Gallagher really helped me throughout the endgame. At my first impression on him, I was doubting that he will be THAT good as a 4 star until I used him as a superbreak sustainer for my Xueyi, and as expected he was doing wonderfully. It really made me change my mind about pulling for HuoHuo, but I still need to pull for her on my hypercarry Yunli team😅

[@Mone7Hero77]

Love the new format 👍🏿

[@elliscook9794]

What the game needs is the ability to use items in battle. But then we wouldn't need healers I guess. I never use any healing items in the game at all. Either I'm killing enemies before taking dmg, have shields or near an anchor to heal.

[@KristiNelon]

Also, i would argue that gallager is still slightly better than lingsha because gall is skill positive where ling is not. Ling might be a more number heavy healer, but gall is skill positive and can be built in many ways. Especially since unlike what the video says, galls heals do not scale with a stat. You dont have to build him off hp or break or anything else. So just load him with heal outgo plus and then stack whatever you want. He is almost a 5 star disguised as a 4.

[@isabella_elisa]

the reason why i still use luocha sometimes is because he is such an sp positiv healer