Dr. Ray Hagins - Racism In The Guise Of Religion pt. 1

[@purplesunflower7879]

This is deep! And so good to know! For years something wouldnt let me get into that bible! Im here on my journey for the truth on who we really are! ✊🏿

[@lastdays3148]

For Years something wouldn't let me get excited about Church. Now I am a Melanin aka Black Lady,so I had very few friends by choice. Because our Black people the majority of them loves Church. 2020 and I am finally done with Christianity and the Scriptures. Some of us are finally waken up from the lies🙋🏾‍♀️

[@marinoorobio]

I’m wit u 💯🤟🏾

[@chrislebese2060]

This man and others like Phil Valentine have brought us back from the dead. We love you guys. I would appreciate if you can also consider coming back to Mother land.

[@wmccree88]

My God Thank you Very much for your Teaching Mr. Hagins.. AWESOME 🙌🙌

[@barbarakerr3986]

Dr. Ray, 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️, your teaching continues to blow my mind, ❤️❤️❤️🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾, Ashay....

[@carltonmckally7081]

Getting rid of religion is destroying the fear of the superstitions of life and death.

[@reneebyrd7821]

Thank you for speaking the TRUTH.

[@phillipthomas9247]

Dr. Hagins, I've been waiting to hear you speak on this Coronavirus situation.

[@jamesstith2826]

Dr hagins is my spiritual teacher

[@joshuaguillory1315]

This is good! This is God :)

[@joshuaguillory1315]

The story of allegory

[@daericp3056]

I really wish my brotha here, comes to Miami and speak the truth to my lost ones. If I could have a mentor from your church teach me all your teaching. I would spread the world myself. I'm tired of seeing everyone I know look at my crazy becuase I come up with truthfull stories they never heard out. Ima show them in the end of the day because the facts are here and we as a people are not thinking naturally enough to realize.

[@Venom-ev5lh]

I understand the bible is hard to comprehend but you are only need to read the bible for the life lessons it teaches.

[@rbgcritic3336]

The question then, is would a divine creator really want to make it hard to comprehend it's true words??? The fact that the bible is so twistable is all the evidence you need that it is NOT DIVINE.

[@flikamos6211]

If Abraham, Isaac and Jacob didn't exist who is buried in the Cave of the Patriachs in Hebron?

[@rashidshahid9810]

have a conversation with the brothers on the streets , who use the bible; they stated they are real Hebrews Israelite talk with them

[@rbgcritic3336]

Would it really make sense to focus on a small group as opposed to the larger masses that are misled? Any religion based on some group believing they are "God's Chosen People" is wrong and illogical. That is the point of this video exposing how racist that mentality is.

[@supefoxworth6032]

they're who they are....and your leader is leading you to a promised death. He spoke from the bible....and literally proved nothing, and didn't read while doing it. he's worst than white jesus. His prize will be great.

[@mrmiykael]

@@supefoxworth6032 its sad that you say he is worse than a white jesus...yet you actually had the gull to say his prize is this white mans wrath. God never told you about a wrath. thats a european teaching that you perpetuate. Its sad that people like you are so quick to knock what you dont know. You wannabe isrealites and niggas always are quick to knock a woke brotha. But wouldnt dare walk into a white church and check them on the lie that they gave us in the first place.

[@SpeedyUsher]

@@mrmiykael PREACH!

[@garvey6302]

Anyone else think it's funny that the guy who basically has a church talks about how religion is manipulative? He gives lectures/sermons, they meet regularly/ like Christians on Sunday, they probably take up an offering, and he reads from the Bible. Hippocrisy

[@rbgcritic3336]

If you want HYPOCRISY, study the people that gave you the bible. European Christians didn't invent teaching. Long before there was a so called "church" or even a book (let alone a Bible), people have gathered in groups (congregations) as the speaker shares lessons, information, and tells stories just as Dr. Hagins does.

[@garvey6302]

@@rbgcritic3336 Thanks for responding. I'm not sure why everyone thinks white Europeans wrote the Bible when it was made by northern Africans and middle easterners and some Jews. But the Jews weren't all white either that's a myth. I'm not saying gathering in groups is 1st recorded in the Bible. I'm saying for someone who says Christianity is wrong he sure acts like a secular Christian pastor with his gatherings resembling a church and he even uses the Bible. It's ironic don't you think?

[@rbgcritic3336]

@@garvey6302 Dr. Hagins was a Christian bishop prior to his change in fundamental beliefs. He does indeed sound like a preacher because of his training. I personally believe that sometimes to reach people it is necessary to "speak their language" as Malcom X would say. The Bible is based on interpretation of ancient Greek manuscripts (codex) that are supposedly copies of lost originals. The original writers may well have been African men or women and it still would not make it's mythology factual. Regardless of authorship, it's the European Christians such as King James that rewrote these ideas into a weapon of propaganda and mind control that they use to justify their imperialism and pacify the oppressed. Thanks for your reply and input as well ✊🏾

[@garvey6302]

@@rbgcritic3336 I really appreciate this exchange. Thanks. From watching most if not all of Dr. Hagins videos I wouldn't call his beliefs "fundamental". The whole idea of a Christian Bishop in the way he uses it wasn't biblical. It's not the way he sounds that's hypocritical it's what he's doing. He is against religion but he does everything a pastor would do except live as a Christian and believe the truth of the Bible. He has a church basically and he preaches from the Bible. Oh the irony! Interesting what you said. You said the Bible came from Greek manuscripts but then said king James interpreted it wrongly. So would you agree that the Greek manuscripts are reliable? Anyway the truth is the Bible was written in Greek and Hebrew originally and to help others understand it it's been translated into other languages from Hebrew and Greek. The king James isn't the most accurate because the guy who interpreted it from the Greek and Hebrew only had a small number of older manuscripts to work from whereas those who came after him had a lot more manuscripts to work from and therefore more complete. They were all good and correct though. King James is ok but not as good as the English Standard Version (ESV) Bible. Yes people misuse the Bible but that doesn't make the religion mythology. It's based on history and it's claims are true no errors or contradictions. A lot of what Dr. Hagins says just isn't true. Either it's not in the Bible or it's a wrong Interpretation of the Bible. Like the sermon he preached above.

[@rbgcritic3336]

@@garvey6302 It seems your struggle is against the messenger, while mine is against the messages within the Bible. The Bible is not a history book and little if any of it can be confirmed with material evidence. It is not even a book, but a collection of books from various authors with dozens left out so that it can be confusing but appear sound and convincing as well as stand up to criticism. The Greeks and Romans are best known for their mythology aka lies, so no they are not trustworthy. These tales of men living inside whales or sleeping in lions dens, or building boats to house ALL the world's animals, or boys defeating giants with slingshots are little more than the DC/Marvel comics of years long gone by. Not only is it myth, it is poison that has lead to the destruction and mayhem done in my African motherland and the world over. I am not a blind follower of any man/woman etc, but Dr. Hagins is not the source of the problem. He is a part of the solution.

[@supefoxworth6032]

I was really into this, until I read it for my self in its ENTIRETY!!! All praises to the MOST HIGH ELOHIEM!!! If you read carefully the entire chapter!!! it doesn't say abraham was an allegory.!!!!...that's why you read in context and in precepts!!! It says the story of the bond woman and free woman are allegories and that in fact this story about them is about TWO covenants!!! It says it in plane site!!

[@rbgcritic3336]

You can read and read and read from front to back and you will only become more lost until you stop reading and start thinking for yourself. The entire bible is allegory and stories of claims of covenants aka testaments. If you were really "into this" that means some part of you is trying to awaken so keep watching, keep fighting and don't drown that voice of liberation out.

[@supefoxworth6032]

@@rbgcritic3336 lmfao...that sounds good. However I literally watched a guy.. who indeed, first sounded interesting. Watched one of his videos on politics prior to this, it was excellent work. but I quickly noticed his foolish, incompetent and incomplete attempts to discredit a scripture that was clear the moment I read it. Go read it! Come back and tell me why he lied to them black folks. i mean damn (religion) aside ...he literally read a scripture and twisted it right before your very eyes and then made an entire speaking engagement based on it!!....I dont know about you but I dont do people who lie to prove a point. He did all that hollering... meanwhile not one damn person opened the book to read for themselves. You want to hide somehting from a nigga-put it in a book!!! I an't never heard someone say "stop reading" and think for yourself....when the VERY objective to thinking for YOURSELF is to READ!!! To obtain the information to think for yourself.... your not to bright huh?? That's exactly what I did!!! I thought for myself....when I seen this nigga lie....YOU dont need to think for yourself....its obviously dangerous.... get like me....everything in truth and in knowledge. Simple.

[@rbgcritic3336]

Thinking for yourself has nothing to do with reading what someone else has written, it means put the shit down and ask yourself if the concept even makes sense to you. For example: If "God" wants you to know of her/his existence and desires, why is a book written by man the only source available, instead of direct contact? Wouldn't that be easier and less prone to misunderstanding? Anyway, how about you provide this scripture that you claim he twisted to mislead "them black folks" instead of rambling about how quickly you got it, since you're obviously so much more intelligent and competent than us idiots.

[@supefoxworth6032]

@@rbgcritic3336 who did I refer to as a nigga? What man??? What's wrong with you?? or was that a WELL known historical proverb ??? Anyone who reads that will tell you the same...why didn't you know that? This isnt personal fam, this is critical... furthermore..why are you here if you dont know what scripture he is reading from?? the topic of my post! did you watch the video? Why in the hell do I have to show you!! Go look and learn! Weather you agree or not, you dont even know do you? because you decided to respond to my post without doing any research, reading or watching,...its right UP HER, at the very top of this thread, press the play button.. the (video)!! You're literally just typing words... you're spending so much time telling me to think and keep on reading and unfortunately you decided to do neither one, judging by the content of your response. you couldn't comprehend my words or mabey you didn't understand, just say that. But you couldn't have read it in its context. That shows your lack of cirictical thinking and basic cognitive skills. You're probably an agent. I know exactly how yall work and infratrate...I do not argue or negotiate with the foolish homebody.....refuse.

[@rbgcritic3336]

The odds I'd ever be an agent are forever less than zero, but your reactionary tone does make me suspicious of you. I will ask you to excuse the misread of your "hide it in a book" cliche, reading block text on a cellphone can lead to mistakes which I am not too high to admit. Since you brought it up, agents and reactionaries tend to make bold statements to gain attention or sway emotions, I will only deal in facts so if you intend to serve a purpose other than misleading or sidetracking, be willing to defend your bold claims. Perhaps if you wrote in the correct tense I would know you meant some of the scriptures in this current video not something you saw in the past. Anyway, as Dr. Hagins points out: Deut 7 1-8 KJV tells of how "god" was ordering a selected people to utterly destroy and cast out different people/nations from their native lands. The reason given is because "god" chose that specific group of people to be "special" and "holy"... ABOVE ALL PEOPLE that are upon the Earth... If you are so dumb and brainwashed as to not realize the racist hatred that such a concept leads to... YOU are lost and I have no time to waste arguing with arrogant fools. (FYI regardless if those "chosen" people are white, black, brown, etc or Hebrew Israelites, Jehovah Witnesses, Muslim or whatever. When you put the shit down and THINK for yourself, you can realize that it's WRONG and has lead to much of the evil throughout history and in the world today)

[@hj925]

Racism in the guise of criticising religion - and more recent devastating wars have no religious context at all - WW1. WW2, Korea, Vietnam. Cambodia, etc etc Historically inaccurate and grossly bias Bro

[@Matira269]

Does that negate the fact that for much of human history this is the case? Does that eliminate genocide in the Bible. Does that negate the fact that colonialism, slave trade, segregation, apartheid, and even the genocide of the Jews found their underpinning in Judeo-Christianity? Does that explain away how while gazing on Jesus, indigenous people all over the world were wiped out, by those who used the Bible as their guide? Does that eliminate the fact that the people who were willing to die to defend the maintenance of slavery with war are the ones who talk about the Bible the most? Did not Martin Luther, the father of the protestant reformation, not write the manifesto that Hitler used a few hundred years later in eliminating millions of Jews. Did not these toxic ideas originate in the Bible? If you do not see the promotion as supremacy in the Bible, you are blind.

[@hj925]

@@Matira269 Ah, an exaggerated and bias interpretation of events. It's clear that nothing would be likely to shift your direction, but I feel obliged to mention that slavery and every single other thing you attack has been practiced by all ethnicities and nations at one time or another and long predates the influences you invent/exaggerate and seek to blame in terms of the Bible. Also, you clearly do not speak of what you know, whatever that may because there is no validation of genocide in the form you claim in the Bible, not in any sense. You seem to have an unhinged view of history and the Bible, certainly of the God of the Bible. Rather than looking at these things in a wider historical context and see the spread of these horrors and the benefits that did come from missionary work, you just want to blame whitey and religion although the evil came long before due to human nature and practice - where did those slaves come from? People like you won't follow the trail far. Your problem is that your views are not accurate or fair and anyone who knows real history sees you for what you are. I would never give anyone like Luther a pass, but he'll be judged as we will be, including you, so let's hope that you are judging him and others with the same measures that you are prepared to be judged for yourself eh