This Tank Should Not Exist - The Weirdest Tank Designs - Sprocket

Welcome back to Sprocket! In today's episode of Sprocket I thought it would be fun to design some more wacky tanks for the campaign, in this episode I try my best to make a competitive light tank and a massive sniper tower-like tank. I hope you enjoyed this episode of Sprocket, thanks for watching and liking.
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[@mastergreenfox6004]

15:57 Never underestimate the lethality of a toppled tank. If its gun still works it can still kill. Bravo, fallen AI, that was beautiful.

[@corvidchaos4215]

I remember a match of wot where they actually won the tournament by flipping a tank sideways against a building and then pressing other tanks against it to block it

[@evey89]

The breach of the gun is simulated inside the turret so when you lower the barrel the breach goes up. If you have a small turret with a low roof, the breach simulates hitting it and prevents you from lowering

[@Psiberzerker]

You can raise the roof a little by putting a Cupula over the top of the Breach at maximum Depression.

[@PapaSkyRooster]

@@Psiberzerker yes it works but it’s also very weak spot if u fire really any round with a tank above 75mm it will destroy ur breach and prolly kill ur crew it happened a lot with some German tanks during ww2

[@Psiberzerker]

@@PapaSkyRooster So, in Sprocket, you have to worry about the King Tiger on Crossroads, and that's pretty much it? We're talking about Sprocket Tank Design here, not War Thunder. (However, that cupula shot was my favorite on those Panzie Kampers) Pretty much the only enemy with a gun above 75mm in Sprocket is that KT, and there's just one of them.

[@Psiberzerker]

@@PapaSkyRooster Look, man. Everything you do designing your tank is going to be a trade off. If it's not 1 thing, it's 2. Typically, my Commander is a Commander/Driver in the hull, so the Loader/Gunner can be in the Turret, so the Cupula is safe behind the Turret. However, this comment wasn't about maximizing the internal volume of your tank by dialing it down to a bare bones crew. It was about Gun Depression. Here's something you can do to get more Gun Depression. There's going to be a trade-off whatever you do. Up to you whether it's worth putting your Commander in the Turret (Which means expanding the Turret anyway, might as well expand it upwards.) Anything I say is going to come with a "Yeahbut." I'm not going to stop posting because the Yeahs butt in.

[@hunormagyar1843]

It's breech I think, but yeah

[@maxmachac9756]

When your elevation rate is in the negatives the gun wont move up and down, you need to make the gun smaller or the elevation motors bigger

[@mrsnezbit2219]

And make room inside the turret for the breach to move down

[@Indy_650]

That's what I was going to say, if there's nowhere for the breach to elevate or decline, it won't move. There's more to the structure of the gun than just the breach

[@akshayvinodnair]

Shouldn't negative elevation rate mean that when u try to move the gyn up, it actually goes down and vice versa?

[@maxmachac9756]

@@akshayvinodnair no

[@akshayvinodnair]

@@maxmachac9756 i know that in the game that's not the case but in case of vectors, a negative sign implies a reversal in direction.

[@hashtagrex]

An interesting part of ww2, during the invasion of Poland, the Polish had these mini tanks called TKS tankettes. They were absolutely adorable but one commander did manage to become a tank ace using one

[@runnyburrito969]

ALL THEY HAD WERE MACHINEGUNS😂

[@hashtagrex]

@@runnyburrito969 the most menacing vehicles of ww2

[@runnyburrito969]

@@hashtagrex yea i know its just that its kind of weird considering they werent supposed to have an anti tank role😂

[@theGovernor88]

Italy and Japan made heavy use of the tankette which was mostly used for anti Infantry plus they could be used as tractors and supply carriers.

[@runnyburrito969]

@@theGovernor88 yes

[@deathskrieg5525]

The "interwar period" is the space between world War one and world War two, the tank on screen at the beginning was much too modern to be world War one Era

[@warbrain1053]

i have made a bt for the era, 18 tons, 100km/h and a 75mm gun Very competitive, try to shoot it

[@Karagianis]

Indeed, inter means between, e.g. intercity trains that travel between cities.

[@glorvalmacglorvas6082]

Yeah, that kinda hurt when he said "I believe that's World War One" It is literally called *interwar*, as in, between wars.

[@ambassadorofreee3859]

The era doesn't matter, the "blank" tank you get at the start is allways the same.

[@zs1171]

Bro how can you design tanks uf you cant tell a Renault FT-17 apart from a Pz. III

[@mr.muffindan.m3367]

you can also change how much space crew is allowed to use. lowering it does lower efficiency but they use less space

[@el_fonch]

It was all good... then this 17:23 and I lost my shit! Hilarious!!!

[@Vikashar]

I woke my wife up with my laugh when that happened

[@thisguyderrick6782]

I am really waiting for him to make a tank that's meant for turning tables with bigger tanks

[@Dr.Silverwolf20]

Ok, I figured out the turret/gun depression problem. If your barrel is too long, thick or to big of a caliber your gunner can't move it up and down, if you noticed there's a thin blue line when you mess around with the barrels length and thickness right where the gun meets the mantlet. You have to keep it balanced, not too far in the turret. Not too far outside the turret.

[@fatcat4193]

Make a tank 2 times the size of the maus and give it a 20mm main gun

[@liamtgreat]

i dare you to make the biggest tank ever

[@fernandoqueirozpopovic7024]

Credit to ConeofArc

[@liamtgreat]

@@fernandoqueirozpopovic7024 ?

[@fernandoqueirozpopovic7024]

@@liamtgreat well he did make a very big tanks do anithing drae could come up with other than what he did in the first episode is well... A very far strech

[@andrazskusek4604]

Hello Drae, my 6th year with you still loving every single piece of content,. Stay amazing and thank you

[@nuranbintangsabihat4032]

"it's trully not the size, it's the way you use it" i wonder drae ever say that outside this gameplay

[@rylanlunnon9640]

The mini tank actually looks kind of like a Luchs. Obviously very vaguely, but the stubby little tank look with angled armor is adorable.

[@GuyJustCool]

Drae! You need to make it smaller OR Larger, just so the gun’s center of mass is right on pivot. Gun’s CoM divergence from pivot is depicted by a blue line in editor, along with barrel axis. Tips: bigger caliber and shell length = more breech weight, thicker/longer barrel - more weight on the barrel side of pivot. Balance them out so blue line disappears, and you get a perfectly balanced gun. Even max torque breeches cannot go above 0.2 deg/sec at calibers above 150. Well, if you have a barrel that is balanced and burns all the propellant(for such a caliber you need long-a** shells to have a decent muzzle vel, higher the mv, higher the pen for AP, and these need barrels upwards of 10 meter to at least burn 90% of gunpowder and accelerate the projectile.

[@W0LFUR]

Sprocket: *exist* Tank designer: *intense creating witch craft*

[@HATECELL]

Sprocket and Arma 3's Nyx tankette really got me thinking about whether a modern tankette could be useful. If you skip the cannon and just use a good AT missile and an MG against infantry, you could keep your tank killer relatively small. And thanks to modern screens, cameras, and autoloaders you could keep the number of crew low, and place them more or less where you want. And depending on the missile's guidance system and range you could even use them to fire over cover, letting a drone or other friendly unit do the spotting for you. Then again, tank warfare is at a weird spot right now

[@vaelophisnyx9873]

You've accidentally stumbled onto the Weasel HOT IFV

[@Red_Rum_Ray]

Dude i love this game so much! You are funny as always and a great content creator! Keep up the good work man!

[@diamondninja4938]

15:58 lmao the toppled tank got em!

[@theRealests]

15:22 maybe the (gun) breech does not have enough room to point downwards, which is also why most soviet tanks has bad gun depression.

[@Blue__244]

its the barrel its too heavy it has -2 degree angle so it doesnt work

[@zerrierslizer1]

a tip on the gun and how it elevates etc. if you balance the core length (the top length you can change) and the barrel length you can get some elevation control. i made a tank destroyer that had a 150mm cannon that could elevate at 11 Degrees a second up, down, left and right, as i made my tank without a turret and instead made it a mounted gun. my tank could battle tiger 2's frontally with each shot coming out per 9th second and i had a good pen at 218mm of pre-pen, which made most targets into jelly. i used exclusively APHE as it does more damage after it pens.

[@SplatterSax]

More Sprocket would be appreciated. We all know you love your tank games, famously World of Tanks.

[@carcar9315]

At this point, you could try recreating the "Tonk", or at least going as near as possible

[@nickstefani9859]

We need the Tonk good idea :D

[@1953dan]

I like your little Lamborghini tank. A little more speed and a little more punch and it would be perfect. Concerning your "tall" tank, all I could think of was Doctor Who's, Daleks, rolling across the landscape saying "Exterminate!". It was hilarious watching a whole group of them heading towards the enemy. Imagine seeing a bunch of these coming over the ridge at you. It would be like "What the . . . !?" The psychological damage to the enemy alone would be worth it.

[@GOAT_420]

Everyone:what is that??? Soviet union: it's beautiful!!!

[@joshse8709]

14:30 when he said "why is it not..." skipped "depressing?" LOL wanted to say it issss

[@stevepittman3770]

14:43 It's like a flock of underfed sand-crawlers from Star Wars!

[@maxcarter3453]

List of Games I Would Like To See You Play And Also Ones That Have Been Popular On This Channel: 1. Teardown 2. I Am Fish 3. Riders Republic 4. Cave Digger 2 5. WW2 Bunker Simulator 6. ABRISS Build to Destroy 7. Road 96 8. Breakwaters (Most popular so far-1 episode is 600k views) 9. Powerwash Simulator 10. Gas Station Simulator 11. BeamNG 12. Sprocket 13. Viscera Cleanup Detail 14. Snowrunner 15. Cooking Simulator Also, the camping ones you do with Icy are pretty fun. Hope this list helps you out. Would love some of these games to keep on going in this channel, like Teardown. :) Love your channel Drae (also love your Twitch streams).

[@maxcarter3453]

Also loved talking to you and Icy on stream. ( www.twitch.tv/draegast ) Also 14:55 Some more Autotune for ya-it happened a while ago too haha don't know if you remember Drae

[@ChrisRand-gf7lz]

Yo drae, when you gun won't elevate, it's because the balance is off. You can tell by the "Rate of Elevation" value. If it's negative, it's unbalanced and won't elevate. Anything positive and it will work. You can even balance the gun by changing the length of the round as, I can only assume, the weight of the round in the breech helps balance it further.

[@silvanelf1]

This is great! Please keep playing.

[@outdoorangling4466]

love the videos drae keep up the great work

[@charliegarrison9688]

That tall boi reminded me of the street sweepers from the movie robots! 😂 From the front anyways, don't look at it from the sides

[@KaneyoriHK]

This is a really neat game, I'd love to see more of sprocket

[@zakkiller223]

Bring this back !!!!

[@i_died_gaming8669]

Hey after tons of experimentation, a good ratio I’ve found for average weight (30-60t) tanks is a heavy, 1.75L engine with 16 cylinders, max rpm 3500 and min rpm 3300, 12 forward transmission with first gear at 16 and then balance, 4 reverse transmission with first gear at 7 and then balance. I hope it works if you ever try it out

[@foxracerdrew]

Would love to see him recreate the M5 scout tank and the M2 Locust, couple of my favourites.

[@FNIX_TANK]

M22 I’m pretty sure the locust is called

[@germando715]

Locust swarm

[@foxracerdrew]

@@FNIX_TANK Indeed it is, I need both a new brain and a new keyboard.

[@vexed_weeb3804]

Love your vids man

[@Karagianis]

Historically the shape for tanks had an ideal length to width ratio. If you make it too long and thin it's not going to want to turn, if it's too short and wide it's going to start getting kind of squirrely at speed, and can spin out when making tight turns.

[@patrick_m9286]

the value at elevationspeed must be positiv, when the number is negativ, -2.13°/s for example, the gun wont elevate. you can correct that by powering up the tourque or mess with the length of your gun and length of the shell... the blue line on the gunmount indicates if your gun is too long or too short, if you cant see the blue line, your gun is perfectly ballanced ;)

[@vizolie6387]

About time I watched a drae video 1 hour before the uploading

[@UndyingZombie]

I know this is going to sound strange.. But in games where you play tanks mostly.. I have always wanted to have infantry in the games as well. Both NPCs as well as your screw. Allowing an option to escape a disabled tank. Obviously after that the chances of surviving becomes very slim. BUT. It does open up a possibility, a slim one. Where you could still survive, as well as a slim one of actually opening the hatch of a enemy tank, killing the crew, and taking it over.. If said mechanics where added of course. Do I want tanks to be the main focus? Yes. But I also want a bit more of little things like that. Infantry could even be made to where all they could do is open a hatch kill crew and jump in. Or shoot other infantry if people think allowing infantry to have stuff for anti-tank to be too much in a tank focused game. Admittedly this is probably a strange idea and want from me.

[@sergeikat01]

Great vid as always. I really wish I could get my hands on this game sooner, can't quite spare the money as of now sadly!

[@joe125ful]

Edit:6:27 Just press armor button and it show what armor it have turret/hull also increasing armor decrease internal space in tank. And you can set Gun mantlet armor too. 6:51 Crew view ports are not weak spots but maybe in future. And utilities not add weight only fuel tanks add some. 9:12 You need set in Gun mount window force in KN that affect turret and gun up/down also on some maps it work better then on others and same with penetration values on grass hill map i get 211 on this map i get 160 or something like that.

[@bosshunterman]

In a perfect world, a tank like this would not exist... *But this is not a perfect world.*

[@LordofAoD]

Drae: *makes tiny tank* Me: *sees Char B1 tanks* That's unfortunate

[@aoihitori]

Instead of tank, this looks like a drone.. And it is so cute... 😂 I hope there is destruction animation to tell which tanks are destroyed and which one are still working or their parts will spread everywhere...

[@FreezaCreepa]

hey drae funny enough i believe there was a tank that was similar in design to your last one in one of the world wars, dont remember the name unfortunatly but it had that long ass barrel like that. i think it was meant for either anti tank or long range artillery strikes.

[@williamkeiperstewart5416]

Honestly, the first one had alot of interwar/1920's philosphies put into it. Took everything they learned in wwi and tried to make it better. Their pretty fine tankettes.

[@thoughtsofaveteran]

MORE SPROCKET NOW!

[@jeffjefferson5095]

Who needs a tank when you can just design an artillery gun?

[@Dantaroen]

Cupolas are not a weakspot, in case you were wondering, its primarily accesories.

[@NathanPa-xo3zj]

Drae can you tell us what stuff you've been smoked while designed the tank, because I'm sure want it too lmao 😂

[@Zand3rParkour]

I wonder how well the design of the Scorpion from Halo would work

[@TheRogueBro]

The first tank gave me Tiny Tank (PS1) vibes... lol

[@danielkjm]

More Plz this game is awesome

[@kalskirata42]

Drae bouta run fades on Ghost Division with Uber Tonk

[@TheSebastianSykes]

16:00 Despite being on their side they manage to eliminate another tank

[@kevintan3705]

The gun’s center of balance is too far forward, and the motors can’t handle it. You can see this via the blue line when modifying the gun. Ideally, the blue line shouldn’t extend forwards or backwards from the center.

[@Psiberzerker]

In Railway, you can spawn up to 16 Tanks each with up to about 6 and a half Tonnes. Each scenario has a Mass Limit, and a Hull Limit (How many allies you can spawn.) Railway has the highest Hull Limit. I think Fields, and Tiaga both have the highest Mass Limit at 150 Tonnes.

[@NewWhirledSlacker42]

Those Dalek tanks are hilarious!!

[@bigcheese6296]

Love the vids

[@edleeortiz6221]

I do hope you can showcase some tanks that the Sprocket community built

[@thoughtsofaveteran]

Increase your idle RPM. It will help with moving turret and cannon.

[@mattbatcraz]

14:28 *RELEASE THE DUCKS!*

[@Egerit100]

You should build the Shneider CA1

[@donomoto3638]

15:57 Tipped over tank kill FTW

[@deytd1507]

you HAVE to make that last thing work now

[@ricardojvindasb1693]

Now you know, those long legged walkers from Hoth were right all along XD

[@kabob0077]

Drae, Interwar is between WWI and WWII, it's the period from November of 1918 to September of 1939.

[@spikeswallow4010]

Drae had a big ring and he wished it could be small👀 learn something new every day

[@miltoska9708]

Why the cannon cant move: When on the cannon tab, you can see a blue line coming out of the mantlet, parallel to the gun, This line is the cannon center of mass in comparison to the elevation motor You need to move the gun back and forward ,or increase/decrease thickness till that line disappears, or becomes very small

[@matsv201]

Inter war is 1920 to about 1936... depending on if they have a pre wwII era or not. Sometimes the inter war end 1933 with a pre war era from 1933 to 1939. A autoloader did exist back then (i Think some french tank used it). What really make sens is to have the driver and the gunner the same person and the commander being the commander and maybe radio operator. That was the original design of the STRV 103.. then the relized then need more hands when maintaining and loading the tank so the broke out the radiooperator as a 3:rd person. But the tank operates perfectly fine with 2 person.. Actually, in reality, you can operate a STRV 103 with pretty much all functions (apart from radio tuning) with just one person. To make the tank as small as possible, the gave it a very harsh high restriction for the operators. This is also true for Swedish fighter jets. I tried out the cockpit of a Saab Gripen and well i needed help to get out because i was stuck, and my head was also sticking out from the cockpit. And i´m not that tall, "only" 190, that is like 5 cm over average length

[@celchronicles]

Hahaha that's some really interesting ifo

[@matsv201]

@@celchronicles Both Swedish tanks and fighters have a very interesting cold war History. The idea with Swedish cold war defense is guerrilla fighting with tanks and jet fighters. So if USSR invade Sweden, the tank crew can just wanish into the forest. Typically when the war start, people would probobly just drive the tank home and hide it, then when stasi come and knocks at there door they would get heck of a suprice. The tanks would then be supplied with normal tracks that would be painted like the postal trucks. They would be the same make and model to, so they would be absolutely impossible to tell the diffrance. Of cause, i was never alowed to rid a tank or a fighter because i was to tall. I got a wheel loader, but i was never to finish my tour due to the regiment been cut when i suspense to do my service. Anyway, the Strv S is absolutly tiny, it would easily fit in the tractor sheed with space to spare, at home we could probobly even park a tractor outside of it, and that wasn´t even a "real" farm. And the Strv S just runs on normal diesel. Actually it had the exact same engine as the tracktor in my parents hobby farm, it was sort of the most common tractor in Sweden in that period. The crew (3 people) can lift the engine out of the tank in like 40 minutes Of cause, fighting a guerrilla battle with tanks is not that strange.. but with the fighters. Yes, also the fighters. When Sweden was invaded the Fighters would all just vanish. There was about 2000 supply dumps. So every rotel (two fighters) would just go to a random dump and have there support crew go there with the trucks. Every dump had supply for something like 2 month of fighting, then they could just move on to the next one. The dump would have everything from fuel, munitions and spare engines. Now i bet you are thinking... A jet fighter can´t land anywhere in the forest. well sort of true.. but not quite. They would have landed on a regional road, then taxied on a local road. The actual base may be quite a bit of the road. Then you might think.. it would be fairly easy for the Russians to find every bit of road with the right length and width then just search the area... Nopp. From the 1960 forward, every single road in the country was built with the specification to allow a fighter to land. So that would be all of the regional roads in the whole country. So the airbases (and there are a lot of them, over a thousand) can be literally anywhere. When the USSR troops eventually find an airfield they would have one last nasty surprise. "närskydd". They are the ghost surrounding the dumps, you know you found them when you got a bullet in the back. And remember, they may have tanks. All STRV 103 have blades, so they can dig them self down. I Only know the situation around the late 80-tys. But there would be about 300 AJ37 and about 600 J35 available at that time.There might also be about 300 J32 available mostly to attack, it was to old to be used as a fighter, and they would be hot seated by about 2000-3000 pilots. USSR would have about 1000 fighters in total in this period. AJ37 is also one insane fighter for the time. It was one of the first fighter that had a radar down link computer that could share radar data with ground station. Worth saying, this aircraft was introduced in 1971. This is officially the only aircraft to ever maintain a radar lock on a SR71. The thing is... Sweden is not part of Nato... And most SR71 missions went into Turkey over USSR then out over Baltic.. and well.. Sweden is kind of tall and narrow. So the SR71 went over Swedish airspace illegally. What i heard is that they really didn´t like doing that because the got locked pretty much every single time. It turned out that it favored the SR71 in the end. Because in the 80-tys the Russians figured out that if they had mig posted in the very western edge of USSR , they could catch up with the SR71 over the Baltic. What the Russians didn´t know was that Sweden had have the capability to intercept SR71 over a decade by that point, and so the AJ37 did also that time, but then they locked on the Migs in stead of the SR71. And they chickened out. The idea was partly to train the pilots on the hardest target possible, but also show the Americans that Sweden was so capable it would be a point in shipping supplies to sweden in cases of WWIII. In Reality the pace of technology was so fast in the 60-tys that USSR probobly lossed the capability to successfully attack Sweden already in the late 60-tys. By the time STRV 103 and AJ37 came around, they was probobly to out matched. The fact that Sweden by that point was a full fighter generation a head of USSR and also have higher number of the laters fighter probobly would made quite a bit of a problem for them

[@celchronicles]

@@matsv201 wow these type of info certainly do not belongs to a youtube post haha. it worth a lot more than that. Thanks for sharing! Did not expect to encounter these type of interesting reading here

[@matsv201]

@@celchronicles Well.. you are right.. i was kind of bored yesterday.. and couldn´t bother doing something productive, was right before bedtime over here.

[@sayori3939]

I love drae and his vehicle building games

[@Zyrdalf]

Just like how you loved me, Sayori…

[@sayori3939]

@@Zyrdalf wait what?

[@Zyrdalf]

@@sayori3939 what?

[@sayori3939]

@@Zyrdalf what did you mean by that?

[@Zyrdalf]

@@sayori3939 what did I mean by what?

[@percy3815]

“50mm of penetration isn’t much at all” Well that’s me screwed then 😂

[@sharonmartlow898]

You sure the first tank isn't a prototype for an APC?

[@skyloren2187]

The last one is no Tank. Thats a turret 😂😂😂

[@christiancomire1138]

Theres a blue line inside the turret when you are changing the length of the barrel you need the make that a little point, so that the line disapears

[@slingking100]

drae out here bouncing shots

[@alfonsomariadellacorte3490]

"but unfortunately we can't go smaller" *laughs in l3/33*

[@odingroen1056]

the tank at the time 13:30 looked like a star wars tank

[@JoeMama-wb9tu]

Why do you sound like PhlyDaily, like almost exactly alike. Except more energetic, I like it. Keep up the cool videos man, you're awesome!

[@saber5694]

Tip on tank designs. Armor maneuverability firepower. pick two

[@freddafishy]

I cannot wait to see all the more stupid things you come up with. Keep it up Drae!

[@arazat7342]

Man your outro slap! Could I know what the name is ?

[@kaseymalec6194]

More! We! Want! More!

[@bam840]

The second tank reminded me of the Jawa sandcrawler lol

[@joepzomerveld]

the small tank reminded me of pique uitalian engineering: Carro Veloce, the 2-manned dwarf tank that could be penetrated by a crossbow bolt

[@lights_flammenwerfer2120]

Drae here is s suggestion for a tank you could try to make the german mouse

[@Entenscheiss1]

Why do so many creators in this game that I've seen don't get that depression has to do with how much room the breech has inside the turret. Barrel goes down=breech goes up, so when the roof is to low, then there's no depression to be had

[@pyromaniact-80u64]

“Crew still needs space” laughs in CV33

[@alpacaofthemountain8760]

That mini tank was smol (great video btw)

[@RandoNetizen27]

Super heavyweight barrels can prevent the motors from adjusting elevation.

[@pratyushkishore9030]

We had tigers leopards and panther tanks now you created the giraffe

[@slugerknot]

Drae with the Clutch! Single clutch though because we gotta save weight.

[@phille8176]

Drae my man

[@paritoshd]

That tank is what the rook piece represents on a chessboard. After all these years, now we know.

[@rougeelite1446]

Drae Their Tankettes lol

[@pheogamesytttv2067]

These big tanks remind me of the tanks in starwars

[@valalkuino3123]

That thumbnail, rip balance 🤣

[@aeDoesThings]

An interesting piece of engineering.