Dr. Russell Moore Responds To Question at SBC16

[@juliefrancis1602]

I heard the very same message at Houston's First Baptist last week. Our speaker was a former Muslim who came to Christ because someone dared to befriend him instead of running away from him. Afshin Ziafat was disowned by his family after trusting Christ, but now he spends his life sharing the gospel with Muslims and encourages us to do the same.

[@jls5480]

Except George Soros was paying Moore the whole time.. uhh ohh

[@DennisRay99]

That great, but to be realistic about 10 American Christians convert to Islam for every one of these positive stories.

[@jhillky]

​@@DennisRay99 What makes Christianity so unattractive to those Christians that they'd rather be Muslim?

[@gabrielclymer5340]

Thank you Russell Moore. Praise the Lord. Let the Gospel of Jesus Christ go forward and continue to change the hearts and minds of Muslims the world over!

[@michaelward3208]

Gospel of the Baptist’s. Not Jesus Christ. Russ sure showed what it “...means to be a baptist...” It means making a fool out of a questioner and getting all the other Nazi-baptist to cheer and shame the question. That’s not the gospel of Jesus Christ, but clearly the Gospel of the SBC.

[@DennisRay99]

I thought he left SBC?

[@pabloremonsellez]

Excellent! Dr. Moore confronting bad theology. USA is not Israel and the Church was not called to create a theocracy, it was call to fulfill the great commission. We are call to be exiles and sojourners in this world not to control the world.

[@dennykeaton9701]

The right Rev Moore was shortly fired from any and all positions with the SBC. We'll probably never know why. Why such a big fanboy?

[@AshGeo]

This man is criminally underrated

[@DennisRay99]

You're right on the criminal part

[@AshGeo]

@@DennisRay99 care to elaborate? I don’t know much about him.

[@DennisRay99]

@@AshGeo He's left the denomination now. He now just writes liberal puff articles at Christianity Today. He mixes in a little Christianity into his liberal world view and makes a pretty good living. So you might say he's laughing all the way to the bank

[@AshGeo]

@@DennisRay99 oh

[@DennisRay99]

@@AshGeo And he is a friend and defender of George Soros. That you can verify

[@Leoji67]

My pastor (SBC) and I had a long discussion about this. My conclusion on this is that as an American who enjoys the civil liberties to worship in a church I agree that Muslim Americans have that same right to legally fight to worship where they want to and the community has the right to obstruct their plans legally in court. BUT as a Christian, I can not do anything that would encourage, promote or support the building of anything that points to a false god. I'm sure a similar comment to this has been made but I'm sure that on Mount Carmel the Prophet Elijah didn't offer to put up another asherah pole because the prophets of Baal had a "right" to worship the god they chose. We must remember our TRUE Citizenship is not of this world.

[@Benjamin-jo4rf]

do you bring this energy when the Mormons or Jehovahs Witnesses want to build a temple?

[@kennethfaught8754]

Excellent response, Dr. Moore! 👏👏👏

[@hannahbain1616]

That was such an amazing moment! He is so quick with the perfect response.

[@michaelward3208]

“...what it means to be a baptist...” Yes. Quick defending his ego. Showed no compassion. This was a meeting of “their own”. He made a fool out of his own membership and people cheered like Germans attacking Jews in 1938. “...what it means to be a baptist...” us to be a Nazi.

[@DennisRay99]

A horrible response, but as you said very quick

[@marcelwillieniles3816]

Amen to that...nothing arrogant in that answer...he was right on point...nothing but the gospel of JESUS CHRIST...❣❣❣

[@DennisRay99]

Very arrogant

[@DennisRay99]

@Andrew Gustafson I give you that. He doesn't beat around the bush. My biggest problem with him is he's constantly telling our government to bring in more Syrian and Afghan refugees. That is a very foolish stance.

[@HelloWorld1947]

I love this man! I notice many people in the comment section are viewing this earth (America specifically) as their kingdom. They are holding on to it for dear life. "Do not love the world nor the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him." 1 John 2:15

[@michaelward3208]

Russ loves his denomination and his ego. Don’t “love this man”. His response included, “...what it means to be a baptist...” Jesus didn’t live, get crucified and then cross his fingers in hopes for that fateful day in 1845 fir a group of slave owning hypocrites could create this crap organization of SBC so Russ and other ego centric leaders can spout their mouths off. Good riddance to this embarrassment to Jesus, but hero of the Baptist’s.

[@DB-qw6xq]

I think it's only a matter of time when Rev Russell Moore becomes a Catholic, he is demonstrably different from most Evangelical Christians and their various ecclesial community's politico/theological smelting pot.

[@kissesandcake]

This is the best answer I've ever seen.

[@kissesandcake]

Eric Blair said like someone who is deeply read & I'm sure knows the Constitution by heart. 🙄

[@michaelward3208]

It was the best answer if 1) you care about what it means to be a baptist more than a follower of Christ, and/or 2) you love to see a leader embarrass his own people, chew them up, spit them out, to the Cheers of the brainwashed with no compassion fir one of his own. Much like being a German Jew in 1933-1945. The crowd certainly like Russ’ destroying the questioner.

[@DennisRay99]

And the worst answer I have seen. What's with you trolls all coming on at the same time singing Russ praises.

[@kissesandcake]

@@DennisRay99 lol wow. Only 5 years later. I wouldn’t be so quick to call other people trolls especially when you have 0 videos on your account. 😂

[@dennykeaton9701]

​@@kissesandcake Interesting what has become of Russ Moore lately isn't it?

[@danielthomasminister]

He is the only thing holding this group together right now

[@michaelward3208]

Moore? I suppose he’s holding together the SBC, but is that important? Did God exist before this organization was formed in 1845? And it wasn’t formed on biblical true message, it was formed because Southerners wanted to protect Slave ownership. Not a great history. They should close them all down simply for that reason. Notice he says, “...what it means to be a baptist...” Do you think God cares? I don’t. I think all three, Father, Son and Holy Spirit think Russ is a dweeb. He’s a wannabe intellectual from Mississippi. And thus video is a perfect example of Russ’s misunderstanding of the faith. Paul never fought against the Roman Empire. The fact that $4M+ is sent to the ERLC is a tragedy. The follow up question to Russ is, with 700+ cases of sexual misconduct in the SBC, how much of your $4M+ is dedicated to improving the Ethics of your own organization?

[@DennisRay99]

He left

[@mrvixtergg]

Dr. Moore should have dropped the mic after he answered the question. I used to attend an SBC church here in Atlanta. I stopped attending when I realized the congregation embraced the immoral, inhumane, unethical things the current administration is doing. It contradicted all I had leaned as a new believer in Christ. Having said this, I would love to attend Dr. Moore’s Church, if it was located here in Atlanta.

[@michaelward3208]

Don’t bother attending his “baptist” church. Listen carefully, he said “...what it means to be a baptist...” That’s Russ’ ego talking. To be a follower of Christ is to be like Christ. Russ made that guy out to be a fool in front of his own people. It was disgusting and the Nazi rally cheered.

[@DennisRay99]

I'm pretty sure he left the SBC

[@DennisRay99]

Russ was kicked out of the SBC. He's now a resident philosopher for a magazine call Christianity today. And he does get overwhelmed by his own imagined intellect and drops that mic

[@DennisRay99]

@@michaelward3208 When the Moore Nazis cheered was the day I started my journey away from the SBC

[@xcalybur75]

There is a big difference between supporting the right to religious freedom upheld by the Constitution and supporting directly the building of a mosque.

[@baller0896]

entertain me

[@DennisRay99]

Agreed

[@DennisRay99]

@@baller0896 Let us entertain you. Let us show you the way. 🎵🎶🎵🎶🎵

[@dennykeaton9701]

​@@baller0896 Listening to Russ Moore lately is entertaining enough

[@brendaalexander8958]

excellent response. God bless you.

[@brendaalexander8958]

thank you, I think, lol.

[@michaelward3208]

“...what it means to be a baptist... “. If you want to be a Christ follower, that response was terrible, it was the opposite. The man asks a legitimate question and gets embarrassed and cheered against by his own people. Reminds me of what it was like to be a German Jew in 1933-1945. Russ Moore, the Joseph Goebbels of the SS-SBC.

[@dennykeaton9701]

Horrible response. He was thrown out a few years after this. He's now with some ultra liberal Christian organizations.

[@Wraiths_and_Wreckage]

I encourage everyone to read de Tocqueville's "Democracy in America", Book I, chapter XVII, Part III. The book is all over online. "In Europe, Christianity has been intimately united to the powers of the earth. Those powers are now in decay, and it is, as it were, buried under their ruins. The living body of religion has been bound down to the dead corpse of superannuated polity: cut but the bonds which restrain it, and that which is alive will rise once more."

[@cueoneful]

100 of churches sever any ties to SBC.

[@StacksUrbanHarvest]

Yes!

[@patrickwatts-nashville]

I like him Moore and Moore.

[@PatrickWattsFamily]

Thank you for your opinion.

[@mrssalina]

That's not the question. The question is Moore being a faithful Christian leader which is not. He follows political correctness and even condemns men like Judge Moore who are willing to suffer loss for the truth.

[@timmoreland]

Do you think Dr Moore should be defending religious liberty in April 2020? Because he is not.

[@DennisRay99]

And I like him less and less

[@DennisRay99]

You do realize that Turkey, Syria various other countries were Christian before the Muslims came? Now those Christians descendants are all Muslim. Didn't quite work out the way that Dr Moore days will happen here.

[@dorthyflowers4608]

I assume, Mr. Mede, that you moderate the comments here. Being an advocate of freedom, why sir are you deleting comments? Could it be because they are in opposition to Dr. Moore's position?

[@christophertaylor3150]

How about loving and blessing those Who hate and persecute us?

[@DennisRay99]

Your point?

[@DennisRay99]

@Andrew Gustafson Let's say you see a woman being raped. Do you concentrate on blessing and loving the rapist? Or do you go into action and do what it takes to stop the rape?

[@dennykeaton9701]

How is that relevant to this situation?

[@mkeating5111]

Um, I hate to point out the obvious, but there were plenty of false religions in the world during the first century and not a word in the Bible about Jesus or His followers opposing their construction.

[@claytonsanderson3359]

You have misunderstood what Russell Moore has engaged in, and his disingenuous answer here simply does not help. Jesus and his followers did not picket the construction of temples to the emperor cult. There is no text that says that "Disciples of Christ should vehemently oppose and legally block the construction of any place of worship not directed to the one true God." However, the issue is not about SBC churches opposing Mosques. Russell Moore has aligned every SBC church that supports the ERLC through the Cooperative Program (and the IMB) on an amicus (which is a legal document where someone legally represents another person or entity) to legally construct a mosque in the Bernards Township of New Jersey. Russell Moore's answer seems pious, but no Baptist that I know of was opposing this Mosque in New Jersey from being built. Russell Moore is actually being complicit in the building of this mosque. If you really wanted to be accurate in your "obvious", yet completely missing the point point, you would say the following. "There were plenty of false religions in the world during the first century, and if Russell Moore had been leading the political arm of the Christian movement, he would have helped Caesar build his temple, because maybe encouraging someone in sin would ensure comfort for poor persecuted Christians, and who knows, maybe someone would see a Christian helping the idolatry and be impressed."

[@DennisRay99]

You're response has nothing to do with anything. I'll give you an A plus for the most irrelevant comment though

[@dennykeaton9701]

Nor were they aiding their construction.

[@mbatley]

So my question is who is going to disciple Pastor Waford (sp?) and explain to him that our struggle is not against flesh and blood (Eph 6:12), and "those people" are the very ones we should be praying for, and loving, and seeking to establish "neighbor" relationships with? How else do you think the Gospel gets heard? If we are going to be "witnesses" we have to get close enough in loving relationship to have meaningful, respectful conversations and dialogue. And, Dr. Moore, great answer!

[@TheBeeFarm]

Of course we do... but building a temple to a false god is not part of that program.

[@mbatley]

John, listen to the question... the messenger ask about supporting the "rights" of Muslims in the US to build mosques. Not building them for them.

[@michaelward3208]

Great answer if you care about “...what it means to be a baptist...”. If you care what it means to be a Jesus follower you don’t incite the crowd against one of your own. Russ called the crowd to release Barabbas(SBC ego) the questioner wanted to release Jesus.

[@DennisRay99]

And Russ aka Eddie Munster that was a terrible answer

[@Wraiths_and_Wreckage]

The number of Christians who oppose freedom of religion in this comment section is frightening.

[@rockcollins132]

Are you a Christian?

[@Wraiths_and_Wreckage]

+Rock Collins yes

[@Wraiths_and_Wreckage]

lol

[@Wraiths_and_Wreckage]

"want to see Baal worship advanced" oh brother. I don't know if you know this or not, but we are not ancient Israel. And you are not Elijah. We have the great commission. Our job is to be salt and light in the world. Do your job and God will do his. The early church was surrounded by idols and paganism. Not one verse to be found that the job of the Christian was to go around tearing down the idols. But they preached, and the Spirit worked, and people turned to Christ. Do not concern yourself with mosques. Concern yourself with reaching the people in them with the love of Christ.

[@DennisRay99]

@@Wraiths_and_Wreckage Throughout history when Christianity and Islam occupy the same country the country ends up becoming Islamic. This situation will be no different.

[@johnlacarter4796]

Spot on. Well articulated, Dr. Moore.

[@TheBeeFarm]

SBC has lots its collective mind in a pragmatic swamp of human reason.

[@adr788]

The only question that remains to be asked and answered is: Will SBC funds be used to defend the building of this Muslim house of worship? It is one thing to defend a constitutional right.....another to fund the building of a place of worship for a religion that contradicts and is even hostile towards the Gospel. SBC .....any response?

[@DennisRay99]

Yes they wasted money on legal fees helping to ensure the mosque was built

[@dennykeaton9701]

They spent a lot of money on legal fees for the Mosque building in the US. It's not like Saudi Arabia isn't giving them enough money. Russ Moore wants tithes from Baptist to go to them also. A very dangerous man.

[@James_Hough]

Government power to shut down one religion is government power to shut down them all. Do battle with Muslims based upon their false religion, not their freedom of worship. I suppose if you don't believe in the power of Christ to change people, you have to block other religions from having the same freedoms we do. I believe in the power of Christ, so I am not interested in using the government to shut other people up.

[@MrMikeyPayne]

James, are you an anarchist who wants no civil governement? That would be wicked, as God appoints "Ministers of Justice" to punish evil doers. Who defines evil? 435 men or 100 men in DC? 9 men in a court room? You? Me? ... or God? You see, every law ever enforced is imposing someones religion (values, assumptions, beliefs) on someone else. Even a stop sign is forcing religious views about the value of property and life. Inescapable. Every one of the millions and millions of laws, regulations, procedures, are impositions of morality, or procedural to a moral ethical view. Imagine if I use your logic with man/boy perversion groups that are starting to make political assertions for "equality". Do you say, "Government power to shut down perverts to gather vouluntarily is government power to shut down Christians to gather. Do battle with perverts based upon their false religion (every man is equally religious and operates on his religious assumptions Romans 1), not their freedom of worship (perversion). I suppose if you don't believe in the power of Christ to change perverts, you have to block other beliefs about sex (read religious view) from having the same freedoms we do. I believe in the power of Christ, so I am not interested in using the government to shut other people up." James, If you believed in the power of Christ, you would believe the great commission's demand to disciple nations to obey God's commands. Also, if I am a Christian and a father, Elder, or Business man, by what standard do I govern my little sphere - governement? God's Law or human autonomy? What seems right? Well, if I must love my wife in the home, undershepherd the flock of God under my care, hate false balances as a business man. What do I do as a civil ruler? Enforce Stalin's ethics? Hitler's ethics? DC's ethics? Where are all the Christian law enforcement when the state is persecuting Christians, CPS is kidnapping children, men are being caged for crime, rather than making restitution? I will tell you where they are, serving as ghestapo for tyranny because while their hearst love Jesus, their minds are captive to another religion, humanism. America had no police or prisons for over 200 years. If I rob you today of a lot, I will get a slap or nothing, and you will get nothing. If I rob the state I will dos ome hard time. However, is this justice? No. Justice would require me to pay you or the state back two fold. Eye for eye. I take a $100 from you, I pay you back your hundred, and I have the same violence I intended for you done to me, so anoth $100 goes out of my pocket. Sir, some men promote the power religion of the state, other promote the escapist religion of I'll fly away or a mythical rapture will get me outa here. Then there is godly dominion; where, a man is given a sphere of responsibility and he tends and keeps it for Christ the master who will come and ask an account of our stewardship. I pray Muslims kiss the son, but I pray the Chruch finds the details off 2Chron 7:14 and understand the application of Deut 28. The chapter of the Bible that presidents once had opened when they swore their oath. God resists the proud and gives grace to the humble. May you and I find repentance for any and all thoughts that are not captive to Christ. At your service, for Christ's sake.

[@James_Hough]

+Michael Payne In 1789 when the Constitution was ratified with the Bill of Rights, Islam had been in existence for hundreds of years, but yet was not excluded from the protections of religious liberty. Government rightly punishes criminals for their crimes, not people who worship freely as they are allowed to do in this country. To seek to have the government oppress a people because of their religious ignores the Constitution and is, indeed, lawless. Counter the lies of Islam with the Truth of Christ and limit violence to those who actually carry out violence. What Muslims who are not actively seeking to harm us need is Christ, not discrimination.

[@mrssalina]

Denying the building of the Mosque in a 9-11 related location is not oppressing Muslims.

[@mrssalina]

No religion gets to build their stuff wherever they want - this was not a ban on Mosque construction but rather not allowing in a certain location due to 9-11. That is far different that a general ban which would violate the Constitution.

[@DennisRay99]

You do realize Turkey, Syria ect were Christian nations before the Muslims came. Why did they go 99 percent Muslim? You imagine converting them to Christianity when history shows the opposite. Use your God given brain

[@Josh-on-journey]

Amen

[@mylesschutte6257]

very thankful for Dr. Moore

[@DennisRay99]

And I'm the opposite of thankful

[@dennykeaton9701]

😅😂😅

[@DavidLeeNCSU]

Amen Dr. Moore.

[@dennykeaton9701]

🤡

[@jimscaggs2422]

hummm what ever happened to render to ceaser that which is ceaser's and to God that which is God's? Why even bring up this issue at all? It goes with out saying they have a right to worship Allah. But 2nd John is very clear, If anyone brings to you another gospel that denies Jesus don't even wish him a good day or let them in your house.His answer was a two step and very short here is what he said in my opinion, shut up and sit down you understand nothing.I left the SBC years ago I saw the liberal infiltration and now it appears assimilation is complete. Sad very Sad.

[@brettcody76]

You are sadly conflating things. Moore was right on this.

[@michaelward3208]

Moore was right. Agreed. He said, “...what it means to be a baptist...” Truer words were never spoken. You all keep on being your baptist selves. When Jesus asks them, “Did I know you?” Keep answer “Well, I was a baptist” Not good enough.

[@dennykeaton9701]

​@@brettcody76 Actually he was wrong.

[@mrssalina]

No you don't have right to construct a Mosque anywhere you want. 9-11 was a legitimate reason to not permit the building in this location.

[@cueoneful]

Russell Moore can take credit for destroying The SBC....!!

[@barbaraevans8888]

OK. I get it. We have lost our country and we have lost our church leaders. It's not like I didn't already know that.

[@tmo4330]

do you try to please man or do you try to please God? you cant do both

[@CBALLEN]

How about Southern Baptist Calvinists,do you support them too

[@amarcus2007]

you mean like JD Greear, Mark Dever, Albert Mohler, and others?

[@1Atomtan]

No. Mohler's blog on the Confederate flag issue was also full of pandering and half truths.

[@CBALLEN]

Alex Marcus Yes.You know what's so crazy? The first Southern Baptists were all Calvinists.Just read the 1689 Baptist Confession of faith,it's completely reformed in it's doctrine.Most of the Southern Baptists today,pretty much are 4 point Arminian.So Arminianism is the ''new"idea,not the reformed doctrine.

[@1Atomtan]

Thing is, if Molher and others can give Calvin a break for being OK with folks being burned alive they should be able to give Confederate slave owners who were the reason some slaves were saved the same break for being men of their times. Joining with Islam while condemning Confederates who were mostly Christians seems to show this lot for what they are.

[@CBALLEN]

1Atomtan Calvin never killed anyone.You Arminians have spread this lie everywhere,yet it still is not true.Reformed people understand the Bible,Calvin understood the Bible,where it teaches about God,Man,and the Gospel ,but he still got some side issues wrong,(such as baby baptism and theonomy).The truth of the matter is,Baptists used to be reformed,read the 1689 confession of faith,the Southern Baptist convention was created by reformed Baptists and it was only recently taken over by the RCC doctrine of Arminianism.So no one is TRYING to bring some NEW doctrine into the convention by reformers,they were the first,it's the Arminians who are trying to teach another gospel and it's Arminiansim that needs to be defeated.

[@stangross6761]

slick talker

[@michaelward3208]

And that is all he is, a corporate nan. Notice his opening line, “...what it means to be a baptist...” Apparently it means to do the opposite of Jesus. Russ made that guy look like a fool and garnered the cheers of the fans. I bet Russ’ ego meter pinned at the roar. Joseph Giebels would be proud.

[@LarryFarlow]

Good example of why many people have a problem with Russell Moore. He pontificates and is condescending in his response. He doesn't have the courtesy to address the questioner directly - guess he's a backwoods Elmer Gantry type who doesn't deserve such attention from on high. I think his response is correct, by the way, mostly, but the fact he cannot give it without this superior demeanor is why he rubs people the wrong way. So, if there's division now within the SBC where he's concerned let's recognize if it didn't begin with him it was certainly exacerbated by him.

[@skrich2]

Larry Farlow Isn't this also a great example of confusing the relationship between the Gospel and personal politics, on the part of the questioner? I take your point about him being admonishing, but shouldn't sbc leadership admonish pastors who are hostile to those they should be seeking to call into faith with Christ? Jesus was extremely hostile to the Pharisees who had no compassion for those who were in need of a savior. If Moore had taken this tone against someone who asked about biblical errancy in such a hostile manner, we would all be celebrating him. Why not for admonishing this kind of question?

[@DennisRay99]

@@skrich2 Basically because Moore is a liberal idiot.

[@dennykeaton9701]

Yes, Eddie Munster does have that effect on people

[@mrssalina]

The leadership of the SBC needs to be thrown out.

[@LukeoXx]

Now this could stand to be repeated.

[@dennykeaton9701]

Not really

[@dennisrichardson9831]

Russell Moore is just another reason why I have not been a Southern Baptist for near three decades.

[@Brentontheone]

Dennis Richardson well it's time to change your thinking are you a Christian do you believe in Jesus Christ

[@MrMikeyPayne]

Mr Moore is a religious pluralist. Christians were not raped and eaten by lions, or turned into candle sticks by Nero for saying Jesus. All they had to do was acknowledge that Christianity was one of many faiths under the Lordship of Caesar, and all would have been good. But they responded to the call that Caesar is Lord with Jesus is Lord, and in that pluralistic society with the one "true' god, Caesar, atheism was the charge. Mr Moore forgets that the state is one of God's ministers. The minister of Justice, to punish evil doers. However, Mr Moore's denial of the rule of Christ over his ministers is only a reflection of Mr Moore's denial of King Jesus' right to rule. He rules anyways, but Mr Moore leads God's people to chastisement, through God's displeasure.

[@bruceclounie3716]

He neither acknowledged that Islam is the truth, nor that Christianity was under any ruler. If you mean "harmonious co-existence between adherents of different religions" then sure. Warring or persecuting others in the name of Christ doesn't tend to bring many to Christ, funnily enough.

[@MrMikeyPayne]

Sir, who said a muslim's salvation is the primary goal of the Christian? That would be humanism, not Christianity. The goal of Christianity is the glory of God! This includes the proclamation to repent and believe the gospel; however, Christ also is the King or kings, Lord of lords, Governor of the Nations, and all the rulers of every government (Self, Family, Church, and Civil) must kiss the son, and obey Him. How do you attract Muslims? Well, how about Justice, judgment, and righteous conduct. They will say, what individual, family, church, and nation has such just laws. The great commission commands us to disciple nations to obey God's Law. Thus the civil magistrate, God's "Minister of Justice", has an obligation to do justice and judgment in accord with God's Law Word. Christ is not interested in a spot in Caesars pantheon along side Mars, Athena, Islam, or any other false God. The Christians only had to be pluralists 2000 years ago, like Dr Moore, and persecution would not have happened. However, when the Christians declared their is another King, one Jesus, and to your decree of Kaiser Curios (Caesar is Lord) we the followers of King Jesus say, Jesu Cristo Curios (Jesus Christ is Lord). They were rounded up as "atheists", raped and eaten by beasts, or turned into candlesticks for Nero's BBQs. Mr Moore is so scared the state might persecute us, so he defends pagan temples to pagan God's. No Dr. Moore's Christianity will never suffer persecution, because it is not biblical, it is cheerleader for the state. His ethics are not governed by His king, but by his belly. Harsh, yes. My heart breaks, but these men, ,maybe well intentioned, certainly intellectually brilliant, are not ruled by Christ, they are humanists, leading the people of God back to Egypt. The result will be death in the desert for us and our children. However, if we actually heed the instruction of God, He may yet heal our land. Bruce, please consider this: If I am a Christian, and you are a Christian, we had better be sharpening each other. I am so willing to drop every false view I hold if convinced from Scripture, and I pray you are the same. That God's Word is precious too you, and you are willing to cast false views to the dung pile where they belong. Prov 18:13. Look at the logic posited by James Hough below: "Government power to shut down one religion is government power to shut down them all." This is insanity. What you and he fail to see is that every law ever given, written, enforced, is an imposition of religion (belief). He goes on to say: " I suppose if you don't believe in the power of Christ to change people, you have to block other religions from having the same freedoms we do. " First, I do not have the right to worship my imagination, that is idolatry. Can you imagine James making Laws. We can't stop Man/Boy Love groups from their voluntary associations, because the state might step in and stop us Christians from getting together. No, you may not do perversion, even if you believe in it, we are going to impose on you, and we are still going to worship God on the Lord's day. God resists the proud, and gives grace to the humble. I pray you and I get grace. For that matter, I pray for God's grace on every Muslim. I have lived among them in Asia, and I have evangelized them there, and here. The real issue on the table is by what standard does the "civil government" rule. If you declare God's Law is unjust or tyranical, I would not want to be you. If you posit any alternative, you join the ranks of every other assorted ethical rebel as a covenant breaker. I am at your service, for Christ's sake.

[@MrMikeyPayne]

However, Christians must choose Christian rulers - in deed not just, I love Jesus. He is saying that the Christian ruler must countenance Mosques. COEXIST is a fairy tale. Every religious system must be hostile to all other religious views or it is consumed by its adversary. It just so happens that Christianity in its hostility toward Hindu practice of killing the wife at the husbands death is a blessing to Hindu women. Christianity does not allow theft from Muslims. But Islam does the opposite. We will have laws, and they will be Christian, or they will be humanistic. You are a pluralist, so your law code will be humanistic, and it will consume Christianity, of course, you will likely accommodate yourself and persecution will not find you. Tolerance is always used by a lesser power, to gain ascendancy and become the new intolerance. Modern Christendom has been infiltrated by bad theology and escapism. This suits those in the power religion of the state. Christianity severely limits the sates powers. America did not happen in a vacuum. There are always the city of man and the city of God in conflict; however, just as cowardice was on the deck of Titanic, Christianity won the day and that is why ten men died for every women and the wealthiest man on earth died in the icy waters while a third class washer woman lived. Not so in Asia when a ferry goes down. The women are the first to die. IN America, the Puritan ethic and the capital they built is what made America blessed of God. The sins of our fathers have led us to the point where Christians are defending sodomites, and Muslim mosques in our land. My heart breaks for sexual perverts and idolaters, and I pray God will convert them or blow them away like the chaff. The modern Christian view is effeminate like a little girl with her teddy bear. Repent and read Unconditional Surrender - Gary North.

[@skrich2]

Moore isn't a religious pluralist. Anyone who reads his work will see that is false. Moore would not say that Christianity is under any lordship other than the Triune God of the Universe as revealed by the scriptures. Moore doesn't forget Romans 13, but he remembered that Paul didn't think that the Roman ruler was Christian when Paul wrote it. The wild and unsubstantiated assertions that you make have no part in civil discourse, let alone Christian charity. Love your enemies in repentance.

[@dennykeaton9701]

​@@skrich2 I read as you instructed. He is definitely a woke leftist for sure.

[@gatoradesalesman309]

Better Title "Dr Moore-On Islam"

[@KJBpreacher]

I was there for this and it was one of the reasons I left the convention. This is how liberalism works its way in. Using the gospel to defend the liberal viewpoint making the other side not be able to answer out of fear of how it will look (because they don’t know how to answer

[@MrAntiOrdinary]

Please correct me, but I think you mean that the gospel can be twisted to defend liberalism. I don’t think the gospel can be used rightly to defend any lie. If we agree on that, please help me understand your comment because I’m having a hard time finding/hearing where Dr. Moore, in this clip, defended liberalism or twisted/distorted the gospel in any way.

[@scottstansell8021]

We haven’t missed you at all since you left. So there’s that, I guess.

[@dennykeaton9701]

​@scottstansell8021 True we haven't missed Russell Moore since he left. So there's that I guess.

[@LLSUPPLY]

Moore's response was once of haughtiness and arrogance.

[@deehoward7812]

Moore's response was one that leads people back to the foundation of the church (Jesus). Jesus did not die and rise again for people to become Muslim, Baptist or Catholic. He died and rose again so those who believe in Him can have their sins taken away and be given eternal life. There is no Baptist or Muslim religion outlined in the New Testament. There is only those who believe and those who don't. What the gentleman from Arkansas failed to also mention is how the Baptist church also excluded Blacks, advanced the cause of slavery and segregation and many were led by preachers who also posed as Klansman when they were not conducting church services. There is no Baptist in Heaven or Hell. To label, all Muslims as the terrorist is the same as labeling all Baptist as confederate loving, cross burning, a segregationist who would rather side with laws that go against Jesus teaching than those who should be known for the love they have for their fellow man.

[@mrblujet]

@@deehoward7812 And Muslims don't believe Jesus Christ was the son of man and the son of God, and therefore don't believe that Jesus died for our sins. You kind of overlooked that point. You need to study up.

[@michaelward3208]

His response was “...what it means to be a baptist....” and then he makes a fool of his own. To the cheers of the crowd. The questioner wanted Jesus, Russ lead the crowd to get Barabbas(SBC) and the crucifix toon of the pastor took place to the cheers of the SNC leadership. I love this video. It clearly shows Russ’ allegiance to his ego and the SBC, not to Jesus who would not treat thus man with such blatant disrespect. Thanks fir showing your true colors SBC. You should take all $4M of your budget to get this video destroyed! The mask came off.

[@dennykeaton9701]

Amen

[@dennykeaton9701]

​@@deehoward7812 Bizarre attempt at a comeback.

[@the_homeport]

Wolf.

[@Brenda0312F]

I agree with his principle. I believe We SHOULD be teaching Christ to them. BUT...God set up borders for a reason...and He ALSO tells us NOT to have anything to do with those who claim to be followers of God ( they call him Allah) but deny Christ...like the Muslim religion does. . I believe those who are called to bring Christ to the Muslim Nation should GO TO THE MUSLIM NATIONS and do it. But even Gods words warns us...A HOUSE DIVIDED AGAINST ITSELF WILL NOT STAND....and when you allow ANTI Christian religions to flood into our MOSTLY Christian Nation....Gods principle WILL apply then as well. God does NOT contradict Himself. Like this appears to do...

[@123misterme1]

I was at this convention and didn’t like Moore’s arrogant response to this question. I believe it revealed some things about his character.

[@michaelward3208]

Thank you thank you than you. It was like a Nazi Rally. “...what it means to be a baptist..” Fine. It looks like if you are an SBC follower you can ignore the example of Jesus.

[@dennykeaton9701]

Definitely did

[@barbaraevans8888]

I can not believe you are taking money out of the chruches and building mosques. There is a lot of ways to help others but this is not one of them. When Christ came the first time He wasThe Lamb. When He cames The second time He will be The Lion. Don't forget '' I Am '' is a jealous God. Are you for a one world religion also ?

[@skrich2]

Barbara Evans Moore isn't taking money out of churches to build mosques. He is protecting the first amendment, as it keeps Christian Evangelism legal in America. Russell Moore doesn't want anyone to be Muslim, but realizes that only by God's work does anyone become Christian.

[@dennykeaton9701]

​@@skrich2 Actually he did. He has since been fired from the SBC.

[@Habitt5253]

If you can discriminate against someone for their religion then I too can discriminate against you for your religion. Whats good for the goose, christians.

[@dennykeaton9701]

Says the Islamist.

[@richardfry2906]

Dr Moore's response shows us that he is an arrogant elitist who holds ordinary people in utter contempt.

[@barbaraevans8888]

Moore, we are in the last days and you are too blind to see it. Jesus said it would be this way

[@sloanchampion85]

I don't know what to say to you moore,slapping southerners in the face,

[@rustycostner186]

He is dead wrong. We don’t depend on the government to spread the gospel. ( but evidently he does). SBC is just a woke political group now.

[@nathanielbrown4577]

Jesus' kingdom is not of this world. The corruption and oppression of any government has zero impact on the Kingdom of Christ. Pastors should stick to the Gospel and keep their noses out of politics. The question from the Pastor from Arkansas was not answered but rather avoided in true politician fashion, sadly to the applause of an ignorant crowd.

[@dennykeaton9701]

Extremely ignorant crowd.

[@LHWNetwork]

SO WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!