Dr Zoe Harcombe - The Obesity Epidemic: What caused it? How can we stop it?

[@KenDBerryMD]

Brilliant!!! Every health-care provider on the planet needs to watch this wonderful lecture. Twice!!!

[@LittleRadicalThinker]

Zoe is such a phenomenal speaker. She the most phenomenal speaker I ever watched, in my opinion, even better than Dr Robert Lusting which is of course phenomenal in 2nd place.

[@davidparkins1808]

4 years ago. Thank goodness it is still (2024) significant today

[@MadameStark]

It is really that simple. We have been wrong. I was a whole food vegetarian then vegan, drinking green smoothie, eating all the fruits I thought were good for me. I have been keto/LCHF. I haven’t felt better in my life. I got a flat toe stomach with effort. I do light work out and feel no hangry like I used to. This is soooo good. Thank you.

[@LaraBisserier]

Low carb, high fat has changed my life!! I have been obese since childhood. I weigh less now than When I was 12 years old. Please keep educating people since it is changing lives. It is so sad that the medical profession is bought by big food and pharma. I am absolutely never going backwards again.

[@sunshine87654]

The fact that one cuts back on calories is what enables weight loss. It you want to be healthy eat a well balanced healthy diet free of proceed food, fast food and junk food.

[@LaraBisserier]

Sunny Skies it is NOT about calories

[@sunshine87654]

@@LaraBisserier Please direct me to the science that proves that statement.

[@LaraBisserier]

Sunny Skies please direct me to the science that says it is calories!! Not junk science either!! There is no proof of the calories in vs calories out model! The burden is on you to prove it!! Not on me!

[@sunshine87654]

@kellysue1972 Calories in Calories out does work. You don't need anyone's diet plan. Just don't eat more than you burn. It's so simple. I choose to follow that advice and I am living proof that it works.

[@JesusChristisKingandLord]

I agree!!!! My family and I are going back to eating more meat, more fat, more raw milk, fresh and homemade meals. NO MORE CARBS, NO MORE SUGAR, NO MORE VEGETABLE OILS!!! greetings from the philippines.

[@NuMwhan-bg4fq]

Refined carbs, oils and junk food is damaging. A carnivore diet too. Excess saturated fats will mess your lipid metabolism, cancer in the long term for obvious reasons (lack of fibre, polyphenols, vitamin C, Magnesium). Eat meat but always eat your veggies and fruits too. Don't follow hypes. Fibre is consumed by beneficial bacteria in your gut. They make short chain fatty acids with them like butirate that protects from cancer. This is a reason carnivores have more colon cancer. Beans aren't a problem as carnivores say. Lectins go away with cooking. Fruits aren't a problem either. Sugars together with fibre aren't making people fat. Nobody eats them.

[@Shiv1971]

Milk protein should be of the A2 kind. It's also loaded with sugar (lactose). Better to have organic kefir from A2 milk. Lectins and oxalates need to also be measured.

[@collinriley4976]

Wonderful conference. The whole speaking staff is phenomenal. Thank you Dr Noakes.

[@PGpenny6]

Thank you, thank you, thank you ... Zoe and Tim! Your contributions are precious, treasured, and so much "good food"! :)

[@ladysingstheblues2285]

Zoe at her very best.

[@alphacause]

When it comes to dismantling dietary myths, which become an impediment to people adopting low carb, I always refer those reluctant people to Dr. Harcombe's excellent lectures. Her talks are by far some of the most accessible and comprehensive presentations to persuade people that, whatever mental road blocks they have about adopting a high fat animal based diet, are based on fiction.

[@eliezerbenabraham6117]

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[@AnimaLibera]

Thank God for people like Zoë Harcombe!

[@ukidding]

you're welcome

[@rachelhuggett7929]

This is the first time I have come across Dr Zoe Harcombe ans I am so glad I have. Thank-you kindly for posting this great information :)

[@pennyduncan5980]

Thank you! The SAD (Standard American Diet) diet followed by my country has created a SAD life for millions.

[@sunshine87654]

The SAD diet has nothing to do with the food pyramid or my plate. It is a diet of processed food, junk food and fast food. It is high in fat, sugar and protein. No one has ever recommended a SAD diet. If people would wise up and stop eating all that junk it would go away.

[@sunshine87654]

@kellysue1972 No it is not. Processed food, junk food and fast food is the SAD diet.

[@jonathanbellini3047]

thanks so much Zoe you have done the UK a great service and she should be Knighted for your services to education and Nutrition. so much the World can actually learn and we are not going to be dominated by multi nationals !

[@AinoShperber]

Dr Zoe is always amazing to listen to. 👏👏👏 Thank you for posting these talks.

[@davidj4662]

Going up against the big food corporations being protected by the government is probably futile.

[@Hopeandredemption]

Thanks for streaming this.

[@jeffm.8134]

Thank goodness for KZbin!

[@mannyradzky493]

Absolutely AWESOME VID. Thank you.

[@jasonsfamilyandfriendsvide3227]

Great talk, well articulated

[@rob28803]

People have been avoiding fat which means increasing carbs by default.

[@beau5296]

This awesome lady is my hero!

[@sherrillperez9796]

can't help but notice what good shape Dr. Zoe is in. I'm going to eat what she is eating!

[@TheCompleteGuitarist]

Preferably at the same table at the same time? I have her number, you want an introduction? Just kidding. I totally agree. Watch her talk on fibre and she spills the beans (excuse the pun) on how awesome is the body of a guy (shawn Baker) who eats no fibre whatsoever.

[@sunshine87654]

It's not what she is eating it's what she is not eating. She is not eating excess calories. Wake up people. As far as weight goes it's calories in calories out, it always has been and always will be.

[@TheCompleteGuitarist]

@@sunshine87654 Obviously you haven't listened to what Zoe has to say about that. It's not a functional model on which to base weight loss.

[@sunshine87654]

@@TheCompleteGuitarist Calories in calories out is different for everyone because everyone's metabolism is different. But as individuals we need to consume only what we need to maintain a healthy body weight, anything more than that will cause weight gain.

[@TheCompleteGuitarist]

@@sunshine87654 She discuss the ´calorie theory´ here. Good luck telling her she´s wrong. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b16zmYOpf7Wtqas

[@straightshooter2454]

excellent presentation...

[@Schquirl]

This was a mind blowing 💥 lecture of powerful enlightening ⚡️topic!!! Woke! 💡 Thank you 🙏

[@joantendler6518]

Latitude and cholesterol-what a brilliant point! Diet is very important, but nobody ever mentions the estrogenic chemicals that cause insulin resistance, which then alters our appetite hormones and causes insulin resistance. This is particularly a problem with fetus exposure. Estrogenic chemical exposure is widespread, and they include bisphenol A, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, birth control hormones, Roundup andother organophophates, carbamates, solvents and more. If we keep talking about diet, without addressing the root cause of obesity, we're missing the boat.

[@Jefferdaughter]

... found in laundry detergents, in foods and beverages transferred from plastic containers, solvent residue in seed oils and shortenings (cleverly but deceptively marketed as 'vegetable' oils and shortenings) and margarines, and...

[@willemienvooijs8696]

Fantastic! Thank you for sharing!!

[@adeleredfern2606]

Brilliant. Thank you Dr Zoe.

[@skpsr44]

Excellent presentation!

[@kokeskokeskokes]

This is so beautiful, thank you so much! Do you know what is in my head now? The policy makers. "The population is too much to feed with meat. Meat is expensive in water and land, we lack both. What do we do?" "Well, let's convince idiots to eat carbohydrates, we can eat even more and the population will go down naturally, Darwin's way." "Yeah, but when they find out?" "Deny, deny, deny. Anyways, we won't be the policy makers by then."

[@walterbushell7029]

The junk food people could work in the livestock raising. It needs to be done in a small scale (by industrial standards), because it need the eye (and the other senses) of an owner.

[@pjd1147]

Absolutely brilliant!!

[@CR-wk2re]

Absolutely brilliant. And just look at those biceps!!!

[@whosafeard8131]

Ahhh the blessed Dr Zoe Harcombe.

[@GlorifiedTruth]

I agree with Dr. Harcombe. THUMBS UP, PLEASE.

[@trafferz]

Farming practices are the biggest obstacle I'm facing. It's nearly impossible to get pasture raised beef or eggs here. Except for that very last part where the animal dies, PETA and those vegetarians who object on moral grounds have good reason to team up with the LCHF community.

[@jimconnell8994]

Wonderful. Thank you so much 🙏

[@Allheadingtosameplace]

Thank you Ancel keys

[@jermainerace4156]

I think the "Gary" she occasionally refers to is Gary Taubes (sp?). Can anyone confirm this?

[@doudeman]

Gary Fettke also spoke at this conference and has a video from this channel. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIfNf6SYls6Gn7s

[@1timbarrett]

Yup, she refers to Gary Tarbes.

[@cr2lives]

This video consistently stalls at 10:50. After a few minutes, the app loses connection. I'm not having this issue with any other videos.

[@Gismotronics]

A point to consider is how easily most people are controlled - or brained washed. Most of my friends and colleagues think I'm losing it when I tell them more animal derived fat will lower our chances of heart disease and all the rest of modern epidemic level diseases. I have found that a more ancestral type diet with mostly animal derived foods, high in natural fat, has been transformative in many ways. Without wishing to be controversial, I think our way of eating raises consciousness and allows us to see things more for the way they really are. The lies on the mainstream media and the various controlling agendas seem so obvious now. We have to recognise the evil in the world is a Globalist driven agenda.

[@Jefferdaughter]

Dr. Barry Groves addresses the issue of 'What We Are Designed to Eat' kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5-Yq5eNqsipbKs It makes sense that if we are eating what our species is designed to eat, we will be healthier and our brains will function better.

[@TheCompleteGuitarist]

There's a point made early on that consumption of cholesterol has little to no effect on serum cholesterol. Can I ask this question. I am open to sincere answers. Dave Feldman has done extensive tests and has found that high consumption of Saturated Fat as in Keto and Carnivore diets does indeed raise cholesterol levels. Am I missing something here? I know that saturated fat is not cholesterol, but is it really possible to disassociate the consumption of fat with the consumption of cholesterol?

[@Jefferdaughter]

One would have to ask who is funding Dave Feldman's tests? Aside from that, blood cholesterol levels have been found to have very little consequence to health. Ivor Cummins - on cholesterol and the root cause of heart attacks kzbin.info/www/bejne/m57Wfnyija-ob6s Nina Tiecholtz is an investigative journalist and former vegetarian. She deeply researched the history of concerns about fat, cholesterol, and heart disease: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqu0cnt_ia6Insk

[@frinoffrobis]

even on low fat diet my body makes cholesterol.. it doesnt matter what i eat.. besides which cholesterol is needed to make hormones and such

[@elizabethwhite1068]

I hope you have found the answer to this since you posted this, that it's the LDL that tends to increase on LCHF and also it doesn't matter. You want high HDL and low triglycerides, those are the numbers that matter. Not total and not LDL.

[@davelister9755]

So I am trying to understand, the carbs are the enemy and the fats and proteins are fine? Does this also mean that the trans and saturated fats are not really causing weight gain? Because if so, I feel obligated to try reducing carbs. I've never worried about cholesterol at all so if what you're saying is accurate, this would also imply that I could eat eggs as much as I want without a single problem.

[@stewartbeckett5642]

Yes you are correct, look up. Nina Teicholz - vegetable oils the untold story 30 mins long very good ⭐

[@wocket42]

There are natural and unnatural trans fats. I'm not sure if there is evidence natural trans fats are bad. Unnatural trans fats are bad, but they mostly come from processed foods and any food with hardened veggy/seed oils (which unfortunately is also most food from restaurants).

[@Jefferdaughter]

8:12 - "We want to do everything faster, more efficiently, cheaper. You can do that with many, many things. You can do that with the upholstery of your car..." I question whether the upholstery and carpeting in automobiles today are better than they used to be. They are only cheaper because we have allowed corporations to pass along the cost of ecological damage and pollution of our air, waterways, and our bodies to us. If fossil fuel, petro-chemical, and auto manufacturers had to produce the upholstery and interior of cars WITHOUT contaminating the air we breathe, the water we drink and used to get healthy fish from, and without contaminating US, the synthetic fiber upholstery, carpeting, foam cushions, and vinyl would NOT BE CHEAPER than the natural and renewable materials they used to be made from. Leather upholstery is pretty nice, and is the by-product of eating. Fabric upholstery in automobiles, and also buses and trains, used to be made from mohair, shorn from Angora goats. Mohair upholstery is totally renewable, and shearing it helps the animals to feel cooler in the summer, while they are controlling weeds in pastures and other areas, which they thrive on. Managed grazing by goats is the most effective way to control most 'weeds' and brush, including kudzu. Mohair makes tough and attractive upholstery and carpets. It is NATURALLY FLAME RESISTANT, like sheep wool and alpaca fiber. This is important, since the PFAS chemicals used as flame retardants are highly toxic - and ineffective as flame retardants. PFAS chemicals do not break down in the environment, and are toxic to a wide range of species. Even without PFAS chemicals, the fabric upholstery, carpets, and the rest of the interior of today's automobiles is made of synthetic chemicals. The vinyl and synthetic fabric and carpet are ecological disasters from the sourcing of the fossil-fuel raw materials, through manufacture, and disposal. If/when burned, they release toxins into the air that persist. Worse yet, these man-made materials give off toxins during normal use - chemicals that transfer into your body through the air, and through touching them. For most of these materials, this outgassing and contact transfer of harmful chemicals continues as long as the substance exists. The best we can do, at least until we get the money to have a custom interior built in our cars made of wool cushions, mohair carpets, leather dashboards and trim, and mohair upholstery... is to air the car out as much as we can.

[@randomroses1494]

Bamboo is supposed to be a very good, hard wearing natural fibre(though mono crops are always a problem with plant based fabrics).

[@itzakpoelzig330]

Excellent points.

[@sueharrison6718]

I was a girl in the 1960s we ate tons of sugar in daily puddings, cake and biscuits and everyone added it to their tea. My love of boiled sweets rotted my teeth but we were all skinny - underweight by the charts. We were more active so I guess we burned it off. But just sugars did not cause obesity. It looks to me that it's seed oils that were the real change and cause. Those carbs came mixed with butter not marge and we didn't have the savoury junk foods that rely on seed oils.

[@jasonturner6459]

it's low protein, sugar plus fat that does it

[@banishedfromthedwarfplanet530]

Sue Harrison>> You have it pretty much right. Obesity, heart disease, diabetes and many other degenerative diseases are being caused by a combination of processed and refined carbohydrates in addition to the wrong types of fats. And yes, it's seed oils that are the main culprit as far as these bad fats are concerned.

[@incognitotorpedo42]

Sue, you might have felt like you ate a lot of sugar, but I'll bet you weren't drinking the volume of soda that many people do today. You might have 5 grams of sugar in a cup of tea, but ten times that in a modern soda. Because high fructose corn sweetener is so cheap today, portion sizes of candies and soft drinks have grown enormously compared to the 60's, when expensive cane sugar was used.

[@sunshine87654]

@@incognitotorpedo42 I think Sue's point was that eating sugar does not cause obesity but that overeating of anything and sedentary lifestyle causes obesity.

[@incognitotorpedo42]

@@sunshine87654 But that's objectively not the case. "A Calorie is a Calorie" is only true in calorimeters, not living organisms. Admittedly, a lot of highly educated people are confused about that, but it's true.

[@mudieg]

It's not just the the fast food outlet workers that will be unemployed. What about the Doctors, nurses, health food professionals etc. that will no longer be required. 🤓

[@ellenorbjornsdottir1166]

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[@LaraBisserier]

Love Zoe!!!

[@goodviewfromuphere120]

Say something to convince me that there is not a eugenics program in progress. Please.

[@itzakpoelzig330]

Eugenics is the science of trying to breed better specimens of a species. "Eu" means beautiful. What is going on now would seem to be a dysgenics program, as humans are certainly not being made stronger, healthier, or more beautiful by it.

[@toni4729]

We can't sell this diet so TV stations are the last ones to help us out.

[@JackTheGroenendael]

I remember when I was a child (the 60's) my mother fed me a lot of Liver, Kidneys and brains. I loved kidneys and brains, but wasn't totally fond of Liver. How does Kidnay and Brains stack up next to liver?

[@Srieire]

Jeff H great foods, should still be on the menu.

[@JackTheGroenendael]

@@Srieire the local supermarkets don't sell organ meat anymore. I was told they sell it for dog food 😕 I guess the trend is to eat the most expensive cut niw

[@z978ady]

Wonder if high cholesterol begets senility. Pulmonologists urge patients to get plenty of sleep, to help prevent MI. No doubt some patients still take 1 baby aspirin per day, despite warnings of cranial bleeding. Stevia seems to be an accepted sweetener. Sleep and exercise (biking, long walks) seem to help the body function well.

[@ruthmoore1448]

Good, going back to my steak !!! Thank you Dr. Harcombe, that was informative. I like to see the speakers look healthy too!

[@jobrown8146]

Thank you.

[@ericpyle9935]

Is this video getting throttled? Everytime I try to listen to it it just shows loading after a few seconds. Doesn't happen with other vids

[@ericpyle9935]

Was able to fast forward passed passed the 11:40 mark and resume play

[@ericpyle9935]

I'm still getting the spinning circle several times. sometimes fast forwarding helps

[@bronsonmejia1794]

1:14 "comes from Wales"😂😅

[@larsnystrom6698]

Is it an inconvenient fact that women started to work fulltime instead of doing home-cooking. Industrial food took of when no one had time for home cooking anymore. Thr obesity curves started up before the guidlines took effect. So, something else happened before that. It might be that the media did their thing before the guidelines took effect. It's very likely that the guidelines just cemented what was spread as fact by media. It surely weren't based on actual science. So look for what came before the guidelines and became the input used to formulate them.

[@tammcd]

7:10 1 in 4 = 25%, not 40% (1/2.5). Slip of the tongue, no doubt. Excellent information.

[@randomroses1494]

400kg is almost 63 stone in English. Hard to believe, poor girl.

[@zigziar]

Indeed, well she can't get out of bed to feed herself, so perhaps her 'carers' should be investigated for abuse?

[@spaceghost8995]

400 kg is 880 pounds. Andre The Giant weighed around 550 at his heaviest I think. Holy shit, whoever cares for her should be charged with abuse.

[@ellenorbjornsdottir1166]

no, it's 400kg in english. stones are american

[@itzakpoelzig330]

Stones are definitely not used as a unit of measurement in the US, nor, to my knowledge, Canada. They're an old British unit.

[@BadgerBotherer1]

@@itzakpoelzig330 A stone is a weight of 14 pounds. So, 140 pounds equals ten stone.

[@TimBulanski]

On behalf of all Americans I want to apologize to the world for our sheepish corrupt money-grabbing “science” professionals.

[@cavendish009]

I agree what we are told to eat now is completely wrong. I keep being told to eat more fibre which means lots more grains, These are used by the body as sugars. I am now eating a KETO diet which is more meat and veg but very little carbohydrates and sugars. It is much healthier and better for humans. We used to eat like this in the 1960s etc.

[@OfftoShambala]

Interesting... when I think of fiber, I think of fresh fruit and veg, not refined grains.

[@heathermilnes7744]

But what about cancer? Vegans claim that eating meat causes increased rates of cancer, including some big ones such as bowel cancer. I'd appreciate comments on this as a vegetarian who now can't decide what I should be eating. Thanks for a very thought provoking presentation. (Also, I am not overweight so don't need to cut down carbs for that reason)

[@suemorgan5943]

I have been a vegetarian for over thirty years but did eat a high carb diet, ie. wholemeal bread and cereals. After following Dr Fung , Dr Sten Ekberg and Dr Harcombe on a keto/low carb diet, I have never felt better. I am 70 and fit as a fiddle. I eat salad, vegetables, cheese, avocado and nuts. I still do not eat meat.

[@TheHerbdude]

In a big fan of Jason Fung. Also Ivor Cummins, The Fat Emperor. Insulin Resistance seems to be a key factor in many chronic diseases.

[@suemorgan5943]

@@TheHerbdude I do so wish these enlightened scientists /doctors/nutritionists could be more widely acknowledged by the medical profession and dietitians.

[@martijnbodde2481]

Refined vegetable/seed oils (e.g. soybean, sunflower, cottonseed, canola, corn oil etc.) high in inflammatory omega 6 fatty acids have now been linked to cell damage, cancer and are a factor in metabolic syndrome, type 2 diabetes and heart disease (the bigger factor there being excess fructose consumption). It is processed foods (especially those with trans-fats!) you need to look out for (and this includes processed vegetarian/vegan meat alternatives!), not grassfed red meats. There is actually something to say against chicken, as it has relatively high levels of omega 6 (albeit unprocessed). The studies that correlated red meat to increased risk in bowel cancer showed a very weak positive correlation, but not causation. It is very likely that people with an overall bad diet (say high in sugar and processed food and by extension seed oils) also eat more red meat, than your average person who is into whole foods. Also, the IARC which made the classification of probable carcinogen for red meat, based on those studies, was heavily biased towards vegetarianism. I second watching some of Ivor Cummins presentations. He is an independent researcher and explains and scientifically proves the mechanisms behind chronic diseases.

[@alphacause]

Heather, Please watch some excellent presentations by Dr. Georgia Ede, Dr Alex Petrushevski, Dr. Ken Berry, and Nina Teicholz which can be found on KZbin (I cite a few below). All of them go in depth on many studies, that plant based advocates cite to establish their case that meat causes cancer. Ultimately, the notion that there is a strong causal link between meat and cancer is based on weak epidemiological studies, which have a host of methodological problems which are every bit as problematic as the ones that Dr. Harcombe cites here, with regards to saturated fat and heart disease. Secondly, many of these studies, as Dr. Georgia Ede, Dr Alex Petrushevski, Dr. Ken Berry, and Nina Teichelz points out, use deceptive statistical manipulation to make the cancer morbidity and mortality rates of meat eaters vs plant eaters look far more significant than they really are. Dr. Georgia Ede: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnXKq5p6iK6hqpI Dr. Alex Petrushevski: kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6HCkIV4lNeaiK8 Dr. Ken Berry: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h6jcm6Jjg8yEqac Nina Teicholz kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6PdXmt-lM5kraM It should also be noted that low carb is now being acknowledged by many physicians and researchers as a powerful adjunct to conventional cancer therapies. Far from causing cancer, high fat/low carb diets are being used to mitigate cancer. Here a few presentations concerning that below: Dr. Colin Champ: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZ6bg4Z6pduSgMk Dr. Eugene Fine: kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpLac3lniaaLm80 Dr. Dominic D'Agostino: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZewaqJtZ96erdk Dr. Thomas Seyfried: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iXaoXqKLbcSBibc I hope that clears up some confusion that many vegan ideologues are peddling.

[@michaeldillon3113]

Brilliant lecture - even more important in the covid year that we have had that has highlighted the at risk groups . If only you could get this into no 10 - I fear that Boris is going to go down the 'eat less move more ' route , plus veggie and vegan is fashionable again ( I have been a semi vegetarian for 40 years but it was making me sick so I cut down on the grains and started to eat oily fish after reading ' The Zone ' . How shameful was it , that it was a celebrity chef ( Jamie Oliver ) who ran a campaign to get a far at least out of kid's food ! Where were the medics and public health . Talking about paediatrics is there any good science yet to show that children are being born with insulin resistance - after 2 generations of high carb / vegetable oil consumption . Children can after all be born with addictions I f their mothers were addicted to drink or drugs ?????

[@Bacon_Is_Medicine]

37:50 - 38:25 We've over farmed the planet. We need to let the animals eat the plants and then we eat the animals.

[@kathya1956]

How about hyperresponders as identified by Dave Feldman? Their blood cholesterol increases a lot on a lchf diet.

[@alanh6956]

Kathy A but there’s no indication that high cholesterol causes heart disease. If we see more arterial plaque or high blood pressure in hyper responders, then that may become a cause of concern.

[@kathya1956]

Anon Nymous just making the point that in those cases the dietary fat does increase cholesterol

[@epicsdrummer2010]

Kathy A and that's a good thing.

[@erastvandoren]

Dave is a moron. LDL is causal in development of atherosclerosis. This is true for all, "hyperresponder" or not.

[@sunshine87654]

@@epicsdrummer2010 It's a good thing that our body makes all the cholesterol that it needs.

[@artblackwood7936]

You've got to like Dr Zoe Harcombe.

[@DrawnInk1]

Governments allowed big food to add excessive sugar and seed oils to highly processed foods. So those two are guilty.

[@toni4729]

WHY 70 years later are doctors still going on about cholesterol?????

[@MrGodfatherdoc]

Great question. I've met many PCP MDs of internal medicine who don't question their orthodoxy. One of them finally admitted that the USDA's nutritional guidelines are standard of care so they cannot go outside those recommendations. Sounds painful, doesn't it?

[@chronos401]

High LDL and high triglycerides are markers for certain chronic conditions. It would be idiotic to ignore these. The problem we have is the public and the medical community are conditioned to treat symptoms rather than root causes. US doctors are basically legalized drug pushers. If one or both are elevated, doctors want to prescribe drugs to lower them instead of figuring out and if appropriate addressing the root causes for the higher than normal levels.

[@toni4729]

@Aqua man I don't know, I think they're backward.

[@cab711]

What does the R and R^2 mean?

[@Bear-cm1vl]

blog.minitab.com/blog/adventures-in-statistics-2/regression-analysis-how-do-i-interpret-r-squared-and-assess-the-goodness-of-fit

[@js5072]

WE ARE CARNIVORES!

[@Jefferdaughter]

Dr. Barry Groves on 'Homo Carnivorous: What We Are Designed to Eat' kzbin.info/www/bejne/p5nRinihiJJjhqc Dr. Michael Eades, 'Paleopathology and the Origins of the Paleo Diet' kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIS1dZmhqZKqgLs Dr. Stephen Phinney, MD, PhD 'The Case for Nutritional Ketosis' kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZbZe5eVnr-NsNU

[@m.b5777]

A sick person with a chronic condition is a life long customer

[@kathya1956]

Dr. Jack Kruse would be pleased.

[@houmm08]

Her husband eats raw liver does he? With fava beans and a nice cianti?

[@banishedfromthedwarfplanet530]

Is that you, Clarice?

[@Jefferdaughter]

@Aqua man - Vegetarians and vegans trying to get protein from peas and soybeans, and beans are emitting methane - and trying to blame it on the cows. But not deer, bison, caribou, llamas, goats, alpacas, sheep, goats, reindeer, elk, musk ox, yaks, camels, giraffes, wildebeast, water buffalo, antelopes of various species... which are all ruminant herbivores, like cattle? Then again, humans have blamed animals for damaging the very ecosystems that they are an integral part of. And there are anti-nutrients and toxins in beans, too.

[@SusanaXpeace2u]

Sitting here, having put on the 20lbs I lost on keto. I couldn't do keto forever, so I'm going to try a middle road. Low carb. It's hard to follow a middle path. I'm either giving a diet everything I've got or I'm giving it NOTHING. I need to be buddhist about this. ''Just'' Low Carb.

[@FictionCautious]

can't help but notice how trustworthy these scienceses are and how useful for the global manipulation/genocidal effort they have proven to be.

[@piemanmuncy]

the fuck is "Shuckroze".....?

[@kamra99a]

Coronary heart disease could correlate with latitude because of indoor air pollution. People use indoor combustion appliances more at higher latitude and keep their windows closed more than those in warmer climates. Nitrogen dioxide, carbon monoxide and particulates could cause heart disease.

[@rogerweigel7925]

The history of nutrition science nearly mirrors the history of climate science. James Hanson plays the role of Ancil Keys and Al Gore plays the role of George McGovern.

[@oolala53]

I’m sorry, but I live in America and I’ve been around dieters for most of my life and I can tell you that very few people actually eat according to the faulty diet pyramid that is being criticized here. That doesn’t mean I think that it’s right. It’s just that people aren’t sticking to any recommended pyramid. They are depending on eating many prepared foods and also eating out, finishing off huge portions of foods a very poor quality. As I said, I am not a proponent of the food pyramid but I would wager that if people ate their food in accordance with that but stuck to Whole Foods and kept the servings of any flour-based foods to a few servings a week, plus gave up snacking and ate most of their food at meals, we would not have this issue. And when you’re talking about diets, the great majority of people don’t even stick to a diet for a week. If you change the pyramid and make it more geared towards fat and protein, there will likely be a decline in weight, but it’s doubtful the majority will even stick to that and become thin again. The marketers will be allowed to market their food-like substances, Parents will keep feeding their children what are basically drugs because somehow they think children can’t live without treats, and medical schools at least in the United States will still not devote very much time to nutrition. I don’t know what is going to turn things around.

[@1timbarrett]

Yup. Talking about the Proper Human Diet without addressing food addiction is like talking about monotheism without addressing the concept of God.😂

[@PInk77W1]

“How can we do that to a teenager?” I didn’t do that

[@whatdolhavetodo]

Thought at first Dr Harcombe was Twiggy talking about herself. Carnivorous eating keeps us looking young and healthy as is obvious!

[@Allheadingtosameplace]

One mans arrogant ego(narcissist). Created all this misery

[@johnlawrence2757]

Dreadful parenting. Mothers giving their babies sweets cakes, chocs and drinks to keep them docile so by two or three they are addicted The eighties was when there was a huge surge in women going to work and in those days child carer businesses used these same techniques to attract customers and then control them At the same time we have the relentless and ruthless advertising campaigns by sweet, cake, chocolate, biscuit, white flour & pasta, milk and soft drink companies

[@Jefferdaughter]

I do not know if this is still done, but newborn infants were routinely fed sugar water in bottles in the hospitals soon after birth.

[@1timbarrett]

Thank you. 🙏 So few people address the link between feminism and obesity. Once women were free to leave their kitchens behind and to seek jobs outside the home, the obesity problem skyrocketed. I say this as a feminist…😮

[@itzakpoelzig330]

Yes, but women didn't suddenly leave the kitchen because they were "free" to. They left the home out of economic necessity. A one-person income was no longer enough for most of the middle and lower classes to scrape by on. This was done very deliberately. Our decision-makers realized after WWII that half of the work force was working for the other half of the work force, instead of working for the GDP. They set out, through relentless propaganda and policy pushing, to change that. Getting women out of the home also had the additional benefit (for our decision-makers) of getting the children out of the home too, and getting them into conditioning camps (a.k.a. public schools) at a much younger age. The family unit was broken up in such a way that children no longer imprinted on their parents as their primary role models, but on the herds of their peers that they spent most of each day with. When a child's role model is other children, we see what we have been seeing ever since: adults who are functionally and emotionally still children. All of this is tragic and disgusting, but to lay the blame for it on women is exactly what our policy-makers want you to do. Turning men against women and women against men (and children against their parents) was another very deliberate choice on their part, and is exactly how they keep us fractured and weak.

[@neo5kali]

Tell Zoe to stop using that ectomorph anorexic model TWIGGY as a model for aesthetic admiration! Not!

[@Webfra14]

Last slide should be made into a T-shirt and everyone should be forced to wear it.

[@Jefferdaughter]

Actually, no one should be forced to do anything, except to respect everyone else's right to not be forced to do anything. The Philosophy of Liberty: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bnjEq414q62bnbM Of course, this means that no one has the right to pollute 'the commons', since polluting the air and water forces others to breathe and drink the pollution. However, you are free to print those T-shirts and wear them for others to see. And you are at liberty to print them and sell or give them to others to help spread the message you want to share!

[@landonbarretto3139]

Yes, sugar is making people fat. To say butter and oils don't is absurd. By the way, meat is dead flesh. Just want to make sure that's understood.

[@martinirving3824]

BTW, the world's longest living person, French woman, Jean Calment, purportedly ate a lot of dark chocolate.

[@randomroses1494]

“Purportedly”

[@eccothegambler]

Not a lot actually.

[@DennisNowland]

'is it the butter or the bread that puts the weight on? It's THE BLOODY CALORIES.!!

[@Jefferdaughter]

This ignores the very different ways that fats and carbohydrates are processed by the body. The calorie was derived as a measure of energy given off by lighting a given quantity of a substance on fire and seeing how much it would increase the temperature of a measured amount of water. Useful when comparing coal to wood in steam engines, but of more limited use in a complex biological system like the human body. Consider that feeding antibiotics to animals was found to increase their weight gain on the same amount of feed - with the same amount off calories. Or the mice that gained a lot more weight on the SAME amount of the SAME FOOD when that food was finely ground - containing the same amount of calories.

[@SweetJennyFan]

What happened ? Burgers happened.

[@sunshine87654]

And fried foods, junk foods and so abundantly.

[@Jefferdaughter]

Actually... burgers were around for a long time before the obesity and diabetes epidemics began. The truth is out there...

[@sunshine87654]

@@Jefferdaughter The diabetes epidemic began when fast food restaurants came to nearly every town in the USA. I was there. It started in the late 70's. And gas stations becacame convenience stores packed full of junk food and soda pops.

[@greendeane1]

I call the crap frankenfood.

[@helenhucker346]

Is this the meat and dairy industry fightback that vegans have been expecting?

[@AzerPaul]

She thinks government advice was listened to by all USA citizens?! Haha. We duly noted that fat was supposed to be bad for you, but we went right on eating thousands of hamburgers, hot dogs, pizzas, cheesy everythings, as well as pastrami, baloney, and all the rest. If she doesn't think U.S. citizens kept eating fat and actually increased it as their weight went up, she wasn't, and isn't, here.

[@Seraphim_Belisarius]

Most of that is paired with bread of some kind and as a drink added to that? Fruit juice, soda, energy drinks, Gatorade/Powerade all filled with what? Sugar/Carbohydrates.

[@andresfernandes5906]

"The obese are not always great eaters: but they invariably drink a great deal, even though it be only water." Water makes you fat. It's the line in the same book just before the one she and Taubes found so brilliant "Farinaceous and vegetable foods are fattening, and saccharine matters are especially so." Experts knew about as much about Nutrition back then as they do now.

[@itzakpoelzig330]

Insulin resistance often does cause people to be chronically thirsty and to retain water like crazy, so there's some basis for their observations...

[@jewhadist9898]

Prince Charles truly is The Prince of Whales

[@rtineigrihms8422]

Dank!

[@jglee6721]

It's the Russian's fault with the rabbit experiment. jk, lol

[@andresfernandes5906]

Enough about Ancel Keys. Lots of experts since him blamed fats for cancer. Today lots of experts blame red meat, even without fat, for many, many diseases. Lots of experts blame meats for disrupting the gut microbiota and destroying human health. The problems with Nutrition are way bigger than a man who retired in 1972.

[@stefaniafei]

dogs are carnivores.

[@raj-rajesh]

stefania fei Dogs are omnivores.

[@raj-rajesh]

@somerandomperson1503 Nope. You can google it. In fact, I know vegan dog owners who do not even feed their dogs with meat. Cows will not survive at all if you feed them meat.

[@raj-rajesh]

@somerandomperson1503 You have a comprehension problem. I said cows cannot survive on meat. They will soon die. Dogs can survive on plants for a long long time.

[@plant-based-carnist]

​@somerandomperson1503 definition in biology: 1. Herbivore - an organism that eat mostly plants. Ex. Cows 2. Carnivore-an organism that eat mostly animals. Ex. Lions 3. Omnivore- an organism that regularly eat variety of materials including plants, or animals. Ex. Dogs.

[@plant-based-carnist]

@SomeRandomPerson Surely you don't understand how taxonomic classification works. It is only a way of NAME GROUPING based on some shared characteristics but many characteristics are overlapping with other groups. For example, 1:giant panda is also order carnivora but it is 100% herbivorous. Some order carnivora like sloth bear are 95% herbivorous. 2. Cows belong to order artiodactyls who are supposed to be herbivores. However, pigs are artiodactyls but they are omnivorous. Warthogs are artiodactyls too but they eat MOSTLY meat. 3. Humans are order primates but primates differ a lot in diet too. Humans and chimps are primates which are omivores. colubus monkey is a primate which are purely herbivorous. And then there is tarsier which are purely carnivorous.

[@Finn959]

I caused it. It was me 😈

[@MemoryAmethyst]

Holy bad, cherry picking science , Batman! 😂😂😂This is bonkers. Nothing about fibre, nothing about what people are actually eating ( not just government recommendations). Eat real food, mostly plants, NOT TOO MUCH.

[@ericchang5217]

Georgia comes from whales? Yes.

[@Jefferdaughter]

@@barbsdee3831 - Who is more ignorant? The one making a wordplay joke, or the one who misses it, and lashes out like a fishwife?

[@bobbeck5468]

I eat high starch, low fat most of the time and I'm normal to skinny. I like butter but it affects my health negatively. I have never taken an antibiotic. Antibiotics affect your microbiome. Antibiotics fatten animals. More people have taken antibiotics since the 1960s. I could says antibiotics are the cause of obesity but I don't know that. People lose weight on high starch no oil diets. She is only telling part of a very complicated debate and should know better.

[@Jefferdaughter]

There appears to be a very small segment of the population who can eat a high starch and low fat diet and do well. At least for awhile. Dr. Tim Nokes is one of those who ate like that. As a university professor and researcher he advised people to eat that way, and promoted a high carb low fat diet in his book 'The Lore of Running'. As a marathon runner, he ate that way - until he began putting on weight and losing energy. Then he found that he had developed Type 2 diabetes, and now stays under 25 grams of carbs per day. In 'The Case for Nutritional Ketosis', Dr. Stephen Phinney, MD, PhD talks about the different diets that people have eaten over time, and that a few people do seem to do fine on high carbs, but most do not. And, over time, those who did well on high starch diets often develop problems that can only be successfully resolved by switching to a low carb diet. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZbZe5eVnr-NsNU There are many other references available, but whatever works for you works for you!

[@1timbarrett]

How does butter affect you? 🤔

[@alanj9978]

Almost no one loses weight on high starch diets, because they're hungry all the time.