Dr. Rhonda Patrick on Vaccine Misinformation and Long-haul Covid

[@lieutenantcolumbo114]

I've noticed the more I avoid cable news and social media the more normal things are.

[@DannyPauling]

Perfectly said. I’m over this crap and the reason many people aren’t is because they buy into the narratives that the media is pushing.

[@TheRegimeWithYenny]

I deactivated my Facebook, it helped my daily mental health

[@kenwood2682]

The more braincells you get

[@TheRegimeWithYenny]

@sneksnekitsasnek bliss until smacked in the face

[@babyree2901]

Because you have more of a chance to see what’s going on in the world for yourself instead of being told information from a biased source.

[@Kiko-ud5td]

She should be brought back now to discuss it all over it again!

[@andrewvice4065]

She'll just say the data changed like fauci she's another puppet

[@jaishankarsaran9497]

This is really sad and disturbing Specially, Young and physically fit persons dying from heart attack. Even many have no severe medical condition and the number of these incidents are increasing. This should be studied seriously, why is this happening? If vaccines spiked these number then what is needed to be done to save rest of the people. Some Organisations must investigate and collect data about it. Take care everyone

[@FoolishLearner]

​@@jaishankarsaran9497 You, too.

[@non9886]

she was wrong on all of them...

[@Paul-un2bj]

​@@jaishankarsaran9497 lot of young fit and healthy people dying lately

[@LOSTGPS]

DR: Every 30 seconds someone dies from cardiovascular disease Krispy Kreme donuts: we will give everyone two free donuts for getting vaccinated

[@Demon_DC]

😂

[@davecolvin7969]

🤣🤣

[@bereal2366]

I spilled my freaking tea all over my keyboard 🤣

[@TrollFalcon]

Facts

[@MarmaladeSally]

You can’t give someone else cardiovascular disease though. Seems like an obvious difference.

[@koncaswatch8726]

I'm watching this a year after the posting (2023). Every "misinformation" she brought up is now a reality. The amazing part is that they were realities at the time of her interview. Thank god I thought for myself on this issue. The horrors of the mrna experiment are worse than any conspiracy theorist's imagination.

[@alopam]

Was thinking the same thing. Nearly everything she states as "fact" has since been thoroughly debunked and almost everything she calls "dangerous misinformation" has been proven right. "Funniest" part is most of those "misinformation" bits were started back in 2020 as "facts" and "warnings" promoted by Fauci and his peers to prevent the vaccines from being released under Trump admin. As soon as the new admin came in, all warnings were cast aside and everything previously deemed dangerous was re-categorized as safe and effective.

[@damonejohnson6098]

Man oh man YOU SAID 💯

[@damonejohnson6098]

It's DEFINITELY TIME JOE HAVE HER BACK ON THE SHOW! AND PRESS THE SHlT OUT OF THE BEAST!

[@Zenith6000]

Escape the Matrix

[@OceanFrontVilla3]

I WAS JUST GOING TO STATE THE VERY SAME!!

[@5dollarshake263]

On one hand they say "Yes you must take this vaccine if you want to maintain all your freedoms" and on the other hand "No, absolutely you cannot sue or hold vaccine companies liable if you suffer a vaccine injury".

[@rsanchez9865]

Right on point

[@budc.8172]

My older sister had a bad stroke weeks after receiving her mRNA vaccine and the doctors are like "Well at least you didn't get covid with a 99.98% survival rate".

[@jessijaybird7548]

And if they covered their ass b4 releasing this vaccine that jus tells me that these companies knew ppl wud have adverse reactions....if they knew the vaccine was safe then y wud they take steps to make sure the weren't held liable or responsible for dangerous side effects ppl wud have after getting the shot????

[@cricket12ish]

Thank you my friend no one is highlighting this. It's ironic how a these companies creating there own immunity to this. But it's Business as usual

[@afrosamuri05]

Well the government is giving the people the carrot or the stick option but really it's a catch 22.

[@werd196]

I feel like for someone who came into as “I really need to address this misinformation about vaccines” she did not do a very good job convincing me that everything she said was “misinformation” actually was”

[@kellyryanobrien1]

That’s the gift 🎁

[@coocoocoo5742]

She certainly didn't help the mainstream narrative at all in this disastrous (for her) clip. LMAO

[@Inoashooter]

Joe didn’t even let her talk lmao, he kept interrupting with his questions

[@wcw7813]

This clip of Joe’s guest saying that the new studio sucks is hilarious! kzbin.info/www/bejne/l32Vq6OhpbysmKM

[@itstimeforlee]

Facts don't care about your feelings.

[@pigs6486]

“Fully vaccinated” ain’t a thing when you need a new jab every 4 months because it wears off.

[@youngw.a.r2709]

It's because vaccines that dont kill the virus are counter productive because they create an environment for it to mutate and become more potent. The previous vaccine has no effect on the newly mutated virus which is why they are encouraging "booster" shots. Anybody with any education knows the people being vaccinated are actually creating an environment for the virus to mutate and become stronger. Once again a vaccine that does not kill the virus is counter productive in a large population.

[@ancientbear3280]

Looks like big Pharma hit the jackpot. Odd that.

[@HarambeKojima]

@@ancientbear3280 well, the money is in the treatment, not the solution.

[@thephilosopher7173]

Just remember if you feel bad, just stay home. Thats what the doctors, that still had their job for not speaking out, told us to do. Yea because claiming this is deadly and telling ppl to stay home when they feel sick is the logical thing.

[@o0EggMan]

@Jabroni .LifestyleI think you misread his comment dolt.

[@EUC-NYC-GUY]

Dr. Patrick: I’m here to set the record straight. Joe Rogan: Ok, what are the facts? Dr. Patrick: I don’t know.

[@jessicadecker5213]

Lolololol exactly!

[@gummo3873]

This lady just proved one thing and one thing only.... that she can regurgitate Talkng points that she sees on Cable News channels. Nothing else.

[@RobertSmith-xl2lc]

Rhonda is yet another Dr Parrot.

[@barry1362]

Thats hilarious, she's in the room , so must be real, what's the facts , I don't know 😕 why is she even talking ffs

[@RobertSmith-xl2lc]

@@barry1362 Dr. Rhonda Waffle.

[@CUTS67]

"The forest was shrinking, but the trees kept voting for the axe, for the axe was clever and convinced the trees that because his handle was made of wood, he was one of them".

[@HearSheSays]

Wise

[@23Butandione]

You almost got it, just rework the quote a little bit more. Pretty good

[@krs2717]

Ohh that’s good, who said that?

[@23Butandione]

@@krs2717 I thought he made it up but I guess it's an old turkish proverb

[@clarkchapin3068]

Said Paul Bunyan on shrooms

[@CodyBlu28]

“It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” -Mark Twain

[@Rotyoto]

Word

[@Ruslan-x7i]

That's true

[@yudeo9782]

True >50% in US had vaccinated

[@Ettrix]

I guess you just gotta FOOL them that they have been fooled, instead of convince.

[@Alex-ti8lv]

Agree! it will be hard for anyone now to convince people take vaccine, as it was all about making it a political weapon. I think in the beginning people were like "oh no, they will make vaccine when its gonna be too late!", and now people are "naah, I won't take it" People just don't know what they need till told so

[@SoloStark]

Okay but did she actually address any of the “misinformation” on the podcast?

[@fsmfsm9941]

yeah. none of the misconceptions that are out there are true. she says so in the beginning.

[@nothankyoutube]

He didn't give her a chance to.

[@nn647]

@@nothankyoutube true that. Joe would just doubt literally everything she said and be completely skeptical about everything that didnt fit his narrative (which was literally everything she said.)

[@md5820]

@@nothankyoutube didn't give her chance to say "I don't know"

[@jimmer1047]

I believe she added greatly to the disinformation.

[@edoardoronconi6328]

Literally eveything she argued against turned out to be true

[@Nick-yl8qw]

Vaccines caused infertility? Must have missed that one

[@oliverbird6914]

We don't know yet. But the rest are true. So what's your fucking point

[@darkyknight9788]

Like what? Or do you just like saying empty statements?

[@Jlainez602]

Actually no Rogan was wrong she was absolutely right.

[@Scepticalasfuk]

@@Jlainez602 The vaccine is safe and effective.

[@DRHtheKing]

I guess it’s better for an expert to be honest and say “I don’t know”, rather than them lying in a public domain to make themselves look smart.

[@lucy9877]

Have you seen the video Elon Musk meets Post Malone It’s hilarious!! 👽 😂

[@davidjackowski4336]

I have alot of respect for her for this exact reason.

[@MartinZeme]

Yeah because nobody knows everything. That is literally what science is about. We don't know everything, so we try and figure it out. You Rogan lot just act like some anti establishment know it all's.

[@coltspacers2065]

Thats the thing, no one knows anything about this vaccine...so everyone whos pushing it calling it safe, they dont know the side effects or long term effects of taking it.

[@DRHtheKing]

@@coltspacers2065 im sorry but id rather have the vaccine and risk those “side effects” over getting Covid again. I’ve been vaccinated and im perfectly healthy. I recommend trusting science over vaccine hesitancy.

[@jamfountain8702]

Imagine if there was a push for balanced diet, exercise, stress reduction methods as strong as the poke!

[@jasonkilley]

What if I told you doing all of that would help your chances of surviving covid

[@diesirae6780]

There's no money or control in that so it's right out.

[@Error-7-0-7]

@@jasonkilley false. I'm obese. Eat like shit and do no exercise. I got covid and I only had a fever for like a day.

[@beautifulcrazy]

Yeah, I would comply with that.....but you see McDonald's and millions of other food businesses would go out of business

[@somedogsarecops2354]

People can't be bothered to go to CVS or Walgreens for a free vaccine, you think they have enough responsibility and discipline for diet and exercise? Not in America.

[@fightfamilybuffalo]

If they are “safe enough” then lift all of the Prep Act regulations that protect vax manufacturers from lawsuits. And any business or government agency that requires or coerces them should be held liable to tort law for any damages done.

[@sgknine09]

Agreed but won't happen...none of these people controlling this narrative will be held accountable

[@moonstrukk126]

Yes...yes yes YESSSSS

[@Gen7486]

Amen

[@jamesperrie1393]

Spot on. Continues FOI requests in the UK for the full list of ingredients both Active and Non Active have been denied. Don’t know about America but in the UK it is against the law to withhold the Active ingredient in a drug when anyone asks.

[@deanhendry7485]

💯👏

[@PeteMD]

Looking back it ends up Rhonda was wrong about pretty much everything. Our medical and scientific establishment has failed, and if you put too much trust into it, relied solely on them, like Patrick, then you failed too

[@Leo-ic5ll]

She is full of crap.

[@mensroompodcast]

Yeah I love Rhonda but she was completely wrong about everything. She didn’t have a single clue

[@Jonny-eu7le]

It blows my mind how these doctors automatically think they know everything.

[@larahuffmaster5857]

Yep

[@AeonCatalyst]

@PD, in what way was she wrong about anything she said? I haven't found any evidence that this didn't age well.

[@barryheffner8904]

Phizer needs to get a refund for this interview, she blew it

[@theodddish1846]

😂😂😂😂

[@prinzjay1640]

Corporate fucked up lol

[@superchanneljim]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@holybooksaredumb694]

Rhonda is not corporate. She's just treading litely and being honest when she says she doesn't know

[@russhyn]

Lol

[@mikefischer3979]

Anyone that knows Joe knows that he stays calm in an argument but you can tell he’s heavily disagreeing with her.

[@Haiko.beenwithit]

@More Grey okay buddy whatever you say

[@k7l3rworkman97]

She’s got the Face of “I’m full of shit but they pay me for it”

[@luposyd29]

@More Grey Pretty sure the "meatball" had to correct the "Dr" on more than one occasion and knew the percentages of myocarditis caused from the vaccine or from covid better than his guest. If we are still putting our faith in Doctors who clearly have an agenda to keep the narrative going, on a virus that was created BY THEM we are truly in trouble.

[@gergsbane]

@More Grey Being a doctor does not mean that much, they are not researchers.

[@luposyd29]

@More Grey Anyone can look stuff up on the internet is like saying anyone can read a book. Information is information no matter where it comes from and he seemed to understand a lot of it. I didn't hear the meatball say "I don't know" over and over again, but she did when pressed to back up her claims. Look, if you talk about long haul covid effects you need to acknowledge that there could be long haul vaccine effects, truth is no one knows for sure. All I know this, that covid has a 99.7% recovery rate from most individuals and if I weigh the risks of taking the vaccine with all its known side effects I will take my chances without the vaccine.

[@bigoogie3737]

I just keep seeing this over and over again: people like Dr. Patrick say "oh these notions going around are wrong, it's misinformation." Then when asked any questions, provided counter evidence, the response "oh, well I don't know." So obviously you're not investigating these claims at all, just immediately dismiss it. It's just really disconcerting.

[@pdiddly4040]

yeah dawg it's called science, professionalism, and not speaking outside the scope of your expertise so you don't add to the rampant misinformation. Ya dig?

[@kraut39]

She never got to any of the issues because Joe was picking apart everything. but ive also not seen all of the video

[@NotAnnaJones]

Agreed. It’s a refusal to look at the truth.

[@pdiddly4040]

@@kraut39 Joe stopped to ask semi coherent questions about topics that have been thoroughly debunked or outright dismissed as counter points over and over mentioning one or two lines of bullshit he thinks are the most solid arguments. He looked like a ill informed, argumentative, ignorant buffoon in front of the ACTUAL fucking PHD graduate from a relevant field. And everytime she didn't know something because it was outside the scope of her research or direct field of study she actually said, "I don't know" which is the ethical and correct thing to do. Unlike this fucking ape spouting bullshit about "comorbidity this and comorbidity that" like your aunt on facebook who once read a post about horse de wormer working on covid and is not in the fucking hospital but swears it's working. Get a grip.

[@HonorarySaiyan]

@@pdiddly4040 Then why does she first dismiss all the concerns people have?

[@billpowley5882]

We need an update with this doctor. Love to hear what she has to say now. Godspeed

[@jaishankarsaran9497]

This is really sad and disturbing Specially, Young and physically fit persons dying from heart attack. Even many have no severe medical condition and the number of these incidents are increasing. This should be studied seriously, why is this happening? If vaccines spiked these number then what is needed to be done to save rest of the people. Some Organisations must investigate and collect data about it. Take care everyone

[@adventuresofmrman8116]

@@jaishankarsaran9497 Voldemort

[@orakelgottes]

you are being fooled by her .. there is no such as long haul covid symptoms, they just want to find excuse of side effects of the jabs

[@JdWinter-mu9ov]

​@@adventuresofmrman8116my gun

[@bali_purusha]

She: I'm a doctor, I'm qualified to call out misinformation on Covid. Joe: what can you tell us? She: I don't know

[@dannyboy8474]

When did Bary Weiss become a COVID expert?!?!?!

[@aidendon4127]

Saying you don't know is intellectually honest.

[@derrick7384]

She’s a great expert of not knowing anything

[@TGIM]

That's how science works, you answer questions you know the answers to, unlike these talking heads that know everything about everything. She gives facts and he comes back with more questions like "Did they check those people's diet?" Which is fair, but she won't know the answer on the spot.

[@abstractnonsense3253]

Joe was asking very specific granular questions with difficult or undetermined answers. A responsible scientist should say "I don't know" instead of BSing or, worse, demand others obey to her pronouncements.

[@stopreset313]

Shoutout to Dr. Patrick for just saying "I don't know" a hundred times instead of using her degrees to present herself as an authority on the topic and push her position.

[@eoinmcdonnell8629]

Yeah, she really should have just made up some make-believe BS to any loaded questions she was unsure about like Dr. Joe Sauna Rogan does.

[@jillmarie180]

ALL Hot Air Rhonda ~ she lost me this time, Joe.

[@DrewMaw]

Because doctors when pressed for info dont actually know anything, they’re just regurgitating info they’re taught. Sad sheep.

[@himagain4274]

Facts

[@Sokofeather]

Embodied education like the experience of working with patients for years is a powerful knowledge base, but having been through college, I wouldn't rely on a person's mere rote memory of studied facts, this sort of info. And 99.9% of that information wouldn't be specifically germane to what we're asking questions about. We ought to be listening to virologists and the doctors who created the medicines, therapies, and tests. But several of those individuals are telling us there is a massive abuse being committed using their tools.

[@jayh.8676]

She seemed really confident when she first started.

[@BD-pp7un]

She’s a geebag so she is

[@SavageMontreal]

Ignorant people usually are confident... until someone questions them and reveals how little they know.

[@Omar_313_]

Still more confident than antivaxers

[@suedenim6590]

A vaccine is giving someone an attenuated weakened pathogen this has simply been called a vaccine to placate the stupid

[@viriathus2802]

tRuSt ThE sCiEnCe

[@AB-1023]

Rhonda Patrick helped me understand a lot about stomach bacteria. Speaking up about COVID was not the best professional decision

[@ptf55]

Well said.

[@boebrotick208]

microbiome

[@boebrotick208]

microbiome gut microbiome microbiome

[@boebrotick208]

microbiome

[@boebrotick208]

microbes in the microbiome

[@nicoh848]

Some people seem to need a reminder that admitting when you don’t know something isn’t a weakness.

[@poom641]

Science and medical things have lots of faults, the biggest one is that many of it's practitioners & supporters think it doesn't .

[@FirstLast-il6ok]

It is when you are making factual claims but saying you don’t know about foundations of that claim

[@nav579]

Amen. I wish Joe Rogan would realize that. He constantly speaks on subjects he knows nothing about. Constantly.

[@Nekrumorfiini1]

Yes, experts pretend like they can do no wrong and people believe it.

[@chuang543]

The issue is she is the one that wanted to talk about it and bring it up yet she has no answers to specific questions. I have no problem with people admitting they don't know, but if they want to address something to clear things up yet have no answers...that is an issue.

[@Simple.Wordless]

She addresses the misinformation with “I don’t know.”

[@joseg93ify]

😂😂😂

[@nnguy0398]

Rather get someone who is honest with her expert opinion than someone who scrolls through their Facebook timeline from conspiracy theorist 🤷‍♂️

[@otundetchagala9560]

@@n8w35tw.7 Even if Alex Jones is making ALL of it up, you're safer taking his word as opposed to hers.

[@Astro-ck6mh]

If you admit not knowing something rather than repeating bullshit your hear here and there, then you ARE helping to fight misinformation.

[@wtf1231122]

A.k.a i know its bullshit

[@williambroer64]

Joe, When are you going to get two experts on this subject with opposing views to debate? It would be a good PPV.

[@BD-lq4id]

He's tried that before and has said he doesn't like the format because people usually suck at debate and it devolves into arguments that go in circles.

[@frankyhonnolus5528]

There is no point bringing in 🐔🐔🐔 into the debate. There is no debate lol

[@williambroer64]

@@BD-lq4id I agree, That's why he should have a expert in the field moderator there who agrees to be unbiased and just call them out when they are wrong and present the facts to that person.

[@stevenburton4966]

in this corner we have an expert on math who says 7 is bigger than 4. and on this side we have an expert in being really bad at math who says 4 is actually bigger than 7. stay tuned to find out if facts and data are just, not. if they just... aren't.

[@brendanjohnston6404]

Please be the only one to do this

[@craigheide3573]

Wow, looking back on what she was saying then, she was the missinformation spreader. Meocarditus is now known to be 1 in 5000 (or more) for the mRNA injections. The heart is scared from such events. Why would anyone do this to infinitely small risk from covid youngsters.

[@Cryptum404]

She’s not a real doctor

[@teokl6150]

She didn't know the age gradient. Myocarditis after covid is more common in older people, while myocarditis after mRNA vaccination is more common in younger people. Also, when she says that everyone will either get infected or vaccinated ... (1) vaccination cannot prevent infection since Delta, and (2) if you've already been infected, the risk-benefit of vaccination is vastly different: marginal benefit and increased risks. There has been NO accurate risk-benefit analysis among young, covid-recovered individuals.

[@sabersage21]

Anyone that calls mRNA gene therapy a "vaccine" I don't trust a word

[@Seethi_C]

So 1 in 5,000 is considered too high of a risk to you? But the covid death rate of 1 in 400 doesn’t bother you?

[@teokl6150]

@@Seethi_C The death rate is 1 in 400 hospitalisations, but hospitalisations are about 1 in 1000 infections and severity is highly predictable (>99% are either elderly, obese, or have multiple comorbidities / are immunocompromised). I've worked in covid wards.

[@thebird135]

The reason this interview is so important, is because Joe has her on a bunch and really likes her. But he really pushed back at her on this. For that, I stand and clap.

[@darthsadic]

A fucking comedian who gets his facts from the internet and has said on his podcast that he is dumb, pushes back on a real doctor.

[@parkermartin9910]

@@darthsadic Why are you listening to him then? Joe Rogan is probably way smarter than you. F outta here.

[@darthsadic]

​@@parkermartin9910 triggered you that easy? I listen to him because I like his podcasts, but I understand that he is just a fucking comedian, nothing more. I don't like it when he pushes back on people who are way more prepared than him.

[@PacoRV]

@@darthsadic The "way more prepared doctor" couldn't answer simple questions from a "fucking comedian".

[@LOSTGPS]

The fact that she doesn’t know if health and nutrition plays a part in a persons reaction to the virus is crazy, she sounds foolish, whoever paid her to promote the vaccine needs to get a refund

[@mysteriousman3613]

I’m wondering why nobody talks about covid survivors…

[@tantalus3881]

No one makes money off of em

[@JinxMarie1985]

I'm wondering the same... Id like to see a few covid survivors on here talking about their experiences

[@ljj9494]

Because if your goal is to scare people. It makes more sense to inflate numbers and to talk about the 30k that died from COVID vs the tens of millions that caught it and survived.

[@rodrigoelizondo573]

I just got covid and i think it's pretty funny you call them "survivors" the death rate is 1% lol. I'm not vaccinated btw and i only had fever for about 4 days.

[@unluckytourist]

Same reason the news reports car crashes, not the people who drove to work without incident that day?

[@para001]

Joe has become an insanely clever interviewer

[@torlekstyle3989]

Somebody has to do the "journalism" - since actual journalists will not.

[@shaunmcevoy8057]

😂😂😂 thinking Joe is clever, fuck me man. The world is doomed if the comments under this video are anything to go by

[@LaughingGasFunny]

Always has been.

[@LaughingGasFunny]

@@shaunmcevoy8057 yet you’re here, under his comment section, of his very successful podcast. What does that say about you?

[@galahad2451]

@@shaunmcevoy8057 Imagine my surprise that you are subscribed to a lot of breadliners.

[@michaelburch2702]

And this was the last time I ever took her seriously 😂

[@kyle-mb1ij]

“Be afraid. Be very afraid” -Rhonda “About what” - Joe “I don’t know” - Rhonda

[@sevans606]

Covid-22

[@samson7294]

You see, that’s the difference. Joe will say whatever stupid shit comes to mind. She’s actually trying to be responsible.

[@Ulexcool]

@@samson7294So... knowing nothing about a subject makes you "trying to be responsible"? This is a joke right?

[@marcuse9030]

@@samson7294 Joe was the one asking questions, she was the one making definitive statements based on incomplete information.

[@localkauf]

@@Ulexcool well she doesn't "know nothing". She just doesn't know the answer to literally every question about covid-19, bit if you take off your coping glasses for 2 secs, you'll notice that she made some pretty concrete statements, showing that the large majority of evidence supports getting the vaccine

[@PremiumsPage]

This lady said she wanted to prove those 8 things wrong, then proceeded to say "I dont know" when questioned & presented no numbers or data to back up ANYTHING she said.

[@vendeta9393]

damn Joe really pushed her into "" I don't know"" corner

[@DrJonathanRoss]

Instead of listening to her eight points, he asked her questions that weren't germane to them. He made his "exceptions" sound more important than her data, and her helpful points were interrupted, and to this crowd, lost.

[@Alarik52]

Ignorance is the great bridge between us all, as it's something we ALL share. Too many are more interested in circulated rumor, than in demonstrable repeatable knowledge. Granted, rumors take no time, real knowledge takes time.

[@jamesperrie1393]

He didn’t need to push her very hard because she hadn’t a clue what she was talking about. Anything bad happens it’s Covid Anything Vaccine, oh well people get that all the time even before the Jab.

[@gpulis]

I wouldn't even say pushed. And damn did she even read the studies she's citing? Because control information is very clearly stated in valid studies.

[@chris2884]

And these are the “health professionals”. That are pushing all this vaccine bullshit.

[@hhour2096]

This aged like milk

[@derrickmcadoo3804]

*Wine

[@jordaneglis7380]

😂

[@AbDe-k1j]

Not a single NOT vaccinated person who regret their choice.

[@dan2569]

I developed pericarditis after the astrazeneca vaccine. This is supposedly rare. I'm still suffering from it 8 weeks later. Side effects are very real.

[@Burning_Babylon]

Speak up and do it fearlessly.

[@blackfootcheyenne860]

Shhhh- no, you really didn’t have that.

[@DartanyonPurdy]

I believe I have heart conditions since my vaccine in march

[@mv8908]

I was anti vaccine I got the vaccine and didn't get any symptoms. The thing with viruses is that they are incredibly sneaky and complex. Is just no that easy.

[@sylvan4094]

@@mv8908 I haven't had covid. I only had the vaccine and I am still injured from it over 4 months later. I can be walking around my house and my heart rate can just jump to 170bpm.

[@mistyhermiz6233]

I’m a Chicago area ER nurse and NOBODY submits to VAERS. We are not instructed to or educated on it. I’ve worked in 4 ERs and I’ve never seen anyone do it or have been instructed to fill it out.

[@darrenstettner5381]

What is VAERS? In your personal experience, as a nurse in an ER, do you think Covid is as scary as it’s being portrayed? Do you think the vaccine should be strongly encouraged?

[@bernarddoherty2303]

Hey Darren VAERS is a vaccine adverse effect response system. I think that might be the anagram? I believe there are a few thousand claims of adverse reactions to the vaccine out of millions of doses.

[@StfuSiriusly]

@@darrenstettner5381 I was working at a major hospital in NYC when covid first happened. We had tractor trailers outside to hold all the bodies. It can be very scary for a lot of people.

[@darrenstettner5381]

@@StfuSiriusly okay. Did the tractor trailers actually get filled up with bodies or were they mostly a precautionary measure? I remember that in the beginning everyone expected things to be much much worse. People stocked up on lots of contingency stuff but my understanding is that most of it turned out to be unnecessary. For example, the world did not end up running out of toilet paper. Personally, I don’t actually know even a single person that has had serious problems with covid. Both my parents got it which was pretty scary but they were both fine. I don’t think I even know anyone that knows anyone that has died of Covid. All the stories I hear are about friends of my friends friends. Though I’m also just one person and I have not been very social in a couple years. That’s why I’m curious to know what the experiences of actual hospital workers have been. And not the ones the media gives the spotlight to. I want to talk to random people that don’t have any apparent agenda. Thank you for the info.

[@StfuSiriusly]

@@darrenstettner5381 no they actually were filled with bodies. Our ICUs were completely maxed out. It was terrifying I had to help turn these patients over that were intubated because they were literally drowning in they own fluids. This shit is not a joke. Its not as bad in nyc anymore. The only people in the ICU now are usually unvaxxed and unhealthy people.

[@danielglassmeyer1381]

Remember when Joe loved learning things from Dr. Rhonda Patrick? Probably won’t see her on his show ever again.

[@Robdobalina]

She seems to be rather nervous in this clip 🤔

[@adriennem3168]

He has plenty of flawed peopled on and will again.

[@nuclearwinter391]

Yeah, he got her on a topic he interviewed real experts on. Now he probably questions also her nutritional advise. I do.

[@task82]

I was pretty disappointed to hear him talk over Dr Rhonda and to interrupt her from getting to her point. Joe's bias really took over in this clip.

[@michaelshearer3559]

lol

[@lindabelcher8087]

She's great at memorizing text & obeying what she's told without question🙃

[@-astrangerontheinternet6687]

1:06 Indeed

[@J3R3MI6]

She’s definitely a liar… she tried to weasel her way out of it.

[@jencrews]

This is a perfect example of how to ask questions of someone you disagree with rather than try to convince them.

[@cowlords13]

YES! so good.

[@jencrews]

@I C She seems legit scared of COVID to me.

[@blueberrywalrus]

@I C VAERS is very clear about the fact that reports of adverse events do not imply a causative link to the vaccine. If you have a strong opinion on this issue, spend some time reviewing the VAERS reports, and try to understand the statistical implications of the data. Even if the vaccines have directly killed 45000 Americans, that's out of 180 million vaccinated. That would be roughly 0.025% mortality based on your numbers, which would be way lower if you look at deaths in the 20-60 age range. This actually makes a strong case for the safety of the vaccines relative to Covid. I am not going to blindly support either point of view. There have been large scale unintended consequences from trying to address issues throughout history. We have every reason to be cautious, but I have not seen any convincing evidence so far that vaccination is more harmful than Covid.

[@waylander7777]

@I C keep hearing these claimed CDC figures only to find either nothing or horrendous misquoting and statistical cherry picking - not saying what has been quoted. Its fucking tiring tbh. People, selling agendas aren't too concerned with empirical accuracy.

[@IncredibleIceCastle]

@I C you can’t talk about the benefits of D3 without being anti-science and ignorant about how the human immune system works?

[@damsonemusic5125]

Joe you should get two absolute experts on the topic from both sides of the argument to have an open discussion between each other regarding the topic of the vaccines, and whether they are the best option

[@rajnair5667]

Are there any credible scientists that are against the vaccine?

[@pkramer962]

That would not create an equal discussion. If there are 10000 people for something and one person against it, putting one from each side together creates a huge advantage for the person against it.

[@rajnair5667]

@@pkramer962 facts!!

[@rajnair5667]

@@nikhilnewse3318 wrong “French virologist Luc Montagnier has previously made some questionable medical claims, however there is no evidence of him saying all COVID-19 vaccinated people will die within two years.” Again that’s the opinion of one versus thousands.

[@tripp8833]

That’s dumb. Vast majority doctors believe in the vaccine. Only dumbass/crazy people don’t

[@sergiomoreno6861]

If only he had questioned Jack Dorsey like this.

[@jamesmichaelcabrera9613]

He didn't ask jack jack shit because they both got high before they went on the podcast

[@asianmovement]

Tim pool

[@NotAnnaJones]

Jack Dorsey was smoking opiates, didja see his pupils?

[@spicymang0o]

I'm dissapointed the amount of times Dr. Rhonda said "I don't know".

[@chucknorris3752]

@Monchi Its honesty. Compared to the dishonest retards who've never done an experiment who assume their GUESSES are correct she doesn't say she knows anything until the data is concrete, not one or two papers - without a doubt.

[@Jpravenfan98]

It’s frightening how confidant and arrogant she is about the information she’s spewing…and how wrong she ended up being.

[@saintbenitz6291]

I lost all my respect and now I can hear her voice sounding like a teenager or pompous down talk rasp.

[@lw1zfog]

hubris before the cull

[@jimmlygoodness]

Except she wasn't.

[@paulforsell1439]

Narcissist liar is what this doctor is like most doctors

[@paulforsell1439]

@@saintbenitz6291 exactly

[@kristyleavitt8007]

I really appreciate that Joe is willing to have conversations with people with whom he disagrees and that he’s respectful in his discussions. It’s refreshing!

[@peezy23]

Joe really handed it to her very humbly

[@mattcarlin1724]

Yet to meet anyone who had any side effects from covid vaccines

[@Atomic_Johnny]

It's hard to listen to Joe disagree with a doctor. She's a doctor, he's a tv personality.

[@milesholt348]

So I guess we should trust Doctors no matter what. Gods in white coats. Awesome.

[@nfgxsilentgamer4314]

@@milesholt348 so I guess you should listen to a bald person who isn’t qualified to give health advice

[@mytruthslays1303]

"I'm going to talk about things that are wrong ..." Says a whole lot of nothing.

[@mewkatlol]

She is so desperate to shill

[@elmartillo7931]

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[@michaeljackson8390]

@@mewkatlol ✊⚠️💚I help expose our evil government (the Illuminati) I have 2,000,000+ overall channel views💜✊🎢[The about section will blow your mind]🤯😱😲!

[@WhyNotTruth]

Nothing you want to hear lol

[@Svoorhout85]

@@mewkatlol Poor woman just wants to keep her doctorate.

[@CryptoRoast_0]

I can always respect someone who says "I dont know".

[@th3realjorel]

Exactly

[@feelingoffbalance]

Exactly. People don't realise but true scientists say 'I don't know' quite a lot if you asked them a bunch of questions about a topic that are not specialising in that is also new and still under study. I agree with her overall argument. People don't realise EVERY medicine or medical procedure has risks, side effects etc. They demand 100%.It will never happen! You place your bet and roll the dice.

[@loto7197]

Yep. A fool answers questions when they don't know the answer

[@weaver909]

How about “I will have to circle back on that”?

[@nxco999]

last thing u wanna hear from a “doctor” while having a medical conversation is i don’t know

[@m0txill4]

My friend, completely healthy 40’s male, received the first two shots without issue. As soon as the booster was injected into his arm he experienced numbness and tingling spreading up his arm from the site of injection. This progressed to partial facial paralysis and numbness/general loss of use of his legs and arms. He sought medical help and the doctor refused to correlate his symptoms with the vaccine, even though the symptoms occurred precisely coincident with the administration of the booster, and the doctor refused to prescribe medication that is used for system-wide inflammation in Covid patients themselves. Some of the symptoms of Covid are similar to those with adverse vaccine reactions (steroids are administered, for instance). It has been approximately 7 months since he was injured by the booster and my friend is still recovering. Make of that what you will, I doubt the integrity of medical personnel at this point.

[@MELLE_IAM]

🙌🙌🙌

[@ebbyc1817]

Wowwwww that's an in_sane story. Thank you for sharing.

[@MsGarnet77]

His doctor literally makes me sick. What a pathetic, sick, selfish doctor refusing to help him!! What in the world is going on!!!

[@greenrainbows11]

All my issues happened post vaccination. Its real and it’s happening more often with boosters.

[@MsGarnet77]

@@greenrainbows11 And if you recall the FDA voted down boosters 16:3 base on no studies on booster safety. They only approved for elderly and immune compromised. Then suddenly this big push for everyone and now children. Does that make sense to anyone? Anyone??

[@reyg.8468]

Pretty much summarizes the whole nation’s state of mind “I don’t know”

[@TheGhostOfFredZeppelin]

At least she admits it, that's extremely rare these days

[@bozbozman1575]

Actually half of the population is very confident they know Ivermectin works

[@ffdd6102]

Except for the information we do know and obviously points in one direction

[@davidabuyo6932]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJDNhqttetR2pM0.

[@davidabuyo6932]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJDNhqttetR2pM0..

[@chrisbr1969]

If you watch the news we’re in the middle of a pandemic. If you don’t it’s Friday.

[@mgggg78897]

Ok chad

[@noconsentgiven]

Lovely😂😂😂👍!

[@chrisbr1969]

@@mgggg78897 ok, Karen. I’m not the one who wore a diaper on my face because I was scared to get the sniffles.

[@mgggg78897]

@@chrisbr1969 ok chad

[@vanillajack5925]

You could say that about anything, turn off the news and get off social media, focus on your own life. You'll be much happier.

[@FlowerThePot]

7:34 I rather hear her say, “I don’t know” than hear bloggers and politicians lie with confidence.

[@lola1987fudgeyouu]

Fair enough

[@lomoholga]

People are complete idiots and have zero clue about the basic scientific method They hear someone say ‘i don’t know’ and they hear ‘I’m stupid’ They hear a scientist change their minds based on new evidence and they think ‘fucking wishy washy waffler’

[@detossangrasse5428]

@@lomoholga Exactly. The smartest people change their minds with new evidence, only morons are saying the same thing now they were a year ago.

[@rosek7114]

Yes, but it's kind of annoying that she begins to talk about misinformation and then barely seems to know any facts herself.

[@luiscarlosciudad88]

@@lomoholga except she says vx is conpletely safe yet knows none of the data

[@juansuarez705]

Every other sentence she says "I don't know." But, she talks with so much confidence on why you should take the vaccine.

[@fifteenbyfive]

People who say "I don't know" and talk with great confidence and knowledge are usually scientists. Like her.

[@teeeff8337]

IMO she actually sounds nervous and unsure about what she’s saying. I can hear it in her voice, no confidence. Now we know why.

[@TrollFalcon]

"It's like 50 in a million." "I know 2" "Oh, ya, I forgot. I know one as well."

[@randymarsh8411]

I wonder if she understands though?

[@camboobass]

Makes sense. They have more friends than me.

[@TrollFalcon]

@@randymarsh8411 that honestly just seemed like a weird exchange. "Ya, it's super rare." "I know 2." "I forgot, I know one as well." Say what now? Is it rare, or is it just your friends getting it.

[@hkaszowi]

@@TrollFalcon exactly! I mean think about if he knows 2 she knows 1, I know 3, and so on...........thats not rare

[@randymarsh8411]

@@TrollFalcon BINGO my jaw dropped, like ...do these dumb dumbs realize they have evidence it's not so rare maybe? lol

[@pawlygon929]

“Sincerity is not a test of truth, we must not make this mistake…because it is possible to be sincerely wrong” - Jim Rohn

[@michaeljackson8390]

@then ur awesome ✊⚠️💚I help expose our evil government (the Illuminati) I have 2,000,000+ overall channel views💜✊🎢[The about section will blow your mind]🤯😱😲!

[@imaginationastronaut6568]

Love that you quoted Jim Rohn. That should happen more often

[@Svoorhout85]

I like Hansons razor: Dont attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity. With that in mind, I dont think theres a cobspiracy to depopulate the earth. Just a lot if stupid people in positions of power who are finally being tested and found wanting. But use their power to hide their incompetence.

[@acutecloudd7970]

Yeah anti vaxxers

[@dirtydangler]

@@Svoorhout85 well said

[@Phoenixtijar7070]

Joe loves Rhonda as a guest ….but you can tell he held back and didn’t agree with what she was saying

[@TheReferrer72]

He does not comprehend what she is saying and is using the old anecdotal trick do you know someone, as if that is indicative of the population at large.

[@DizzyLeigh]

He wouldn't let her fully explain things, kept interrupting her at the beginning of this clip, he wasn't open to finding out different or even correct information that doesn't fit with what he believes. His body language alone shows he was not open to being educated and properly informed. I normally like Joe and will always enjoy the diverse range of guests he has, but the more i watch these days hes becoming more and more a know it all and unwilling to seek the truth if it doesn't suit his misinformed narrative. Everyone is going to get Covid19 eventually, thats fact, however you're given a 95% chance of surviving if you are fully vaccinated. That doesn't mean you wont survive without the vaccine, but you will have one hell of a fight on your hands and it will also mutate more amongst those who are un-vaccinated, so we will be chasing our tale trying to keep up with new variants. Being any anit-vaxxer based on misinformation, will come back to bite people like Joe Rogan in the arse.

[@zant41]

Good thing she's the doctor then

[@kamaeguy]

He also didn’t let her finish a thought once

[@rivermorrison8383]

@@TheReferrer72 No, actually if you know 2 people that have done something that's supposed to be 1 in a million that's pretty significant.

[@itsmeyoufool37]

I'm embarrassed for this woman

[@drichards4426]

My man joe came ready for this battle fully armed. Damn.

[@megustavophoto]

It’s so dumb… he asks questions meant to instill doubt when she brings up data about issues with covid, but does not bother to ask the same question about his own claims about vaccine damage… there is a fundamental misunderstanding of the comorbidities that I’m surprised no one has confronted Joe with: comorbidities are not pre-existing conditions! The most common comorbidity is pneumonia, because Covid causes pneumonia and pneumonia kills you…

[@Nick-ow8hs]

CCC: cool, calm, collective.

[@BooksNGuns]

And he even cited his sources.

[@eddy4688]

@Jo Fugya Agree, she came along with the same old script & when gently challenged pretty much had no answers apart from the scripted ones.

[@ReptillianHumanoids]

@@megustavophoto KZbin keeps taking this down read it. The mRNA/ lipid nano particles enter the blood stream from injection site and circulate all throughout the body. They enter your vascular endothelial cells/ organs that contain the Ace2 receptor and another one I can’t remember the name of. The lipid uses a hiv entry system to gain access to the cell and deliver mRNA instructions for synthetic spike protein to the ribosomes. They claimed the spike was anchored to the cell but this is a lie. When your body mounts an enhanced immune response to the spike it will also cause major damage to your blood vessels and organ causing failure. With the clot mixture in the blood as well the pressure in the blood vessel and elasticity becomes out of balance and leads to heart failure. The next issues is prions exiting the damaged vessels and crossing the blood brain barrier and building inside of organs. If the spike protein can also change proteins like a zombie infection we will see every hospital bed filled with an Alzheimer’s patient and spongiform encephalopathy of the brain. This is a kill shot and the boosters will ignite your immune system that was already damaged and likely kill you. This is covert warfare and planned depopulation. The evidence for a virus they have is just a ccp computer generation of a segment of a viral genome. There is no isolate. Tell me what are your thoughts on this. I’m telling I fear the worst because I understand real science of how the human body works and how stupid of an idea it is to inject chemicals into your body and synthetic mRNA that targets your body’s own fast growing tissues (testes, ovaries, blood brain barrier

[@antonioavina5007]

I had hemorrhage stroke. 4 DAYS AFTER MY SECOND V, Joe Rogan , I'm only 32 years . It almost killed me .

[@neighborlyfiend1484]

As she said, these side affects are about 50 in 1million. But those that did not get vax and caught covid had a higher risk of the same thing. So think about that. You got vaxed and this happened, if you didn't get vaxed your body in all likelyhood would have reacted worse to covid and you would have had the same thing happen. She said this over and over and over. It's not that hard to understand. You were that 50 out of 1million with that side affect but you would have been like 1000 in 1million that covid would have done the same thing to. The difference is if you were not in that 50 or 1000 out of a million. Getting vaxed also helped protect others with higher morbidity rates too. Sorry you got ill, thank you for getting vaxed.

[@loveisraeljesusfirst2272]

Which did you take? So sorry to hear this

[@neron8497]

Yeah. I got a blood clot in my heart from Pfizer which led to a minor heart attack. I'm 31. Glad we're both still around.

[@misskathy4931]

My nurse friend had blood clot to the brain after taking jab. She was in a coma for 3 mo. before they let her go. Another friend had heart attack. A friend's daughter lost her baby . So I opted not to get jab , and when I got covid I took Ivermectin. I was sick 2 days. I don't know anyone who died of covid.

[@rekalilithhorvath100]

This happens when u listen to the government and get vaxed. It was your choice. Next time maybe think

[@TheCrystalbrite]

Joe after hearing this: Ok I will take Ivermectin instead of vaccines..

[@Matthew36959]

Worked out pretty well for him. While fully vaccinated Oscar Dela Hoya had to be hospitalized.

[@romancultist6089]

Except that's not what happened. Nice frame though.

[@TheCrystalbrite]

@@Matthew36959 And how many unvacc died that you overlooked?

[@TheCrystalbrite]

@@romancultist6089 He said he took ivermectin. Nice anti science though.

[@perrybb2]

You can't take a vaccine while you're already infected, genius. Well, you can, but it won't work

[@CAJ1001]

I wonder how she feels now, after one year where literally everything she tried to denie is the reality!

[@petepuchalski3253]

She may have some stock in the vaccine maybe listens only to the money makers pushing it. She is a horrible spokeswoman for pro vaccine because she don't know much

[@abaddon4823]

She’d still deny it

[@donaldprevost1098]

Bought and sold

[@Landstalker1999]

She'll probably say.... "NO REFUNDS"

[@Chris-ee5xg]

cognitive dissonance

[@sephblack]

"I don't know" is about the most honest and accurate answer anybody could have in regard to this situation.

[@thekeeks58]

So it shouldn’t be mandated

[@kabrink64]

ok, fine. I don't know if I should get this possibly dangerous vaccine. Thanks.

[@sephblack]

@@kabrink64 as I said in another comment, if the vaccine fucks you up then covid will probably fuck you up worse, and you are bound to get it either way. So you have to do a risk analysis. It seems clear to me now (after many many months of suspicion, skepticism and not being willing to take it). That's the conclusion I've come to, you are of course free to choose for yourself (I hope, depending on where you are).

[@sephblack]

@@thekeeks58 agreed.

[@NicodemusT]

@@kabrink64 30 people who've died from vaccine. 600,000 of your fellow countrymen died from COVID. Get your head checked.

[@JLQuinn-kq3gf]

I thought she said all of these 8 things were "all wrong" , then after discussing them "okay, obviously there is risk". And a lot of "I'm not quite sure." " I don't know exactly." - And yet she claims that those 8 things are all definitely, hands down "misinformation"....

[@Midnight-Reason]

Something can be wrong, without the correct answer being known..

[@twtaylor4064]

This shows a lack of understanding in general, so it seems you're in the same boat.

[@hatemadness]

Thank you! She had no basis of saying it's misinformation. That's just their new weaponized term to stop word from getting out.

[@jcarroll7371]

She is actually wrong about all of them. Even the people pushing the shot say it doesn't prevent it

[@jcarroll7371]

@@twtaylor4064 yea but she said those 8 things are blatantly lies then backtracked on it all. If she doesn't have the understanding she should stfu and stop preaching. She is factually wrong about all 8 points according to the CDC and the people against the shot

[@killingbadfaith5630]

The only thing I learnt from this interview is that if you are pro or anti vax, it does not matter. You will find the information you need to back the way you feel about things.

[@johntruxal432]

Gee you just described 160 million voters...🤔

[@francisproulx9669]

Yep, selfish idiots that knows nothing.

[@wesleyblueislandkid469]

correct!!! i’m neither anti vac or for vac, i’m just staying pact, cause i don’t know!!!! & i’m working on immunity which is harder than just taking a shot & saying oh well i’m good! covid isn’t the only way you can die

[@theeggtimertictic1136]

And the opposite is also true

[@Ron_the_Skeptic]

You may have also learned a little about complex systems and that there is no magic bullet. The vaccine is not without risk and nothing is known about long term implications of the vaccine or the virus. We know the Spanish Influenza pandemic killed more people in the same period of time. You should be allowed to decide which risk is right for you.

[@georgesiaosi2087]

Oops, those 8 points didn't age too well

[@NinoBless]

I just counted 32 different “I Don’t Know’s” …. I appreciate her honesty and her expertise

[@matthewheers7001]

LOL

[@DjDugiUK]

Ha ha

[@jarnold3415]

If she was trying to convince ppl to get the vax she wasn’t Biden Afghanistan bad but she wasn’t very convincing

[@chadng84]

Your not an expert when you say “I don’t know” all the time and ya know she is an expert of saying what Fauci and co are trying to do and shove this vaccine down your throat and news flash the vaccine is dangerous.

[@ryanlogou5482]

Yeah helped zero

[@2realizeu]

Joe's body language speaks volumes.

[@dw-yc6qb]

Yrp says it all, if she wasnt a chick, neck crank be on by now ,

[@Double_Vision]

@@dw-yc6qb This man Joes.

[@mp5249]

Doesn't hear what he wants to hear?

[@flavor_rebornrestorations9621]

She looked away 50% of the time.

[@TheSophisticatedSavage]

@@mp5249 She's frantic and upset, he's calm cool and collected. People with 4 Comorbidities are 19 x more likely to die from covid then healthy people. She didn't have any answer for the variable of health

[@MikeCamposMortgage]

She should implement “I’ll circle back” to her Vocabulary.

[@liamrmorgans921]

😂

[@Demon_DC]

😂🥇

[@gantz4u]

No..You gotta go bro.

[@rudyzk]

She's honest. Covid is fairly new, there's nothing sure about it.

[@chucknorris3752]

Joe kept asking her questions, faster than she could answer because they were complex questions with scientific answers. It's kinda Joes fault for talking over her and interjecting a new question before she finishes answering his last. She wanted to debunk the 8 claims one by one but he didn't let her.

[@andrewvice4065]

Crazy how everything she said a year later was proved wrong

[@deedriver4566]

Totally wrong

[@umdolofia]

8/8 wrong ain't bad....

[@colmcq]

like what?

[@thegrinder531]

And let's not lose sight of how Covid came to be. That is just as important as everything else.

[@azysheff]

Yh exactly! the intelligence services and military needs to be held accountable.. how nobody is mentioning what they’ve done is crazy..

[@zalanicht]

Im really starting to think it was a weapon used by China to separate the left and the right even more and cause a civil war so China can take over even easier.

[@ChunkyPuke4me]

Fauci and the medical mafia ensuring the whole planet is their patient in perpetuity.

[@jaymatchen6574]

@@azysheff someone's got their tin foil hat out..lol

[@sentientcardboarddumpster7900]

@@jaymatchen6574 yea because crazier things haven't happened

[@sicksenseskates8317]

No one's making eating peanuts mandatory 😕

[@pewlivepie5006]

Can you imagine? Tax payer money on peanuts, with no antiviral properties? Jeez!

[@ngocbui3761]

Most underrated comment.

[@PatColomb]

You’re not allowed to bring peanuts to most schools...

[@sicksenseskates8317]

@@PatColomb I'm aware, you missed the point completely...

[@joebobjenkins7837]

There's a lot of health benefits to peanuts. Mandatory snickers for everyone!

[@cmaplefreak]

I clicked this video thinking it was gonna be Rhonda serving joe. 6 minutes in, and Joe has been serving her lol

[@seriouscatisserious]

Serving her what? A plate of moron? What he can't put together is that correlation doesn't mean causation. What she's implying is that people drop dead due to heart disease all the time, and there's a statistical likelihood due to the large numbers involved, that somewhere somebody is going to drop dead immediately after receiving a COVID vaccine, and that doesn't necessarily mean that the vaccine caused the heart failure. His brain is no different than any Karen who thinks that vaccines cause autism; no, that's not the case at all, it's simply an artifact that childhood vaccines and the first signs of autism happen around the same age and is simply a correlation. This is easy to extrapolate from the data, and has been over and over again, when we compare instances of autism with children who receive vaccines and those who don't -- there's no difference, therefore, it ain't the vaccine.

[@alexmurphy5289]

@@seriouscatisserious I literally worked out the same afternoon after my second shot of pfizer. All these people screaming about side effects must never take ANY medication in their lives because I’ve had horrible experiences with many other treatments but the vaccine was nothing. I’m not exactly going to be sprinting to get the booster either, but seriously the mental gymnastics going on in these comments is embarrassing. None of these people have medical backgrounds and all of a sudden give them google and you’ve got yourself an MD.

[@jonnyj9994]

He was definitely serving her peer reviewed research with a personal anecdote.

[@FromTrash2Treasure]

@@alexmurphy5289 my young cousin developed a neurological issue after taking the vaccine. Some of us are lucky to not get side effects. They’re real.

[@pamelawalmsley5971]

@@seriouscatisserious So many sheep.

[@davethomas543]

2 years later .............. This video has now discredited anything she has ever , and will ever say . Scary how otherwise intelligent people , can be duped and manipulated by the system.

[@sarahconnor7786]

Really is amazing, grant everything she said, still doesn’t justify coercion, mandates, the overreach of government, the lack of Liability for big pharma, the charade of masks, the reordering of our society etc. that’s the elephant in the room.

[@janeblack520]

Hey there, 💎

[@sarahconnor7786]

@@janeblack520 back at ya! Warms my heart seeing you here. Just unbelievable isn’t it?

[@janeblack520]

@@sarahconnor7786 yeah, totally. I got very overwhelmed with sadness today. But, HP released that new video today and I felt more comfort. I’ve been holding fine, but today sadness gripped me hard.

[@joebauers8031]

Damn right!

[@sarahconnor7786]

@@janeblack520 God bless ya! Yeah it gets me overwhelmed and a lil down sometimes too, but then I remember that as long as I am right with God, right in my own soul, there’s nothing they can do. And I’ve held my babies, laughed with them, loved them for years on end, and so if this whole shit house goes up tomorrow, I still made out like a bandit!! Shut it all down, take a walk, take those deep soul filling breathes and realize it’s all a trick.

[@TylerValendza]

Good for Joe for asking hard questions. This is the type of questioning that all of our leaders should receive.

[@MegaLeoben]

Quite pathetic watching Joe desperately trying to hold on to his irrational covid denying beliefs. lmao.

[@goldenalchemist]

@@MegaLeoben Pathetic? He's stating actual studies and referring to legitimate studies.

[@keymold4405]

@@MegaLeoben lol ur mad 🤡 go cry somewhere else

[@kopiec6565]

@@keymold4405 how do you know he's crying? His comment doesn't indicate that

[@spookysilly668]

Being a dipshit is not asking hard questions, he got schooled

[@metothemoon1227]

"If people one day woke up and became happy with themselves imagine how many industries would run out of business"

[@cubeincubes]

Happiness isn’t an illusion, it’s a hallucination.

[@FK-tz7gs]

@@cubeincubes life is an illusion

[@metothemoon1227]

*"The perfect dictatorship would be a dictatorship that would have the appearances of democracy. A prison without walls from which prisoners would not even dream of escaping. A system of slavery where, through consumption and entertainment, slaves would have the love of their bondage ". -Aldous Huxley* *"We are moving towards the emergence of a Global Transformation. All we need is the Major Crisis. And the peoples will accept the New World Order." -David Rockefeller*

[@metothemoon1227]

They know vaccines contain dangerous substances. ' They know that vaccines cause serious health problems. ' They have already had to deal with patients with severe side effects from vaccines. The only person who benefits from being in good health is you and those you care for. ' Pharmaceutical companies have infiltrated and taken control of the entire medical system, including medical schools, medical journals, hospitals, clinics and local pharmacies. Doctors' income therefore depends on blind faith, which means never questioning any aspect of any vaccination. Even when the doctor has clear evidence of vaccine damage in front of him, he / she is usually reluctant to consider vaccination as the cause. Despite the fact that uncorrupted science and medicine support the abandonment of vaccines, doing so may be considered suicidal for one's professional career. The signatories of this document courageously and definitively assume these risks for your safety and that of your children. ' Hospitals benefit financially from hospitalizations and exams. ' Pharmaceutical companies are taking billions of dollars out of vaccines. ' Pharmaceutical companies earn tens of billions of dollars selling drugs to "treat" side effects and lifelong chronic illnesses caused by vaccines. ' Vaccines are the backbone of the medical system. Without vaccines, health care costs would go down because ultimately we would have a healthier society as a whole. We've traded chickenpox for autism, the flu for asthma, ENT infections for diabetes, 'and the list could go on and on. In frantically trying to eradicate relatively benign microbes, we have traded temporary illnesses for lifelong, heavy, insidious chronic illnesses, disorders, dysfunctions, incapacities and other disabilities. American children receive all doses of all vaccines, they are given 35 injections which contain 113 different kinds of microbial particles, 59 different chemicals, 4 types of cells or animal DNA as well as human DNA from fetuses abortions and human albumin. If you think you don't have to worry because your children are older, think twice.

[@metothemoon1227]

There are as many as 20 more vaccines currently in the pharmaceutical industry's development pipeline to be marketed in the next few years, most of them intended for adolescents and adults. -vaccines may not be able to harm your health with that '' Adventitious viruses or bacteria from the culture media from which vaccines are made 'Mercury, a notorious neurotoxicant, which is always found in Multi-dose vials of influenza vaccine used around the world. In addition, mercury is still found in trace amounts in several other vaccines. ' Aluminum, a poison that causes degeneration of bones, bone marrow and brain. ' Animal cells from monkeys, kidneys from dogs, chickens, cows, and humans. ' Formaldehyde (used for embalming the dead), a notorious carcinogen. ' Polysorbate 80, known to cause infertility in female mice and testicular atrophy in male mice. ' Gelatin, obtained from pigs and cattle, known to cause anaphylactic reactions and found in large quantities in MMR vaccines and those against chickenpox and herpes zoster. ' Monosodium glutamate (MSG) in inhaled influenza vaccines, a substance known to cause metabolic disturbances (e.g. diabetes), seizures and other neurological disorders Conflicts of interest 'The same people who do vaccine regulations and recommendations also benefit from the sale of vaccines.

[@derrabe9284]

Please invite her again and give her a chance to correct herself in at least some points.

[@HaHaroni]

Why? She just showed that she's not qualified to talk on the subject. I think we've heard enough from her.

[@bestill.4216]

@@HaHaroni Everyone deserves a second chance!

[@HaHaroni]

@@bestill.4216 People have died because doctors and nurses aren't willing to do basic research. She should be tried as an accomplice to murder, not given a second chance. You don't seem to understand the gravity of the situation.

[@brunolameiras17]

Where is she wrong?

[@liamkeegan3849]

@@brunolameiras17 Shes adamant that the 8 points she mentioned are misinformation but with a years hindsight we now know they are true. So her entire premise is wrong.

[@salty5506]

Seems like a lot of “I don’t knows” to be passing any legislation regarding vaccination

[@keithschnekenburger8893]

Exactly my thought she started out being so authoritative and then the whole conversation says over and over I don't know I don't know I don't know

[@xtiphuny89]

I think the rationale is that, because we know so little about a novel virus that is causing worrisome symptoms that create longterm health issues in people, that we need to act extremely cautiously.

[@AegisofAges]

@@xtiphuny89 We actually know all we need to know about it all of the information is out there to make an informed decision, the problem is that the government and private businesses will not allow people to make their own choice about the vaccine.

[@raynwolfsbane2084]

@@AegisofAges you can make a choice. You just have to deal with the consequences of it if you choose not to get the vaccine.

[@bronsontolliver9027]

@@xtiphuny89 Cautious is measuring twice and cutting once, not sawing wildly and hoping the pieces fit. A lack of knowledge is all the more reason to not act hastily.

[@DaneOrschlovsky]

Here's a fun drinking game: Take a shot every time Dr Rhonda replies to Joe's question with "I don't know, but..."

[@Redbird1504]

and now I have alcohol poisoning.

[@juansolis8441]

Before reading this comment I was saying “I don’t know” in my head. Like damn do you know anything??

[@jaekwon1822]

plz i don't wanna die

[@Rebelofhiphop]

And the hesitations and the "uhmmmm...well...." Lol

[@frasert8779]

Still glad someone is able to admit they don’t know something instead of pretending they do, but I’m not playing as I will get way too drunk lol

[@Greenfield5150]

she's not afraid to say she doesn't know. Luckily y'all know everything.

[@adamdavis4928]

I trust random people on KZbin much more than doctors how dare you lol.

[@lukeatbrandynightful]

yes we need more discussions like this video, why do all the comments have to lean towards one side so much, can't we just say we don't know and be honest

[@scottbarker21]

she either 'doesn't know', or she is being very deceitful ..... here is what i DO know. When I had a flu virus and I went to the Dr I was told 'it just has to run its course, nothing I can give you" . So, has medicine changed its thoughts about 'viruses"?

[@stevenburton4966]

@@scottbarker21 yeah, when you got the flu and seen the doctor, you already missed your chance to get vaccinated before you got infected by the flu, so, nothing left to do but go home and odds are you'll be fine. but hell flu kills plenty of old people too, gets your lungs ripe for a good old pneumonia bacterial infection.

[@adamdavis4928]

@DroopyWorm no I only believe in chakras, acupuncture, astrology, and numerology none of that technical sciencey stuff they make doctors learn in school. I like to go with my gut and intuition over science.

[@leapsill1969]

Bring her back!!! Let’s talk to this lady now!!! 2023

[@jaishankarsaran9497]

This is really sad and disturbing Specially, Young and physically fit persons dying from heart attack. Even many have no severe medical condition and the number of these incidents are increasing. This should be studied seriously, why is this happening? If vaccines spiked these number then what is needed to be done to save rest of the people. Some Organisations must investigate and collect data about it. Take care everyone

[@rayBARInvest]

Dr. Rhonda "I dont know" Patrick. Just listening to her makes me know why people are skeptical.

[@kpb1337]

Medicine is all about odds. Doctors have to be careful not to say anything is 100%

[@rayBARInvest]

@@kpb1337 The odds also say young healthy people will be ok. Dont cherry pick my guy. :)

[@illegibleledger]

@@rayBARInvest she literally talked about how young healthy people got myocarditis in far greater numbers and legit brain atrophy. did you have covid because you might want that brain rot looked at

[@rayBARInvest]

@@illegibleledger awww personal attacks cause people dont agree with you. Go watch CNN or Fox you shill.

[@adlockhungry304]

You’d rather listen to the people who confidently claim to know the answer to every question regardless of what evidence is or is not available? Pro tip: real scientists are good at saying “I don’t know” rather frequently because they are honest and will never claim to know something they don’t have oodles of data to support.

[@soccerbywes7049]

It’s great to watch this 4 months later and see some of the stuff she/people believed is proven to be false.

[@cryptomando]

I'm here with you. The censorship machine is strong.

[@raivanframpton5408]

Like what?

[@bisk1407]

can you elaborate?

[@JAYxNE0N]

Exactly

[@tatnip]

She said that “vaccinations don’t prevent transmission” was on her list of “misinformation “. Clearly it doesn’t as even the CDC admitted in July 2021. He should have called her out on it.

[@Dwiggytv-OG]

Guys, someone really needs to tell the Amish that there's a pandemic and they should be scared. They don't have TV so how would they know?

[@sashmanalbinkee7674]

Work with a Few ZERO have the vax

[@Pescasaurus]

@@sashmanalbinkee7674 They're so secluded they won't be at risk. Until they all of a sudden are. Which'll hit em like a hammer. Hopefully it won't reach em.

[@Ketchupse]

@@Pescasaurus well a lot of Amish work manufacturing RVs in northern Indiana so you can look into if they have caught it there

[@suelynnb5867]

Some non-Amish people don’t have cable, like myself. I find out what’s going on w/ it from simply going in public/interacting with other humans.

[@Zadkiel862]

wvutoday.wvu.edu/stories/2021/06/22/death-and-religion-excess-deaths-sweep-through-amish-and-mennonite-communities-during-covid-19-pandemic

[@Pepster_p]

My problem here is every time Joe asks a specific question her answer is I don’t know. Example she will say “Myocarditis happens in young people anyways without the vaccine” and he asks “how many and how do they know it isn’t from the vaccine?” And she says I don’t know. Like what? What do you mean you don’t know. You’re supposed to be an expert

[@elliot1784]

Incredible right? It’s their profession to know like wtf

[@jaishankarsaran9497]

This is really sad and disturbing Specially, Young and physically fit persons dying from heart attack. Even many have no severe medical condition and the number of these incidents are increasing. This should be studied seriously, why is this happening? If vaccines spiked these number then what is needed to be done to save rest of the people. Some Organisations must investigate and collect data about it. Take care everyone

[@keshaanster]

@@elliot1784so would you rather them come up with some arbitrary answer than be honest about them not knowing?

[@elliot1784]

@@keshaanster I’d rather they be competent

[@sparkerino92]

The most shaken Rhonda has ever been on the podcast

[@davidorganism6064]

She got the jab

[@erichughes2636]

I've seen many people have severe cognitive dissonance when they talk about mRNA vaccines after they have received the treatment. It's in their personal health to deny the deta in front of them.

[@jasonablah7702]

@Jo Fugya dude she doesn't want to get canceled. She has a family to take care of

[@jeremiahcampbell2]

@Jo Fugya No, she's pretty great. Speaking as someone who probably won't get the jab anytime soon, she's probably right about the benefits outweighing the risks. I just don't think she was prepared. Joe and Rhonda have a health love afair and she probably thought this interview would have zero resistance.

[@benc2972]

@@jasonablah7702 Then she should be silent instead of passionately defending actual misinformation. This is dangerous.

[@risbill1]

A family member had covid back in November last year and has had issues since. They kept saying it was just long term covid. Turns out it was actually lung cancer and it went undiagnosed because they refused to test for anything else.

[@CaramelAmnesia]

Uff, Bro thats the problem here in Europe also, very sad. They dont know shit. Just make a overall test in your country. costs 50-200 Euros, but they test you everywhere

[@bobshenatzky5576]

Covid is the new obsession. The shiny object everyone is fixated on.

[@ThaTruFily]

Maybe it's the healthcare system that treats you properly only if you got the money for it, where the culture is "don't get a check-up until it's already too late".

[@risbill1]

@@ThaTruFily more like everything is covid so let's not consider any alternatives.

[@ThaTruFily]

@@risbill1 I got Drs in my family and none expressed these concerns, they keep doing their work as per usual. But we don't live in the US and got more regulations for healthcare 🤐

[@ahpacific]

What's bizzare to me is the level of "I don' t know" and "you need more data to confirm" coexisting with such high levels of certainty about what people ought to do. It leads to me believe even highly educated people can have hard time staying objective.

[@SuperSaiyanCj]

people are people @ahpacific , emotions are misleading :D

[@clydefrog6959]

Trust me, the only reason you believe this is because you’re obviously not a college graduate. If you had gone to college you would understand that anyone who hasn’t been is a simpleton & cannot be trusted.

[@sanderossi8013]

Objectivity or being able to think independently really hasn’t anything to do with education or intelligence level.

[@getzapped5341]

@@clydefrog6959 lol

[@russhyn]

Agreed, it should be OK to admit that we don’t know and we’re learning as we go…. But everyone’s pretending like they KNOW it all.

[@nukacola3795]

I literally laugh at anyone who drove to a parking lot to get pumped full of drugs from complete strangers 🤪😅

[@strawgynxking5944]

Well, it's not funny, but yes, why would anyone do that? People are so brainwashed when it comes to doctors and the poisons they offer up.

[@jjk9999]

"It's all misinformation, except for the stuff that isn't". This really cleared everything up. So helpful.

[@santoryuu6807]

😂😂😂

[@trevor7355]

“I’m going to start by immediately dividing you into two groups”

[@ffdd6102]

Not the best choice of words but it is true

[@davidabuyo6932]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJDNhqttetR2pM0.m

[@genzprepper1464]

Proves she and most career doctors are sell outs

[@Makai77]

Joe- “let’s get some good information out there and clear up some misinformation” Dr.- “I got nothing… I don’t know” Everyone- “I’d like a second opinion”

[@bigtruckboy20011]

I laughed my ass off at this, thanks

[@IphigeniaAtAulis]

@@cookiemonster208 But she couldn't provide an answer to the questions he brought up. I thought Rhonda was a little more skeptical than this. She clearly hasn't bothered to really study up on many of the criticisms and concerns that people on the other side (like Bret) put forward and many of the fudging of the data that is going on.

[@Kenobi487]

Spot on, she just keeps saying something and then not elaborating on it.

[@ingajeffrey1978]

😆

[@andrewdishman26]

@@cookiemonster208 agreed but at the same time she said she wanted to discuss misinformation without Joe saying anything but then couldn’t convincingly enough answer Joes questions sometimes not at all. At a certain point she’s says I’m not a virologist but I just think people should get the shot. That’s not very convincing. Also she made it out that she has studied Ivermectin but really had no substance in her argument against it just that when a doctor claims a 99% success rate you know it’s a scam. Nobody ever claimed 99% success even Doctor Kory not even close.

[@adamrees5457]

This was definitely a mood changer.... You can hear in both their voices where they stand. It would be interesting if Dr pierre was also there.... We need proper uncensored conversations that are respectful.

[@FrancisAlpatro]

Yep I

[@DarkRendarius]

Agreed !

[@emmanuelburnett]

Exactly!!!

[@ShaglusZ]

seemed pretty respectful. it's good when the mainstreamers have to confront all the irregularities going down. i don't know dr pierre but it's always good to have more...

[@nameunavailable1330]

@Don when’s the last time any of them have been platformed?

[@tolpot]

The public has a right to have her back so she can clear up any misinformation she stated.

[@efptozebay167]

Hold her accountable. Oprah had James Frey back on to demand a personal (to her, not to the public) apology for lying about the book he sold as a memoir. No one lost their job or ability to hold their urine over that.

[@soyboy2238]

Don't hold your breath. Rogan idolizes her.

[@SuperJohnyyy]

RIP Roy Butler, he was a healthy 23 year old had his whole life ahead of him he died two days after the shot from a bleed on the brain and the Irish media are ignoring this

[@hotwheelman4pops]

Yep, same. I know a 45yo healthy dude that died

[@cffmailbox]

Interestingly those vaccines saved enough lives that the few people (under 1% of 1% try that math…) who died were worth the cause

[@410Phonso]

@@cffmailbox you’re an agent

[@VukLazarMusic]

@@cffmailbox as long as they take the shot voluntarily and fully informed of the risks, not if it's mandated for all - which is the biggest problem with all this, you can't force people to take on fatal risks

[@thedon4060]

Sorry for your loss...get all info that you can from it and speak up

[@neverbeabletoremembe]

"I don't know" is the best answer for anyone who upholds the scientific method

[@Official_KC]

EXACTLY. I saw people mocking this woman and saying "Joe is telling it like it is!!". And look where that got him.

[@letthedarkin2817]

@@Official_KC wait but he is fine?

[@letthedarkin2817]

@@Official_KC and telling it like it is is exactly what got him millions and the largest podcast ever created

[@paulolson9191]

She's not going to make shit up, there is still a lot we don't know and haven't studied, not her fault. It is safe to say a vaccine is the best method for humoral immunity and defense against the virus.

[@TranscendentaLobo27]

@@letthedarkin2817 did you hear what she said about long term complications? Blood vessel deterioration, grey matter atrophy in the brain, etc? So yeah, maybe he’ll be fine, maybe not. Maybe this mess will take 15 years off his life, maybe not. People are looking for reasons to make medicine political, like there’s some Machiavellian plot behind all of this, and THAT is fucking ridiculous. The masks/vaccine should never have been made political.

[@georgejefferson9962]

“Trust the experts!” The experts: “I don’t know.”

[@bsx132]

They do know, they just can't come out and say it for fear of being called "AnTi-ScIenCe" and literally forced out of the medical community or won't because they're profiting off of it. Everyone knew cloth "masks" didn't do a single thing to stop a microscopic pathogen from entering your body yet were still enforcing mandates on everyone. Now they want forced shots that do virtually nothing for 85% of the population, It's all about control and money. The vast majority of people dying from covid are severely overweight or immunocompromised .

[@kaseigunsou]

I'll tell you my true story : I got vaccinated and got as an adverse effect swollen lymph nodes 24 hours post injection in my neck, very painful for about 2 weeks and then only sore (they're still there). The secondary effect is listed on the Pfizer notice as possible. The first physician I talked to was surprised the vaccine could cause this effect (even though it is reported in the Pfizer notice and the initial studies!) The second physician I saw told me it was not possible it could come from the vaccine and told me it could be a lymphoma (yeah, a healthy 35yo male is more probable to develop cancer without any related history rather than develop a side effect which is documented on the vaccine notice...) Truth is : they don't know anything. Government have told them the outline of it all (vaccine good, covid bad) but they arent trained for anything remotely related to these specific vaccines. At this stage, we people have to look for the studies and such ourselves to get our answers. I know people who had a vaste array of side effects : sore back, white marks on the abdomen, sore lymph nodes, etc. Problem isn't the vaccine per say (these effects are pretty common with every vaccine), problem is medical field is SO brainwashed in favor of the vaccine they don't even consider you could have side effects in the first place.

[@jacobsaunders1092]

@@kaseigunsou very well said, doctors have studied and practice medicine and should be respected, but any good doctor will admit when they don't know something, my fathers doctor simply said he couldnt promise no adverse reactions from the vaccine. (My dad has had his first dose and is fine)

[@Gone2424]

Lmao the "experts" are the reason all this shit is happening in the first place.

[@cucumbers405]

@@kaseigunsou lol i got acynic cell carcinoma in my parotid glands and lymph nodes on my neck when i was 14 but please tell us more about how it’s impossible for a young person to have lymphatic cancer

[@tyrellrosario5553]

Plot twist she was wrong 😑 I wonder will she ever publicly apologize for spreading misinformation

[@Zenith6000]

What did she said about the vaccine ?

[@tyrellrosario5553]

@@Zenith6000literally the whole clip was her talking about vaccines wym ?

[@Zenith6000]

@@tyrellrosario5553 Youre saying mis information.. Are you a vaccine conspiracy theorist ?

[@jenniferkistler651]

The fact that Joe remained so calm during this was impressive...

[@joshuaoliver4473]

$$$$$

[@easymoney7007]

It's amazing he can sit in front of these well educated people and silently understand they are making it up as they go along.

[@kentbell6757]

Please do research G7 meeting in 2020 attend by 40 world leaders and lead by Joe Biden. The main topic was about "Laudato Si" book that Pope Francis wrote in 2015 to reach "Green New Deal" about Climate Change. All world leaders and Religious leaders already bow down, kiss his ring and call pope Francis God. They willing to do anything for him in the name of peace by taking "Basic Human Right" that come from God which is "Free Will." Any government and military in the world can not safe you. You are on your own. He will push "Climate Sunday" to the whole world to rest and WORSHIP POPE every Sunday to bring peace on earth. If you don't take Vaccine and any upcoming Law from pope: 1. They will persecuted you 2. Can not buy and sell 3. Can not enter any building 4. Can not have access to bank account 5. You will get fired from job 6. Can not apply any job 7. Can not pay bill 8. Lost home 9. Put in Jail/prison 10. Die slowly. Please do not believe me. Satisfy your eyes to do your own research. Pope claim himself Jesus and God on earth. Pop is the Anti-Christ. He used to kill millions Christian in the dark ages when Vatican Catholic rule the Rome combining Religious and political power. Now he is back with even greater power. He will never rest until we all bow down to pope because the Devil is behind him. Choose wisely: 1. Pope Francis authoritarian. 2. The creator Take care my friend 🙏

[@easymoney7007]

@@kentbell6757 CooKoo, CooKoo!!

[@way2fitTV]

cause he knows he's winning

[@Ongkarak5]

I love how Young Jamie comes in out of nowhere with straight up stats. Young Jamie, you are a fucking legend!

[@motleycat5030]

R u Aussie

[@Dino2GunZ]

He probably like 40 now 😆

[@j8thgen479]

@@Dino2GunZ still comparably young

[@Dino2GunZ]

@@j8thgen479 true but at what point do we stop calling him young Jamie

[@Dino2GunZ]

Guys I'm almost 40 I'm not calling anybody old don't get so sensitive

[@mytimetotube]

The sad thing is, this is the closest to a debate that I’ve seen on this subject.

[@mr.FRESHWATER]

Exactly. Its so fucked up

[@Mylittledistraktions]

She needs more time. Or should have started the last 40 minutes or so sooner

[@PursuedByAMemory]

@@MisterNobody608 It's your political system. Everything is politicised.

[@MakeYouFeelBetterNow]

@@Mylittledistraktions She makes points and then says "she doesn't know", and Joe is not interrogating her on obvious lies that she's made.

[@Mylittledistraktions]

@@MakeYouFeelBetterNow she says she doesn’t know because Joe is asking questions that are not a part of the data. Not knowing beyond the last statement is the correct answer if the data doesn’t show it. Guessing or concluding Without data is what bad scientists do. This is not a debate. It’s a studied person talking to an unwilling listener it seems. But time will tell Joe’s always been good with new knowledge. He’s gonna smoke his weed get paranoid do some shrrooms and reset. Hopefully.

[@somethingwelive]

Just stumbled upon this. This didn’t age well. Gotta give it to Joe for sticking to the facts (ie comorbidities) and asking her the right questions. How in 2021 could she say those concerns are misinformation when there were no long term studies to know the risks?

[@christopherespinoza-darnel8514]

The facts Joe was sticking had no long term studies either so you just contradicted yourself

[@soyboy2238]

And of the two, who is more accurate now?