Dr Who-Dimensions in Time COMPLETE

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John Fedorenko

John Fedorenko

Күн бұрын

The notoriously bad 1993 children in need special made to celebrate Dr Who's thirtieth anniversary complete in one part for the first time on youtube! This will never be released on DVD so enjoy! Starring Jon Pertwee, Tom Baker, Peter Davison, Colin Baker, Sylvester McCoy, Carole Ann Ford, Deborah Watling, Wendy Padbury, Nicholas Courtney, Richard Franklin, Caroline John, Elisabeth Sladen, Louise Jameson, John Leeson, Sarah Sutton, Nicola Bryant, Bonnie Langford, Sophie Aldred, Kate O' Mara and the floating heads of William Hartnell and Patrick Troughton!

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@CaptEoNinja83
@CaptEoNinja83 11 жыл бұрын
In this amazing special, we see all the surviving Classic Doctors and most all of the companions, we see the 6th Doctor and the Brigadier on screen for the only time ever, we see Liz Shaw rush the Rani to save the 3rd Doctor!! This special is like a theme park live action show, don't ruin it by asking questions on whether it's good or not, just watch the awesome!
@SuperJimUK
@SuperJimUK 4 жыл бұрын
"Amazing"....
@rossmandell8734
@rossmandell8734 5 жыл бұрын
This was done as a fund raiser, and made very quickly and very inexpensively and as a simple bit of fun. To attack it as bad is to miss the point.
@stramayne
@stramayne 12 жыл бұрын
Despite the "uneveness"" of this special. It is just soo good to see what was to be the last appearence of many of these performers as their Doctor Who incarantions. I wish somehow some of the footage could be used in an offical adventure.
@josephchambers2000
@josephchambers2000 Жыл бұрын
Thus far, it’s proven itself to be the last official performances of Jon Pertwee as The Third Doctor Deborah Watling As Victoria Waterfield Caroline John As Liz Shaw And Kate O’Mara As The Rani
@trebormole
@trebormole 11 жыл бұрын
Anyone else watching from 1973
@jj-hb8rq
@jj-hb8rq 6 жыл бұрын
Me
@Polavianus
@Polavianus 5 жыл бұрын
Me
@WiloPolis03
@WiloPolis03 5 жыл бұрын
Me
@mikerainham
@mikerainham 5 жыл бұрын
It’s awful but getting that many of the actors together was some achievement.
@CrazyHorseTheSiouxW4rrior
@CrazyHorseTheSiouxW4rrior Жыл бұрын
5:00 im more concerned this scene doesn't make sense since the doctors granddaughter is a timelord herself and some how she she doesn't recognise her own grandfather or the fact that timelords can regenerate considering she already met the doctors future selves in "the five doctors" episode ?? 🤷🏾‍♂
@U2QuoZepplin
@U2QuoZepplin 6 жыл бұрын
And you rarely got to see 5 actually wearing his hat ! This really was an occasion !
@MondySpartan
@MondySpartan 7 жыл бұрын
This was Bonnie Langford’s first time visiting the Albert Square, several years later she would return to EastEnders as Carmel.
@haileyshannon7548
@haileyshannon7548 10 жыл бұрын
You could called this "The Doctor Who Holiday Special"!
@78shaweyes
@78shaweyes 7 жыл бұрын
This special has a lack of dalek
@haileyshannon7548
@haileyshannon7548 10 жыл бұрын
Is Tom in a computer screen saver!
@TheSixthDoctor
@TheSixthDoctor 13 жыл бұрын
"You're not the Doctor!" "Yes I am." "Allright then, take a look at this coat, ain't it nice?"
@tonybudgie8103
@tonybudgie8103 2 жыл бұрын
Fuck Off We're All Doctors
@hpandpotcfan
@hpandpotcfan 12 жыл бұрын
We all know this is what we really want for the 50th anniversary, a multi-Doctor, multi-companion story, but, well, better done :)
@mayotango1317
@mayotango1317 2 жыл бұрын
You must love the Chinball 60s aniversary?
@ZDProds-c8p
@ZDProds-c8p 2 жыл бұрын
@@mayotango1317 Every anniversary has been multi-doctor. Chibnall ain't bringing anything new
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 11 жыл бұрын
I myself acknowledged that the BBC never dug too terribly deep into its pocket; it shows in other programs they put on, sci-fi examples of which include "Blake's 7" and "Red Dwarf." This did not stop those shows from having cult followings just like DW. You are the one trollishly insisting upon something that simply is not true. DW was not on hiatus when "Dimensions in Time" was made. It had been canceled, axed, given the boot, and chucked.
@aaronsmith3774
@aaronsmith3774 11 жыл бұрын
It wasn't amazing but it wasn't bad either
@bloodorigin
@bloodorigin 12 жыл бұрын
This one makes me think... I can't wait to see what that have planed for the 50th anniversary doctor who, just to see how many of the past doctors will be in it. Hope to see Tom Baker and Peter Davison
@FreedSpiritProd
@FreedSpiritProd 12 жыл бұрын
I love the bit with Frank Butcher. This is totally worth a laugh every now and again. :)
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 12 жыл бұрын
The Rani's assistant Cyrian is played by Samuel West, who played King Caspian of Narnia in the T.V. version of "The Voyage of the Dawn Treader" and Victor Frankenstein in the movie "Van Helsing."
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 11 жыл бұрын
Trust me, nobody would care, and a hand-waving explanation would be more than satisfactory. I mean, folks looked at Pat Troughton's grey hair in "The Two Doctors" and just shrugged. Now, they could have the Doctor visit realities where his counterparts never regenerated. As for digital rejuventation, I don't know if even the FX department as it is now could afford to do that.
@meiray
@meiray 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention Lalla Ward, and she's the lynchpin of the bonkers climax!
@neptune04
@neptune04 3 жыл бұрын
wtf was she doing hiding in someone's garage?
@JDeolumen
@JDeolumen 11 жыл бұрын
It was part of a 3D experiment.. had to keep the camera moving to create the effect.. the best line .. "well I've seen them thrown out of The Vic......"..cheers
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 11 жыл бұрын
Shows with less than perfect FX, yes, because the fans are drawn in by the writing and the performances, thus obviating the daft notion that such shows are taken off T.V. for a stretch of decades until they can "do it better." No, I heard the truth, as you can hear it from the lips of JNT, Sylv, and Sophie if you watch "More Than 30 Years in the TARDIS," available on disc 3 of the 3-DVD set of "Shada." There's also the special "Endgame" on the DVD of "Survival."
@blofeld39
@blofeld39 12 жыл бұрын
"MADAM... WHAT YEAR IS THITH?!?" Yay, random overdramatizing! :-P
@rockltsd
@rockltsd 11 жыл бұрын
Its soooooo stupid its funny lol
@thejoechapman1
@thejoechapman1 11 жыл бұрын
Remember watching this at 7 years old wishing that they'd bring back Doctor who for the 50th anniversary, my dreams were made true, thankfully the standard is much better these days.
@geekymarianne
@geekymarianne 10 жыл бұрын
The use of 3D in the recent one was also much better :D stupid Pulfrich effect...
@Furzkampfbomber
@Furzkampfbomber 10 жыл бұрын
Diamond Song Yeah, to make the Pulfrich effect work, everything has to be in motion. Therefore everyone was constantly running or was standing in front of some ridiculously colourful and spinning background and why there are flying heads. xD
@eblackwell
@eblackwell 10 жыл бұрын
Did you watch any DW from before this? Just curious because you only compare this to New Who, nothing else.
@filledegypte
@filledegypte 10 жыл бұрын
EK Blackwell Classic Doctor Who is much, much better than this ... thing. You should definitly give it a go ;)
@saderin
@saderin 12 жыл бұрын
hey you got your Doctor who in my Eastenders ! Hey you got your Eastenders in my Doctor Who ! :D
@thesnakeman8006
@thesnakeman8006 Жыл бұрын
Probably THE ONLY special i wish was available on home media (whether it's here in the states or over there in the uk) also, I hope they make a sequel of sorts to this someday. Could you imagine doctors four, five,six, seven, eight,ten, eleven, thirteen, and even the fifteenth doctor appearing on the small screen together for the first time along with their respective companions? (Although thinking about it now I'm not sure if christopher eccelston or peter capaldi would want to return as doctors nine and twelve......but,hey a fan can dream can't he?)
@doctordimension020
@doctordimension020 7 жыл бұрын
The Rani has a companion omg lol
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 11 жыл бұрын
Hartnell was only recast because he was dead. In cases like this, the fans don't care that the actors look older; it's awesome just to have them back.
@U2QuoZepplin
@U2QuoZepplin 6 жыл бұрын
A proud notch on Samuel West’s CV no doubt! Doctor 👩‍⚕️ Who and Kate O’Mara as well.
@raw5742
@raw5742 6 жыл бұрын
Kathy aged much better in reality though
@miketv7172
@miketv7172 5 жыл бұрын
11.32 the BBC disrespect Colin Baker
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 11 жыл бұрын
"Bottomless bank account?" Nobody at the Beeb has ever had one of those!
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 11 жыл бұрын
Bite your typing fingers! The acting was great, because these people were and are great actors.
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 11 жыл бұрын
Oh, the documentary is real enough, and a lot of Classic Series fans are looking forward to that more than to the actual 50th anniversary show. Having said that, it would indeed be cool to have David Bradley turn up on the show as the First Doctor!
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 11 жыл бұрын
It was the original series with its expert writing and superlative performances that kept the fans watching for twenty-six years. The effects were, in many cases, very innovative, and fans did not obsess over them. I was referring to the classic series, obviously. As for the new series, there have been things less than 100% effective; the Raxacoricofallapatorians, for instance. But there's an inversion now: great effects and lousy writing.
@Paul_1971
@Paul_1971 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree - would rather have good writing & rough around the edges effects than all flash & no substance.
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 2 жыл бұрын
@@Paul_1971 _Star Trek_ and _Lost in Space_ fit that description as well! Lots of great stories and memorable characters.
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 11 жыл бұрын
Ah, nothing like a civilized comeback. And that was nothing like a civilized comeback.
@SenseiSixString
@SenseiSixString 12 жыл бұрын
I kinda like this version of the theme song. Makes me want to go club hopping with Daleks.
@TimeForTeletubbiesFAN
@TimeForTeletubbiesFAN 9 жыл бұрын
I would love for this to be released on DVD. I would like real time, death comes to time and shada (animated version) to be released on DVD. also I would like for the crusade episodes 2 and 4 animated for a DVD release, mission to the unknown the whole episode animated and episode 3 of the web of fear with animation. hopefully the underwater menace in going to be released this year to.... the BBC said they would with episodes 1 and 4 animated. fingers crossed.
@Imrathan
@Imrathan 8 жыл бұрын
And it never happened :/
@TimeForTeletubbiesFAN
@TimeForTeletubbiesFAN 8 жыл бұрын
+Imrathan yep and the underwater menace got crappy reconstruction
@Imrathan
@Imrathan 8 жыл бұрын
It's a shame because it's a really good story. Hopefully one day we get a special edition.
@TimeForTeletubbiesFAN
@TimeForTeletubbiesFAN 8 жыл бұрын
+Imrathan I don't think so unless episode 1 & 4 are found
@peterward2275
@peterward2275 3 жыл бұрын
In the days before the Cutty Sark disaster!
@RisewingIndustries
@RisewingIndustries 11 жыл бұрын
To let people watching this know... the Classic Series was never this bad just watch a Tom Baker serial
@CoconutMigrationCommittee
@CoconutMigrationCommittee 2 жыл бұрын
Or one of the few Patrick Troughton serials
@nakyer
@nakyer 11 жыл бұрын
You do realize that even officially published stories can leave out details, don't you? Comments on a DVD? Oh please...
@jagoandlitefoot
@jagoandlitefoot 11 жыл бұрын
Oh god... With the news today that the 50th Anniversary special will be in 3-D, I can only hope that the BBC learned from when they made this...
@katakisLives
@katakisLives Жыл бұрын
From what I can remember the 3D effect was pretty good. Unfortunately you literally have to have one of the original pairs of 3D glasses to make it work because they weren't the typical red and green 3D glasses
@AllThingsAlex
@AllThingsAlex 11 жыл бұрын
Still have the Radio times from 1993.. & the 3D specs. Hell yeh :D
@nakyer
@nakyer 11 жыл бұрын
I meant "even the current series"? Because it was the earlier series and its bad effects (compared to what you'd see in productions with bigger budgets) that was said to have led to the hiatus. "We can't go on doing this the way we are. It's laughable and other movies and shows are making us look worse than a puppet show." Are you saying that the current version of Doctor Who is world-famous for "dodgy special effects"?
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 12 жыл бұрын
10:26 Leela rocking the Shobogan threads!
@gastronomist
@gastronomist 11 жыл бұрын
Inspector Spacetime should do a special like this one.
@FishpondsLady
@FishpondsLady 5 жыл бұрын
Funny about how people get worked up about the special effects. It was the 1970s and the budget was very small! My daughter (who's still only 15) used to be like "But I love the bubble wrap monsters, Mummy!" - when we watched old Jon Pertwee episodes on VHS. She then got scared of it because of the Ood, and only returned recently because she has a thing for Peter Capaldi. But in my mind, the rubbish special effects were what made Dr Who. That and the great acting. X to all.
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 11 жыл бұрын
Even now; ask anyone who's seen the classic series.
@josephchambers2000
@josephchambers2000 Жыл бұрын
We need to bring Rani back in the modern series, because if nothing else, I refuse to have this as her last on screen appearance. She is a better character then this.
@nakyer
@nakyer 11 жыл бұрын
That's nice. Now stop being picky and get the point I was making, or is that beyond you? Would you rather I'd said "Blue Peter"?
@somebody1234567891
@somebody1234567891 5 жыл бұрын
I want a follow up special that reveals that the origin of The Rani is really a human girl from Earth's early 21st century who accidentally transforms herself into a Time Lord and regenerates into an evil incarnation before being saved by her friends Clyde and Luke
@nakyer
@nakyer 11 жыл бұрын
I never attacked the original series. What I meant was it's been said the decision was made to "rest" the show until it could be done with good special effects on their budget (like other productions were being done with). Notice when it got to the point even people with home computers could do videos with really good special effects that DW returned? (Which was an excellent choice on the part of the Beeb.) As for the writing... I dunno. I take what I can get. I like Doctor Who.
@2001davebowman
@2001davebowman 11 жыл бұрын
Do you know what: this wasn't as bad as I thought. Haven't seen it since 1993. That's... beeping beep... 20 years ago! Argh!
@secretkid1239
@secretkid1239 4 жыл бұрын
Love Eastenders. Love doctor who. How did I not know this video existed.
@geoffolehane
@geoffolehane 5 жыл бұрын
I mean it is flawed but still a whole lot of fun.
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 11 жыл бұрын
Not a bad attempt at anything; it was a reference to the charity for which this raised money.
@amyclarke41
@amyclarke41 6 жыл бұрын
Rani was excelelnt missy seems pale in comparison
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 11 жыл бұрын
Pointing out a mistake is scarcely being picky; on the contrary, it's educational. As for dodgy special effects, DW is world-famous for them.
@nakyer
@nakyer 11 жыл бұрын
Cancelled as in "will never be seen again" or as in "until we can do it better"?
@psirus1979
@psirus1979 12 жыл бұрын
As a long time who fan, that was painful to watch back then. Its not better now, such a great chance wasted. Great to see people who aren't with us anymore. It always good to watch and realise how much the BBC didn't care about doctor who back then. Its terrible but I can't help watching it once in a while. So bad it might be good
@luisbravo31
@luisbravo31 10 жыл бұрын
2013? Wait, the doctor is watching himself?
@CadenRolland
@CadenRolland 11 жыл бұрын
Sadly Sarah Jane never really made it to 2013.
@TimeForTeletubbiesFAN
@TimeForTeletubbiesFAN 9 жыл бұрын
also the mind robber (special edition) and the two doctors (special edition)
@lewisog08revell24
@lewisog08revell24 5 жыл бұрын
I was dying to go to Albert Square
@brandoman79
@brandoman79 12 жыл бұрын
that's what I thought, but I know in the Five Doctor's special Susan only refer's to the 1st Doctor as Grandfather and doesn't call 5th, 3rd or 2nd Doctor's grandfather, she refers to them as Doctor like any other companion would
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 11 жыл бұрын
Then you need to start questioning your sources. Look up the recollections of Sylvester McCoy, Sophie Aldred, and John Nathan-Turner. The show was cancelled.
@genisisarc
@genisisarc 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Carmel Kazemi traveled with the Doctor 😂
@darrenclements
@darrenclements 6 жыл бұрын
If I recall well this was meant to be watched with 3d glasses for maximum effect :)
@katakisLives
@katakisLives Жыл бұрын
The whole point of this was the 3D effect.
@paulmartland1958
@paulmartland1958 12 жыл бұрын
This was originally broadcast in an experimental 3D TV format hence all the flying computer graphic shapes
@LoriCiani
@LoriCiani 12 жыл бұрын
I think the main reason the BBC did this was because they had some new tech they wanted to play with. I remember that this was filmed in 3D and you got the specs as a free gift in that week's Radio Times. The swirling camera action was to take advantage of the added depth that movement in a certain direction gave the film. This is what happens when effects and tech have a priority over script and acting.
@katakisLives
@katakisLives Жыл бұрын
It was the first time I'd ever seen true moving 3D and it was really well done. I wish it hadn't been a one off.
@johnbanks4761
@johnbanks4761 9 жыл бұрын
thanks for this, just wish it was better quality pic
@melissagerber7231
@melissagerber7231 10 жыл бұрын
Camille Coduri's credits didn't include this, so, no, the woman at 4:27 didn't play Rosé Tyler's mum. Jackie Tyler was evidently a caricature of a specific type in London, though
@TimMoore1
@TimMoore1 10 жыл бұрын
The late Wendy Richard playing Pauline Fowler from Eastenders.
@vampricyoda
@vampricyoda 9 жыл бұрын
Actually it is. This wouldn't show up in her credits because this wasn't "Doctor Who" this was a cross over with a show called "EastEnders" So, Camile Coduri's credit for "EastEnders" counts as this. Thought she's playing a completely different character. But headcanon's and all that.
@melissagerber7231
@melissagerber7231 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that information.
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 11 жыл бұрын
"It's laughable and other movies and shows are making us look worse than a puppet show." That could be construed as an attack. I didn't say anything that the folks at DW haven't said; I also said many of them were very innovative. A lot of them were impressive when you take into account the budget, or lack of. I advise you to find the three-DVD set of "Shada." It contains the special "More Than 30 Years in the TARDIS," in which Sylv and Sophie share their memories of the cancellation.
@peterward2275
@peterward2275 3 жыл бұрын
I still have my 3D glasses
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 11 жыл бұрын
Five if you count Paul McGann, as most do.
@brandoman79
@brandoman79 12 жыл бұрын
Susan raises an interesting question in this charity special, when she tells Colin Baker's Doctor I want my Doctor where's grandfather. When the Doctor regenerates does he totally become a new person that past family ties are cut? For instance when River Song meets David Tennant's Doctor she doesn't refer to him as her husband. (the meeting is the 1st time that the Doctor meets River but the final time River is with the Doctor) She only refer's to Matt Smith's Doctor as her husband
@Jon19p
@Jon19p 11 жыл бұрын
PERTWEE WAS RLLY OLD
@nickvandam1214
@nickvandam1214 4 жыл бұрын
He died just a few years later, but he loved the fans and continued to be a fantastic Doctor.
@nakyer
@nakyer 11 жыл бұрын
How do you know there wasn't more to the story than what you heard?
@jgrisso07
@jgrisso07 11 жыл бұрын
She'd have been perfect to have for the 50th :-(
@nakyer
@nakyer 11 жыл бұрын
I attacked nothing. You yourself said the effects weren't done well. Did YOU attack them? I, by the way, AM a "classic Whovian", having first "met" the third Doctor. I've been on board ever since. As for what the series being "cancelled" really was or what it meant, I know what I've been told. Surprised you hadn't heard the same things.
@antonydandrea
@antonydandrea 11 жыл бұрын
Still more previous actors and doctors appearing than in the 50th.....
@LordZontar
@LordZontar 12 жыл бұрын
"Dementia In Time".
@Monkofmagnesia
@Monkofmagnesia 12 жыл бұрын
Put on your 3-D glasses!!!!
@michaelwilliams2956
@michaelwilliams2956 10 жыл бұрын
The execution was terrible, but I love the idea, sounds like something out of a fanfic though,
@SuperflyGaming
@SuperflyGaming 11 жыл бұрын
This was colossal shite, the doctors performance was great though. I actually see why Steve Moffat doesn't want to make it a fan fest haha.
@jcrossan1351
@jcrossan1351 6 жыл бұрын
Doctor who and Eastenders what a masterpiece
@CuddleBabe
@CuddleBabe 11 жыл бұрын
I've never seen this b4. I like it! Thanks 4 uploading! :-)
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 11 жыл бұрын
And today, "Doctor Who" is itself a soap opera. What's your point? ;-) Actually, the classic series had been canceled four years prior to this. As for "better," how exactly are you defining that word? According to production values, which have certainly improved, or according to stories and characterizations, not to mention good old fashioned continuity, which have not?
@WhovianWaterlooRoad
@WhovianWaterlooRoad 12 жыл бұрын
I don't get what the problem with this is. It's a Children in Need special, it's a bit of a laugh and it united loads of old doctors and companions with the residents of Albert Square! It's not a great story but it really doesn't matter because at the end of the day, it's for charity!
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 11 жыл бұрын
I never said "boring characters." I liked Amy and Rory (though my respect for Amy plummeted when she tried to have her way with the Doctor the night before her wedding). But supporting characters in a lot of the stories tend to be ciphers. Which Baker?
@DJdeadlyDALEK
@DJdeadlyDALEK 12 жыл бұрын
Hell no, Peri was the hotty back then. I remember being a little kid and watching that era of Doctor Who with my Dad and he used to say Peri had a nice pair. Didn't know what he meant then but I agree now ;)
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 12 жыл бұрын
@brandoman79 Of course not; the Doctor is the Doctor, no matter what face he wears. He will always be Susan's grandfather. As far as River is concerned, of course she wasn't going to call him her husband. Spoilers, remember? ;-)
@tenmark7055
@tenmark7055 5 жыл бұрын
Makes me dizzy
@batsomethingorother
@batsomethingorother 11 жыл бұрын
Boring characters? Amy Pond, Rory, and The Eleventh have some of the most natural chemistry in the show's history, the best of course being Ace and 7. But you can be cynical if you want. I , being a fan of Baker's Doctor while growing up, will continue to watch and love the series about an alien with two hearts who flies around time and space in a blue box and take it for what it is, not what it isn't.
@nakyer
@nakyer 11 жыл бұрын
This was meant all along to be almost a parody of the classic series. Look at it. They mixed it up with a SOAP OPERA! Please, don't present this as better than the current WHO. The series was still on hiatus when this was made, and it continued on hiatus during and after. Now it's back. Faster moving, but the return of a hit series. Too bad you can't appreciate that.
@gavinthorburn8818
@gavinthorburn8818 4 жыл бұрын
Cutty sark before its fire destruction
@CrazyHorseTheSiouxW4rrior
@CrazyHorseTheSiouxW4rrior Жыл бұрын
5:00 this scene doesn't make sense since the doctors granddaughter is a timelord herself and she can't recognise her own grandfather OR the fact that timelords can regenerate considering she already met the doctors future selves in "the five doctors" episode ?? 🤷🏾‍♂
@oddrey52
@oddrey52 12 жыл бұрын
2013, eh? Better start stocking up on my flare pants now.
@ericinwisconsin
@ericinwisconsin 12 жыл бұрын
Made for $1.98. The BBC really didn't really care about Doctor Who at that point. That's understandable, since they (wrongly) felt that the program was over and done. This is REALLY bad.
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 11 жыл бұрын
The series had been cancelled as of 1989; this was 1993. You haven't answered my questions yet, so I'll wait to answer yours.
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 12 жыл бұрын
@Smallvillenerd I don;t understand your question. I know no-one who "hates" him, and I've been in DW fandom since 1978.
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